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S4 45. Michael Lanza – Next Gen Faith, preparing for Marriage · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere.
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  It's against these principalities in these rulers
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  in, these are cons in the high places.
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  It's really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself, fear is one
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  of the primary drivers of mind control because We have to take
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  every thought captive and resist.
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  Your going to have a testimony that is a Justice case against
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  the kingdom of darkness. Welcome back to the show.
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  I got an awesome episode in store for you guys.
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  This is ease of edification, I got microns in here, he is a
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  media production guy. He works with a company in New
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  York City, but you lives in Reading PA, we actually did this
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  interview in person at Grace Church, right?
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  Outside of the city of reading. It was an awesome interview.
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  He's a younger guy, he's got a degree.
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  Ian law, he studied criminal justice and you just really has
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  a heart to serve the Lord and get the community involved.
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  It's a really cool conversation about a half an hour long, it's
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  edifying and for as young as Mike is surprisingly, he's got a
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  lot of wisdom of really wanted to honor him just by having them
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  on the show. And just saying, man, I see the
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  younger generation, I see you guys.
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  God sees you guys, you're important.
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  You have valium at with all that being said, That I am ready to
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  jump into this episode. Are you guys ready for some ease
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  of edification? Hey y'all, this is Michael Lanza
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  with the millennial, Mustard Seed, pod cast.
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  He's a edification and that was a dope intro.
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  Mike, it's a pleasure to have you here with me.
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  You're doing some really great things that I would like to some
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  highlight it. And that's why we're here man
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  just kind of chopping it up and encouraging each other.
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  Tell us a little bit about yourself what you're doing right
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  now and kind of how God has directed you into the positions
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  of roles that you're currently. Yeah not for having me for more
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  context on the production director here at Grace Church,
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  in chilling. PA.
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  I have a interesting way of how God's kind of led me to the
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  positions. I'm in graduate high school,
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  went to college for criminal justice kind of like halfway
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  through criminal justice. I had some media production
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  classes that I was taking ended up falling in love with it took
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  the classes and did what I had to do to basically have my
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  digital media marketing major and digital Communications minor
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  assumed the role production director here.
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  At the church. I handle all social media and
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  production elements on a Sunday morning and then and then I do
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  freelance for a production company out of New York.
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  So yeah, that's where I'm at right now.
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  And yeah, I'm excited to kind of see how God leads leads me in
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  the future. I think it's so cool.
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  How we start with this direction we want to go and it morphs over
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  time. The spirit of the Lord leads,
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  those who are the sons of God. He Rex our steps, right?
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  You're representing a generation of younger people and your story
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  and voice needs to be heard. So what you're doing at Grace
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  Church? Why don't you give us?
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  A quick rundown of what the Young Adult Ministry groups look
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  like and like some of the, like, the venue's you guys have been
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  putting together. I know we have listeners in the
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  reading area and I'm really hoping that somebody will get
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  connected through this episode and be a part of all the future
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  things that you guys have going on.
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  Yeah. Yeah, I guess I shoulda
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  mentioned. Also here, I volunteer, as a
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  young adult leader, we run, what we call Grace groups here at the
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  church and it's just a time for a group of people to get
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  together meet once a week. Usually were discussing and the
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  message from a Sunday, that's kind of how it started to kind
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  of morphed into, you know, its own Ministry, where we kind of
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  dive into more deeper deeper topics deeper conversations.
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  A lot of times will bring up a topic that that, you know, we've
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  done. We bring Is to to kind of
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  highlight different things in people's lives and then
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  ultimately open up the floor for people to discuss and kind of
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  give, you know, their background in a certain area or topic and
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  its really opened up to be a, it's a safe space that people
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  feel comfortable to to kind of share in.
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  We currently meet every other Sunday.
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  Sunday nights from 6:00 to 7:30 gear at the church.
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  And yeah we try to host different serve opportunities.
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  We were actually down Down to Opportunity House, a couple
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  weeks ago, serving lunch. And we'll be down there again,
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  at the end of February to serve lunch again for the residents
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  there. Yeah, so we're trying to get
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  plugged into the community, doing more serving opportunities
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  being the hands and feet as we are called to be, we have
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  different events. We try to do a little bit of
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  fundraising events because you know, some things do cost to
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  supply needs for people. We actually had a car show here
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  back in October and we have plans to do more More
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  fundraisers to kind of give back into the community.
