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Cruella · The Art of Costume Podcast

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  I do appreciate like a naked cat or a hairless cat.
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  I should say. I can't make it the rent.
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  Are you think you think I just changed?
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  They have different little further outfits.
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  They put every day. Hello and welcome to the art of
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  costume. I most enjoy glass and I'm
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  Spencer Williams Elizabeth. Hi.
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  Welcome everybody. Welcome to the very first
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  episode of The Art of costume. Oh my gosh crazy.
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  This is a solid six months of planning.
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  Yeah, very solid. But we've been wanting to do
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  something like this for a long time and I'm just, I still can't
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  believe you're actually doing it.
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  It's exciting. Yeah, I'm definitely nervous.
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  I we know what we're doing. Kind of.
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  Okay. I don't know.
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  Actually, that's just the nerves talking.
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  We know. We know what we're doing.
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  We haven't a sound engineer. AKA our friend, Daniel white.
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  We're gonna have fun. We're going to talk about movies
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  and TV shows, and all of our favorite costumes or costumes,
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  who don't like, we're just going to I can't talk fashion.
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  All of our thoughts and feelings are going to be out there.
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  We are a costume centered podcast.
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  However, we will interject our personal feelings about each and
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  every film. As we go, scene-by-scene through
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  all of these and I have a lot of feelings.
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  So this is kind of like my own therapy session talking through
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  each movie and show. Okay, good to know.
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  Elizabeth, what are we watching today for our first episode?
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  For our first episode? We are watching the Disney
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  reimagining of the famous villain.
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  S from 101. Dalmatians.
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  Today we are watching. Cruella.
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  Oh, I love this movie. It was so good.
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  It was so good. When you fir first, like, let's
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  do karela for our first episode. Like I was not excited, I did
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  not like the trailer. The trailer just seems like very
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  like boring and like it was just going to be like a very Petty
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  stormy wind. I was like, oh the old washed-up
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  fashion designer steals, the young spunky, fashion, designers
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  designs, no fires. Her real original, but then it's
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  not, oh, no, I love the, I thought it was so fun.
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  I'm not a big Disney person. As, you know, like it, I have to
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  You have to do some convincing to get me to watch a Disney
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  movie, unless it's like Marvel. Yeah, there's or Star Wars.
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  Honestly, I'm actually the same. There are quite a few like
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  Disney films that I still have not seen that.
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  If I told people I hadn't seen them, they probably freak out
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  and with you we could talk about after so we don't get it.
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  So we don't have any any any potential fans.
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  I was so happy that they kind of went the um The Maleficent or
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  brow with her to like make. Oh I see what you're saying to
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  make hurt sympathetic but like not too sympathetic.
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  Yeah, I mean she doesn't regret any of her actions.
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  Nothing. No.
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  And the costumes in this movie are insane.
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  Oh my gosh. I you know, I think we should
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  just head into. Yeah, let's just get started and
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  then we can go behind the Wardrobe and talk about this.
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  All right, so I put together a little summary like I said, I'm
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  Trying to put together summaries in my own words.
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  All right. This is how I took it when I was
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  watching a movie. So here's our first summary
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  Estella, a young fashionable girl with creative aspirations,
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  who has recently orphaned meets a pair of Thieves who
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  appreciates her mischievous lifestyle during the 1970s Punk
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  revolution, in the Streets of London, Estella begins to work
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  for fashion. Legend baroness Von Hellman
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  Estella and bark. He's on a journey of Revenge
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  when she discovers the shocking truth behind her mother's death
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  with fashion as her weapon, loyal dogs and chosen family.
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  Estella becomes the icon. We have all come to know karela
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  DeVille. Yeah, yeah, that's about it.
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  That's like really The Bare Bones now that we've gone
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  through the summer. I just want to stop here for a
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  second and let everybody know this is not a spoiler free
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  podcast. No.
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  Absolutely not. If you haven't seen Cruella and
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  you care about spoilers, you gotta stop.
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  Here. Don't go any further.
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  Go wash Cruella, I'm pick back up, press pause right now.
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  Whatever you're listening to go watch gorilla.
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  If you're in the car, you know make sure you pull over to the
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  side of the freeway First, Watch karela, and then start driving
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  again, you know, just maybe just safely.
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  Make your way to a theater. I like the idea more.
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  Don't say it. On the side of the highway on
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  your iPhone. Plus, this is not a movie that
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  should be watched on your iPhone.
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  The costumes are too good for that.
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  Oh, I agree. So, let's, let's go behind the
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  Wardrobe, guys. Let's see.
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  What brought? What brought this incredible
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  wardrobe together. So the director of this film is
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  Craig Gillespie, but the genius behind this wardrobe is Jenny
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  beavan. I did not How many amazing films
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  this woman has done? Let me just let me just take you
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  through her notable films. Are you ready?
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  Spencer, I'm ready. When we all know and love,
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  apparently, I have not. I've actually got seen this yet
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  Mad Max Fury Road for, which she won an Oscar.
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  Brilliant, absolutely brilliant. The King's Speech, another
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  brilliant, one Gosford Park. Which I actually have no idea
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  what that movie is, but every article I read brought it up as
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  a notable film of hers. Is that we might have to look
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  into that Spencer added to the list.
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  She also costumed Room with a View and she makes Helena
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  Bonham. Carter look incredible in that
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  film Sherlock Holmes with Robert Downey jr.
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  Oh yeah, Ever After the 1995 Sense and Sensibility with Emma
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  Thompson, so she's been working with Emma Thompson for a very
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  long time. She did the Epic.
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  Alexander with Angelina Jolie and a little more recently.
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  She did the costumes for the Nutcracker in the four Realms.
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  Oh, I love those costumes. She is.
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  Truly an incredible designer across all different award
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  shows. She's gotten a total of 55
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  nominations and 25 wins. 10 of those is for the Oscars with two
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  wins. She's got an 11 bafta
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  nominations with three. Ins.
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  Wow, five Emmy nominations with two wins.
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  So this woman, she knows what she's doing.
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  She's the real deal and Jenny is the real deal.
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  So creative, like just from doing like, you know, Regency
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  Era, the sent Jane Austen Sense and Sensibility to Mad Max Fury
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  Road. I'm like, that's quite
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  thoroughly. As I believe, she's actually on
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  the set right now of furiosa, but the, the prequel to Mad Max,
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  She is. But let's get back to Cruella.
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  So for Creole acrylic, she really had to create white, the
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  Wardrobe. Obviously, like you said this
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  film is all about fashion and how people use fashion?
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  She, and all the interviews I saw with her, she said she
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  really didn't Focus so much on the fashion.
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  I mean, obviously they take A lot of inspiration from the
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  1970s, especially the punk scene because that's where karela is
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  set. So she took that inspiration.
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  But she said, she was always worried about telling the story.
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  That's what the costume. That's how she got so these,
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  incredible costumes, clearly it was no small fee.
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  Let me take you through some facts about the word.
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  Ruper kualoa, Emma Stone's, Cruella, wardrobe consisted of
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  47. Pieces.
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  Oh my God. Emma.
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  Thompson's wardrobe for the baroness consists of 33 pieces.
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  Wow! And Paul Walter Horace as
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  Horace? They each each of them had a
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  30-piece wardrobe. That's insane.
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  So this is just costume after costume after costume.
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  They had. I don't know how many extras at
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  all of those party scenes and I believe this was filmed pre
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  covid so those are Actual background actors.
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  They had to dress, who knows how many dozens of background
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  actors. It is insane.
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  The work that went into this and it's no surprise.
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  Kirill has reported budget, was 200 million dollars.
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  Hello. So it's like okay that one to
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  wardrobe you would think they're there's just there's so much
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  it's all Very, very beautiful. Like she hits every single be
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  perfectly. And according to a Vanity Fair
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  article, she was really allowed to, like, just do her own thing,
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  do what you would like, but they the studio instructor her make
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  it conceivable that Stones Cruella.
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  Could possibly one day, turn into Glenn closes version of the
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  character, that's a quote from Vanity Fair.
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  All right. Love that I've Seen the Glenn
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  Close version of Cruella. It like the movie of it, but
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  I've seen pictures of her and I'm like, oh yeah, this she
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  could turn into her. I love those movies.
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  I used to watch them all the time and I do see a parallel.
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  I do see Emma Stone's character. One day, becoming Glenn closes
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  character. I believe Glenn Close was
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  actually an executive. She was out of she's executive.
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  She was actually a producer on this film.
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  Oh, really? That's fascinating.
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  Yeah. I guess she really likes for.
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  Well, huh, wow, I mean, it's it's so funny.
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  Like so many people our age. I mean, that's how they know
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  Glenn. Close was playing karela back in
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  a day. Yeah, just like Glenn Close is
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  done so much more than just 101 Dalmatians, but a lot of people
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  know, Glenn Close as Cruella de Vil.
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  So she, I believe she wanted to have a hand in anything.
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  Grill is a bill that's going forward, I could see that.
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  Yeah. Also, one last little behind the
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  Wardrobe, fact. Not once does corroded L have a
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  cigarette in this movie. Mmm, and it's for a great
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  reason. This is Disney.
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  This is a children's film, Disney will no longer promote
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  smoking and any of their movies. That's so funny.
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  So apparently like Emma Stone was actually kind of excited to
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  like hold and work with that, but she was like, oh no, that
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  makes sense. Yeah, children's movie yeah.
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  I mean, they create a whole new kind of iconic Cruella just - -
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  the cigarettes. I didn't even realize that when
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  I watch that. I've watched it a couple times
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  now and yeah, that never done to me.
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  We, I'd have to double check myself on this but they've
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  actually put like a lot of money and effort into going into the
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  old films and digitally taking out cigarettes like they're
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  committed. I love that though.
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  That is cool. That's cool.
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  Why should we jump into it? Yeah, let's do it.
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  I'm so ready. Those are some brilliant behind
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  a wardrobe facts. I'm just so hyped to get into
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  this movie. So let's take a little break and
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  when we come back, we're going to start Cruella.
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  Elizabeth her ready to get this movie going?
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  I'm ready, I'm ready. Let's do it.
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  All right, so we start the movie and Estella, not Guerrilla.
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  This is Estella, she was born with black and white.
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  Hair. And so she's already kind of the
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  odd. One out, it's very strange, but
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  also very cool. Yeah, it shoot.
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  That was like a cute little shot of the baby with like, half
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  white hair. Have black hair.
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  I was like, oh, look at you and we come up fast forward to
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  Estella going to school. She looks fabulous.
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  But she's like, getting into trouble.
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  Probably taken dodgeball little too seriously, although she
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  looks really cute in that seemed to with like, What like what are
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  those? He has like the crossing like,
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  sashes or something. Yeah, she has like this cool
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  outfit with these, like, Crossing lapels almost sets
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  looks like leather. Or when you brought a dodgeball
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  kind of gave me some flashbacks. I hated the DodgeBall people
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  took it way too, seriously. I mean, we're not trying to kill
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  each other while lunch is after this, you know, the advantages
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  of going to cyber school. I didn't have to deal with that.
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  Well, lucky you, yeah. I was the one that was
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  notoriously game pelted by balls all day.
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  That's unfortunate korilla. Not korilla backup.
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  Estella is wearing this printed jacket that has like.
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  It looks like she likes. Cool.
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  Do over a sleeves of it. What are you doing, school?
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  Vandalizing your uniform all day.
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  She's not focused clearly, she's not focusing on school.
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  She's focusing on looking amazing.
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  And she's getting bullied for that.
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  Yeah. And which is unfortunate
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  unfortunate because her style is crazy, and it sucks that people
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  feel the need to make fun of other people because they're not
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  the same as you, I know. And it's like, she is like a fun
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  outrageous, very outspoken person but she's forced to like
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  try and fit in and it's like that's not who you're meant to
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  be bu-but. Those kids in that school or
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  you're like such bully. These terrible.
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  But she does make some friends, like I need a darling.
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  And Anita, darling is darling. I love her.
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  She is darling. I wish she had been in the movie
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  A little bit more. I really liked her character.
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  Yeah. That she's under his character,
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  but I think we'll get there. But also, sure, Jack is full of
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  embellishments to. She has pins, she has buttons,
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  she has bows She has a, she has lots of bobby pins.
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  She has everything like honestly like that her her lapel full of
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  the tens. Like that was my favorite.
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  And then like she's got her Converses all like paint it like
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  painted up like kids do today, right?
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  And I'm like, you are really just like you're out here to do
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  the most and I love it. I love it.
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  But all of this being said the kind of leads to her.
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  Yeah getting expelled but estella's Mom is Quickly like
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  well actually she's withdrawn you can't expel.
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  I love that her mom is her biggest cheerleader, right?
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  She is however, her mother also recognizes her character
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  defaults because, you know, because she's this outrageous
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  person. She does have a little bit of a
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  temper, so she does kind of like give it back to the kids serving
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  it to her and one night when her and her mom are like sewing
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  away. She's complaining about the kids
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  and her mother's. That is cruel, you are cruel
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  Ella and I'm like, oh there's our comes from, there's the day,
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  I love her mother gives her her nickname and I was like, oh
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  that's sweet, but I think I would have cried a lot if my
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  mother called me that. But um but anyway her mother
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  recognizes that this is not the place for her a small town.
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  She sees that her daughter is going places and she's like,
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  okay, Let's pack it up and go to London.
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  We're going to London. I like we need to make a tiny
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  tiny little little pit stop. And that's where everything goes
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  downhill. I mean that's quite done under
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  statement. Yeah, so they're driving down
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  and she's like, oh Mom, you're wearing like your pretty dress,
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  which is this gorgeous? Like, very kind of like, riding
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  me a little bit of Dior, very do your at her oh her mother is
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  played by Emily. The beach man who does a
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  fantastic job? But I thought she was, um, for
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  like the hottest of seconds. I thought she was on my gosh.
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  Who's the woman in Jurassic Park?
