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...Did We "Finish It?" - Layers of Fear - Scerry Christmas Part 2 · Replay Reviews

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  I'm glad it's over.
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  It's over.
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  I do appreciate you starting me off with Outlast because the
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  jumpscares weren't too bad because they're not like gory, inhumane things.
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  Yeah.
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  It's different.
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  It's different for sure, but hey, you don't have to do any more horror
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  for quite some time, out of context summary in this episode.
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  There's a rat baby.
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  You have to go to the bathroom, but it's occupied and we're
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  stalked by a teddy bear.
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  Thank you for coming back from our replay reviews.
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  My name is Leah and my name is Kathy.
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  We are two friends who are here to replay, review and analyze your favorite video
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  games.
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  And since Kathy has never seen the games before, it helps me view them
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  through her fresh eyes, almost like I'm discovering them again for the first time.
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  We hope it'll be a similar experience for you.
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  Scene one, we are on the hunt for the fourth piece of the painting.
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  So there's a moment where we go into like a kid's room and there's like drawings
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  all over the floor and it's obviously done by a kid with some crayons and all
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  the different doors that he opens up, there's different words.
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  I think one's like selfish, then you fast forward into seeing a murdery drawing.
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  And there's that black tar.
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  I'm assuming it's associated with our main character.
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  And I feel like the kid, like the way it implies is the kid's calling him selfish.
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  And then he's, or she later commits murder.
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  I don't know.
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  I don't know either.
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  We find a party hat on a stuffed bear and when it's picked up, the voice says,
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  Hey, what is that?
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  Wait, what day is it?
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  It's Sunday.
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  You mean I, well, why didn't you come and get me?
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  God damn it.
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  You know how I get when I'm caught up in my work.
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  Well, the real question is, was he busy painting or was he busy just being drunk?
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  I mean, he says he's caught up in his work, but what does caught up in my work really mean?
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  Pretty quickly after that, I think there's a teddy bear in the window, like three minutes,
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  14 seconds staring at us, but right next to it, right next to the peeping teddy, we find
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  a pair of baby shoes, which reveals the next memory.
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  Sweet Jesus.
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  Did you just buy half of the department store?
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  Honey, you don't even know yet if it's going to be a boy or a girl.
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  So confirmed.
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  She's pregnant now.
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  Anything before the checkers?
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  Well, there's also like a heart drawing on the wall and you can hear it like actually beating.
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  And then there's like crying along with it.
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  That's really the first time we've seen a heart drawing.
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  That's really the first time we've seen drawings on the wall that move.
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  I don't know if we see that again, so I'm not exactly sure what that symbolizes, but
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  we play the game of checkers that's right by this drawing, seemingly with a ghost.
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  We pick up one of the checkers and hear.
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  You beat me again.
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  Sometimes I wonder why I even bother.
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  Good thing we didn't bet on it.
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  What?
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  What's so funny?
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  What's going on here?
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  Why is she laughing after he said, good thing we didn't bet on it?
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  I mean, it's a losing bet for him.
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  I don't know.
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  Yeah, I don't understand that.
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  I don't know what she's laughing about.
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  Things get really baby themed and doll themed for the next few minutes.
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  And I'm sorry, I find it all to just be hilarious.
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  Especially the baby thing.
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  It's so hilarious.
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  Especially the baby running into the wall.
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  There's this doll just sprinting and then it hits the wall.
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  There's a lot of dolls in this part though.
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  Dolls falling from the ceiling.
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  It's a lot of creepy dolls in a single room.
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  It's funny to me.
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  I feel like it's supposed to be more scary than funny.
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  But to me, it just feels like one of those comedy horror movies.
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  In the middle of all this baby doll stuff, we find a perfume bottle and hear the woman's voice again saying...
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  I had the most beautiful dream last night.
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  I dreamt he came to me, embraced me, loved me, as he once did.
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  But we both know that while I dreamed my silly little dream, it was you.
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  It was you he really lusted for.
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  So is this the same voice that we heard previously?
