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Plural construction, the renowned journalistic program of political analysis and current in its twentieth
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season, with the leadership of Fernando Mauri and a team of prestigious analysts.
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Listen to him on radio topic train, the President of the Nation in Argentina,
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Dr Gabriero Mirey presides hello everyone. There is no stabilization plan, not
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good, but the delay to change. Here' s a problem of currency
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arrears. It is impossible to achieve the zero deficit in the twenty- four
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thousand. Good. It is very small of specks Raya is a lot of
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Ecuador how about, my friends, very but very good afternoon a new start
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of week in plural construction two of the afternoon, well, with an agenda
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to a good extent that already for a few days we have been busy by
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football. On the one hand, with the triumph of the Argentine team in
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Latin America of Spain, because not in the Euro Cup, I think it
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is probably the two selections of the moment and only one the ports that mark
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the results by Donald Trump. From Saturday afternoon. Let' s all stop
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a minute that, well, first was wounded by luck, not by gravity,
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which would have meant magnicide against Cristina Fernández a while ago. In the
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current anti- Trump he knows as well this obviously much more, if it
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is worldwide, much more than that of Cristina Fernández ox Now Trump reupdated by
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that patch in Oreje, because to say no to his Bise, a vice
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of thirty- nine years very young who has said at a time that trump
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was the devil but well, meanwhile the case loan in the dispossession of this
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boy here in the North, is losing some visibility. More than thirty days
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passed and the agenda then moves from these last three or four days. That
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' s more the economy, obviously the financial, that we will also be
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analyzing, dollar theme, country risk theme. Today the Blue, like the
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contrabo, leak and continues to go down hard better on the roof of 1,
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500 pesos. Last Friday. In the case of Blue it has already
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dropped one hundred and five pesos. He' s in a thousand three hundred
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and ninety- five of his current ground floor. Today one how forty-
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six is added to five six percent of two. I' m going yesterday
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with LEAFI behind a thousand two hundred and eighty- five. But what worrying
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full glass and half full glass and half empty glass? It is the rise,
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the risk country that, like yesterday, continues to rise up three percent
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and is in one thousand six hundred and six thousand away from the thousand two
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hundred and three hundred. Also very far from the two thousand five hundred that
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had gift six more, no, but good that it is one thousand six
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hundred six at this time the same country is the central title at this hour
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the four zero three in Argentina, with relatively pleasant follows the cool, but
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it did not win polar, not so much with impetus and less than one
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morning and after being a little more tempered with fifteen degrees and this work Infobae,
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as I said, is the hon the central title of the ho the
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risk country exceeds thousand six hundred points and is the highest in four months while
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it continues the decline of the financial dollars well exclusive. Ramón Jesúsun' s
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Intent Act, the patron of the Colombian punbo who attacked security in the chaotic
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final of the Copa América, says in foay a statement that brings them.
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We care about the value of the dollar that the Lorard bet loses or takes
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care of the risk. Country assured presidential spokesman Adorno Forgiveness Adorni, the FEM
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worsened its projections. For Argentina, it estimates that economic activity will fall more
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than expected. This is for this year, but with a good recovery for
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next year. And finally, also marine economic matter of the critical project.
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The Government' s new measures lead to falling reserves and raising the country'
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s risk. I remind you that tomorrow, to make up for the holiday
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on July 9th, we will have two hours We will meet at fifteen hours
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we will be just like today, with Don Gustavo Ferrari and Volfeson, but
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we will also be, for example, tomorrow with Daniel Hipper standing up.
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Well a series of columnists that will be contributing, as always impose the value
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this product that has already traveled better. That' s your 20th season.
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Don Gustavo Farral and Wolvenson my friend. How are you doing, what are
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yarnando, very good afternoon, how are you? Be well, very well
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listening to all your introductory advances for this week' s news. Very rich
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in information. Sir to see me he grabbed me in the tub were.
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I think seven o' clock in the afternoon. I' m not talking
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to anyone who' s shut me down, but he grabbed me about Trump,
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as always, with one or two cell phones, battling notifications of all
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kinds and colors. A clarion one. I think it was the first one
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I saw and published in our Whatsapp group, where Gustavo Vostron is integrated,
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where they well hurt Donald Trump and others and from there everything that came would
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not have meant a murder of this kind. The history of the U S
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in terms of assassinations, the history of the U S in terms of free
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possession of weapons, and the fourth amendment, which the Democrats want a little
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to obstruct, but the Republicans, with their heads booby- trapped, tire
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of endorsing and deepening. Well, what' s a little context in your
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judgment of liking and where the First, the first b or practically live because
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I was watching the American TV act and suddenly I felt this. I didn
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' t hear the bullets, but at no time did I think of the
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direct wound. You didn' t see it feel on the floor and when
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you get up with say with the blood stains, I thought it had been,
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let' s say, the product of it, the fall. Let
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' s say the fall. Some talk about pop and trained to have soon
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exactly just thought immediately not and then, evidently, like everyone else, I
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heard all the information paraphanalia. The only thing I fully agree with is that
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it is not the first time it has been attacked. In other words,
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we would have to analyze the history of the attacks with destination or better of
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said, with objective achieved and those with objectives not achieved. I don'
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t remember the famous one is the last almost important, plus TV shows it.