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  A drastic World Bryce Dallas? Howard, I thought she was Bryce
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  Dallas. Howard.
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  I was like, that's really weird that like Bryce Dallas.
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  Howard would like take this role but I was like, oh wait.
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  Nose and it don't be stupid. That's not her cousin just
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  recently, watched Jurassic Park. So that's true.
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  But like she has like the same color hair and like, kind of
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  style, but I can see it. Yeah.
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  But she's wearing this very cute.
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  Like d, aurash little Ensemble and they pull into a massive
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  estate which over the door says he'll Munhall.
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  That's like a good name for your like Wi-Fi.
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  Router, they pulled a helmet Hall.
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  And things are busy. There are cars pulling up there.
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  Are people getting out who look like they're about to go party
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  at Versailles. There are service people there
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  kegs flowers. Everything's coming in now and
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  Estella is just automatically like fascinating.
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  Yeah, I don't blame her. As soon as I saw one costume, I
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  was like, oh, that's an interesting interesting outfit
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  for the 60s and then we again side and it's a full-on 18th
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  century like French. Revolution costume party.
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  Now I know what I'm doing for my birthday next year.
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  Yeah. Like it is, it is all out SL is
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  fascinated by her. Mom's like, I need to go talk to
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  somebody. We need a little bit of help to
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  London so I'm going to go talk, you're going to stay right here
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  with you dog. And I'm going to give you my
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  very special necklace necklace which is an heirloom.
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  It's this beautiful like red pendant necklace and she's like,
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  okay here's my necklace. Hide The Hat on her.
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  It's just here, Hide. Stay with the dog hide.
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  I'll be right back. You see her mother off talking
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  to like a very important looking man.
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  Played by, Mark Strong from such movies as Shazam, 1917, The
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  Kingsmen, I love him. I don't know about you.
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  I was really excited when I saw him.
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  I was like, oh my gosh. Yeah, he did a great job in this
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  role and I liked it a lot. It's like it's Merlin he's here.
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  But of course, SLS trying to be, you know, Shrine to heís, trying
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  to be good. She's trying.
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  Not to let her impulsive tendencies get the better of
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  her, but she just sees too many things that she cannot resist
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  and goes into the party and it is a huge 18th century.
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  French Revolution, fashion show, and it blew my mind.
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  I know I was not expecting that. It was totally beautiful, Jenny,
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  beavan costume designer. I just, I was speechless
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  actually seeing this scene and this is like in the first what?
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  10 minutes. Yeah.
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  So I was like, if this how we're starting to movie like where we
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  going from here? I mean that's what the bar so
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  high. So high.
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  And it's like Everyone likes is in the same like color scheme.
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  Like the girls on the runway just are beautiful and perfect.
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  It's Quite the scene to behold, but unfortunately, I still, I
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  can't just like, sit on the side and her cute little schoolgirl
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  uniform and watch things, cuz she brought her dog with her for
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  whatever reason, we have to bring the dog everywhere.
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  I mean, well the dog did Loki escape from her and the dog was
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  really cute and so I I don't blame the dog for following her
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  because just dog is cute and needs to be seen buddy.
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  Buddy, buddies, adorable Buddies.
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  But the dogs and this really take the cake, but she's chasing
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  after buddy. Mark Strong sees her, he is on
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  John the valet in this. That's right.
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  John, the valet sees her in his like who is this Intruder?
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  Like he looks really nice. He looks ready to like strangle
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  her. So she's like oh oh oh gotta go
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  get my dog and get out of here. So she's like running and then
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  all of a sudden no wonder Cruella, doesn't like Dalmatians
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  because she's got a Pack of three Dalmatians.
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  Chasing her down like ready to tear her throat out.
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  These are some mean like intimations to, I was caught off
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  guard. I know like I I I did not expect
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  that cuz it's like, oh, the animated want.
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  It's like, oh cute little Dalmatians.
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  Just trying not to be murdered by like an insane Maniac.
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  But then here are the dogs are like I will murder you
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  Elizabeth. Are you a dog person or a cat
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  person? I'm a cat person.
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  I don't get me wrong. I like dogs.
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  Dogs are fine. I was terrified of dogs to.
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  I was in college. I would it was no it wasn't a
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  real problem. It was a real problem for very
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  long time. In middle school I started to
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  tolerate them. I was deathly deathly afraid of
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  dogs Elementary School. Wow like get up on a chair freak
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  out like I didn't want them touching me.
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  I didn't want them licking me, my mom.
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  It's not that unusual. Now, and also like I want my one
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  and uncle, they had a very big friendly Labrador.
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  Labrador, when I was very, very young and my mom thinks because
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  she would like jump up on me when I was like, hmm, a very
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  small little toddler. So my mom thinks that was the
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  precipitating incident of Maya horror.
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  This is anyone listening right now with a fear of dogs?
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  I'm sorry. If the past couple minutes have
• 24:04
  been kind of scary for you. Sorry but it is okay.
• 24:08
  I'm here to let you know, you can get through it.
• 24:11
  Come out the other side and be okay with dogs.
• 24:16
  Like, if someone like I like I thought like I wouldn't I barely
• 24:20
  had any opinions of them, even being cute now I'm like oh like
• 24:24
  dogs are cute and cool. Yeah.
• 24:26
  If I ever have one, it will only be for protection.
• 24:31
  Well, I'm a dog person. I you are, tall person.
• 24:35
  I'm definitely a dog person. I appreciate cats from a
• 24:39
  distance, mostly because I'm allergic.
• 24:41
  So it's just that's not a situation.
• 24:43
  I try to get into, I do appreciate like a naked cat or a
• 24:48
  hairless cat. I should say, Nick, it make you
• 24:50
  feel weird. Are you think you think I just
• 24:55
  changed? They have different little
• 24:56
  further outfits. They put every day.
• 25:00
  They just like have little. Let me okay, I think I'm gonna
• 25:03
  be an orange cat with white stripes.
• 25:05
  Like oh, I should I be a black cat with Oak?
• 25:09
  White tray for right down the middle and just put a Skittle
• 25:13
  putting on a little black and white wigs and black leather
• 25:16
  Punk jacket. I think that's what you think
• 25:20
  cats do. All right, let's enough with the
• 25:24
  cats and not nice. Let's get out of this Mansion.
• 25:28
  Let's get back to the sets out of reality that Estella It is an
• 25:31
  orphan who just witnessed her mother's murder via a ravenous
• 25:35
  pack of dogs. So I still ends up making it to
• 25:40
  London. She goes to this Fountain.
• 25:43
  She's talking about with her mother.
• 25:45
  That was so sweet. Yeah.
• 25:49
  Sweet. Bitter.
• 25:50
  Sweet. Yeah.
• 25:51
  Because they talked about getting T at this Fountain and
• 25:53
  she's like, well, I'm here. Mom, but there's no T, but she
• 25:57
  does find her too soon to be new friends, Jasper.
• 26:01
  And Maurice does and through their dog wink.
• 26:06
  Very adore. Ali coming up and being like,
• 26:09
  what's going on here? I would like to do it.
• 26:11
  Podcast episode just about wink, the dog, who's wearing a little
• 26:15
  eye patch link has has some of the best outfits in this great.
• 26:21
  Like, Winx it like the whole wardrobe is amazing, but pay
• 26:25
  special attention to wink. Yes, definitely wink is a
• 26:28
  transgender yes. Trend server.
• 26:31
  So she dyes her hair red and turns into Emma Stone.
• 26:41
  Let me Sarah, she's dying her hair.
• 26:43
  I love the black and white hair so much.
• 26:46
  It was so good but it's like, you know, that's why I that's
• 26:50
  what a young kid would think is like, what they have to do is
• 26:54
  change who they are so fast forward to many years later, and
• 27:00
  like Elizabeth said, Emma Stone is now playing a Stella and
• 27:05
  she's all grown up and we see her in this black pinstripe
• 27:09
  suit. And I'm obsessed with this suit.
• 27:11
  It's already starting off. Well, we are, and they, the
• 27:15
  three of them have grown up to just like basically be grifters
• 27:19
  and con artists. And that's just that's just how
• 27:23
  they make their living, and it's adorable.
• 27:25
  How she makes all their disguises.
• 27:28
  I was like, oh, I know I love it.
• 27:31
  She's just sewing along all these disguises.
• 27:33
  She is see one outfit at with this disguise of a headband.
• 27:38
  That's so cute. Yeah, I love this one.
• 27:40
  This guy, she has for she's brain like this giant black
• 27:43
  furry muff with cheetah print over there pretending to be like
• 27:48
  Russia in the jewelry store. Looks like Moira Rose.
• 27:53
  I love it with the black fur and like, the, the chained.
• 28:01
  Good old fell and wink has like that little like plaid vest on
• 28:08
  even as she's screaming, like a really bad Russian accent.
• 28:13
  It's amazing. We could just end the movie
• 28:15
  right here and I would have been satisfied with what I've seen so
• 28:18
  far. I know I would have been like,
• 28:20
  okay cool and then one day she tries to kill puppies.
• 28:23
  Great. Um, she looks good.
• 28:26
  I also love their like um, there-there bus, they're little
• 28:31
  Bust Heist. Oh yeah.
• 28:32
  Where she, she has like the black pinstripe like pencil
• 28:37
  skirt suit, the gray. She looks very like, oh, don't
• 28:41
  mind me with her, like her Graco, and like, the little, the
• 28:45
  scarf tied around her chin, and the big glasses.
• 28:49
  That's so good. It is so good.
• 28:51
  And then like Jasper, right next to her, and just like a, that,
• 28:55
  from just plain tan with the bowler, ehat I'm like, oh, we're
• 28:59
  not suspicious out. Don't mind us.
• 29:03
  I don't think it's so cool. I love this idea of her being at
• 29:06
  home just kind of sewing all these disguises every night.
• 29:09
  It was like evil Project Runway I know because I feel like so
• 29:13
  many of these it's like oh yes I was doing this this and this but
• 29:15
  like I wanted something more out of my life and she's like I do
• 29:19
  want something more out of my life and she's still like she's
• 29:21
  very content. Hmm.
• 29:23
  Like I like that. She's not like I hate like being
• 29:27
  a grifter. She's like, no, this was cool.
• 29:29
  Like I got my family. I do what I love to do.
• 29:33
  It's not exactly what I wanted to do.
• 29:35
  Yeah. But I'm still doing it.
• 29:37
  So some costumes. I want to mention that this part
• 29:40
  first was Jasper's black shirt that has like this white trim on
• 29:44
  it. I love that shirt.
• 29:46
  He's comparing it with these plaid pants.
• 29:49
  She like, clearly just lets a Stella dress in, oh, obviously,
• 29:54
  totally. So, it's not like, I got a job
• 29:56
  and now she's gonna go work. At the Liberty store.
• 29:59
  The Pinnacle of Send in London. Oh yes.
• 30:04
  But it's not quite what she thought it would be, not quite
• 30:07
  but still, you know, it's not quite what she thought of me,
• 30:10
  because she's walking up to Liberty and, like, this really
• 30:13
  nice black outfit. She's wearing her little Beret.
• 30:16
  Looks very fashionable. And she gets there and she's a
• 30:21
  janitor. Yeah, so happy birthday.
• 30:25
  And she is constantly trying to get the attention of the D store
• 30:30
  manager. ER, because she knows she can do
• 30:33
  a good job with the windows or being on the floor but he's just
• 30:37
  like, did you clean what? I tell you to clean.
• 30:39
  Okay, cool. This man, I he gave me so much
• 30:44
  anxiety, that's just because I was like, oh my gosh, like he is
• 30:48
  gonna have a heart attack in two seconds.
• 30:51
  I know. I'd like he is so, like, stuffy
• 30:55
  and stressed out and like uptight.
• 30:58
  I'm like, how are you still alive?
• 31:00
  He's exhausted. Saying, but was not exhausting
• 31:03
  was the actual fashion. We saw walking through this
• 31:06
  building down to the restrooms that test of this cleaning.
• 31:12
  I mean like again Jenny, beavan design a costumes for the set
• 31:16
  and it felt like we were just looking at real footage from the
• 31:19
  1970s Punk fashion. Well, the story isn't quite in
• 31:24
  quite Punk. It's a little more likeable man.
• 31:26
  Yeah, we're mainstream but it's still great.
• 31:31
  Like people are walking new. Now, the store they look like,
• 31:34
  oh I'm the fanciest dresser. These people are trying to be.
• 31:39
  They have beautiful outfits and as tired as she is to be
• 31:45
  cleaning everything. She, you can tell.
• 31:47
  She just feels like so lucky to be there until she gets until a
• 31:51
  little bit of trouble. Yeah.
• 31:53
  She's, you know, taking out the trash which by the way I loved,
• 31:57
  how they made her a little maid outfit.
• 31:59
  Look all trash and dirty, which you don't?
• 32:01
  See a lot in this movie. No, but she kind of gets drunk
• 32:06
  and is hanging out in the window display, which I thought, by the
• 32:09
  way the window displayed, I thought the dress looks very
• 32:11
  nice, but Estella doesn't like it.
• 32:14
  So, now I'm questioning my choices now.
• 32:16
  So she also by the time she's throwing those out.
• 32:20
  The door has closed and locked behind her.
• 32:22
  So she has no choice but to walk through the front of the store.
• 32:27
  Looking disgusting with a piece of banana on her face and just
• 32:31
  Horrify her boss even more. Yeah, her boss is already
• 32:35
  horrified because she totally redid the window display went to
• 32:38
  this really cool newspaper gown. This is that's after Spencer.
• 32:43
  Uh yeah so you're right. He's he's horrified sorry back
• 32:48
  up so he's horrified that she looks like a piece of trash
• 32:53
  walking through their store and is like my office.
• 32:58
  Now, pretty sure he's about to have a heart attack but we see I
• 33:01
  he's not having a heart attack. He's got that.
• 33:04
  Good. Good, whiskey.
