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Episode #3850 The New Phil Hendrie Show Radio Archive Hour · The World of Phil Hendrie

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Speaker 1: we take a dive into the radio archives of the
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Speaker 1: Phil Henry Show. You know, for sixteen years, seventeen years,
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Speaker 1: eighteen years, we did a very unique talk show across America.
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Speaker 1: We did a show whereby I played the I played
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Speaker 1: and it made for some pretty funny moments, and we
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Speaker 1: And this is one from the month of June two
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Speaker 1: thousand and two. I believe Robert Green, before he was
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Speaker 1: owner the owner of Fraser Food, was a CEO at
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Speaker 1: some company that'd run into the ground. And it was
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Speaker 1: during a World com And I don't know why I'm laughing,
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Speaker 1: but he was threatening to blow his brains out all
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Speaker 1: over some kind of a degaue painting that he had
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Speaker 1: that would devalue it if he did. In other words,
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Speaker 1: don't feel sorry for the workers, feel sorry for him
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Speaker 1: because he was rich. Let's listen to this.
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Speaker 3: This is the Phil Henry Show. I get a little
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Speaker 3: bit of a laugh.
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Speaker 1: Go to the WORLDCLM website and take a look at
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Speaker 1: the press release that they have hosted on their website
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Speaker 1: for today. And one of the I shouldn't say a laugh,
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Speaker 1: because I'm sure that the man feels this way. The
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Speaker 1: CEO of the company is a guy named James Sigemore.
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Speaker 1: He took the job in late April two thousand and two,
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Speaker 1: so a lot like Robert Neeler. I don't know whether
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Speaker 1: you can hang this on him because he's sort of
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Speaker 1: late to the game. The quote is, I want to
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Speaker 1: assure our customers and employees that the company remains viable
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Speaker 1: and committed to a long term future. This in the
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Speaker 1: face of reports that it's sliding into bankruptcy, that there
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Speaker 1: will be charges against the company for fraud that SEC
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Speaker 1: has I believe the SEC has petitioned the court to
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Speaker 1: ensure that no documents get destroyed. I mean, this is
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Speaker 1: a company that isn't in any shape at all or
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Speaker 1: any position to say anything about its future.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't seem we're going to bring on right now.
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Speaker 1: Robert Green, he's the former CEO of a company called
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Speaker 1: Nexus Internet Industrial, I should say, And they went through
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Speaker 1: much the same thing back in the late nineteen eighties,
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Speaker 1: and that was a problem with books. I know that
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Speaker 1: your company filed that chapter eleven. Mister Green, your comptroller
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Speaker 1: was arrested, Your CFO was arrested.
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Speaker 3: Basically, they unplugged the shredders.
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Speaker 1: And mister Green has written a rather interesting book called
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Speaker 1: you Can't Take It with You Tales from the other
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Speaker 1: side of Corporate America. We have them on the show
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Speaker 1: to sort of shed some light, if you'll part, and
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Speaker 1: the expression shed mister green.
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Speaker 2: Well, I can tell you that that's a word that's
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Speaker 2: going to be popped to get it out of people's
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Speaker 2: minds a lot.
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Speaker 1: But just to shed some light on the nightmare that
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Speaker 1: is the current scandals on Wall Street.
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Speaker 2: Well, Phil, as of today, four billion dollar row Comm
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Speaker 2: scandal is erupted, and we need to restore faith. Obviously,
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Speaker 2: the American Investor and seventeen thousand people are going to
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Speaker 2: be out of work on Fridays, that's right.
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Speaker 1: I understand that one of the cost cutting measures is
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Speaker 1: to take seventeen thousand people in general just put them
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Speaker 1: on the street this coming Friday.
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Speaker 2: Right, But I want to go through this a little
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Speaker 2: bit with you. I know what they did. They inflated
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Speaker 2: their profits. They lied about the money they were making.
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Speaker 2: We did the same thing in the late nineteen eighties.
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Speaker 2: It was aheady time in the late nineteen eighties. But
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Speaker 2: let me just let me just turn this around a
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Speaker 2: little bit for you and for your listeners. It's a
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Speaker 2: funny thing about life. You get a wife that wants more,
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Speaker 2: you have children that want more. You know I was
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Speaker 2: in that position.
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Speaker 3: Well, you knew that your company would over reporting profits.
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Speaker 2: Correct late in the game, I did know that, right you, and.
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Speaker 1: You knew that your company was essentially cheating stockholders. You
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Speaker 1: yourself fired. I'm looking at the press release that you
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Speaker 1: let thirty five hundred employees go in March of nineteen
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Speaker 1: eighty nine.
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Speaker 3: Isn't that right?
