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#176 - Sobriety and Personal Growth · The Chris and Mike Show

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Don't get nervous, ladies and gentlemen, but we're.
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Lucky hello boys and girls. Welcome to YouTube and
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Twitchers. It's all about the Rock'n'roll.
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Damn right. As we see it, anyway.
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Chris got to hear a brand new song and you didn't.
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A rock'n'roll conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Oh yeah. Translates.
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You saw this online. Congratulations.
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Brother. That's awesome.
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That's the 21 year chip. You should be very proud.
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That's amazing. You know what though, I had some
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douche comment on that post saying that's not an A a
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sanctified chip, it's bullshit and there's not helping a A
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raise money. OK, explain to me why he would
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make that comment. Because obviously he is an
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asshole and he's probably not sober or has not been able to
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achieve a 21 year or 21 year of sobriety, which makes, you know,
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that kind of comment tells me that he's an alcoholic, which
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is, you know, it is what it is. I thought somebody.
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Told me that there was something that would lead him to believe
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that that was not an official. It's not an official a chip.
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It's not an official A chip. The official The official A A
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chips are these. Oh, see, I don't know anything
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about this. So you're you're teaching me
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something. Yeah, you've showed.
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Those are those so many times and I just wasn't paying
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attention. Right.
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So that's the first year of chips and each one of those is
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the official chip. It's the really lightweight kind
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of aluminum, if you will, almost like a like a like a hard
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plastic. I don't know any plastic, but so
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when when I first started going to a a the first, the second
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meeting I went to was a chip meeting, which I didn't realize
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at the time. The first one I went to wasn't
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everybody was was 60-70 years old.
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It didn't fit for me. So I found this other one in
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Saint Pete, the Holy Spirit Catholic Church.
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It was called a chip meeting every Tuesday at noon.
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So that the second one I went to, demographics were
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wide-ranging and when they came around the table, they asked how
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long you been sober. And, and I didn't say anything
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when I first went in there because I didn't, you know, just
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step back and watch. And I was like, why?
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I haven't had a drink since, you know, yesterday at like, I don't
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know, or the day before it was, it was a yeah.
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So that night, that Monday night, I dumped everything out.
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So I'm like, I haven't had a drink since 5:00 Monday.
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So they still gave me a 24 hour ship even though I hadn't hit 24
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hours yet. And then I learned that you get
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chips and that was my target for the first year.
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But the catch is when you go to a a meeting, it's self
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sponsored. So they send an offering basket
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around like you're going to church and you put in what you
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have, which I didn't know the first time I went there.
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So I felt like a dumb ass because I had nothing.
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I had no cash to put in there. So then every take credit,
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right? So then every, every, for the
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first probably 3 months, I went once a week.
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So every week I would, I would bring 5 bucks with me and stick
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it in the, in the offering thing just out of respect for that.
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So a, a is, is, it's a nonprofit.
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So everything is generated from people like me, you know,
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Alcoholics that are in the system and, and go to the
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meetings and things like that, donations, all that kind of
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jazz. So he has a point, but at the
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same time don't care. I I to me now that I've once I
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hit once I hit like 15 years, I only really ever go to a a if
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I'm just in one of those moments in life where I just need to go.
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So when, when I get close to my annual anniversary, I go online,
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I Google chips and this one was cool, I thought, because it's a
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grim Reaper now and, and people, Oh, it's a grim Reaper.
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What's a grim Reaper? Because we're all terminally
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ill, man. We're all chasing the grave and
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the coolest. Thing about you, you're not
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getting out of this alive. Right, exactly.
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So spoiler alert, right. But what I thought was cool
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about this is it is it's, it's truly, I mean, the biggest thing
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about about Alcoholics, we always have that little mantra
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one day at a time. And this is one day at a time.
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You live one day at a time. I think that's something that
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every recovering addict shares with you and a, a, you know, if
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that's your mantra, you know, I've always said whatever works
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for you, right? Right.
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Whatever makes you be a better person every day.
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So. Yeah, why would you begrudge
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somebody, even if my point exactly, you never went to a A
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and that was your way of showing your family and the people you
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love that I'm still committed to you and not my addiction.
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Who cares how that you do that, right?
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Right from not being reactionary anymore I just.
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I just deleted his comment and blocked him because I didn't
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want it on my thread because the my whole thread is littered with
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support and congratulations and thank you for sharing your
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stories. You know, because my story has
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touched people's lives. Like you touched your life and I
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didn't know it touched your life, right?
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Absolutely. I had a couple comments from the
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birthday post that were legit like you inspired me to stop and
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I've got X amount of days because of you're so
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transparent. So to me, somebody who did that
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is either, and we talked about this before, there's there's
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this type of people that have to go to church every Sunday.
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They have to, they have those tunnel vision on.
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They have to be told how to pray, how to tithe, You know,
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when do you meet, when not, or even in.
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Its most simplest form. I'm sorry to interrupt you, but
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no, no, in its most simplest form.
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Maybe that's what makes them be the person that you and I try to
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be every day, right, Right. I think your goal is the same as
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mine. We may go about it differently,
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but we have the same goal at the end of the day, to be a better
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person than we were yesterday. Right?
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Correct. To try to do the right thing in
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as many situations as possible. Yeah.
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We're a human being. We don't succeed all the time.
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But I think that's both of our ultimate goal.
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Let's try and do the right thing.
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And I just had this conversation recently, losing your temper and
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yelling and screaming, and that never solved anything that I
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ever remember. That's just my personal
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experience, right? No, I agree.
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I. Agree, so I've tried to get real
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good about being the one that remains calm and now I'm almost
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getting a kick out of watching the other person lose their
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shit. See, I I'll do that.
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Like there's this lady in her neighborhood that she hates me.
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I don't know why she hates me. I, I know why she hates me
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because she had referenced a real estate transaction and the
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listing was on the road and it's on a busy road.
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And I'm talking a very busy Vane Rd.
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And I made the comment that anybody who has a house on, on a
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road like that or Baxter Rd. you automatically have a 10% value
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drop. Oh, she didn't like that.
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She didn't like that at all. Because.
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She's would that have applied to the house that we bought?
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Yes, which I told you when we bought it.
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Yeah, which I told you when we bought it.
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That's. That is the first thing that
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popped in my mind. I remember that conversation
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right. Like I have one listed right now
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in the backyard. Part of the backyard is in the
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behind his backyard is a little sub power generation.
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He didn't have a problem with it when he bought the house.
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And then so we were talking about feedback and stuff.
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He's like, I remember you telling me that when I bought
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it. Yeah, not everybody's going to
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like a power station behind their backyard.
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Now it's. Not what?
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I don't even remember ever being bothered by that traffic.
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Because once you. You know they had double pane
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windows or whatever and you turn the TV on and you don't hear
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anything. Right.
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But some people because they're not told upfront, they don't
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believe the truth yet. I've actually in the house that
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Edward's house, I was listing for sale and they were all
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pissed off because the price point, I'm like, look, we had an
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appraised before we hit the market.
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Then we had an appraised when it was under contract.
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And both times the appraisers made comments that in the
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appraisal, due to the proximity to the road, the value
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percentage drop is this, which is always 10% because you have
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noise, you have the ability of a vehicle to go through your front
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yard and into your living room, which just happens all the time.