• 33:05
  And a nice little, beautiful decanter.
• 33:07
  Yeah. And his office and he's like
• 33:09
  taking little shots all day. Apparently, I feel thirsty now,
• 33:13
  and she's like, I'm sorry. This like, this is my bad.
• 33:17
  Totally my bad. However, that that like this
• 33:21
  play out front is trash much like, how I look right now, I
• 33:25
  can do a better job and he's like, no.
• 33:28
  And she's like, okay, please just don't fire me.
• 33:30
  And he's like, Like oh no I'm not gonna fire you.
• 33:33
  You're just going to clean my my office top to bottom.
• 33:37
  So she's there and she lets her impulses get the better of her
• 33:41
  eye. She drinks all of his whiskey.
• 33:43
  Yeah. I mean I understand why she's
• 33:47
  doing this at this moment. I'm exhausted like her.
• 33:50
  I need a drink. Yeah.
• 33:52
  It's it's not it's not fun times for her right now and she's once
• 33:56
  again carrying a bag of trash through the store after close.
• 34:00
  She's the only one There, and she's like this window design.
• 34:05
  I'm going to make this better and next thing she knows she's
• 34:08
  asleep in the window. Oh, with a beautiful display
• 34:13
  around her. It looks so good, though.
• 34:16
  Like, I don't know how she wasn't standing out there, just
• 34:19
  ready to present like a good school project.
• 34:21
  She was, I know it came out. So nice.
• 34:26
  We're gonna notice a lot of newspaper being used at this
• 34:29
  movie to lots of Rash. Lots of trash.
• 34:33
  It's a very trashy movie and a good way.
• 34:35
  Yeah. And the best way possible.
• 34:38
  Yeah. But um, basically her boss is
• 34:43
  just like no, yeah, this is done.
• 34:46
  You need to go. Yeah, you need to go, but who
• 34:49
  shows up, who shows up Spencer the baroness shows up and when I
• 34:54
  tell you I was sick. I was sick the first time you
• 34:58
  see Emma Thompson. The baroness is Wearing this
• 35:01
  huge. Golden shawl, collar coat
• 35:06
  glasses with this gold. Trim.
• 35:09
  Everything about us, right her. She loves like a big solid
• 35:13
  collar. You'll see this.
• 35:14
  And she also likes as, like, cool, like beehive type.
• 35:18
  It's not like they're not actual bee hives, but it gives that
• 35:22
  same like a fact. And it's like, only Eva Thompson
• 35:26
  could pull that off. Yeah, I mean she looks snatched
• 35:29
  every time you see her, she'll Just every time you see Emma
• 35:32
  Thompson, I'm in slow. Its, that's a kind of the story
• 35:36
  of this movie when you see a Stella versus Emma Thompson.
• 35:39
  You like, oh she looks amazing. Oh no, actually, she looks
• 35:42
  amazing. Oh wait, no, actually she looks
• 35:44
  amazing. And it's, that's like the story
• 35:46
  of this movie. Yeah.
• 35:49
  So she walks in and immediately, the managers like, oh my gosh.
• 35:54
  I'm so sorry. I know the the displays awful.
• 35:58
  It's terrible and she just wants to know like who did this.
• 36:01
  Sign me and he's like she's fired.
• 36:03
  She's over there but she's fired like don't worry about.
• 36:05
  We're going to fix the situation and I'm at Thompson's like you
• 36:08
  fired her. He's like, yes, absolutely, of
• 36:11
  course you fired her. It's all good and she's like,
• 36:13
  okay, Assistant gave her my card.
• 36:16
  She's hired, she loves the display.
• 36:20
  I love this if tall if only that's how real life worked.
• 36:23
  I know. She's just like oh, you're an
• 36:26
  angel. She tells him.
• 36:27
  He's an idiot. He's just like, oh yes.
• 36:28
  Yes of course I am. Yeah, you're definitely An idiot
• 36:32
  Estella gets out of there. She goes back home with her
• 36:35
  chosen family, and she's getting ready for her first day.
• 36:39
  But of course, before we do that horse is trying out the some of
• 36:44
  the garments that he stole from the store.
• 36:46
  He's a strain on like this cheetah print.
• 36:48
  Curious. I I love that shows a good one.
• 36:54
  Yeah, he did. She's a good one.
• 36:56
  Well I think before she starts her first day at the house of
• 37:00
  the baroness, I think you and I should take a break.
• 37:03
  I think we should welcome back. We need water and I need to go
• 37:10
  throw some pennies in the fountain outside my house.
• 37:13
  So when we come back, we're going to work.
• 37:16
  Yeah. All right.
• 37:37
  Well, we're back back in Elizabeth.
• 37:41
  Are you ready to go to work? I am ready to go to work.
• 37:44
  And I'm Godly, our just like every creative person in the
• 37:48
  world. Yes, 5 a.m. he said don't be
• 37:52
  late. Okay?
• 37:54
  So today is the Stella's first day at the house of baroness and
• 38:00
  just walking into this building. It's already, it's already
• 38:04
  giving me everything I need. Even the mannequins are serving.
• 38:07
  Some real. Looks just walking into the
• 38:09
  building. They really are and like, you
• 38:11
  can immediately tell she dressed up for her first day.
• 38:14
  Oh yeah, all black little Beret and she just fits right in your
• 38:21
  like, oh, you're where you belong now?
• 38:23
  Oh, yeah. I'm getting so much D or just
• 38:26
  scan from this building. It feels very dear to me.
• 38:29
  Absolutely, one thing I did love about the house of baroness was
• 38:35
  that everyone was wearing white gowns at White, almost like lab
• 38:40
  coats, which is really typical of a modern-day Couture house.
• 38:45
  Yeah. And I think it was even more
• 38:48
  common back then, that all this seamstresses and The other
• 38:54
  crafts people would wear their lab coats.
• 38:57
  Yeah, it's actually one of the requirements I believe.
• 39:01
  I don't know if it still is, but to label yourself a Couture
• 39:04
  house. One of the specification is, is
• 39:07
  that in your attlee a Atelier? I'm telling, you must have an
• 39:12
  Atelier in Paris and employ at least 20, train seems just
• 39:16
  seamstresses and it was common, almost required to be sporting
• 39:22
  work coats. Or Is kind of a lab coats
• 39:24
  because they considered sewing and creating garments to be a
• 39:29
  science, which is why they were those codes.
• 39:32
  Absolutely is what you. And I know both of them.
• 39:38
  Yeah we do. I mean like the the math that
• 39:43
  goes into patterning and sewing. It's a science.
• 39:49
  Yeah, it's not easy being a designer.
• 39:51
  So shout out to all the designers costume designers
• 39:54
  seamstresses pattern, makers, Tanner makers.
• 39:58
  Amen. You're doing the Lord's work
• 40:00
  your and we love you hear the podcast.
• 40:03
  So Estella makes it into the house baroness and it's
• 40:07
  instantly to me overwhelming. I know it's like to be you know,
• 40:12
  that feeling that's your first day of the job but this place
• 40:15
  Takes it to a different level. Yeah, nobody's saying.
• 40:18
  Hi to her. It's just like, oh, you're here.
• 40:21
  Go work. I'm starting to think that
• 40:23
  you're not allowed to say hi here.
• 40:26
  I know. Oh, my gosh.
• 40:30
  And then like, when she walked one, the baroness walks in
• 40:34
  looking fabulous and everybody freaks out.
• 40:38
  Oh yeah, she's walks in wearing this dark green suit with a
• 40:41
  large bow and this head wrap. And she looks stunning.
• 40:46
  Of course she does Emma Thompson.
• 40:49
  Kills this role. She really does.
• 40:52
  And I mean I feel like I'm more used to seeing her as like she's
• 40:56
  usually one of the good guys but man can she play a villain?
• 41:01
  Oh yeah she's good at it. She's bad at it and in good good
• 41:04
  kind of way. Yeah.
• 41:08
  So this next scene, I was excited to talk to you about was
• 41:11
  same scene as excited to talk to you about this because it gave
• 41:14
  me see Is flashbacks of being back.
• 41:16
  Oh my gosh FM, where we had to create something and line it up
• 41:22
  on the dress form and wait for critique and wasn't as traumatic
• 41:26
  as this. No Emma Thompson didn't walk by
• 41:29
  us and try to cut us with a knife.
• 41:31
  No, the Phantom instructors, were much Kinder in their
• 41:36
  constructive criticism, very much Kinder.
• 41:39
  I was never cut, but it did kind of take me back.
• 41:42
  I know what it's like to sit there and just have your meant
• 41:45
  critiques in front of an entire room of people.
• 41:48
  I did have um, I did have a pattern teacher who this this
• 41:57
  scene gave me the most fives back to her, her pattern class
• 42:01
  because it was pattern to, and I had had a very, like, chill
• 42:04
  teacher, the class before that like the semester before that
• 42:09
  he'd been very chill and he was kind of like, I don't really
• 42:12
  play by the rules because he was lovely and British.
• 42:16
  Um, and then we go into her class and she's just like this,
• 42:20
  very hard, like, Eastern European woman, who was like,
• 42:24
  what did you all like? Cuz apparently, none of us were
• 42:27
  like, up to par. Oh gosh!
• 42:30
  Not a single one of us because a lot of those people had been in
• 42:33
  my previous class. She was like, so confused and
• 42:38
  like, was really just like, what are you all doing?
• 42:41
  And then quickly realize we just needed like Refreshers and was
• 42:44
  very kind of it. That was like, that was the
• 42:46
  closest I've ever had. So like being cut by Emma
• 42:50
  Thompson, being cut by him a Thompson's and the things she
• 42:53
  says, as she walks with people's garments, she literally calls
• 42:56
  one person's foolish. She tell someone that their
• 42:59
  dress is unhinged unhinge and straight up fires that you're
• 43:04
  fired. What it's like drops his head.
• 43:09
  Yeah. He's like yeah, I am fired.
• 43:11
  I'm stupid. But Estella creates this really
• 43:14
  nice. This green dress with this
• 43:17
  shoulder, kind of flew onto the fabric.
• 43:20
  Of course, Emma comes up and just cuts it right off, which I
• 43:23
  was kind of confused by. I liked it with the shoulder.
• 43:26
  Yeah, but she's so distracted, too, because so she cuts it off
• 43:31
  and in the process like gives em a ton, Emma Stone a little by
• 43:35
  little Cuddy, cut them like holds her hand.
• 43:39
  It was like we need this color. It's the color of her blood.
• 43:42
  It's like, oh my gosh. Tone it down there, it's heard a
• 43:46
  way I almost expected. Like one of the Dyers to come up
• 43:50
  and like take a little sample, they probably did, they just
• 43:54
  probably didn't show us what a crazy first day at Stella
• 44:00
  leaves, you know it's been a long day and she ends up going
• 44:05
  to visit them. A wonderful little vintage shop
• 44:09
  in London. And in society, I loved our tea
• 44:13
  party was Our team is so great. He's very pumped.
• 44:19
  Like, they're you punk gives me very like 1970s Ziggy.
• 44:24
  Stardust Vibes. David Bowie.
• 44:27
  Absolutely. He has to be like the main
• 44:30
  inspiration for this character. Oh yeah.
• 44:33
  Well, he's got like a red vest cheetah print his eye.
• 44:38
  Makeups. Like a little like one eye is
• 44:39
  like very like, you know he has like very thick eyeliner.
• 44:43
  The other ones, the same very thick.
• 44:44
  Sir, but like with some little like flares around it and I'm
• 44:47
  like, oh my goodness, you are a work of art.
• 44:53
  I would totally shop here to this place.
• 44:55
  Looks sick. I know.
• 44:57
  And it still is wearing that this kind of dark green jacket,
• 45:01
  and it has like this Punk graffiti on the sleeves is kind
• 45:04
  of faint but you can kind of get a good look at it.
• 45:07
  And so once again another brilliant jacket yeah, on this
• 45:12
  Stella so that was fun meeting already.
• 45:15
  But it's time to go back to work.
• 45:18
  Maybe this is her break, I don't know.
• 45:20
  And so he cuts it a scene and the baroness walks in and his
• 45:25
  shoulder Cape dress with a another headdress.
• 45:28
  This look is amazing, but you don't even have time to focus on
• 45:32
  it because the baroness instantly is like you that I
• 45:35
  need you to pick up my lunch and shouts.
• 45:37
  The most complicated order. All I heard from it is seven
• 45:42
  leaves of parsley. That's right, I did.
• 45:45
  Shredded the I already screwed it up.
• 45:47
  I'm fired. You would have been fired.
• 45:50
  I wouldn't we all we both would have been fired.
• 45:52
  Estelle had it all down, but I would have just went home.
• 45:56
  I broke down in tears and left. Oh my gosh.
• 46:02
  Write it down. She just gets up and is like,
• 46:04
  okay, I like where I would be like where do I go?
• 46:07
  Is like, is there? This is a huge place.
• 46:09
  Is there a kitchen? Is there like a little store
• 46:11
  around the corner that you like 17 that leaves?
• 46:15
  See, literally in this Meal, which I don't, you know what,
• 46:17
  the meal is, because I didn't hear everything.
• 46:20
  It's like, some sort of salad, what she was Estella in said,
• 46:25
  salad, alleged salad, counting the parsley leaves.
• 46:29
  Probably she probably stood there and watched the person got
• 46:33
  it and like she had specific requirements.
• 46:35
  For health in her cucumbers were to be, it was insane.
• 46:39
  She was sobbing, all sorts of math instructions and I was
• 46:43
  exhausted. Oh my God, that building and
• 46:49
  never come back. Yeah, I gotta go.
• 46:52
  So the baroness has a meeting go with if this to my lawyer.
• 46:59
  Oh oh no choice just is two other guys.
