Latest / Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation / PGA DFS | Truist Championship | May 6, 2025 | DraftKings DFS Picks, Plays and Process
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- 0:49Speaker 1: What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberlin here aka Totec and Tambo
- 0:52Speaker 1: back for another edition of the PGA Show here on
- 0:54Speaker 1: the Ship Nation YouTube station. Got my guy Hoops to
- 0:57Speaker 1: here with me as always gonna break down all things
- 1:00Speaker 1: were the truest championship, Hoopster. We got another no cut.
- 1:03Speaker 1: You love these events, by the way, you got the
- 1:05Speaker 1: you know, seventy two men the best in the world,
- 1:08Speaker 1: say Scotty. Obviously he's not in there after the big
- 1:10Speaker 1: the big win last week over a touchdown win for Scotty.
- 1:13Speaker 1: But we're back. We got a great field and some
- 1:15Speaker 1: good tournaments over on draftings. What's going on, man? How
- 1:17Speaker 1: you doing?
- 1:18Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean, like we continue to talk about it.
- 1:21Speaker 2: It's majors or signature events. Outside of that, it's like,
- 1:24Speaker 2: you know, really dusty fields. I mean yeah, I mean,
- 1:26Speaker 2: kudos to Scotty for getting the job done it, but
- 1:28Speaker 2: it's like, you know, if the top pitcher in baseball
- 1:32Speaker 2: goes and does a minor league rehab start somewhere and
- 1:35Speaker 2: just absolutely dust the minor league team, and it's kind
- 1:38Speaker 2: of what it is. You know, good for him obviously,
- 1:40Speaker 2: but just not all that appealing. So at least we
- 1:43Speaker 2: get some big names here this week. Big prize is
- 1:46Speaker 2: obviously across the industry and it should be a nice
- 1:48Speaker 2: stretch with the PGA Championship coming up coming up next week.
- 1:52Speaker 2: But you know, solid Field, I thinks seventy two guys
- 1:54Speaker 2: Jason Day did just withdraw and then Patrick Rogers is
- 1:59Speaker 2: coming in. But it does not have a salary on
- 2:01Speaker 2: draftingst I imagine it'll be like in the six k
- 2:04Speaker 2: range when they had him in there. But yeah, solid Field,
- 2:07Speaker 2: looking forward to to talking through it with you.
- 2:09Speaker 1: Yeah, usually Jason Day. Wait, so you know, does the
- 2:11Speaker 1: Florida stuff when e wd's goes to Disney, but non
- 2:13Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. And speaking of that new course, this week's
- 2:16Speaker 1: none of this course history stuff for all that going back,
- 2:18Speaker 1: we're gonna be looking at it from just sort of
- 2:20Speaker 1: a whole new perspective. We got some inside track in
- 2:22Speaker 1: the discord today. I thought was awesome some of the
- 2:24Speaker 1: members bringing some stuff from members, bringing stuff from cour
- 2:28Speaker 1: members of the course. So I know a lot there's
- 2:29Speaker 1: people out there to watched YouTube videos and people that
- 2:31Speaker 1: have played it all this, that and the other. But
- 2:33Speaker 1: I thought that was some awesome insight over in our discord.
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- 3:08Speaker 1: the major next week and who's our new course? What
- 3:11Speaker 1: are your sort of takeaways coming into this one? Because
- 3:13Speaker 1: I saw the tea times just came out and it
- 3:15Speaker 1: looks like they bunched them all up together just to
- 3:18Speaker 1: sort of play them all really right around the same time.
- 3:20Speaker 1: So I think it just comes down to more how
- 3:21Speaker 1: you think the course is going to play?
- 3:23Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's not really going to be much
- 3:25Speaker 2: of a weather regardless of what sort of weather situation
- 3:29Speaker 2: we have, And that's kind of the case usually when
- 3:31Speaker 2: we get these no cut events, because again, the tee
- 3:34Speaker 2: times are pretty stacked in there, and it's you know,
- 3:38Speaker 2: not big discrepancies in when guys do tee off and
- 3:42Speaker 2: then a new course it's you know, we're not going
- 3:45Speaker 2: to have like the course history. So anytime this sort
- 3:49Speaker 2: of thing pops up, I'm just looking at overall solid golfers, right,
- 3:54Speaker 2: like guys that are good and kind of all facets
- 3:56Speaker 2: of the game. It's a shorter course, you have to
- 3:58Speaker 2: imagine that some of the shorter hitters are in play
- 4:02Speaker 2: here as well, like more so than a long course.
- 4:05Speaker 2: So yeah, it's a unique sort of week obviously because
- 4:09Speaker 2: a lot of times we do have course history to
- 4:11Speaker 2: go off of. Don't really have that obviously this week,
- 4:14Speaker 2: So you're just looking certain skills that's that they might be,
- 4:17Speaker 2: you know, trying to attack this week. But yeah, that's
- 4:21Speaker 2: you know, kind kind of where we're at.
- 4:22Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of people are saying too, like it's
- 4:24Speaker 1: soaked right now and think of the bomber approach is
- 4:26Speaker 1: going to be better and sort of how they're looking
- 4:28Speaker 1: at it, but I guess we'll have to have to
- 4:30Speaker 1: wait and see. Anyway, this is going to be a
- 4:31Speaker 1: fun one, I think. And then it just comes down
- 4:33Speaker 1: to looking at the player pool. We're going to spend
- 4:35Speaker 1: time in Sabersim actually looking at what we always do,
- 4:37Speaker 1: which is how people are playing the game. Talk about
- 4:39Speaker 1: this a ton with people. I've got a ton of
- 4:41Speaker 1: calls with other DFS players too, and saying that they
- 4:43Speaker 1: spend so much time on these content shows that we're
- 4:46Speaker 1: going back and forth in the discord about this, like
- 4:48Speaker 1: the the amount of time some people spend on just
- 4:50Speaker 1: you know, listening to content. I know we're doing contents.
- 4:53Speaker 1: You think it's it's but it's content that doesn't actually
- 4:55Speaker 1: talk about the game that's being played and looking at
- 4:58Speaker 1: it how we do it. So I think that's a
- 4:59Speaker 1: big difference why the show each week and hearing people
- 5:01Speaker 1: comment on what we do is actually going to look
- 5:03Speaker 1: at how the field's playing or is expected to play,
- 5:06Speaker 1: what we can do to sort of leverage against that,
- 5:08Speaker 1: or ways that we can play differently. And I think
- 5:10Speaker 1: that's a key component, whereas a lot of people are
- 5:12Speaker 1: spending time on just entertainment and fun. I'm not against that,
- 5:15Speaker 1: but I do think there's something to be said for
- 5:16Speaker 1: those that are playing at the highest level or having
- 5:18Speaker 1: more success, consistent process things like that, you have to
- 5:21Speaker 1: sort of dial it in, So we'll we'll spend time
- 5:23Speaker 1: on that. Is there anything else just from a no
- 5:26Speaker 1: cut perspective, hoop that you want to bring up? I mean,
- 5:28Speaker 1: one thing that was said today that I thought was
- 5:30Speaker 1: quite interesting is that it is the week before a major,
- 5:34Speaker 1: So do they really want to just hammer these guys?
- 5:36Speaker 1: They're already you know, next week. I know it's the
- 5:37Speaker 1: PGA Championship and people make fun of it. It's not
- 5:40Speaker 1: the US Open, it's not the Masters, it's or the Open.
- 5:42Speaker 1: But you know, this is usually not a spot where
- 5:45Speaker 1: they want to just pound these guys, right, So I
- 5:46Speaker 1: think there will be some scoring here for sure.
- 5:49Speaker 2: Absolutely. I mean I definitely anticipate scoring here. I anticipate,
- 5:54Speaker 2: you know, big under par score to win this week,
- 5:57Speaker 2: and you know, a lot of times before majors or
- 6:01Speaker 2: big events, people oh, what's the motivation? While it is
- 6:03Speaker 2: nice that it is actually like a signature event, so
- 6:06Speaker 2: the prize prize pool is pretty damn big, Like I
- 6:09Speaker 2: think it's like twenty million and I'm sure it's like
- 6:10Speaker 2: three or four million to first, so they're going to
- 6:12Speaker 2: be incentivized. WinCE, you don't have to worry about, oh
- 6:14Speaker 2: is this guy just coming here to get his game right? Like,
- 6:17Speaker 2: I'm not factoring that in at all in terms of
- 6:20Speaker 2: a no cut event, obviously, Stars and Scrubs are the
- 6:24Speaker 2: Stars and Scrubs sort of build more in play because
- 6:27Speaker 2: your guys are obviously going to get the all four rounds,
- 6:29Speaker 2: assuming they don't WD at any point. So I think
- 6:32Speaker 2: Stars and Scrubs will be a popular build this week
- 6:36Speaker 2: for sure. And you know, the mid tier as we
- 6:39Speaker 2: go through, you'll see I don't think is super super strong.
- 6:41Speaker 2: So I think we could even see more Stars and
- 6:43Speaker 2: Scrubs this week normal than we normally see.
- 6:47Speaker 1: Yeah, and also too, I will say, just going back
- 6:49Speaker 1: not all Like again, it seems like not a lot
- 6:51Speaker 1: of people follow this fully enough or look into it
- 6:53Speaker 1: or actually review and go back and whatnot. But it's
- 6:56Speaker 1: just those low rounds too that you need to have, right,
- 6:58Speaker 1: Like I know it sounds like second a sure, oh
- 7:00Speaker 1: I get it, but how do you know this, that
- 7:01Speaker 1: and the other. It's like that's why I'm looking. I'm
- 7:03Speaker 1: never against in a no cut. Regardless of what everybody
- 7:06Speaker 1: else is telling you. The stat profile is just looking
- 7:08Speaker 1: for the super volatile players that can have a couple
- 7:12Speaker 1: of new grounds. Because a couple of sixty fives, even
- 7:14Speaker 1: if it comes with a seventy one and a sixty
- 7:16Speaker 1: eight or something, while others have you know, sixty nine,
- 7:19Speaker 1: sixty nine, seventy sixty eight, they probably crushed them. On
- 7:22Speaker 1: the scorecard. There's eagles or whatever there is. If there's
- 7:25Speaker 1: you know, chip ins, things like that, you'll find there's streaks,
- 7:28Speaker 1: there's all these different ways to get there. So just
- 7:30Speaker 1: keep that in mind when you're playing a no cut.
- 7:32Speaker 1: That stuff comes to fruition more often than you would think.
- 7:35Speaker 1: And it's like, oh, I felt like they didn't really
- 7:36Speaker 1: do anything, or they didn't they weren't even all the
- 7:38Speaker 1: way up the board. No, they just scored really well
- 7:40Speaker 1: for two rounds. Those those rounds go a long way
- 7:42Speaker 1: in these tournaments. So you have you got sabersim up.
- 7:46Speaker 1: We could start there and sort of just see what
- 7:49Speaker 1: we're looking at here for this week and then roll
- 7:50Speaker 1: it out from there.
- 7:52Speaker 2: Yeah, so I did kind of the standard. I went
- 7:54Speaker 2: in built a thousand teams didn't change anything. Sabersim projection
- 7:59Speaker 2: Saber some ownership is currently showing up. So and I
- 8:05Speaker 2: sorted by projected score, which I like. You know, sometimes
- 8:07Speaker 2: we were using Saber score, but I like sorting by
- 8:10Speaker 2: projected score just to see what we get based on
- 8:13Speaker 2: the projections and kind of what I expected here. So
- 8:16Speaker 2: I got one hundred and fifty teams Rory is twelve thousand,
- 8:22Speaker 2: and we got ninety five percent ninety eight percent Rory
- 8:26Speaker 2: in these lineups based on projected score, no surprise of adults.
- 8:30Speaker 2: Be very easy to play Rory. Actually wish they would
- 8:32Speaker 2: have given him kind of the Scottie treatment and got
- 8:34Speaker 2: him a little closer to thirteen thousand. I think that
- 8:36Speaker 2: would have kept his ownership in check a little bit.