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  Yes, but I'm thinking there's actually a third person.
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  So we know there's the main character, there's probably his wife that I'm thinking it's the same person throughout the game.
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  And then you have the child.
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  And I'm thinking it's his third person and that's who she's referring to.
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  That's what I thought in part one, but after seeing this now for the fourth time.
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  I have a different thought, but I'm going to hold off for now until we get more evidence.
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  But in the nursery, we first see a series of drawings on the wall.
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  And this is what I am seeing first, like a happy family of three.
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  And then the mom is now in a wheelchair and the dad appears to be upset.
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  The third one is the dad, I think looks like a monster now and the little girl looks scared.
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  I thought that the dad was the one in the wheelchair because he was the one's like, oh, you're going to have to carry me up the stairs.
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  So I always had an impression that he was the one in a wheelchair that somehow can walk now because we're taking on the perspective of him.
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  We've gone back and forth on who the wheelchair belongs to.
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  But let me find the scene.
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  I'm going to play this for you again, because I'm fairly certain after watching it this time that it's the mom in the wheelchair.
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  Yes, you're right. The dad is the angry one and the mom's in the wheelchair.
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  And now mom is gone. Dad is looking wild.
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  And there's red streaks everywhere.
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  And then following that is writing on the wall.
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  And the first one says, hush little baby, the night is stark.
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  And then stars fade above you. The room goes dark.
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  Mommy used to come tuck you in. Now she's nowhere to be seen. And my biggest problem with that is why did it stop rhyming? The rhyme ended.
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  Well, the question is, who's writing this? Is it the kid?
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  I don't know, because she doesn't quite seem old enough to know words like stark.
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  What about all the selfish and the other words that we see throughout the game? Who's writing those?
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  My theory that I lean towards is he's just seeing this stuff or it's stuff that she used to say to him, his wife used to say to him, that just sticks in his brain now.
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  So I don't know if it's actually written on the walls or if he's just imagining it there.
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  But I think he's sort of replaying things that she's said to him.
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  All right. So after the light show, we find a lock of hair in the crib in here.
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  This was a special brush, like a horsehair brush, but different. At that point, I hesitated. Will this really work?
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  Fuck it. I was already halfway through. And besides, it's not like I can just put it all back and forget the whole thing.
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  Did he cut his daughter's hair off or his wife's hair off?
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  The hair is another part that he's taking it. I don't know who it is, but it's whoever has been their human body parts have been harvested by them.
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  It's the same person and that's that person's hair.
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  Yeah, because it makes more sense to me if it's the same person. I just get confused as to why it's in the crib.
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  Maybe it's the whole mama used to tuck you in. So that's why it's by the bed.
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  But we add the hair slash brush to the painting. It shifts into like a zombie.
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  And it's giving real trigger vibes.
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  Yeah, it is. It's making you wonder what's the common thread with all these paintings so far.
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  What do you mean by all the paintings? When we see all the paintings throughout the games, each one kind of morphs.
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  Are you just talking about in this room? Oh, just in the game so far.
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  Okay. Like all the different paintings that we kind of focus on, the first time we look at it, it kind of bleeds into the behind the scenes, the flesh of the things.
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  And this one looks like it's already unhidden. The blood and the flesh is of the painting. I don't know. I don't know how to explain it.
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  Yeah, I think I get kind of what you mean because it feels like as the game progresses, and I noticed in this half of the game,
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  things seem to get more intense. And I feel like we see more paranormal activity and more of these paintings shifting before our eyes.
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  So I think that's maybe what you're getting at. Yeah. Yeah.
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  So I don't know. I think maybe he's just descending farther and farther into this terrifying pattern of delusion.
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  Okay, we've got two pieces left. So in scene two, we find the fifth one.
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  So we also see a grandfather clock and the time is like moving forward, I believe.
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  I'm wondering if that has to do with anything or if it just is one of those extra details that they're trying to make the game show.
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  Like he's traveling forward back in time to its current state or versus his memory to show which state he's in.