• 47:02
  I'm not even sure what they do. So it's these it's Steve's to a
• 47:07
  department store guys. They run department stores and
• 47:11
  they're trying to tell her that like she's Stop and like they're
• 47:17
  either not going to carry her suffer anymore, they're going to
• 47:19
  carry less of her stuff. I was kind of confused on like
• 47:22
  what exactly they were kind of like it's house threatening her
• 47:26
  with, but she's like, oh no, a like, basically, like your
• 47:32
  stores are trash and like nobody's coming into them.
• 47:35
  So that's why my stuff isn't selling because you're not doing
• 47:39
  your job to make your stores look good and get people in
• 47:43
  them. So she was Like don't try and
• 47:45
  blame this on me. I did my research of why I'm not
• 47:48
  doing well and it's your fault. Yeah, I mean you kind of put a
• 47:52
  nice spin on it, she said all that but then she's also like
• 47:56
  and you're short. You're stupid.
• 47:58
  You're ugly. Get out of like she's, she's
• 48:01
  straight up and salsa. I wrote this correct.
• 48:16
  It's even like, I was like oh that's hurtful okay.
• 48:21
  And then we're saved because Estella walks in with the
• 48:26
  mysterious meal with the seven leaves of parsley.
• 48:30
  Shredded leaves, yes. And the baroness says, oh
• 48:35
  finally someone around here. That's competent.
• 48:37
  Yeah. But someone crashes in the room
• 48:42
  and it's her lawyer, Roger, and I labeled this scene nand or the
• 48:48
  nandor the incompetent because Elizabeth do, you know, who
• 48:52
  plays a larger and they, and or apparently, according to you, I
• 48:56
  was okay, even a Novak who plays nand or and what we do in the
• 49:02
  shadows. It was like, guys, you should
• 49:04
  have seen how should I was like 3 minutes ago when I put?
• 49:09
  Well, I saw his comments and was like, oh, that character's name
• 49:13
  is Nan Dora. I'm thinking, oh, that's
• 49:14
  strange. And he's like, no Sabbath.
• 49:16
  No, it's not. Yeah, we had a whole moment
• 49:19
  before we got back to recording and I was just like, I don't
• 49:23
  know how you couldn't recognize him, but I guess he wasn't
• 49:25
  wearing his vampire gown and long.
• 49:27
  Yeah things. Yeah, he looks very different
• 49:32
  like heat, like he's not putting on the accent like there's a
• 49:37
  good scene. It was a great scene.
• 49:39
  And so she's not exactly sure why he was there but it's a
• 49:42
  great scene. I'm not too sure what the part
• 49:46
  rods are plays in this story. Like they don't do anything
• 49:50
  legal related except for a will at some point.
• 49:56
  But I'm not even sure frauds or has anything to do with that
• 49:59
  because they've lost over real quick.
• 50:01
  The gloss over it. Of course we do a call back to
• 50:04
  Ron sure at the end this film but I think we'll talk about
• 50:07
  that later. But yeah, like I wit like this
• 50:11
  is why I like DVDs because I know you got all those good like
• 50:17
  deleted scenes. And I'm like, how many?
• 50:19
  Because like they must have paid him.
• 50:21
  Like a pretty penny. For sure.
• 50:23
  Like how many deleted scenes of him?
• 50:24
  Are there? I bet you this a ton because
• 50:27
  they do. Yeah, that's one character.
• 50:28
  I wish we explored a little bit more.
• 50:31
  So Estella and the baroness go on a car ride and they end up at
• 50:37
  the baroness's home. And Estelle has been doing
• 50:41
  sketches for the baroness and the this entire time, like
• 50:45
  things have progressed quickly in a cell is career.
• 50:48
  So the baroness is getting dressed in her room.
• 50:51
  Estella still sketching. The baroness is yelling commands
• 50:55
  at her while she's getting dressed.
• 50:57
  She can't stop and the cell is just sitting here sketching
• 50:59
  away. Yeah, the baroness is having her
• 51:02
  power nap and then they are off. They're off to get in the car
• 51:08
  and now she's eating this I live.
• 51:09
  So the sounds probably wilted a little bit.
• 51:12
  So she went through all this work and it's not even a fresh
• 51:15
  salad anymore. That was the greatest tragedy of
• 51:17
  this film. That this is a tragedy estella's
• 51:23
  sketching and the baroness loves to sketch.
• 51:27
  You know, she's actually kind of like oh this girl's actually
• 51:31
  can't, she's like she's putting her in put in but also accepting
• 51:35
  estella's Vision which is a good sign.
• 51:38
  If you're a Ella. Yeah, we get to the baroness's
• 51:41
  mansion and the baroness needs to start changing into another
• 51:46
  outfit but she doesn't give anyone a break.
• 51:49
  She's still yelling commands over to Estella while she's
• 51:52
  getting dressed telling her to make her dress fit like this and
• 51:58
  as. So let's just sketching away.
• 52:00
  Always sketching, always sketching.
• 52:02
  Always always sketching. The baroness is wearing this
• 52:07
  really brilliant. Gold dress.
• 52:09
  Her colors are definitely gold and Browns, dark greens.
• 52:15
  Yeah, they definitely are. They are burning coal.
• 52:18
  Jenny beavan wanted it's very much stand out from what would
• 52:24
  be, you know, Cruella's like black and white and it's also
• 52:29
  like she's a, she's a lady of matured years.
• 52:33
  So a little bit of brown and gold goes well with her.
• 52:37
  It looks good on her, she's always Giving me she feels very
• 52:41
  Dior inspired like it had about the Couture house earlier but
• 52:45
  she's giving me a lot of Dior Vibes, very chic, very put
• 52:49
  together and as they're talking Estella looks up and she's like
• 52:55
  oh that's weird! My mother's family heirloom is
• 52:59
  around This Woman's neck. Yeah.
• 53:04
  Weird coincidence. Yeah, she's like oh, excuse me.
• 53:08
  How did you come about that? And Emma, Thompson is like, oh,
• 53:14
  it's a family heirloom, this, this mate of mine tried to steal
• 53:19
  it but then she came back and I retrieved it and I just love her
• 53:26
  so she's like, no, she didn't steal it.
• 53:27
  And she's like, she immediately is like, oh wait, Wrong delivery
• 53:33
  and says that out loud. I'm just changing she did.
• 53:37
  Oh no, she knows she knows the truth.
• 53:40
  She knows the truth. Yeah, this whole thing was put
• 53:44
  together very quickly and astellas head, she knows how the
• 53:48
  whole night went right away. So before we leave the scene, I
• 53:53
  want to talk about estella's outfit.
• 53:54
  Real quick, though, she has these, she's wearing is all
• 53:57
  black outfit with these like crossbody straps.
• 54:01
  Maybe it's a lapel. Going across her chest again and
• 54:04
  that looks so good. It does.
• 54:06
  It does look so good. Estella runs home to go see
• 54:10
  Jasper and Horace and she was like oh remember that lady?
• 54:13
  I work for now, she killed me mum.
• 54:16
  Yeah she's dead. Yeah and instantly Horace is
• 54:22
  like well there's dangle and they get right to work.
• 54:26
  They do she's like she wants to be at that house now because she
• 54:30
  knows where they keep the jewels.
• 54:32
  Oh yeah, she doesn't hesitate for a second.
• 54:35
  So the next day at work or a couple days later at work, the
• 54:39
  baroness is laying down in this white gown using the Cucumbers
• 54:43
  from her very complicated salad. We go.
• 54:46
  Okay, you do this everyday, great to take a nine minute.
• 54:50
  Power nap, I believe is the time she set, which can you take a
• 54:53
  power nap in nine minutes? Elizabeth, I can barely take a
• 54:56
  powered off in an hour. Yeah, and a nine minute nap, I
• 54:59
  would feel like hell right after that.
• 55:03
  If I fall asleep during the day, I never feel ya.
• 55:06
  Great app store, water with me as I don't know how she's doing
• 55:11
  this every day. Estella's, wearing this great
• 55:14
  outfit with this gold metallic tie.
• 55:17
  Okay, this gold metallic Ty gave me flashbacks.
• 55:21
  So working to the job. I worked in college.
• 55:24
  Oh no. What do you do sold almost well
• 55:29
  actually, I don't think I ever sold it.
• 55:30
  I think it was still there so I do Very strange job in college.
• 55:34
  I really liked it, but it was very odd.
• 55:36
  We were like, kind of a secondhand store, but not
• 55:38
  really. But one of the things that just
• 55:41
  hung around forever was a tie that looked exactly like that.
• 55:46
  Oh my gosh, today the tie the tie but instead of like it being
• 55:51
  like a plate and then a bead, a plate and then Abby do is just
• 55:54
  like play after play after plate.
• 55:55
  And I'm like someone bought that it took it and they just
• 55:59
  replaced every other plate with beads.
• 56:01
  I was just And now it's on Emma Stone snack.
• 56:05
  Yeah. Would not be shocked if it was
• 56:08
  the same necklace but also really hope it's not as
• 56:12
  telescoping out the house. Trying to figure out where this
• 56:16
  family heirloom is, she's trying to like figure out the security
• 56:19
  system, like, who's we're like she's take she's getting in till
• 56:25
  on the baroness and there's this great Montage in here.
• 56:32
  Of how the baroness takes out people from her parties that she
• 56:39
  does that look like I love this thing.
• 56:42
  Like if they're not dressed, right?
• 56:44
  If they're too pretty, if they're too old a guard, just
• 56:48
  tackles them. Yeah, it's not like, excuse me,
• 56:51
  ma'am. I'm gonna have to ask you to
• 56:53
  leave. Its full-on football, tackle.
• 56:55
  Its football tackle, and I'm just like, how does this not
• 56:58
  create more of a scene? Thanks so much.
• 57:02
  How do you like not have people like saying declining
• 57:07
  invitations. All of this is in preparation
• 57:10
  for the infamous black and white party.
• 57:12
  Which I think this is one of my favorite scenes of the entire
• 57:16
  movie. My gosh, it is, it is so good.
• 57:20
  And they're like, okay, this is where we're going to make our
• 57:22
  move. Horace is gonna pose as like an
• 57:26
  exterminator to get into the room.
• 57:30
  We have to talk about the best costume of The entire movie.
• 57:33
  Yes, we'll get there Jasper, he's going to be like the
• 57:37
  techie. He's basically like their Tech
• 57:39
  Guy and Cruella's going to be the distraction.
• 57:45
  So they're like okay this is a heist movie now and it is great.
• 57:51
  And so this scene actually has what Jenny beavan considers to
• 58:00
  be her favorite. And I mean, I gotta say like,
• 58:04
  this is an extraordinary piece. It is well deserved to be her
• 58:09
  favorite costume. It is Winx rat outfit.
• 58:18
  I love that costume. So much.
• 58:20
  It is so cute. He's like the rat.
• 58:24
  Horse is supposed to be Exterminating.
• 58:27
  It's so cute. It's so cute.
• 58:30
  So cute and interview with Vanity Fair.
• 58:32
  She Was asked, she's like, she was asked like, you know, which
• 58:35
  of the looks. She felt that she liked the most
• 58:39
  and like, encapsulated her vibe. And she said, I quote from
• 58:43
  Vanity Fair article, I'm very fond of Winx rat costume.
• 58:49
  I am also very fond of that costume.
• 58:52
  He looks so cute. He looks she steals the scene
• 58:56
  really does until Emma Stone steals the scene.
• 59:00
  Yeah, but when he deserves his moment, I I want a dog just so I
• 59:03
  could dress them up as a rat. Yeah, fair that.
• 59:07
  It was very few. Have a dog in the other room.
• 59:09
  You can make this happen. That's not my dog, that's fair.
• 59:14
  But as you were saying, Emma Stone does kind of steal the
• 59:17
  scene though. Yes, she waits to come in till
• 59:23
  the last moment. She's wearing billowing.
• 59:27
  White Cape basically. And everyone turns to her
• 59:33
  because they're like oh who is this?
• 59:37
  She works at the mall. She drops a match.
• 59:41
  She lights and drops a match on to herself and I was like, oh my
• 59:44
  gosh! Where is this about to go?
• 59:47
  This is a Disney movie that white Cape burns up to reveal
• 59:54
  her beautiful red gown, which we have to have to go back a little
• 59:59
  bit, because one of the reasons she originally stopped and argue
• 1:00:02
  store was because part of this beautiful red gown was in the
• 1:00:09
  window as a baroness original. So she was like, I'm going to
• 1:00:14
  take this and she reworks it into something, she feels looks
• 1:00:20
  much better. And the dress is actually
• 1:00:24
  inspired by a Charles drink. Excuse me, Charles James tree
• 1:00:31
  dress. I have that Linked In My Notes
• 1:00:33
  if you want to take Look at it from 1955.
• 1:00:37
  It's it's beautiful. It has that same kind of very
• 1:00:40
  fitted. Fitted bodice that goes into
• 1:00:43
  almost like a mermaid skirt at the bottom.
• 1:00:47
  It's beautiful. It has like that.
• 1:00:49
  Um, that Twisted look and was named after one of his clients.
• 1:00:56
  So that was the inspiration for this one.
• 1:00:59
  It's a stunning. It's a stunning gown.
• 1:01:02
  Yeah, I love it. It's just it's just like like
• 1:01:05
  she likes, she likes her, her cape on fire, but then like she
• 1:01:10
  is the fire. She is, she's there to burn
• 1:01:14
  down. Estella is fire.
• 1:01:18
  Well I guess she's kind of In This Moment.
• 1:01:20
  Cruella she is grilling this moment.
• 1:01:22
  She's gone back to her original like black and white hair.
• 1:01:28
  She has she has the mask on so nobody can tell it's her.
• 1:01:34
  For some just like it's one of those things around like hat and
• 1:01:36
  uh well I the hair really, I guess puts you off.
• 1:01:40
  But I'm like is it really really that unnoticeable speaking of
• 1:01:45
  masks the baroness is also, worrying is sickening Alpha.
• 1:01:48
  She's wearing the screw really great black and white gown.