- 8:39Speaker 2: Twelve thousand. I mean, it's just easy to play him,
- 8:41Speaker 2: and it's easy. Not only is it easy to play him,
- 8:44Speaker 2: it's easy to play him with like another stud. Like
- 8:46Speaker 2: if you play Rory by himself, you still got seventy
- 8:49Speaker 2: six hundred dollars left per spot. Very easy to fill
- 8:52Speaker 2: that in. Let's say you want to play Rory with
- 8:55Speaker 2: another stud. I'm just clicking Patrick Cantley still over seven thousand,
- 9:00Speaker 2: Like you're seven and twenty five dollars left per spot.
- 9:04Speaker 2: It's just easy to play Rory this week, and you
- 9:08Speaker 2: know they're showing forty oh, forty five percent. I wouldn't
- 9:12Speaker 2: be surprised if it gets over fifty. I don't know
- 9:14Speaker 2: if that's like crazy or anything, but I just imagine
- 9:17Speaker 2: like a lot of people are going to be clicking
- 9:18Speaker 2: that name. He's I'm playing so so well, and it's
- 9:22Speaker 2: just not that hard to play them. So you're going
- 9:24Speaker 2: to get a ton of Rory, as you can see here.
- 9:28Speaker 2: And I guess that's probably like the main initial takeaway
- 9:30Speaker 2: just looking at this, I'm not surprised at all. I
- 9:32Speaker 2: figured this would be the case, and I think the
- 9:36Speaker 2: ownership comes up even even higher than this forty five percent.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it is what it is. I know it's
- 9:42Speaker 1: kind of does suck said, would just take what we get,
- 9:44Speaker 1: but you know, we liked how they did Scotty's Price
- 9:46Speaker 1: last week. The thing here is it's a no cut
- 9:48Speaker 1: signature event. There is legit dudes in the six K
- 9:51Speaker 1: range that you definitely feel very comfortable clicking s' to
- 9:54Speaker 1: your original point of stars and scrubs and then tying
- 9:56Speaker 1: it together with your Rory ownership call. I think we're
- 9:58Speaker 1: more in that realm. A couple notes there, like again
- 10:01Speaker 1: like Ross says winners first decent motivation. You mentioned that,
- 10:04Speaker 1: and then Scooter and him both mentioned the caddy flips. Well,
- 10:07Speaker 1: obviously Homa has a new caddy because Homa's old caddy
- 10:10Speaker 1: went to JT, picked up a win at the hair
- 10:13Speaker 1: toa j open and now he hops on. I think
- 10:15Speaker 1: Colin picked up the phone right away. I was like,
- 10:16Speaker 1: if you can revive JT, I'm a pretty good ball
- 10:18Speaker 1: striker myself, maybe you can help me out. Come on
- 10:21Speaker 1: over and call and got Max homas old caddy in there.
- 10:24Speaker 1: So I think that's pretty interesting. This is a good thing, too,
- 10:27Speaker 1: Ross with all the comments today, I like it. But
- 10:29Speaker 1: said Bobby Mack can't miss the cut, don't mind him
- 10:31Speaker 1: at the Jason Day price point. Don't think the Jason
- 10:34Speaker 1: Day withdraw was late enough for people just to pivot right,
- 10:37Speaker 1: Like you know, if this was a last second Jason
- 10:39Speaker 1: Deay withdraw, you would see everybody just run to move
- 10:41Speaker 1: to Bobby Mack. And I know it's not fully what
- 10:43Speaker 1: you're saying, but is noting that that's just kind of
- 10:44Speaker 1: the point as well, and then the last one here
- 10:47Speaker 1: was Andrew. This is fine. I think like taking in
- 10:49Speaker 1: both is a good idea. I guess a lot of
- 10:51Speaker 1: people tell me they take in these additional shows because
- 10:55Speaker 1: they want to know what everybody's doing and they want
- 10:57Speaker 1: to pick up the stuff around the industry. But most
- 10:58Speaker 1: of those people don't really know or haven't learned enough
- 11:01Speaker 1: to apply it, I find, And that's the tricky part.
- 11:03Speaker 1: And so I just use the analogy hoop of like
- 11:06Speaker 1: if you're going on I'm in the big health zone
- 11:08Speaker 1: right now. But if you're going on a diet, like
- 11:10Speaker 1: you can get away with a cheap meal if you
- 11:12Speaker 1: eat good for two weeks straight or something, or you
- 11:14Speaker 1: know you're on track and you all of a sudden
- 11:15Speaker 1: pick up a cheap meal, it's not going to kill you.
- 11:17Speaker 1: But if you are really trying to lose the weight
- 11:19Speaker 1: or in this analogy, win the money, you should spend
- 11:21Speaker 1: more time on like working on your game, seeing how
- 11:24Speaker 1: tools like sabersim can put you in the position to
- 11:26Speaker 1: actually see what things do. And we're going to do
- 11:28Speaker 1: some of that here in a minute. What's what's your thoughts?
- 11:30Speaker 2: Well, kind of remind it's kind of like a metaphor
- 11:32Speaker 2: of how we've built our business. Right, you can listen
- 11:35Speaker 2: to as many shows as you want and pick up
- 11:38Speaker 2: little nuggets here and there. I mean there's there's people
- 11:41Speaker 2: that not even in the DFS space, but other spaces.
- 11:44Speaker 2: When I listen to their stuff, I don't necessarily, you know,
- 11:48Speaker 2: love them as content creators whatever it is, but you
- 11:50Speaker 2: can pick up pieces of information from anyone, little nuggets
- 11:54Speaker 2: here and there. And it's the same with like our
- 11:57Speaker 2: DFS content, Like there's not an answer. There's not one answer.
- 12:00Speaker 2: It's not one piece of content that's going to give
- 12:02Speaker 2: you the absolute path to victory. Yet you know, maybe
- 12:06Speaker 2: one night we absolutely nail our cores for MLB or
- 12:09Speaker 2: golf or whatever it is, and that was the answer
- 12:11Speaker 2: that day. But that's not going to be the answer
- 12:13Speaker 2: every single day. So that's why we created like the
- 12:15Speaker 2: all encompassing product where we got the you know for golf,
- 12:19Speaker 2: the course fit rankings, the value report, the slate plan,
- 12:24Speaker 2: which is basically three different pieces of information. We got
- 12:27Speaker 2: the Discord community, we got the partnership with Saber, Like
- 12:31Speaker 2: you gotta tie everything together. It's not one thing that
- 12:34Speaker 2: that's the answer. So I'm good listening to different people,
- 12:37Speaker 2: but you know, just know that there's no this guy
- 12:40Speaker 2: has the answer this week sort of thing. It's like
- 12:42Speaker 2: all people.
- 12:42Speaker 1: Have a hard time like remembering where they got it.
- 12:44Speaker 1: To your point, if you're using all of our stuff,
- 12:46Speaker 1: like they're all pieces of the puzzle, find your process right,
- 12:49Speaker 1: put it all together and be able to make it
- 12:51Speaker 1: happen that way. So I definitely like that call, and
- 12:54Speaker 1: I think this is an example like what you'll do here,
- 12:55Speaker 1: So you just did a dry run what I would
- 12:58Speaker 1: do next? Somebody asked you about this yesterday. I'm not
- 13:00Speaker 1: sure your thoughts. I love that we're going by projected
- 13:02Speaker 1: score now. I mean that was asked of me as well.
- 13:04Speaker 1: I think that's a key point is let's not look
- 13:06Speaker 1: at Saberscore is going to give you great lineups if
- 13:08Speaker 1: you have nothing else, So why not you saberscore, but
- 13:10Speaker 1: for a dry run, use it how the average player
- 13:12Speaker 1: is using it. And clearly Rory's that easy to fit.
- 13:15Speaker 1: But I don't think hoop that anybody or many quessions.
- 13:18Speaker 1: I would say anybody, many people will go almost one
- 13:20Speaker 1: hundred percent Rory. So if you just go to your
- 13:23Speaker 1: exposure and cap at like sixty let's say, let's be
- 13:26Speaker 1: more realistic with it. The reason I like to do
- 13:28Speaker 1: that as part of my dry run process on a
- 13:30Speaker 1: week like this is because it will tell me it'll
- 13:34Speaker 1: give off more ownership. It doesn't just everyone else thinkings like, oh,
- 13:36Speaker 1: does that just put it all to Colin. No, it's
- 13:39Speaker 1: going to disperse it some up there. But then it's
- 13:41Speaker 1: also going to change some of the value plays, and
- 13:43Speaker 1: that gives me more of a true idea on a
- 13:45Speaker 1: dry run of what people are going to do. So
- 13:48Speaker 1: I would apply that once you make the change and
- 13:50Speaker 1: see what we get for exposures from there.
- 13:52Speaker 2: I just wanted to add on one thing, so definitely
- 13:55Speaker 2: that is one way to do it, and then another
- 13:56Speaker 2: way to do it, which I've done both, and I
- 13:59Speaker 2: do both is sorted by salary and say I know
- 14:04Speaker 2: I'm getting ninety ninety eight percent rory, so that means
- 14:07Speaker 2: there's guys up top that I'm not getting much of.
- 14:09Speaker 2: Are any of these guys priorities for me? Like do
- 14:12Speaker 2: I definitely want a good chunk of Colin or Xander
- 14:16Speaker 2: or JT. And if that is the case, set some
- 14:19Speaker 2: minimums here, say give make sure I'm getting you know,
- 14:21Speaker 2: I really like Xander, make sure I'm getting twenty percent Xander,
- 14:25Speaker 2: and I do. Also, let's say you like Mori Kala,
- 14:28Speaker 2: I want at least twenty more Kawa and you've set
- 14:32Speaker 2: the cap here, what is going to happen No matter what,
- 14:34Speaker 2: even if you don't set the cap, the Rory number
- 14:37Speaker 2: is gonna come down. So you can do either way
- 14:39Speaker 2: or both ways. And see, so now we're still getting
- 14:42Speaker 2: the eighty five that said just yeah, we don't want
- 14:44Speaker 2: more than sixty. What does that do for us? Got sixty,
- 14:48Speaker 2: we're getting twenty six more Kala. Now we're getting twenty
- 14:50Speaker 2: five Xander. We're getting more JT as well. So by
- 14:53Speaker 2: capping Rory, we're getting more JT, and it's spread out,
- 14:56Speaker 2: spread out to a lot of guys up top. By
- 14:59Speaker 2: just making those two move like, didn't really need to
- 15:01Speaker 2: do too much else. I mean, now, yeah, twenty six Morikawa,
- 15:05Speaker 2: twenty five Xander seventeen, JT getting twenty three, Ludwig getting
- 15:10Speaker 2: thirty three percent. Can't lay And again it's back to
- 15:13Speaker 2: the point that we made in the opening, and you
- 15:16Speaker 2: know I made it and you agree with me. Is
- 15:18Speaker 2: the fact that it's just very easy to play Rory
- 15:21Speaker 2: and still get exposure to all these guys up top.
- 15:24Speaker 2: It's a very soft pricing, i'd say, overall this week,
- 15:27Speaker 2: and it's going to be a lot of teams like this.
- 15:29Speaker 2: It's not going to be just Rory and a bunch
- 15:32Speaker 2: of cheap dudes. It's gonna be Rory someone else up here,
- 15:36Speaker 2: whether it's Collins, Xander, JT. Ludwig, Patrick Cantlay, any of
- 15:40Speaker 2: these dudes. It's going to be two of those guys
- 15:43Speaker 2: right in most builds. And then it's going to be
- 15:45Speaker 2: you know, whatever fits on the cheap end, and you
- 15:47Speaker 2: can see it with these teams. Rory Ludvig, four guys
- 15:51Speaker 2: seventy seven hundred or below, Rory Ludvig, four guys seventy
- 15:55Speaker 2: four hundred and below, Rory Morikawa, And I mean you
- 15:59Speaker 2: look at these teams, right, you play the two most
- 16:01Speaker 2: expensive guys, Rory and Morikawa, You're still getting like four
- 16:05Speaker 2: legit golfers to go with them. It's not like you're
- 16:07Speaker 2: playing like a complete shithead getting pendrith Okha Michael Kim
- 16:12Speaker 2: I guess follower could be considered a shithead, But you know,
- 16:14Speaker 2: sixty three hundred's.