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  Yeah, that's a good question, because it's not the first time we've seen a clock. We've been jump scared by one a couple times even.
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  So I don't know what could symbolize maybe just his confusion of time, because that seems to be something that's happening.
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  All right. So after wandering around a bit, we pick up a bottle of whiskey and another memory plays.
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  Hey there, Princess. What? Oh, this is daddy's medicine.
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  Whenever daddy's hurting, this helps the hurt go away. No, don't touch that.
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  Oh, God, I'm so. Wait, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
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  Did he hit her? I think so. And I think it's a good indicator that he has a drinking issue.
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  Either he hit her or either his tone of voice just scared her. I don't know which one it is. I'm leaning towards him hitting her.
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  Or at least like forcefully grabbing her away, like grabbing her arm and pulling her away.
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  Something that was probably just a little more intense than needed to be.
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  So there's a point where we enter a room that looks kind of basement D and creepy and there's a like a chain hanging from the ceiling.
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  And when we pull it, it sounds like it's perhaps connected to somebody in a painful way because there are like shrieks and painful cries every time we pull on the chain.
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  Who's being tortured? What is this? Is it his wife maybe chained to a wheelchair and something like that?
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  I don't know. It's really odd to me because it sounds more like a man, but I don't feel like I want it to be a man.
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  I feel like that doesn't make sense in the context of the game.
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  And this is where I kind of go back to, is he a serial killer? But that's not my theory anymore.
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  So I don't understand who's on the other end of this chain.
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  And there's a lot of crying from here on out and I don't know if it's all the same person.
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  Because there's like two distinct cries and I don't know if one is a baby and one is the wife.
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  Continuing on, we find a pile of broken paintbrushes, which reveals another quote.
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  You fucking took it from me! My dear! I want it back, you hear me? I will bring you back! Drag if I have to! I will make it right, honey, I promise! I will make you right!
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  My first note on this is that he sounds much more unstable than he has previously.
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  And he sounds more bipolar because he goes from confused to anger real quickly.
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  And I will make you right? Who says that besides an abuser?
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  And this is where my theory begins. I don't know if I want to share it yet.
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  So just remember that quote. And we'll keep going for now.
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  Do you have anything before the clock? The Hickory Dickory Dock clock?
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  That's my next note.
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  Alright, so yeah, we find this chest with a clock inside.
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  Hickory Dickory Dock. The mouse ran up the clock. The clock struck one, the horde ran down. Hickory Dickory Dock.
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  I think he's getting crazier progressively. Also, I'm pretty sure that's not how the song goes.
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  Yeah.
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  I don't... this one I don't know. But another clock, to your point.
• 13:42
  We saw earlier one of the little rats just guiding us and waiting for us.
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  And I'm wondering if this rat is maybe like the good spirit trying to guide us through the house.
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  I love that little rat. He's so cute.
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  Yeah.
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  Those little eyes. I'll give you a little bit more information on this.
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  From my first playthrough, I was collecting notes. You can find a ton of rat traps.
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  You can find a letter from an exterminator.
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  You find lots of sketches about rats and it seems like some of them are maybe real and some of them are more hallucinations.
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  So there's something about the rats that really gets to him.
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  Again, jumping ahead to the next item, it's a compact mirror. And we hear a woman saying,
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  You know, even though you are my rival and the source of all my sorrows, you're also the only one I can still talk to. The only one who will listen. I'm not sure if it's funny or merely pathetic. Probably both.
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  And so this is when I... because we've been thinking maybe there's an affair going on.
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  And this feels like it would solidify that. But for some reason, I just feel like that's not what she's talking about.
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  And I almost feel like... and I'll explain more later. I feel like she's talking to maybe a portrait of herself or of another woman or just to the paintings in general.
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  Okay, I can see that. I feel like that would work.
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  I thought this was before they were married. And this is when they're still... he's still trying to flirt with her, terribly flirt with her.
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  That's my first thought, but I could totally see her talking to a non-human about this.