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Sure. And then you have the traffic
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noise and, you know, potential, all the kind of chaos that comes
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along with traffic. So she's she hates me because I
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was honest with that. So she posted something on the
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neighborhood page you have. To be though, I know.
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I know, I know. So she posted something on
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neighborhood, a page about a fellow realtor, how it's, you
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know, top top top group in the country.
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Well, when you look at the fine print, their brokerage, because
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then I looked it up, I'm like, that's fantastic.
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So I looked it up and then I realized their brokerage has all
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these little companies sites throughout the country and each
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one they list their top 20 offices in that state.
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So San Diego ones were different than the Arizona ones.
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And this particular one for quarter four, mind you, her post
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made it sound like it was the entire year.
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And how do you should go with her because she understands
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unique values of our properties and and yeah, OK, because
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really, really nice realtor because I've done deals with
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her. It's like super cool lady.
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She's a part when people. Take those cherry pick points
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and paint them in a broad picture, right?
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Right, right, because she shared, she shared, right, she
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shared this person's post and then she added her own little
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thing. But the fine print quarter four
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and it's the medium group so was in, in gross Commission income.
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So GCI is different than what you actually do as far as
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production is concerned. So it was a skewed, it's a
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skewed thing, but it so I'm the first one to comment on it.
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I'm like this person, meaning the realtor, she's a good human.
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We've, we've done a few deals together, right?
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So when this, when this lady originally was pissed off at me
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for the comment on value, I sent her a note card in the mail with
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the $5 gift card to talk to Starbucks.
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I said, why don't we go have some coffee?
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And, and I can explain why, why, why this, why this, why this is,
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I mean, just, you know, she's a very smart woman.
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She has a very, she has a, what is she's like, I don't want to
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say what she does for a living, but it's one of those, it's one
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of those occupations that you have to be wicked smart to do.
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Like you can't just be Joe Blow. But it just blows my mind that
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somebody's that stubborn that if she would ask other Realtors,
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they would tell her the same thing.
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But she has to like passively, aggressively slam me because and
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any other realtor in the neighborhood, because there's
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about 5 or 6 of us. I'm the most active one.
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I have the most houses that have been sold in this neighborhood
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in five years. I have, you know, I'm more
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active in this community than anybody else.
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But she has to slam me because I told her her house wasn't worth
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100% value. It's only worth 90%.
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Sorry, that's let. Me know at the end of the day
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what you end up getting for that house, right?
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Right when she ever goes to sell because she's been there forever
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and ever. But I just thought it was funny.
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Well, here's the flip side of that conversation, the flip side
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of that for somebody like her and that mindset, if you were
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the other kind of realtor when you went to show Carrie and I
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that house, you would have never taken us in the backyard, right?
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Or you would have made sure you did it at a time when there was
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no traffic. Like, hey, I can only meet you
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at like 7:30 at night or 8:00 at night, right?
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Right. Nice light traffic we got here.
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Well, 5:00 in the afternoon Stapley is like 50 mile an hour
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traffic, just non-stop. Right, so the road that I'm
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referring to is similar to a Stapley Rd., just further in the
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South. But here's what Chris did when
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he showed us the house. He took us there in the
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afternoon and said, this is as bad as it's going to get.
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Are you guys OK with this? Right, Right.
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Well, yeah, We were young. We didn't care.
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And yeah, once you had a radio on or you were inside and shut
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the door, you didn't hear it. So right.
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And those were I showed a house that you made right.
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I showed a house this morning. It's the same thing.
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It backed it his corner. It didn't back the busy Rd. but
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it was it's 2 1/2 acres from the busy Rd.
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So we purposely went outside, didn't talk, listened, went in
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the house, shut all the doors, listened.
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That house isn't going to have the 10% Dame because it's 2 1/2
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acres away from the the the intersection of the of those two
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roads connecting. It's not really an intersection
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the the T but you can still hear the ambient noise.
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But once the doors were shut, you didn't really hear anything.
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Sure, but she's the worst. Have to say, can you live with
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this while you're outside? Because inside you're not going
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to hear it. Right.
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And and it's and she understands that because she's driven up and
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down that road 1000 times the last few weeks because this is
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the area she wants to live. So she understands the traffic
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on that road, which is cool. It's just stupid.
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It's the the petty things that people do to try to get a rise
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out of you. So instead, like people will
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post something on Facebook every now and then.
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Oh, I'm looking for a realtor in Tempe.
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Right, which is just like saying, you know, I have $1000 I
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want to give away free, you know, to the last, last comment
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wins because then you just get littered man.
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And so I, I find this emoji, I learned this from my buddy
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Dallon Dallon Martin. I I find an emoji where the
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guy's eating popcorn and I just put that in there just, you
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know, watching, just watching. Because if you really are going
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to, if you're really going to find somebody to handle the one
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of the most financially important purchases of your life
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and, or protecting that asset by selling it, you're going to go
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on Facebook and say I need a realtor in Tempe.
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Like, really? Yeah, that's how you do that.
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It's nothing that seems super logical because you should get
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one, just, you know, luck of the draw.
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There's only what, maybe 1000 Realtors in Tempe?
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There's, well there's 30,000 Realtors in Arizona, but
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according to the nationalization of Realtors in 2025, the entire
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nation, 77.1% of all active real estate licenses licensees sold
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nothing. Say that number again, 70.
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77.1%. Of all licensees. $1.2 million,
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yeah. And in 2025 did not sell a
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single house in 2025 and I think there's like a million two, a
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million, two Realtors. Well, think about it though, the
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average is 4 transactions a year because 90% of the Realtors out
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there, it's a side hustle. It's like, hey, you work where
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you work. You want to make some extra
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money on the weekends so you can get your real estate license.
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So anytime somebody in your in your small town wants to put a
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house for sale, they're going to call you up.
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Hey Mike, I got to sell my house.
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I should be familiar because there's people, yeah, there's
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people that do that around here. There you go.
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So. Or they do that until they
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become can become a full time realtor because we don't have
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the housing market that you do. Yeah, right.
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Like, like I did, I, my first two years in real estate, I kept
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my day job and they got to the point where I was just, I was
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just too busy. So I, I couldn't continue
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keeping the day job. But, but the most, the bulk of
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all Realtors of those there was 70, we'll call it 77%.
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So of the remaining 23%, most of those sold 4 houses.
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And then you have do you have? I'm going to say.
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Cheaper minority. I wasn't well, I was in 3%, I
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was in the top 3%. I got an e-mail.
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I don't broadcast that shit because it's no in Arizona.
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I've topped 3% in Arizona, which, you know, in Maricopa
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Pinal County. Yeah, but that makes sense now
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that you break those numbers down.
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There's very few people that do it for a living at the level
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that you're doing it. Right, but there's very few full
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time Realtors, like even in my brokerage that we have a handful
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of people that have secondary, secondary things.
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Oh, Nikki just walked in the door butt ass naked.
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Did you go to school like that? I'll shake that ass.
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No wonder those kids are there on time every day.
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Every. Day, they're like, we're ready,
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at least the boys and the girls who are going to be lesbians.
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Yeah, he's right. Oh yeah, so she is dressed.
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I have. Clothes.
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I figured you were dressed. He said he figured you were
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dressed. I know him.
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That's funny. Yeah, She he knows me.
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That's two. Facts that completely blew my
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mind today. The other one is going to blow
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your mind. OK, did you know Blow?
