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Jaguars vs Ravens NFL DFS Showdown | TNF Week 9 Showdown Shippers | Picks, Plays & Process · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All systems go.
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  Speaker 2: Clear for liftoff.
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  Speaker 3: What's up, everyone? Tyler Tamburlian here, a.k.a.
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  Speaker 4: ToeTag and Tambo, back for another edition of Showdown Shippers
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  Speaker 4: here on the Ship It Nation YouTube station. We got
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  Speaker 4: Thursday Night Football edition, got the Jags at the Ravens.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna talk all about that from the captains, the ownership,
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  Speaker 4: the roster construction, the composition there. Bit of a wild
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  Speaker 4: slate waiting on a little bit of injury news. We'll
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  Speaker 4: talk about the toot and stuff in a minute, but
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  Speaker 4: the expected thought right now is that he's going to
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  Speaker 4: be out. Got Hoop, got Title here with me as usual,
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  Speaker 4: and Hoop's.
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  Speaker 3: Harping a little bit of a.
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  Speaker 4: A less of a voice than usual, but Hoop, I'll
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  Speaker 4: let you say a few words on the way in
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  Speaker 4: and we'll only go to you sparingly.
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  Speaker 3: So how's it going?
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  Speaker 1: I hit up the fellows earlier. I said, I'm going to,
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be here, but the voice is a
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  Speaker 1: little rough. I literally, I think I've spoken 10 words
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  Speaker 1: prior to hopping on the show. I wanted to preserve it.
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  Speaker 1: I took the kids to the bus stop this morning
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  Speaker 1: and they both looked at me like, what is wrong
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  Speaker 1: with you? Like your voice sounds weird. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I'm going to, that's the last talking I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing for the day. I went to the gym, got
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  Speaker 1: my workout in. I've spoken zero words to anyone up
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  Speaker 1: until this point. So we'll see. how long it lasts.
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  Speaker 1: It's feeling a little bit better. I don't even feel sick.
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  Speaker 1: It's just the voice thing. So I'm here to talk
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  Speaker 1: through this game and yeah, we'll, we'll see how it goes.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. You showed up, man. It's the best game of
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  Speaker 4: the year too. Thank goodness you're here. Cause this one
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  Speaker 4: is going to be a bit wild title. What's going on,
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  Speaker 4: my friend, how you doing?
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  Speaker 2: Doing well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Not a game that we love in terms of, I mean,
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  Speaker 5: 10 point favorites, but anytime there's a lot of money
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  Speaker 5: up top, we'll take it any, any day of the.
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  Speaker 2: Week, week nine, it's hard to believe.
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, next thing you know, we'll be, I hate
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  Speaker 5: to say it, but while he's playing baseball in the summer,
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  Speaker 5: if they can make an agreement that is, if we're lucky, man,
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  Speaker 5: it could be even worse now.
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  Speaker 1: That I'm thinking about it.
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  Speaker 4: This guy is very, very pessimistic on a Thursday here.
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  Speaker 4: We love to see it just to bring him in.
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  Speaker 4: But it is a bit of an interesting slate. You know,
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  Speaker 4: you guys talked about it. Obviously, big time, you know,
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  Speaker 4: big time underdogs at home for the Ravens down to
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  Speaker 4: their third string quarterback, Joe Fagnano. So is that, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we're playing the Jacksonville Jaujars versus Joe Fagnano.
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  Speaker 3: If we're doing those pronunciations, I guess, for these names.
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  Speaker 4: But, you know, the Tootin' News, I guess, is a
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  Speaker 4: little bit interesting title. I'll start with you with Hoop
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  Speaker 4: being a bit under the weather. I think you'll have
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  Speaker 4: to give us the grand scheme overview today. But I
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  Speaker 4: will say that the Tootin' thing, somebody like went digging
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  Speaker 4: on X this morning or they pulled it and since
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  Speaker 4: the Liam Cohen era, sorry, Liam Cohen era, there's been
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  Speaker 4: 27 times that a Jag did not practice all week
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  Speaker 4: and all 27 times they didn't end up playing. And
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  Speaker 4: that's the case with Tootin right now. So people are
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  Speaker 4: kind of getting ahead of that. There's no like edge
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  Speaker 4: or angle. I think we all think that and already
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  Speaker 4: knew it anyway, but just so you know, that was
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  Speaker 4: one thing that was brought up there. And then the
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  Speaker 4: Brissette trade is still pending. Obviously it's nice that the
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  Speaker 4: Ravens went out and got him or I don't know
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  Speaker 4: what they call it.
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  Speaker 3: Who, who knows the Ravens? It has to be always pending.
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  Speaker 3: Just ask Max Crosby.
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  Speaker 4: But I think it's more about like, they just knew
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  Speaker 4: he couldn't play until after this weekend or this, whatever
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  Speaker 4: it sets up for. So this is the game we're getting,
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  Speaker 4: but give us your grand scheme overview here, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, it's going to be Jaguars heavy.
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  Speaker 5: Five ones is five ones, four twos, anything three, three
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  Speaker 5: or Ravens four, two is definitely different. And rightfully so
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  Speaker 5: just looking at the implied points on both sides, 25
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  Speaker 5: and 15, looking at Saberson, um, Like the cheap one
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  Speaker 5: or the one that I think is going to be
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  Speaker 5: pretty popular and that makes sense is Justice Hill, 3,200.
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  Speaker 5: If they are trailing, there's going to be a lot
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  Speaker 5: of dump downs. So how do you get different? Again,
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  Speaker 5: if you play three Baltimore, it gets you different. If
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  Speaker 5: you play a Baltimore captain, it gets you a little different.
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  Speaker 5: Looking at captain ownership, Parker Washington, Chris Rodriguez, assuming Tootin's out,
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  Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence are going to take up pretty much all
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  Speaker 5: of it.
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  Speaker 2: So anyone after that's a little different. I don't know.
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  Speaker 5: I'm curious to hear your guys' take on the slate.
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  Speaker 5: I'd be lying if I said I loved it for showdown,
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  Speaker 5: but it's football. Random stuff happened. We saw a spot
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  Speaker 5: not too long ago, the Bucs, 10-point dogs against the Cowboys,
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  Speaker 5: and they did it.
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  Speaker 2: So you never know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you always say, it's a good, you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's money on the line. Somebody's got to win it all.
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  Speaker 4: So that's the key part here. It doesn't mean, you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's a lot of things to love. But I do
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  Speaker 4: think somebody said it best in our Discord earlier. It
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  Speaker 4: might have even been, I think I saw him, I
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  Speaker 4: think Philly Phantom. And now he's calling it the big solo.
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  Speaker 4: He said earlier, though, I agree with him. He said,
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  Speaker 4: you could see a solo shipper tonight or you could
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  Speaker 4: see a thousand way chop. It's really hard to say
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  Speaker 4: because obviously if the Tootin' News shakes out, as we expect,
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  Speaker 4: you've got a Chris Rodriguez at fifty one hundred dollars.
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  Speaker 3: And 3,400 in the flex.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, if it ends up being that you
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  Speaker 4: just need all the best projected guys and how they
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  Speaker 4: fit together and like one move here, one move there,
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  Speaker 4: you could see it, but we've seen crazier things. And
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  Speaker 4: so we'll just play it accordingly. We will go through
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  Speaker 4: all of that hoop. Is there anything you want to
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  Speaker 4: add just to the, you know, first off the top
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  Speaker 4: and just what you're seeing with a slate when it
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  Speaker 4: kind of shakes out the way it has, we don't
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  Speaker 4: always see slates like this based on all the injuries,
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  Speaker 4: the pricing, all the offsetting stuff. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just tough to watch last week
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  Speaker 1: with Baltimore where they really just couldn't even move the
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  Speaker 1: football whatsoever. And then they have a tough matchup tonight.
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  Speaker 1: You know, short, short week against Jaguars defense is very solid.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It makes it difficult, but you know what everyone's going
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  Speaker 1: to be doing. I mean, everyone's going to be playing
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  Speaker 1: the Jaguars guys and you can do that as well,
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  Speaker 1: but like, just do it differently. Tons of leave tons
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  Speaker 1: of salary on the table. It's one of those slates
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  Speaker 1: for sure. where you want something ugly. You want the
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  Speaker 1: lineup to look a little off or look a little
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  Speaker 1: ugly because, yeah, I mean, if you just play it
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  Speaker 1: straight up and do a 5-1 Jacksonville, you're going to
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  Speaker 1: be splitting it with a bunch of people. So you've
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  Speaker 1: got to find different ways to do it. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I guess, again, the hard part here is like the Ravens,
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  Speaker 1: I don't even know what the total yardage or any
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  Speaker 1: of the numbers were last week, but they're just totally
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  Speaker 1: unable to do anything on offense with, how does this guy,
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  Speaker 1: how do you pronounce his name, Fagnano?
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  Speaker 3: No, Fagnano.
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  Speaker 1: Of course. I mean, come on, dude. This is the
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  Speaker 1: stuff that's annoying. Obviously, you've got to say that because
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  Speaker 1: as a kid, you would get made fun of with
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  Speaker 1: that beginning to your name, so you're going to change
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  Speaker 1: it around and make it seem like... Okay, so that guy,
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  Speaker 1: the Baltimore quarterback was unable to really do anything whatsoever,
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  Speaker 1: and that is the discouraging part because it is now
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  Speaker 1: a short week, and then you have to face a
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  Speaker 1: good offense here. They're projected to score like 14 tonight,
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  Speaker 1: so it's like need to try to make the case
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  Speaker 1: for something here, but it is very difficult. And the
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  Speaker 1: one thing I will say is, you know, with Chris
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  Speaker 1: Rodriguez being so cheap, right? I mean, super, super cheap.
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  Speaker 1: Like it gives you the opportunity to build some teams
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  Speaker 1: a little different because a lot of people just naturally
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  Speaker 1: be looking to fill up the salary. Like, and you
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  Speaker 1: need to envision in your head that he's $ 10, 000. His
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  Speaker 1: price tag is 3,400, right? So I would be in
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  Speaker 1: those lineups with him, almost if you're hand-building, say, all right,
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  Speaker 1: I'm taking $ 6, 000 off the table. I'm playing this guy
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  Speaker 1: like he's a $ 10, 000 running back because that's where he
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  Speaker 1: should be tonight. He should be assuming that Tootin's out,
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  Speaker 1: which has to be the case, and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: talk assuming that is the case. He would be a $ 9, 000
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  Speaker 1: running back, whatever it may be. So play him like
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  Speaker 1: he's a $ 9, 000 running back and build your teams accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: That's one thing that kind of stands out to me here.