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  So in the library room, there's a hidden phone that rings and when we find it and answer it, a woman says, Talk to me. Why won't you talk to me?
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  And we play some phone tag, find the next phone call, and she says, You promised.
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  The third phone says, This solves nothing. It never has. It never will.
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  And the fourth and final call says, You deserve this. All of it.
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  And then that sort of fades out as the phone melts.
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  Anything before we discuss what comes out of the phone?
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  Well, it's not Andrew Eerlicker. I'm not going to say that.
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  We'll talk about the discussion first, but it starts with, Talk to me. Why don't you talk to me?
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  And I'm assuming this kind of goes in chronological order, but this is probably starting at the downfall of him and his crippling alcoholic addiction.
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  Maybe she's talking to a bottle of alcohol instead of a painting.
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  No, but it's obviously it's directed to him and it's him with his alcohol addiction.
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  She's trying to help him and he probably doesn't want help.
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  And then she just kind of gets mad. And then in the end, she just like, Forget it. You're in a mess. You deserve this.
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  And I'm not going to deal with it anymore.
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  And then her saying, This solves nothing. Never has. Never will.
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  That might be maybe the necklace that we find later. Maybe he gives her gifts or maybe she's talking about him drinking, just drowning his sorrows.
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  But out of the melted phone pops out a finger.
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  They needed something to add the how should I put it? Final touches. A finger.
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  I needed a finger. Chopped it off. Easier than sawing a leg. Washed it. Dried it in an oven. Fell asleep. Almost burned it.
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  Will I manage to pull this off?
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  Okay, number one. Does this mean that he has sawed a leg off before?
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  Yeah. Yeah. It's disturbing.
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  Who is this guy?
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  And why does he need a finger? Is he using this finger as a paintbrush for like finger painting or?
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  I think it's like a texturing tool. Like he's using it to add texture to the painting as I imagine. Can he use his own finger?
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  Like why does he need to have a finger? Apparently not. And it has to be dry for some reason too.
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  I'm, well, oh god. I don't even know what to think.
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  Maybe drying it out preserves it.
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  So it's not just a one use tool. But anyway, number two. Is he putting his wife in the painting as a way to hide her body?
• 18:23
  Oh god. Whoa. I'm a bit shocked that is he using her body parts to make his final painting?
• 18:33
  I think so. Like we've been wondering is it multiple women? Is it multiple people?
• 18:38
  Oh my god.
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  I'm leaning towards it just being her now at this point.
• 18:43
  Yeah. Yeah.
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  Okay. Well, the next point I have is looking at the desk. So in the desk one of the drawer he opens up has like a bunch of these metals.
• 18:55
  And it looks almost like something you would give to a war vet or something.
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  And that's why I was still kind of flip flopping thinking that maybe he's the one in a wheelchair because he's a survivor or not in a wheelchair, but he has some injuries because he was a war vet and he got metals.
• 19:17
  Is he in a wheelchair then or did he heal better or was this? I don't know. What do you think?
• 19:24
  Yeah, no, these are good valid questions because I think the game does a little too much to confuse us.
• 19:31
  I don't know if it's purposeful with the whole wheelchair thing because they introduced that he has a limp and that there's something wrong with his leg, which maybe that he lost his leg in a war or something.
• 19:43
  And what that has to do with the game as a whole, I'm not sure why his limp, what that would have to do with anything except maybe it's just a hint he was in a war.
• 19:51
  Maybe that brings some PTSD into this whole thing and gives a reason for why he's so unhinged.
• 19:57
  But I think it's a little bit too confusing because they show us the wife in the wheelchair, but then they also highlight that he has a limp.
• 20:04
  So it's confusing, I think. Yet he jokes that she'll need to carry him up.
• 20:11
  She's in a wheelchair. You can sit in her lap and you guys can go up the elevator. But what?
• 20:17
  I don't think she's in a wheelchair at that point.
• 20:21
  Does he break her legs?
• 20:24
  We'll discuss. Sawed off her leg. No, we'll discuss.