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  We're just trying to, you know, be active in.
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  You know, what's going on here at the church?
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  You know, separately with what goes on in the community and
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  just trying to be able to be a resource to not only, you know,
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  people from the outside but be a resource that people are
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  actually within the group and and just creating a safe space
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  for people to be able to share what they're going through.
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  What God's doing in their lives. Yeah.
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  And and what we're finding is like, the more that you allow
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  open floor people. A lot of times feel that Comfort
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  ability to share more about what who ends up going on in the
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  lives and things that people struggle with or things that
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  people are succeeding at and you know, if it's different things
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  like that. As a young man here in Reading
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  Pennsylvania you have this desire to get people connected
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  in the community and when we're called to share the gospel like
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  we're called to go out, but we're also called to make
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  disciples. A lot of people want to see like
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  the entertainment on YouTube where it's like all they want to
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  see a demon cast out or they want to watch all this content
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  on YouTube about Nephilim or whatever.
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  I mean there's all that weird stuff.
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  There's a time and place for that.
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  It's very important that we actually Understand the threads
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  that are in the Bible because God wants us to know those
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  things. But if we are missing the hands
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  and feet aspect of it, We can have knowledge wisdom, we can
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  have Mysteries unfolded. We can speak really well, but if
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  we don't have love, it's all worthless.
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  So for anybody who listens, if you guys are a part of a Young
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  Adult Ministry or attending a church thinking about attending
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  the church, be the hands and feet, wherever you get plugged
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  in, and if you've got a natural gift and calling to stir
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  something up, they get a small group together or just spend
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  time with people, just organically investing with no
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  ulterior motive, Aman. That's where you're going to
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  see. You're positioning yourself for
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  God to move. So Mike, not a lot of people are
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  actually getting married who are younger today when dr.
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  Larry Sanger was on, just a few months ago we covered marriage
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  from a Biblical perspective of one into some areas that I was
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  blown away by what she brought to the table.
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  So talk a little bit about your engaged right now and that's
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  exciting. Yeah, you fall in love and you
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  want to pursue this Godly relationship to just talk a
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  little bit about that. We have mine.
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  My fiancé and I are getting married in early March, so come
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  and more real. Yeah, we met in college and
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  that's where I feel like God's just been leading me.
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  And like a lot of a lot of different people we've discussed
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  about like, oh well like why aren't you using your degree or
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  like, why, you know, why do you feel like you don't have like a
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  full plan yet or we're just kind of going with the flow?
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  I feel like God's like you know, took took me on this journey.
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  Yeah. And you know I am where I am is
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  because I've been so kind of open to what path he's leading
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  me on. But yeah, we met in college in
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  the criminal justice department we were both criminal justice
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  Majors. My position with dating was to
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  not waste anybody's time and so me and her had like a three-hour
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  conversation on the first date kind of going through all of our
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  non-negotiables. Where we were in life, kind of
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  our background and it was, it was pretty funny because she
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  grew up Catholic. And, you know, her family
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  upbringing was, was only, you know, along along those lines.
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  And I get, you know, I was at that point, I was working
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  part-time, my role here at the church, looked a little bit
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  differently, but I was still pretty active serving on a
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  Sunday morning. So I had her come to a Sunday
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  service and, you know, with her Catholic background, it it
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  looked a lot different for her, but yeah, she definitely
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  definitely felt. You know, the pool from God.
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  I would say that first time she lived in Florida in Florida at
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  the time. So we had a three-month period.
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  Where we were with see each other much when she came back
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  over the fall. She played soccer for the school
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  and then we had a transition. With a co-pastor coming on,
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  actually pass. It Rodney, who was was here for
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  2020 and 2021 and not me by the way, you guys know.
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  And and I think that whole transition she really got
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  plugged in here at the church and really started to grow, I
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  saw a lot of growth with with her and and I I've walked with,
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  with God, for a good chunk of my life.
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  I've been raised in the church. Church, I've had definitely ups
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  and downs, and and I feel like my biggest growth was growing
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  with her with, with, with our relationship.