• 1:01:51
  Yeah, a matching kind of like you said.
• 1:01:53
  It's not a beehive but this really nice up.
• 1:01:56
  Do. Yes, Twisted black and white.
• 1:01:59
  Yes. And that trust was created by
• 1:02:06
  Bevin. And it was her assistant
• 1:02:10
  designer in Wallace that created a stylish dress for that scene.
• 1:02:18
  Congratulations, Ian Wallace because that's I think top
• 1:02:21
  three. One of my favorite costumes from
• 1:02:23
  this film. Yeah, I found that in an article
• 1:02:26
  from RTE. I didn't say like how it seems
• 1:02:31
  like their collaboration was pretty close.
• 1:02:34
  But I was like, ooh, look at you.
• 1:02:36
  I'm like, what else? But I'll see you doing.
• 1:02:39
  Oh, just one character do want to mention who's at the party,
• 1:02:42
  which is none other than Anita darling, who?
• 1:02:46
  Yes, a small role. But every time you see her, she
• 1:02:49
  really just kind of captures the camera.
• 1:02:51
  She's beautiful like popped up like right before I Stella walks
• 1:02:54
  in and it's like the baroness clearly knows her she's like I
• 1:02:59
  guess the Pyaar mein PR person for the baroness.
• 1:03:04
  Just through a series of unfortunate for your choices on
• 1:03:10
  Anita's part. But like she's, you know, she's
• 1:03:15
  in dress code but she has a tiny little like blue spot on her
• 1:03:19
  bag, right? And the baroness like is like,
• 1:03:23
  can't have this. And she's like, that's, I need
• 1:03:25
  that for my work and she's like, that's no excuse and I was like,
• 1:03:29
  oh hmm. Fair enough.
• 1:03:31
  So this party is extravagant. It looks amazing, but things
• 1:03:35
  quickly. Go haywire when Horace gets
• 1:03:38
  captured. Yes, but wink, that's get away.
• 1:03:41
  So we have Surat situation. Yeah so you know as far as
• 1:03:48
  creating a distraction and basically beating up her
• 1:03:50
  security team while Horace is breaking into the jewel Vault
• 1:03:56
  with, with Jasper's assistance and things are, just not going
• 1:04:01
  well, because Jasper are is constantly being The Siege by
• 1:04:06
  rats. So, when Horace gets captured,
• 1:04:10
  he takes those rats because he's stressed as a Say as a waiter he
• 1:04:13
  takes the rats upstairs in a little, you know, covered plate,
• 1:04:19
  puts it in front of the baroness and Estella opens it up to
• 1:04:24
  reveal the rats and create utter chaos in which they escape
• 1:04:28
  chaos. I mean this and this isn't even
• 1:04:31
  estella's. First time, Korean chaos of the
• 1:04:33
  house, a baroness at the Mansion of the billionaire, entire
• 1:04:38
  security Squad, she did with the cane, I was like, Well is she
• 1:04:43
  really that strong? You guys can't grab her right,
• 1:04:46
  but things go quickly. A mess and in the chaos buddy
• 1:04:54
  estella's dog, grabs the heirloom.
• 1:04:58
  But then the baroness grabs her dog whistle and she then summons
• 1:05:02
  The Rage of these evil-looking Dalmatians.
• 1:05:05
  And can that moment these poor poor Dalmatians but it's in this
• 1:05:10
  moment that Cruella. Ella realizes that the baroness
• 1:05:14
  is responsible for killing as Stella's mom.
• 1:05:17
  Yes, she is. Horrified, as was, I, I was
• 1:05:21
  like, these are some scary looking death, but, um, In that
• 1:05:27
  same chaos, the dogs end up eating the heirloom necklace.
• 1:05:33
  I know it was like no that was that was like gotta I guess we
• 1:05:38
  gotta kidnap the dogs now and she's like, okay we gotta create
• 1:05:43
  a plan but then you know the baroness is pissed so they end
• 1:05:48
  up getting in a car chase. Then again, that's that's a car
• 1:05:52
  chase except they're not really being chased.
• 1:05:54
  Yeah. But as Gorillas driving like the
• 1:05:57
  entire worlds after her but so she's just speeding through the
• 1:06:00
  Streets of London and a car that's very similar to the car.
• 1:06:04
  We know from the cartoons, the Cruella de Vil car.
• 1:06:08
  Yes. And krill just hops out of their
• 1:06:12
  turns around to Jasper and Horace and it's like she killed
• 1:06:16
  my mom and things are about to get real dark real.
• 1:06:20
  Real dark. I think before things get too
• 1:06:23
  dark, maybe you and I should take a break.
• 1:06:26
  I know I need a little bit of dinner.
• 1:06:27
  I'm hungry. Okay, it's Elizabeth's, can go
• 1:06:31
  get her dinner and we'll get back to work.
• 1:06:53
  Remember back from break and Elizabeth.
• 1:06:56
  It's the morning after the black and white party.
• 1:06:59
  It is it is and she is like she's Cruella now.
• 1:07:04
  He's out for Revenge. Estella is no longer in the
• 1:07:08
  chat. It's full Cruella right now.
• 1:07:10
  Yeah, she's just like, mmm, this is here to stay and we got to
• 1:07:16
  steal those dogs. Horace is in, Jasper has
• 1:07:20
  reservation but he's supporting his girl just for definitely has
• 1:07:25
  reservations but you know Krill has kind of a persuasive person
• 1:07:30
  so he's going to go for it. Kirill has wearing this all
• 1:07:34
  Black vinyl outfit and she's doing that contrasting red
• 1:07:38
  lipstick kind of giving me Edward Scissorhands Vibes at
• 1:07:41
  this moment. She's like this is where she's
• 1:07:45
  clearly first like a little unhinged like I definitely
• 1:07:51
  Edward Scissorhands Vibes. But like with that red lip, I
• 1:07:54
  kind of get Joker Vibes, especially when she goes to give
• 1:07:58
  a little visit visit to Anita and she is just a little like
• 1:08:07
  Not not in a great space. No she really stands out when
• 1:08:11
  she visits Anita darling. She's basically like hey I know
• 1:08:15
  you're tired of covering the baroness.
• 1:08:18
  I think it's time I give you some stuff.
• 1:08:20
  Yeah and to actually cover I thought that in a nicer way but
• 1:08:24
  and she's like I'll give you some better stuff to cover and
• 1:08:27
  like we're going to have fun doing it.
• 1:08:30
  Oh yeah. And this takes us into a weird
• 1:08:33
  couple scenes. First we With the Dalmatians.
• 1:08:38
  Having a really quite lovely spa day.
• 1:08:40
  Yeah. Is it like those dogs?
• 1:08:41
  No wonder they kill on command. If they are pampered, they're
• 1:08:45
  pampered. They're having like their whole
• 1:08:47
  spa day. They have little bubbles on
• 1:08:49
  their head, they look really cute.
• 1:08:53
  Like I was like, oh, hello. You want to plant this and with
• 1:08:59
  the help of wink, our favorite, dog, horse isn't kidnapping the
• 1:09:05
  dogs along with Jasper. I just don't know, I can't
• 1:09:08
  remember Jasper's. They, I keep thinking, like, who
• 1:09:12
  Kelis? He's almost man horse does bring
• 1:09:16
  up the fact that he feels like, you know, you've heard that
• 1:09:19
  saying that owners sometimes look like their dogs.
• 1:09:22
  Do you feel like that's to be true?
• 1:09:24
  Um, Yes or no? Like I would say that's more
• 1:09:31
  true for fancy dogs. Like, I feel like the more money
• 1:09:36
  you put into obtaining, your animal, the more likely, they
• 1:09:39
  are to look like you. That's a fair statement.
• 1:09:43
  I don't know. I have lots of thoughts and
• 1:09:47
  feelings about purchasing and I'm adopted.
• 1:09:51
  Don't buy adopt, support. Your local ASPCA.
• 1:09:56
  Preferably support your local. No-kill shelter, exactly.
• 1:10:01
  Acrylic takes this time to go visit our T1 less time already.
• 1:10:05
  Doesn't realize that Estella and krill are the same person
• 1:10:09
  because he's like, oh, wow, it's you and Carlos, like it's still.
• 1:10:16
  Alright, you take a second to talk about our T's makeup.
• 1:10:19
  I love Artie. He's great.
• 1:10:22
  However, there are two or three Times in this film where he only
• 1:10:27
  has eye makeup on one eye. It is the most distracting thing
• 1:10:31
  ever. Just look I'm just like, like
• 1:10:37
  where's his other? I like it just blood because
• 1:10:41
  they're both wearing like very pale foundation, very Punk,
• 1:10:46
  which is fine, but I'm like, he has one eye whereas the other
• 1:10:49
  one like it distracted, me so badly.
• 1:10:55
  This is a very kind of inspired by Ziggy Stardust from the 1970s
• 1:11:00
  David Bowie would sometimes only where, you know, the eye makeup
• 1:11:04
  on one side of his face, that is definitely what they're going
• 1:11:07
  for. I mean, I'm sure however, my
• 1:11:13
  Elizabeth Tendencies doesn't like, oh yeah, my poor sculpture
• 1:11:21
  teacher in high school. She was constantly making me do
• 1:11:25
  things a certain Symmetrically. My just wanted everything to
• 1:11:29
  like, these are balanced. It's fair to say that Elizabeth
• 1:11:35
  to not corrupt in a 1970s Punk. Resolution to be in Westwood and
• 1:11:40
  David Bowie, know the Sex Pistols.
• 1:11:44
  I didn't I didn't. It was very distracting to me.
• 1:11:51
  Well I think Artie looks great in this snakeskin.
• 1:11:54
  Top do this Our. Yes, this costume is brilliant.
• 1:11:58
  His outfits on point, like, you walk into his store and it's
• 1:12:02
  like, oh yes, of course, he's the owner.
• 1:12:04
  Why? There's never any question about
• 1:12:08
  what he does and how he does it. This brings us back to the
• 1:12:11
  baroness and she's kind of really pissed.
• 1:12:14
  She's like everyone's been laughing at me, over his korilla
• 1:12:17
  thing. Little does a baroness know that
• 1:12:21
  karela is about to really take things up and temperature.
• 1:12:25
  Yeah. She's, like, she's annoyed.
• 1:12:28
  But it's like, oh, honey. This is only the beginning.
• 1:12:31
  So we end up at this red carpet. The baroness is in this giant
• 1:12:35
  white gown with this, Liberace type collar, it's huge behind
• 1:12:39
  her, and she's really stealing the show.
• 1:12:42
  But then she hears a motorcycle and a distance.
• 1:12:46
  The baroness is stealing the show at a red carpet.
• 1:12:49
  She's wearing this white gown with just huge.
• 1:12:52
  Liberace type moment behind her. Oh my gosh.
• 1:12:55
  This was really like like talked about like Dior inspired and was
• 1:13:02
  also very um hold on. Let me look at his up his name
• 1:13:06
  real quick. I just this is probably perfect.
• 1:13:10
  Charles Frederick worth. Oh yeah.
• 1:13:13
  That there was something. I was like yeah it's very do or
• 1:13:15
  but there was something else to it.
• 1:13:17
  Very Charles Frederick worth like with that just the opulence
• 1:13:23
  of it, the sleeve. Yeah, I totally see what you're
• 1:13:26
  saying, it's very that, it's that next with the your, it's
• 1:13:31
  beautiful. Beautiful, very beautiful.
• 1:13:34
  I'm like, can I have that? We're thinking at this moment,
• 1:13:37
  how can the baroness be upstaged?
• 1:13:40
  The karela has something in mind.
• 1:13:42
  She shows up in a motorcycle, which something that I feel like
• 1:13:47
  we're going to be talking about, on the show.
• 1:13:49
  Is how motorcycles and make people look more attractive?
• 1:13:53
  Oh yes. Oh yes, Krillin gets off of this
• 1:13:59
  motorcycle. She's has this, she's looking
• 1:14:02
  hot, Smoky, she has this makeup. Look, that says to Future.
• 1:14:08
  Yeah, and she, she is The future.
• 1:14:10
  She is like I'm just here to make a statement and leave.
• 1:14:13
  She gets out of there in her. I might like that motorcycle
• 1:14:17
  jacket, all the like the embossing on it.
• 1:14:20
  The like big shoulders. I was like, yes girl, that the
• 1:14:24
  pants with like the gold sequins and the black stripes I was
• 1:14:29
  like, oh my gosh, like jacket, is it?
• 1:14:33
  It is a, I'm like can I please have this her sparkly red?
• 1:14:40
  Blair. So like I love you know me, I
• 1:14:43
  love a good red lip so I love how much they leaned into that.
• 1:14:46
  Do you do like a good red lip? And she's there, she steals the
• 1:14:51
  scene and she like you said, she just leaves she steals.
• 1:14:54
  The scene leaves has this huge like visual effects moment on
• 1:14:58
  the side of the building, where they're meeting.
• 1:15:01
  That's right. So we cut to another scene and a
• 1:15:05
  baroness is Gary, get out of her car for this, Paparazzi moment
• 1:15:09
  and Jasper and Horace walk up to the car and throw like a large
• 1:15:18
  seat belt around. Car lock the baroness inside.
• 1:15:22
  I'm just like II feel like that's what they like put on
• 1:15:25
  like new cars when they're transporting them without like
• 1:15:28
  somebody being in their driving. Um yeah I was like get one of
• 1:15:32
  those. No you don't their car has
• 1:15:35
  enough problems. Oh my gosh my parents fine.
• 1:15:40
  Is it fine now? Is it by now?
• 1:15:43
  Spencer, it's going to be fine. That's what I thought.
• 1:15:49
  And Cruella gets a top of this car and this is my favorite
• 1:15:53
  costume of the entire fill my gosh.