• 20:27
  Maybe he sawed off his own leg.
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  Because here's why I've been thinking it's not her leg is just because we've put every other part of her in this painting.
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  So why would they mention the leg and not have that added to the painting, which it still could be.
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  But now that we're talking about the war and his limp, I'm wondering, did he have to saw his leg off either from a war injury or just for whatever reason?
• 20:54
  Well, I don't think you'd be sawing off his own leg if he's in war. There's going to be other people around.
• 20:58
  You wouldn't think so. But maybe he even just witnessed it.
• 21:03
  And I will say we might just be going down a rabbit trail here because I have seen these metals in other drawers, so it could just be standard background aesthetic, you know, to add things to make it look lived in.
• 21:15
  So it could just be nothing. Yeah. But I kind of like these theories.
• 21:23
  All right. So back in the studio, we add the finger to the painting and the zombie turns into a slightly less dead looking woman. So, okay, we've come a long way since the smudges and the flamingos.
• 21:35
  There's a room with weird rat lady paintings and in one of these paintings, we find a dead rat and we hear, do you mind explaining this to me?
• 21:44
  I know what it is. Care to tell me how it got in my workshop? It's top line. We both know it couldn't have gotten there on its own.
• 21:51
  So who's the one putting these rats there? Is it his wife or is this child?
• 21:57
  We know that the rats bother him. So maybe his wife's putting them in his workshop to just piss him off because he's ignoring her and being drunk.
• 22:08
  Or my other question is, are there actual rats or is he imagining it? He thinks they're lying. They didn't do it because it doesn't exist, but he thinks it's real.
• 22:18
  And so he's getting angry over nothing. That's my other question. Is that, are we sure these rats exist?
• 22:26
  So I think at the time of this quote, I think they were real and I think he didn't like the rats and that's why she put one in there to get on his nerves.
• 22:36
  And maybe all of that sort of just amplified into this weird obsessive fear that he has with rats and now he's hallucinating them as a result.
• 22:45
  So moving on, we find a room with a bed and it erupts into flames and there's some gauze on the nightstand which reveals another memory.
• 22:55
  Is that her? Can she hear us? This is all fixable, right? No, you don't understand her face, her hands.
• 23:11
  I- she will be devastated.
• 23:15
  So is he talking about she's devastated at her own injuries and this is like a result of a fire that's causing her damage?
• 23:24
  Or is it her devastation because something happened and she can no longer paint and therefore she's mad and that's why she broke those paint brushes.
• 23:34
  I will make you right as in he'll heal her.
• 23:37
  Okay. I'm thinking about what you said because the quotes surrounding the paint brushes, I've never thought about her breaking them.
• 23:49
  So now I'm considering that.
• 23:55
  Because I was leaning to- well, I'm gonna save it. I'm gonna save it until we get to the last or second to last quote.
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  Because we need all the information to discuss this.
• 24:08
  But do we think that this is the wife or the daughter who's being burnt?
• 24:13
  I think it's the wife.
• 24:15
  Okay, I think so too.
• 24:18
  And then just another thing I want to highlight on this for now before we move on is when he talks about her face, her hands, and then he says I but then changes it to she will be devastated.
• 24:29
  I think this is a hint that leads me to my overall theory of like, he doesn't like the way she looks anymore because her face is burnt.
• 24:37
  Maybe those drawings is of his wife where when you take the gauze off, that's the flesh that has been exposed because of the fire.
• 24:47
  And when I heard him saying I, I almost thought he was gonna say like, I didn't mean for this to happen.
• 24:53
  Because the question remains what started the fire.
• 24:57
  Maybe we should put a pin in this for now but we both agree it's the wife and yeah, her face is messed up now.
• 25:04
  Right. Okay.
• 25:07
  Is the necklace your next note?
• 25:11
  All right, so moving on to the necklace. We hear God, I am such an idiot to think that someone like me could ever compete with you in all your sublime beauty.
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  Everlasting, immortal.