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  Speaker 4: I like all that. I think that's where the, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the quote unquote edge could come in tonight. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: it doesn't mean it's going to work out in your favor,
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  Speaker 4: but obviously if you're building for something a bit different
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  Speaker 4: and we'll talk more about that when we get to
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  Speaker 4: the captains here in a second, the Trevor Lords conversation, but.
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  Speaker 3: I did look it up.
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  Speaker 4: The, the Jags versus will be, you know, like someone
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  Speaker 4: said in junior high, they might say something different to him,
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  Speaker 4: but the Jags versus the Fonz, the Fonz is a
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  Speaker 4: baby deer.
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  Speaker 3: Jags do eat deer.
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  Speaker 4: So it could be a bad night for the Ravens
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  Speaker 4: with Foniano at the quarterback. If you really want to
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  Speaker 4: sound it out that way, but yeah, Title, the captain conversation.
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  Speaker 3: We could start there.
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  Speaker 4: Nade said it in the chat about Trevor Lawrence pushing 25%.
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  Speaker 4: I will say, I don't remember the last time we
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  Speaker 4: used the stone over Chippin Nation. It comes through in
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  Speaker 4: the clutch pretty often for us. I don't remember seeing
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  Speaker 4: a captain optimal this high.
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  Speaker 3: On a quarterback.
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  Speaker 4: That is obviously we get Jameer Gibbs on the slate.
• 8:26
  Speaker 4: We get Bijan on the slate. These, these guys pop
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  Speaker 4: up to that number, but I don't remember seeing a
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  Speaker 4: quarterback with that high of a number. And I think
• 8:33
  Speaker 4: a lot of people worry about like, how does he
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  Speaker 4: get there again? Short-sighted, I think too. What happened on Sunday? Well,
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  Speaker 4: the Jags put up 30 something in the first half
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  Speaker 4: or whatever it was, and he did nothing and it
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  Speaker 4: wasn't needed.
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  Speaker 3: And all it's only one slate one game now this
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  Speaker 3: like it.
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  Speaker 4: Obviously he could be part of it maybe they throw
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  Speaker 4: three touchdowns and it isn't Chris Rodriguez this time or
• 8:51
  Speaker 4: whatever it might be who knows depending but what's your
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  Speaker 4: thoughts in the captain with the Trevor Lawrence stuff and
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  Speaker 4: then bring us around everywhere.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah it makes sense with his rushing ability the ability
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  Speaker 5: to spread it out not as many teams not many
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  Speaker 5: teams are like Parker Jacoby Brian Thomas strange can throw
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  Speaker 5: it to his running backs QB sneak so he has
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  Speaker 5: so many ways to get there where you don't you
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  Speaker 5: don't get in you don't get boxed into the same
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  Speaker 5: build when playing him with like passing quarterbacks. So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: definitely a play in Trevor Lawrence, probably pretty heavy. I'm
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  Speaker 5: always playing Parker Washington. C-Rod's the interesting one because man,
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  Speaker 5: you have to leave heaps of salary. I feel like, again,
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  Speaker 5: assuming Tootin's out, even if Tootin was in though, Chris
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  Speaker 5: Rodriguez is a good play. I mean, maybe you could
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  Speaker 5: argue a better play depending on what ownership will look
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  Speaker 5: like each way. But if Tootin's out, I don't know
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  Speaker 5: how much C-Rod I'll get at captain. Again, trying to
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  Speaker 5: get a little different. I prefer Parker and Trevor more.
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  Speaker 5: And if you do, you've got to leave 5K, 6K.
• 9:47
  Speaker 5: Like Hoop said, he made a really good point. Price
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  Speaker 5: him like he's 10K because he's underpriced for sure. Derrick
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  Speaker 5: Henry is the interesting one. When you play him, I
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  Speaker 5: think three, three Ravens builds for two Ravens builds make
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  Speaker 5: a lot of sense. Cause you're playing for them to
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  Speaker 5: be in the lead or pretty close. And then justice Hills,
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  Speaker 5: the obvious run back in a lot of five, one, four,
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  Speaker 5: two Jake stuff.
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  Speaker 2: When they blow them out. I don't know how much
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  Speaker 2: I like out. I'm curious here.
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  Speaker 5: Your take Derek Henry and justice Hill teams together. Like
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  Speaker 5: if they are leading, are they just going to pound it?
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  Speaker 5: And then justice Hill is not going to play much.
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  Speaker 5: Curious here, your take on that. Um, Say Flowers is expensive.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to play a lot of Baltimore Ravens quarterback.
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  Speaker 5: I'm going to keep calling him like Hoop did, but
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  Speaker 5: he's so cheap. And like Hoop says, you get the
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  Speaker 5: ball every single play. So, yeah, what's your take on
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  Speaker 5: the Derrick Henry, Justice Hill, same lineup stuff if the
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  Speaker 5: Ravens are competitive?
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  Speaker 3: If they're competitive, I don't see it. But again, I
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  Speaker 3: can be wrong about a lot of things.
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  Speaker 4: I think Justice Hill is awesome because he's 200 bucks
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  Speaker 4: less than Chris Rodriguez.
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  Speaker 3: You can play him together.
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  Speaker 4: There's so many different things you could do, but I
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  Speaker 4: like it because expecting them to be trailing, that's a build.
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  Speaker 4: Will some people get there?
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  Speaker 3: Sure they will.
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  Speaker 4: But it's like, again, can do it with money on
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  Speaker 4: the table, can flip the captains, the popular captain of
• 10:54
  Speaker 4: whatever that build fills out, just flip a.
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  Speaker 3: Captain in it or something like that.
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  Speaker 2: It works.
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  Speaker 4: But I think Derrick Henry becomes more interesting in a,
• 11:03
  Speaker 4: you know, we can circle back to it. It's not
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  Speaker 4: like a, you know, we tried to talk hoop into
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  Speaker 4: it the other night with DeAndre Swift. He ended up
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  Speaker 4: being the top captain that was in the big lineup.
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  Speaker 4: But it had to go that way. And that's what I, again,
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  Speaker 4: do we think the Ravens do it tonight?
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  Speaker 3: Probably not.
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  Speaker 4: Um, you know, yeah, they're at home, whatever, whatever, a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more time, by the way, that's, that's the
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: thing about, uh, Finiano there. He comes into the game
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  Speaker 4: as the third string after a big injury to Lamar
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  Speaker 4: after an injury to Huntley. I'm not saying the guys
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  Speaker 4: good are going to be great. I'm just saying, it's
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: nice to kind of know your situation and probably feel
• 11:33
  Speaker 4: a lot better starting a game after having some practices
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  Speaker 4: in and getting a heads up and spending some like,
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  Speaker 4: I actually got to get dialed in now versus thinking
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  Speaker 4: you're never coming in the game. I know you're supposed
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  Speaker 4: to always be ready. I'm sure he is. doesn't make
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  Speaker 4: it any easier. I'm just saying it's certainly a possibility.
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  Speaker 2: He was set up to fail. I agree. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 4: And for one game tonight, again, no one's sitting here
• 11:51
  Speaker 4: saying bet the house on this guy. It's just saying
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  Speaker 4: it does make it at least somewhat interesting from that perspective.
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  Speaker 4: I think when we get to it later, the Jags
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: D might be the highest OMD we've seen yet this season,
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  Speaker 4: even with the price restriction of being almost 6K. And again,
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  Speaker 4: could only be 30, 35%, but that's still quite heavy
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  Speaker 4: down there.
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  Speaker 3: And we'll get to that later.
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  Speaker 4: But From a captain perspective, I think if you've got
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  Speaker 4: Derrick Henry up top, I'm not really thinking about Justice Hill.
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  Speaker 4: I would think about– this is nuts probably, but on
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  Speaker 4: the other side, if you have Chris Rodriguez up top,
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  Speaker 4: I would still think about Abdullah because it's saying– the
• 12:24
  Speaker 4: game script is saying– people are going to say, where
• 12:25
  Speaker 4: the hell do you spend the money?
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  Speaker 3: That's the point.
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  Speaker 2: You don't.
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  Speaker 4: I just don't look at it as $ 50, 000 anymore. If
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  Speaker 4: I spend $ 40, 000 and the lineup makes sense, that's a
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  Speaker 4: great lineup then because it actually could get there. People
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: get– sidetracked by the pricing and all this stuff, right?
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  Speaker 3: It goes both ways. Sometimes, you know, it's a, this
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  Speaker 3: guy should not be this cheap.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: But what is his real role tonight? Why would he
• 12:44
  Speaker 4: all of a sudden become a top guy? Well, just
• 12:46
  Speaker 4: his price. Well, that doesn't solve it. We're saying in reverse,
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  Speaker 4: this guy has a real role tonight. Assuming tootings out
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  Speaker 4: Chris Rodriguez, that is. He just happens to be 5,100
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  Speaker 4: up top and you got to figure the rest out
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  Speaker 4: from there. But if it was a Bijon, Brian Robinson,
• 12:59
  Speaker 4: it's not, I'm just saying if it was, and this
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: is the same spot and all that you would put
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  Speaker 4: an 11 K or actually it'd be a lot more
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  Speaker 4: probably be like 15 K Bijon, 16 K Bijon up top.
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  Speaker 4: And the three K we saw it when twice, didn't
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  Speaker 4: we in showdown with Brian Robinson and the flex. So
• 13:13
  Speaker 4: you just have to think like that based on the
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  Speaker 4: pricing we have at hand. It's, it's going to be
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  Speaker 4: a little bit crazy for your builds, but certainly a
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  Speaker 4: possibility tonight. T-Law does run it enough, spread it out enough.
• 13:25
  Speaker 4: I mean, you got Myers, Brian Thomas Jr., Parker Washington,
• 13:28
  Speaker 4: Brenton Strange. I don't really care that he's over-owned. I
• 13:32
  Speaker 4: can just stay with the field and build differently and
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: hope that that works out, but he can definitely spread
• 13:36
  Speaker 4: it around enough.
• 13:37
  Speaker 3: Derek Henry, if I'm going for it on the other side.
• 13:39
  Speaker 4: And I think Zay Flowers is going to mix into
• 13:42
  Speaker 4: more of a, probably more of a 3-3, 2-4 type
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: of build. And everyone calls that stuff differently. I'm always
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: talking about it with the lead number being the captain.
• 13:51
  Speaker 4: I know people usually go off the underdog versus the favorite.
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: I don't care.
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: I'm just calling it like it is.
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: If I got Zay up top in a 2-4, it
• 13:58
  Speaker 4: means Zay up top, somebody in flex, and four Jags
• 14:02
  Speaker 4: when I say 2-4. 3-3, him up top, two Ravens.