• 1:15:55
  Yes. Okay you describe it I have
• 1:15:58
  notes. She's standing on top of it and
• 1:16:01
  this black leather jacket. She has a lot of bells moments
• 1:16:04
  on the shoulder and this large just can caving a red and black
• 1:16:09
  tulle gown. That just covers the car she
• 1:16:12
  snaps open. The scroll that says the past
• 1:16:15
  and it lays right next to and the baroness.
• 1:16:19
  The car why she looks so good. So strong and that like,
• 1:16:23
  military jacket with all the, it reminded me very much of her.
• 1:16:30
  It's like a call back to her school uniform.
• 1:16:32
  Oh yeah, yes, this is the establishment.
• 1:16:35
  But I am more than the establishment.
• 1:16:37
  I know how to make them better. I love this costume.
• 1:16:41
  It's so beautiful. So this was apparently like the
• 1:16:45
  hardest one to make. She brought an Australian
• 1:16:51
  patternmaker Christine Fletcher as the the chief pattern cutter
• 1:16:58
  and she is actually notable for her wearable art.i.
• 1:17:03
  Jenny said they just had like tons of students and interns
• 1:17:08
  cutting out those petals putting it together interview, RT, e--
• 1:17:15
  quotes r. As I felt half sick, Rather
• 1:17:18
  proud whenever I looked at it, I just, she was like so much work
• 1:17:24
  went into this that it was just like apparently just like
• 1:17:27
  exhausting to look at. But also like that is a feat
• 1:17:30
  because she said it was really hard to because they had to make
• 1:17:33
  it light enough for her to be able to do that.
• 1:17:37
  So it was just, that's a feat of engineering.
• 1:17:40
  Wait right there. Literally, like you said, it's
• 1:17:42
  wearable art. It is.
• 1:17:44
  Art is Art. It's, it's gorgeous.
• 1:17:47
  It's like I just, I was speechless when I saw it, I just
• 1:17:52
  thought this whole thing was just brilliant.
• 1:17:53
  It was it doesn't look like to me.
• 1:17:56
  I mean, I'm sure it's light enough for you get up on top of
• 1:17:58
  the car, but that looks like it weighs a good 2,000 pounds.
• 1:18:02
  So it looks like it, but apparently not, apparently it
• 1:18:04
  was just, I mean, Emma Stone made up on top of a car.
• 1:18:09
  So made it up and it's like, the way.
• 1:18:12
  Oh gosh, it's brilliant. Just the way it lays over.
• 1:18:15
  She said, she wanted it to look like Opera curtains.
• 1:18:18
  With Emma Thompson, the baroness just peeking out.
• 1:18:21
  It's like know the curtains closed on you.
• 1:18:25
  You don't need to go back at the house.
• 1:18:29
  The baroness, the baroness is pissed.
• 1:18:32
  She like she just said she's annoyed that.
• 1:18:36
  She feels like everyone's laughing at her and now
• 1:18:38
  Guerrilla has pulled out all these fashionable stunts.
• 1:18:41
  She's acting now, she's ripping out newspapers from people's
• 1:18:45
  hands are looking at pictures of gorillas.
• 1:18:48
  She's pissed, but after he's so mad.
• 1:18:51
  But while she's being all mad about this, Estella keeps going
• 1:18:56
  to work. All right?
• 1:18:59
  Like that was the best part to me.
• 1:19:01
  It wasn't like, she just like up and disappear.
• 1:19:03
  She's like, no, no, I got to play the long con.
• 1:19:05
  Yeah, she's back at work. Wearing her little red wig, just
• 1:19:09
  working away, being a little busy bee.
• 1:19:11
  Yeah. So now we're zooming in on this
• 1:19:13
  moment where the bareness is wearing this crazy black and
• 1:19:17
  white. Outfit.
• 1:19:18
  She's wearing is a black wig. I have to admit, I like the
• 1:19:22
  costume, but the black wig was really unsettling.
• 1:19:25
  For me. It was a choice.
• 1:19:30
  It was a choice. It's a choice.
• 1:19:32
  I just, I'm not saying it was a bad choice, but I just was not
• 1:19:35
  ready for this black wig. I don't think any of us were,
• 1:19:41
  but a dump truck pulls out and who pops out of the dumps track
• 1:19:45
  Cruella. I love this.
• 1:19:49
  Look, she made a large train on this dress made out of trash
• 1:19:56
  trash. And I'm just like, at this
• 1:19:59
  point. I'm like, how do you not
• 1:20:00
  realize? This is a Stella, like, right?
• 1:20:04
  Very trashy, very trashy, like, but beautiful and it reminded me
• 1:20:14
  of, like, A lot of what you see like people do now especially
• 1:20:19
  like I guess college student when we were in college.
• 1:20:22
  A lot of people using paper and just like things they find to
• 1:20:30
  like to make these beautiful avant-garde pieces and Jenny
• 1:20:38
  beavan. She was really in one of the
• 1:20:40
  interviews. She says, she wanted, she loves
• 1:20:43
  that like you know, this is something people.
• 1:20:46
  Sorry we're doing. And even though it is a period
• 1:20:48
  P, she wanted to bring like that Spirit of people, like DIY and
• 1:20:53
  reusing things into the film. I love the the idea of you think
• 1:20:58
  sustainability which is something that I think a lot
• 1:21:01
  more designers should be thinking about yeah.
• 1:21:04
  Especially right now. Yeah, you can make something out
• 1:21:08
  of anything and no one knows that better than karela.
• 1:21:11
  Oh yes, she had to work with nothing for years.
• 1:21:17
  So the baroness is in the car with our good friend.
• 1:21:21
  Roger, the baroness is wearing this incredible houndstooth
• 1:21:25
  pattern. It looks good.
• 1:21:27
  I love it. And she fires Roger and I mostly
• 1:21:32
  I'm not really positive why I know poor Roger like and she
• 1:21:38
  like dis is on him for playing the piano a lot and is like, oh
• 1:21:43
  but he's a great lawyer but we never get to See him be a great
• 1:21:47
  lawyer. All right.
• 1:21:50
  How would I know? I don't remember why she fires
• 1:21:53
  them. I only do it was just kind of
• 1:21:56
  like why you're fired like him and those two like department
• 1:22:01
  store Executives. We see one like he's first
• 1:22:04
  introduced, like I'm like, what was the point of these people?
• 1:22:08
  We may need to dive deeper into those characters.
• 1:22:11
  Yeah, but she's getting ready for Her fashion hurt her newest
• 1:22:18
  fashion show. She needs a statement piece.
• 1:22:21
  A signature piece that's going to be on the runway.
• 1:22:24
  Yes. And challenges all four
• 1:22:26
  designers that come up with a piece and I think it's safe to
• 1:22:30
  say that Stella came out with a pretty groundbreaking gown.
• 1:22:34
  Oh yes. It is beautiful.
• 1:22:37
  It is covered in beads. It reminds me a lot of like,
• 1:22:40
  those like Armory look in dresses.
• 1:22:43
  Oh yeah. People were like, For into a
• 1:22:46
  couple of years ago. It is the beautiful it kind of
• 1:22:51
  gave me like a McQueen Vibe. Yes very like Crystal jeweled
• 1:22:56
  then also remind me of this one that look that Bjork did back in
• 1:23:01
  the day. Was she wore this dress like out
• 1:23:03
  of bells? Yeah, it is beautiful but I
• 1:23:07
  wonder if you caught this so she has special beating delivered.
• 1:23:11
  And Horace is the delivery man and the baroness look.
• 1:23:16
  Looks at him like I know you and I think that's like her first
• 1:23:21
  hint that like estella's, not on the up and up.
• 1:23:26
  Oh, I was fairly confident at this moment that she knew
• 1:23:29
  exactly is Stella was Corolla. I don't think she knew quite
• 1:23:33
  yet. I think it took her a little
• 1:23:35
  bit, that could be, but she sees, I think she recognizes
• 1:23:39
  Horace from the black and white party.
• 1:23:42
  Yeah, that's the guy that was chasing the dog dressed up as a
• 1:23:44
  rat. Absolutely.
• 1:23:48
  She knows something's up but uh right now is tell us her best
• 1:23:52
  designer, so they're going to lunch.
• 1:23:55
  Yeah, I mean, even that dress before it was jeweled still
• 1:23:59
  looked amazing. I love to see it.
• 1:24:02
  Don't even need a jewels of my opinion, but once those are on
• 1:24:04
  there, obviously was amazing. And the baroness takes a Stella
• 1:24:08
  to lunch to celebrate herself. She's not celebrating Estella.
• 1:24:13
  No, not a cell is good work. It's her good work.
• 1:24:16
  Exactly, which this is something that we're going to talk about
• 1:24:19
  at the end of this episode. The idea of taking credit for
• 1:24:23
  other people's work, has been a theme, a lot of costume
• 1:24:26
  designers and we're gonna get into that.
• 1:24:29
  And it also highlights something that's common practice in the
• 1:24:32
  fashion industry. Is these Brands, they usually do
• 1:24:36
  have like, you know, a head designer and or like these
• 1:24:40
  fashion houses, they have a head designer.
• 1:24:42
  That person is not sketching out in designing every single piece.
• 1:24:46
  They have a team of designers and they are approving.
• 1:24:50
  Looks like exactly there are more of a creative director than
• 1:24:54
  an actual designer. Totally.
• 1:24:57
  You're 100% right. I have a lot of feelings on this
• 1:25:00
  will probably talk about this, a little later.
• 1:25:02
  And today's podcast, will probably talk about it a lot
• 1:25:05
  because we have quite a few friends in the fashion industry.
• 1:25:10
  Oh, yeah. And I could tell you stories and
• 1:25:11
  stories of costume designers being ripped off for their work.
• 1:25:16
  But I have to, I can't leave the scene without talking about the
• 1:25:20
  moment where the baroness just pops this cork off and they got
• 1:25:23
  a nice finish. I've gotta say like that for her
• 1:25:28
  being in the service industry that is like, I felt that you
• 1:25:34
  felt the cork in the face. I felt the cork in the face.
• 1:25:39
  I so I felt that I felt that that just utter disrespect.
• 1:25:43
  So a couple days later, The baroness learns to find that
• 1:25:48
  someone tried to break in to the house of baroness.
• 1:25:52
  And her precious collection is locked inside, a very sturdy
• 1:25:57
  looking safe. Yeah.
• 1:25:59
  She's like, we can't have people get into this.
• 1:26:02
  They clearly were trying to destroy the collection and she
• 1:26:05
  puts them in the wall. This poses to be a problem later
• 1:26:09
  on. Yeah, I just want to bring up
• 1:26:12
  one costume. We see Estella sketching in,
• 1:26:16
  Kind of inverted black and white vest and she looks amazing.
• 1:26:20
  Yeah, like one should like she looks great through the whole
• 1:26:24
  thing, but once she's Cruella like, like, it's all, it's all
• 1:26:28
  out there. So you know, ice ice and
• 1:26:31
  repetitive of every look. This is amazing.
• 1:26:33
  That's brilliant. But literally Jenny beavan
• 1:26:36
  costume designer. Every look in this film.
• 1:26:38
  It's amazing isn't brilliant. So good, so good.
• 1:26:42
  But she's working away. And also by this This point she
• 1:26:46
  has recruited already. Yeah, to help her create her own
• 1:26:51
  fashion show. She has her own, not like
• 1:26:54
  Couture house, and this is shoveled building that they've
• 1:26:58
  been living in. Like they are putting it
• 1:27:00
  together and it is the first big fuck you to the baroness because
• 1:27:08
  the time of her fashion show comes and they can't get out of
• 1:27:13
  all the vault. Still locked and they're
• 1:27:19
  struggling really hard to open up the Vault and when they do
• 1:27:24
  something terrible happens that I almost don't even want to
• 1:27:27
  watch. I so this I this made me very
• 1:27:32
  uncomfortable. I don't know if it was
• 1:27:35
  butterflies or moths but they all come flying out of the Vault
• 1:27:41
  terrifying, the guests of her show that they Spill out onto
• 1:27:47
  the street, the baroness sees that it was a Stella's gown that
• 1:27:51
  wasn't beating those were cocoons.
• 1:27:55
  Oh, gross. Like oh, like her show is
• 1:27:58
  destroyed. I hate bugs.
• 1:28:00
  But on top of that, we start to see lights.
• 1:28:03
  We hear music Cruella de Vil has set up her Punk fashion show,
• 1:28:10
  right, across from the house of Baron ass.
• 1:28:15
  I mean, I Since I saw the lights, I was like, I want to be
• 1:28:18
  there. The green and red kind of
• 1:28:20
  lighting they did. In this show was so attractive.
• 1:28:24
  It was, it was so great. The models are like, they're
• 1:28:28
  dancing, making everything look good Jasper's, like he's
• 1:28:33
  conflicted by the situation, but man, is he playing the guitar?
• 1:28:37
  Oh my God, he's killing it. He's shredding, he's killing it.
• 1:28:41
  Already is killing it because I think he already singing right
• 1:28:44
  eye. I don't know.
• 1:28:46
  I think he's singing. We see karela and is a black and
• 1:28:50
  white gown with a Dalmatian Prince with a Dalmatian print.
• 1:28:54
  Oh, All of this because I didn't think they were going to break
• 1:28:58
  out the dalmatian jacket. Yeah, I was like, oh, they're
• 1:29:02
  gonna save that because before I watched, I heard it already been
• 1:29:05
  approved for a sequel. I was like, oh, they're going to
• 1:29:08
  save that for the next one because like, you don't see it
• 1:29:11
  in like any other promotions and I'm like, oh, like they're just
• 1:29:15
  gonna they're gonna wait. But no, it is.
• 1:29:19
  It looks like straight up down Nation for the other.
• 1:29:22
  The rest of it is this like, I don't think it was leather.
• 1:29:26
  But it was just this, like, gorgeous black fabric.
• 1:29:29
  It has this like shawl type collar.
• 1:29:33
  Going over her shoulders. It she's working it.
• 1:29:37
  I'm not a fan of her hair, but, you know, it's great.