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  So yeah, my my voice definitely is, you know, a lot of people
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  talk about equally yoked and you know, being equally yoked is so
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  important. I mean, you guys people, I feel
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  like can as long as God is in your Forefront, even if both of
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  you aren't the quote-unquote Christians, You feel like you're
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  supposed to be or you're not where you're supposed to be yet
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  growing together to get there. I feel like is so much so
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  important as individuals because, yeah, I feel like I
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  definitely was not my best self meeting her, but have grown.
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  A heck of a lot in my spiritual walk with with putting her first
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  and learning, the different Avenues of.
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  You know what dating look like. What engagement life look like,
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  what marriage life is going to look like.
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  And then it's like, you know, just the realism of life in
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  general and like, just a difficulties that come, you
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  know, with living life and then mixing that into into the
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  marriage realm is, is, is very important.
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  So, so, yeah. I yeah, I would just encourage
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  anybody who's, you know, In a similar situation to make sure
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  God is in the Forefront, cuz I feel like we've grown together,
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  but I feel like if we would have pieced together, the things
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  quicker, we would be even even more even more, you know, on
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  fire than we already are. And I've been, I feel like we're
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  we're definitely pushing for for what God has for us being used
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  here at the church being used in the community, you know?
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  Yeah. I mean, even the young adults
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  Ministry. I'm one of my biggest things
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  that I was praying for a while is finding Godly Community
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  inside my own age group. And that was something that that
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  God. I feel like is provided through
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  Grace Church in this Young Adult Ministry that we've kind of,
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  kind of Taken and started and, you know, and getting off the
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  mindset of quantity and pour more into quality and that was
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  and that's something that as the young adult.
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  Street. We've really been purposing to
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  do and we've and I feel like we've grown individually a whole
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  lot and we have open open Realms of communication safe spaces for
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  people to kind of just talk about things that they struggle
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  with the, you know, our daily lives.
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  It's like it's real, it's there. It's like we have, you know,
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  this world is heavily demonic and, you know, evil is prevalent
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  and You know, but you know evils only going to continue if you
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  don't shed the light in it. So it's like you have you have
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  you have all these, you know, different people that are like
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  all. Let's just let's just huddle
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  here and cluster and just talk that's not what we're called to
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  do with call to go out into the world and be the hands.
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  And feet will also be the light and be the thing.
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  It doesn't have to necessarily be where, you know, you're
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  shoving, Jesus down people's throats, being the light.
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  I feel like is enough to To show people that you're different and
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  showing people that you're different.
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  Doesn't mean they they might come to Jesus right then and
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  there A lot of times it does but you know, people have choices in
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  life and I feel when we and I feel like when we stop getting
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  hung up on, Oh, you know, the our mission is to share the
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  word, but it's up to others to receive it.
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  So today, I got home to little tangent there.
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  But you said being equal, yolks that really jumped form you
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  because a lot of the times people want to just get marriage
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  because they feel he's going to answer all the bad dating
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  history of their life. Right.
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  It is like dating a my opinion. I didn't know any.
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  This does I got saved like nine years ago and it's been a long A
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  rough process. But when I was dating, when I
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  was younger, I was really just practicing separation.
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  Yeah, you know, it was like, you just get into this mindset was
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  like, how well I don't like this about this individual, six
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  months into it and so on to the next, right?
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  And that was the this worldly mentality.
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  So really taking a serious approach and being like, hey I
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  want to be equally yoked and do we have the same things in mind
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  as huge amount of opinion? And then what stored up in our
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  hearts is going to flow out of our mouths?
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  I like what we talked about whether we're like on the mic
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  off the mic, just in our conversations like It's going to
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  words. What is in our heart is going to
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  flow? Like, when I was younger, I used
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  to have a lot of conversations that are nothing.
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  Like they are now as a man. No, but I was a boy about like a
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  boy, as a man. I'm thinking, like a man.
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  So here and was flown out of your heart is important to me
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  and some other key things demonstrating.
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  Being the hands and feet. Like, we're not looking to fill
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  the church today or tomorrow when this episode airs, there
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  may be somebody who hears this episode who lives in West
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  Reading or in Douglasville, Pottstown Philadelphia, any of
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  these small, you know, local cities all around the country
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  and they may hear this and in 10 months they may just wake up and
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  be like yo, I'm gonna go up to that church today because
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  something Mike said or Rodney said stuck with me and I just
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  couldn't let it go because it was different than what I was
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  hearing at work. Work.