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Blow my mind with your fact. Did you know that of all gun
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violence or gun deaths, excuse me, OK, Not violence, OK, Of all
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gun deaths, over 60% of them are suicides.
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I was going to say that. Yeah, I was going to say
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self-inflicted. That's crazy.
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I did not know that. I was listening to a podcast
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with a guy who was obviously very into guns and he brought
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that fact up. I was like, I did not know that.
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Yeah, well, it's kind of like that, that bumper stickers, guns
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don't kill people, people kill people.
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Which is a come. Near me, right?
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You know, come near me. I'm gonna does the bumper
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sticker. Guns don't kill people.
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People kill people. Come near me.
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I'm going to kill you. Here's the analogy I always use.
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I have two guns that do not belong to me.
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They're just being stored for, you know, safety purposes
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because zombie, it would be a real bad idea to come in here a
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couple baseball bats with your name on it.
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But right. So anyway, those guns have laid
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in their spot for well over a year now and they haven't shot
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anybody. They haven't even moved.
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They're quite dusty. Yeah.
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So yeah. Now she's topless.
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Hey, we're just going for ratings here, ladies and.
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Gentlemen, she's just going for. Yeah, she turned the corner, but
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she has to, you know, when she gets home from work, she, she
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purges the work clothes like everybody do, you know,
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everybody does the benefit of not having kids.
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You just, you know, walk in the door and you can strip naked
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underway to the shower, you know?
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I do. There's nothing wrong with that,
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you know. That's why I hate winter time,
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because I have to wear lots of clothes, right?
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It's not good at all. No, and I don't.
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Yeah, the winter time here is is the reason I'm wearing a long
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sleeve shirt because it's cold on my house because my all my
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all the flooring is tile. But I don't know what happened
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to winter man. Usually usually February is
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colder than January. Yes, and this is going to piss
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you off 8070770665 Nipoli that day, which is Friday
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707670651662 So next Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday.
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It's supposed to rain right now, 75 to 40% all three days, which
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it probably won't by then, but it's February, man It's insane.
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Well, it is here too, because it's February and we're going to
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be today it was 53444551565957585655.
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That's super warm for. February, I have.
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I have you at Tuesday at 57°, not 58.
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I care about your weather, Mike. It's on my phone.
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How do we have two different? Hold on, let me pull this back.
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You got us. I.
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Got Pontiac, IL. So do I.
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You got to bring it up to your camera more so it can be.
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Oh my fuck my camera is 1,000,000 miles away I forgot.
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Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, that's weird.
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That's really weird. And Punxsutawney, it's next.
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Tuesday, say that again. What temperature?
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Do you have 57? Mine says 58.
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That's sound of a. That's weird, man.
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You Lion Scranton. You know where gender Mifflins
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at? They're cold as hell, man.
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It's, it's like 40° and less. It's it's it's a crazy thing.
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It's crazy babies. They don't tell me no lies.
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Did you watch the Super Bowl? I did.
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I made a lot of money on the Super Bowl, my friend.
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I made well because because I followed your lead with one of
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the one of the basketball things and I went to.
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Zero. I apologize.
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I lost. No, you're fine.
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You're fine. I went to 0 balance but I had so
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much money riding on the Super Bowl.
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All the different bets. I ended up making $60.00 in the
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Super Bowl. The the the fun one was.
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You scored the defensive I. Did That was a $35 score right
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there. Man I can't remember why it just
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it didn't hit me when it happened.
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It must have been like 20 minutes later that thought
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popped in my head. I'm like that son of a bitch
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just made he made money on that one.
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Good for him. Yep.
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Exactly. I ended up for that day because
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I put a big bet on Michigan too. I made a little over 500 bucks.
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Wow. Michigan basketball and then I
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had five separate -4 1/2 bets on the Seahawks.
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I just had so much confidence in that team.
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And congratulations to the Seattle Seahawks.
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That was one well oiled machine. It was just.
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It was. Boring the 1st 3/4.
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It was boring the first 3. Quarters, it was boring unless
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you're the person that executed that and not just a fan, but I
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mean the people that were there that executed the game, the
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coaches, the I mean that was a masterful performance and how to
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shut down a football team. And, and this is fun, the
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Patriots, now the New England Patriots, have lost more Super
21:45
Bowls than any other team in NFL history.
21:47
Just means you've been there more.
21:49
True. This is true.
21:51
I, you know, I think the, I think the Bills may have been
21:55
there had that record, and now it's been supplanted by the
21:58
Patriots. What wasn't it?
22:00
Michael Jordan has said it doesn't matter how many times
22:02
you fail, it only matters the one time you succeed or
22:05
something like that. Yep, so our our hope for Vrabel
22:08
being the first player coach in the same organization, It's
22:12
going to work and Drake may look like a young kid playing
22:16
football. Didn't he?
22:18
He did he he. Wasn't the same thing, yeah.
22:20
So he's his level of maturity is not the same level of maturity
22:24
that Brock Purdy had when he was in the Super Bowl. 100% that's a
22:27
great comparison. Thank you.
22:29
Even though the Niners didn't win, Brock Purdy was still Brock
22:31
Purdy has that Eli thing. He has that, you know, all
22:34
shocks. That was one play.
22:35
Move along, you know, Sure. And you know, but you learn from
22:41
it. But it's a question of and I'm
22:42
sure the Patriots will get back to her because they're just too
22:44
good of an organization not to. I don't know if I if I were Sam
22:48
Darnold, just a squirrel moment. I just thought of this.
22:52
If I were Sam Darnold, I couldn't not thank the Minnesota
22:57
Vikings for letting me go. First and foremost, that would
23:00
have been the my the first words out of my mouth.
23:03
Well, here's the thing with Sam Darnold, though.
23:06
It's It takes a team to win a Super Bowl.
23:08
Everybody's like Sam Darnold, Sam Darnold, Sam Darnold is
23:10
like. But Sam Darnold was shut down
23:12
for the first. Three, I'm just saying because
23:13
he won 14 games with Minnesota, they came up on him.
23:17
Well, he got hurt though, didn't he?
23:20
I don't think did he? I thought he got hurt.
23:23
I thought he got hurt. That's why they, that's why
23:25
they, they moved on from him, quote UN quote.
23:27
I thought he got hurt. You might be right.
23:29
I thought they just ditched him. Injury.
23:33
Because they wanted that JJ McCarthy from Michigan, and then
23:37
he got hurt in a second game, our first game.
23:40
Oh, there's your first thing that pops up.
23:42
Why did the Vikings give up on Sam Darnold?
23:45
Details, of course. Minnesota's brutal thing.
23:49
Sam Darnold, that was. That was this year's oblique
23:52
injury. Where's the Minnesota?
23:59
I don't want to watch the video man.
24:01
I don't remember him being hurt, but that doesn't mean anything
24:03
because sometimes my memory is suspect.
24:08
Yeah, let's see. OK, so here's the article.
24:17
Try. OK, What?
24:17
Where was it, man? The Vikings?
24:19
Yeah. OK.
24:19
The why Vikings chose JJ over Sam Darnold to prove this,
24:22
because you're right. OK, It was.
24:23
It was just. Yeah, they just gave up a
24:25
carton. That's weird.
24:27
Otherwise, my joke doesn't make sense.
24:28
But if I were him standing there now, my joke makes sense again.