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: three Jags in the flex like that. That's how I'm
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: thinking about those guys. But beyond that, not too much
• 14:10
  Speaker 4: else for me. Who, what about you? Yeah.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: So up top, it's like Trevor Lawrence. I mean, it
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: all makes sense. The reason why he's going to be
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: the most popular, he will spread it out. He will
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: run it. I mean, he'll, he can do just a
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: little bit of everything. So it's like the perfect quarterback
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: to have in the, in the captain spot, just because he's,
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: We've seen it all season where he will spread it out.
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: He'll give a little to Jacoby Myers. We saw Brian
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: Thomas catch the touchdown last week, and then he has
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington, and he will throw it to the running backs,
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: and he will run it. So he's like the perfect
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: sort of captain play. for sure, and he's going to
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: be the highest owned. After that, for me, it's definitely
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez. Make it a weird, ugly sort of team.
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: Don't make it Chris Rodriguez, Trevor Lawrence, Derrick Henry, the
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: Baltimore quarterback. Don't build it like that. I thought, as
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: you guys were talking, I just went in and built
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: a nasty-ass team that you can definitely envision being on
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: the winner. Chris Rodriguez, captain, the Ravens quarterback, Abdullah for
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: a thousand Jags D right. You have fourteen thousand eight
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: hundred and fifty dollars left per spot per spot. So
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: it's just you're going to leave a massive, massive chunk
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: no matter what you do. And that's what you should
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: be looking to do in those Chris Rodriguez teams. It
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: should look ugly. It shouldn't have the big names, all
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: the big names in there. Yes, you can have some
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: of them, but just don't jam all the big names
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: in there. With Chris Rodriguez up top, it's stupid. If
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: it does hit, that'll probably be the biggest chop on
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: the slate. If that lineup does get there, it'll be
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: a massive chop. Make it look ugly if playing him
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: up top, but I do like him a lot. Assuming
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: he tunes out, he has a legitimate chance to be
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: the high-scoring guy on the slate. Multiple touchdowns, the guy is... legit.
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: He's not like a shitty backup guy. Like he can,
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: he can play ball. So I do like him up top,
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: you know, and then it's like Parker Washington, fine with him,
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: but it does, it is a night where I'll be
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: going to be looking to keep it tight up top.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: I don't want to play Zay Flowers. I mean, I
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: cannot trust this guy to get him the ball. I mean,
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: the guy was 10 for 21 last week. Zay Flowers
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: had five targets, zero catches. they clearly are moving on
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: immediately after this game to a new quarterback. They have
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: no faith in the guy. What are they going to
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: want to do here? They're going to want to jam
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: it with Derrick Henry, obviously. They're going to want to
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: jam it with him. How long will that last for? Like,
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: do they get down two touchdowns? Is it over? Yeah, probably.
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: So I would have some Derrick Henry up top just
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: in case maybe it does work and he can break
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: one off. So I'll just kind of rank my guys.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: It's going to be Trevor Lawrence. It'll be Chris Rodriguez.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I guess Parker Washington. I guess Parker Washington, but I
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: don't love him up there. It's just kind of by default.
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: And then Derrick Henry would be like my fourth, I guess. Yeah.
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: And I would say too, if I didn't mention it,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: I mean, I really, I do like Parker Washington up top,
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: because I think that's where the flip can come from.
• 17:14
  Speaker 3: A lot of those Lawrence lineups, you're going to still
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: have it spread out in the flex maybe, but you
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: could just say it is Parker Washington is the guy
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: up top.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: It's also, I think something like that, where this works,
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: I'll go back to it because title brought it up.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: We're going back to title anyway, for quarterback and more,
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: anything else he wants to add, but this is possible.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Anything's possible.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: You guys know my boy, Kevin Garnett, you know, anything
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: is possible, but I still don't even see this working.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: We were talking about Henry in the captain. I mean,
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: you're going to need Henry to bust out an 80
• 17:40
  Speaker 4: yard touchdown. And then even if they went down or whatever,
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: I mean, I just, I don't know how they're not.
• 17:45
  Speaker 4: My point is if it is Henry bust that out
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: and they're leading and winning and crushing and going off,
• 17:49
  Speaker 4: then I don't.
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: See why justice Hill is required later on.
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: What I think in flex definitely makes more sense and
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: playable together because that's where it's like, the other side
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: is all Parker Washington or like it's you know, Lawrence Washington,
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: the kicker, the D and.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: Then whatever else. It makes more sense with the guys
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: in the flex than with one of them in captain,
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: because you're, you're looking for two middling performances. You, when,
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: when you play Derrick Henry up top, you need a
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: ceiling performance and then the other guy to, to get
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: something decent as well. If they're both in the flex,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: you can find two middling, middling outcomes and it still works.
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: It would be like a low super low scoring game
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: or something and then even then why is justice hill
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: the guy after that it's more i think justice hill
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: is much more interesting when we get to a lineup
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: where it's the you're thinking the jags did their job
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: and then it came down to it i was trying
• 18:42
  Speaker 4: to check the um the backups there but it's not
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: coming up so we'll leave it but anyway So, Ty,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: I'll kick it back to you on that just to see,
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: did you want to add any more captains to what
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: you'd already brought up or anything else after we get
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: that clarity? And if not, you can talk to us
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: about just flex usage and that factor when it comes
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: down to Lawrence and, you know, both quarterbacks not using them,
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: different factors people always like to know.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, the more I listen to what you said
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: about Rodriguez and like, yeah, you can really leave so
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: much money and still build some solid. I'll probably get
• 19:14
  Speaker 5: more than I initially thought. It's a running back favored
• 19:17
  Speaker 5: by a lot. He should get the bulk of the work. Like,
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: if Tootin's out, I mean, he's already a backup anyway
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: to an extent. So why would they not give him
• 19:24
  Speaker 5: the ball 15, 20-plus times? Yeah, plus 100 to score
• 19:29
  Speaker 5: right now. Tootin just went to plus 105. So C-Rod's
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: the most likely to score in this game. I got
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: to have probably more interest than I initially did. Other
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: than that, though, no. I'll probably be underweight. I might
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: just get overweight Trevor, C-Rod, and Parker Washington. I mean,
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: they're all showing 24, 13, 15. You got 25 of
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: all of them, even 30 of all of them. You're
• 19:50
  Speaker 5: overweight there and underweight everyone else. So I think I'm
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: going to be pretty chalky up top.
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: We'll get to this one later. Adam G brought it up.
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: His name is Josh Cuevas, but it does kind of
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: look like Jose Cuervo.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: So the tequila master, man. And then someone said earlier.
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: About Joey F.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: You call him Joey Smoke. Joey Smokes, man.
• 20:09
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• 20:11
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• 20:14
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• 20:17
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• 20:20
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• 20:22
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• 20:25
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• 20:28
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• 20:30
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• 20:32
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• 20:34
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• 20:36
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• 20:38
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• 20:41
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• 20:47
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• 20:49
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• 20:53
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• 20:56
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• 21:11
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• 21:12
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• 21:16
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• 21:19
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• 21:21
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• 21:23
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• 21:26
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• 21:28
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• 21:30
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• 21:31
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• 21:35
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• 21:37
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• 21:43
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• 21:45
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• 21:48
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• 21:53
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• 21:53
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• 21:59
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• 21:59
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• 22:03
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  Speaker 4: who's going to get what or how it's going to
• 22:07
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• 22:14
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• 22:17
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• 22:29
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• 22:31
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• 22:47
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• 22:51
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• 23:11
  Speaker 3: There's no later payoff package, nothing like that.
• 23:14
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• 23:16
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• 23:18
  Speaker 3: If you want to check it out.
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: So.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: Bring it back to you guys here. Hoop, anything else
• 23:23
  Speaker 3: you wanted to add at quarterback?
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Title went through it a little bit, but anything else
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: you want to add to those guys just from a
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: flex perspective? Someone did mention it earlier. I guess one
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: angle would be leaving Joey F out because he was
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: already getting some injuries going into this. He's kind of
• 23:38
  Speaker 4: wearing that little boot thing on the field the other day,
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: but I think they think he's fine. It's just how
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: does he perform? But I'm sure there'll be tons of
• 23:43
  Speaker 4: lineups without him anyway, as it is. He's only 30-ish
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: percent in the flex.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the main thing. It's like the quarterbacks that
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: are like 30, around 30-ish percent. And we see it
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: from time to time. It's usually the really shitty ones
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: on the teams that aren't projected to score many points,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: which is what we have here tonight. So, I mean,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: just for that reason, he's appealing and talk about it
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: always mean they get to essentially touch the ball almost
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: every single play. So there's definitely opportunity there. So anytime
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: quarterbacks come in that low in the flex, there's some
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: interest there. And then, you know, Trevor Lawrence will be
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: massively owned. The combination of captain and flex ownership is
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: going to be through the roof because it's going to
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: be very easy to play him, and he's very likely
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: to be on the optimal lineup. But, yeah, the only
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: thing that really stands out to me is the Baltimore guy,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: you know, 30-ish percent owned.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's crazy, too.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: Lawrence is going to be– we see it with Josh Allen,
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: I guess, sometimes, but Lawrence is going to be 90-something
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: percent plus owned. across the board tonight. I know it's
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: not that crazy.
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: I'm just noting it.
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: It's like, that's for a, a jag spot or a
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: game like this. You don't often see it, but for,
• 24:52
  Speaker 4: for the way this slate sets up, it's just so
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: automatic to put him in. And as you saw with
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Lamar last game, anything can happen on that first play. Not,
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: not cheering for it for sure. Don't want to start
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: that one up again. Andrew, My man, we're going to
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: answer this in a minute when we get to the
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: wide receiver. But in the meantime, why don't you tell
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: us how the sales are going today? But at the
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: used car lot or the construction zone, we said he's
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: a used car salesman. How's the construction.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Sales going today? You let us know, man.
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: But running back title, I'll go back to you. We've
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: already had the Rodriguez conversation, but we did blend in Abdullah.
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: We blended in Justice Hill. We talked about different scenarios
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: and how you could use them. they're getting talked up
• 25:27
  Speaker 4: a little.
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: Abdul is getting like nothing.
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: And once they took the big lead last game, I don't, again,
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: I know they had toot and then they had Rodriguez,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: but now if tootings already not playing as we expect,
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: maybe they want to protect your Rodriguez a little bit
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: more like last game. They didn't use them at all
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: in the second half, really after, you know, they did
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: their damage. So what are you thinking about Abdullah here?
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: And then the rest of the running backs as a whole.