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  It was different than what I was hearing in the world.
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  It was different than what I was hearing when I went to shoot
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  pool with guys after work and chase tail and none of that
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  brings any completion in my life.
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  We don't always know the ripple effect and that's why this is
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  important, and then you said, Jesus sends us out.
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  Yeah, he sends us out two at a time.
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  You think about a man, and a woman.
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  We leave our parents. We leave our mother, and our
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  father. We cling to our wife.
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  So, we're in marriage, you're already, you're one, but you're
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  too. So when Jesus sent the disciples
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  out, he was like, yo, I'm sending y'all out of two at a
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  time. So like, you never really walk
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  alone and I think that that's like, most man's desire.
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  Like most men were like, First off, we want to be respected,
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  but we want to be loved and seen and recognized.
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  And God gives a wife. And this is talked about.
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  I think his style Solomon says, it may be.
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  No, David says it, huh? One of them.
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  Are you guys know? I'm not good with remembering
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  exactly the name of the book and the person who said it.
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  But I remember the meat of it. He says I found the one who my
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  heart loves. There's a difference between a
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  woman of the world and a wife from the Lord, and he who finds
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  a wife from the Lord finds favor with God, but all of us are in
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  progress. So if anybody is struggling
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  through your marriage right now, you're thinking about getting
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  married, but you're scared because of what you seen your
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  sister go through your cousin. Maybe you've been through,
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  you've been divorced and heartbroken seeking God.
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  First seeking his kingdom will add on to us everything that we
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  need. To do time.
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  I just I'm Blown Away by you know, meeting just getting
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  connected with people all around the world at this point but now
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  locally that was a huge part of like when I met in first talk
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  with you Mike because I was going through a season where I
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  was really lonely, like, I'm podcast, I'm getting hammered,
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  and ways that I don't normally talk about just rejected in
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  certain ways, but I knew God was just tugging me, keep going,
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  don't give up. And when our first conversation
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  we had over the phone, some of the things that we talked about
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  and then just learn in, like, where you were at, what you were
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  doing and where your heart was, that was a wave of encouragement
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  for me. So, everything, you're sharing
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  here today, I know. Resonates with me, personally.
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  I'm edified by hearing you speak.
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  So, let's kind of like, wind down here a little bit.
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  Do you want to tell people where they can find you and just
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  anything that, you know, close this out?
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  What do you think is relevant for the younger generation?
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  The millennial generation older generation to hear, what would
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  be your advice to the body of Christ?
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  Yes, but, I mean, especially for the younger generation, I feel
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  like we are You know, we have this mindset that we're in the
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  shadow of the older generation and especially in a church
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  setting. I feel like you know, we we have
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  a lot to offer the church but I feel like necessarily we feel
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  like oh I can't or I'm not and even as a church you know, the
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  church body as a whole. I mean if there's a you know you
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  I'm sure you have listeners that are, you know, above the young
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  adult a you know, really pouring into the Young Adult Ministry
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  and the Next Generation even student age high school
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  students. It's like all and especially
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  working. I also as a student leader and I
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  see these kids who have potential in their life, but
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  they struggle with the just garbage that's in high schools
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  nowadays. And I feel like, you know, in
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  Our Generations were called to Shepherd, the generation below
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  us. And we know.
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  So I would say, the biggest thing is, if you're in the young
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  adult age and your Or, you know, a struggling.
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  Because for me, it was a struggle for finding Christian
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  Community. It's like I had friends but I
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  wouldn't hang out with them a lot because of the activities,
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  they would get themselves into or the things that they like and
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  enjoy that. I don't enjoy because of being
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  partaking of the world. And so, my biggest prayer for a
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  while was that God show me Christian Community and show me
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  friends that I can put trust into and share you know my life
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  with and you know he's done that.
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  It. He's done that through me,
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  answering a call that he had me, if that makes sense.
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  So like he called Pete, he was like all right.
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  You know, there's people within the church that are here for you
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  but you guys haven't been on that relational aspect yet
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  because there's nothing here to be relational about.