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Not because deep down we' re already on the media that they'
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re dating, dating a hotel, it was ab hotel exactly good, which
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costs their spokesman too. He was never talked about again. He was wounded
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by a bucket. It was quite a while, let' s say,
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with a brain injury, alive, but notice that it would be practically interesting
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to analyze what happened to that boy at the time, who was totally left
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with a brain wound of thought and everything that did. Actually, if we
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looked at it how well you talked about it. Let' s say the
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famous amendment to the free supply of weapons. I mean, it' s
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not an isolated event, it was a candidate, but we practically see three
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four times a year from a madman who comes to a school, to a
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dining room, to the church and the guy starts not by the blessing or
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divine command of I don' t know about the church, from the Elvis
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Presley of Maradona, from Tupack Shakur, anyone doing his messes. Not then
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is there a society also enough to turn around and that really these kinds of
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acts are typical of a reaction, say, of a violent society that exists
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in every sense, even that is, when we analyze the events that happened
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in the Uruguayan Colombia in Colombia Argentina or of the final, we see that
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they are not even prepared for an action of control between civilized quotation marks,
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because also beyond all the police he grabbed to say like macanazo without measure to
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which he came politically what this fate means. Well, obviously, no one
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has the life bought. No, as I said, no one dies on
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the eve of power. The fact that I don' t know I'
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m alive is not the bit, the rambo of the eighties in front of
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this decision. Not the hero who can really lead the United States is named
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Donald Trump. That' s not what the fact of the fist in the
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air meant after the attack. I' m not alive, let' s
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say. If we want to call it the end of Hollywood whatever you want
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to call prey, yes, faith in front of Li Tania. They are
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iconic to port with the US flag behind them, not exactly meant. So,
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if we thought that that would have happened, it would have happened to
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President Biden. Maybe I don' t know I could have said he'
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s on a stretcher not with different security schemes, doctors, no, surveillance.
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No. No. No. I' m the hero who' s
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breast- feeding. No, and a little he' s the famous one.
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This Trump slogan. Don' t work or build America back to make
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America I gay. No. Then it marks that potentiality, obviously. I
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think that' s also what he marks with the strength to negotiate the next
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very important issues on the coming agenda. Not that, of course, the
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United States is entering a stage of very strong negotiations. Casucrania, the case
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of Russia and perhaps Israel. To what extent will it continue to support,
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let us say these situations that have been uncomfortable and the administration, that is,
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the situation of Netayu in its total East, if we want to say
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radicalism and where one or a space is not generated that allows for a possible
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negotiation or solves the conflict that even now has the renewal that we say is
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no less of the Free Trade Agreement with Mexico and Canada and the famous Neoosorshin,
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which would also generate the possibility that many American companies will cease to be,
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say, producing or manufacturing in China and use it in the border areas
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of both countries. That is to say, it is clearly showing, or
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the search for leadership is being sought, which President Biden is not or is
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not showing today. No. Then they' re signs, obviously good.
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At what price that signal has been shown, not that bandaged ear that today
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shows it and the Convention. I think it' s going to be the
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icon for at least the next two months. Not what you think of the
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fourth amendment. This is so polymised that I was talking to Democrat. You
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' re trying to liberalize at least a little bit Biyden himself and you think
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he' s a regular speaker from the U S Rifle National Section, that
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exactly meadow that marks c look I don' t really have a formed opinion.
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I' m going to make you very without it. It' s
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perfect, it' s deep. I don' t have an opinion,
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because good is part of the free spirit. The theme is use, not
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having it. That' s right. The theme is use. If you
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have her registered, you don' t have her registered. But, look
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now the subject that you can go to woldmart to buy a semi- automatic
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in a rifle one because I say I could say look for protection such or
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such meat that I am going to see, correct that you live much more
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there you are suborcated, you are buying nu you are showing that you are
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going to do something else that you have such coortation or such a course that
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you wanted here is very different, not that it is look. I don
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' t honestly tell you honestly I don' t know how it' s
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registration control in Argentina that catches my attention and I' m telling you that
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as comments. Or here in this cosumel I have a package, a local
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cable company that the guys obviously go down or buy packages with the satellite and
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suddenly I don' t know to have a good channel, they fit twenty
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- five channels of second or third level to the point that it' s
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a channel that shows you second division football from Jamaica. I go sometimes I
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know, yes, yes, I know the owner and I tell him,
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but listen well and he tells me look I add it inside the package in
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exchange chol and among them appears curiously a lousy channel of our country called America
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Sport, which moves through three four channels, three four programs, evidently produced.