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm definitely going to play some Abdullah. I mean,
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: to get different on the slate for where the value
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: is going to go. Obviously, Rodriguez really cheap. Justice Hill
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: is cheap after that kickers, Jaguars defense.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you can't really like everyone's going to leave money.
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: That's why Trevor Lawrence is going to be so highly
• 26:05
  Speaker 5: owned because he's projected for four point four over the
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: next highest projected, which is Parker Washington. And you could
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: argue he should be like one or two K cheaper
• 26:14
  Speaker 5: or one K, one or two K more expensive. So
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: when you're talking value, it's going to be very concentrated.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: If Abdullah, if they are out to a big leader,
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: if somehow Abdullah does outscore Justice Hill or some of
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: those guys, kickers, defense, you can leave 5K right there,
• 26:29
  Speaker 5: pass catching back. What's his touchdown prop? Plus 600. I mean,
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: not great, but not terrible. So, yeah, I'm going to
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: play some Abdullah. Trying to think my favorite ways to
• 26:41
  Speaker 5: play him, if it's with Chris Rodriguez or not. I
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: think it is probably. And just hoping Chris Rodriguez does
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: it early, Abdullah does it late.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Justice Hill, even though he is getting ownership, it just
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: makes so much sense.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: With Joey wanting to check everything down, 10-point dogs, you
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: can leave tons of money. He could outscore Zay Flowers
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: for 6K cheaper, 7K, whatever it is. So, yeah, Justice
• 27:04
  Speaker 5: Hill probably with C-Rod, and I'll just naturally be underway
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: Derek Henry, I think, since I think Jaguars put it
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: to him.
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, something to be said, too, just for the breakdown
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: of it all, because I know we're going to be
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: going into more of this in a second. But when
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: you look at the mixture of the values, it's like, OK,
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: most people would have if Lawrence or Washington up top
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: probably still thinks about Rodriguez in the flex. but then
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: people that next move would be to go to justice
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: hill because that's the type of lineup where they're going
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: to be down and we want to come back. And
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: that's where you're seeing, obviously you're seeing 50% plus on
• 27:37
  Speaker 4: Rodriguez in the flex. You're still seeing 15 to 20%
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: on justice hill. It's no secret, but the idea is
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: also is if Lawrence and Washington or Meyer, whoever you
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: use up top or strange, whatever it is to get ahead,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: that could also be when it's Abdullah time later on.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: And if Abdullah is, outscores if he outscores um justice
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: hill it could already be good for you but there
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: is some world where he outscores both because if it's
• 28:01
  Speaker 4: not rodriguez scoring the points early and it's just some
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: you know what does he get 12 rushes for 50
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: yards and whatever else whatever else and then late in
• 28:09
  Speaker 4: the game abdullah gets a touchdown and a few big
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: runs or something like that that could actually be um
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: it's the most it's probably the least likely scenario but
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: it's the craziest one where it would really outdo a
• 28:19
  Speaker 4: lot of lineups in a unique way so just something
• 28:21
  Speaker 4: to think about there but i definitely think some abdullah
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: in the um what in the hill spot i i
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: don't think there's gonna be a lot of five ones
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: with just hill right it would probably hill and somebody
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: else in a four two more likely it's possible but
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: i'm saying what's more likely but i'm saying if it's
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: a four two with hill and makes sense you could
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: still convert it to a five one with abdullah it
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: probably already had money on the table and now it
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: has even more so that's kind of how i'm thinking
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: about that henry fine I mean, Henry and a five,
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: one for the Jags makes a ton of sense too,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: to me still, because like he just gets the touchdown,
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: he gets the yards and none of the other Ravens
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: come through, but obviously you can make the case. If
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: it's not him, are people going to leave a five,
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: one with just Bateman or just lane or just Andrews or.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Something like that.
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: So there's, there's some unique five ones that you can
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: make for sure, but there'll be gross with what they
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: look like and the salary left on the table to most,
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: but who, anything you want to add here at the
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: running back position. Yeah.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: We talked a lot about these guys. I mean, Rodriguez,
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: phenomenal play. Like him, obviously, in all formats. And again,
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: play him as if he's like a 9 or 10K
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: running back. That would be my one piece of advice.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Good with Justice Hill, Abdullah, and then even mix in
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: some Allen. But the one interesting talking point is the
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Derrick Henry stuff, just from like an ownership perspective, because
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: the spot's horrible for him and the Ravens as a whole.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: He's very expensive at 10, too. And we have a
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: ton of value on the slate. So what's going to
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: happen here is his ownership is just going to get
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: way more inflated. He's going to be way higher on
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: than he should be in this spot, I guess is
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. Because you're going to build
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: a team and it's just, he's going to fit in
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: everything because you're going to play the Chris Rodriguez's of
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the world. And then like, it just opens up the world.
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I think if you're building a lot of teams,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: like actively taking an underweight approach on, on Derrick Henry,
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: is something i would be looking to from a portfolio
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: standpoint like you said use the example of 5-1 with
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: henry if you're doing stuff like that then yeah where
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it makes sense but if you're just building a bunch
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: of teams and using an optimizer or something be careful
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: with the derrick henry stuff because he's going to be
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: much higher on than he should be because of how
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: easy it is to play did you see too.
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: This is a side note to the derrick henry stuff
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: well it's about him but just to note the um
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: giants are thinking about trying to trade for him instead
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: of jonathan taylor Right now, I mean, the season's over
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: for Lamar. The big dog is the man. And insane
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: how good he's been to this level and for whatever.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: But, like, I don't know. What's the trade value really
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: going to be? I don't know.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: That's the bigger question. But I thought it was at
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: least somewhat interesting. And for the Ravens, if you're, you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: trading for percent, it's just kind of keep things moving
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: because there's not like anything there.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: So it's like we're not really.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I think they brought
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: him in because it gives him somewhat of a chance.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: That's what I think they're going.
• 31:13
  Speaker 3: To go with. It just sucks that they're going to
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: have to pay.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: That's why I think the latest is like they're not
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: going to move on Henry because they're going to see
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: what happens and what if. Man, that would be a
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: sad scene if Brissette's getting them down the line and
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: Lamar's on the sidelines.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Like, geez, this would be crazy. I mean, I think
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: Brissette has the chance to actually– I mean, I think
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: it's a perfect fit for them, honestly. Like him coming
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: in here to give them a chance. Like he can
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: get the ball to receivers. He can get the ball
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: to Zay Flowers. He's going to be able to move
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: the ball up and down the field. I mean, I'm
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: interested to see how it all looks.
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm definitely interested. As a Ravens fan, I want
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: to see it. But man, that's just so disappointing the
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: way it shook out. Moving on to wide receiver in
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: a second, because there's a lot more to talk about there.
• 31:58
  Speaker 4: A bunch of different dudes you can go with. And
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: also that's where it's more like with the Ravens side.
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: Someone said, you know, leaving just the money, you know,
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: leaving a bunch of money, leaving Derrick Henry money down
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: to Justice Hill. Yeah, it's different still for sure. It's
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: just like that's it's whether or not it would get
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: there and how that's going to shake up. But Jerry's
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: point here, I think there's definitely an opportunity for this.
• 32:17
  Speaker 4: Just it's a very precise move.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Type of build.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: So it doesn't mean, I don't think you'd be as
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: heavily duped because most people have Trevor Lawrence, but the
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: idea of if it is all the running game for
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: the Jags and then for the Ravens, it's just jamming
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: the run and PPR point to whoever, if it's Zay
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: or whoever it ends up being, it's going to be
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: hard to nail down, but definitely would want to have
• 32:35
  Speaker 4: some builds in there with no quarterbacks as a chance
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: at being different tonight. So defenses, running backs, kickers, things
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: like that, where it can really rack up. And if
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: those guys only have, you know, if Lawrence has 12,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: still think it's probably there on this slate but it's
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: tough to say you never know so that's where it
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: gets a little bit more tricky and you want to
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: think about that when you're putting your builds together so
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: wide receiver title i'll go to you parker washington's been
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: talked about zay i mean like i don't zay might
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: even just be better in the flex he's still not
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: getting like crazy ownership there and what if they are
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: just the one thing i will say is um last
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: game like people talk about the you know 10 for
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: 21 or whatever twofold one what i said earlier not
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: really ready He probably never ready to be honest for NFL.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Let's see what happens. And again, tonight, like Hoops said earlier,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: they're not really planning much with him. They're already moving on,
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: but why not? If that's the case, let them at
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: least try it some when they're down.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Cause who cares?
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: And then also if he threw that many times in
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: that little time, what if he throws, you know, 30,
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: 40 times tonight? I mean, then it becomes like 20
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: for 40 is still a lot of value there.
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: We never know. What are the odds? What are the odds?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Do you think he throws 40, 40?
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: What's the props on it right now? It's probably super low.
• 33:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I'd have to sometimes pretty quickly.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: You go ahead and talk about wide receiver. I'll pull that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 2: Oh man.
• 33:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just find it crazy when we're like
• 33:55
  Speaker 5: talking props, Brian Thomas, 17 plus yards, minus one Oh nine.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: And this guy was going.
• 34:00
  Speaker 5: Above Parker Washington and best ball for a good amount
• 34:03
  Speaker 5: of time. Just crazy to see things like that. And
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: his price, like that's a spend up to be contrarian.
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: So what we're showing he's 6,400, 9%. I'm not even
• 34:12
  Speaker 5: convinced he gets to 9%, but yeah, I mean it,
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: I'll have 7%, 8%, 9% because when he does outscore
• 34:19
  Speaker 5: all those guys or catches a 60-yard touchdown, which he's
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: on the field about 50%.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: Of the time, you can be unique.
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: So I'll play him, Rashad Bateman, Jacoby Lane, some Josh Cameron,
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: even some Travis Hunter. These guys are all single-digit ownerships,
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: and they're going to be on the field at times,
• 34:37
  Speaker 5: can have a big play, easily fits Trevor Lawrence's captain stuff.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: That's going to be the way I'm getting different today.
• 34:43
  Speaker 5: And I'll probably end up underweight, Zay Flowers and Parker Washington,
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: and probably even Jacoby Myers in the flex. I'll mix
• 34:51
  Speaker 5: and match them, but I'm interested in these single-digit-owned receivers
• 34:54
  Speaker 5: that are going to be on the field.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: You could triple dip tonight with Travis Hunter, right?
• 35:00
  Speaker 4: You put him with the defense, you get the offensive
• 35:02
  Speaker 4: points from him, all kinds of things you can do
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: with this guy tonight. So would you believe it's almost 30?
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: For what?