• 25:27
  So it's these last two words that really solidified my theory for me, everlasting and immortal.
• 25:34
  Those two quotes make me wonder if she truly is competing with either a portrait of herself or a portrait of another woman.
• 25:44
  And yeah.
• 25:46
  And so he's more in love with this portrait and while she now is disfigured and so can't compete with the portrait or the memory of her.
• 25:57
  Then this is where it because we know he's an artist and that's all he is right.
• 26:02
  And what do all artists have?
• 26:04
  And I don't hate artists. Okay. I took a lot of art classes in high school and elementary, middle school.
• 26:11
  Yeah, you did.
• 26:12
  I took a lot of art classes. I like I like creativity.
• 26:17
  I just don't like when that's your only personality trait. So I'm not hating on artists anyway.
• 26:22
  But all people like this guy, they have a muse, right.
• 26:26
  And so maybe she's his muse. But now that she's disfigured, she's not his muse anymore.
• 26:32
  And this is why your comment about the paintbrush quote.
• 26:36
  I think about that because when he was saying like you took it from me, I'll get it back.
• 26:42
  I was thinking and this is depending on timeline again by getting it back is her painting a portrait of her as she was rather than as she is now.
• 26:53
  So he has his muse back.
• 26:56
  According to the timeline, I think your point is valid if she's just trying to sabotage his work by breaking paintbrushes.
• 27:06
  Because my thought was that she's also a painter.
• 27:11
  At first, I thought it was like I can't compete with you and not the painting.
• 27:17
  Like I could see it going both ways. But one is just like kind of saying it's everlasting.
• 27:23
  That makes me feel like it's it has to do something that's stopped in time, which kind of goes back to the clocks.
• 27:34
  So I don't. Yes. Let me let me add something else to that.
• 27:38
  OK, because I think you're onto something. But we've had more hints to her being a musician.
• 27:43
  We find the violin and we've heard her playing the piano and we have that one quote where he's like, don't stop playing because like it helps me paint.
• 27:52
  So maybe even the violin refuses.
• 27:56
  Yeah, either she refuses to to keep playing for him or her hand is damaged and she can't keep playing for him.
• 28:04
  She is injured. And that's why he's like, like, what are you doing up or like whatever he says, like you can't play the violin is because it's danger.
• 28:14
  Or my other new crazy theory is that he knows that she knows she can't compete, so he knows that she's going to try to sabotage him.
• 28:23
  So he needs to hurt her first and therefore breaking her legs and lighting her face on fire.
• 28:30
  Oh, wow. I think we're close.
• 28:41
  Not long after discovering the necklace, we find a room containing a vanity on which all of these items of the woman's that we found so far are on it.
• 28:51
  And we kind of look at them and then her voice fills the room and says, I finally figured it out.
• 28:56
  And it's all thanks to you. You showed me that there is no other way.
• 29:00
  Even now, your sad smile confirms what should have been obvious. We will not speak again.
• 29:06
  So I don't know if there's anything you want to jump into. I feel like this is this is a woman who he has a affair with.
• 29:15
  I don't feel like this is his wife or it's just really early in the timeline, like, or it's when they're angry right before her injuries.
• 29:25
  I don't know what it is. Let me find that scene because there's something I noticed this time that I didn't notice the other times.
• 29:33
  Because there's a mirror, so I was wondering if she was talking to herself.
• 29:37
  But I noticed this time watching with you, there's a portrait above the mirror.
• 29:42
  So I think she is talking to this painting.
• 29:47
  And I don't I wish I could zoom in because that might even be the same necklace that we find.
• 29:52
  I mean, it looks similar.
• 29:55
  It might be the same necklace.
• 29:57
  I wouldn't be surprised.
• 29:59
  So I'm wondering if this is a portrait of her and she's talking to her old non disfigured self.
• 30:08
  And when she says like your sad smile, that matches up with that painting, too.
• 30:12
  The sad smile represents her just looking back in time, knowing that she was never happy back then.
• 30:19
  And that's like an indicator.