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One of them, which is fishing, so much I don' t
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know in the parana, in currents, etcetera. And another is a program
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of a man who visits houses, not sales, weapons, or hunting and
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fishing products. Then this one I tell you because you show it. No.
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So he' s here and what did you bring today and I brought
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this telescopic look that I don' t know? What for home, this
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for wild boar, well, but they make you all the detail my ignorance
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in this sense. I don' t know if I was a let'
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s say a hunter, so to speak professional or non- professional or amateur.
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I' m going to this house. I don' t know what
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requirement they ask of me in the Argentine Republic. If I want to buy
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that rifle, let' s say to kill deer as it were. I
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don' t know then this one but well, I see that there is
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a market very very avid for the same advertising and also tell you this let
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' s say we buy it in second hand. It' s completely reconstructed
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or rearmed by us that you show. Well, I don' t know
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I' m gonna regret you again, that is, in this situation,
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as you say from the United States, going to Waldmar. You don'
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t buy three spins videos, two beers. Yes, have a twenty-
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two this one I don' t know how to ask you or not,
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obviously, but well, there' s a naturalness. The subject is first
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there is a record, i e, I don' t know tell you
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honestly, problem program what I think. And well, like all things,
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I mean to see, because you could also get them from the black market,
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no, I mean, we see them with our rifles. We in
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the Greater Buenos Aires, Not well, it would be much harder, not
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good, not to give back in pay now there would be kind of that
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it is on a roof, not obviously, with a life by the distance.
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And not only that. We also have a secret service that is prepared
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for reaction in turn on other roofs. But what happens and I' m
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not recovering at all. But what' s unusual and hollywoodels is that like
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this kid, because he wasn' t 500 meters away, he was doing
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50 meters fast, how he got there, being there that nobody saw him.
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Be God unusual, the truth, well, I' m totally not
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like that. It' s a good thing it' s 50 years old.
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It still follows Dallas' open mystery of good. So, yeah,
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well, there, we all sensed there was a big conspiracy. No yes,
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obviously, but good, but conspiracy. Maybe it wasn' t,
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say, a conspiracy. Now it can be more open, that is,
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in this open world of full communication, I don' t know, I
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mean, I don' t know. This one we' re talking about,
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besides a young boy, how far can he have that political fundamentalism and
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on what basis do you mean? As you say, it is very hollywoodense
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without derogating let' s really say what the fact meant, but it leaves
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you with many doubts, doubts in the process. I don' t know,
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but at the same time as it would have happened with a Trump murder
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for the U S system. Well, that' s where it' s
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done. Have or to do, but what would have happened to answer Self
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- respond good. I think you' re the first Republican Party. Good
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for you in Mexico at the time, when it was Coloio' s murder
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in the middle of the presidential campaign and more recently in Ecuador, etcetera.
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I mean, what' s the reaction? First, institutional, institutional,
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where you are three months from the candidacy, who is the emergent and in
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the capacity of what rises from the new man of martyr, heir of traditions.
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No, I mean, that' s right there for you. Yeah,
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well, guys, okay, tomorrow we bury him, but what'
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s next for us as a situation. No, we victimize or weaken the
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situation. Don' t notice that the candidate you' re choosing as Vice
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President is a very special case because it' s also a product of an
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extremely dysfunctional family. He had three parents, twenty surnames. There' s
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a story of singing for him, of his own life, but he'
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s a thirty- nine- year- old boy, that is, that
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' s the contrast to seniority, let' s say the new one seemed
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chosen to drive Harris crazy, although he failed to trap her not to go,
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to re- election and to go introductory. And besides, what'
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s next is a new generation, that is, after I was old,
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don' t be, let' s form what' s coming now,
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what' s coming in terms of what' s from America, potential,
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commercial America, I believe and we have, we go back to the issues,
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even if it doesn' t seem. Let' s say beyond its
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international complex, beyond the complex, let' s say international leadership, that
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is, what it follows, that is, but what it follows for American
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society, that is, to see just how to handle the drug trafficking issue
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on the border with Mexico, how it will handle the issue of migratory flows,
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not only from Latin America, but also more from the Middle East,
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as it was at the time, let' s say from East Asia.
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What is going to happen today with the fantanillo that is drilling the head of
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say twenty percent of the American population. In other words, they are internal
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politics issues that beyond making America great in the commercial, it is in us,
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in the rescue of values society, that is because you, that is,
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is the breadth. But grab any American series you have a Chinese,
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you have a Hispanic, you have a gate and I don' t know
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and the only pervert is the guason not as they call it, not then
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this is where the problem starts a little bit. Not how we remake American
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society, because spiritual values, let' s say religious, this one of
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those of the founders fail. That' s it. Don' t ask.