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: For the prop.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: 30.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, I mean, when they're 10 point dogs, you got
• 35:16
  Speaker 5: to throw the ball eventually in the second half.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess 40 is not the crate.
• 35:20
  Speaker 4: He's definitely crazier, but I mean, still, I didn't know.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: I was thinking it might even be lower than that,
• 35:24
  Speaker 4: but I guess I may be chucking it.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: Passing attempts. Oh, Joey F.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: What is it?
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: 29 and a half.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah, pretty interesting there. I'll kick it over to wide
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: receiver with you, Hoop. What else you got to add?
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: I mean, like, Brian Thomas Jr., finally, what, he got
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: a touchdown last week. They were talking about featuring him
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: for trade value.
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: Still haven't seen anything there.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: And, yeah, sorry, 28 and a half. Trevor Lawrence is
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: 29 and a half, one more than him. But it's just, yeah,
• 35:53
  Speaker 4: just back and forth. There's blowout baked into that. The
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: other side is, like, just down and has to throw more.
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: It's not an easy number to go off of. But, yeah,
• 36:01
  Speaker 4: go ahead, Hoop, with wide receiver.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean– Kind of agree with a lot of
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: what like title is saying, like the Parker Washington thing,
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Zay Flowers, their price where they're just going to fit
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: and people are going to play them. So the ownership
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: is going to be very, very high, especially on like
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: Parker Washington. And I don't know, I just don't, what
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: are we showing for ownership? We got, I think it's
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: going to be higher than that. We're showing 50. I
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: bet it even comes in higher just because it's going
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: to be easy to play these guys. Like, and there's
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: not many appealing plays on this slate. So, Yeah, he's fine,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: and I'm not super excited about it. Zay Flowers, same
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: conversation as Derrick Henry. He's going to be over-owned for
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: his situation tonight just because it's easy to put him
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: into any lineup. Any lineup that has Chris Rodriguez, you're
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: going to be able to just play– you're going to
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: be able to play Derrick Henry and Zay Flowers, and
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: they're just going to go into a lot of lineups.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: So I want to be careful. what I do is
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: they flowers and that, I mean, just five targets, zero catches.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, the guy was not expecting to
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: play football. The Joey, Joey F was not, not expecting
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: to play football last week and he was thrust into
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: the position. So I get it. So maybe, maybe they
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: convert like one or two of those instead of over five,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: but it's, it's very tough. I think Brian Thomas jr.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: And Trevor Lawrence, captain teams, low scoring game. I mean,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: it can definitely make sense if that's the case. And,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: no one's going to want to click in at 6,400,
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: but like they clearly wanted to get them a little
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: something last week and probably continue. So I'm good with
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: him there. And same thing, like, yeah, I'll mix in, like,
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: that's what I was talking about in like those, even
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: those C-Rod captain teams, like you want to have some
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: ugly plays mixed in. And I guess I would even
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: add like Brian Thomas into that. No one's going to
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: place C-Rod captain, Brian Thomas and flux probably, is going
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: to be a low combination. So that's a guy you
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: can throw in there that does have some touchdown upside. But, yeah,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: I'd include Cameron and Hunter in those Trevor Lawrence captain teams,
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Jacoby Lane and Bateman. I mean, it's tough to get
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: excited about the Ravens' passing attack tonight. So, yeah, I
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: don't know. That's kind of it.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: Brian Thomas Jr. is just like a touchdown guy now.
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: That's saying it off of one week, but it's crazy.
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: The books have Josh Cameron more likely to get 50
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: yards than they do Brian Thomas Jr., and they actually
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: let you ladder him up. I mean, there's something to
• 38:33
  Speaker 4: be said for that. They don't even want to put
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: a ladder on Brian Thomas, and it doesn't look like
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: because they're scared of it. It looks like because they're
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: not concerned at all by it. It's not even worth it.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: No one's going to bet it because it's not happening.
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: But interesting just to see that stuff. Like, man, Myers
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: squeezed right there in the middle?
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: But the fact that he's there kind of makes it
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: somewhat interesting.
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: And if you are playing around with whether you're building
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: in sets, you've got a portfolio, whatever that might be,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: I think there'd be some... merit to giving some of
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: the Washington points to Myers and Myers some back for
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: some lineups and just see like what those versions look
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: like so it's not always just one for one replacement
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: you can find what would that do if your builds
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: had something different kind of like what we talked about
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: on Monday with how Rio boosted the expensive defenses it's
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: that's just one move but to see what does it
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: do for you and then you're like oh it actually
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: gives me some more unique builds this way that would
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: be a little bit interesting or there's some intrigue there
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: I would think about that with something with Myers tonight
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: just because he kind of slices and dices the middle.
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: If Brian Thomas Jr. is your guy, do it with him.
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: He's $ 600 cheaper, just as easy to do it with,
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: but I would definitely be considering what some of those
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: lineups give you Zay Flowers, Lane, Bateman, really the only
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: three on the Raven side. I know some of those
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: other guys could get involved, but it's just, it's so
• 39:48
  Speaker 4: hard to see it being anything crazy. So you're, you're
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: putting them in knowing that you're taking that risk. Bateman,
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: 400 bucks more than Rodriguez. If, anyone can get separation
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: and find, I mean, him at lane can too, but
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: it just, it's whoever gets lucky on that. And then
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: they need our boy now coined forever as Joey F
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: they're going to need Joey F to get the ball,
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: the F down the field to these guys and actually
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: have it be clean. So that's what you're looking for
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: in those lineups, but know what it is. You're obviously
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: taking a massive projection hit. If you're plugging, you can
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: play them both, but I'm saying, if you're saying it's
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: not going to be Rodriguez, it's going to be, Jacoby
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: lane on the other side. And let me just spend
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: a little bit more and get a seven point worse projection.
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: You know what you're doing?
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: Most of my favorite teams would be with them because
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: you're just saying that they're down 21 slingy and it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: a Jacoby lane or Bateman. See, Rod already did his damage,
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: leave 5k or something like that. But I mean, I
• 40:43
  Speaker 5: like lane and Bateman is ways to get different.
• 40:45
  Speaker 2: They're on the field a lot and they should be
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: in a perfect script.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: They can get open.
• 40:49
  Speaker 4: It's just getting the ball, get down there. But man,
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: The Sean Sully with the banger right here. Don't forget,
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: only one other Joey F for the Ravens, and he
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: was elite, baby. He got the job done. Shit, he's
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: still making quarterbacks look bad. I thought he might be
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: the guy that comes in for the Ravens here.
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: That would have been the key.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Get him.
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: Forget Joey.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: Forget Jacoby B.
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: They will call all these quarterbacks this way now. Forget
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: Jacoby B. Get Joe Flacco in there, man. Elite, elite stats.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: People always see him for shit, then he dunked on them.
• 41:19
  Speaker 5: He did the coin toss. He did the OT coin
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: toss for since he, I was wondering what he was
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: up to. And I saw him out there at midfield.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, nice. Nice.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: There he is.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: He's that's crazy, man. Back in the day, Joe, Joey Flacco,
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: people give him a lot. He took a lot of Flacco.
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: I tell you that.
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: And then he went out and got that super bowl
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: MVP on their ass and said, what's up. So love
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: that shit.
• 41:40
  Speaker 5: I'll always like any balled out last year. I hope
• 41:42
  Speaker 5: Jacoby Brissett can do the same. That's what they're hoping for.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: That's what we're hoping for big time.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: All right. It's real.
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: This is the thing, too. It is Spagnuolo.
• 41:53
  Speaker 4: He went on an interview and said it, but people
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: don't want to say it that way, so we live
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: in that world.
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: What else, Hoop? Anything else at wide receiver? If not,
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: take us into tight end.
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: When a name pronunciation makes zero logical sense, I refuse
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: to do it. There's one not too long ago, too.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: I'm not doing it.
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I'm not playing the game. Tight end. Definitely like Strange.
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: Good option.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: $ 7, 400. So he's got a real price tag. Another name
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: that I'm going to slaughter and I have a bad voice,
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: so I'm not going to even try it. The tight
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: end for Jacksonville, Nate Borkricher. I don't know. Borkricher. You
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: got it? All right. Close enough.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: But his name does have richer in it, or it
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: looks like Kircher, I guess, but it's more Kircher.
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: I look, I look at it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: All right. Tight touchdowns, back-to-back games. So good for, I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: think Trevor Lawrence, a captain teams, Jose Cuervos. We got
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: in there as well at 1200. So a lot of action.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: I will say Mark Andrews just dropped so many freaking footballs.
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: It's insane. I mean, the last couple of seasons, it's wild.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Like anytime it's like, bad bad horrible drops um but
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: with that being said 4400 uh a quarterback that is
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: probably never playing again in the NFL he's probably gonna
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: want some safety of throwing to a tight end so
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: um Mark Andrews is in play and actually I kind
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: of he's probably my favorite pass catcher for Baltimore after
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: kind of shitting on him a little bit.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: It was nice to call that out yeah that was
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: um That was the bad– the one in the playoffs, man,
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: against the Bills.
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Horrible, man.
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: I think there was another last week or two weeks ago.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: They're just really bad, just horrible drops, like easy catches. Yeah.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: What do you think, title?
• 43:51
  Speaker 4: We talked about Josh Cuevas earlier, and then you've got
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: now– the last name, however you say it, Borkertscher, you
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: can't spell it without Richard, but can he make you richer?
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: I'll have to find out.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, though. These tight ends– on the
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: showdown slate with weird names, starting back from week one
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: with our guy. They've got, they've got the job done
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: for us on the showdown slate. So something's telling me this, uh,
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: or creature guys has a chance to do something tonight.
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: Kind of liking it now.
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: Nate B is what we're calling him today.
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: Joe. Maybe.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Week five, 49% of snap 55% week six, 48%
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: week eight. He's on the field.
• 44:24
  Speaker 2: That's all you can ask for.
• 44:32
  Speaker 5: I like him more than Cuevas, even though I think
• 44:35
  Speaker 5: he's fine. Mark Andrews, yeah, same thoughts as Hoop. Like,
• 44:39
  Speaker 5: he looks so dust, and I just want to write
• 44:41
  Speaker 5: him off. But then I see him, he's like 10%, 12%, 15%.
• 44:44
  Speaker 5: And it's like, oh, gosh. If he outscores Jaguars little
• 44:50
  Speaker 5: or Jaguars defense, all it takes is one touchdown. Again,
• 44:54
  Speaker 5: it's the same merit to liking, I think, Bateman and
• 44:56
  Speaker 5: Jacoby Lane. These guys are cheap. They should be throwing
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: the ball a lot. They're a way to get more
• 45:00
  Speaker 5: Baltimore exposure, which gets you on different roster builds. I
• 45:03
  Speaker 5: think that's where I want to go. Yeah, I like Strange.