• 1:29:41
  I also love these little glove. She keeps wearing, like, the
• 1:29:44
  thrill. I love the little half, Club
• 1:29:47
  Swift a little see-through frill.
• 1:29:50
  Yeah, it's so good. And the baroness, the baroness
• 1:29:54
  sees this and is immediately She murdered my dog's my full-on
• 1:30:01
  dead right now and she's wearing them.
• 1:30:03
  That's yeah, that's what she thinks little does she know?
• 1:30:07
  They're just waiting for those dogs to crap out the necklace
• 1:30:12
  and the show unfortunately gets broken up by the police.
• 1:30:16
  Yeah, I mean things are getting unruly here, but this is a great
• 1:30:20
  fashion show and I love when she's running away.
• 1:30:23
  She just pops into like, To get food.
• 1:30:27
  She just like a log out, a little, a little snack before I
• 1:30:31
  go home. She grabs a little snack at the
• 1:30:34
  same time, our friends, Jasper and Horace and the dogs are
• 1:30:39
  being captured. Yeah.
• 1:30:41
  And korilla gets back to the home and the guess who's waiting
• 1:30:46
  there for her, the baroness? Yes, with her boys.
• 1:30:49
  With them boys, with the boys. She's like, I'm gonna frame
• 1:30:53
  these two, for your murder. I am gonna burn you alive.
• 1:30:59
  So things escalated quickly, it's like, oh my gosh, like did
• 1:31:07
  not expect this. I thought this was the end of
• 1:31:09
  the movie. I was like, hold on.
• 1:31:14
  Are there still like an hour left?
• 1:31:16
  I know terrible. But yeah, I was pretty shook by
• 1:31:19
  this. I was not expecting things
• 1:31:21
  escalate so quickly, so the fire is real.
• 1:31:26
  It burns everything down. She's stuck buddies.
• 1:31:30
  Trying to get her and, and Winks trying to get her out but they
• 1:31:34
  just can't do it. I just have to say, even when
• 1:31:38
  the entire building is burning down and astellas likes trucks,
• 1:31:42
  as she's struggling on the ground.
• 1:31:45
  She still looks good. Oh yeah, even in a burning
• 1:31:49
  building, Estella / karela looks amazing.
• 1:31:52
  She looks amazing through the fog of smoke at her slowly dying
• 1:31:59
  of smoke inhalation. She sees a thicker coming for
• 1:32:03
  her. Yes.
• 1:32:05
  And with That I think we're going to take a break and when
• 1:32:09
  we come back, we're going to finish up karela.
• 1:32:11
  Yeah, it's down to the juicy part.
• 1:32:14
  We're getting to the end everyone.
• 1:32:15
  Stay with us. So, we are back and some is
• 1:32:40
  karela. She was saved.
• 1:32:41
  She was saved. So it turns out John, the valet
• 1:32:46
  who we haven't talked about most of the, this episode, The, he's
• 1:32:51
  always there in the background. Around.
• 1:32:53
  He's like the baroness's little henchmen, like making sure her
• 1:32:57
  will gets done. Sure.
• 1:32:59
  Forrest Gump of this movie is always there.
• 1:33:02
  He's always there. You think he's evil turns out.
• 1:33:07
  He's the only person in the world, aside from Jasper and
• 1:33:12
  Horace who cares about Cruella and we said unknown, he has such
• 1:33:17
  a kind face. It was so true.
• 1:33:20
  It's like, how can Merlin from The Kingsmen A bad guy like this
• 1:33:26
  must be Merlin side job. So John the valet has a
• 1:33:35
  heart-to-heart with karela, it's like, oh, by the way, here's
• 1:33:39
  your heirloom. Yeah, it's from your mother.
• 1:33:41
  And turns out things are a little bit different than we had
• 1:33:46
  suspected. Yeah, he shows her her birth
• 1:33:51
  certificate and she's like This isn't right and he's like, oh
• 1:33:54
  yes. Well, you see.
• 1:33:58
  The baroness is your mother. Mmm, it's like a Luke Skywalker
• 1:34:02
  moment except Darth Vader's like a evil fashion designer.
• 1:34:05
  Exactly. And she's like, no.
• 1:34:08
  And he's like, yeah, she's a selfish narcissistic person and
• 1:34:16
  while your father was really excited to have a kid.
• 1:34:19
  Her, not so much but okay. Her father doted on the
• 1:34:25
  baroness. Gave her that heirloom as like,
• 1:34:27
  a thanks for getting prager's little gift and so kind, so the
• 1:34:36
  baroness Basques and his affection.
• 1:34:40
  Until when he goes out of town she gives birth hands the baby
• 1:34:46
  off to John the valet and is like take care of this AK
• 1:34:51
  murder. My Child, he's not okay with
• 1:34:55
  this. He also does not know what to do
• 1:34:58
  until he sees the woman who would be Cruella's mother and
• 1:35:02
  calls her. The sweetest woman who ever
• 1:35:04
  lived, she takes her Wella smuggles her out and decides to
• 1:35:10
  raise her as her own child. Imagine Learning all of that.
• 1:35:15
  In that moment, I mean she has an appropriate reaction.
• 1:35:19
  Yeah. Mines.
• 1:35:20
  It's kind of like, I have to say she handled it better than Luke
• 1:35:25
  Skywalker, did in his Star Wars. Yeah, she didn't have a full
• 1:35:28
  know. She was actually, like, I'm
• 1:35:31
  gonna get on my scooter and go to the park, to have a
• 1:35:34
  conversation with my real mom. We're gonna go see mother now
• 1:35:39
  and not that mother. The other mother know, so she
• 1:35:43
  goes and is like, I'm very upset to the Fountain and her mother
• 1:35:48
  and is like, well, Estella, I'm not a Stella anymore, I was
• 1:35:53
  never a Stella. I am deciding to be Cruella and
• 1:35:57
  I need to get revenge but I still love you Mom.
• 1:36:02
  Sorry Mom, but you're not here to tell me anything.
• 1:36:04
  Also, you're not my real mom, so your mother but she's wearing my
• 1:36:09
  black coat in this moment. Oh my gosh.
• 1:36:12
  She still looks very chic even though she literally was
• 1:36:15
  Survived the fire not too long ago, surprise a fire Steels, a
• 1:36:20
  motorcycle, stolen motorcycle, and we check in on the baroness
• 1:36:28
  and she's pissed again this time because they cannot find Crow
• 1:36:32
  has body and that burnt-up heap of a home.
• 1:36:35
  Yeah, the police chief is like, I don't know what you're talking
• 1:36:38
  about, there was nobody nobody, it's like, sorry you jump the
• 1:36:44
  gun because all of Of the news stations reported.
• 1:36:48
  That Cruella was dead. There were like oh so sad.
• 1:36:51
  Brilliant Young Artists gone. Yeah.
• 1:36:55
  Just like another headline. That's just passes away.
• 1:36:58
  Yes. But Kerala, she's like, well now
• 1:37:03
  I really got to get revenge on my mother because Guerrilla has
• 1:37:08
  some big. No go ahead.
• 1:37:09
  Oh, because like during like this whole little while, John's
• 1:37:12
  revealing everything he's like, um, FYI You were the real heir
• 1:37:17
  to the entire estate after your father died.
• 1:37:20
  So she's like, oh she didn't eat.
• 1:37:22
  She did just try to kill me. She tried to take all my money.
• 1:37:26
  Okay, she wants her money. She wants her money, but she
• 1:37:31
  needs her boys. She sees the boy if she's a boy
• 1:37:35
  she has not been treating them. Well, this whole time, she knows
• 1:37:38
  Jasper's upset with her because Jasper wants her to do better.
• 1:37:42
  I feel like Jasper's kind of sick of this life of crime.
• 1:37:45
  I'm and is like, let's like let's be better.
• 1:37:49
  So with the help of wink because the dog survived the dog,
• 1:37:54
  survived the fire. Everybody don't thank God, he
• 1:37:57
  passed away in a fire. I was going to turn to shit.
• 1:38:00
  I thought he was gonna die. I was like the to him and him
• 1:38:04
  and Link, made it all the fire as well and they're ready to
• 1:38:08
  help her. Get the boys out of jail cutest
• 1:38:13
  cutest jail escape ever. The cutest.
• 1:38:17
  I'm obsessed of these dogs every time I see them.
• 1:38:19
  I'm like I know stealing the scene.
• 1:38:23
  I know. And then she gets the boys out
• 1:38:28
  and they come out, she's in the dump truck and she has the
• 1:38:32
  mustache off. Where's enough fooling?
• 1:38:37
  Anybody she's like a mustache and a cap on and it's like,
• 1:38:41
  great disguise. It's clearly just Emma Stone
• 1:38:44
  with a mustache. There was the one little Easter
• 1:38:50
  egg. I want to bring you up when
• 1:38:52
  Jasper and horse are in a jail cell.
• 1:38:54
  They're kind of like, waiting for someone to bring them the
• 1:38:58
  key and just like in Pirates of the Caribbean, the dog walks up
• 1:39:02
  and kind of gives them the key through the jail cell, which I
• 1:39:05
  thought was a cute little reference.
• 1:39:07
  That is a door of I did not make that connection.
• 1:39:10
  I don't know if that's what they intended but that's what I
• 1:39:12
  thought of. I mean buddy does look like
• 1:39:15
  that, dog. I mean, it's not buddy.
• 1:39:17
  That brings them the key but no, but the references there.
• 1:39:23
  The code that Jasper is wearing is incredible.
• 1:39:26
  I love this coat. Yeah.
• 1:39:28
  Horse is wearing this really great, Punk jacket that I'm
• 1:39:31
  obsessed with. Also there are stepping up their
• 1:39:34
  fashion at the end of this movie.
• 1:39:36
  Oh they are they really are. But I think it's just so they
• 1:39:38
  can keep being in karelis family.
• 1:39:42
  Yeah, there's a lot of expectations going around right
• 1:39:46
  now. Yeah, so she gets out of jail.
• 1:39:49
  She explains the whole situation to them and is like got to bring
• 1:39:53
  On the baroness still and Jasper's like what not?
• 1:39:56
  Please like I'm done. She's like, what y'all my
• 1:40:01
  family? And I'm sorry and I love you
• 1:40:04
  guys and he's like, no. Okay, like ballot that like took
• 1:40:09
  no convincing whatsoever very easily.
• 1:40:12
  Convince Jasper, is he has a hard time saying?
• 1:40:14
  No, yeah, so she can like, no, okay, yeah, she gets them on
• 1:40:19
  board. Then she goes to visit our
• 1:40:21
  Archie and her Stash. Artie, Artie.
• 1:40:25
  Oh my gosh right icon Archie Bill, he wants too much River
• 1:40:29
  down. I don't want River down like a
• 1:40:31
  year. I I quit after the dad died.
• 1:40:35
  Um so RT she goes to this already in his shop.
• 1:40:39
  He's clearly very upset. He's just wrong.
• 1:40:43
  He thinks Kirill is dead. His favorite person ever?
• 1:40:46
  Yeah and he was like this. This was my person like We were
• 1:40:51
  doing it for. She comes in, he's like, oh, oh,
• 1:40:56
  oh, girl, it was the mustache and she's like I have a job for
• 1:41:03
  you. So they're all at John's house.
• 1:41:07
  He's like I'm like where does like the baroness think John is
• 1:41:11
  because he's like making them all T.
• 1:41:13
  There they're sewing. Sewing sewing.
• 1:41:16
  You're like really not sure. What for yeah.
• 1:41:19
  They're just preparing it seems like forever.
• 1:41:20
  The biggest fashion show in the world.
• 1:41:23
  John's tiny little apartment. No, oh gosh.
• 1:41:30
  I'm at Krill is on the balcony before this final showdown.
• 1:41:34
  And this black dress that she's wearing black lipstick which I
• 1:41:37
  thought was an interesting moment.
• 1:41:39
  Yeah, I didn't quite understand that.
• 1:41:43
  I feel like she's just kind of a morning, you know.
• 1:41:46
  Yeah, kofi's morning like the death of her mom.
• 1:41:50
  Mourning. The death of Estella which are
• 1:41:53
  coming to find out, mourning the death of everything she thought
• 1:41:57
  she knew about her life. Yeah.
• 1:42:00
  You're into it. Yeah I know I miss your thinking
• 1:42:02
  because also like one jostling his story he's like yeah your
• 1:42:06
  father just wasted away after you died died and it's like a
• 1:42:13
  terrible thing to keep in your head.
• 1:42:15
  So now it's time, Elizabeth to go to a my favorite place,
• 1:42:20
  King's Landing, we're going it to the capital of all Fashions
• 1:42:24
  know we're going to. We're actually going to Hellman
• 1:42:30
  Hall it looks like King's Landing those people wearing
• 1:42:34
  armor. Does I pretty sure I saw Cersei
• 1:42:38
  Lannister Waka by just things are things are turning into a
• 1:42:43
  Game of Thrones situation. Yeah once again it's just like
• 1:42:47
  the the show at the beginning of the movie where it was you know
• 1:42:52
  very French Revolution Marie Antoinette.
• 1:42:55
  Except now it's like very like medieval King Arthur's Court.
• 1:43:00
  Game of Thrones and Lord of the Rings for as long as the rains
• 1:43:03
  not go there. So once again, the baroness is
• 1:43:07
  just doing the most, she is in the silver gown.
• 1:43:11
  Yeah, draping with chains. Yes, I almost thought I saw like
• 1:43:15
  a metal corset piece but then I don't think it was a corset.
• 1:43:19
  I don't think it was a corset but it was definitely.
• 1:43:23
  It was more of like a very elaborate like belt.
• 1:43:26
  Yeah I mean this outfit is crazy good.
• 1:43:30
  And she is paranoid AF. She is just like you all better.
• 1:43:37
  Like, not let this for karela ruin tonight, like, she's out
• 1:43:42
  there. You need to go get her.