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I know that the questions are difficult to answer, just as you were
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difficult to answer the question of position of arming, I say what comes the
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statements of Dance Above all was good, let' s lower tensions, let
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' s lower a change, I say among ordinary citizens, because I see
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some reactions in networks or of the others on the right. Well, they
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' re really hurt. Well, stop barking, I say we will see
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indeed, in structural terms, from above one is going to lower a change
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and lower verbal violence, which was also strong on both sides and, on
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the other hand, he was supported standing in the supporter, in the protester
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on the street. Or this on the contrary, the danger is that it
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will be further exacerbated. No. I think you' ve seen that it
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' s necessary to lower a change to others first because it doesn' t
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suit any of them, that' s such a strong aggression from Trump to
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Biden puts him in a position of competition, of reaction. He is facing
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not Biden, but the Democratic United States apparatus, which does not have a
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replacement option either. We talked about it last week, that we continue as
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Valdin said, not crutches, but we get instead and Vaiden on the other
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side, let' s say he' s not going to confront, because
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he doesn' t have the strength to say well, I yell at you
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and then I breast- feed you, because I don' t have the
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strength to breast- feed. So I believe in let' s say the
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necessity of whether to call it a reconciliation or to take the next few months
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in peace, they' re going to start to touch on fewer personal issues
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and more issues of common interests, of how I can resolve no good Hello
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well the welcome be god to see there have been extemporaneous regions. No,
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as I say from the protesters and I can' t help but mention it
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to our President, that he quickly came out with things very hot, accusing
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an internal national left when here, I say, there are attacks by the
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left and borderline because I think they are done, when they are ideological.
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But I say here in principle, that is something that we become very conspiranic.
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We see once again with the Reagan theme, as in the theme of
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this John Lennon, a madman with a fever and trying to make himself famous
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in the same way something like that. There' s no one or that
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I don' t think. I think it was cadaver that was left from
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great attention. I think it' s a purely domestic policy issue. I
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wouldn' t even risk saying politics. Let' s say international conspiracy.
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I respect Mr President' s position, but let' s start from talking
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more lincolde than was the first most open attack case. They have always been
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internal political attitudes, not conspiratorial or not, as we said, or Kennedy
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' s was conspiratorial, obviously, but it was an issue of American political
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leadership. I do not agree because, moreover, if it were an international
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issue, I believe that we have already experienced it. They manifest themselves in
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other ways and with other types of global attacks. No. Yeah, his
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name wasn' t Mohammed Ali Shooters either, his name was red neck,
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as the impossible Americans say. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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somebody from deep America, boy, exactly the Walton family remember that TV
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show. Well, more or less the same. Not well, let us
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hope that indeed, I want to subscribe to my doubts, but I want
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above all not at the structural level, or at the structural level, at
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the street level, the demonstrators, the supporters. I hope you all do
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agree and lower a change, because I' m clear, like saying it
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' s no business for anyone. This is carle, not that. It
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' s like that, it' s like that, it' s week.
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Well, we' ll meet tomorrow. Obviously, tomorrow. You want
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to advance a little bit of what you' re going to talk about way
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you proposed to me, you want to tell her the or the morning I
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would like to say the Argentine selection, but not from the point of view
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of football necessarily, but to analyze something that I' ve been thinking about,
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working, going around a long time ago, a cultural and formation theme
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of this new generation in front of what we are or saw in this America
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Cup, with some interesting results, others really different. Not for Latin America
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and why, this luck, which is the comment beyond that if he played
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well, if he played badly, of the strength of this team, behavior
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and thought. That' s what I' d like us to look at
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tomorrow, not perhaps as a product and an example. Yes, yes,
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yes, perfect, perfect, seeing some found themselves the morning then sixteen,
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treinto over there, according to an Embrace down this morning, big hug.
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Thank you very much, Gustavo Ferrer and Volve are here in plural construction.
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Well, yes, we did a cast of this one we have first previewed.
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Grace, Rome had some trouble for us. So, Graciela. Now
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we have to do a little bit, so we did a rock and we
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started with Gustavo Jarrar Bolstante well, to see he did some more information there,
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as he had already liked it quickly. He would measure ansiophyus, I
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would say anxious, I would say dynamic. Jai Bregi died. I have
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a clarion note from Ullin and when i the two of the six of two
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thousand twenty- one two of June twenty- one years of two thousand twenty
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- one, the thirty of March eighty- eighty- eighty- one was
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seen in an attack against the President of the United States and remained in a
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wheelchair. And here this note reported the figure that Gustavo Jais brime Chels Drady,
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spokesman for REAN and leader of arms control, mentioned on a rainy afternoon
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of that March 30, the eighties and one, that this was the last
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grand let' s say assassination attempt when President Ronald Rian in the United States
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is not rushed to climb his limousine. After a speech in a hotbed at
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the Washington Center, John Hingley, who is the assassination attempt and who interpreted
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the murder as a distraught student who intended with a high impact to impress actress
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Sody Foster, with whom he was obsessed, sneaked out among the custodians and
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shot six times at the President and officials around him regan was injured, but
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the worst one was James s Breide, the press secretary at the White House.