• 45:08
  Speaker 5: I mean, Strange could outscore Parker Washington, Rodriguez. Yeah, Strange
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: I think is a great player.
• 45:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:15
  Speaker 4: Prefer, you know, anything on the Jag side that's going
• 45:18
  Speaker 4: to also be different from the rest of the Jags makes.
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: The most sense to me.
• 45:21
  Speaker 4: And again, he's 11 K you could still build a
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: reasonable lineup with him. So I do think strange is interesting.
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: And even when we were talking captain earlier, like I said,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: that'd be a guy that I would put up there for,
• 45:31
  Speaker 4: for that side, because it's obviously Lawrence Rodriguez, Washington getting
• 45:35
  Speaker 4: all the love.
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's like Myers and strange. are the ones
• 45:38
  Speaker 3: after that.
• 45:38
  Speaker 4: We'll get to the other conversation in just a second.
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: But anything else here at all?
• 45:42
  Speaker 4: You guys, either of you want to talk about, I
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: know you both hit it already, but anything else on
• 45:45
  Speaker 4: the other positions?
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: If not, we just got kickers and D's left to tackle.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: And obviously the big conversation is going to be the
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: Jags D 5,800 bucks, no small price tag for them
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: for a showdown slate. We had seen D's come down
• 45:59
  Speaker 4: a bit in salary, but I don't think it really
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: matters when the slate is what it is. Like we've just,
• 46:04
  Speaker 4: you know, I think a lot of lineups can just
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: land there and make it make sense.
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: But who, where you at with the kickers and D's
• 46:08
  Speaker 3: on this one?
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: This is one of those spots, the defense spots where
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: you just got to be a little cautious with, with
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: ownership because it always, they always end up being higher
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: own than anyone's really projecting just because it just seems
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: like such a good spot favored by 10. The other
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: teams projected to score 14 real life points.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: It's just the one thing I'd expect their ownership to
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: probably steam up a little bit, but regardless, it's a
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: good play. And something you can do with this defense
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: thing is if you have a, I don't know, assuming
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: correlation really doesn't matter, and you've got Parker Washington or
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: something in there, you can just drop down to Jags defense,
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: and that's a difference of, parker's what 94 the defenses
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: and so like somewhere in like the 4k range and
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: just leave that on the table and can the jags
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: d outscore parker washington yeah absolutely so those are things
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: i'd be looking to do with jags d if you're
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: playing a bunch of teams you obviously want to include
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: them but you know just be a little careful because
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: this is the spot where these defenses get steamed way
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: up uh kicker cam little i think is is definitely
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: a guy he's got it got a big leg uh
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: 5400 we'll go to the box scores real quick uh
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: he's got a 12 spot he's got a 14 he's
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: got a nine he's got two nines he's got an
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: eight so uh he can score and you know a
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: low scoring slate maybe here um i think he's a
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: great play at uh 5400 oh i didn't realize the
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: ravens have jake moody.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Huh tyler loops on the ir yeah man.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Jake moody there so He went to high school right
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: down the road here, about 10 minutes from Hoops' house.
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: I mean, get him in the backyard, get some extra
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: kicks here on his bye week.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: All in Jake Moody? Is that what you're saying? He's optimal?
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: Maybe, man. Maybe. Actually, someone was telling me a story.
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: They saw him because his old high school was like
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: 10 minutes down the road. When he got cut, he
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: was in the high school field getting some kicks in.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Nice.
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: Yeah, if they can't get it done with Joey F., man,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: they got to kick those field goals. Right?
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: You never know. But how do you know Cam Little
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: has a big leg? His last name's Little.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Little.
• 48:22
  Speaker 2: I was going to ask about his feet. Do you
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: know about his shoes?
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: They don't have them. They got the shoe size? We
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: need to know that.
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: Brandon Aubrey with them size 7s out there, man.
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: How's that going? So, yeah.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Isn't he the guy that kicked the 70-yarder or something, right?
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: Cam Little? Yeah, Cam Little.
• 48:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: Got a big old third leg down there.
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: Third leg, third leg Cam, third leg Little.
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: All right, he got a 68-yarder, 70 yards.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he made the 70. I thought it was 71.
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Preseason game, it was a 70-yarder against the Steelers in 2025.
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there it is.
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: Is that it?
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it looks like it. Yeah, 68, 67-yarders.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: He's got some kicks for sure.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: I just picked him up on my season-long team too.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: How's that one going for you?
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: Last year basically went undefeated. This year, much rougher. Just 3-5,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: sitting in 10th out of 12th place. I got a
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: lot of injuries. I got Saquon, so that obviously has
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: not worked out very well. Mike Evans, who pretty much
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: never plays anymore. It's been rough. It's been a rough
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: go for sure. Oh, Travis Etienne, or what? No, it's
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: not Etienne anymore. Travis Etienne. Got him as well. He
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: was in here earlier.
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: Good boy, man.
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's sitting on my IR right now,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: so things have been rough this year. Probably not going back-to-back.
• 49:53
  Speaker 3: Etienne, he's the other guy with the other name.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: Like, how is that a name?
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It was crazy.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, they played the Lions week one, and I was traveling.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I think I was coming back from my son's baseball.
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: I turned it on the radio, and they're like, Oh,
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: hand off to 8chan. I'm like, 8chan? I said, who
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: the hell is 8chan on the Saints? And they kept
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: saying it. I was like, this guy doesn't know the
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: player's name. He doesn't know it's Travis Etienne. He's calling
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: him 8chan instead. And then come to find out, I
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: guess that's not how you pronounce his name or something.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: Who the hell knows?
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Who knows?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: Anything you want to add there, Title? I mean, the
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: Jags D is a conversation. One thing that is interesting
• 50:34
  Speaker 3: I saw is.
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: Like, Some people think they won't steam. Some people think
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: 30 is about right. It doesn't really matter to me because,
• 50:40
  Speaker 4: like I said, it matters. I want to get it right,
• 50:42
  Speaker 4: and we want to get it right for everybody with
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: the numbers.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: And the ownership, but.
• 50:46
  Speaker 4: what is most interesting to me is like the optimal
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: and where they're showing against that. It's like, I don't
• 50:51
  Speaker 4: know if it's as, if the guy's going to throw
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: 30 times could be pretty optimal by the end of
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: the night when it's all said and done. But if
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: you are thinking about having some builds without them, I
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: don't really have a problem with it. I think if
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: we play for a different style game could get you
• 51:02
  Speaker 4: a little bit more unique or different in that way
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: by not having the Jags D in your lineup.
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.
• 51:09
  Speaker 5: I don't want to take a big stand. I don't
• 51:10
  Speaker 5: think either way. I mean, I can totally make a
• 51:13
  Speaker 5: case for it, but 30% is a lot of money.
• 51:16
  Speaker 5: The one I'm interested in your take, like I'm in
• 51:18
  Speaker 5: on Little, I'm in on Moody. I think Moody and
• 51:20
  Speaker 5: Derrick Henry stuff makes some sense just because you think
• 51:23
  Speaker 5: the game's closer and they actually are kicking field goals.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: If they're down 21 early, you pass up closer decisions,
• 51:30
  Speaker 5: fourth and fives, fourth and fours. You go for the touchdown.
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: So Moody and closer game scripts, I still like it though.
• 51:37
  Speaker 5: Ravens defense is the one though, like just no one's
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: going to play it. What do we have it for?
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: Eight percent.
• 51:44
  Speaker 5: And again, yeah, it feels gross. It might even be
• 51:46
  Speaker 5: less than eight percent. But what if they do outscore
• 51:48
  Speaker 5: somehow Justice Hill or they outscore.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: Cameron, Hunter, Bateman, Walker? I'm not even going to say
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: C-Rod because you don't need that to be the case.
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: So it just takes one play. What do you think?
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: What do you think, Tambo? I think like Sims will
• 52:03
  Speaker 2: like Baltimore defense, I imagine.
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: And it's also because it's from how you just stated
• 52:08
  Speaker 4: it is the completely accurate. And it's also the sharp route,
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: not of the plague. And people was like, well, you
• 52:14
  Speaker 4: think that play sharp? It's not about that. It's how
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: it's going to show up in your builds and the
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: argument against it and why no one's on it from
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: all the different stuff, why it's baked in all that
• 52:23
  Speaker 4: stuff is because you say, well, if the Jags are
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: going to put up 26 on the road, how the
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: hell is the defense going to be needed?
• 52:28
  Speaker 3: Two things.
• 52:29
  Speaker 4: Hey, If they did, we've seen defenses still be needed,
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: a scoop and score, a touchdown. It's all about like
• 52:33
  Speaker 4: what it beats and the other value plays around it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: So it actually could be, we saw, we talked about
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: all the time, the 101 point game in Mexico, both
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: defenses had 20 plus points. It's like that got there too,
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: but it's also when you're playing the Ravens D you're
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: probably saying what the rest of your build, you're not
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: just plugging them in as a play. You're saying it's
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: a build where maybe it's Derek Henry captain and then
• 52:54
  Speaker 4: the Ravens into the flex and it's like the ball
• 52:56
  Speaker 4: control the game changes like you're building for that different
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: game script so it doesn't they don't have they might
• 53:01
  Speaker 4: not put up 26 points plus on the road like
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: you're seeing on paper because you're building it differently so
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: i got no problem with it i think at 3k
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: it's really interesting because of the same price as justice
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: hill basically same price as rodriguez and you can play
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: them together like i always say so it's like you
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: can mix and match that way but i don't think
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: anyone's touching them the projection could even be slightly light
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: you know you can't spell slightly without light but it
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: might be slightly light just because it's you know they
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: do start with points and it's just again you're it's
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: all how you're building it but at least in those
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: theoretical builds you'd be boosting their projection anyway so again
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: if you're if you on slates like this i'll just
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: state it again because i said it earlier around the
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: um other conversation we have with like myers and washington
• 53:44
  Speaker 4: I don't mind building in some sets and like making
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: some changes for a set amount of lineups to say, okay,
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: what would it look like if I gave the Ravens
• 53:52
  Speaker 4: eight points here tonight? And I actually said that the
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: Ravens DST was involved. And then if you have Saber
• 53:57
  Speaker 4: Sim and you're blending it all together, you'll get good
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: lineups that also tell the story that also have that
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: projection built in. And then you can keep some of those.
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: And then you know you're not missing out on them,
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: but you're also not just plugging them in to play them.