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Speaker 2: What I did was wrong, and I'm sorry to have
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Speaker 2: what happened to those workers. But I want you to
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Speaker 2: picture something, and you can hear the phone that I'm
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Speaker 2: on right now. This is a cordless phone that I
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Speaker 2: picked up at a I don't know where it was,
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Speaker 2: a circuit city. It is a It's not the kind
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Speaker 2: of telephone that a Robert Green would have used five, six, seven,
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Speaker 2: ten years ago. It's not the kind of telephone that
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Speaker 2: I had in my offices. Today I find myself.
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Speaker 3: With very little, and that is a bad telephone.
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Speaker 2: Well, I'm gonna paint a picture for you. I came
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Speaker 2: out of Indiana State with an MBA and I desire
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Speaker 2: to improve myself. I started Nexus International. At one time
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Speaker 2: we had a United States government contract. I met a
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Speaker 2: woman of my wife. I met her in Atlantic City.
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Speaker 2: She was working one of the buffets there at a hotel.
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Speaker 2: She was in a couple of shows and I would
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Speaker 2: say this with great respect. She was put together.
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Speaker 3: You were attracted to her.
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Speaker 2: I was attracted to her. I married her, We had
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Speaker 2: three kids, we made more money. And here's what happens.
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Speaker 2: And this is what happens to the guys at World Common.
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Speaker 2: This is probably what happened to the guys at n Run.
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Speaker 2: Suddenly now she wants more. A Mercedes isn't enough because
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Speaker 2: there's a guy at the office for the rolls. A
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Speaker 2: four carrot ring isn't enough because she wants a five
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Speaker 2: or six carrot. The kids want, they want to go
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Speaker 2: to a private school, you see.
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Speaker 1: And so mister Green, if I got to interrupt you, okay,
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Speaker 1: and can I call you Robert, call me Bobb if
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Speaker 1: you'd like.
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Speaker 3: All right, Bob, this is all about your life.
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Speaker 1: I want to get into the particulars of the manipulation of.
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Speaker 3: Books, the cooking of books.
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Speaker 2: No, but I'm telling you this is really the heart
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Speaker 2: and soul of what happened at World Common. You get
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Speaker 2: kids that want to go to a private school. You've
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Speaker 2: got a five thousand square foot home. Now it's got
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Speaker 2: to be man. Now it's got to be fourteen. You
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Speaker 2: got a summer home, you got an apartment, in New York.
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Speaker 2: And you get to the point where you pull yourself
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Speaker 2: through your door at night and you want to put
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Speaker 2: your fingers in your ear because here she goes again.
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Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying it And in.
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Speaker 1: Other words, she's making demands. The family's making demands.
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Speaker 2: That is correct. Hi today, Phil, in the year two
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Speaker 2: thousand and two, I've got health problems. I have a
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Speaker 2: duogonal ulcer. I've got psiatica which hurts. Like I said,
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Speaker 2: of a bit. If you'll pardon my language, ask my
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Speaker 2: wife if she cares. No, she doesn't care. She cares
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Speaker 2: if a pool, if the pool house is built. So
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Speaker 2: while you want to crucify the guys.
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Speaker 3: At the top, well wait a minute.
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Speaker 1: We're talking about World Colm with Robert Green, a former
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Speaker 1: CEO of a company that went through similar problems.
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Speaker 3: Your company is gone, now right, I've got nothing.
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Speaker 2: Now my company has gone. I'm on a book tour.
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Speaker 2: I got a wife, and again I still got the
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Speaker 2: same wife and she still wants more.
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Speaker 1: Are you you telling me that World Time, that Enron,
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Speaker 1: that Adelphia, the Tycho, that all of these companies went
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Speaker 1: belly up because they're CEOs that had wives and kids
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Speaker 1: that wanted more.
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Speaker 2: I am saying to you something that I'm hoping your
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Speaker 2: listeners can appreciate.
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Speaker 1: What about the seventeen thousand guys that are on the
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Speaker 1: street this coming Friday? What about the thirty five hundred
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Speaker 1: people that you put on the street in nineteen eighty
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Speaker 1: nine till that is.
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Speaker 2: Typical of the American public. They always want to look
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Speaker 2: at the workers, the line workers. These are good people,
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Speaker 2: But the fact is they're a little bit like gypsies,
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Speaker 2: don't They don't have any all right?
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Speaker 3: Well, see now that to me is an insult.
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Speaker 1: What is to call these seventeen thousand people will be
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Speaker 1: on the street on Friday because of some guy cooking
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Speaker 1: the books because you're telling me that his wife wanted
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Speaker 1: a bigger diamond ring.
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Speaker 2: When I reluctantly let thirty five hundred people go back
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Speaker 2: in nineteen eighty nine, I found out that these people
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Speaker 2: could go across the street and get another job. Do
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Speaker 2: you think any of them want to have a cup
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Speaker 2: of coffee with me? Now? Do you think that there's loyalty?
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Speaker 3: Now you fired them?
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Speaker 2: No? But I had no choice. I had a business.