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One n impacted his head, beat his right part of the brain,
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and from then on he was partially paralyzed with memory loss and difficulties in speaking.
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Rean spent twelve days in the hospital, but Breid was there for nine
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months in a hard recovery that left him in wheelchairs day after day in Brail
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' s life and had a single obsession to fight to harden gun controls in
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the United States. This is something they are very different from traps, that
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is to say that this was a second- level official and after obviously it
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will be certainly new, as was the leader of the free world, the
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leader of that huge country of military potential. It' s like it'
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s the first power, like America is. Tran is going to continue,
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he is not going to lower a change in his post preaching in the freedom
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of the amendment to favor the fourth amendment, which anyone can take his art,
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have his weapon, buy the Waldmar with a dened with an identity accreditation
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and nothing better. This Brady dedicated part of his battle of all its fruits,
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but he could not see the end of the contest, which is still
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immersive among dark, lawmakers and powerful. Lois died at the age of seventy
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- three. As announced by his family. Here it is, as I
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say, this subject of the issue of weapons would not be in a damned
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if it were rolled, if we had a common sense law, said Breadi
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in two thousand eleven. The exclusionary also pressed for the installation of the weapon
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- sale purchase provision that had inspired two thousand four. Here' s the
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thing, because to see self- defense, revolve gun small arms of low
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caliber. I don' t understand anything about arming them. Of course,
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but of course, one can buy like this teente kid, who died from
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the virtuous action of the s a chon, not virtuous in the previous,
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let' s say in foreseeing it, I say by the bullets of the
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secret service of fucking that tried to kill the trumpe Well, this has na.
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The father had bought him, but the situation does not change. Well,
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there' s no limitations, because you talk or someone tells me good
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for self- defense. It is a country that is thus more libertarian,
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whatever is good, but it was smaller under good caliber. There are virtually
31:02
no limitations in that regard. Unfortunately, the United States. Well began the
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authoritative dialogue in Fobal between the Secretary of Labor in SGT. The government seeks
31:10
to avoid another stoppage to one Tristel I say Riquel opened me on the error
31:15
in the inscription of the reinforcements of mouth in view of freedom forgiveness to the
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South Americans that ironic that I am today. We sent the e- mail
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at seven forty- three in the afternoon and she is our seven, because
31:25
the schedule of assumption that has to honor and predepres and evokes those four reinforcements
31:29
for the series against independent of the valley next appointment in the South American Cup.
31:37
Well, well, this is how far he got, they' ll
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make an opsofi to the lawyer' s body in the Loan case, he
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was forty- five years old, and he suffered from pressure altars. Well,
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we' re off to the pause and we' re probably still here.
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re good, and I got it now. Yes, perfect thanks to the
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romer mimia. Good afternoon, how you' re doing Hello, how you
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' re doing well, very well, you listen badly, The truth is
32:51
good to see I get closer to the microphone and in any case, you
32:54
get a little louder. Well, you hear me better. That' s
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it now, okay. Where he grabbed you on Saturday afternoon. The night
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was not erased. Maybe he was making a swan or something. Where the
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attempted murder of Donald Trump caught you. I don' t think he was
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working. I was working at home and suddenly I got some information across the
33:22
computer and then there I put buds and nothing. There, that' s
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where I found out. And the truth is that the first one runs pre
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judiciously that I thought this, this unarmed. Yeah, yeah, me with
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Cristina, with Cristina Kinnord, I kept my reservations and it was also a
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little the first thing I thought. No, but well, if it'
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s different, but you tell stories are let' s say, the arguments
33:52
were several, the thoughts first was that, then I thought, but how
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crazy? How crazy is there in that country? Let' s say in
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a way in a country where the souls that are transmitted in certain states,
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etc etc. And then, reading author' s journalistic notes, let'
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s say it really reminded me that also in the United States, in that
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history of violence, not since the 1970s and here, so come out from
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the sixties to the afternoon, in man' s freedom. This comes back,
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it' s re- edited. And there' s already a fear.
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There is a fear and among the international analysts linked to say predicting likely
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with Sam we get to the head and above all, if they go to
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the elections of the dualization that is increasing in the United States, between Democrats
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and Republicans, just one with Gustavos Ferrario beats are my correspondent. That'
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s how I have it in Argentine correspondent in North America. He said he
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thinks that since it' s not in anyone' s interest, it doesn
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' t work for anyone. We do not analyze at the militant level supporters,
35:07
but at the level of power structure of the United States. Indeed,
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as we saw, living is going to bring down a change. Let'
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s say. You think at least from the power of power structures. We
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' re actually going to lower personal allusions to lower a change. We are
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not going to change, to modifications in the field of control of arms always
35:25
main worker in the National Association of the Riffle every year or something like that.