- 16:16Speaker 1: Kind of priced in definitely something there for that.
- 16:18Speaker 2: So you know, this is I guess a little bit different.
- 16:21Speaker 2: You got Rory, Daniel Berger, and Keegan Bradley back to
- 16:26Speaker 2: Rory can't lay, Rory can't lay, Rory can't.
- 16:29Speaker 1: Lay with Berger. When it went to the two eight
- 16:32Speaker 1: K guys, you still get six K guy, right, it
- 16:34Speaker 1: just went uh, it went Burger.
- 16:36Speaker 2: Yeah, and no six k yeah.
- 16:38Speaker 1: Right, So anything like two or more six k. It's
- 16:41Speaker 1: funny because even though these a lot of these are
- 16:43Speaker 1: still what we would be considering stars and scrubs, it's
- 16:46Speaker 1: still not really requiring multiple six K guys when in
- 16:50Speaker 1: reality there's probably multiples that you could use. And I
- 16:52Speaker 1: think if you did have again, we have it, but
- 16:54Speaker 1: we're not just you know, trying to sell it here
- 16:56Speaker 1: just to say it. But if you had the ultimate
- 16:57Speaker 1: package and you were looking at contest, sim oftentimes you're
- 17:01Speaker 1: gonna see that, you're gonna be like, oh, it's not
- 17:03Speaker 1: even that big of a change, but I'm now allowed
- 17:05Speaker 1: to still play a bunch of Rory this way. And
- 17:07Speaker 1: that was the thing last week, Hoop is with the
- 17:09Speaker 1: Scotty lineups, and you can do the same this week
- 17:11Speaker 1: with Rory. To be honest, nothing to do with weather
- 17:13Speaker 1: waves or anything like that. I always talk about building
- 17:15Speaker 1: in sets, but last week you could take you and
- 17:18Speaker 1: I had a bunch of this. But your best Scotty
- 17:20Speaker 1: lineups in in your Saber score even if you don't
- 17:24Speaker 1: have Ultimate package or in your contest sims. If you
- 17:26Speaker 1: do have Ultimate Package, you'd be able to see your
- 17:29Speaker 1: best Scotty lineups and what those look like. And last
- 17:31Speaker 1: week the answer was Scotty with a bunch of guys
- 17:34Speaker 1: under ten percent, and you were able to still get
- 17:36Speaker 1: unique lineups that were just just buying. They still had
- 17:38Speaker 1: good golfers in them, they still projected well, et cetera,
- 17:41Speaker 1: et cetera. It'll kind of do the work for you.
- 17:43Speaker 1: The tool really steps in and makes that happen. And
- 17:45Speaker 1: I guess I don't know if you use this, But
- 17:47Speaker 1: Andrew asked, do you guys use the value call them
- 17:51Speaker 1: much in Saber sim. I mean it's automatically putting better
- 17:54Speaker 1: values into your lineup. That's where you've got to make
- 17:56Speaker 1: some stands and decide on these value plays on how
- 17:59Speaker 1: you're gonna play.
- 18:00Speaker 2: You can, but I mean, really, the better the value,
- 18:03Speaker 2: the higher own the guy comes in at. I guess
- 18:07Speaker 2: like you're going to get a lot of those guys,
- 18:08Speaker 2: like the best values you're going to get in a
- 18:10Speaker 2: lot of your lineup, so you can I like looking
- 18:13Speaker 2: at it more for for other sports. I don't look
- 18:15Speaker 2: at it a ton, but other sports just to think
- 18:17Speaker 2: it makes more sense, like PGA, especially for the main slate,
- 18:22Speaker 2: Like I don't necessarily think it's super important, but you
- 18:25Speaker 2: can look at it again. It's you know, like we
- 18:26Speaker 2: talked about in the opion, it's about finding your process
- 18:28Speaker 2: and if that's you know, helpful in your process, certainly,
- 18:32Speaker 2: certainly do you can go ahead to it.
- 18:35Speaker 1: For a second. Actually because I want to. I will
- 18:37Speaker 1: point out something you just said is perfect that I
- 18:38Speaker 1: think we can add on to. This is probably be
- 18:40Speaker 1: helpful for people. But if you go to the value column,
- 18:44Speaker 1: I guess sorry, go back to sorting it by salary
- 18:46Speaker 1: before you do. So, Like the main thing I want
- 18:48Speaker 1: to show people this is kind of who a baseball
- 18:51Speaker 1: trick in the sense of, you know, you go to
- 18:53Speaker 1: the you know the you've seen it for years, you
- 18:54Speaker 1: play baseball forever and crush it. It's yeah, by the way,
- 18:57Speaker 1: congrats the other night at fifty k ship or an
- 18:59Speaker 1: MLB is been on fire. So after our guy should
- 19:01Speaker 1: lose three hundred and fifty k reels won it a
- 19:04Speaker 1: couple of times, a lot of members finding success in
- 19:06Speaker 1: MLB shout out in aids, putting out some good cores
- 19:08Speaker 1: the other night too, just to bring it up though,
- 19:11Speaker 1: you know, like you look at stacks, you're like, well,
- 19:12Speaker 1: everyone's clearly on the braves tonight. You used to do
- 19:14Speaker 1: this all the time with late night Dodgers. Yeah, you're
- 19:16Speaker 1: an amazing stack. If you put it side by side,
- 19:19Speaker 1: you know, some people are clicking them. Some people are
- 19:23Speaker 1: waiting to play them later on, but others can't. Right,
- 19:25Speaker 1: they got to just get it in early, push their
- 19:27Speaker 1: chips and they can't wait and be patient. If you
- 19:30Speaker 1: sort by price, which you just did, and see values
- 19:33Speaker 1: and go down to the bottom, I don't know exactly
- 19:35Speaker 1: who's gonna be the most popular value, but whoever it
- 19:37Speaker 1: might be, find a value that's really popping and then
- 19:41Speaker 1: you see, yeah, Pendrith, who's like just above and below him?
- 19:45Speaker 1: Look eight eight eight nine to two eight eight five
- 19:47Speaker 1: nine oh two, Like these values cannot all be chalk.
- 19:51Speaker 1: So if you find something like that where someone is
- 19:53Speaker 1: a popular the reason they're chalk is, like Hoop said,
- 19:56Speaker 1: the values getting pushed in the optimizer, the values making
- 19:59Speaker 1: them show up who and then people get it in
- 20:01Speaker 1: their head that they must be a good play if
- 20:03Speaker 1: you can take the stone over on shipping Nation and
- 20:07Speaker 1: match up these values with it to be able to
- 20:09Speaker 1: see and say, wow, I got three guys around Pendrith
- 20:12Speaker 1: that are all really good values, and in the stone
- 20:15Speaker 1: I see even this step further, I see this course
- 20:17Speaker 1: smit ranking, I see this number beside them, and they
- 20:20Speaker 1: still have a pretty good projection. Well it's just a
- 20:22Speaker 1: medium projection anyway, one new ground one way or the other,
- 20:25Speaker 1: and you've got the guy. So if you want to
- 20:27Speaker 1: use the value column like that, I think that's the
- 20:29Speaker 1: way to do it. You can use it to your
- 20:31Speaker 1: advantage and sort of find the next best stack in baseball,
- 20:34Speaker 1: you're finding the next best value golfer in PGM.
- 20:36Speaker 2: And the one thing for sure that again this is
- 20:40Speaker 2: the over arching big picture sort of thing, the one
- 20:43Speaker 2: thing for sure that the value column is going to
- 20:45Speaker 2: tell us this week, and there's no doubt about it.
- 20:47Speaker 2: You start by value and you see, oh wait, the
- 20:49Speaker 2: best value on the slates sixty two hundred, the second
- 20:52Speaker 2: best value is sixty four hundred, the third best value
- 20:55Speaker 2: is sixty one hundred, the fourth is sixty three hundred,
- 20:58Speaker 2: and so on. What can this? What is this going
- 21:00Speaker 2: to tell us? Stars and scrubs are going to be
- 21:03Speaker 2: very very popular this week for this reason because the
- 21:07Speaker 2: best values on the slate are dirt dirt cheap, and
- 21:11Speaker 2: then it's of coursing some of the high end guys,
- 21:13Speaker 2: which is exactly what we saw in our lineups when
- 21:16Speaker 2: we kind of go I started to go through them,
- 21:19Speaker 2: and very important this week. You know, we'll go through
- 21:21Speaker 2: the tiers and talk about some plays that stand out
- 21:24Speaker 2: for sure, but like roster construction is very very important
- 21:28Speaker 2: this week. There's no denying that. So let's see some
- 21:31Speaker 2: I guess what non rary teams and see what they
- 21:34Speaker 2: kind of look like. And it's going to be three guys,
- 21:36Speaker 2: three expensive guys, probably because you can get in the
- 21:38Speaker 2: three and not sacrifice most. That's going to be my prediction.
- 21:41Speaker 2: I haven't looked. Let's see first lineup correct softly Ludvig Cantley,
- 21:47Speaker 2: and then you're not even I mean, look at the teams,
- 21:49Speaker 2: you're just not even sacrificing much. You get three of
- 21:51Speaker 2: those guys, and well it goes to.
- 21:53Speaker 1: Even more stars and scrubs when he's out of the lineup,
- 21:56Speaker 1: because now you actually pick.
- 21:57Speaker 2: Up, you're going to play three of those guys. Most
- 21:59Speaker 2: of the teams will be glory in one other. Now it's
- 22:01Speaker 2: going to be three of those guys up top. And
- 22:04Speaker 2: it's really hard not to build this way right because
- 22:06Speaker 2: you want to win equity up top. It's it just
- 22:09Speaker 2: looks so easy. The one thing I can tell you
- 22:11Speaker 2: for sure this week, if you go balanced, you'll be different.
- 22:15Speaker 2: Do I think it's the right way to go. Probably not.
- 22:18Speaker 2: I mean there's just to me when we go through
- 22:20Speaker 2: the tiers, there's not a ton of win equity in there.
- 22:23Speaker 2: But going balance is definitely going to be different, as
- 22:25Speaker 2: you can see by all these teams. Three spends too.
- 22:29Speaker 2: So here's a Colum, Morkala Ludwig and then kind of
- 22:33Speaker 2: eight K, seven and six back to the three studs,
- 22:37Speaker 2: two studs, three stud if you consider Speed the stud
- 22:41Speaker 2: which I actually kind of like him this week, so
- 22:43Speaker 2: I'm good with that.
- 22:43Speaker 1: But last week you see him battle even on Sunday
- 22:45Speaker 1: he came through much like, Yeah, I thought that was solid.
- 22:48Speaker 2: Yeah, So you're just not going to see many teams
- 22:52Speaker 2: going like Lowry and McNeely, like the balance build is
- 22:57Speaker 2: just not going to be popular at all this week.
- 22:59Speaker 2: So if you like the balance build, you have nothing
- 23:01Speaker 2: to worry about in terms of ownership because you're gonna
- 23:03Speaker 2: be different right out of the gate. That's you know,
- 23:05Speaker 2: pretty much what this dry run tells me.
- 23:07Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll do keep that there for a second. I
- 23:09Speaker 1: want to do another change in a second. But I
- 23:10Speaker 1: will say too, this is another thing that goes overlooked.
- 23:12Speaker 1: I think in PGADFS is like and it seems obvious,
- 23:15Speaker 1: but and for some it will be. But for those
- 23:17Speaker 1: that don't understand, it is the concept. So we talked
- 23:19Speaker 1: about the Rory Price earlier, and you can't remove him.