24:32
I would totally say thank you to the Minnesota Black for letting
24:34
me go for a real team because I agree with your statement a
24:40
million percent. You don't do it without the
24:42
other 10 guys on the field. But he deserved the chance to
24:46
stay with the Vikings after winning them 14 games.
24:49
I mean, yeah, you don't go to the Super Bowl every year.
24:52
What is their 32 teams? I mean, you have to have a
24:57
perfect season like Seattle just did.
24:59
They just rolled over people. Yeah, did that guy just.
25:04
Become the youngest, winningest head coach?
25:06
Did I hear that too? Yes, youngest winningest head
25:09
coach and I didn't realize the Seahawks owner was a female,
25:11
which is pretty cool. I did not know that either.
25:13
Yeah, the bears as well. So the Bears, the Seahawks, oh,
25:20
the Lions, I think are the only three female lead NFL team
25:24
franchises. Of course.
25:27
And two out of three are above average organizations.
25:33
The bears are getting there, if they.
25:34
Yeah. Their Bear, their Bears were
25:35
there. They just, you know, the Bears
25:38
have a future with Cam Man. They they definitely have a
25:40
future. They have to have a future and
25:42
and the things that the Detroit did in the offseason, coaches
25:45
and stuff, I think they're going to turn their shit around
25:47
because like you said, Ben Johnson, I don't know, Ben
25:49
Johnson was on Detroit. Oh yeah, he was their offensive
25:52
coordinator. Right, which is?
25:53
Now they have a losing record since he left.
25:56
Right, but they picked up, I think they picked up Cliff
25:57
Kingsbury to be their OC. Yes, so and he's a good, he's a
26:01
good OC. Yeah, and they need that.
26:04
For sure. Yeah.
26:05
Yeah. Because he turned, he turned
26:06
Washington around. And but last year, Dane Daniels
26:08
was hurt so much that there was nothing he could do.
26:10
They had a lot of injuries on Washington this year.
26:13
Yeah, which is surprising. The Washington let him go
26:15
because it wasn't really his fault.
26:16
But every team has injuries. And that's the that's the thing.
26:18
You can't. No team is ever healthy.
26:20
No team. It's just, it's, it's, it
26:23
depends on the component that that personnel that's injured,
26:28
you know. Yeah, if you lose your
26:31
quarterback, you're pretty much screwed.
26:34
Well, yeah, for that and that and anybody any offensive or
26:37
defensive lineman because you can, you can shuffle with
26:39
receivers and running backs and and defensive backs and stuff.
26:42
But if you lose offensive defensive lineman that are that
26:44
are powerhouses for that team, you're definitely not going to
26:48
going to recoup from that. No, Ask Drake May.
26:53
Yeah. And I don't know if any of those
26:55
guys were replacements, but man, that Seattle, if you can't stop
27:00
a four man rush, you're going to lose every time.
27:04
We only rush four guys probably 70% of the time.
27:08
Might have been more than. That that's what was surprising
27:11
about that. I didn't expect it to be a
27:14
shutout into the end of the third quarter.
27:17
I just, I didn't expect that like it was mine.
27:19
But it was the 12th at the beginning of the 4th, I won one
27:22
of the squares in in in the Rotary Club pool, which is cool.
27:26
Nice. But yeah, the fourth quarter was
27:29
awesome. It was just, I mean, you know,
27:32
it was just regardless if you like, whichever team you liked,
27:35
it was awesome because it was finally action-packed and shit
27:38
was happening. Offense was happening, yeah.
27:40
You know, and the Patriots did get put up 14 points and they
27:44
were still reachable until the turnover.
27:47
The the fumble, Was it a fumble, A scooping score?
27:50
Yeah, I think it was a scooping score.
27:51
Yeah. And then I got I won two the,
27:53
the, the score in the last two minutes of the first half.
27:56
I won that bet, too, which was cool.
27:58
Jake. Won.
28:00
I'm sorry. Go ahead.
28:01
Oh, no. What?
28:02
Jake. No Jake.
28:02
Jake picked the MVP. Oh.
28:05
Shit, yeah, yeah, he got I would like.
28:08
To know what the odds on that were.
28:10
He, I don't know, he probably put $5 down and got 35 bucks or
28:13
something. I put I put $3 on the giant, I
28:15
bet. He got moisture.
28:16
I bet he got like 50 or 60. No, he told me.
28:19
He told me it was like 30, thirty, 3030 bucks. 30 odds were
28:22
like plus 375 + 475 something. Yeah, some of them something.
28:29
That's really cool that it out of all the.
28:30
Players. He picked a great guy.
28:31
I was like, right on man. I fell asleep.
28:34
Who was the MVP? The running back the Seattle
28:38
Seattle. Kenneth Walker.
28:40
Yeah, yeah. Man, if I'd have been thinking
28:43
more, I probably would have picked that guy myself because
28:45
I've been following his career since he was at Michigan State.
28:48
Oh, right on. See I was the one with one of
28:53
them. What was it?
28:55
The running he had to get over 33 yards, one of the one of the
28:59
quarterbacks passing and one the other one I didn't.
29:01
He was short and then obviously the defensive score.
29:05
That was awesome. I did the Patriots with the
29:07
points, so I didn't win the game in itself.
29:09
I didn't do that right. Yeah, well, you made your own
29:13
decision. Yeah, right.
29:14
Right. I don't, I don't like to.
29:17
I mean, I give people bets, but for some reason that I mean,
29:21
I'll give them to you, but the average person, I'm like, you
29:24
got to make your own decision because it makes me too nervous,
29:27
right? Yeah, I don't, but it's I don't
29:29
care. To me, it's like you with the
29:30
basketball. You can't.
29:31
I don't. I OK, big deal.
29:33
We should. Want I lost way more on that
29:36
game than you did? That'll make you feel better.
29:38
I always lose more than you did that I always will lose more
29:41
than you do. That should make you feel
29:43
better. Yeah, well, it doesn't.
29:45
But I just, you know, I'm, I'm like my next, my final.
29:49
Way. I'm not saying in a devious way.
29:51
Right my own my outstanding bets to the Giants Super Bowl and
29:54
then Charles Barkley picked Max Strom to win the Masters.
29:59
So if that happens, that's like $600.00 payday for 5 bucks
30:03
because Sparkly said it. I'm like, OK, why not, you know,
30:12
did you watch the halftime show? Because I didn't.
30:14
We just we Fast forward that. I watched it.
30:17
I didn't watch it. I didn't watch either.
30:21
I, as you know, love all kinds of music.
30:24
Absolutely. And I can almost always relate
30:28
to whatever you are doing musically, as long as it's good.
30:31
Right. Yeah, yeah.
30:33
So I told you before we started, I thought long and hard about
30:37
this because the one, the single biggest reason I personally got
30:42
into music is because I felt alienated a lot as a kid, right?
30:47
For whatever reason, I'm sick, asthma, fucking allergic to milk
30:52
and got made fun of for stupid shit that I had no control over
30:55
and or just people made a big deal about it.
30:58
Maybe they weren't even making fun of me.
30:59
I'm like, just why you got to make a big deal about it?
31:01
So music to me was my escape. And it was something I could do
31:05
that nobody could ever take away from me.
31:07
And nobody could ever tell me I couldn't do it.
31:09
Right. Right.
31:10
It's right. The one thing that I always have
31:12
for me. Yeah.
31:14
So the non competition part of music was so appealing to me.