35:30
But he thinks we' re going a little unscathed in terms of actor
35:34
leadership. I think if Trump wins, those scenarios are less likely. Not
35:44
that they win, that they win democracies, but of all the Democrats interviews
35:47
that are the only ones that could somehow lift, let' s say go
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back to the party' s position in these elections. I don' t
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think that' s right. I think you know how to look. It
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' s a little different. I understand having less of a conjuncture term,
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Fernando, and this we have already talked about more in structural terms, but
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at the level of tria, at the global level, because I believe that
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these phenomena that are happening in Europe, are occurring in the United States,
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are being unknown in Argentina with Villay to see who have much to see them
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says inscriven would tell you in a world process. It is a world process
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that is realizing a rather marked, quite marked sack between democracy and that capitalist
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and globalization. You understand if this travels, travels Europe, travels the United
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States, travels the north of the United States, travels Latin America. With
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my law, with one side weird bag on the other. Let' s
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see and I have a group that I say is what I think, so
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it' s happening. I don' t really think so. This tride
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between the unification, a capitalism and democracy says that it begins there in the
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horqueldas has produced to see that fulfillment or of very important passages, It is
37:30
very important among these three scenes that produce an enormous and almost oze and to
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debateal, absolute concentration of sadness in the world and deterioration of the labor system,
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increase of the social asymmetries, a reconfiguration of the system of work and,
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above all, an excursion of young generations of the system. There is
38:02
already less chance than even young people. We explain trancritorially in the system it
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stays in the form of the system and this generates the levels of violence and
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dyntionality. It is true that we are seeing the increase in suicide say or
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say to them, and we are the social pathologies that we are observing.
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Fernando is the weird thing or he didn' t cut himself true, hello
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hours very well. Yeah, I hear you well, not because I support
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you. He leaned his phone over the computer. He did. I hear
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well, I hear well To me more we motivate come on. I am
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working in the defense system of democracies in Latin America and are really concerned about
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what is happening in terms of impact on democracy and the increase in polarization of
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populisms. But at the point of the Argentine Republic there are issues that I
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am very concerned about. We are in a process beyond the level of agreement
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or disagreement with the change of course that we say leads the law. There
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is a question I have with bread because it was necessary to share many other
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things with the negotiations that Argentina requires a cultural change in order to emerge from
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this decline, this structural decline, this failure. Mania that Argentina repeats and
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repeats. I believe that part of that incapacity has to do with the pro
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- legalistic vocation that Argentines have with respect to the law and the state of
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said that tends to permanently circumvent both in ornamental proteges, in public policies that
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we have seen very clearly in the last twenty years. Let' s say
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the Ricinist government wasn' t so anti- illegal. Let us say in
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the radicals that the greatest alfonsino, but it seems to me that this is
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to come six times the government of what they show is to produce a cultural
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change. There are two elements that are very important. On the one hand,
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there are references to which to simulate, especially if a profound cultural change
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is sought, that is, we have no edular references and, on the
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other hand, there are enormous, enormous contradictions in the government' s own
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development medium. Yes, well, I' m sorry my law speaks of
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Menem speaking Alberdi and Milay seek this change, this presumed or this attempt of
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cultural change referent is to emulate him. I mean, yes, but behavior
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changes and emular changes are not stimulated by carcomanias, but by attitudes and exemplaryness.
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If there is no exemplarity, as a quipo is raised within the family,
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educating you I have a picture of a father, a mother and what
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we have. Indeed, my law is responsible for referencing people who cannot be
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referenced at this time, because it no longer exists. He should be by
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the personalistic style in this as he has and that tendency let' s just
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say in the personalization of politics and that there are around and public decisions of
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the government and around the figures of the men is not the person who really
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being one as a good reference in cultural changes and one begins to see all
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these facts that my law has the ability to generate to concentrate on public events.
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Let' s say all the attention, all the attention, from the
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zor with Spain, the crone of Nula, the millionaires, the parade,
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everything, well, everything exactly. Thanks for helping me. Thanks for helping
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me. This is the world' s most counter- restraint. Yes,
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the most is forgiveness, contradictory, most contradictory in the world. It is
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enormously contradictory. The discourse is not true with the attitude in order to become
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a true reference of change. Yeah, something we want to get out of
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here. It is not true this great chaos that is argentity to move to
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a project that manages to stabilize the control of inflation and then to control the
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deformities, say, of public spending and that is predictable life and to speak
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permanently of predictability but their behaviors to them in reference terms, how we are
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considering it. And that seems to me the big chance. You remember that
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in the last talk we had he tells you I think my law had come
43:49
to immigrate more inwards and not connect with public opinion through opinion polls. Yeah,
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for empathy, but all that' s in his adn. They asked
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him the other day about the insecurity of the death of this ten- year
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- old boy, of a bullet in the province of Buenos Aires, and
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he took advantage of it to hit him here. Yeah, okay. There
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you understand politics, if you work, but you didn' t have a
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word for the family to say, even with the cassette, yes, the
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truth we regret is a terrible one. He didn' t say anything.