• 1:43:44
  And they're like, oh, it's fine. We have these really intense
• 1:43:46
  tasers. Now, she starts teasing.
• 1:43:50
  Everybody should taste the made. I believe she just taste the
• 1:43:55
  made. And no one walked out.
• 1:43:56
  Yeah. Like the maid to do anything
• 1:43:58
  like to you. And I like, what else?
• 1:44:00
  Has she done that? This doesn't seem that crazy to
• 1:44:02
  them. I'm home.
• 1:44:04
  That's terrible. Oh, so right off the bat,
• 1:44:10
  though. Krill is plan is an action, even
• 1:44:14
  before she arrives at the party, because it turns out they were
• 1:44:20
  selling the same exact dress over and over and over again,
• 1:44:25
  and sending it to all the women. The baroness had tackle thrown
• 1:44:31
  out of her parties and telling them, to come to, my come to my
• 1:44:37
  party and wear this in honor of our dearly Departed.
• 1:44:42
  Haha, that's a great plan. I love this, it's so good.
• 1:44:46
  So the baroness comes out with her dogs and she sees a sea of
• 1:44:52
  Cruella's. Her worst nightmare my fantasy
• 1:44:58
  and it's hilarious because like her staff is like on the lookout
• 1:45:02
  for them. And they're like there's crew
• 1:45:03
  out there. Oh no.
• 1:45:05
  No, they just keep tackling women, just crawling everywhere.
• 1:45:09
  This is a nightmare. It's a nightmare.
• 1:45:12
  Mer. So.
• 1:45:13
  And they start. Infiltrating, and Horace is an
• 1:45:16
  acrylic outfit. Yeah, which was hilarious,
• 1:45:21
  hilarious. He gets all.
• 1:45:24
  But one of the guards into the library, he traps them in there
• 1:45:29
  and then he's fighting this one guard.
• 1:45:30
  But RT comes saves him. And Haman already have like a
• 1:45:35
  really cute relationship throughout this whole thing.
• 1:45:38
  That also did a little moment right there.
• 1:45:40
  Yeah. For then also like, The rugby
• 1:45:44
  I'm like I see you guys. You're cute.
• 1:45:47
  Yeah, little connection there. I see it.
• 1:45:50
  Well, connection. We see it.
• 1:45:51
  You're not getting by Elizabeth and Spencer.
• 1:45:53
  Yeah. Now that everyone is just the
• 1:45:59
  best karela as Stella is there. Eric relative now that everyone
• 1:46:04
  is dressed as karela. The real Kirill has there and
• 1:46:08
  she's gonna change into her now. Alter Ego as Stella.
• 1:46:12
  Are you guys keeping up with the karela and the Stella?
• 1:46:16
  Yes, she's Cruella until the baroness is forced to make a
• 1:46:22
  toast in her honor. Oh yeah.
• 1:46:27
  Good. That was awkward sheep.
• 1:46:30
  She did say earlier, why would have her toasts to someone else
• 1:46:33
  besides myself? And I was just a toaster karela.
• 1:46:37
  That's good. Estella is now dressed as
• 1:46:40
  herself. And she, in a way to bring the
• 1:46:46
  baroness outside to the cliff, she stole.
• 1:46:50
  The baroness is dog. Whistle.
• 1:46:51
  And she just Blows the Whistle, the dogs are instantly in a
• 1:46:55
  panic. We got to get outside.
• 1:46:57
  Side. The see how we go?
• 1:46:58
  Come on, who Let The Dogs Out Estella?
• 1:47:01
  Let the dogs out. I still let the dogs out.
• 1:47:04
  The baroness is just being dragged by these Dalmatians.
• 1:47:08
  And you there is a Stella in the same exact spot where her mother
• 1:47:12
  died. This was so crazy to watch.
• 1:47:16
  I did not know what was going to happen but this is very, very
• 1:47:19
  powerful that imagery of the scene.
• 1:47:22
  It was and like they're if they're seemingly having like a
• 1:47:26
  heart to heart. Seemingly.
• 1:47:28
  I mean maybe to no one ever because we can all see the
• 1:47:31
  baroness's try. Not to crack up laughing.
• 1:47:34
  Yeah. Sweet.
• 1:47:36
  She's trying to be sweet. She's staying like.
• 1:47:38
  Well, of course you're This brilliant.
• 1:47:40
  You're my child and as they're having this little moment,
• 1:47:44
  Horace. Jasper already.
• 1:47:47
  John the footman know, John the valet.
• 1:47:50
  There we go. Open.
• 1:47:53
  That's a step down. John, the valley.
• 1:47:57
  Say they're all telling the baroness would like you on the
• 1:48:00
  patio. The baroness would like you on
• 1:48:01
  the patio. So everyone is coming out to the
• 1:48:04
  patio and seeing this little mother-daughter moment and
• 1:48:09
  they're seeing the parents being like, let me give you a hug.
• 1:48:12
  I'm A cell is like, you're not gonna push me over the edge.
• 1:48:15
  She's like, oh no, no, no. No never do that.
• 1:48:22
  You're so funny. You're so funny.
• 1:48:24
  So everyone's out on the balcony and she's like, You're funny
• 1:48:27
  stupid and pushes her off. Yeah, I'm coming.
• 1:48:33
  Everyone, everyone at the party. Sees it, she tries to be like
• 1:48:36
  she jumped and tried to take me with her, and everyone's like we
• 1:48:41
  saw in heard, we saw and heard, we got you, we got you on
• 1:48:45
  camera, we got you. So Estelle is gone.
• 1:48:48
  Estelle is dead. She straight up.
• 1:48:49
  Murdered Stella, she's straight murdered Estella but it still,
• 1:48:54
  it did kind of go down with a parachute.
• 1:48:56
  Yeah. So Cruella could live.
• 1:49:00
  Oh yeah cuz somehow somehow I was still don't understand how
• 1:49:05
  this worked that she was able to will the entire Helm in a state
• 1:49:09
  to herself. Yeah, I don't know maybe it's
• 1:49:12
  just goes into the lawyer rank of this movie but I mean,
• 1:49:15
  technically, she was that. Yeah, I don't know how that
• 1:49:19
  would work. I mean, I guess if it's like
• 1:49:23
  classic She said, Estella wrote in her, will that the fortune
• 1:49:31
  and the Mansion of go to her? Good friend Cruella.
• 1:49:34
  Yeah, I don't know how it passed down, maybe because I'm not a
• 1:49:39
  lawyer, but I'm pretty like we're in.
• 1:49:43
  Also has a bunch of weird laws, especially still back then,
• 1:49:47
  about inheritance. So she could have just
• 1:49:50
  automatically had all that but like because no one knew she was
• 1:49:53
  alive. Live.
• 1:49:55
  It would not have any. If we have any lawyers out
• 1:49:58
  there, feel free to let us know. That's what happened here.
• 1:50:02
  Any lawyers from the British Isles?
• 1:50:04
  Would be spectacular. I feel like this is a this is a
• 1:50:09
  British thing. We need to have a conversation
• 1:50:13
  and figure out what's inside. We don't have we don't have
• 1:50:15
  monarchies and ancestral lands passing down over here.
• 1:50:22
  Yeah so as Stella is Herb. Yeah, but karela is alive.
• 1:50:27
  Her boys were there waiting for her to pick her up out of the
• 1:50:30
  sea. Oh yeah, her boys, picked her
• 1:50:33
  up. She even goes to her own funeral
• 1:50:35
  which I felt like you know why, if no one attended, why would
• 1:50:39
  you attend your own funeral? Why half the funeral?
• 1:50:42
  I mean, I think she's clearly working through a lot.
• 1:50:46
  Yeah, that's true. She's saying goodbye to her
• 1:50:49
  former life. Yes.
• 1:50:52
  I just felt like she could do that home with a glass of wine,
• 1:50:55
  but to each their own and as the baroness is being herded Away by
• 1:50:59
  the police, she rolls up at that party, as Cruella.
• 1:51:04
  Oh yeah. And in the car, and she's tells
• 1:51:08
  everyone that her new name is Cruella de Vil.
• 1:51:11
  It's spelled devil but it's pronounced a bill.
• 1:51:17
  You sound just like her. Nah, I don't.
• 1:51:23
  So now karela gets to go see her new digs.
• 1:51:26
  So, you know, I'm the valet is like, welcome home.
• 1:51:31
  She's got her boys with her Jasper and Horace already'
• 1:51:35
  there. They're all looking around, she
• 1:51:38
  looks spectacular, she's like, yes, I am.
• 1:51:41
  The Mistress of this home. She's wearing this black dress
• 1:51:44
  with this, cut out back Cape. It's like a great.
• 1:51:49
  You been on the back is almost like cuts and like a you yeah,
• 1:51:54
  it's very like aristocratic her load.
• 1:51:58
  Now with the I love like the little chain on her boots still.
• 1:52:02
  Oh yeah, this look is us. This is a great finale, look at
• 1:52:07
  and that she has the donations with her because she's like, I'm
• 1:52:12
  just as crazy as my mother. I'm going to need these dogs.
• 1:52:15
  I was like what? She keep the dogs there.
• 1:52:17
  They don't. They don't have it.
• 1:52:19
  Good relationship, but maybe that's the point.
• 1:52:21
  She's embracing the things embracing them.
• 1:52:24
  She's embracing these dogs because they're a part of her
• 1:52:27
  even if they're evil. Yes.
• 1:52:29
  And she goes to the gates of her new home, straight up.
• 1:52:34
  Just takes the man part out of Helmand and she now lives at.
• 1:52:40
  He'll haul. Welcome the hell, huh?
• 1:52:45
  She's like, let's get this started.
• 1:52:47
  And that is a great way to And the story of Cruella once I
• 1:52:51
  think this is going to be a story that we get to follow in a
• 1:52:54
  years to come. Oh yeah, I'm really excited that
• 1:52:58
  they already have a sequel planned already.
• 1:53:02
  Yeah, Elizabeth there is one last thing we need to talk
• 1:53:05
  about. Before we wrap up this episode,
• 1:53:08
  there is a a little bit of controversy, not unheard of but
• 1:53:16
  it's a problem, it's a problem. And I'm about to get real
• 1:53:20
  passionate. Yes.
• 1:53:22
  So recently Ragan bone announced that they were going to have a
• 1:53:27
  Cruella and spell it inspired line in partnership with Disney
• 1:53:35
  but not in partnership with Jenny beavan shocking to knowing
• 1:53:39
  the costume. Designer was not involved in
• 1:53:42
  this collaboration at all like this happens all the time.
• 1:53:48
  Very rarely are costume designers consulted or
• 1:53:53
  compensated for any licensed product based on their designs.
• 1:53:59
  I literally, I only found three times when a costume designer
• 1:54:04
  was actually Broughton, it was for the madman collection with
• 1:54:09
  Banana Republic. The Gossip Girl collection with
• 1:54:13
  Miss Selfridge and Trish Somerville did do a collection
• 1:54:17
  with a Hm, for Girl with the Dragon Tattoo.
• 1:54:20
  However, it is basically just common practice for costume
• 1:54:26
  designers not to be compensated. When their designs are used for
• 1:54:30
  toys costumes all the licensed product acting and and Bevin
• 1:54:37
  told Riot e that she was horrified when she saw this, she
• 1:54:42
  said like she had been consulted before filming that like oh we
• 1:54:46
  might, you know, do it. Fashion line, she was like oh
• 1:54:49
  okay, but she's like I didn't hear anything to write.
• 1:54:55
  She said I quote the thing about Cruella is that you've got a
• 1:54:59
  film about fashion about to fashion designers.
• 1:55:02
  The whole story is them almost having a warfare using fashion,
• 1:55:08
  so it's so disrespectful to then bring out fashion lines.
• 1:55:13
  So she's like the whole point is that, you know, they're using
• 1:55:17
  fashion to bring each other down and then you're gonna bring out
• 1:55:20
  this fashion line and like not include me and not compensate me
• 1:55:26
  like it's just not right. Yeah, here's the deal.
• 1:55:29
  I mean costume designers are the storytellers that make a lot of
• 1:55:33
  our favorite movies. TV shows, theater Productions,
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  music videos, animations come to life and we owe a lot of
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  Designers deserve a lot of credit, not just credit, but
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  they also deserve to be compensated for their work
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  correctly. I mean, you can't think of this
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  movie karela even being anywhere near as a successful without the
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  work of Jenny beavan, I don't know.
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  So at the Autumn costume, it's part of our mission to make sure
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  that we highlight costume designers and their brilliant
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  work and it's about time to Industry starts doing the same
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  thing. Yeah, I am so frustrated every
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  time I go to the movies and we see, Eames and you can't even
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  figure out who's the costume designer.
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  Because it's not labeled on a glass.
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  Simple, things like that. We need a credit costume
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  designers further, brilliant work.
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  Oh yeah. And I think the costume designer
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  Gill president Salvador, Perez Jr.
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  He put out like a little statement that perfectly
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  encapsulates. You know what, the like, what
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  the problem is? He says as costume designers,
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  our work has a Fie on the screen or work is reproduced for toys,
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  costumes, fashion Collections and more.
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  Not only are we not allowed to /?
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  Not only are we not allowed to participate in the profits made
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  off the merchandising, we aren't even credited for our work in
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  the original designs. And it's just that this is a
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  remnant of the Hollywood System. If you don't know what that is,
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  look it up. It's a remnant of that and it's
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  not fair. And it's not right?
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  That's not fair credit costume designers and pay them what
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  they're worth, which is a lot. It's like they make the look of
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  these iconic characters to actors.
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  Bring them to life. It couldn't be done without the
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  actors but we remember how they look and that's all down to the
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  costume designer. Yeah, exactly.
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  Well on that note, we hope that everyone continues to credit
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  costume designers. Make sure that they're
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  compensated correctly and that brings us to the conclusion of
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  our first episode of The Art of costume blogcast.
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