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Speaker 2: There was no longer mine. It was an animal. I
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Speaker 2: was trying to control. It isn't me. It was Tom Perika,
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Speaker 2: who was our business manager. It was Mary and Compton,
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Speaker 2: who is our internal accomptant. They had their hands in
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Speaker 2: my pockets and.
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Speaker 3: Correct me if I am wrong.
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Speaker 1: You seem to be putting the focus on the pain
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Speaker 1: that's being felt by the guys at the top.
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Speaker 2: Look, once the hive is like bees. Once the hive
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Speaker 2: is finished on a tree, the bees go onto the
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Speaker 2: next without turning back. What happens to me? What happens
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Speaker 2: to the guys at n run. I'm gonna tell you
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Speaker 2: a little story, philm No.
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Speaker 3: But but you're putting the focus on the pain that
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Speaker 3: because there.
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Speaker 2: Is real pain at the top. Because the guy who
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Speaker 2: gets fired on Friday, that line worker, that assembly guy,
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Speaker 2: he goes over to at and g he's gonna go
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Speaker 2: over the verizon, he's gonna go over to pack bell.
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Speaker 2: He'll do what he has to do. What happens to me?
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you what happened to me the day
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Speaker 2: I got the word that this man and I just
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Speaker 2: the guy's name makes me one of vomit. This guy Sullivan,
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Speaker 2: who was cooking our books. I went into my office,
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Speaker 2: I closed the door, I took a bottle of brandy
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Speaker 2: out of the desk. I poured myself a drink, and
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Speaker 2: I pulled out of a leather valise that I had
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Speaker 2: in a in a filing cabinet behind me. And I
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Speaker 2: pulled out of that leather valise a Ruger red hot.
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Speaker 2: That's a four point fifty four.
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Speaker 3: That's a firearm.
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Speaker 2: That's a gun, Yes, sir, it is. I put the
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Speaker 2: gun on my desk. I called my wife, and of
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Speaker 2: course the first thing I'm hearing from her is, I'll
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Speaker 2: never forget it. Did you change the reservations from Mexico
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Speaker 2: and all of this? And I just tided the phone
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Speaker 2: up on her, and I thought about putting the barrel
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Speaker 2: of that to my head. And I'll tell you one
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Speaker 2: of the things you want to hear a funny story.
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Speaker 2: I've got a GOP print in my office that was
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Speaker 2: right behind my desk, And as crazy as this sound,
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Speaker 2: I thought, if I blow my brains out, half of
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Speaker 2: them are going to go all over a print that's
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Speaker 2: worth about eight thousand dollars. And I said, no, I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to do it. I'm not giving her the satisfaction,
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Speaker 2: and I'm not giving those kids the satisfaction. So I
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Speaker 2: pressed on, and I don't doubt that that's going on
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Speaker 2: at WORLDCLM right now. You've got a lot of guys
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Speaker 2: and a lot of offices, and nobody hears them. We
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Speaker 2: no one hears the screams coming from those offices, the
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Speaker 2: screams of agony, and nobody rushes into those offices to
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Speaker 2: make sure that they don't have a luger, a ruger,
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Speaker 2: a block, a nine milimeter, a red Hawk, anything sitting
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Speaker 2: on that desk waiting for them to pull the trigger
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Speaker 2: and send their brains right out onto the street.
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Speaker 1: Now for me, all right, I don't want to interrupt you,
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Speaker 1: but you're telling me that is the siren.
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Speaker 2: Pain that goes on in these CEOs lives at an
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Speaker 2: epidemic level. And you want me to sit here and
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Speaker 2: start feeling bad about sixteen thousand guys are going to
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Speaker 2: hit the bricks and go across the street the Verizon
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Speaker 2: on Monday. I'm sorry, I can't do that.
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Speaker 1: So, in other words, what's happened at WorldCom the real
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Speaker 1: tragedy is the CEOs that are you.
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Speaker 2: Got you've got a controller and you've got a CFO
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Speaker 2: that are on the street. Those guys are probably going
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Speaker 2: to be the jail cell if they don't pick up
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Speaker 2: an anything a small caliber.
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Speaker 3: All right, Well, let's forget about whether they're going to
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Speaker 3: blow their brains out.
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Speaker 2: But it's a high possibility.
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Speaker 3: All right.
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Robert Green, who is telling us a
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Speaker 1: story of how he contemplated suicide the day he found
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Speaker 1: out that the books at his company had been cooked.
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Speaker 1: And we are, of course talking about WORLDCLM. But you
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Speaker 1: keep going back to the to the to the four CEOs.
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Speaker 1: But the workers, the guys are going to be on
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Speaker 1: the street.
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Speaker 2: There you go again.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, but we.
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Speaker 2: Well you're doing it again. You're going back to these
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Speaker 2: seventeen thousand guys. What about them?
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Speaker 3: Seventeen thousand people will be on the street.