31:21
Right. You and I, we locked heads
31:24
instantly over just that one subject, and then we found out
31:28
that we agreed on many, many other subjects and we grew as
31:33
people on the things that we disagree, just like we do on
31:35
this podcast. You and I have said 100 times to
31:37
each other privately. I have learned so much from you
31:40
and you've learned so much from me without even talking about
31:43
it. You don't need to say it.
31:46
The camaraderie of that partnership in a band and in a
31:52
songwriter, especially in a songwriter situation, is so
31:58
intimate, right? The fact that they tried to
32:03
divide us over music is so disappointing.
32:07
Yeah. So that fact alone I would like
32:10
to leave people with. The second thing I would like to
32:13
leave people with is if you are looking to Kid Rock for your
32:17
values, you need to re examine your values.
32:21
Yeah. And I couldn't mean that anymore
32:24
because you did not follow his career from a young man to where
32:28
he stands today. And people can change.
32:31
Yeah. Oh yeah, that's fine.
32:33
But you don't get to be a hypocrite when you do it.
32:36
No Agreed. Agreed.
32:39
And for for what? Right and and at the end of the
32:41
day, Kid Rock's a musician. Period.
32:43
The end of the day, he's an entertainer.
32:44
They're. Welcome people to go buy that
32:47
album, his most famous album, whatever the fuck it's called.
32:50
Devil without a cause. Devil without a cause and open
32:53
it up. And the first thing that every
32:54
mom and pop America is going to see a big middle finger staring
32:57
right at him. So that's the man that you chose
33:01
to watch over a guy who preached nothing but love.
33:05
I couldn't understand a word he said.
33:07
But I will also say I have some very, very near and dear to my
33:13
heart, Hispanic friends, Mexican friends, who I love.
33:19
Yeah. They're loyal people.
33:21
They I mean. Oh, they and that, that that
33:26
culture loved it. They thought, I mean, it had 130
33:28
a hundred, 135 million views, which is the most viewed
33:31
halftime show ever. But part of the reason because
33:34
of that, like you said, they pitted it.
33:37
They they, I think the NFL picked them because they knew it
33:40
was going to be automatic controversy.
33:42
Here's why they picked it. OK.
33:45
This is the other thing that people don't understand about
33:47
the halftime show. It's not what you want to see.
33:50
They don't give a shit about what you want to see.
33:52
He is the most popular artist walking this planet today,
33:58
whether you like it or not. Not Chris Dunham, whether ladies
34:01
and gentlemen who are listening to this, who take the time, if
34:04
you don't know, he is the most downloaded and listen to artist
34:08
on earth and it's not even close.
34:11
It's like the next closest artist is Taylor Swift and he
34:15
out downloads her like 7:00 or 12:50.
34:18
Yeah. He gets like 89,000,000 streams
34:23
a day. Yeah, which is?
34:25
Over a billion a month and now it just went up like 400%.
34:29
Yeah, yeah, Because that's the other thing.
34:31
If you don't realize that anybody who plays the halftime
34:33
show, they put the money forward, they're not paid to do
34:36
that. So all your halftime
34:38
entertainment is paid for by the artists themselves because the
34:40
next day they see results on all the download streams because all
34:45
their music gets downloaded or purchased wherever you can
34:49
purchase it from, whether it's streaming or not.
34:50
But that's that's the caveat to that.
34:53
But the hate that was sent towards him and the bravery that
34:57
he showed to go out there and do what he loves was just to me.
35:03
It was mesmerizing. Yeah.
35:05
It was a great. And if you don't listen to Latin
35:08
music, First off, you're missing.
35:10
You're missing out because it makes even a person who doesn't
35:13
understand music, it makes you want to move.
35:16
Yeah. It's a yeah.
35:18
Think of like Gloria Estefan. That's all he is you're making.
35:22
And another thing I had to educate people on and it made me
35:26
just, it just, it's almost like we're the last gasp, gasps of a
35:32
dying nation, right? These people don't understand
35:34
that Puerto Rico is actually part of the United States,
35:37
right? Right.
35:38
Yeah. And it's actually a horrible
35:41
part of the United States because we annexed them as a
35:44
territory and then just forgot about them.
35:49
They have no representation. They don't get to vote.
35:52
They're United States citizens, though.
35:54
Yeah. So, you know it, it made me sad
35:58
that I had to educate people that Puerto Rico was actually
36:00
part of the United States when they said why do we have to have
36:02
a fucking foreigner at a fucking halftime show?
36:07
Well, after I get done scratching my head, yeah.
36:13
Yeah, yeah. So I guess we failed civics.
36:16
We just we fast forwarded it. It's one of those things that
36:18
that when they over hype something like that, it's just,
36:23
I had to know why. Yeah, yeah, I just see I'm the
36:26
other way. We we, we were messing around
36:28
anyway because you know, we can DVR things and married couples
36:31
can have mess around fun. Well, if I had the choice
36:33
between that and watch them, yeah, Bunny halftime show, I
36:36
guess which one I'm picking. Yeah, Yeah, we had.
36:38
I didn't have that option. So we, the benefit of is then we
36:42
could, we could Fast forward the commercials and we realized we
36:45
don't want to Fast forward the commercials.
36:46
So then by the time we got to the halftime, we just Fast
36:49
forward it to get to the start of the third quarter.
36:51
Because again, you know, to me, it's, it's, it's overproduced,
36:57
it's lip syncing. And I didn't watch it.
36:59
So I and I people, what do you think?
37:01
I don't know, I didn't watch it. I just didn't watch either.
37:03
I saw a clip of, of Kid Rock. I saw a clip of Bad Bunny on on
37:07
the Instagram and that was the extent of it.
37:10
I didn't. I didn't watch any of Kid Rock's
37:12
just for the simple fact. Like I said, it's like you don't
37:15
get to be a hypocrite. I know where you came from.
37:17
I know what you said. I know what your lyrics were.
37:19
I knew every one of them. Yeah.
37:23
Well, yeah, it's kind. Of like it can change.
37:24
Yeah, he has. He has that, but he has to.
37:27
Be a hypocrite. Right, he has that famous lame.
37:29
I'm straight outta Compton. I'm straight off the trailer.
37:32
Dude lived in a very nice residential estate, probably
37:37
four or five acres with a you know, a 3000 square foot house
37:41
was backed in was kind of mansion esque, right?
37:44
With a guest house and a pool and a tennis court.
37:47
You could Google. Let's see if we can find it.
37:48
Google Kid Rock's home home Kid Rock's home while growing up.
37:54
It's because it's crazy. When I showed it to Nikki years
37:57
ago, she's like, what? But you know where I'm coming
37:59
from. He he led us to believe he was 1
38:03
character and now he's trying to lead us to believe he's this
38:06
other character. You don't get to be another
38:08
character midstream. Yeah.
38:10
What do I always tell you, The people that I grew up with that
38:13
were rebellious back in the day, The thing that breaks my heart
38:16
the most is when I find out that they've just basically succumbed
38:19
to the system, right? Yeah, Yep.
38:22
Like what? What happened to your rebel
38:24
spirit? All right, so I can't, I can't
38:27
get the one picture just to pop up so, but here's there it is.
38:34
Oh come on, I shouldn't have clicked the button really.
38:40
You clicked the button. It's so weird.
38:44
So it's that it's that house that's the big, it's the big
38:47
house. Why are you black?