• 30:21
  And it's an older portrait.
• 30:24
  And now he doesn't like her anymore, which I think will lead into the next item.
• 30:32
  Yes.
• 30:34
  And don't forget that she ended up by saying we will not speak again because then we find a bloody knife in the bathroom.
• 30:41
  And the quote we hear with this one is what is taking so long?
• 30:45
  Open this fucking door.
• 30:47
  I need to go.
• 30:49
  Open up.
• 30:51
  What the hell is? Oh, God.
• 30:54
  No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 30:57
  What have you done?
• 30:58
  No.
• 31:00
  I think she tried to take her own life because then we look at the tub and maybe she was in the tub and yeah.
• 31:07
  Yeah.
• 31:08
  I think the reason why is because she can't compete with her old self.
• 31:14
  And we already know he's obsessed with his artwork.
• 31:17
  And so he's probably more obsessed with this picture of her at least, or maybe even she's just perceiving that because he doesn't give her the kind of attention that she used to get.
• 31:26
  And we know that from her her dream when she says he came to me like he used to.
• 31:34
  Anything before the eyeball?
• 31:36
  Nope.
• 31:37
  Eyeball sticks.
• 31:38
  Okay, so in the same bathroom in the bloody tub, we stick our face in the water and like see weird visions.
• 31:47
  I don't really understand what's happening here, but at the end of it, we find an eyeball in a jar.
• 31:53
  And he says.
• 31:55
  Finally, someone had to bear witness.
• 31:58
  I couldn't just look at my own work.
• 32:01
  Art and the artist needed an audience, a critical eye on things.
• 32:09
  I knew what I had to do.
• 32:12
  I gouged it, scooped it up like ice cream, felt like a butcher, a monster, but at least there was to come something beautiful from all this filth.
• 32:23
  Why did he describe it like that?
• 32:28
  Why does he describe anything the way he describes it?
• 32:30
  That's true, but why would you say scooped it up like an ice cream when you're talking about gouging someone's eye?
• 32:37
  Like who does that?
• 32:40
  So the eye is, I guess, added to the painting, which then turns into a woman.
• 32:44
  And the artist is very happy at first until it morphs into the same woman, but with a burn mark on her face.
• 32:51
  And then he yells, this time I almost had it.
• 32:54
  And he tosses the painting into a room filled with dozens of identical paintings.
• 33:00
  So we entered the room.
• 33:02
  There's either three possible things that are happening is that one, he's plagued with the same inspiration for the drawing and he keeps drawing it and he only realizes it at the end of it.
• 33:13
  Two, he's cursed that he can only draw that drawing because it's like a curse of him killing his own wife or whatever.
• 33:24
  And that's the last image and he can only draw that now.
• 33:27
  Or three, he can't ever finish what he started, like with the art exhibit, because he can't make a painting of something else besides that.
• 33:39
  So first, let's back up just a second, because after he tosses his painting, we wake up back in the house.
• 33:44
  He finds the key from his office again, unlocks the studio again.
• 33:48
  And it's just like the start of the game and the same starting painting reveals itself.
• 33:53
  The overall idea is that he can't draw anything else.
• 33:57
  He's stuck drawing the same thing, whether or not he intends to and can't move on with his life.
• 34:04
  He's stuck in that same recurring pattern.
• 34:08
  We get more hints to that because in the cubbies in that studio room, that's where we put all of the ingredients that we find,
• 34:16
  and he writes the quote that he says when he picks them up in the cubby.
• 34:20
  And at the end of the game, not only do we repeat finding the key, coming to this room, the painting's the same,
• 34:25
  we see that this quote has been written over itself multiple times.
• 34:29
  And so I think it's pretty clear that he's been repeating this process constantly.
• 34:35
  Do you have an overall theory? Do you want me to share my overall theory or is there anything else that you want to discuss first?
• 34:41
  My theory's too broken. Go ahead.
• 34:43
  Okay. So my theory is basically she or her music was like his muse.
• 34:51
  That's how he made this amazing art.