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Speaker 2: I'm well, I almost put what's left by brains all
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Speaker 2: over at eight thousand dollars to god, You understand what
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Speaker 2: I'm saying. I shot myself, all right.
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Speaker 1: Robert Green, former CEO of a company that went belly
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Speaker 1: up back in the eighties because of cooking the books.
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you know what happened at WorldCom.
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Speaker 1: Today, but they have reported that they cooked up about
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Speaker 1: four billion dollars worth of profits that just simply don't exist.
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Speaker 1: They actually actually lost money last year and in the
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Speaker 1: first quarter of this year, they're in deep, deep trouble.
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Speaker 1: The people that I care about are the seventeen thousand
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Speaker 1: men and women that will be hitting the bricks on
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Speaker 1: Friday as a result of quote cost cutting to help
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Speaker 1: save the company. But I'm hearing mister Green here talking
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Speaker 1: about him putting his brains on a print he bought
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Speaker 1: in Spain with his wife. Phil Henry Show, Phil Henry Shall,
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Speaker 1: Robert Green with me whose company went through much? What
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Speaker 1: Werem's going through? You gotta do you have a distaste
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Speaker 1: for workers?
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Speaker 2: No? I do, not, mystery dream. Please don't characterize it
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Speaker 2: that way.
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Speaker 1: Well, we're talking about seventeen thousand guys that might hit
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Speaker 1: the bricks on Friday, and you're talking about the time
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Speaker 1: you almost blew your brains out.
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Speaker 2: You know something, I happen to be an individual who
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Speaker 2: creates jobs. I'm a guy who goes and creates a business.
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Speaker 2: And then I got people hanging all over me wanting work.
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Speaker 2: They want to get promotions, they want this, and they
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Speaker 2: want that. And then some guy cooks the books on me,
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Speaker 2: and I'm alone in the office with my red Hawk
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Speaker 2: four fifty four. Did anybody come in and try to
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Speaker 2: take the gun away from me? No, that's what I'm saying.
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Speaker 2: That's what's going on at WorldCom right now. The CEO
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Speaker 2: of that company.
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Speaker 3: Whatever his name, John sigmart mister Sigmore.
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Speaker 2: Let me tell you something. They fight him tomorrow morning
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Speaker 2: with a barrel of a magnum in his mouth and
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Speaker 2: the back of his head missing. What are you gonna take? Then?
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna think that the guy went through some pretty
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Speaker 1: tough times, and I'm gonna think that the man was
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Speaker 1: a victim of circumstance. So I'm going to think it
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Speaker 1: was a tragedy. But I'm also going to be mindful
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Speaker 1: of the many, many of us. Uh Oh, come on, no, no, no,
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Speaker 1: I'm going to be mindful of the many, many of
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Speaker 1: us who still have to work and press on and
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Speaker 1: help this country grow.
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Speaker 2: That's not a lot of storybooks stuff, No, sir, I
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Speaker 2: don't think it is.
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Speaker 3: Here's art, go ahead, art.
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Speaker 2: Uh yeah. Basically, you know, the seventeen thousand folks getting
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Speaker 2: laid off, they're not getting golden parachutes, a couple million
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Speaker 2: dollars and pops to make the transitional little golden para.
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Speaker 2: The guy's been arrested. What do you think, golden? Now, hey, guys,
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Speaker 2: you can't do the time, don't do the crime. That's
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Speaker 2: basically the times of that. That may be true, but see,
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Speaker 2: I didn't do any crime. And I'm sitting here and
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Speaker 2: the companies thanks. If you can't manage your ship, then
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Speaker 2: you know you get it paid for all right? Well,
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Speaker 2: and if it just so happens that we've got to
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Speaker 2: put seventeen thousand guys on the street, tough luck for them. Hey,
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Speaker 2: yeah again, Yeah, they got that. Kids Now they don't
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Speaker 2: have to be one million dollars to go. And you know,
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Speaker 2: once you go well worried about in a job, it's
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Speaker 2: too bad.
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Speaker 3: Man, it is too bad.
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Speaker 2: That's too bad. Where do you work?
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Speaker 3: What do you mean it's too bad?
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Speaker 2: Well, he doesn't show any sympathy for me. I should
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Speaker 2: I I almost blew the back of my head all
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Speaker 2: over an eight thousand dollars print.
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Speaker 3: Yeah of a diga from Spain.
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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, And you don't feel no sympathy for me?
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Speaker 2: Not relieve. These seventeen thousand grunts are gonna do just fine?
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Speaker 2: What about me? And that's what nobody thinks about all right?
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Speaker 1: Right, well, I think you're saying what a lot of
16:27
Speaker 1: people are feeling right now, mister Henry, If.
16:30
Speaker 2: You get off that working class hero kick for a
16:32
Speaker 2: minute and listen to what I'm saying. What about me?
16:36
Speaker 2: And what about all the guys there in the offices
16:38
Speaker 2: at at Row come.