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It went straight through you realize that this is not a good example of leadership
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for those who want to change a culture in which collaboration is what. Let
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us say in great place permanently the collaboration to build permanently in favor of the
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competition, to destroy the other and that, moreover, it incarnates very strongly.
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And I don' t think it' s good for you. There
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it is not personalization, but to make the democratic process that is already very
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weak the country. We are talking about democracy, we are talking about democracy,
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but we really have a very low, very low and intense dress,
45:06
because there can be no democracy if I do not have the rule of law.
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Let us say prioritized in terms of values, not discourses, but values
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for society as a whole and democracy. I don' t remember if it
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was Bauma or I was saying that there is no democracy if there is no
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dialogue, because democracy is that, it is dialogue. What do you think
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the answer is very complicated, but I say what do you notice that in
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yours after my law, it goes better, it goes more or less,
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it goes well. What will be the political alternative Miley, where he comes
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from. In ultra- right times, permanent manipulation of Fate News networks.
45:45
The President is not the only one, say, transmism, he is a
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specialist in this. We saw it in the June presidential debate. I say
45:54
what kind of lience, how this is ordered, let' s say,
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you see it difficult at this time. He' s not afraid that something
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like that can' t come out, but on the left, by calling
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it that, I mean, look, I' d tell you how it
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' s ordered. I don' t know how to order them, not
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even good in Argentina or in the world of aja people of those three scenes
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that marked you before, there isn' t yet. There is not yet
46:23
a conceptual model, more or less universal to be able to explain to us
46:30
the phenomena that in many cases have quite peder linked to the crisis, to
46:37
representativity, to the personalisms, to the populisms, which also have in vouchers
46:45
particularities depending on how these macro phenomena are they have gone in each country and
46:52
neither for that reason do I have a conceptual framework to be able to anticipate,
46:58
as a bit decadenary, to what is going to happen in Argentina all
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over the world. I tend to think that if cultural change is really absent,
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even if it is now let' s say wandering off a shore or
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I think of bellena. I believe that it exists in cultural terms is authentic.
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We are going to make a qualitative leap in terms of social political behaviors.
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I think there' s going to be a different mission. Let'
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s see in the Argentines we have a very popular structure, very provided,
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very developed recently. I believe that this is almost exhausted too and, if
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you notice it, you are voting for forgiveness. The issue of the Argentine
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market is almost exhausted, exhausted in conceptual terms, demage in affected and I
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think that people are starting to turn this from conception, not this party that
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I had until quite a short time ago to do how is the opinion or
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last ones that I did when everything is right, but the model but if
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the file model of milay Fasha to see me one thing that has always been
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said is that he told me yes, the State here there is that say
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that lp there please let me be pretty let' s say to go.
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That' s very good. Dale, Dale, Dale, Dale. I
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don' t think what' s coming is anything. Peronism does not come
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if there is not a profiting Christinist model. Yeah, here' s what
48:34
I want to tell you. There is probably a palanism, but it is
48:37
the more runaway Peronism the center and less eschatist, with more acceptance of certain
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parameters linked to the vast public, etc, etc, etc, with the
48:51
size of the State. Yes, that' s what I think, and
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I think that if this happens, it' s going to be one of
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the most valuable things that can leave Mileism beyond supro another proga. Failure or
49:07
failure, yes and regardless of whether or not you can win the Nobel Prize.
49:16
But I think what' s coming, what' s coming is something
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different that I might take. Let' s say I don' t know
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mass, let' s say economic ganism, but at the same time also
49:37
certain parameters incursed to the social democrats. Let' s say the role of
49:39
the state, yes, in the arming of social dynamics. Without a doubt,
49:45
well, Nestor Kisner, who was a character with a lot of political
49:49
cunning, took into account that already from the bonanza the devaluation of that they
49:52
cleaned the adual terrain of the bath. I took this issue of overcoming and
49:55
twin into account. Let' s say above all the prosecutor who was very
49:59
important as Polis sustains. Then he got lost, not but good. It
50:01
was not obviously lost, but it was completely distorted, making public works for
50:09
personal pockets, wantés, pockets of politics. So, yeah, yeah,
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yeah, totally, totally evaluate, you have to rate it. Yeah.
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Yeah, yeah? Yeah? Yeah. In French there was a particular phenomenon
50:22
that I think many of us celebrate. He braked to the far right.
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It went well, it continued to win in votes on the ultra- right,
50:30
in the second round, but well it was then third. In terms
50:31
of benches, it seemed a little fresh air. We also see the division
50:36
that exists on the left of that alliance between six and seven parties, with
50:39
a pig that is the leader who is a kind of European chavista. I
50:45
say the way to stop it is this, but it' s easier to
50:50
unite, but then not rule, that is, than what lesson. He
50:52
gave you a little look at the Commission. Frances, the second round.