• 34:53
  And then the fire happens. I'm not sure how or why, if it was an accident.
• 34:59
  She gets disfigured from the fire. She's not beautiful anymore. She can't play her music anymore.
• 35:04
  He starts to love her and appreciate her less and less until she kills herself.
• 35:09
  And then he feels guilty and also just wants his muse back so that he can get his gift back of painting.
• 35:17
  And his attempt at doing this is using her body to create a portrait of her in an attempt to bring her back.
• 35:26
  But he seems to only be able to paint her disfigured form.
• 35:30
  And that's why he gets frustrated at the end, says, I almost had it.
• 35:34
  Maybe he even does paint a proper portrait, but his mind, he's so screwed up that all he sees is the disfigured version of her.
• 35:42
  Or maybe she's just haunting him.
• 35:44
  I like that. Where does the child fit in?
• 35:47
  See, there's one of my episode look backs is where's the daughter?
• 35:51
  She's the rat.
• 35:52
  Did she die in the fire? Is she the rat?
• 35:55
  I like that idea because it explains why she's in a wheelchair in that one scene and how it happened and why he decides to keep parts of her body.
• 36:05
  I feel like that's a very comprehensive theory about everything we've seen so far in trying to make sense of all this.
• 36:13
  The third person that's saying that, oh, I dreamt of this other person, but we always knew he lost it after you more.
• 36:20
  Who's that person?
• 36:22
  I think she's talking to her old self or that portrait of her.
• 36:28
  I think she starts to lose it too.
• 36:30
  Probably.
• 36:31
  Because of his behavior.
• 36:33
  Yeah.
• 36:34
  And so maybe at some point they both go insane and their daughter gets taken away from them.
• 36:38
  And then that really pushes her to do what she does.
• 36:42
  Yeah.
• 36:43
  I don't know because we don't ever get, I don't think, unless there's a note that we can find any conclusive evidence as to what happens to the daughter.
• 36:52
  I feel like the daughter may have started the fire based on how angry she is with her dad.
• 37:02
  But maybe she dies in the fire.
• 37:05
  Maybe that's what also pushes the wife over the edge.
• 37:08
  Honestly, I feel like this whole, unless that's the purpose of the daughter in the story, is pushing them over the edge.
• 37:14
  I don't understand the purpose of the daughter in this game.
• 37:18
  I think we answered as many questions as we could.
• 37:21
  And I think our ending timeline is pretty close and the theories are probably pretty accurate.
• 37:28
  Yeah.
• 37:29
  Well, anything else that you want to say for Layers of Fear or Scary Christmas?
• 37:33
  It's not like I'm not happy with the ending or I'm happy.
• 37:36
  I'm just left confused.
• 37:38
  So this is one of the games where it's not like I don't like it, but it's not like I like it.
• 37:45
  It's just I'm very...
• 37:46
  Yeah.
• 37:47
  And it's not even neutral.
• 37:48
  I'm just still confused.
• 37:50
  I think it's one where it kind of has to sink in.
• 37:52
  And I've had the opportunity to see it four times now.
• 37:57
  So I've obviously had a lot more time with it than you have.
• 38:03
  But I think as it sinks in, it'll make more sense.
• 38:07
  And maybe in the season wrap up, you'll have more to say about it.
• 38:10
  But we did it.
• 38:12
  You got through Scary Christmas.
• 38:13
  You got through another scary game.
• 38:15
  I did it.
• 38:16
  Well, you're getting better.
• 38:18
  Thank you.
• 38:20
  I guess we will see you all in the season wrap up episode in a few days.
• 38:24
  And Merry Christmas.
• 38:26
  Yes.
• 38:27
  Scary Christmas.
• 38:29
  You want to count as well?
• 38:30
  Yes.
• 38:31
  We'll have the audacity on one, three, two, one.
• 38:33
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• 38:34
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• 38:38
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• 38:45
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• 38:47
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• 38:50
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• 38:53
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• 38:56
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• 39:01
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• 39:31
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