16:39
Speaker 1: And and Edron and Tycho and their brains going all
16:44
Speaker 1: over their offices.
16:45
Speaker 3: That's right here is Teresa on a Phil Henry show.
16:48
Speaker 5: Hello Teresa, Yeah, I want to ask him. Didn't he
16:51
Speaker 5: was he aware when his wife was domain a ring
16:54
Speaker 5: that he was dying for her, that maybe that company
16:57
Speaker 5: was using money wrong?
16:59
Speaker 2: No? No, I was.
17:03
Speaker 3: Gotta turn your radio down, Teresa.
17:05
Speaker 6: Okay, but I mean this guy?
17:08
Speaker 2: Okay, did you know anything about business? Company? Do you
17:12
Speaker 2: know what anything?
17:12
Speaker 6: Break?
17:13
Speaker 2: No? But I didn't. I got a guy working for me,
17:15
Speaker 2: cooking the books like Martha Stewart took a kid.
17:19
Speaker 6: See you get over the company?
17:21
Speaker 3: Did you turn your radio down? Teresa? Turn it down?
17:24
Speaker 6: I didn't.
17:29
Speaker 2: What do you say?
17:31
Speaker 6: You make me sick? Take that gun and put it
17:32
Speaker 6: in your mouth, and do you stop?
17:34
Speaker 2: You don't want me to kill? Why don't all those
17:36
Speaker 2: seventeen thousand guys kill themselves. Where the guys to give
17:39
Speaker 2: them the jumps? Now?
17:40
Speaker 6: Where that you don't give it?
17:42
Speaker 5: Where are the working half off and sweat so that
17:45
Speaker 5: you can buy that?
17:46
Speaker 6: Did? Take care? Guy? Me?
17:47
Speaker 2: Read for your wife Theresa Leship? Can you hear the phone?
17:50
Speaker 6: We just gotta walk across the street. You know why
17:53
Speaker 6: you take the gun and do yourself a favorite? Forget
17:55
Speaker 6: the picture? What's your wife to favor?
17:58
Speaker 2: Listen to the phone that I'm on right now? What's
17:59
Speaker 2: sen that's the cheap garbage sports illustrated phone that I
18:04
Speaker 2: gotta use now because I'm on my rear end with nothing.
18:07
Speaker 6: You're on a book tour.
18:08
Speaker 5: Oh, I'm so upseited for you.
18:11
Speaker 3: I'm all right.
18:11
Speaker 2: I've had three heads.
18:13
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't have the ACA diamond ring.
18:16
Speaker 2: I worked for.
18:16
Speaker 3: Lizzie about the people making a good point. You're on
18:20
Speaker 3: a book tour right now.
18:22
Speaker 2: All right, so a publisher's playing.
18:24
Speaker 4: They're not putting me up at the ridge, but you're
18:27
Speaker 4: hurting so much.
18:28
Speaker 5: I am so much pity of you right now. I'll
18:30
Speaker 5: tell you, I'm just.
18:31
Speaker 6: Crying, crying cry.
18:33
Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you and I look at the third question,
18:35
Speaker 2: if dreams switchboard the CEO of world come they find
18:39
Speaker 2: him tomorrow. Okay, all Ron, just like you are.
18:42
Speaker 5: Okay, you near the pullouse is costing something. You near
18:45
Speaker 5: the diamond ring with cocking something you knew, the departure
18:48
Speaker 5: with coffee. Something you didn't think that was coming out
18:50
Speaker 5: of the now to the people that you should have
18:51
Speaker 5: been giving, raise and stiff.
18:53
Speaker 6: And pass on the back.
18:55
Speaker 5: Don't don't even patronize me with drag rants. All right,
18:58
Speaker 5: you are your head fan, an ignorant man, and that
19:01
Speaker 5: is why your company went out under. You are ignorant,
19:04
Speaker 5: all right. I had not want I.
19:06
Speaker 2: Don't want you to feel that way. But you don't
19:08
Speaker 2: understand how business is done.
19:10
Speaker 5: Already had energing restaurants and businesses all my life.
19:14
Speaker 6: Yes, I know how it's done.
19:15
Speaker 2: The three people are from Listen to the people.
19:19
Speaker 5: On the bottom, So shot man, poor trigger.
19:22
Speaker 2: Okay, won't let me listen to the phone I'm on,
19:25
Speaker 2: mister Hendry's what I'm saying.
19:26
Speaker 3: Okay, you're on a book tour and.
19:28
Speaker 2: You're the garbage pit time life cell phone. I got
19:34
Speaker 2: because I got nothing, And the reason why I got
19:37
Speaker 2: nothing is I trusted Jack Hembrey, who is the CFO
19:41
Speaker 2: of my company who is a line dog and is
19:45
Speaker 2: doing time right now for what he did.
19:47
Speaker 3: And did you or did you not know what was
19:50
Speaker 3: going on with the books at your company?
19:54
Speaker 2: Okay? Well why woman?
19:55
Speaker 3: Answer that with a simple yes or no would be nice.
19:57
Speaker 2: It's more than that. Did I know? Do you? Does
20:01
Speaker 2: any of us? Do you know? If God exists?
20:04
Speaker 3: Mister Green, I'm not going to have you patronize me.
20:06
Speaker 3: Did you know that?
20:08
Speaker 2: Sir? I'm not kind of patronized you, all right?
20:09
Speaker 1: Did you know that the books were getting cooked at
20:11
Speaker 1: your company and that you'd have to put thirty five
20:13
Speaker 1: hundred guys on the street.
20:17
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a fair question. I'm not going
20:18
Speaker 2: to dignify it with an.
20:19
Speaker 1: Answer that's not a question that causing it, that's what.
20:23
Speaker 1: Do you even dignify it with an I'm asking for
20:24
Speaker 1: the truth.
20:26
Speaker 2: I knew this guy was my brother in law number one. Okay,
20:30
Speaker 2: that's that's the big problem. You get into my wife's
20:33
Speaker 2: working a shellfish buffet and the next thing I know,
20:35
Speaker 2: I'm bringing in this father in law of hers that
20:38
Speaker 2: was a croupier.
20:38
Speaker 3: In Atlantic City as your CFO. Yes, and this is
20:42
Speaker 3: supposed to be somebody else's problem.
20:45
Speaker 2: She Let me tell you something. If you've seen my wife,
20:49
Speaker 2: she is put together like you would. Could I just
20:51
Speaker 2: be honest with you?
20:52
Speaker 1: Yet I don't care how put together your wife is.
20:54
Speaker 1: You're hiring her brother in law. You see what I'm saying.
20:57
Speaker 1: The guy was a croupier in Atlantic City. More bread
21:00
Speaker 1: being a croupie in Atlantic City than you do anything else.
21:03
Speaker 1: We're talking with Robert Green, a man whose company went
21:05
Speaker 1: belly up much the same way WorldCom went belly up.
21:08
Speaker 1: He had a hand in firing thirty five hundred guys.
21:11
Speaker 1: On Friday, seventeen thousand will be on the street, and
21:14
Speaker 1: he says, don't feel for the workers, feel for the
21:16
Speaker 1: poor CEOs who could kill themselves.
21:18
Speaker 3: He almost did. And now more on the Phil Henry Show.
21:31
Speaker 1: Mister Green, I'm gonna keep hitting this. The seventeen thousand guys, Oh,
21:35
Speaker 1: here we go.
21:35
Speaker 3: No, just listen.
21:36
Speaker 1: The seventeen thousand men and women that will be on
21:38
Speaker 1: the bricks on Friday because of this World comm debacle.
21:41
Speaker 1: The thirty five hundred employees that you yourself fired in
21:44
Speaker 1: the March of nineteen eighty nine because somebody.
21:46
Speaker 3: Cooked the books. What about those people?
21:49
Speaker 2: Let me tell you about the seventeen thousand that you
21:51
Speaker 2: want to bleed the crocodile tears for these people go off,
21:54
Speaker 2: they get off the job at five o'clock, they go
21:56
Speaker 2: have a beer. They got another job. This is a
21:59
Speaker 2: small world they live in. We're talking about these workers
22:02
Speaker 2: don't need the amount of money I need to maintain
22:04
Speaker 2: a lifestyle that at one time in nineteen ninety one,
22:07
Speaker 2: I owned a Rolls Royce that had been owned by
22:10
Speaker 2: John Lennon. Now that is an investment and I don't
22:13
Speaker 2: have that anymore. And you want me to start feeling
22:16
Speaker 2: bad about a guy who gets off the assembly line,
22:18
Speaker 2: goes across the street to some stake and brew sits
22:22
Speaker 2: down with a couple of buddies and says, what's happened
22:24
Speaker 2: at Verizon? He's in a truck. He's up on a
22:26
Speaker 2: line on Monday morning, and a Rolls Royce that John
22:31
Speaker 2: Lennon owned I had to dump in nineteen ninety one
22:34
Speaker 2: because of this, because of the brother in law, which
22:36
Speaker 2: I'm going to go number one on him, And oh,
22:40
Speaker 2: I think about the things that I lost in my life,
22:43
Speaker 2: if you can hear it, and again, here this craft
22:45
Speaker 2: home that I'm launched.
22:46
Speaker 1: Why did you get the publishing company that's got you
22:48
Speaker 1: on the World Book Tour or whatever, mister Henry.
22:50
Speaker 2: Is a tour of the West coast in the southeast.
22:54
Speaker 3: Well, get them to buy your cell phone.
22:56
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, okay, I'll give you a number of breaking
22:59
Speaker 2: books up. You called you with Reagan and have her,
23:02
Speaker 2: have her get me a new show for.
23:06
Speaker 3: Maria. Go ahead, Maria, go ahead, Christian.
23:10
Speaker 6: Allwear from you is poor me, Poor me, poor me.
23:15
Speaker 6: I have a crappy sell phone and I pour my
23:18
Speaker 6: brain down on a fricking eight thousand dollars The guard
23:21
Speaker 6: painting had to turn in that poor little old Rose
23:24
Speaker 6: race that John Lennon used to add? What about the
23:28
Speaker 6: thirty five hundred people you put them on the work
23:30
Speaker 6: because you say you didn't know what was going.
23:33
Speaker 2: On the where way? Well apparently you don't hear too good.
23:35
Speaker 2: I said that they can get off the line and
23:37
Speaker 2: go ahead to work for Verizon come Monday morning. What
23:40
Speaker 2: do they care?
23:41
Speaker 6: Did you ever did you ever hear agm Bisky?
23:43
Speaker 2: What's up? Man?
23:45
Speaker 6: Did you ever hear of Ivan Bosky?
23:47
Speaker 2: Yeah? He was a real schli ball. He got thrown
23:49
Speaker 2: in the prison in the eighties.
23:51
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I praise see see how and see us
23:55
Speaker 6: to excuse me? I used to I pray cfo last
23:58
Speaker 6: this shot up with Ireland by see he is a
24:00
Speaker 6: lofty man because he was on list. He was his mistakes.
24:06
Speaker 6: He started a new company and he ran his house
24:09
Speaker 6: and employed a lot of people because he couldn't find
24:13
Speaker 6: a job.
24:14
Speaker 2: So you know, came Maria Carea. Yeah, I find it
24:21
Speaker 2: really coincidental that the one guy you worked for for
24:24
Speaker 2: Ivan Bosk, he just happened to be the honest one.
24:27
Speaker 6: Yeah, that he did it. I knew what was going
24:33
Speaker 6: on in those books, and I say he was guilty.
24:36
Speaker 2: Am I broken?
24:37
Speaker 6: A honest? There's no ass now I'm saying you're guilty.
24:41
Speaker 6: I'm guilty saying that was going on in your book.
24:44
Speaker 2: I knew it was going to my wife brother in
24:47
Speaker 2: LAWA on you. My wife's brother in law who did
24:49
Speaker 2: this day I believe was mobbed up. Anyway, she brings
24:52
Speaker 2: him into my company, What am I supposed to do?
24:54
Speaker 2: Kick him out? This is a guy, he's got a neck.
24:58
Speaker 2: He's got a neck like a tree trunk. He hangs
25:00
Speaker 2: around with guys that are dealing ecstasy.
25:02
Speaker 3: And if you got this guy in your company. How
25:05
Speaker 3: could you hire a man like this?
25:08
Speaker 2: He's deeven crack down here at one of these dance joints.
25:11
Speaker 3: And he's the CFO.
25:13
Speaker 6: Yes, sir, everybody is blind. You've branned everybody. You've burned
25:18
Speaker 6: your life because she wants too much. You branned your
25:21
Speaker 6: kids because they need too much. You've gotten this brother
25:24
Speaker 6: of because you have no choice because he's standing with your.
25:29
Speaker 3: Maria. Please watch your language.
25:31
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, see this is what I'm talking about. These people,
25:33
Speaker 2: they come off the line at five o'clock and it's
25:35
Speaker 2: F this and F that, and you're in F and this.
25:38
Speaker 2: Seventeen thousand people with nothing but F on their mouths
25:41
Speaker 2: is going to be out of a job. I almost
25:43
Speaker 2: blew my brains all over a painting that today could
25:47
Speaker 2: be worth it excess of one hundred thousand dollars.
25:51
Speaker 6: He should have burned your brains out.
25:54
Speaker 2: Oh really? And how much do you think that the
25:56
Speaker 2: god be worth today? With my brains all over it?
25:58
Speaker 1: You know what?
26:01
Speaker 6: Why don't you have to stand that much money on?
26:08
Speaker 3: Exactly?
26:10
Speaker 1: Get take that money and reinvest it in people, reinvested
26:15
Speaker 1: into equipment, but create more jobs with it.
26:19
Speaker 2: Now, listen to that, and she's screaming at me. And
26:21
Speaker 2: I got the time life phone. I got a phone
26:23
Speaker 2: that's shaped like a shoe. Yeah, it doesn't sound like
26:30
Speaker 2: you've had a very good one either.
26:32
Speaker 3: All right, all right, listen, Maria, thank you for your calling.
26:35
Speaker 3: I think it made some very good points.
26:38
Speaker 1: Robert green who was involved in much the same scandal
26:42
Speaker 1: that World Com is involved in.
26:43
Speaker 2: Now, yeah, yeah, this is what I want to say
26:45
Speaker 2: to Sandry. Go ahead, what part of the show when
26:48
Speaker 2: when does it happen that you start getting my back
26:51
Speaker 2: a little bit? I'm sorry, At what point in the
26:54
Speaker 2: show do you start catching my back and stop with
26:57
Speaker 2: your Yeah, it was a really nice comment, Maria. Good going, Charlie.
27:01
Speaker 2: When do you stop doing that?
27:03
Speaker 3: I don't stop. Mister Greene under stands something. I am here.
27:06
Speaker 2: You're here to get the truth. Well, then when do
27:08
Speaker 2: you start catching right backs?
27:11
Speaker 1: Now you've heard about the uh you you you've mentioned
27:13
Speaker 1: the rolls Royce to belong to John Lennon.
27:16
Speaker 2: I own that at one time. Then this TWEETO that
27:19
Speaker 2: is the brother in law and my wife's brother. This
27:22
Speaker 2: guy cooks up the books.
27:23
Speaker 3: They busted me out, Perry, go ahead, you're on a
27:28
Speaker 3: phil Henry Show.
27:30
Speaker 4: Hey, you know what, Bud, you are moron. You need
27:34
Speaker 4: to take a seat back behind that. You've never been
27:35
Speaker 4: a seat to take a feed back behind that that
27:37
Speaker 4: that gun and thinking.
27:38
Speaker 2: About it a little bit. You've ever been to see
27:40
Speaker 2: the company start? Yes?
27:41
Speaker 1: I have.
27:42
Speaker 2: As a matter I doubt it.
27:44
Speaker 6: Oh okay, well you know what?
27:45
Speaker 2: There shows your amountment? What was your life? Well?
27:47
Speaker 4: Tell you what what was your line of what would
27:49
Speaker 4: have been rank correctly in the first place, the idiot
27:51
Speaker 4: wouldn't had to cook the books to show a profit.
27:53
Speaker 4: And obviously you don't know enough about management nor taking
27:56
Speaker 4: care of people to run a company, so they will
27:59
Speaker 4: work for.
27:59
Speaker 3: You and Purdue.
28:00
Speaker 2: How come nobody ever blames.
28:02
Speaker 4: I wrote the book because you don't know how to
28:05
Speaker 4: run it.
28:06
Speaker 2: You've got all the answers. How come you're not a
28:08
Speaker 2: CEO anymore? Because I used to do what I like,
28:12
Speaker 2: not what I have to to make money? I mean,
28:14
Speaker 2: how come nobody ever blames the workers?
28:16
Speaker 4: How come nobody ever blames the workers?
28:18
Speaker 2: Right?
28:18
Speaker 4: Does the workers do what they're told to do under
28:20
Speaker 4: the management style? You have no style?
28:23
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I don't think you were ever
28:25
Speaker 2: a CEO either, And if you were you know what
28:29
Speaker 2: they're always a rush is no longer if you.
28:30
Speaker 4: Can, if you could think longer than you could hold
28:33
Speaker 4: your WIENI, then you obviously wouldn't be out of business
28:36
Speaker 4: right now, would you?
28:36
Speaker 2: And you know about holding Weenie's house again. I had
28:43
Speaker 2: to laugh. Well, I got the craft bone.
28:46
Speaker 3: Can you hang that up or something?
28:48
Speaker 2: I'm walking closer to the base.
28:50
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's good.
28:52
Speaker 1: Uh, congratulations mister Green on your book tour. The book
28:55
Speaker 1: is called I have the name here.
28:58
Speaker 2: You can't take it with details from the other out
29:00
Speaker 2: of corporate.
29:00
Speaker 1: America, right, You can't take it with your tails from
29:02
Speaker 1: the other side of corporate America. And you talk about
29:05
Speaker 1: how you lost your job and do you have any
29:09
Speaker 1: money now? Have you made a comeback?
29:10
Speaker 2: No? I have not. I haven't made any kind of
29:13
Speaker 2: a comeback. And by the way, I haven't shold one book,
29:16
Speaker 2: so thank you for that too.
29:18
Speaker 3: It's not my fault, sir.
29:20
Speaker 2: Yeah.
29:21
Speaker 3: Well there you go.
29:22
Speaker 1: Just one view of what's going on in America right now.
29:26
Speaker 1: And that was Robert Green, who said that he sat
29:29
Speaker 1: there after he found out that the books had been
29:30
Speaker 1: cooked in his company and almost blew his whole his
29:34
Speaker 1: brains out. He almost shot himself all over an eight
29:37
Speaker 1: thousand dollars painting, and he's glad he didn't because how
29:40
Speaker 1: much would it be worth now with his brains on it?
29:43
Speaker 1: World Famous Phil Henry Show executive produced by me Phil
29:51
Speaker 3: Thanks Bob, I'm glad you're still with us.
29:53
Speaker 6: Yes, sure,