• 54:11
  Speaker 4: It's the people that build a 5-1 and then just say, oh,
• 54:13
  Speaker 4: I'll just play Ravens over Justice Hill. And the answer
• 54:17
  Speaker 4: there was you should probably play Justice Hill. That's when
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: you're probably going to run into it. Again, can't say
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: anything set in stone, but would definitely think that's the
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: way I would look to build tonight. And I think
• 54:26
  Speaker 4: that's where I would move the projection some on them
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: in those sets.
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: So I think it's a good call out.
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: And I think it makes a ton of sense from
• 54:32
  Speaker 4: that perspective. All right, Hoop, anything with the FanDuel side
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: of things that you see here before we get out
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: of here?
• 54:39
  Speaker 1: Good comment from our boy here. Mark A is absolute buns.
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: I like that one. I do like that one. And
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: he is buns, but unfortunately going to have to play
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: his ass tonight. So hopefully tonight those buns turn into–
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: what is it, Tambo? Those buns turn into– I can't
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: even tell about honey buns. Those buns, his buns turn
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: into honey buns, a little, uh, croissant thing.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Mark. That's all I'm thinking about. This guy's just terrible.
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: Where's the guy?
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: Mark.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: It's going to be Mark honey buns tonight.
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: Oh man.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: I like this there right here. This one. Can't wait
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: to see the discord or up when Andrew's drops one
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: in the end zone.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: It'll happen.
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: And then hopefully he catches the second one. That's what
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: you got to hope for with him. Uh, fan duel,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: pretty similar stuff. Uh, C rod is 5,400 versus the
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: 34 equally good play. Um, you know, he has a
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: direct path to being the highest scoring guy on the slate. So, um,
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: I want him in captain, uh, as well, but same thing.
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: It's like, make sure there's some different stuff looking in
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: the flex. If you do play him, uh, in the captain, uh,
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: Strange at 6,600, he's going to need that honey to help. Yeah,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: that's a good point. Maybe he'll eat a honey bun
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: before with his gloves on and catch the ball. That
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: would be great, actually. That would work out perfect for us.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: He's 5,800 on FanDuel, so not as good of a
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: price tag, but touchdown dependent site. Don't hate that. The cheapies, Abdullah, 1,400. Allen, 1,200.
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: So they're basically full-on punts over there. but not too
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: much of a difference really between the two sites.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: Title, did you want to add anything to that or
• 56:25
  Speaker 3: anything else you saw?
• 56:27
  Speaker 5: I see it pretty similar, like Coop said, to DraftKings
• 56:30
  Speaker 5: and FanDuel. It's like some cheap options that aren't going
• 56:32
  Speaker 5: to get too much ownership, that Borg-Chire, Borg-Kircher, tight end,
• 56:38
  Speaker 5: Travis Hunter, Josh Cameron, Jacoby Lane, all cheaper than Justice
• 56:43
  Speaker 5: Hill and C-Rod. Yeah, C-Rod, he looks a little more expensive,
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: but he's equally as good a play. And the field
• 56:49
  Speaker 5: will know that Andrew is more higher price on Fando.
• 56:54
  Speaker 5: That's a tough click, but if he is optimal, I
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: definitely like him less on Fando. He like needs a
• 56:59
  Speaker 5: touchdown and even then he's not guaranteed, but yeah, Lane, Cameron, Hunter,
• 57:03
  Speaker 5: poor Kircher, Quavos. If you want, I think those are
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: the ones Abdullah, if any of them are optimal, that's
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: how you're going to see a unique ship or less
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: than five dupes.
• 57:13
  Speaker 4: One thing I like on Fando more, and I know it's,
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: you know, you could say the same on DraftKings. I
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: get it. Like he's only 10% there on FanDuel. It
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: looks like he's under 10, but I like Henry at MVP.
• 57:23
  Speaker 4: He's a big boy up top, almost 19,000. That's insane.
• 57:26
  Speaker 4: But it's, you're playing for the, if he gets there
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: and on that, it's a touchdown. So the other, the
• 57:31
  Speaker 4: thing I don't like about it as much on DraftKings
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: where people just say, well, it's the same thing.
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: You could just call it that way.
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: It's like, On DraftKings, the full point PPR still does
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: add up and rack up.
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: And some of these guys can just get you.
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: So if you don't quite get all the way there
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: with it, but on FanDuel, the touchdowns, the extras that way,
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: I think you just are hoping for that. On DraftKings,
• 57:52
  Speaker 4: you can still get overridden by these multiple PPR guys
• 57:55
  Speaker 4: and whatever happens on the Jag side too with it
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: and all that. It's not always the same on FanDuel
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: when somebody else gets six for $ 80, 000.
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: On FanDuel, it still matters, but on DraftKings, that's like
• 58:05
  Speaker 3: big time.
• 58:05
  Speaker 4: And then if they get you that a hundred yard
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: bonus later, something like, damn, they didn't even have a
• 58:08
  Speaker 4: touchdown and they still crushed it. So, you know, all
• 58:11
  Speaker 4: that matters more. And I like the fact that he's
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: way up there. He's an extra almost thousand dollars over
• 58:16
  Speaker 4: Lawrence up top. And then I've talked about before, but I,
• 58:20
  Speaker 4: you know, paying up for probability, that's what I'm doing.
• 58:22
  Speaker 4: I know it's an ugly price. I want that for
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: that reason, if he's sub 10, because I think over there,
• 58:27
  Speaker 4: you'll see what 50% just on Lawrence and Washington alone.
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: And then you add in C-Rod, it keeps going up.
• 58:34
  Speaker 4: Like it's, it's three dudes over there.
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: That's it.
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: So, all right. Anything, Hoop, you're smiling over there a
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: little bit.
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: You got anything else to add before you save the voice?
• 58:42
  Speaker 4: We try to get you out without busting it up
• 58:44
  Speaker 4: too bad, but anything else you want to add?
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: No, made it through. I didn't know how it was
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: going to go, but feeling pretty good on the voice,
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: obviously some cracks along the way and should be back
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: to a hundred percent by, by Sunday. That's the plan.
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: So a honey percent.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: Honey percent. Be back to a honey percent.
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: Can you make yourself a honey tea tonight? One of those,
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: you know, soothing throat drinks.
• 59:07
  Speaker 3: Are you going to try one of those?
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: I might.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: I thought about it. I got a coffee. I was
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: thinking about putting some honey in there, but I'm not
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: much of like a honey guy. So I just went
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: with the standard. So we'll see. But I feel great.
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: That's the annoying part when you got something like this. Like,
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I don't feel sick at all. Just got the throat
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: thing going. And, you know, it's more of an annoyance
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: than anything. Hit the steam room for a while today
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: at the gym. I was in there for a good
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes. Um, guy gave us like the 10 minute
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: warnings and I'm coming to clean it. So you guys
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: got to finish up. So, uh, got in a solid
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: 20 minutes in the steam room and felt nice, man.
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: What exactly did you guys have to finish up?
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: Uh, just sitting there and enjoying the steamy environments and
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: basically got 10 minutes. So let's wrap this shit up.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: He's wanting to wrap this shit up too.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: So that's perfect. All right.
• 59:55
  Speaker 3: Title, any final thoughts for you, man? Anything else you
• 59:57
  Speaker 3: want to add before we get out of here?
• 59:58
  Speaker 2: No, the more we talked, like just how much money
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: you can leave.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 5: And if you don't play Trevor Rodriguez or Parker up top,
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: like it's very clear where to get different on the slate.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I actually liked it more than I initially
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: thought coming in.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: And yeah, it's either going to be a lot of chops,
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 5: but I'm optimistic that I think this one's going to
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 5: have a lot of uniques up there with five minutes
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 5: left where money will swing heavily.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: So at least I hope so. So. Yeah, good luck.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 3: It's going to be fun tonight. I'm excited for that
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: for sure.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: And like I said to you guys earlier, if you
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: want to check it out, you can go to– what
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: am I on here, man?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 5: That was nice.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: Get that.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: Full screen back. Yeah, just go full screen.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 3: What is going on, boys? You can't even do it.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 4: I'm out.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: I can't do it.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: All I was going to say is I am really,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: truly excited because that was a lot of fun the
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: other night. Obviously, it was because Rio was shipping a milli.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: That was the best part, but it's like just sweating it.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: I think that's fun. I've always liked, you know, Nelson
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 4: Adcock has been awesome over at Cut Sweats. I like
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 4: that for PGA where you can like see after each
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 4: round how your team kind of sets up it's sometimes
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: it feels like that number's way off or whatever and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 4: you but it's nice just to know and sweat along
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 4: so you guys check it out i don't know why
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: the screen doesn't work but you can go to dfsos.com
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 4: use code ship it get in the action tonight that's
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 4: all access for 29 bucks for a month and you
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 4: will be able to test it out tonight i'm excited
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 4: just to sweat i just want to know like dupes
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: right away and stuff like i get so excited for
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 4: that just out of the gates how many lineups were
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: unique and all this other stuff so i'm really excited
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 4: to check that out but The other.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: One, now that we're at the end title, got brought up.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 3: If you can only choose one.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: Oops, a steam room guy or a sauna guy. What's
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: the battle here? For sure the sauna.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: The sauna? Gotta get in that sauna.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: The best is that nobody knows and has ever watched us.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 4: They were making fun of us for name pronunciations and
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 4: now we're saying sauna, no problem, and they're thinking we're idiots.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: I was dying today.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: One of my PRs got 35 minutes today. To end
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: the sauna? Yeah.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 3: Damn.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 1: Isn't that over the, what's the temperature on it?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: It was probably like 174. I'm not like crazy.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 3: Five minutes.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: I definitely prefer the sauna as well. The only time
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I go in the steam room is if I'm not
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: feeling well and I just need something. I like both,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: but yeah.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: I'm more, I'm definitely the persona guy, but I do
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: not do 35 minutes. I can guarantee, I can promise
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: you that. So at the gym, it's usually like 185. I,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: at the most, I'll be all sitting there for like
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: 15 minutes or something.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I do 25.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: I got.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: You do 25?
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but mine's a little different though. Cause I got
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 4: in my basement, it's like an infrared with everything. It's
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 4: not quite that high. So it's all pretty standard stuff,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 4: but title, did you know about the, the boys? You know,
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 4: a sauna is not really good for the boys and
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 4: for the reproduction cycle. So if you're having more kids,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 4: I know you just busted out in that dad life
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 4: last year.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 5: I'll have to look into that. I've heard it's the
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: best thing to get microplastics out of you.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: It's good for that, but it's the counts that you
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: got to look out for.