38:49
Is your your, your Cam? Oh, there you are.
38:51
I'm going to go. You're black.
38:53
So that's that's his house. That's his house he grew up in.
38:56
That's not Compton. No, it's not Compton.
39:00
And no, he's like, you're straight out of Compton.
39:02
I'm straight off the trailer. Oh, that's so.
39:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah. See right there.
39:06
Kid Rock's actual childhood home is not a trailer on sale for
39:10
$600,000. It's it's it's, it's that it's,
39:13
it's that it's. Not it's not a trailer.
39:17
No, no. It looks like a plantation
39:21
estate. Right, right.
39:24
It's, you know, there's the house, you got the little guest
39:26
house back there. I think that's the tennis court,
39:28
basketball court, whatever the pools over here.
39:31
So yeah, it's, it's not, it's I'm gonna.
39:36
But again, that's kind of like with with Aaron Lewis and stain.
39:38
Some of the stuff he writes, You think, Oh, you know, I'm a
39:42
country boy and shit. And you realize, well, no, he's
39:44
not. He lives in a in a posh.
39:45
He'd lived in a posh mansion in Beverly Hills.
39:48
He didn't live out, but that sells records, right?
39:51
But he's not standing up there trying to convince me
39:54
politically how to think or feel.
39:57
Oh, agreed. And I'm not I'm not comparing
39:59
that. I'm just saying that you some
40:01
people will think I thought he. Tripped on acid.
40:05
Right. Exactly.
40:07
For years. That's what I'm saying.
40:08
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Some people will take those
40:10
lyrics and think that that's actually it's like Bruce Spring.
40:14
Because they're so well written that you and they're so and even
40:17
more so, so obviously they have to mean something.
40:20
They have to be well written. But in the singer's case, they
40:24
have to be delivered in a way that people.
40:25
Believe it correct. That's and people.
40:29
Believed who? Yeah, they believed all.
40:32
All, all the lyrics that these guys sang.
40:34
Yeah, exactly. Which rightfully so, you know,
40:38
but they Bruce Springsteen didn't live any of those lives
40:41
that he writes about. No, Mellencamp did.
40:43
Mellencamp I think is could be a one of the true exceptions of
40:48
small town is small town is John Mellencamp.
40:50
He understands it. He.
40:51
He wrote it right, and he wrote about the dichotomy is right.
40:56
We're not the the struggle is with with the races and things.
41:00
And he he was, he was that guy that put a foot first in his
41:03
videos that was got backlash. And the divide between the
41:06
farmer and the city folk. Right, right.
41:09
So, But yeah, that's what I'm saying.
41:11
And that's why I think his music resonated with the world in the
41:14
80s. Because of that.
41:15
Sure. You know his because his music's
41:18
great. He's just, he's just an ass now,
41:21
which isn't. And he's way political and way
41:23
opinionated and it's what he's not fun to go see anymore.
41:27
You know? You don't.
41:27
It's like Eddie Vedder. Pearl Jam was great when 10 came
41:30
out, man, they were great. It's like, holy shit, they.
41:32
Lost their way after biology in my.
41:34
Opinion they did, and it got and it got too opinionated.
41:37
I agreed. He got too opinionated.
41:39
He got way too political. Just like, fuck up.
41:42
And play your music right. Just shut up.
41:45
And that's. What I wanted to say to everyone
41:48
who and everyone that I knew would accept my opinion.
41:52
I've told him this. Yep.
41:54
Whatever you wanted to watch, watch it.
41:56
But if you watched it because you thought you were doing the
42:00
right thing by not watching the other one, Yeah.
42:04
You know, I like to say this a lot.
42:06
Fuck you. Yep.
42:07
Literally. Yep.
42:08
Yep. That's just music is beautiful.
42:12
Just watch the one you wanted to watch because you wanted to
42:14
watch it. But please don't tell me you did
42:17
it because you thought you were doing the right thing by turning
42:20
your nose up at someone who is speaking a different language.
42:22
Please, what do you like? 6 No.
42:26
So here's a six year old doesn't talk like that or even believe
42:29
anything like that because they haven't been taught that yet.
42:32
Yep. So here's this and I'm going to
42:34
share this because this is this is someone who controlled the
42:38
world with his mere presence. This is old scene of war
42:44
protesters. And would you today refuse to be
42:47
drafted? Honey, I just I just seem to
42:51
keep my own personal views about that to myself because I'm I'm,
42:54
I'm just an entertainer and I I really not say do you.
42:56
Think other entertainers should also keep their views to
42:59
themselves? Agreed.
43:03
There you go, Ricky Gervais says it best.
43:05
Take your ward and fuck off. You have no, you're so removed
43:10
from from the day-to-day life and the day-to-day struggles of,
43:13
of of America. Just fuck off.
43:15
Yeah, just shut up. You're an entertainer.
43:17
You get paid to entertain. That's it.
43:20
And even more important than that, that's how I end every
43:24
political argument that someone wants to get into with me.
43:27
They're the haves you're the have, not you just haven't
43:30
figured it out yet because it's adorable the way you think that
43:33
you still that those people have any care about what happens to
43:39
you on a day-to-day basis. Yeah, because they don't.
43:41
They don't. They don't.
43:43
Politicians. Can't they have too many other
43:46
things that they have to do to keep the status that they've
43:49
attained? Right?
43:50
That's not easy. That's a full time job.
43:53
Yeah. Yep, Yep.
43:57
So the fact that they tried to divide us over music was super
44:01
disappointing to me. Agreed and and from what I heard
44:06
about the the the non halftime show it it, it flopped horribly.
44:11
It flopped. And now all these bands are
44:14
pulling out of his tour, which kudos to them, Creed was one of
44:17
them. But I will say this, I do think
44:20
the halftime show needs to go back to at least a rock'n'roll
44:24
or a pop rock like you've been enough years.
44:26
Now that's what I learned during this one is it wasn't ever that
44:29
it was always the most popular act at the time.
44:32
I I get that, but you can't tell me that that OK, there's, but
44:38
they're looking at, are they looking at the most popular act
44:40
or they look at the most popular act in that genre, because the
44:44
same genre has been this, the same genre has been done now
44:48
what, four or five years in a row?
44:49
Those are the that unfortunately for people that don't want to
44:53
hear this, that is the most popular music on earth.
44:58
And this is being I am not a fan.
45:01
Let me rephrase that. I like and appreciate their
45:04
music. I do not follow it, but if Chris
45:07
Dunham says, hey, you need to listen to this new Shakira song
45:10
because it kicks ass, I'm going to check it out because it kicks
45:14
ass according to you. My point in telling you this is
45:18
I have people that I know, respect and understand that part
45:23
of the music business well enough to tell me that is the
45:27
most popular music on Earth, whether you want to admit it or
45:31
not. That's why it's in all the dance
45:33
clubs. It's the most downloaded music
45:36
by far. The fact that Megadeth has the
45:42
number one album on Billboard Top 200 gives me hope.
45:46
Yeah, I'm not sure how long they'll be there.
45:50
And I and I doubt Megadeth will play the Super Bowl.
45:52
Just saying. No, and I I hope they wouldn't
45:55
for the same reason that I just said I'm disappointed in the
45:58
people who grew up with me, that were rebellious, that gave up on
46:00
that. Megadeth and Metallica are anti
46:03
establishment right? I don't want to see Metallica at
46:06
the fucking halftime show either.