50:55
I, despite what some French think, go many French, I think this
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Parón has been very brave and almost insmologist. It was immolated, well cooled,
51:09
it' s not all immolous inside France. Val día is there on
51:13
site, but apparently won the end of the leadership to sustain in the European
51:20
Community. But beyond that. What you have to go to now is who
51:23
you can ally with. I see that possible alliances with the sectors of the
51:29
left, which I do not know everyone, but I am not in the
51:31
specialist in Spanish politics, in the political system to do. But I think
51:37
it' s going to be very difficult to find points of coincidence between the
51:45
votes he needs are not going to look for them, but on the left,
51:49
to see just as it' s not true outside the left, that
51:55
it' s not going to electorally accompany him. Yeah, well, it
52:00
' ll have to be treat, well, that' ll depend on the
52:04
whole arming of that left- wing guy. That' s why the Prime
52:06
Minister is proposing and so on, because it' s going to be hard
52:10
for Macron to rule with someone from France who' s insubmissive, that is,
52:15
someone from the left end. I will have to be the most social
52:16
democrat and so on, not the same, but the residual waste that we
52:22
could actually achieve. How many bands you reach. It wasn' t going
52:27
to be easy anyway and the line will also have a position in the Community,
52:30
not just inside France. I think that' s gonna make up for
52:36
a little bit. The pain has to feel with the sacrifice he made.
52:42
What was done, a sacrifice having absolute clarity about the scenarios that were presented
52:46
to him. Or it was a time of pride that the truth that did
52:51
not understand us yes for the electoral summons. After the strong defeat in the
52:54
European parliamentarians, let us remember the listener seemed somewhat reckless, some of them,
53:00
perhaps with a certain certainty that he was playing it to wear, that,
53:04
knowing that he was going to lose and that he was going to co
53:07
- rule a cohabitation with the ultra- right, he was betting on the
53:10
wear and tear in the day to day in the management of the ultra-
53:14
right for the presidential ones if I am not mistaken in two years, well,
53:16
there, after that wear and tear, back to power. Or that
53:16
the center center left again would be stronger. And there it came out to
53:22
me, yes, sorry, sorry, because the truth I hear is not
53:25
that you don' t listen to yourself say. Then I have to add
53:30
up I didn' t think you would say, before not letting go of
53:35
Argentina, that there is an issue that you are very concerned about. In
53:37
relation to the references, let us decide at the beginning the topic, the
53:45
topic that had illuminated discredit with politics and lack of representation. The pelí political
53:52
representation is the demand of included, excluded more destroyed. And the subject is
54:01
not only included excluded from the economy is included gins also from the law.
54:08
He' ll be inside the operating code of a society. In this context,
54:15
you are joved by the issue of justice. And because we talk about
54:22
the rule of law, but there is no rule of law, but I
54:25
have confidence, confidence in justice and confidence that the things are the same for
54:30
everyone. So this issue that you are discussing in Argentina is not sufficiently,
54:36
because I think it has still been left to the level of diligence, but
54:42
it has not gone down. Not all that should be lowered to the level
54:45
of the ordinary citizen 100 nil of the organizations is the subject of the appointment
54:50
of judges. Speaking, I think that part of the references, part of
54:54
the reference is trust, is trust and law, and that there is no
55:00
immunity. Then I believe that the judge who told you must be a tried
55:07
judge, not only competent, but tried and respected anteffers. Moreover, there
55:14
must be judicial proceedings that do not really generate or strengthen or sustain impolity.
55:23
Let' s say he has the caste, which is what he really treed,
55:30
my law treed it, and I think it' s failing a lot
55:34
and a lot here. Then I think it' s something for this,
55:39
it' s something to keep in mind. Finally, there is the debate
55:45
on the candidature of the son to the Court. How you should sometimes come
55:49
and have the gennerist support and caste of mileism and Quignerism will be queer on
55:54
this issue. Let' s say a judge without presenting him as the son,
56:00
but they already said yes here in which I think they can twist this
56:06
tendency are the radicals. The roots are also divided. I don' t
56:08
know what percentage, but I think it' s a little bit thick.
56:13
The one who is finally clearly a judge, regardless of the son, independently,
56:21
would not ask me what would happen if there were not enough evidence regarding
56:28
children, which I think there are and suddenly all the organizations linked to the
56:37
right to the law, to the university sector, the referents of all kinds
56:46
in the Gentina Republic spoke out against the son. I think the only ones
56:51
that came out in favour are the political sector. However, what a real
56:58
democrat would have done. I think with the truth democrat I should hear you
57:05
hear or at least put it on mo is called in between everything, I
57:08
' m going to hear why people are saying what they' re saying.
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Thank you for the yes. I ran out of time. Thank you.
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As always, it' s a big kiss, a beja, granlotte cha
57:23
cha chao. Thank you very much, thank you the rose tree here under
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construction prural. We leave tomorrow at 13 o' clock, at 4 o
57:29
' clock, at 3 o' clock, because we have two hours programs,
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so at 13 o' clock we go here as Juan and Silvia.
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Thank you so much. It will be until tomorrow plural construction. Driven by
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Fernando Mauri by Radio Tren topic