- 23:22Speaker 1: He exists. It's Rory McIlroy. He's coming off winning the
- 23:25Speaker 1: career Grand Slam. Maybe he freed up completely and pulls
- 23:27Speaker 1: a Scottie here and beats this field is a stronger feel,
- 23:29Speaker 1: but you know he beats him by five or six,
- 23:31Speaker 1: But we'll see. But I'm saying you can't just remove him.
- 23:34Speaker 1: But when you do, in the example you did of
- 23:35Speaker 1: building lineups and being able to see it, the price
- 23:38Speaker 1: on call more cow is insane. The price on shit
- 23:40Speaker 1: like these guys are barely over ten k. That's what
- 23:43Speaker 1: makes it so different and so quote unquote bad because
- 23:45Speaker 1: if you're like, oh, I'm gonna build balance and I
- 23:47Speaker 1: think Ludwig is gonna win, that's very possible. Lud Big
- 23:50Speaker 1: could win this tournament at a price of ninety eight hundred.
- 23:53Speaker 1: But it's still so easy to stack another dude right
- 23:56Speaker 1: on top of him that having him in as your
- 23:58Speaker 1: first guy and then hoping to get all the rest
- 23:59Speaker 1: rates saying it can't happen. It's saying that explanation still
- 24:02Speaker 1: matters because people like, well, if I'm playing them, he
- 24:05Speaker 1: has to be a pivot to JT. Well what if
- 24:07Speaker 1: JT scores like he does at these no cuts, like
- 24:09Speaker 1: crazy comes fifth still scores, but lude Big wins. And
- 24:13Speaker 1: the answer was actually both. It's that's why you have
- 24:15Speaker 1: to be careful when people are just like pivot, pivot, pivot,
- 24:18Speaker 1: versus thinking about the whole picture. No matter what, there's
- 24:22Speaker 1: a million value plays in there that you can use.
- 24:24Speaker 1: We just saw them all, and there's six k guys
- 24:26Speaker 1: for days, and there's all kinds of things that you
- 24:28Speaker 1: can do differently. So while you're here. Now, what I
- 24:31Speaker 1: like to do is if you can sort by exposure
- 24:33Speaker 1: again even with your adjustments you made for Rory, and
- 24:35Speaker 1: just sort of keep that on the screen. Now, let's
- 24:38Speaker 1: do this. I think this is better to branch into
- 24:40Speaker 1: versus just going straight to the tears is change it
- 24:43Speaker 1: from projected score to saber score and just see and
- 24:48Speaker 1: to be honest to you, but it doesn't matter now,
- 24:50Speaker 1: But just a note. What I would typically do, just
- 24:53Speaker 1: so people out there know and they could try this
- 24:54Speaker 1: on their own, is I would open and it's starter
- 24:57Speaker 1: plans and above, but I would open build two or
- 25:00Speaker 1: take a picture a screenshow like your own thing, whatever
- 25:02Speaker 1: you do. I'm an old you can take a picture
- 25:04Speaker 1: of it and say, okay, what did I have on
- 25:05Speaker 1: these guys and let me go and compare because a
- 25:08Speaker 1: lot of the times who that'll tell you And it's
- 25:11Speaker 1: not going to be a secret with Rory McIlroy. But
- 25:12Speaker 1: let's say a value play pops up like crazy and
- 25:15Speaker 1: then they still pop up like crazy, that something about
- 25:18Speaker 1: them still makes sense in both runs. Well, then that's
- 25:21Speaker 1: something that you can sort of consider, and that's how
- 25:22Speaker 1: you can start to look at your virtual handbuilds for
- 25:25Speaker 1: single entry and things like that. So what do we
- 25:28Speaker 1: seeing differently when you moved to saber score. It looks
- 25:30Speaker 1: like Rory really came down some. It evened out that
- 25:33Speaker 1: upper level, right.
- 25:34Speaker 2: Yeah, Rory came down, and it's obviously because of this
- 25:37Speaker 2: number right here, the big ownership. You know they're going
- 25:40Speaker 2: to want to make some plays on high owned guys,
- 25:42Speaker 2: and you know Rory comes down to like, yeah, Mori
- 25:48Speaker 2: Kala comes up quite a bit in that that top tier.
- 25:51Speaker 2: Xander kind of stays the same. He was right in
- 25:53Speaker 2: that range. Let me just see some of these other
- 25:56Speaker 2: dudes at the top. Yeah, at Ludwig cat Lay there,
- 26:01Speaker 2: you know they're still right there around the twenty. The
- 26:03Speaker 2: main thing is Rory came down, Mari Kawa came up.
- 26:08Speaker 2: In terms of like the value plays, it looks like
- 26:10Speaker 2: it may have gotten sorted or spread out a little
- 26:13Speaker 2: bit more. Michael Kim, uh Taylor, Pendrith, Ben Griffin, Uh
- 26:18Speaker 2: see wu, I will say the ownership or the yeah
- 26:21Speaker 2: we got we're getting a little less on can't lay
- 26:24Speaker 2: Looking at the builds, they are a little bit different.
- 26:27Speaker 2: You know, it's not Rory another spend, It's Rory and
- 26:30Speaker 2: hitting this mid tier which we didn't see a lot
- 26:33Speaker 2: of in in the projected square build. It's Mori Kawa
- 26:37Speaker 2: hitting the mid tier. It's here's one of those other
- 26:40Speaker 2: ones of Rory and Ludwig and then other guys Xander
- 26:45Speaker 2: lud This would be like a different sort of build
- 26:47Speaker 2: right here with Hideki, Rory, Ludwig, j T. Luke. So
- 26:52Speaker 2: back to like the three studs here, So it's mixing
- 26:55Speaker 2: in some different things opposed when we are projected score
- 26:59Speaker 2: where it's very strictly it was Rory one other spend
- 27:02Speaker 2: and then you know, four cheapish plays and then if
- 27:05Speaker 2: you didn't have Rory, it was three spends and three values,
- 27:09Speaker 2: so a little bit different.
- 27:10Speaker 1: Sort my price again for a second, I just want
- 27:12Speaker 1: to show this too, because this actually leads to pretty
- 27:14Speaker 1: much what you've said. If you go to exposure and
- 27:16Speaker 1: scroll down now, so keep the exposure tab close by
- 27:20Speaker 1: it or no, sorry, like stay by salary.
- 27:22Speaker 2: But just yeah, you like the exposure column over more.
- 27:27Speaker 2: Let's see if we can.
- 27:28Speaker 1: Start going through the tiers anyway, but I usually drag
- 27:30Speaker 1: it over. But my point would be what you see here.
- 27:32Speaker 1: Why I was bringing it up is when you look
- 27:34Speaker 1: by the salaries going back to your talk about how
- 27:36Speaker 1: you thought the balance build might not be the way well,
- 27:39Speaker 1: Saber score and projected score both. This is another thing.
- 27:42Speaker 1: People think you're looking at it for just for picks
- 27:44Speaker 1: and plays, and we can't talk enough about that not
- 27:46Speaker 1: being the case. Is I'm also noticing a trend. And
- 27:49Speaker 1: if you look at exposure and salary and go down
- 27:52Speaker 1: to the balanced range, look at you know, Hovland eight percent,
- 27:58Speaker 1: Sepstraca eight, Daniel Burger six, Shane Lowry eight six seven four,
- 28:03Speaker 1: it's telling you the build is some version of using
- 28:07Speaker 1: multiple guys up top and some version of using multiple
- 28:10Speaker 1: down low. And for everyone who's worried about ownership, but
- 28:13Speaker 1: all those guys in the seven k's are going to
- 28:14Speaker 1: be owned, they can't all be owned. It's gonna be
- 28:16Speaker 1: spread up huge. There's options in the six case that
- 28:19Speaker 1: are great values and just as good as them that
- 28:22Speaker 1: won't get any ownership really overall. So just another prime
- 28:25Speaker 1: way to look at it, Hoop, It's not just for
- 28:28Speaker 1: the tier plays. Like every other podcast or show is
- 28:30Speaker 1: going to go through with you. We're using to now
- 28:32Speaker 1: see that from a roster construction standpoint, Saber score will
- 28:35Speaker 1: give you a little bit of a portfolio. You'll have
- 28:37Speaker 1: Burger in some lineups that make sense, that are different
- 28:40Speaker 1: and Straka, but your overall exposures to those guys are
- 28:43Speaker 1: just not that high. When building what it's seeing as
- 28:47Speaker 1: good lineups. It doesn't mean they'll work, but just a note.
- 28:49Speaker 1: When you're looking at anything else, you got to add there.
- 28:51Speaker 2: No, I mean in this question, like Scotti nuking last
- 28:54Speaker 2: week will lead to Rory being higher on this Rory
- 28:57Speaker 2: is going to be high owned and he's probably gonna
- 28:59Speaker 2: get even more ownership. And to me, it's not necessarily
- 29:02Speaker 2: because what Scotty did last week. It's because of the
- 29:05Speaker 2: price tag is too low at twelve k and how
- 29:08Speaker 2: easy it is to play him. So another week, different
- 29:11Speaker 2: players like, yeah, maybe this has an impact. I don't
- 29:14Speaker 2: personally think it has an impact. He's already gonna have
- 29:16Speaker 2: high ownership. It's probably going to go up even higher
- 29:19Speaker 2: when people realize how easy it is to play him.
- 29:22Speaker 1: I agree, I agree fully, And that's the other thing
- 29:24Speaker 1: that you're going to notice when you go through it.
- 29:26Speaker 1: So anything else you've got to add, just on the
- 29:29Speaker 1: saber side of things, or anything else you want to
- 29:31Speaker 1: look at there. If not, we could sort of talk
- 29:33Speaker 1: through it a little bit from top down, just to
- 29:35Speaker 1: see and just have a look at who some of
- 29:36Speaker 1: these guys are. But I still like having this up
- 29:38Speaker 1: because we can see who it sort of wants us
- 29:41Speaker 1: to play, who it likes, and that way, you know,
- 29:44Speaker 1: you know what we're thinking when we go through the ranges.
- 29:46Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, not really bad. We'll have more conversations as
- 29:50Speaker 2: we go on. We already talked about Rory's you know
- 29:53Speaker 2: the best. What are his odds this week? I got
- 29:55Speaker 2: to be pretty low, right, I didn't even look at that.
- 29:58Speaker 1: I honestly, that's why they're talking about the Scotty thing.
- 30:00Speaker 1: I think is just to break it down. But five
- 30:02Speaker 1: to one, give me five to one.
- 30:04Speaker 2: So it's like Scotty territory with this sort of thing.
- 30:07Speaker 2: At twelve it's gonna be very popular. Again. I think
- 30:09Speaker 2: he probably comes in higher than fifty percent. But that
- 30:12Speaker 2: doesn't mean these other guys are going to be unowned.
- 30:14Speaker 2: Like a lot of times, when you see someone with
- 30:17Speaker 2: this high ownership at twelve K, that means, oh, the
- 30:19Speaker 2: other guys in the ten k range are going to
- 30:21Speaker 2: be like unowned. Like, No, it's not the case because
- 30:23Speaker 2: you can easily play them together. So that's why you're
- 30:26Speaker 2: still seeing seventeen on Markaua, seventeen on Xander, sixteen on JT,
- 30:31Speaker 2: and which I do think is the case. It's going
- 30:33Speaker 2: to be a ton of Rory and then the rest
- 30:35Speaker 2: of these guys up there just gonna get spread out
- 30:37Speaker 2: because they're all. People are gonna want the little piece
- 30:40Speaker 2: of everyone, and that's what's gonna happen. You know, for me,
- 30:44Speaker 2: I think you kind of touched on it with JT.
- 30:46Speaker 2: Like his scoring is just crazy at these No Cut
- 30:49Speaker 2: events recently you talked about the spike rounds early on
- 30:53Speaker 2: where you kind of need to shoot like a sixty
- 30:55Speaker 2: two or sixty three, very capable of that. So he
- 30:59Speaker 2: definitely stands out to me. You know, Xander, I think
- 31:02Speaker 2: is a little underpriced. I think Morikawa might have a
- 31:07Speaker 2: cheat not going to get squeezed a ton, but I
- 31:09Speaker 2: think he could come in maybe a little bit lower.