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: So now you'll get hit with it after this.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: Your algorithm is going to be busting with the ice
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 4: pack boxers that you can go in with and everything too.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: I'm confident in my game. Eat well, lift weights.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: I never heard that about reproduction.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: I'll have to look at that.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, check it out.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: Because I know it takes microplastics.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, interesting.
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 2: Interesting.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 5: I always love to hear if anyone out there, I mean,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: a lot of people watch these shows, and I'm by
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 5: no means an expert, so anything in the health industry
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 5: or something, I'm always ears about.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: Are you over the cold plunge?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 5: Not, I mean, yes, like my life, like I don't
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: really do it, so I guess I'm over it that way,
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: but I have nothing against it.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I still jump in my cold pool just to
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: wake up.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Seems like it was somewhat of like a fad. It
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: was like a big thing.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: Like people are kind of over it a little bit
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: because it was going hard at it for a while. Now,
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: even like at the gym, they have a huge, they
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: have a huge hot tub, a huge cold plunge. At first,
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: that thing was like filled up with people in there.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 5: Now, remember when I did the show one morning right
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 5: before and it was like, Oh my gosh, never again.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I was like, I can hardly talk. Just shaking.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying about it.
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 4: I know there is a lot of health benefits that
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: they say about that, but for me, just not my thing.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: I'm not trying to wake up that I'm not trying
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 4: to do that before bed and be frozen.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: I don't care.
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: I'm good on a lot of other things.
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 3: I'll just, you know, we'll go nine to 10, eight
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: to 10 and be okay.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 1: You can't, you can't hit it all.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 2: You can't.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah. So yeah, I did it like one time, like
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: all these people at the gym, you go the same time,
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 1: you kind of start interacting with people like, Oh, come on.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: We're going to do that. We're going to go from
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: the hot tub into the cold plunge is like, I
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: really don't want to, but I'll, you know, I'll join
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 1: you guys. I walked in, stood there for 30 seconds,
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: felt like I was going to pass out. I'm like, yeah,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: I'm good. See you guys later. I'm going back and
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: going back to the sauna.
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 3: I remember like a cold.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: Plunge back then, but as a kid, you'd go from like,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: you know, you're staying at a resort or like a
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: thing in a pool and you'd be like, all right,
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: I'm in the hot tub.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: I'm cool now.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 3: I'm like feeling good. Like I'm the man I'm sitting
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: in the hot tub warm.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: And then you go in the pool and it's so
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: cold and you're like, Oh, I got to run back
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 4: to the hot tub.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 3: But nowadays people be going from, you know, way super hot,
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: hot tub into this freezing cold, cold.
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 4: I don't know the health stuff.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 3: Seems insane.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: And they do it right after each other. Like before bed,
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: it's part of their routine and stuff. They go to
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: their sauna, get out, grab a cold plunge, get a shower,
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: put their face moisture, moisturizer on and go to bed.
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: See that's what new ones were saying people are saying
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: now it's not good for you to do it so
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: i don't know who knows i mean it's a new
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: thing so um you know maybe not all the info
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: is out but i mean there are people like at
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: the gym it looks like they're like in a coma
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: sitting in that thing i was like man that that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: does not look good for you like it looks like
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 1: you're about to be going out in the cold.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 4: Blood no one's leaving yet so we can chat but
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 4: do you guys know brian you should you probably know
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 4: brian johnson right you're talking about like.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: The is he the biohacker guy Yeah.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 3: It's the guy like, what's it called? Like never die
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: or whatever.
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: He's trying to live forever.
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 4: He's doing all this stuff.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: So I listened to this podcast and they were telling me,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 3: and this is apparently it's legit. You can look it up.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: He is now selling his routine to like super wealthy
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 4: and billionaire type people. He's selling his whole routine for
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 4: a million dollars and you like apply for it. And
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: then he tells you everything that he does from start,
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 4: his whole stack, like his, you know, start to finish.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 4: He's been working on this stuff for years now and
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: all this stuff. It's insane how much, you know, he
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 4: does and says he's testing out. I think he spends
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: like $ 2 million a year on his health or something
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 4: like that. Like just crazy.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: I know the one guy that was doing a similar
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: thing and getting some sort of, I don't know if
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: it was like a terminal illness, but like a really bad,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: he got some sort of really bad disease or illness.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if it was related to some
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: of the stuff he was doing, but I don't know
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: that guy's name either. I just kind of came across
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: it quickly. Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 5: Speaking of sound of this guy was telling me, have
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 5: you ever heard of Chihuahua Tom?
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: How would you spell it?
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Type in C-H-U-A-N-D-O and then T-A-N.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 3: 60 years old?
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 5: Yeah, look at his picture. This guy in the sauna,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 5: he's 40 years old.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: Looks like he's 20. That's his life goal. Hyperbolic chambers,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: to look as young. Oh, he's 60? He looks like A.I.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah that's what he spent like his life craft
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 5: on and like and like this guy in the sound
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 5: of it i met like that's literally what his like
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 5: goal is talking about manifesting and all that like he
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 5: literally he's like yeah i'm 41 in four months like
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: dude you're the only guy in life i've heard like
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: that's trying to age himself faster he goes yeah i
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 5: am like crazy.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: Stuff yeah someone said andrew said this one you know
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 4: the game is poop better combos after the game Yeah,
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 4: we usually save it till the end so everybody else
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 4: can just bail somehow like everyone didn't bail today when
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: we started talking about it.
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 3: But the.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: Stuff people love, you get the food conversations, you get,
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: you know, all that sort of thing. We got to
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: bring those back. It's almost Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 1: We're going to have to get some of those back
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: in the mix here.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Thanksgiving when everyone says it, what about this title
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: you in?
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: We're doing it. We're doing a yay or nays right now.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 3: We did steam room sauna.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: Now someone's talking about cucumbers before bed on the eyes
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: or not.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: No, I'm not in.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: I can't, I don't sleep on my back. So the
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 5: cucumbers would be off when I go to my side.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: Here's a real question. And I'll probably get blasted for
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: this and I'll probably be made fun of, but don't
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: be afraid to admit it. I'm going to, I'll be
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: the first to admit it. And you guys can follow
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: suit if you want to, but like, obviously women are
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 1: into a lot of this stuff, like the things that
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: go under your eyes or the face mask thing. Has
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: your wife ever convinced you to do any of that?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: Put the things on under your eye or like a
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: face mask?
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: I've done a face mask a couple of times.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've done.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 2: I've never done the eyes.
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  Speaker 3: What is the Rose and Stella's?
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  Speaker 2: They're nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You do.
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  Speaker 1: All right. OK, cool. Yeah, I do that stuff, too.
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  Speaker 1: Like not not on a regular basis. But if she's
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: doing it, she'll try this. I'll do it. All right.
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  Speaker 3: So those aren't for women. Those are for people.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: Those are yeah but dudes dudes aren't dudes they're like.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: Putting different things into your stuff it's like good yeah.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: But guys are not actively going out and buying that
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: at a store and bringing it.
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  Speaker 4: Home no but when she brings it she has it
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: there and i can use it i'm not i'm not
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  Speaker 4: not part of my daily routine but if it's there
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 4: and where she's putting them on i'll throw those things
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 4: on for sure.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 1: Yeah i thought that was something that chat would be
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 1: all you know i thought we'd get i'd get some
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: heat for that but all.
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  Speaker 2: Right i've been doing that for over a decade they call.
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  Speaker 3: Them f now Poop F over there.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I thought. That's what I thought I was
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: going to get. That's what I thought was coming for sure.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah. What they want to know now title. Why don't
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 3: you sleep on your back?
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  Speaker 5: It's just not, I've never in my life. I did
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 5: nothing about that at all. I just naturally my side sleeper.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: Everybody got a side. Some people are sleepers that have.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: A side too. That's my side of the bed. You get,
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 4: you also have that because your side needs to be
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 4: on that side. Yeah.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 5: Maddie's just scared of being by the door because she's weird,
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 5: whatever that means. You break in and somehow they're not
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: going to see you on that other side.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: They're only going to get you.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 3: My wife is the same way. That's my side is
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: the one that's close to the door.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: Let him take the guys. Like, what are.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 4: You going to get you?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 3: That's the thing, too, when, you know, upstairs bedrooms. We
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: were like, Oh, we got to lock up all the windows.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: I said, listen to me.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 4: If this person wants to come to my house, pull
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 4: out a 15 foot ladder, climb up a window and
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: get in.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: You think a lock is stopping them. If they're doing
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: all that shit, like you don't even need to worry
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: about it. That's the thing.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 4: So all that stuff is just whatever. It's nice to
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 4: be safe, have security, be protected. But in the, in
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 4: the United States, you're good to be armed out here.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 4: Nice to have something on you, but I'm just saying
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 4: in general, um, when people are so worried about that,
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 4: like you said about your wife, my wife's the same way.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 3: It's like, so he's going to this killer.
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: He I'm called.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: They are going to bust in the room.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 4: Shoot me in the face and leave you. And why
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: are they even doing that in the first place, by
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 4: the way? Like what's this robbery that's about to happen
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 4: that you're just cooking up over here.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: This doesn't make any sense, but whatever makes you feel good.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: I got you.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: That's the same way. I just, all right, sure. Let's
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: move on.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: That's it. Oh man.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: All right, it's always good chatting about this stuff, having
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 4: some fun after the fact. I think tonight will be interesting.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 4: We'll see how it plays out. We'll be in the Discord,
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: sweating it. We'll be posting the DFSOS little clippers. I'll
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: be trying to find out how many uniques I got
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 4: out of the gate, all this stuff. It's going to
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 4: be a lot of fun from that perspective. As a
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 4: Ravens fan, we'll see how our boy Joey F does,
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: but maybe a good game that we can put together.
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 1: This is a good conversation, though, the guys talking about
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: the wives. I didn't even think about it either because everywhere,
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: now that you guys said it, like, Anytime we go
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: somewhere or at our house, I'm always sleeping by the door,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: and I never even thought about it until now.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: She never brought it up? No, no.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: She just naturally just goes to the other side and
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 5: you take it.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: That's funny. She knows I got the protection in the
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: nightstand to take care of anyone that wants to get in.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: Got the heat ready to roll if needed.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, of course.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: Oh, man, that's good.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: I mean, I get it when they're not, you know,
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: when they're staying home alone or.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 4: Something like that, they're nervous and they got a knife
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 4: under the bed or something crazy just in case.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 3: But in general, you know, that's funny. Hoopswipe was just
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: taking that side and he didn't even know why.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 1: That's funny. Now it all makes sense. Oh, man.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: Joey F better be on his A game. Yeah, I
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: like that one too, Avery.
• 1:12:41
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