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  So then you know, when we started the group, it started it
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  was rough in the beginning because it's like we've there
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  was a lot of young adults have been coming to this church for a
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  while. But, you know, and this This is
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  what I feel like sometimes happens in the church.
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  It's like come to church on a Sunday.
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  We know there's other people in our age groups that exist but we
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  don't get connected with them. We're not growing spiritually
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  with one another. So when we started the group it
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  was hard to kind of mold what that look like.
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  Because there were so many people that are in this group
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  that, we know each other, but don't know, each other.
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  And then, as time kind of kind of felt, you know, progress, we
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  were like, you know, this group Program, like, you can call it a
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  program, but like the order of like, how this group is
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  operating was in substantial for what we needed as young adults.
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  And then that's when we kind of, you know, dropped off into our
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  own Ministry and kind of pushed into, you know, deeper
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  conversation topics that are specific to us and how they
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  relate to us in the times that we go through.
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  So yeah, I would say, God definitely opened up a whole
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  world. Wind when I saw it to get
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  connected and build something that didn't didn't one point
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  exist. Yeah, so yeah, yeah, definitely.
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  Just, you know, if you're in the, you know, reading Berks
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  County area, were we meet every other Sunday?
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  You can find our website at my grace, church.com young adults,
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  and we have a whole calendar there with the different events
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  in our meeting times and stuff like that.
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  We're we're kind of like what we're in.
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  We did a book study with crazy Faith by Michael Todd, which was
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  a really a really cool, really eye-opening book.
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  And yeah, and we love to just bring different perspectives to
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  the table. It's like, you know, I feel like
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  there isn't, you know there's you know, one God, one father,
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  son, Holy Spirit. Like you other than that there's
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  so many ways of interpreting kind of what God's Speaks to
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  different different people and, you know, different people's
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  experiences have different impacts on people's lives.
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  So and we definitely definitely opened up those realms for for
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  this group and Ministry that we're in.
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  So see if you're in the it's ages, 18 to 30 and we're just
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  looking to connect with one another and continue to grow the
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  relationships. That seems like the world
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  already has the world. Aren't the world are He has
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  these deep connections with one another and people and on and
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  it's funny because it's like we see it.
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  It's like people are willing to put themselves in Risk danger
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  for other people. It can be even with like you
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  know, alcohol drugs sex money. It's like everybody's willing to
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  put themselves in positions that they, you know, it's not, you
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  know that where they're at having to step, you know, stick
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  their neck out for somebody just to get connected.
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  Just feel like they're a part of something.
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  Yeah, there's a better way. So much better ways.
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  And it's like, sometimes it doesn't.
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  And I feel like as a church, we sometimes do a disservice to
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  people because it's like we we are called to be that bridge for
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  one another. And if we're not being that
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  bridge for people, then where are they going to go to get
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  communities? Are going to go to the world
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  because as human beings, we Thrive off of community, God
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  calls us in the Bible to be in community with one.
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  Another grow each other up, sharpen each other, and it's
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  like, if we're not doing that in the church then Are we going to
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  do that at? And and that doesn't even mean
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  the church physical building. Yeah, it's like within the
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  dresslink we are called to be the church.
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  Some people get that Twisted to it's like you know the church
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  building even though yes. Like this is a space that we
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  come we worship. We hear message connect with one
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  another. We are the church.
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  We are what's more important is connecting with people loving
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  one another and as like and The other thing I would also
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  encourage the listeners is to really walk in love.
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  I've had different experiences in my life where love is hard to
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  do sometimes and you know I feel like as God has shifted and is
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  continuing to soften and change my heart.
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  Love just comes out for people that like man, like it was hard
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  to love this person or that person, but I feel like that
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  God's opened up a whole new realm of insight for me.
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  And it kind of Of how how my life supposed to supposed to
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  impact the world. It's been an honor to have you
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  here on the show man, and I love seeing how God is getting this.
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  This Broadband message to men, women all across our country is
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  one time. Yeah, thanks well that's it.
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  That's the show Christianity is not a club.
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  We walk this thing out by faith. It's a lifestyle coming to you
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  from Southeastern Pennsylvania. God Bless America.
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  Goodbye.