46:08
No, yeah, I thought that would be good.
46:12
But it would be good though, if you had, if you had, you know.
46:15
If they both agreed to do it together, I'll I'll let him do
46:18
it. See, I think Ozzy would have
46:21
been a great halftime show. No question, but he probably
46:24
told the fuck off too, right? Well, and yeah, yeah.
46:29
They may have asked him, we don't know.
46:31
You know what was interesting that I saw something recently?
46:34
Prince because Prince did a halftime show, which.
46:36
Was the best. One my two favorite halftime
46:37
shows yeah my two favorite ones were Prince and U2U2 just
46:41
because the time it was it was during the that was a good one
46:43
at 11 couldn't agree with you more.
46:45
And visually, they had the screen behind them and they were
46:48
rolling all the names of everybody that lost your lives
46:50
during the terrorist attacks. You just can never overcome the
46:53
fact that Prince made it rain in the middle of purple rain.
46:57
Right. Like, how's that?
46:58
Possible he's Prince. He is Prince.
47:02
I did this. So Speaking of Prince, he
47:04
something in the Stranger Things season 5 Purple Rain popped up
47:08
on one of the episodes. So he's now one of only a
47:12
handful of artists that have charted in the 70s, eighties,
47:15
nineties, 2000s, two thousand 10's and two thousand 20s.
47:18
That is crazy. 6 decades, man. Dude to ME666X no problem.
47:26
The beast that is almost hard to comprehend.
47:30
Bright, That's yeah. Every time I every time we this
47:34
now, I'm going to my Instagram, going to pull up prints now
47:36
because every time I mention them, everybody listens and then
47:39
they start. I get to play the purple rain
47:41
reels and shit. It's nobody appreciated him as
47:45
much, I think when he's alive because it's just, oh, he's
47:48
coming out with something new. He's coming out with something
47:49
new. I did only only because I.
47:52
Got this. I wouldn't have, and I'm going
47:54
to be brutally honest, but I got a chance to see him live and he
47:58
did a version of Jimi Hendrix Red House in the middle of his
48:02
show that just I. I about fell.
48:06
Over, Dude, I was like, I mean, trust me, I enjoyed the show.
48:09
It was great, Yeah, but he's like, we're going to have a.
48:12
Little fun here. I just want to play my guitar
48:14
for a minute. Is that in my mind?
48:16
If I play my guitar, of course, fucking crowd goes crazy, Right?
48:20
Right. Right.
48:20
And he rips into Red House and I'm like, Oh my God, this guy
48:24
can tread. Yeah, He played like a 3 1/2
48:28
minute solo in the middle of Red House that just made you want to
48:30
cry. You know, similar to the
48:32
stealing the show at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
48:35
Hall of Fame. I said the.
48:39
Same thing when I witnessed it with.
48:41
My own. Eyes.
48:41
I was like, holy shit, Prince can shred.
48:44
Yeah. Yeah, and.
48:47
Play the Blues and play rock. And play pop.
48:50
And I mean, the guy was just, he understood music on a level that
48:55
very few people probably ever will.
48:57
Agreed. He must have been.
48:59
In tune with all those frequencies.
49:01
Just something because because it ooze through it.
49:04
It's, it's kind of we, we were somewhere.
49:06
Nick and I were somewhere and I heard he made it sound too easy.
49:11
Yeah. We heard a eagle.
49:13
Song oh I can't tell you why and that that part Eagle song where
49:16
I can't tell you why when they go like who the fuck is hitting
49:21
in in in the in the studio writing this song thinks we
49:25
should do right there Timothy Schmidt I just you just.
49:32
You just you just those. Things like I never, I've never
49:35
had, I've never had that in my head when we when we wrote
49:37
songs, I never thought, Oh, this would be really cool right here,
49:40
because I just was. I would just I follow the music,
49:43
I think more than people think I did when we were writing stuff
49:47
and and then the live would be where I would improv it because
49:49
then I would just get into that comfort zone.
49:51
And then that would, you know, would change the evolution of
49:54
the song. But you just said it your songs.
49:57
Like mine on guitar evolved into something different later.
50:02
We always had like a framework that we worked around.
50:05
Yeah, to get from beginning to end.
50:08
Yeah. But yeah, you would evolve.
50:10
The more you sang. Each time, yeah.
50:13
Especially live, yeah. Yeah, because.
50:17
Some of the things that artists do, man, it just.
50:19
Blows my mind, like he thought of that.
50:21
How do you think of that? How do you just sit around and
50:23
think, oh, I know it's going to go good here?
50:27
What the fuck, man? How's that possible that that
50:30
gets in your head? You know as well.
50:32
You know as well as I do. He might not have heard it.
50:36
The producer might have played it back and said, hey, try this
50:39
here. True, right?
50:40
True. That's why they're sitting on
50:42
the other side. Of the glass we should.
50:43
Have we should have we should you know what we should do?
50:45
We. Should have Lemoine back on and
50:47
and just have a conversation with him about when he was
50:49
producing artists and how much he would how much he would
50:53
inject his ideas and thoughts and how much of those ideas and
50:57
thoughts actually then were put in to play and stayed in the
51:02
final. Here's a.
51:03
Here's an even better question to.
51:04
Add to those questions. Yeah.
51:06
How do you know when to do that without disrupting the flow of
51:10
the artist's creativity? Right.
51:13
Yeah. Yeah.
51:14
Because there's times where you know, if we were recording and I
51:19
tried to talk to you about changing something.
51:24
Or trying something. It was going to ruin the whole
51:27
take, right? Yeah.
51:28
Yeah. Sometimes we just had to keep
51:30
playing it because you knew what you wanted to do.
51:33
We just weren't doing it. Yeah.
51:35
So there's a time when the artist knows what they're trying
51:37
to achieve. And then there's a time where
51:40
the artist is stuck right, where you're like, I want to fill the
51:45
space, but I don't know what to do.
51:46
Yeah. Yep. 100%. 100% So who's winning
51:54
the Super? Bowl next year.
51:57
My money's already on the Bears. They did bears.
52:00
What was the? What are the odds for the?
52:01
Bears. I don't remember.
52:06
I think we got like 5. Minutes left.
52:07
We might as well, you know. What's what's the dealio for
52:11
next year? They were probably plus 500 I'm
52:15
guessing maybe. More than that.
52:26
NFL 1st overall pick Fernando Mendoza minus. 10,000 you got to
52:34
put up $10,000 to win 100 bucks ladies and gentlemen the next
52:38
guy is plus 4500 wow it's. Almost worth Raiders, right,
52:44
Fernando? Yeah, Unless they.
52:46
Change their mind, but they're not going to because they need a
52:50
quarterback. I mean, anything could.
52:54
Happen, but I don't see them changing their.
52:56
Mind no. Now will he start?
52:59
Right away. Because that's the thing that I
53:01
I like. Who's there?
53:02
Dino Smith? Yeah.
53:05
I don't. I don't know if the Raiders care
53:07
about Gino after the. Season they had here Here's the
53:09
thing I thought about with Eli not making the Pro Bowl if.
53:12
Ben McAdoo never sat him down on the Hall of the Hall of Fame.
53:15
If Ben McAdoo never sat him down that that one week for in
53:18
replace of Gino Smith, would he have gotten in this time?