- 31:11Speaker 2: But it's gonna be marginal amounts because they're all going
- 31:13Speaker 2: to get some ownership. But you know that the thing
- 31:16Speaker 2: you said about like the spike rounds and JT scoring
- 31:19Speaker 2: definitely stands out in my head. I think I want
- 31:22Speaker 2: to make kind of make a plan on him this
- 31:23Speaker 2: week potentially.
- 31:25Speaker 1: Yeah, what's your thoughts on this too? I guess I'm
- 31:27Speaker 1: curious about this take because maybe I'm just I'll be
- 31:29Speaker 1: honest and vulnerable and think aloud on this stuff. It
- 31:31Speaker 1: could be an idiot, but I just think, like so,
- 31:32Speaker 1: Scotty last week was three to one, Okay, the field
- 31:36Speaker 1: was terrible versus this field, Like the strength of field
- 31:39Speaker 1: was nowhere near what we've got right in front of
- 31:40Speaker 1: us here we look at the top of this board. Okay,
- 31:43Speaker 1: argument would be, but he's playing against double the golfers.
- 31:46Speaker 1: But don't you just cross off, you know, eighty of
- 31:49Speaker 1: those golfers anyway, So like, I just don't ever see
- 31:52Speaker 1: a world where Rory at five to one is the way, Like,
- 31:55Speaker 1: you know, it just doesn't make sense. It's there's legitimate
- 31:59Speaker 1: top dudes right behind him. Scotty had. I had an
- 32:02Speaker 1: argument with Mao last week on the show because he's, oh,
- 32:04Speaker 1: disagree on this, and he's my buddy. I'm just saying
- 32:06Speaker 1: it was, like I said, you cannot disagree the field strength.
- 32:10Speaker 1: It's yes, it's hard to win a golf tournaments, et cetera,
- 32:13Speaker 1: but you could Scotty could win by ten because it's
- 32:16Speaker 1: just if he gets on, is way better than these guys.
- 32:19Speaker 1: I don't think Rory is way better.
- 32:21Speaker 2: Than To me, it's like you have to do. You
- 32:24Speaker 2: have to in your head, like, okay, last week before
- 32:26Speaker 2: the tournament starts, right, you look at that field and
- 32:31Speaker 2: pick out how many guys could you pick out from
- 32:33Speaker 2: that field and say, Okay, this guy has a chance
- 32:35Speaker 2: to win the tournament. You'd feel pretty confident saying if
- 32:38Speaker 2: there wasn't many, right, I mean, I mean you look
- 32:40Speaker 2: at that field and there's just a few that you
- 32:41Speaker 2: might say, right, this guy had a chance. Here. You
- 32:45Speaker 2: look at this field and you can definitely point to
- 32:47Speaker 2: some guys that could could win it, like anyone up
- 32:49Speaker 2: top and Mari Kyle Xander, J T. Ludwig, Kan'tle they
- 32:52Speaker 2: could win this event. There's other guys that I think
- 32:54Speaker 2: could could potentially win this event. So to me, in
- 32:57Speaker 2: my head, that's how I talk through the whole thing.
- 33:00Speaker 2: I don't know if it's right. I don't know if
- 33:02Speaker 2: it's wrong.
- 33:03Speaker 1: Yeah, that's funny, say that's exactly what I'm trying to think.
- 33:05Speaker 1: I don't know if this is right, But that's just
- 33:07Speaker 1: an automatic first thought that it doesn't make sense, and
- 33:10Speaker 1: it triggers some other things. And I'm not the golf
- 33:12Speaker 1: better out there, so I'm not gonna get into all that,
- 33:14Speaker 1: but I'm just like that sort of would and I
- 33:16Speaker 1: know no one's really betting him anyway. Probably I'm sure
- 33:17Speaker 1: there's some people that are throwing twenty bucks on him
- 33:19Speaker 1: and things maybe get some handle that way, But my
- 33:21Speaker 1: point being, I just wouldn't think of it as like
- 33:24Speaker 1: that would even make sense to me. So I don't know,
- 33:26Speaker 1: it just seems really odd to me, you know, like someone, yeah,
- 33:29Speaker 1: Scooter said even in the larger fields, because the field
- 33:31Speaker 1: was so weak, Scotty had massive wineck when he going
- 33:34Speaker 1: in versus it's just not the case. So that just
- 33:36Speaker 1: makes it interesting. I think there's something to be said.
- 33:38Speaker 1: There's still some really good lineups you can build this
- 33:40Speaker 1: week without Rory. I already mentioned my jtpiece and you
- 33:43Speaker 1: sort of latched onto it. I like that we're on
- 33:45Speaker 1: the same page there. I'm still fine with Morikawa regardless
- 33:49Speaker 1: of ownership, and then going I'll take it into the
- 33:51Speaker 1: nine K first because it's a smaller range, but I
- 33:53Speaker 1: would actually like the guys at the bottom more than tough,
- 33:56Speaker 1: so I'd like Ludvig, but then after that it would
- 33:58Speaker 1: actually probably be like Fleetwood and Speeth as guys that
- 34:02Speaker 1: can just sort of grind through it and maybe get
- 34:04Speaker 1: you that you know, five under round or sit you know,
- 34:07Speaker 1: something like that, that the strong round that I want
- 34:09Speaker 1: to see versus just fairways and greens and and that.
- 34:12Speaker 1: So I think like Fleetwood, Speath, those guys, maybe even
- 34:16Speaker 1: I don't know what's Hoblin been doing, Like I don't
- 34:19Speaker 1: want to play everybody.
- 34:20Speaker 2: It's been decent when he's been when he's played, he
- 34:22Speaker 2: hasn't played since Oh it's RBC heritage, I mean, but
- 34:27Speaker 2: like since then.
- 34:27Speaker 1: So yeah, so twenty first and thirteenth. Yeah, I don't know.
- 34:31Speaker 1: I don't have like a I'm not super high on
- 34:34Speaker 1: any of this, but I think because I'm building some
- 34:37Speaker 1: in sets and without Rory, I'm definitely gonna be keening
- 34:40Speaker 1: in on this lower nine K range and then Ludvig
- 34:42Speaker 1: up top.
- 34:42Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, Ludvig I do, like, I mean, the
- 34:47Speaker 2: one thing with him when he's on, like he's gonna
- 34:49Speaker 2: have a chance to win basically any event, and he's
- 34:51Speaker 2: a guy that can compete with those top end guys.
- 34:54Speaker 2: When he's on, he can compete with Rory and you
- 34:58Speaker 2: know Scotty, who's obviously not in this field, but he
- 35:00Speaker 2: can compete with those guys when his game is on,
- 35:02Speaker 2: and he can win events, and he doesn't get intimidated
- 35:05Speaker 2: when he gets up to the top of the leaderboard.
- 35:07Speaker 2: So it's a good call there. The other guy that
- 35:08Speaker 2: it's kind of a gut feel slash scoring thing is Speedf.
- 35:13Speaker 2: He's looked a little bit better no cutt event. You know,
- 35:15Speaker 2: he's chipping in at least a couple times, right, He's
- 35:17Speaker 2: gonna chip in for eagle or birdie or something at
- 35:21Speaker 2: some point, probably twice throughout this tournament. He just scores.
- 35:24Speaker 2: You know, he's good, good scoring, I think for no
- 35:26Speaker 2: cut event. So I kind of like speak this week,
- 35:29Speaker 2: and he've ben playing a little bit better. And I
- 35:30Speaker 2: am not a speF guy, so take that for what
- 35:33Speaker 2: it's worth.
- 35:33Speaker 1: Nice little run for him too. Fourth last week and
- 35:36Speaker 1: before that eighteenth, fourteenth, twelve, twenty eighth, we've talked about
- 35:40Speaker 1: how those like again last week, with the point was
- 35:42Speaker 1: those don't necessarily add up for the price. But exactly
- 35:45Speaker 1: what I said last week was those twelve fourteenth and eighteen.
- 35:47Speaker 1: That's one or two strokes from being all top tens.
- 35:50Speaker 1: And then people are like, oh, he's on a heater instead.
- 35:52Speaker 1: It was sortainly the opposite effect. But then he goes
- 35:54Speaker 1: out and has a pretty good week solid Sunday. Where's
- 35:57Speaker 1: our guy Ryan? By the way, in the chat EVR
- 35:59Speaker 1: man Rob, did you see he had four amazing rounds
- 36:03Speaker 1: and didn't even come close and got smoked by Scotty.
- 36:07Speaker 2: That's just crazy. It is funny though. It's like, now
- 36:09Speaker 2: anytime I see that dude's name, like Rinn is the
- 36:12Speaker 2: first person I think about.
- 36:16Speaker 1: I wonder too. I'm not like the big ratings guy
- 36:18Speaker 1: make fun of it for like TGL and stuff. But
- 36:20Speaker 1: that had to be the worst way is Scotty for
- 36:26Speaker 1: the game? Like said, he's not super you know, he's
- 36:29Speaker 1: the nicest guy in the world, and obviously he's like literally.
- 36:32Speaker 2: He's great for the game if he's playing against legitimate golfers.
- 36:34Speaker 2: And it goes to the same point. I mean, they've
- 36:37Speaker 2: screwed themselves on these signature events, like any non major,
- 36:41Speaker 2: non signature event is going to have the shitty field,
- 36:43Speaker 2: and I'd like them to my piece of advice. And
- 36:46Speaker 2: again I don't know how this would work, and you know,
- 36:48Speaker 2: obviously they have different situations, but what they need to
- 36:51Speaker 2: do is somehow guarantee that you're getting ten legitimate guys
- 36:57Speaker 2: and these non signature events, like maybe they do would
- 37:00Speaker 2: draft or something. You have to sign up for some
- 37:02Speaker 2: of these non signature events and playing them or incentivize
- 37:06Speaker 2: you know, the FedEx Cup points a little bit differently,
- 37:08Speaker 2: so there is some incentive for these dudes to play
- 37:11Speaker 2: in these non signature, non major events. If not, this
- 37:14Speaker 2: is what we're gonna deal with, a couple high end
- 37:17Speaker 2: guys playing against minor league players. Everyone in that field
- 37:19Speaker 2: was a minor league player last week, right, I mean
- 37:21Speaker 2: they're just not PGA two or caliber caliber players and
- 37:26Speaker 2: the ratings are gonna be terrible. So like if Scotty
- 37:28Speaker 2: was playing against good dudes, yeah, it's great for TV,
- 37:30Speaker 2: but he's not. He's playing against like, you know, club
- 37:33Speaker 2: pro sort of guys.
- 37:34Speaker 1: Also, I had this conversation last week with Mayo and
- 37:37Speaker 1: you just hinted that something that you know, you mentioned
- 37:39Speaker 1: something that kind of hints at what I was thinking.
- 37:40Speaker 1: Is I talked about MMA and maybe you and I
- 37:43Speaker 1: talked about it too, But it's like there's no main
- 37:44Speaker 1: event last week, Scotty's the champion that of the event,
- 37:48Speaker 1: if you would call it not from previous win. I'm
- 37:50Speaker 1: saying like he's just the guy you would consider that
- 37:52Speaker 1: would be in the main event. But where was his competitor?
- 37:54Speaker 2: He didn't have one.
- 37:55Speaker 1: You may only see a fighter once every year or
- 37:58Speaker 1: once every six months, but when they are in there,
- 38:01Speaker 1: they're Shimian. I know it's totally different. Don't come aat
- 38:04Speaker 1: me for that, just saying in general that is it's
- 38:07Speaker 1: what you said of you need to get five to
- 38:10Speaker 1: ten at every event. Crap, and you're playing what do
- 38:13Speaker 1: you want to go in the draft for? And then
- 38:15Speaker 1: when it gets down to like the nitty gritty at
- 38:16Speaker 1: the end, there's some a few guys that maybe don't
- 38:18Speaker 1: get necessarily what they want. But I just think it's
- 38:20Speaker 1: like it'd be a better way to do it. And
- 38:22Speaker 1: I saw this. I don't think he was wrong, and
- 38:25Speaker 1: I think the livbots are are completely lost on this too.
- 38:28Speaker 1: Like he said something about John Rahm is not Christiano
- 38:31Speaker 1: Ronaldo getting paid all that money? I think do you
- 38:33Speaker 1: think John Rohm doesn't know that? Why do you think
- 38:35Speaker 1: he signed he knows? No? One's worth that kind of money.
- 38:38Speaker 1: And he's like, if you everyone that talks shit about
- 38:40Speaker 1: the people that took money have never even seen one
- 38:43Speaker 1: hundred thousand, most likely on the table let alone a million,
- 38:47Speaker 1: five hundred million. You have no clue. Everyone like ninety
- 38:50Speaker 1: nine point nine nine nine percent or clicking sign where
- 38:53Speaker 1: how quick can I sign that?
- 38:55Speaker 2: The crazy thing is, it's like it's so polarized because
- 38:58Speaker 2: the numbers are so big, right, But you could go
- 39:01Speaker 2: to anybody at any sort of job in any industry
- 39:05Speaker 2: and present them with a live type of offer. Obviously
- 39:07Speaker 2: the numbers are going to be much smaller, right, I
- 39:10Speaker 2: would say almost everybody would take it. If you're making
- 39:14Speaker 2: one hundred thousand dollars a year and someone shows up
- 39:16Speaker 2: tomorrow and says, I'm going to hand you three hundred
- 39:20Speaker 2: thousand dollars to come take your talents over here, you're
- 39:24Speaker 2: taking your talents over there three times as much. Whatever
- 39:26Speaker 2: the multiplier may be a lot, ninety some percent of
- 39:29Speaker 2: people are taking the damn money. And that's the right
- 39:33Speaker 2: moves and it's the proper move, So can't fault anyone.
- 39:37Speaker 1: I agree, ak Range. We looked at it on there
- 39:39Speaker 1: a little bit. You got Hideki down to the Jason
- 39:43Speaker 1: Dawd of course, but Bobby Mack is right there at
- 39:45Speaker 1: AK as well. So like Bobby Mack, Minwu Keegan mav
- 39:49Speaker 1: my guy Sung Jay is in there, Lowry Berger's strack
- 39:52Speaker 1: of Connor's Decky. What are we doing with this ring?
- 39:54Speaker 2: Yeah, so ownership is showing that all these guys are
- 39:57Speaker 2: between like seven and thirteen. I think it's probably lower
- 40:02Speaker 2: for a lot of these guys, Like a Kentucky I
- 40:05Speaker 2: don't think is getting to thirteen, So I think he's
- 40:07Speaker 2: coming in low lower. The only two that I think
- 40:10Speaker 2: gets substantial not substantial. I think people are gonna be
- 40:14Speaker 2: fine playing Sup. I think people are gonna be fine
- 40:16Speaker 2: playing Burger and maybe Lowry. I think everyone else has
- 40:18Speaker 2: a chance to come in relatively low just because of
- 40:22Speaker 2: the roster construction stuff. You're gonna want to you know,
- 40:24Speaker 2: people are gonna want to play the guys up top.
- 40:26Speaker 2: If you're playing multiple guys up top, you're just not
- 40:28Speaker 2: gonna get here all that often. I don't like Masiyama,
- 40:32Speaker 2: to be honest with you, He's the one guy I'm
- 40:34Speaker 2: fine just being off of this week. I mean, it's
- 40:35Speaker 2: hard to make cuts, you know, guys that you don't
- 40:39Speaker 2: want your playerpool, but I'd be fine being away from him.
- 40:42Speaker 2: I always played little Corey Connors like Burger. I mean,
- 40:45Speaker 2: Berger's been playing really well. He's probably my favorite here.
- 40:48Speaker 2: And then you know, kind of coming down mav a
- 40:52Speaker 2: little bit of interest in. You know, Min Wu really
- 40:55Speaker 2: hasn't been playing great, Kegan Bradley and just not a
- 40:58Speaker 2: not an exciting round, and they're just to me so
- 41:01Speaker 2: much more win equity up top, and you start coming
- 41:04Speaker 2: down to this lower eight, it's like, I don't know,
- 41:06Speaker 2: like I just don't see a ton of difference between
- 41:08Speaker 2: these dudes and then some of the guys in the
- 41:09Speaker 2: lower seven. So it probably won't be a priority for me.
- 41:12Speaker 2: But again, we talked about it when we went through
- 41:15Speaker 2: these teams. If you like a lot of these guys,
- 41:18Speaker 2: you do a mid tier build, you're going to be
- 41:20Speaker 2: way different. Do I think it's the optimal route this week.
- 41:23Speaker 2: Absolutely not. But it's going to be different, that's for sure.
- 41:26Speaker 1: And you don't have to go all in. That's what
- 41:28Speaker 1: even the Saber score showed. It's like Berger was in
- 41:30Speaker 1: our best Saber score lineup, but he's only six percent
- 41:33Speaker 1: or eight percent overall. To our exposure on one to fifty.
- 41:35Speaker 1: They're saying, here's a version of this, and that's what
- 41:38Speaker 1: I think people get confused to. For sure, let's say
- 41:40Speaker 1: Burger is the most popular him more sep are likely
- 41:42Speaker 1: to be the most popular in this range, fair enough,
- 41:45Speaker 1: but when that happens, people just immediately go, well, I
- 41:47Speaker 1: got a pivot or I can't play them. It's like, no,
- 41:49Speaker 1: how many people are running a j T Ludwig Burger
- 41:53Speaker 1: lineup and that plays just fine. You could have to
- 41:55Speaker 1: Ludwig could win, JT could score like crazy, and Burger
- 41:58Speaker 1: could out do a bunch of the guys above and
- 41:59Speaker 1: below him, and you're still fitting in the three value
- 42:01Speaker 1: plays at the bottom. So it's just a prime example
- 42:04Speaker 1: that people don't really spend a lot of time on that.
- 42:06Speaker 1: You can see how it's different still, but how it
- 42:09Speaker 1: can work not who you play, it's how you play him.
- 42:11Speaker 1: That That's definitely the one that I would key to there.
- 42:13Speaker 1: I think the other guys you mentioned, like Connors, maybe
- 42:15Speaker 1: the slower greens for once, just once, come on, find
- 42:18Speaker 1: that Putter because he hits the fairways, he hits the greens.
- 42:22Speaker 1: It's Kenny Dilan, a putter ever, but if you give
- 42:24Speaker 1: him four full rounds, let's get a couple in there
- 42:27Speaker 1: that he finds the putter and the other two you
- 42:28Speaker 1: know he won't. Maybe it's one of one of four,
- 42:30Speaker 1: but the other, you know, two of the other three
- 42:32Speaker 1: are okay, let's say not going away from my guys,
- 42:35Speaker 1: Sung Jay, he's still scoring, he's still finding it. Like
- 42:38Speaker 1: it's it's a bias for sure, but it just I
- 42:40Speaker 1: love it in a no cut specifically Fairways, Greens makes
- 42:43Speaker 1: some putts sometimes that's a challenge for him. But if
- 42:46Speaker 1: he does, he's in the mix, and then not too
- 42:49Speaker 1: much that I love after that, Maybe I don't know,
- 42:53Speaker 1: maybe maybe Keegan, maybe Keegan, there's got to be something there,
- 42:57Speaker 1: Like the East Coast. I know it's Philadelphia, it's not
- 43:00Speaker 1: you know, massive mass choose it's but it's like it's
- 43:02Speaker 1: it's close enough to is his home everywhere? What do
- 43:05Speaker 1: they say anytime he plays on the East Coast, there's
- 43:07Speaker 1: like a home hometown event. It doesn't matter. He just
- 43:09Speaker 1: gets fired up for it. So maybe maybe we see
- 43:11Speaker 1: a little something at a Kegan there, but kind of
- 43:13Speaker 1: like him at eighty one hundred as well. We'll see
- 43:15Speaker 1: what happens, but not too much in that eight K
- 43:17Speaker 1: range for me either.
- 43:18Speaker 2: Who yeah, uh, seven K range obviously a little bit
- 43:23Speaker 2: bigger of a range. You know. Sam Burns and Wyndham
- 43:26Speaker 2: Clark at the top are names, but obviously not having
- 43:29Speaker 2: the greatest seasons. If I was gonna choose one, I'd
- 43:33Speaker 2: probably side Windham. You know, I typically play Windham. Oh
- 43:36Speaker 2: I you know, I like wind them a little bit
- 43:38Speaker 2: more straight up than Burns. So if decided between one
- 43:41Speaker 2: of those two, I think Novak has a chance to
- 43:43Speaker 2: get some steam here. I mean, play won the team event,
- 43:46Speaker 2: It's had some good finishes outside of that, you know,
- 43:49Speaker 2: Rye Thompson, I don't know. I'm not thrilled with the
- 43:52Speaker 2: names up here. I mean, honestly, come down, and I
- 43:54Speaker 2: don't see much of a difference again between like these
- 43:57Speaker 2: upper tier guys in the lower seven K guys. Tony
- 44:01Speaker 2: fen out seven to four, you know, stands out as wow,
- 44:04Speaker 2: that guy used to last year in this event. He's
- 44:07Speaker 2: probably nine K. Now he's seventy four because he's played
- 44:09Speaker 2: like absolute dog shit. And you know, if this is,
- 44:12Speaker 2: of course where we don't need to be super long,
- 44:15Speaker 2: like I don't know, Ben Griffin, I think is fine.
- 44:20Speaker 2: I always like myself some post in Taylor Pendrith. I
- 44:23Speaker 2: obviously always play Michael Kim. I've been playing out so
- 44:26Speaker 2: I like the lower sevens much more than the upper sevens.
- 44:28Speaker 2: Even Okha at seventy one hundred. I prefer over some
- 44:31Speaker 2: of these guys up top. So just you know, some
- 44:34Speaker 2: of my favorites are are for sure down here, Griffin, Pendrith,
- 44:38Speaker 2: ok Shay, and Michael Kim at seven K flat or
- 44:42Speaker 2: probably my four or five favorite guys in the seven
- 44:44Speaker 2: K ridge.
- 44:45Speaker 1: Yeah, well see how the ownership actually comes in. But
- 44:47Speaker 1: I'm gonna take on some of the volatility, Like you
- 44:49Speaker 1: talked about it with Akshay miss cut forty second, forty second,
- 44:52Speaker 1: miss cut don't care because guess what when he had
- 44:55Speaker 1: good finishes the three events before that, they were third, ninth,
- 44:59Speaker 1: and ninth. It's a no cut. Like I get two
- 45:01Speaker 1: good auction rounds of that kind of price tag, I'm interested.
- 45:04Speaker 1: So it's not really that much about who I like
- 45:06Speaker 1: down here. I just think to say it, it's gonna
- 45:08Speaker 1: be spread out a little bit more. There's already some
- 45:10Speaker 1: stuff up on the site. Lee Aldric. His value report
- 45:12Speaker 1: is free every week, so you guys go check it out.
- 45:15Speaker 1: I'll spoiler a couple. It's got Justin Rose in there,
- 45:18Speaker 1: which may surprise some, but he makes sense. And then
- 45:21Speaker 1: there's a couple others in there as well too, So
- 45:22Speaker 1: go check it out. It's free shipping nation dot com.
- 45:25Speaker 1: Go under PGA and click value report. You can see
- 45:27Speaker 1: that for free. It's a good little starter piece with
- 45:30Speaker 1: six guys in there, with some good breakdowns on how
- 45:32Speaker 1: he picked them and got to them. But scoring wise,
- 45:35Speaker 1: you mentioned like Burns and Clark up top. The other
- 45:37Speaker 1: thing I'll say about Novak is what did we get
- 45:39Speaker 1: on exposure to Novak? Go there for a second, and
- 45:42Speaker 1: let's try and look real quick, because we're not gonna
- 45:44Speaker 1: spend too much more time in saber. Probably what do
- 45:46Speaker 1: we got on Novack for? And when you change it
- 45:50Speaker 1: back to projected score is it? And again I could
- 45:53Speaker 1: have just probably saw it and looked from experience, but
- 45:55Speaker 1: I'm just more curious.
- 45:56Speaker 2: This is fast, nothing.
- 45:58Speaker 1: Nothing, So it's not surprised you because you think again
- 46:03Speaker 1: this type of event. He fits almost every build. He's
- 46:05Speaker 1: under the average. The team win thrown out the window.
- 46:08Speaker 1: We shouldn't, but you can. But second before that in
- 46:12Speaker 1: a signature third before that, like he's been playing great
- 46:15Speaker 1: goal well, just.
- 46:16Speaker 2: All the projection and he's not projected any I guess
- 46:19Speaker 2: he's projected actually a little bit lower than everyone around him.
- 46:21Speaker 2: And these are projections. Are projections could look a little
- 46:26Speaker 2: bit different if I went and changed this to what
- 46:29Speaker 2: is a sixty four point five? If I changed it
- 46:31Speaker 2: to sixty six and re ran the teams, we'd get
- 46:34Speaker 2: a lot more, uh Novak. It's simply the fact that
- 46:38Speaker 2: you know, the projection doesn't stand out here. It's not
- 46:41Speaker 2: like he's shown one percent ownership. So like the Saber
- 46:44Speaker 2: lineups are going to want to push him in, Like
- 46:45Speaker 2: if we considered by Saber square, there's nothing that stands
- 46:48Speaker 2: out here to really force him into our lineup. So
- 46:51Speaker 2: this is a situation. If you do like Novak and
- 46:53Speaker 2: you are using this set of projections and ownership, you're
- 46:56Speaker 2: just gonna have to use the MI in max and say,
- 46:58Speaker 2: you know what I want at least ten percent ANKI Novak,
- 47:02Speaker 2: it'd apply. Now he's in ten percent of your lineups.
- 47:05Speaker 2: But again, our projections and ownership could look different, and
- 47:08Speaker 2: there they are going to look different. It's just a
- 47:10Speaker 2: matter of how much.
- 47:11Speaker 1: Yeah, and then I want like for me, I just
- 47:13Speaker 1: think about that sometimes where a lot of people be like, well,
- 47:15Speaker 1: he can't do it again, and so I'm not even
- 47:16Speaker 1: gonna bother but he'll get some ownership. But I'm not
- 47:19Speaker 1: saying that. It's more just like to your point there,
- 47:20Speaker 1: and what I'm seeing is a lot more people are
- 47:22Speaker 1: going to play the others around him. This would fit
- 47:24Speaker 1: with what we talked about earlier with Andrew, where we're
- 47:26Speaker 1: saying like, if something stands out to you, it's literally
- 47:29Speaker 1: like you mentioned, it's two points of projection and the
- 47:32Speaker 1: whole atmosphere changes for your lineup. So I think that
- 47:35Speaker 1: I'm always looking at stuff like that. It does look
- 47:37Speaker 1: like Pendrith Michael Kim Guys like that will be a
- 47:41Speaker 1: bit more popular, but you know, interesting things like a
- 47:45Speaker 1: couple of so so Keith Mitchell got into this late.
- 47:48Speaker 1: He's been playing some better golf lately. I'm not sure
- 47:50Speaker 1: people don't seem to like that guy, even though he's
- 47:52Speaker 1: another guy that sort of fits the mold of like
- 47:54Speaker 1: the Novak stuff where he's played well, he could score well.
- 47:57Speaker 1: I have no problem with him. I think ry Rose
- 48:00Speaker 1: even harmon Harmon doesn't have the distance, but hits fairways
- 48:04Speaker 1: can make birdies. I think someone like him could could
- 48:06Speaker 1: pop in there, and then JT posting at the bottom.
- 48:10Speaker 1: I already talked about, ok, Shay, that's just a few
- 48:12Speaker 1: of the guys that obviously you know, the Pendrus and
- 48:14Speaker 1: the Kims stand out, but I would take shots on
- 48:17Speaker 1: those guys and it would be a segue going into
- 48:19Speaker 1: the upper six K range, just talking about that volatility,
- 48:22Speaker 1: you know, Thigala sixty nine hundred. I really don't care
- 48:26Speaker 1: anything about what he's done for anybody lately because guess what,
- 48:30Speaker 1: it's a totally new event at hand, So just little
- 48:33Speaker 1: things like that, I don't know, if you see something different,
- 48:36Speaker 1: he's he's been okay anyway, the team event doesn't Again,
- 48:39Speaker 1: I don't necessarily throw it out, but even if you
- 48:41Speaker 1: didn't want to count it, the twenty ninth, before that,
- 48:43Speaker 1: the thirty six. Recently, like he's still in the mix.
- 48:46Speaker 1: Sixty nine hundred sort of baked in, so I kind
- 48:48Speaker 1: of like that pricing for a guy like him. My
- 48:50Speaker 1: guy Steven Yager is down there, Lucas Glover. Sometimes we're
- 48:53Speaker 1: talking hitting fairways and the capability of making birdies. I mean,
- 48:57Speaker 1: Ryan Girard has been making birdies lately. We see him.
- 49:00Speaker 1: Thorbe is down there. I think he's good thor and
- 49:04Speaker 1: then Evr is a guy that may pick up steam
- 49:06Speaker 1: after last week, but he's There's still like Bridgeman and
- 49:09Speaker 1: high Smith down there as well. So there's a few
- 49:11Speaker 1: guys who you could play in this range.
- 49:13Speaker 2: Yeah. He was talking about the Galla, I mean, cheaper
- 49:16Speaker 2: than we've ever seen him. Obviously hasn't been playing well
- 49:20Speaker 2: with sixty nine hundred. I'll take a chance like for sure,
- 49:23Speaker 2: and he's you talk about guys that get those spike
- 49:25Speaker 2: rounds of sixty two or sixty three. That's like that's
- 49:28Speaker 2: the Galla to a t. So yeah, definitely it on him.
- 49:31Speaker 2: Yeager score. I'm going for guys that I think can
- 49:34Speaker 2: score down here. Grazerman, I do like it at sixty six.
- 49:38Speaker 2: I think he stands out. You mentioned Gerard. You know
- 49:42Speaker 2: Adam Scott has not been great sixty five hundred. Yeah,
- 49:45Speaker 2: you know, Bridgeman interested in a little bit, Ricky Fowler
- 49:50Speaker 2: some some interest there, high Smith potentially, you know, depending
- 49:54Speaker 2: on what you're doing, how many teams you're you're you're building,
- 49:56Speaker 2: like if you are going to Jim Rorio, so you're
- 49:58Speaker 2: gonna play him seventy percent, and you still want exposure
- 50:01Speaker 2: to the Morikawa's and the Xanders and the JT's and
- 50:05Speaker 2: the Ludwigs. You just got to get comfortable down here
- 50:07Speaker 2: and take some chances. There's gonna be a couple of
- 50:10Speaker 2: these guys at least that that that score that score
- 50:14Speaker 2: well well enough to know potentially be on the optional.
- 50:17Speaker 2: So I'm good with just about anything down here. I
- 50:20Speaker 2: rattled off some of some of my favorites, but there's
- 50:24Speaker 2: not many guys where I say, are I'm definitely just
- 50:26Speaker 2: not playing this guy because he's in the six K range.
- 50:29Speaker 2: So open to a lot down here.
- 50:30Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's like you said, it's all how you
- 50:32Speaker 1: build it. It's all what you're going after and what
- 50:34Speaker 1: you're putting into your lineups. But I definitely think that's
- 50:36Speaker 1: what it would be. I was surprised. I just got
- 50:38Speaker 1: the ratings came in actually just after we talked about
- 50:43Speaker 1: it there, so that's funny. It says Scotty's dominating win
- 50:48Speaker 1: was up sixty six percent. So I went up to
- 50:51Speaker 1: two point nine million viewers from one point seventy five
- 50:54Speaker 1: last year. For Taylor Pendrith and then up from day
- 50:57Speaker 1: the year before at two point three to two million.
- 51:00Speaker 1: So interesting that they still got the viewers there for that.
- 51:04Speaker 1: But I just think it's like, man, Scotty's a name
- 51:07Speaker 1: for sure, he's literally the best right now. And obviously
- 51:09Speaker 1: Rory and you can debate it, but Scotty's just been
- 51:11Speaker 1: on a tear forever. But it was like, I don't
- 51:13Speaker 1: know how you could be into that with just to
- 51:14Speaker 1: blowout everyone's going on. It was just a tough scene.
- 51:17Speaker 1: I wasn't super thrilled about it.
- 51:19Speaker 2: But yeah, it's not exciting stuff, that's for sure.
- 51:23Speaker 1: And like this type of thing, I mean, you can
- 51:25Speaker 1: change this back. That's fine, go ahead, just like you
- 51:29Speaker 1: can get tools for that if you have, you know,
- 51:32Speaker 1: all the different tools sites out that you can check
- 51:33Speaker 1: out for golf stats and find it. But it's just
- 51:35Speaker 1: gonna be too small of a sample. You're not going
- 51:38Speaker 1: to be able to use that really to your advantage.
- 51:40Speaker 1: It would just be a product of if it happened,
- 51:42Speaker 1: then great, but it's way more very like the volatility
- 51:45Speaker 1: on that stuff is so huge. It's more of you know,
- 51:47Speaker 1: set in your pool, having your process and realistically that's
- 51:50Speaker 1: a nice thing about Sabersim is what we've talked about
- 51:52Speaker 1: a bunch and just to bring it up again, but
- 51:54Speaker 1: if you don't want to make the decision to decide
- 51:58Speaker 1: between a Sepstraca and Burger beca as of quote unquote
- 52:00Speaker 1: ownership or too high or whatever it is that you think,
- 52:03Speaker 1: you can just leave them in your pool with Sabersim
- 52:06Speaker 1: and let it do the work for you, right, let
- 52:08Speaker 1: it go through and break it all down to show
- 52:10Speaker 1: you what's what and grind it from there. So there's
- 52:13Speaker 1: a you'll let you'll start seeing how you can play
- 52:15Speaker 1: those options without having to completely move off them just
- 52:19Speaker 1: because someone told you they're a chalk play or something
- 52:21Speaker 1: like that. Back to the theme of the show that
- 52:23Speaker 1: we've been talking about the entire time.
- 52:24Speaker 2: So, yeah, it was a nice week though when you
- 52:26Speaker 2: look at it, I mean, really, Rory's going to be
- 52:29Speaker 2: very popular and it seems relatively spread out, to be
- 52:33Speaker 2: honest with you, Like there's not much after him that's like,
- 52:36Speaker 2: oh man, this guy's going to be super high home,
- 52:38Speaker 2: which pretty rare i'd say for a signature event with
- 52:41Speaker 2: only seventy two golfers in it, Like there's just no
- 52:43Speaker 2: one else has showing up as massively owned, and there
- 52:46Speaker 2: are guys that will get steam and more popular throughout
- 52:48Speaker 2: the week, but I'd say pretty unique overall, where like
- 52:53Speaker 2: it should be should be spread out.
- 52:55Speaker 1: Yeah, Oliver said, public loves a front runner. That's that's
- 53:00Speaker 1: definitely a popubl possible.
- 53:01Speaker 2: True. Yeah, they like dominants too. I mean, I mean
- 53:04Speaker 2: people love these, you know, the runs, these teams, dominant teams,
- 53:09Speaker 2: dominant players, like the public does does like that. So
- 53:11Speaker 2: that is that is that's a good point. I mean, yeah,
- 53:14Speaker 2: Tiger was beating a bunch of minor league dudes back
- 53:16Speaker 2: in the day, and the writings were probably the best
- 53:18Speaker 2: golf was ever at when Tiger was on his run.
- 53:22Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, splash segment. You got it up there. Now,
- 53:25Speaker 1: this thing fills slowly, but I know last week it
- 53:28Speaker 1: still got to I think four ninety nine or something
- 53:30Speaker 1: in that run, so there was a little bit of
- 53:33Speaker 1: there's a little less than philled. But it's guaranteed. That's
- 53:36Speaker 1: a nice thing about this. It's five thousand dollars totally guaranteed.
- 53:39Speaker 1: Extremely low rake. It's like nine or ten percent for
- 53:42Speaker 1: the rake. It's very easy to play if you got
- 53:44Speaker 1: it up there hoop and you could just go through it.
- 53:46Speaker 2: But the breakdown it's nice and flat. I mean seven
- 53:50Speaker 2: fifty six twenty five, five hundred and three seventy five,
- 53:53Speaker 2: two fifty. So it's not like one of those contests
- 53:55Speaker 2: where you know you finished tenth and you get like nothing,
- 53:57Speaker 2: like you still you finished tenth. Here you are, you know,
- 54:01Speaker 2: fifteen xing your money, which is still nice, you know,
- 54:05Speaker 2: so a.
- 54:06Speaker 1: Smaller field too. There's some casuals that come over from
- 54:10Speaker 1: the pools and stuff like that, which I think is big.
- 54:12Speaker 1: Obviously pools are just taking off right now, so I
- 54:15Speaker 1: love that. And then I'm just trying to look because
- 54:17Speaker 1: what was it seven fifty then six something and then
- 54:21Speaker 1: what is.
- 54:23Speaker 2: Six twenty five, five hundred and three seventy five two
- 54:26Speaker 2: fifty uh one fifty seventy five to fifty two. I
- 54:29Speaker 2: mean it's such a solid payout, like such a solid
- 54:33Speaker 2: payout structure. That's the worst when you enter a contest
- 54:37Speaker 2: and uh, you finish in the top ten and you
- 54:40Speaker 2: feel like you're not getting it, Like the difference between
- 54:42Speaker 2: first and in tenth in some contests are just absolutely
- 54:47Speaker 2: in saying this is you don't feel so bad about tenth.
- 54:49Speaker 2: There's still fifteen xing your money.
- 54:51Speaker 1: This is what's crazy. I'm bringing this up. Like obviously
- 54:53Speaker 1: we love DraftKings. We do everything on both sites, like
- 54:55Speaker 1: it's what it's all about. But just to note for
- 54:57Speaker 1: somebody to add this to their repertoires ten bucks. If
- 55:00Speaker 1: you play the twelve dollars single entry on DraftKings and
- 55:03Speaker 1: it is one of those you know, thirty K prize
- 55:06Speaker 1: pools three K to first three hundred and tenth, it's
- 55:09Speaker 1: the nicest structure that you can really find out there.
- 55:11Speaker 1: So I'm not saying not to play it. Maybe it's both.
- 55:13Speaker 1: I'm just saying third place in that twenty nine hundred
- 55:17Speaker 1: person tournament is seven to fifty.
- 55:19Speaker 2: Yeah, that's crazy.
- 55:21Speaker 1: That is nuts, man, Like that's yeah, that's the that's
- 55:25Speaker 1: the nice thing about it. So that that like whatever
- 55:28Speaker 1: that was, I think it was a twelfth place or
- 55:30Speaker 1: something in this tournament pays, as you know, pays a
- 55:32Speaker 1: lot more so just in general when you're comparing things
- 55:35Speaker 1: across sites, I think that's something to look at, and
- 55:37Speaker 1: it is really easy to play.
- 55:39Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, just going through the tiers, you know,
- 55:42Speaker 2: looking at tier one obviously, same is Undraftkings, Rory is
- 55:46Speaker 2: going to be very popular and Tier one over here,
- 55:49Speaker 2: Rory's going to be very popular. I think, you know,
- 55:51Speaker 2: people will click JT, people will click Morikawa, people will
- 55:55Speaker 2: click Xander maybe can't lay. But outside of that, I
- 55:58Speaker 2: mean very low loaned if you want them like.
- 56:02Speaker 1: To.
- 56:02Speaker 2: So it's just so easy, so easy just to click it.
- 56:06Speaker 2: You know, Henley probably unclicked here, Fleetwood unclicked, Deck Connors, uh,
- 56:13Speaker 2: Shane Lowry. But again, if you do click those names,
- 56:15Speaker 2: I gotta beat some big boys. We talked about j T. Like,
- 56:17Speaker 2: we both like j T. So let's let's click his
- 56:20Speaker 2: name here into tier two. Straka Ludwig Burger Hovelin McCarthy. Geez,
- 56:29Speaker 2: McCarthy's in here. No one's gonna want that one. Bradley
- 56:31Speaker 2: McNeely definitely don't click Jason Day, but at least they
- 56:34Speaker 2: show you here.
- 56:35Speaker 1: W D. Yeah, that's nice.
- 56:37Speaker 2: Yeah, Ludwig will be popular here. I mean, now, I
- 56:40Speaker 2: don't know why, you know, he's not in tier one
- 56:42Speaker 2: like all the other dudes are over in Tier one.
- 56:44Speaker 2: He's not in tier one. He'll be very popular here.
- 56:49Speaker 2: I'm just trying to find a name that we both
- 56:50Speaker 2: you know, for the sake of the show and uh
- 56:53Speaker 2: you know, sake of our relationship, I'm gonna I'm gonna
- 56:55Speaker 2: go ahead and click some for us.
- 56:57Speaker 1: In tier two. But I will say the interesting thing,
- 56:59Speaker 1: and you don't have to go back just to note
- 57:00Speaker 1: it is that's another way, hoop that you can spread
- 57:03Speaker 1: your exposure out. If you didn't like Straka and Burger,
- 57:05Speaker 1: you weren't getting much in your player pool. We know
- 57:08Speaker 1: Ludwig is gonna be super popular here. He just stands
- 57:10Speaker 1: out like a sore thumb because he's not in tier one. Obviously,
- 57:13Speaker 1: if you know PGA and you like Sung Jay like me,
- 57:16Speaker 1: you just click Sung Jay and move on. But I
- 57:18Speaker 1: think if you want to spread your exposure out on
- 57:20Speaker 1: a Straka or Burger, that could be the place to
- 57:22Speaker 1: get it as well.
- 57:23Speaker 2: Yep, I agree with you. Tier three some other names here.
- 57:28Speaker 2: We talked about Novak playing well Burns. Just looking at this,
- 57:33Speaker 2: I'd imagine pretty spread out right. I don't see anything
- 57:36Speaker 2: that stands out is like, all right, this is going
- 57:38Speaker 2: to be the guy.
- 57:40Speaker 1: By the way too. How easy the game is to play,
- 57:42Speaker 1: the more you can apply the game three piece to
- 57:44Speaker 1: it as well, And that's why it's multi entry and
- 57:46Speaker 1: you can put more in if you know. Tier three
- 57:49Speaker 1: is the place to spread it out. That's where it's
- 57:51Speaker 1: going to be spread out. That's where you could take
- 57:52Speaker 1: stands or you can make your own moves. But remember
- 57:55Speaker 1: you get to drop a golfer as well. So I'd
- 57:58Speaker 1: be taking like a se wou or an auction, or
- 58:00Speaker 1: I take something here that's high risk, like just give
- 58:03Speaker 1: it to me and see what happens. If they are
- 58:04Speaker 1: the good round, way less people are going to have them.
- 58:07Speaker 1: But if they're the bad round, we could just end
- 58:09Speaker 1: up dropping a golfer. So I would take risk in
- 58:10Speaker 1: a spot.
- 58:11Speaker 2: I like, I like the ax Shade call here here
- 58:15Speaker 2: at four. Okay, so Speith is going to be very popular.
- 58:18Speaker 2: I mean he's in this tier. I mean he arguably
- 58:21Speaker 2: could be in tier one. You know, definitely at least
- 58:23Speaker 2: tier two. He's in four, and you know his odds
- 58:28Speaker 2: to win the event compared to these other guys, it's
- 58:30Speaker 2: going to look drastically different. So anything outside of him
- 58:35Speaker 2: should be low. Wish owned Benny I we didn't talk
- 58:38Speaker 2: about him actually when we're going through the DK stuff,
- 58:41Speaker 2: I actually don't mind him here at all. I don't
- 58:44Speaker 2: even know what is his prices on drafting three.
- 58:47Speaker 1: On drafting the double look as well, because it's like interesting,
- 58:50Speaker 1: we didn't even bring him.
- 58:51Speaker 2: Up, but yeah, we didn't bring him up. I like him.
- 58:53Speaker 2: We talked about Keith Mitchell a little bit, Tony f
- 58:56Speaker 2: now Ben Griff and I like a lot of guys
- 58:59Speaker 2: I like here, So I speak, is gonna be popular,
- 59:01Speaker 2: but I'm fine like not playing the popular guy here
- 59:04Speaker 2: and going a little different.
- 59:06Speaker 1: If you've got Rory Ludwig and then clicking speed here
- 59:09Speaker 1: like yeah, you're already the same as everybody. We're different
- 59:12Speaker 1: if we wanted to go, and we could, but I'm
- 59:13Speaker 1: fine going to somebody else. And you mentioned Ben On,
- 59:16Speaker 1: I'd be fine any and move on.
- 59:18Speaker 2: Yep. Tier five Jager Rose English grazing him in Hogy Gerard.
- 59:23Speaker 2: So these are more like the six k guys on
- 59:25Speaker 2: DraftKings that that we talked about Saheath as well. Should
- 59:29Speaker 2: be spread out. I don't think there's anything that is
- 59:32Speaker 2: super obvious here. You know, names that haven't been golfing,
- 59:36Speaker 2: Wall jel touris, Adam Scott, but should be a spread
- 59:41Speaker 2: out range.
- 59:43Speaker 1: I know you like, yeah, get right for our boy,
- 59:45Speaker 1: Lee let's go Jay Rose for our boy Lee. We
- 59:48Speaker 1: got him in this week, let's give him a shot.
- 59:51Speaker 2: And then you get to tier six and it's all
- 59:53Speaker 2: the leftovers clearly, you know. Let's see, is there a
- 59:56Speaker 2: name here that you know looks to be out of place? Now,
- 1:00:00Speaker 2: imagine just another range where super super speight out because
- 1:00:03Speaker 2: you have way way more options to choose from EVR.
- 1:00:10Speaker 2: I didn't realize he goes in the field. Wow, okay,
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: it must be way down on.
- 1:00:14Speaker 1: The That's one thing too. How much is higgo this week?
- 1:00:20Speaker 2: That'll be cheap over there? Six? Pick my boy, picking
- 1:00:25Speaker 2: my boy, Kirky. I love Kirky, So Kirky that's what
- 1:00:30Speaker 2: we got.
- 1:00:30Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean for Higo stole the win at
- 1:00:34Speaker 1: the Corrals.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: The Yes, that's right.
- 1:00:36Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a sixty one hundred down there on DraftKings too.
- 1:00:40Speaker 1: But yeah, I like the Kirky call. And that's like,
- 1:00:42Speaker 1: look at this, like I feel pretty good about Thomas
- 1:00:45Speaker 1: m and Rose and then want to Botsier Kirkos to
- 1:00:49Speaker 1: come through, and you got a different build. You don't
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: have all the chalk with the other guys, with Rory
- 1:00:53Speaker 1: and Ludwig and Spieth, where it all just makes perfect sense,
- 1:00:56Speaker 1: and you still got a chance to get there.
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- 1:01:12Speaker 2: it's probably easier on the app even on the than
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- 1:01:19Speaker 2: up and then we can get these prize pools even bigger.
- 1:01:22Speaker 1: That's the goal, and I like to the nice thing
- 1:01:24Speaker 1: because you can put multi entry in is like loading
- 1:01:26Speaker 1: another one, not right now, but just in general. And
- 1:01:28Speaker 1: if you like now you know sort of what the
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- 1:01:33Speaker 1: people overthink it and those plays are just priced wrong,
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