53:23
Say that again. OK, Eli had the longest
53:27
consecutive. Streak of playing a game with a
53:29
quarterback ever. And Ben McAdoo sat him down OK
53:34
it's your only game he missed in his 16 year career.
53:39
Like you think that capped? Him out No, I'm.
53:41
Just saying would if if that never happened.
53:44
Because that's it, that's the chink on the armor, right?
53:46
Right. Because that's a chink on the
53:47
armor, right? It's it's one of the things you
53:49
can argue till you're till you're blue in the face, but
53:52
that's one of those things. Deion Sanders actually came out
53:55
agreeing with what we talked about that the in the Pro Bowl,
53:58
fuck the Pro Bowl. The Hall of Fame should be voted
54:01
on by the Hall of Fame members. Yes, period.
54:06
And I. Agree with that.
54:07
I missed too the. Bears were plus 25. 100, not
54:10
plus 500. OK, they're way down the list.
54:13
Yeah, that's why. That's because they're the
54:16
Bears. That's because they're the
54:18
Bears, but it's because they're Giants.
54:20
You know, certain teams, you just, you just, they've been
54:22
gone for so long. You just, it's higher odds if
54:26
they win the Super Bowl. I won 100.
54:28
And 30 bucks for a $5 bet, Bruno.
54:33
I win more if the Giants win so. The Giants must be lower than
54:35
the Bears. I would hope so since you guys
54:38
only. Won what?
54:39
Two games? 2 two games.
54:41
That's good. Two games, but.
54:43
Hey, man, you know that's why they play the game any given
54:46
Sunday. The future is bright, though.
54:48
You got John Harbaugh. Yeah, and the people he's
54:51
putting around and people are. Mad about the Matt Negi thing,
54:53
but I don't get why they're mad about it.
54:55
Because he was the next OC for years.
54:57
Yeah, he's a great offensive coordinator.
54:59
Yeah. He's not a head coach.
55:01
He's a great offensive coordinator.
55:02
Yeah, it's like Kingsbury, not a great head coach.
55:05
Good. OC Gable not a good head coach,
55:07
good OC and you need those. Somebody's got to do that.
55:11
Yeah, you tried it. You failed.
55:13
Now go back. To your lane.
55:17
Yeah. You guys got a quarterback, you
55:18
got a running back, you just. Got a wide receiver, Malik
55:21
Neighbors, Yeah. Definitely need an offensive
55:25
line. We've always we've been an
55:27
offensive line for a decade, man.
55:29
I don't know. Well, that was the Bears problem
55:30
for 100 years too, everybody. Kept bitching about the
55:32
quarterback and I was like, if you only have a second to throw
55:36
the ball, ladies and gentlemen, you're not going to be a very
55:39
effective quarterback in the NFL.
55:41
That was your that was the Giants problem this year too.
55:44
People just blasted through the line.
55:45
Well, they haven't had a quarterback since the last.
55:48
Couple, I'm sorry, a law offense alignment since the last couple
55:51
years Eli played because, you know, they just didn't.
55:54
You know, that was the other thing that that bugs me about,
55:56
you know, again, he's probably the toughest quarterback that
55:58
ever played the game. Oh yeah, he kept getting back up
56:01
every time. He played an entire season with
56:03
plantar flasciitis. Oh, and that hurts so bad, I
56:07
know. People that have had it,
56:08
thankfully I've never had it, but I know that I've been around
56:11
to have. Holy crap, they say that's
56:13
painful. Yep, Yep.
56:16
I don't think they. Like Peyton.
56:17
So they're keeping Eli out for a couple more years, which is
56:19
fine. I don't think Eli cares.
56:20
Really, Eli. Or maybe they've been talking
56:22
too much mad shit on Monday night.
56:23
Football and maybe, well, Eli. But see, that's the thing.
56:27
Like like Drew Brees played for stats, Eli played to win.
56:30
So I think it's bullshit Drew Brees got in his first ballot.
56:33
I just, I, he was just just anybody I've heard make the
56:36
argument for Drew Brees. Says exactly what you and I
56:38
discussed on that podcast where you know, the first thing you're
56:41
going to hear those people say is, but Drew Brees did this and
56:44
he averaged this and did that and but Eli beat the GOAT twice
56:50
and was in the that's got to. Count for something, yeah.
56:53
Yeah, they do. I agree, but you know.
56:56
All you football fans agree, whether you like it or not.
56:58
That because he won so many Super Bowls, Tom Brady is
57:01
arguably the greatest quarterback that's ever lived.
57:03
Agreed and I awarded. Which is true, so if that counts
57:09
for something then why doesn't he lies?
57:11
Right. Can't have your cake and eat it
57:13
too, right? You know, because.
57:15
Yeah, yeah, I agree with that 100.
57:19
Percent. All right, boys and girls, if
57:22
you're feeling sad, depressed, suicidal, don't do it.
57:26
That's just a stupid thing to do.
57:28
Go go outside, go go run, go journal, go screaming a pillow.
57:31
Go find somebody to talk to you. If you can't find somebody to
57:33
talk to you, text 988. Somebody's there to help you
57:35
understand your mindset and and change it.
57:38
Tomorrow's a better day with you in it, you know?
57:42
So don't leave a hole in somebody else's heart.
57:44
And if you're struggling with addiction, just be aware that
57:48
you too can overcome because 21 years is no laughing matter.
57:51
But I hit that 2 days ago. So it's not real, dude.
57:57
It's not real, man. It's not a real chip.
57:59
It's not real, bro. Yeah.
58:01
And. And to you, Jeffrey Brown, who?
58:02
Who slammed? That and, you know, cried foul.
58:05
I hope you have a better day, man 'cause that was kind of
58:07
dickish of you to to post on something.
58:09
It was full of nothing. I'll sell it for my brother.
58:11
Yeah. Nothing but positivity.
58:13
And you had to just don't ever. And I mean this.
58:18
It's the same thing. I I'll say this real quick
58:21
because I'm super proud of it. I use words that you should not
58:25
all the time towards people who aren't that way.
58:28
I have never made fun of somebody who couldn't defend
58:30
themselves. Don't ever put negativity into
58:35
someone celebrating their recovery from addiction.
58:39
That is a Dick move. Yeah.
58:42
Yeah. So congratulations.
58:44
Brother, thank you. I appreciate it, super proud of
58:46
you. You wouldn't be the.
58:47
Man, you are today had. You not made that choice, so
58:50
Amen. So we'll just put this back on
58:52
the. Screen and you can you can take
58:54
us out one day. Where you will go.
59:27
Feel the trail behind your eyes. Feel yourself and meet yourself.
59:35
Take a moment. Look at your tear fight.
59:39
Your bail. That you must weed fight your
59:44
bail, but you must weed. Oh, is this baby to your finger?
1:00:56
Come down here, you haven't bounced
1:01:12
out it and see your sands. You can spunk fighting, wait for
1:01:18
the dead, or. When?
1:01:20
He's going to the rabbit and he put in the wind.
1:01:22
You ain't no quizzes. We're playing Found and you took
1:01:29
your breath on the Almighty. You gotta dream Who in your life
1:01:36
to keep on going every day? Take the trail behind your eyes.
1:01:43
Feel the soul evolution now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:01:56
yeah. Take a moment.
1:02:00
Look at you. See it.
1:02:02
Fight your family. To you more clear.
1:02:30
You gotta, you gotta. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta.