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Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 12 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: It is Monday, August twelve. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.
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  Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now
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  Speaker 1: a guy crying genetically frozen for absolute freshness j P.
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  Speaker 1: Ray hopefully not as long as Antonio Brown, but that's okay.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans,
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  Speaker 1: j P. Shaddrick, Jeff Logo and Pete Prisco. Hi, Jeff,
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  Speaker 1: if your feet were damage, you'd be okay, though you'd
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  Speaker 1: be practicing j P. That's right, but you know I
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  Speaker 1: would use the helmet that they told me to. But
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  Speaker 1: that's okay. That's a strange deal. We'll get to that
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  Speaker 1: a little range deal and around the league. Pete Prisco,
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  Speaker 1: CBS Sports. I got, by the way, Logs is in
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  Speaker 1: because Basselli's sipping tea and eating crumpets. Literally, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: if we froze Basselli's brain, we could put it in
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  Speaker 1: like one of the little baby jars, couldn't we little
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  Speaker 1: at the museum somewhere? Right? Yeah, that's good, Pete, that's
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good one. I like it. Um, We've got
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  Speaker 1: plenty to get to on this program today. Left Tackle News.
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  Speaker 1: That was the big news of the day. Nick Voles
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  Speaker 1: speaks the quarterback hawking is always news. We'll hear from
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  Speaker 1: QB coming up. Philosophy of starting or not starting in
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  Speaker 1: the preseason, you're your starters for the regular season. That's
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  Speaker 1: been a hot topic lately. Break that down. We'll go
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  Speaker 1: around the National Football League as well. Let's start today
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  Speaker 1: with the left tackle news. We'll start actually on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: Doug Moron, the Jaguars head coach, broke the news that
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  Speaker 1: he wasn't sure some of these guys will be ready,
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  Speaker 1: including Cam Robinson and Doug was down on Saturday. You know,
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  Speaker 1: those guys are really trying hard, but today it was
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  Speaker 1: kind of a benchmark. You know, they try to kind
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  Speaker 1: of get them back. I don't know if they're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be ready, you know, for the season. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're working hard, the train is working hard, and everybody's
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  Speaker 1: working hard for uh, you know, but we just can
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  Speaker 1: get him over the hump. So we've gotta go and
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  Speaker 1: start preparing um to play without him. That's Saturday. Let's
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  Speaker 1: move to Monday morning today at T I A. A.
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  Speaker 1: Bank Field, The Jaguars back in the practice field about
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  Speaker 1: five A about eight fifteen. The first question of Doug Marone.
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  Speaker 1: Today was the latest on Cam Robinson. B injuries have
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  Speaker 1: been a big thing. We do have one change, uh,
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  Speaker 1: you know which we're excited about. Obviously, Cam Robinson is
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  Speaker 1: gonna be off a pup, so um, he'll be out
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  Speaker 1: there on the practice field. He'll be going through walks
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  Speaker 1: throughs and uh individual So that's the good news. Cam
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  Speaker 1: Robinson back in the practice field. We had a chance
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  Speaker 1: to see Cam Robinson on the practice field individuals walk
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  Speaker 1: throughs today and then we heard from the big fellow
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  Speaker 1: after practice. What in the world Cam Robinson back out there? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I had a plan this whole time. Uh me the
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  Speaker 1: week be back about week one? Um, I ever to
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  Speaker 1: put its time type one, and I was just based
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  Speaker 1: on how I felt coming in each and every day.
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  Speaker 1: Anything anybody said, it didn't come from me. Song. I've
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  Speaker 1: never really paid too much digit to this. So people
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  Speaker 1: gonna talk. Okay, here he is about eleven months since
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  Speaker 1: that injury and he's finally back on the practice field
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  Speaker 1: in a limited role. Here that that's a long time
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  Speaker 1: for for most guys, especially offensive lineman, to finally come
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  Speaker 1: back to practice. You're talking about eleven months most guys
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  Speaker 1: are back to some form of practice. Usually ten is
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  Speaker 1: usually at the latest. Pete. I mean some some guys
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  Speaker 1: are back sooner than that, maybe nine months for for
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  Speaker 1: an offensive lineman. Yeah, and that leads me little bit
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  Speaker 1: of a red flag for me. And I think we
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  Speaker 1: talked about this Jeff when I was up there. Um,
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  Speaker 1: that's a long time and Joe did he not do
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  Speaker 1: his rehab as diligently as he should? Was there a
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  Speaker 1: message sent by the head coach uh the other day?
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  Speaker 1: And you you know, Jeff, you played for Tom. You
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  Speaker 1: know how Tom would send those messages through the media
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  Speaker 1: and try and get those two players that looked like
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  Speaker 1: a message that was sent to him and message received
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  Speaker 1: because he was on the p off the pup list
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  Speaker 1: of it. Well, let me let me kind of You
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  Speaker 1: got two separate things going on there. Number one is
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  Speaker 1: is look, every knee is different. You know, could Cam
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  Speaker 1: Robinson's knee have responded later and that's why you know
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  Speaker 1: it has taken him some time to get back. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: So I don't want to sit here and say, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's on the player. Maybe he had something that
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  Speaker 1: needed to be further strengthened or any something like that.
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  Speaker 1: It's uncomfortable with something. I mean, look, I mean everybody's different.
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  Speaker 1: I mean not everybody comes back on the cookie Cutter
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  Speaker 1: rehab schedules, So something could have altered that schedule for him. Now,
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  Speaker 1: was this a message from Doug Marone on Saturday which
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  Speaker 1: prompted his return today? I will say this, Doug Moron,
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  Speaker 1: I've never gotten the impression him, never from talking with him,
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  Speaker 1: felt like he has ever sent any message through the media.
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  Speaker 1: I've never known him to do that. I think in
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  Speaker 1: this situation here, because when you get down to the
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  Speaker 1: end where a player has to clear medical hurdles to
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  Speaker 1: get cleared for practice so that he can be taken
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  Speaker 1: off of p up, the majority of that information is
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  Speaker 1: based on what the person or the individual is telling
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  Speaker 1: the doctor, and then the doctor makes a judgment call
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  Speaker 1: from that information. So did this end up maybe opening
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  Speaker 1: the eyes of Cam Robinson? Oh my gosh. Uh, they're
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  Speaker 1: preparing without me. I might not be ready or there
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  Speaker 1: might not be a job for me opening day if
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  Speaker 1: I don't hurry up and get back. I mean, did
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  Speaker 1: it open Cam Robinson's eyes? Maybe? Was it intended to
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  Speaker 1: be a message by Doug Marone? I don't think it
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  Speaker 1: was intended to be a message by Doug Marone. Doug
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  Speaker 1: Maron goes based off of what the doctors and the
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  Speaker 1: trainers are telling him. So but but Jeff, you know
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  Speaker 1: better than that that Tom never would push back the
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  Speaker 1: doctors back. And then I'm not saying Doug did here,
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  Speaker 1: but we know coaches that do do that, and they've
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  Speaker 1: done it over the years. See for me, isn't this
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  Speaker 1: a matter of can you do your work without having
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  Speaker 1: swelling and any other issues? And maybe he got to
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  Speaker 1: that point where yesterday he did his like a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days of work and there was no swelling, and
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  Speaker 1: they said, okay, let's go, then let's go talk. I
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  Speaker 1: think this was I think this is a forty eight
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  Speaker 1: hours is not going to change whether or not you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have swelling or not. I mean, that's not going
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  Speaker 1: to change. I mean, the only thing that's gonna change
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  Speaker 1: is the information that the individuals given the doctor based
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  Speaker 1: on can he or can he not do what is
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  Speaker 1: required of him out of practice. So I mean, if
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  Speaker 1: that's the case, then the message. Maybe maybe it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: a clear message from Doug Moron, but if it wasn't,
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  Speaker 1: it worked well exactly. Maybe it wasn't a message, but
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  Speaker 1: maybe it worked as one, which is fine. Yeah, maybe
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  Speaker 1: that message came from above and Doug was the mouthpiece,
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  Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. I wouldn't say that
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  Speaker 1: Pete Wood and he does often. So yes, I look,
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad he's back. And uh and Pete, I'll tell
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  Speaker 1: you this, I'm glad he's back because if he wants
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  Speaker 1: to be ready for opening Day, he's got to come
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  Speaker 1: back and he's got to compete with a boy, and
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  Speaker 1: he's got to show that he's gonna be the best
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  Speaker 1: option for the left tackle position. And that's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be easy to do because you're talking about a player
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  Speaker 1: who has not done a practice yet in his return
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  Speaker 1: from an A c L reconstruction, and you're talking about
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  Speaker 1: competing with a guy who look, by the way, he
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  Speaker 1: was a first round pick too. Uh, so he's got
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  Speaker 1: some talent. And it wasn't like that it was a
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  Speaker 1: reach for the Bengals. I mean, he was a consensus
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  Speaker 1: first round pick. That kind of messed him his draft
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  Speaker 1: des he was still a first round pick, you know,
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  Speaker 1: So I mean this, this, this is exactly what you want.
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  Speaker 1: I think if you're a coach, you want a position
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  Speaker 1: battle for the opening day starting job. There's nothing wrong
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  Speaker 1: with that. You would like to have your five guys
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  Speaker 1: get some work together eventually, though, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: before week one. You want your five guys who were
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  Speaker 1: gonna be your starting offensive alignment to have some kind
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  Speaker 1: of cohesiveness. Sure a practice field or in a game
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  Speaker 1: or whatever. Right that spot is open. Isn't there a
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  Speaker 1: battle at right guard going on now too? With Can
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  Speaker 1: and Richardson? Is now open battle too? Well? Look, I
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  Speaker 1: don't think it's a spoken job that's open, but I
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  Speaker 1: think look, here's the reality. Every job is open, and
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  Speaker 1: it sounds pretty public to me when they said it
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  Speaker 1: the other day. They're talking about will Richardson, Julia, he
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  Speaker 1: has a chance to win us. I mean, first of all,
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  Speaker 1: if you're going to compete for a starting right guard job,
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  Speaker 1: what's the first requirement you need to play right guard? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: what did he do in Game one? Played right tackle?
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  Speaker 1: Because of the numbers game, because of the injuries that
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  Speaker 1: they had at the tackle position, will Richardson had to
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  Speaker 1: play right tackle. So can he win that job? Sure,
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  Speaker 1: but he's got to be given the opportunity to play
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  Speaker 1: reps at right guard in a game situation. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: that's where the ultimate trust is gonna come from. So
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  Speaker 1: I think we not on a message, but Can was
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  Speaker 1: one of the few guys that actually lined up and
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  Speaker 1: played the other night as a start, as a potential
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  Speaker 1: starter that was a little well well. I think two
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  Speaker 1: reasons for that, Pete. Number one is is that they
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  Speaker 1: feel that a J needs the reps. I thought a
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  Speaker 1: J came out last year, had a wonderful camp. He
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  Speaker 1: was keeping his head up. The new emphasis on the
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  Speaker 1: helmet rule with the offensive lineman. It made him a
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  Speaker 1: better player. You've seen a couple of times where he's
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  Speaker 1: fallen back into that trap or the head is started
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  Speaker 1: to drop. But the other thing is that they want
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  Speaker 1: to know if a J can can be a center,
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  Speaker 1: And if a J can can be a center, then
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  Speaker 1: that changes the dynamic of what they do on game day.
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  Speaker 1: It also changes the dynamic of what they're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: too as far as shaping the roster at the offensive
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  Speaker 1: line position, because if you can have him snap, does
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  Speaker 1: that give you an option of letting Tyler Shatley go
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  Speaker 1: keeping these extra tackles maybe, or does it just give
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  Speaker 1: you an option on game day of having a j
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  Speaker 1: can active with Will Richardson Jr. Active as well with
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  Speaker 1: oh boy he active in Cam Robinson as a starter,
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  Speaker 1: or flip the tackles however you want to do it.
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  Speaker 1: But if you're gonna have seven active on game day,
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  Speaker 1: somebody gotta be able to play center in a pinch.
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  Speaker 1: So does that give you the ability to where Shatley
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  Speaker 1: is not that option? Maybe? Maybe, Jeff, I'm gonna pin
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  Speaker 1: you down right now, we're a month away. Who starts
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  Speaker 1: opening day on that offensive line? I think I think
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  Speaker 1: everything is obviously. I think A J. Cann Is the
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  Speaker 1: starter right guard. I don't think that there will be
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  Speaker 1: enough opportunity or reps for Will Richardson Jr. To be
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  Speaker 1: able to gain some traction at the right guard position
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  Speaker 1: the left tackle position. To me, uh, I mean, how
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  Speaker 1: do you pick it now? I mean we've we've seen
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  Speaker 1: Cam Robinson at one practice and he didn't even really
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  Speaker 1: do any team reps. You know, if I had to
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  Speaker 1: pick right now, if he's back, then I think Cam
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  Speaker 1: Robinson because he's their draft pick and he said he struggled.
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  Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I never thought he was. He
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  Speaker 1: had a great two first two seasons, even before he
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  Speaker 1: got hurt last year. So I think, but I get
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  Speaker 1: I get what you're saying that. I get what you're saying,
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  Speaker 1: but I think he's going to be the left tackle.
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  Speaker 1: But if he falters, if he falters and his footwork
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  Speaker 1: is not clean, and he's shown any signs of not
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  Speaker 1: being back and ready to go, then the way he's
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  Speaker 1: in and I think, now you're you know, hopefully Juwan
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  Speaker 1: Taylor starts to get back to practice and he can
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  Speaker 1: take the majority of the reps a right to you. Look,
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  Speaker 1: the reality of he's going to be your starter right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: I think everybody knows that, and everybody can see that.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it would be tough not to be able
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  Speaker 1: to see that with your own eyes. So, but because
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  Speaker 1: of that right tackle issue of health, and because of
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  Speaker 1: the right guard issue of health, you're having to do
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  Speaker 1: some things with guys that you would like to do
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  Speaker 1: something differently with. So it's a numbers game, Pete. Sometimes, look,
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  Speaker 1: when a couple of guys are down, did you get
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  Speaker 1: to evaluate will Richardson where you'd like to evaluate a mat,
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  Speaker 1: which is right guard. No, you's gotta play right tackle.
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  Speaker 1: That's what your numbers tell you interesting stuff in the
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  Speaker 1: offensive line. That's a training camp in the preseason all that,
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  Speaker 1: and look, it's great. I thought A J. Cann did
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good job at center, and the reps that
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  Speaker 1: he got during a game, you think, so I did
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  Speaker 1: a pretty good job. The biggest question that I have
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  Speaker 1: for A J. Can Pete and you know this, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: when you have a guy that is not a historic center,
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  Speaker 1: which I mean you know, you're born and raised and
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  Speaker 1: you were playing center since little league in high school.
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  Speaker 1: What happens in a shotgun snap and you got a
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  Speaker 1: guy right on top of your nose, right? I mean, look,
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  Speaker 1: it's it's easy to do it in practice. All of
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  Speaker 1: a sudden, the lights get bright and you put uh
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  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald on top of you and you're in a
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  Speaker 1: shotgun situation. Is it's never gonna get the nick foles,
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  Speaker 1: you know. So those are the things that are hard
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  Speaker 1: to evaluate and until you get under the lights in
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  Speaker 1: the preseason. And then that's one of the reasons why
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  Speaker 1: I think A. J. Candell was active when so many
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  Speaker 1: others starters were not active. You need to evaluate him
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  Speaker 1: as a center. We'll have plenty more talk on the
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  Speaker 1: left tackle position. We will get to your questions on
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  Speaker 1: social media today as well. Send us a tweet on Twitter.
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  Speaker 1: That's where you send tweets, and we'll get to those
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  Speaker 1: in the second hour to including some questions about the
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  Speaker 1: left tackle well and and coming up, and questions about
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  Speaker 1: the left tackle that was in a Twitter video. We'll
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  Speaker 1: get to that in the questions. I got a lot
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  Speaker 1: of questions about that video. Yes, we will. We'll delve
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  Speaker 1: back into that a little bit later today. We'll come
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  Speaker 1: back in a moment and the philosophy of starting or
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  Speaker 1: not starting to start or not to start, that is
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  Speaker 1: the question we'll hear from Nick Foles when we come back.
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  Speaker 1: a method behind the madness, so we trust that, um.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: But you know, and the you of see practice. I mean,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: we're competing every single play. You know, we're pushing through,
• 17:24
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  Speaker 1: through it, and you know, we're working to get better.
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  Speaker 1: So we're getting those game reps out here. Obviously it's
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  Speaker 1: and that is a different animal in itself. But we're
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  Speaker 1: we're getting a lot of work, um, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: know we'll be ready, you know we'll be ready to roll.
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  Speaker 1: And you know there's always some butterflies when you get
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  Speaker 1: back out there and to play, don't matter what game
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  Speaker 1: that ain't hard. Wow, that's not hard, right, Yeah, you
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  Speaker 1: Nick Foles? Should Nick Foles play anything of this game
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  Speaker 1: Thursday Night? I want to let Pete start this because
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I think this is a great debate and I don't
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: I don't think there's any right answer, but people will
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: swear up and down that he has the right answer. Well,
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: my right answer is he should play, um, you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: and then look a series or two whatever, depending on
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: how long the series is. If the series is three
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and out and you put him in for a second one,
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: if the series is you know, eight plays and you
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: get a field goal out of it, then you get
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: him out of there. But I think he needs to
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: get to work. I think you can wait till week three.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: You know you're not playing in week four. Uh so yeah,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: I think he does need to get to work. But
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: nothing important, you know. I was talking a chat with
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: Philip Rowers the other night on the sideline. I would say,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: do you get anything out of preseason? He says, I
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: get way more out of the practices that are working
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: with other teams. He had forty throws against the Rams
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: the other day, and he played in the preseason. He
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: might get too, maybe in the first quarter, I mean
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: the first couple of drives. So I do think it
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: will be careful with it. But I would play him
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: this week if I were the Jaguars. Did you hear
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: those numbers? It's amazing, right, Okay? Yeah? Uh, and uh
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: that's something that I'm gonna actually have a conversation with
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: Doug Moron about for the pregame interview. I've got it
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: on my list Radio, I've got I've got it on
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: my list of things to ask Doug Moron because you
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: know what, it's been a hot topic. Yes, it really
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: has been. And uh, and we're also going to talk
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: with him about it for Jaguars weekend coming up. We'll
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: talk to him about it after the preseason game number
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: two and then we'll find out what happens in preseason
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: game number two. Cool. Uh, what is the right answer
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: in today's NFL. I don't know if there is a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: right answer, but what I feel more comfortable seeing my
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: starters out there. Yes, but I will say this, Pete.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: When you go to a Jaguars practice, whether they be
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: in Baltimore or out here at the practice fields, you
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: are seeing the number ones get a for And I
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: have a word that I would use to describe it,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: which is a pile of you know, a bunch of pile,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: but I'll use this term. They are taking a lot
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: of snaps in practice and against the Baltimore Ravens, and
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: two practices against the Ravens, the number one took the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: majority of the snaps. So I think the philosophy shift
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: is this, If you play them in the game, you're
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: probably backing out of some reps in practice. Or you
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: could flip that. You could decrease the reps in a
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: game and increase the reps in practice in a controlled
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: environment where you know your starters, the guys that are
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: critical are not gonna get hurt. So what is the
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: right of doing things? Well, I don't think there's a
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: right answer here, but I will say that it makes
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: the fan base and it makes us as observers probably
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: more comfortable by seeing the starters and the team play. Right.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: So I mean, what are we looking for? Are we
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: looking for the team to play so we can go, oh,
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: our team is gonna be okay, they looked good the
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: other night. Or what's the more important thing when the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: games start for real and September. Now, here's a question
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: for you. If the entire offensive line is healthy, if
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: everybody in this offense is healthy and ready to go,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: does that make a difference right now? Like if you
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: what do you mean as far as if everybody's healthy,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: It doesn't make a difference what your decision is right
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: now for a week? Two? Do no? It does not
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: either playfuls to two series or you don't play him
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: at all. It doesn't have any bearing on who's in
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the in the for me on the offensive line. You know.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Here's the other thing is anything you take away from preseason.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: And Jeff, you've known this for a long time. I
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: have to you can't take anything from games, nothing, zero, zippo.
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: Because nobody schemes anything. It's hard to evaluate players. It's
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: just for me. I think sometimes guys are just trying
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to get acclimated to the game speed. Uh. And so
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: for me, I I almost never take anything from the preseason.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: And it used to be a week three you could
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: take stuff from that because supposedly it was game week.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: Even that has been pulled back some and so so
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: it's hard to get a real I get more out
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: of watching two teams practice against each other then I
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: do at any of the preseason games. Yeah, I think
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: I think that's more valuable, the practice time going against
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: somebody than actually the games. Even though the game snaps,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: you know, you do have benefit of it because the
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: intensity ramps up. They're getting a player who wants to
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: compete at a high level. Uh. You know, So, I
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: mean I don't know if there's a right answer, and
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: you bring up you bring up a great point. How
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: do you evaluate preseason Okay, Number one is is what
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: is the game? And do you think that Todd Walsh
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: is playing his nickel defense with the full bag of
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: calls in a preseason game? So if if he's not,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: can you really evaluate the game and say, boy, that
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: was good or that was bad? You can't because a
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: lot of times when when the Jaguars are playing in
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the preseason game, they might have four plays in the
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: playbook and its entirety offensively and run those four plays
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: play in and play out. So they're not changing anything up.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: They're not giving anything any kind of different looks. And
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you know what, the defense may be playing guys that
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: normally wouldn't play, or the defense maybe playing a defensive
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: system that they're not gonna play in that situation in
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a regular game. For examples, like the other night, I
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: did the Cardinals game, right, I was at Arizona. Want
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: to go see Murray's first game. He completed five or
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: six passes or whatever it was. He didn't play in
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: any style or four of the offense that they're gonna
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: use during the regular season. Nothing, it was zero. Well,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: there's many times, Kingsbury like to spread people out and
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: play five. I mean, people don't show things in the preseason.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: But if you go to a practice and I'm sure
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: you guys saw this last year last week at Baltimore,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: when you go to a practice where they're working against
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: other team, they'll do a lot more of their stuff.
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: They'll show more stuff because it's not on tape, and
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: you know it's not easy to get log on and
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: find it and see it. So I think you show
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: a lot more and working a lot more when you're
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: going against the team in practice than you're doing the preseason.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: For example, real quick, JP, multiple times in a preseason game,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: you've seen the Jaguars playing an offense that might be
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in a three wide receiver set, but yet the Jaguars
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: are playing a base defense. I mean, they're not even
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: playing a nickel defense versus three or four wides. They're like,
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: we'll just play it in based defense because that's what
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: we have and and we don't want to substitute the
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: extra defensive backs or it's a personnel issue or what
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: you know. So so, I mean, so in the preseason,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: you never get apples to apples and oranges to oranges.
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: You always get apples versus oranges, and oranges versus apples. Well,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: let me ask you this, guys, when is this going
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: to change? Are they gonna shorten this preseason at some
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: point down the It's it that you in a perfect world,
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: you'd like to see him short in the preseason, But
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: are they going to I mean, here's the thing. Do
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: you do? You go to your fan base and say, hey, look,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: we're taking away two preseason games, and so now your
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: per ticket charges increased per game for season tickets. Uh,
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think that's that's the one
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: obstacle I think to to eliminating it's part of the
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: preseason or all of the preseason. But the reality is
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: that every coach will tell you that, and I think
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: the majority of the consensus is among coaches in the
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: National Football League that if you give them two preseason games,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: that is plenty. And anybody the coach that will tell
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: you anything different Pete is not telling the truth too.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: And work with other teams either, you know, maybe twice.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And for example, I'm a big believer, and I do
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: still think it's going to eighteen games at some point.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's a reality the rosters are gonna get increased,
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: there's gonna be more jobs, more money than networks will
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: like it, the teams will like it, the owners will
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: like it, the players will make more money, and there'll
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: be more jobs. So I do think it's going there.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: But you gotta get rid of two of them. And
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: what you do is Jacksonville wentn't worked out with Baltimore
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: for for two days. That's still gonna happen, But I
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: still think they need to add something else and what
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: I would add, and it would make a lot of
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: sense to help grow your NFL fan base. And some
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: people think you don't have to, but there's always you know,
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: people out there that can't go to games. Go in
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: between two cities. For example, the Jaguars would go meet
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the Falcons and Valdosta have a workout with him on
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: one day, have like the supposed scrimmage, although you don't
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: tackle at nighttime on one day, make a little festival
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: around it, and give the money to charity all of it.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: All the money goes to a local charity, and therefore
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: gonna grow your fan base. People who from Valdosta who
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: can't go to Atlanta, can't afford to go to Atlanta,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: can't afford to go to Jacksonville. We'll see an NFL game.
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: Miami and Tampa might need you know, whoever, wherever whatever, Right, yeah, wait, wait,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: anyway you think you think that they're gonna do something
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: like that, that's ridiculous, Pete, because the facilities aren't up
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: to parig No, the facilities wouldn't be up to par
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: doing something like that. You're gonna stay, You're gonna stick
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: with what you do. That I think the best way
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: to do it in the preseas. You still continue to
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: play your your two preseason games, but you take those
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: two preseason games and you have two weeks off from
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: the last preseason game to the first regular season game,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: and then the first preseason game was almost unassured. We're
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: gonna travel to a team and practice with them, or
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: they're gonna come to us, and then we practice each other.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: You could do the same thing on the second game,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: and then your starters wouldn't have to play the second
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: preseason game, which will be your last preseason game, and
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: then you would have two weeks to get ready for
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the season opener. To me, that's that's the way you
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: should do it, and it gives you ample time to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: get ready. You go of like vald Austin State or
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: something and do it. I like your idea, but the
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: facilities aren't. Aren't the quality at Valdosta State that you're
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: gonna have the Falcons in and UH Titans used to
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: go meet in Dalton, George at a high school facility.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Do you think do you think the the NFL Players
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: Association is going to agree to go play at a
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: high school stadium or to go to some college facilities
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: or it's like a couple of work days just like
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: they do it. Okay, No, because it's an NFL player,
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I can tell you I wouldn't go to a high
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: school field and expect the facility to be as quality
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: to NFL standards about the field itself. It's a safety
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: to safety issue. Pete. You you gotta stick with the
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: NFL facilities. I mean, that's all fine and dandy. Let's
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: just let's not get carried away by by changing the
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: entire dynamic of preseason by wanting to travel to high schools.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: Didn't it's college. Just cut two games out, go to
• 28:52
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• 28:58
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  Speaker 1: of everybody's kind of you know, Tavin Bryan's the first
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  Speaker 1: round pick? Why is he playing like a first round pick? Is?
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: The argument? Is he is he? How is he playing
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: in this preseason and in this camp. We'll start with you,
• 34:27
  Speaker 1: what have you seen from Taban Bron. Let me say this, Uh,
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: he he didn't pick himself in the first round, so uh,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: I think do you consider that though when you evaluate
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: the player? I mean you do that somewhat because it's
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: just natural and the team picked himself. It's more you
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: evaluate the team's picking. Taven Bryant is a first round pick.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: How's he doing? Does he look and play like a
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: first round pick? So far? There are moments that Taven
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Bryan has to where he is a physical, dominant presence
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: and he looks like a first round pick. Just like
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: in the game. He pushed the pocket a couple of
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: different times and he actually looked pretty good then rated
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: pretty well with the coaching staff. And then there are
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: other times when he pushed the pocket and the quarterback
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: literally steps up right past him and then Tavin didn't
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: see it and so the awareness was not there. But
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: that's something that you expect a first round caliber talent
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: to be able to come off and make the play.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: And so so it's kind of a mixed bag. But
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: I will say this, he's gotten better. And I think
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: part of the reason that he's gotten better is that
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: the coaches at the beginning of camp and last year
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: they were alternating him. Remember last year they had him
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: in a strong the strong end position, which was backing
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: up Clay's Campbell. Well, they learned last year that he
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: was better as a three technique just getting off the ball,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: which he does have a very good good off and
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: in training camp they started him out kind of the
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: same pattern. They had him at a strong side in
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: and then the three technique and then now though they
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: had been keeping him at just the three technique, and
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: I think that has helped him, but he still has
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: a ways to go. And that Florida was very similar.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: He was very close to making a lot of place.
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: But the situational awareness or the football awareness needs to
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: be increased. And how is that a a learning thing
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: where you're thinking about alignment, assignment, responsibility and then once
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: you get all those things taken care of Pete, then
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: everything else falls into place. I don't know the answer
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to that, but only time will tell you know, I'll
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: be honest with you. I was working that night, and
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: but you know, being on Twitter and seeing all the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: tweets coming out about him uh and beating him up,
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: and then you know, thinking, I thought, Okay, this kid
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was on his back a lot. He was getting dominated.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: And then I went back and rewatched the game and
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I didn't think it was nearly as bad as it
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: was portrayed. He had he had too bad place, Pete,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: too bad place. And you make a good point, Jeff,
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: he did push the pocket a couple of times. Now
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: he just got to learn how to disengage and make
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: the play. But I expected to see from just judging
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: from the tweets that I saw, I expected him to
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: spend the after the evening on his back and that
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: wasn't the case. No, no, what was and like that.
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: But the one thing he's got to learn, for some reason,
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: when he tries to disengage off of that power position,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of times he he gets weak. So in
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: other words, when you when you are throwing an offensive lineman,
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: you have to be violent, and it has to be
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: a violent physical move to disengage. It can't be I'm
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: letting go and then trying to fall off or sluft
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: off because they re engage you. They re engage you,
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: and they don't like they don't let go. That's offensive
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: line are taught old. I will say that there were
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: two plays in the game that we're not good, and
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: they were short yardage plays, and in both instances he
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: was knocked off the ball a couple of yards each,
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: And so that was not good. I mean, because if
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: you're going to be big, strong, physical short yardage, you
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: need to be the same thing. But but you would
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: agree with me, not nearly as bad as the portrayal.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Oh no, no, no, I'd like to do some good things,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: some bad things. That's the preseason and and hopefully he
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: continues to get better because he's gonna get a lot
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: of a lot of rotational playtime. You know, he's gonna
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: be not gonna be a starter, but he's gonna be
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: a guy that gets a ton of reps. Right. I mean,
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: let's see, Josh Allen made his Jaguars debut first snap,
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: had a tackle for loss in the game against Baltimore.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: How did he look on the first in his first
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: Jaguars I thought he looked good and I was happy that, uh,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: you know, he got to see the ones. He got
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: to see, Uh what's the left tackle from Notre Dame,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Stanley Stanley. And then he also got to see the
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: starting right tackle that played a significant amount of playing time,
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: which was the Orlando Brown Jr. Right and that the
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: right tackle from Oklahoma. And I think that they played
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: him a ton of that ball game because he came
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to camp and he was out of shape. But I mean,
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: two excellent tackles to face for Josh Allen. The very
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: first play of the game, I thought it was a
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: very used to play was it a dominant play. I
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: wouldn't say a dominant play, but a nice way to start. Uh. Look,
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time for him to get comfortable
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: putting his hand on the ground. A lot of times
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: when he tries to line up on a tight end
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: in a three point stance, that is something new for
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: him and it is very difficult to learn to do that.
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: But I thought the rushes he started to show signs
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: in the week of practice against the Ravens and and
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: also in the game that he was starting to work
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: the edges of the offensive lineman, which a lot of
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: times when you're a young pass rusher, you try to
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman down the middle and you overpower
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: the man. That doesn't work in the National Football League
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: because the offensive tackles are too strong and too athletic.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: And so he's starting to work the edges and that's
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: a good sign. And he's starting to show his speed
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: and his get off. And he's kind of unique, and
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: he's fun to watch from from my standpoint because he
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: plays the game from a three point and he also
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: has the ability to do it from a two point
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: because he does have a very good get off. Most
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: people want to get into a track stance a three
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: point stands to be able to rush the passer. But
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: he has a good enough get off an anticipation that
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: he can actually do it in a two point So
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: a lot of people at times Pete may see him
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: in a game and go always playing linebacker. Now he's
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: in a two point stands. Well, no, he's just playing
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: defensive end from a two point stands, which you can do.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: And then look the old three four or four three
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: stuff that's out the window in your Nickel sev at
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: the time. Anyway, So you know all these teams like
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: the Caroline Panthers, we're switching to a three four. Yeah
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: you are, but you're not gonna have seven guys on
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: your front anymore. It's just not the way you play.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: So this kid's versatility, to me, is is what's important
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: to this defense. When they go to Nickel ideal scenario
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: and Nickel in the regular season, it will be Klais
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Campbell and Darius inside with him at left end and
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: then god, wait, right end and that's what Yeah, that
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: that's right, and then you'll have uh, you'll have McCray
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: as the sub. He'll be the next guy up on
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: the outside edges and then Tavan Bryan will be the
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: next guy up in the middle. Two tackle positions for that,
• 41:01
  Speaker 1: Nick Nickel what we call subsituation. Pretty good group, right,
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: that's it. When you come to the line of scrimmage
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: and see that for that's a good pass rushing for
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: pret you good, I Pete, I said this before that
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: I I expect Josh Allen to break the Jaguars rookie
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: sack record, which is currently held buying Gockway. I think
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: he has that kind of ability and that kind of
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: tenacity and and I expect him to be able to
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: do that, and I think he will. I think he's
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: that good. So if if he breaks the rookie sack
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: record and Gockway gets what here we go, Here we
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: go Dannel eleven. I mean, if Calais gets twelve and
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Darius gets six, Now you're talking about a defensive line
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: that gets you near forty. Yeah, it's pretty good. Good,
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: that's pretty good. You're gonna pay some of these guys
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: at some point. Let's let's hope, let's hope J. P.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: Pete that they can get those numbers that Pete talk about.
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: That would be defense is going to be down right now.
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna like, jump ahead, what do
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: they do after that happened? Next year? You can't worry
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: about that now. But if you get forty out of
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: him this year, I'll tell you what they'll do. Cartwheels
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: over that. Oh buddy, that would that would be amazing.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: And look, I will tell you this. Pete Duck Morons
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: talked about it a couple of different times, and he's
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: talked about the pass rush ability of Marcel Darius and
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: he wants to see more. A couple of years ago
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: and we watched Marcel Darius with the Buffalo Bills. Uh Man.
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: He was tough, he was he was a dominant pass
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: rusher himself. And I want to see more of what
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: Doug is asking for from the pass rusher standpoint, to
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: see him finish his pass rush. A lot of times
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Marcel as a tendency to kind of quit on his
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: pass rush. He's got the ability to finish, and I
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: want to see him finish because if he finishes with
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: power and he gets a good get off. J P
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: at Alabama was a big strong man at at Buffalo.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: It was the same thing. He looks like a man
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: among boys when he gets it cranked. He seems is
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: he slimmer than he was last year. It seems like
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: he's trimmed a little bit. A little big guy, you
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: know what I mean, he looks good, but I mean
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: he looks like he's in shape. He looks like he's
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: ready to go. The watching him in practice his stuff
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: against the run, he's still just so strong. I mean
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: he's I mean, he could have a double team and
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: it's and it's like he's he holds the double team off,
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: you know, with one hand, and then he's sipping a
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: coke and reading the newspaper with the other one. I mean,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: he's he's got that kind of strength. I mean, just
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: very uncanny. I mean it's also it's also a money
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: year for him, true. I mean, basically he's got a
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: one year deal because they got the ten million dollar
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: roster bonus that they'd have to pay him next year.
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: So this is a money year for him. So I think,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: you know, every sack you get when you're an interior
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: rush guy, the money goes up. So I think from
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: that standpoint, he should be good rushing the pastor this year.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: You bring up a great point because if it's a
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: money year when you say every sack means something, and
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: every sack could mean a million in future earnings for
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: Marcel Brice if you think about it. And this is
• 44:07
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• 44:11
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• 44:14
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• 44:16
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• 44:24
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• 44:28
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• 44:36
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• 44:41
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• 44:53
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• 44:59
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  Speaker 1: show an opponent that you were more mentally tough than
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: they were when it came to the heat. That's the
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: real thing. Yeah, I mean, it was a real deal.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, we we took pride in the fact that
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: we were mentally tougher than anybody in the heat, and
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: I think in the early years it showed. It was
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: one of the few things we could hang our hat
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: on in early days, Pete, as you knew from looking
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: at that roster that we had. But uh, yeah it
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: let me let me re emphasize again because in the
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: Jaguars practice yesterday that they had in this heat, the
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: starters once again got a ton of reps in practice.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: And again this is all part of this philosophy. And
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: that's why I don't know how much or if the
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: starters will play in preseason Game number two, just because
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: of the sheer number of snaps that I'm seeing them
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: take in practice yesterday and in practice today. It is
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: mentally tough for them, uh as in modern day standards,
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: and good for them. So we'll see what happens on Thursday. Though.
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: You know, it's funny. I was in Green Bay the
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: other day and it was like five and they were
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: complaining about the heat, and I said, you guys have
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: no idea zero, You have no idea what you're talking
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: about when it comes to the heat, because that was
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: you know, it was hot, but not like the South,
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: you know how the South is. Yeah, that's a lot different,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: you know, And I think it begs the other question. Look,
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: if you're the Jaguars and Doug Brons got this new
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: philosophy that is, we're gonna rest our players in the preseason,
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: play them sparingly, and then get ready for the regular season,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: what's the business side of the jack first? Think about
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: that to where you know, you had a performance like
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: you did last week in in Baltimore and a lot
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: of your stars didn't play and a lot of that
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: reason is because of that. And so if you come
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: out again this week and you don't play starters again,
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: what is that doing for the telephones that are sitting
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: in the ticketing office. What is that doing for sponsorship
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: and the opportunities that the Jaguars have available, right, I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: mean that that's I agree with you. I'd be really
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: concerned about that if I were I were the team
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: and the marketing people, because you want to see guys
• 53:42
  Speaker 1: want to be Nobody wants to pay that money to
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: go see nobody play. I got think just reading through
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: the lines, I don't know this for a fact, but
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: reading through the lines, did you get the impression that
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: Folds might not play? I mean, just listening to him, well,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: I get thinking about that vibe, I get, well, just
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: seeing the snaps is me the impression that there's gonna
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: be a lot of guys this week that may not play.
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: But I mean, maybe he's got the next couple of
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: days to rest him and get it ready for a game.
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: But I don't know, Pete. But I mean, I'm I'm
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: not just talking about the telephones in the ticketing office
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: when it comes to preseason games. I'm talking about the
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: ticket office number when it comes to the regular season.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: You know, if if this were an established franchise that
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: has had established winning you know, doing something as drastic
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: or not wa drastic? Could I want to call it drastic,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: But doing something different in the preseason like they done,
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: it would be no big deal because the expectations, well,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: this team wins, well, this team over the last couple
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: of years has been up and down. So but where
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: are they at from that standpoint? You know? So? And
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: and how are the ticket sales? I had heard they
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: were just yeah, I don't interesting stuff. I mean, that's
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the last There was a big rush to sell tickets
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: because they had the you know, the enthusiasm from the
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: year before. But um, so you're right, Jeff, it matters
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: for other games, not just the preseason, that's right, But
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: in the on the football decision side of things, if
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: it's a strictly football decision, that's their decision to not
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: put guys out and get them ready for opening days. Well,
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: and you and Pete, you know where does that cross
• 55:24
  Speaker 1: the line? You can't you can't have business telling the
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: football side of things what to do, because you have
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: to do it from the football side of things to
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: make the best decision for your football team. At the
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: end of the day, the only thing that matters is
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: when the winds start to count. It give you a purchase. Example, Pete,
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: when was the last time or the only time that
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: the Jaguars had an undefeated preseason? Sure, do you remember
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: they had one? Have they even had one? No? I
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: would say no. See that's my point. Nobody, nobody cares.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Nobody cares about the preseason, So is it gonna care?
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: Doesn't matter what they do now when they went on
• 56:10
  Speaker 1: when they didn't win a game. By the way, the
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: Jaguars we were underfeed. Well, okay, you were trying to
• 56:16
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  Speaker 1: logs five six. Speaking of speaking on Twitter, chrisco CBS Yes,
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about that Twitter thing. Yeah, yeah, kind
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: of crazy. The video, Yeah yeah, what were they Why
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 1: were they attacking the chair? That's a great question. So
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: there's a video. It was apparently I think, on C. J.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Revis's Instagram and then it was taken from the air
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: by some fans I think, on Twitter and put on
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Twitter of some players dancing. It looked like in the
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: locker room and attacking a chair and then jumping somewhere
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: jumping on a chair and it wasn't a good look.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: But but who was it supposed to be? Who the chair? Yeah,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: somebody said that. Somebody did somebody that used it on
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: Twitter said that the chair was Kaughlin. But that's somebody's opinion,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: So it's not like the player put that out there. Okay,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: but why would you attack a chair in the locker
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: room and dance around? I didn't get I have no
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: idea pete um, but it wasn't It wasn't a good look.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: And then in the background you see Cam Robinson standing
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: up on like a chair or a sofa, and you're going,
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: wait a minute, anything on pup not able to practice.
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: But he's like standing up on a couch in a
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: in a video not a good look. I mean, I'm
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: sure that I can tell you this if if you
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: were a teammate of mind you kind of look at
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: that and go, wait a minute now, if you can't practice,
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: you shouldn't be standing on a chair, you know, in
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the locker room. I mean that that's a weird thing
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: to happened in the locker room. Next thing you know,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: they're gonna put an accent there. But but the good news,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 1: the good news from the video is I don't know
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: if the video had anything to do with Cam Robinson
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: practice in today, but he practiced today. So you know,
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: somebody on the team, somebody in the coaches staff saw
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: that and said, hey, can you can do that? But
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: you can't practice if you were, if you were Cam's
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: friend on the team, when you go, hey Cam, uh,
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: you know the video and you're not practicing, Hey man,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: you gotta practice or you don't stand on the couch
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: or the chair, right right. If I'm whoever put that
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: was it, Reva's the safety put it out right. If
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a teammate on that, what are you doing? Well?
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: Let Pete, let me let me bring this up, because
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: I think you bring up a great point because me
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: and JP talked about this and that, in my opinion,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: that should be a finable offense. And I'm talking about
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: from the team level, But as a player, I would
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: want if I'm a player in the locker room, I
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: would want C. J. Rees to get fine because I
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: don't want somebody tweeting out or instagramming out video out
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: of the locker room. Because what happens is something's in
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: the background of the player doesn't pay attention to it,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: but yet he tweets it out, he puts it on
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: Instagram or whatever, and it puts a teammate in a
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: bad light or or some former fashion. Uh, that teammate
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: gets called out for something that he didn't even know
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: was out there. I mean to me, that's dangerous because
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: you know, locker room time well because the players look,
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: the players always believe, and as a player, I always
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: believe this look. The locker room is our place. Okay,
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: when it's open to the media, it's open to the media,
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: and we have to talk to Pete and we have
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: to talk to John o'shure. I get that. But when
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: it's not open, that's a place of comfort and privacy,
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: not for somebody in the locker room to be putting
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: out videos. I can tell you that. Will you make
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: you that, Pete, we'll get back to. Yeah, well you're
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: very strong about that. You can't you can't be putting
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 1: out video from our house. If I'm a guy in
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: that locker room, uh, class Campbell or a Nick Foles
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: or somebody, you go to ce j Reeves and say, look,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: this is our locker room, and you don't have a
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: right to put anything out about our locker room unless
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: you get our permission, and our means all ninety guys
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: right now and once you get to the right season. Jeff,
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: I thought that crossed the line um And if I
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: were a player in that locker room, I would not
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: be happy with that, right. No, absolutely not. That's something
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: that needs to be policed in the locker room by
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: the correct and and and then needs to be reinforced
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: by a fine, in my opinion, fined by the team.
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: But the players should be angry with him too. Absolutely.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: And if that happened when you were playing, you were
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 1: a union rep, you would have gone over to the
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: guy and said, hey, dude, we can't have this. In
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: a minute, Yeah, in a minute, we go from this
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: topic to UH, Jaguars running back Leonard Ford that who's
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: had his past things around here, but so far this offseason,
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 1: he's been a good citizen in Jaguar world. Seems like
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: he's been good and the t A. So I wouldn't
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: say a great citizen. I know you said good, right,
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: that's probably he's done some interviews, He's done some good things.
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: You know. It seems like, um, he's he seems to
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: involved in the sideline of the United He had the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: headset on during the game, which that was the first
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: Jaguars game since the last game of the season last year,
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: when he's on the sideline on the bench. But Pete
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: I made a comment during the game broadcast when it
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: was pointed out by our sideline guy, Rick Blue that
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette is engaged on the sideline. He's wearing a headset,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: he's talking to his teammates that are playing and UH
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: and the coach and I'm going, wow, think about the
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: last time that we saw Leonard Fournette on the sideline
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: and he was not dressed and sitting on the bench
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: with a dress. T J Yelden and the body language said,
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: I could care less about being here. I could care
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: less about my football team and let's just go home.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: So I mean, boy, I mean, you talk about two
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: completely different looks for Leonard Fournette. So but what we
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: saw in Baltimore, I mean, you gotta look at it
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: as a positive, correct, I mean the other way you
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: could look at absolutely, I think this is a great stuff.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: You know, you too, and and and I think aside,
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: I'm with you, Jeff. He should have been there for
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: all the O T S. But you know, you don't
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: know what's going on in the guy's personal life. Some
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: stuff might happen flag, you know, but so maybe miss
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: a couple But he should have been there after everything
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: he went through last year and they had to talk
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: with him, he probably should have been there. But I
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 1: think everything he's shown so far this summer is good
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: in the right direction, but good. And maybe he needed
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: the time off from the O T A S to
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: get rid of the bad people, which he talked about
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: in an article that was just put out about how
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 1: he got rid of the bad people in his life
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 1: and everything that I've seen out of him so far
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: in training camp, Pete as far as availability um uh
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: effort during practice effort when I was When I say
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: effort during practice, I'm talking when the whistle blows and
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: then when the whistle blows again or some when the
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: ball snapped and whistle blows. He's been during outstanding. I
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: mean our certain times I'd like to to see him run
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: back to the huddle and all those kind of things.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: But look, I think in his catching ability he's been.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: He's has been really good in camp so far. And
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: he is a guy that I would not want to
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: see play in the preseason whatsoever, because I'm seeing the
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: other running backs Pete and I don't see anything close
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: to Leonard four Nette right now. No, I wouldn't play
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: him at all in the preseason none, you know. And
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: if I have a lead runner, I'm not playing him
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: in the preseason, no matter where you are. I'm just not.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's worth it. Um, he
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: doesn't need that. I wouldn't play him at all, and
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: just find out what you have behind them. That's what
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 1: you use a preseason for. Figure out if any of
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: those guys can be the number two back. Look, the
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: rookie ran hard a couple of times the other day.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: You look, he did some nice things Armstead, Yes, yes, yeah,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: he ended up in the concussion protocol PETE And during
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: the game watching the film, he took a shot he literally,
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: I mean very very physical style of running by the way,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: which was impressive. And he's going through the line of
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: scrimmage and this is the last play that I saw
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: that he had on film, and he gets kind of
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 1: wrapped up from the side behind and then here comes
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: the safety and I want to say his number was
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 1: twenty three, and he was the guy that was um
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: a little a little bit of a uh jerk in
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: practice because he was hitting guys when they didn't really
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: need to be hit. Well, it's game time, so you
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: can hit. Okay, it's okay. Twenty three comes in and
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: the crown of his helmet hits Roquell Armstead literally right
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: in the chin, and you could but there was nowhere
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: for Armstead's body to go because he had a defender
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: draped on his back, and so you just saw the
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: whole head to shake and you went, that was a
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: knockout punch right there. And and I didn't see what
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: happened after that because it's film, and then the play ends.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: When the play is over, you don't get to see
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: him walk off the field or anything. And I didn't
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: notice it during the game. So, but he took a shot, now,
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 1: he took it. He took a really good shot. Who
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: you said it was from Tony Jefferson did, Yeah, I
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: think that's who it was. It was three did three ball.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: But he stroked him. Now, I mean, if you're if
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: you're a teammate of Tony Jefferson, you're high five and
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: him when he's coming off field on that one. Now, Yeah,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: he's a good player. Yeah, he's a good player. He's
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: he's uh, he likes to talk a lot. Yeah, yeah, chippy.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: So you mentioned the rest of the running backs here,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: Alfred Blue, Thomas Rawls is back in the practice field,
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: Devonte Mays is out there, second year player from Utah State.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: What do you like about those guys? You said they
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 1: don't they don't stand up to standard. Look, look, Armstead.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: I like him because he's got a physical style of
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: running the football and uh, he's very efficient with his feet.
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: He gets north and south. I don't like his catching
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: ability now in camp so far, he when he's been
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: out there and obviously he's not practicing right now, but
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: when he's been out there, he's shown the ability to
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: catch the ball, but he's had like two drops was all,
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising because when you turned on
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: his college tape it wasn't very good. I'm I'm talking
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: about just his catching ability, So I hope that this
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 1: is something that he can just get better at and
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 1: improve that. But I mean, once you get past him,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: Alfred Blue is kind of a kind of a I
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: don't want to say slow, but he's kind of a
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: long strider. So he kind of gives you the gives you.
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: He gives you the impression that he's slow, but he's not.
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: He's a glider, he's not. He's not sudden, but he's
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: a big body. I think he's an okay backup and
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: he's a guy that you can trust because he's put
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: some time in with Houston Texans. But besides those three guys,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: I mean okay, I mean Thomas Rawls got a pep
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: and his step a great special teams effort guy. Uh
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 1: coming back from what appeared to be an injured hamstring.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 1: I remember watching him when he when he appeared to
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: pull his hamstring. So far, he's looked good since he's
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 1: been back. Um, but but I mean, okay, I mean
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: they might they might address that position after the cuts. Maybe, yeah,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 1: they might, they might address that when you look at
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: the cuts that are coming. You know, some of these
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: teams are these young backs that they found, and you
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: might find the guy off the cuts that it could
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 1: end up being on that roster. No, you could. I
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: think you're you're not gonna be. I think you're gonna
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: be like a three running back roster. I don't see
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: them keeping more than three. Well, you would keep you
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: were you figurally gonna keep fordet in Armstead for sure.
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: So for net Armstead, Alfred Blue, that's my expectation. But
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: if you found somebody other than Blue, you might get
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: rid of Blue and bring that guy in well. And
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: and if if you keep another guy, it's got to
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: be somebody that's gonna be really good on special teams.
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: And right now, the guy that seems to be the
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: committed the most of special teams is Thomas Rawls. I
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: mean he gets it. I mean usually the guys that
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: are in league for a little while that are bubble
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: type positional players, they've figured it out. Row is in
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: his fourth year, he's been through this, he's figured it out.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, here's the reality. All these
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: guys come from college and we're stars wherever they were at,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: right to some of them, I mean to some extent,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: I mean different levels of stars obviously. But when you
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: come into the National Football League, if you're not the
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 1: first or the second team on the depth chart, guess
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: what your Your status on the roster is determined by
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: whether or not you can play special teams. So you
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 1: get to the third or fourth running back JP, can
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: you play special teams? That's the first question. As a safety,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: the third safety has got to be a quality starter
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: if he has to take over for injury. But the
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: fourth and and maybe fifth safety, if you keep five,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: guess what? Can you play special teams? Receivers the same thing.
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: Are you gonna keep five and six? Will five and
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: six better be able to play special teams? And I
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that is could pass
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Doly end up hurting. Uh. The guy that I was
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: so excited about, Pete Tyree Brady, because in the ballgame,
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: Tyree Brady didn't show a willingness to play special team.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: But this is number nineteen, the wide receiver. Yes, rookie
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: from Marshall. But Trey McBride ready to go on special
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: teams now, fourth year player from William and Mary. Well, yes,
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 1: when you watched him on special teams, Tray McBride was
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: ready to go now on special team. So you talk about,
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: you know, the excitement of where you put guys kind
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: of in the pecking order, at least how I do
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: in my mind, Well, that changes once you get to
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: see live special teams and guys start. Now you gotta
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: re rank them in trade. McBride right now has has
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: gone up a couple of notches. Pete ready to cut
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: the team tonight. I think Logs is ready. I'm always
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 1: ready to cut the team. You know funny because I
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: stand at practices JP for every team and I watch
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: these guys. There are twenty of them right now who
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: know they're not making the team. They do they have
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: no shot now, they don't. No, they don't know. Yeah, No,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: they don't know, Pete, they really don't. I mean, there's
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: a couple of guys that know that they're not making
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: this team, but the majority of the guys that are
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: here that are not going to make the team think
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: that they should make a team. Because if you didn't
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 1: have that belief would you be here? But you know
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: you're there, and once you get there, you realize you
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: don't belong there, That that's a boy. You're assuming that
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of ability to self evaluate there. Come on, pete, pete,
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: come on, three years old, twenty four years old? Were
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 1: you realistic about what you were? No? But if I
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: looked around, you're not realistic about what you are right now.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Huh you're not realistic about what you are right now? No.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm stubborn, but I know I would admitted it. No,
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: hell no, let's come back. We'll get into the quarterback room.
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  Speaker 1: are you Joe today? Eighty years old? It's a miracle,
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  Speaker 1: sixty one and he wears it well sexy as ever. Wow. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's a little far, but that's okay. Whatever. He's my
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  Speaker 1: We hope we worked together for quite a bit more time.
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  Speaker 1: A long time. That's right, So Psonado, we make it cut.
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  Speaker 1: Sixty one years young today, and he's responsible for all
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  Speaker 1: the sounds that you hear. Everything that you hear is uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's through something he's pushed or pulled up on the
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  Speaker 1: board or whatever it is. That's that's Joe fortune's true. Man,
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  Speaker 1: he makes it happy. That is right, So happy birthday.
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  Speaker 1: He makes he makes me look good, and all the
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  Speaker 1: the recorded stuff sound good, not look good. Well it's radio.
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  Speaker 1: Same thing, no, sound literally not the same thing. It
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  Speaker 1: is different. And the reason I say that is he
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  Speaker 1: is a masterful editor. Sound. I need editing every once
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  Speaker 1: in a while. I'm not like you, j P. I'm
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: not like I'm not gonna take take pony or one
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  Speaker 1: from it, far from as Pete knows all about that.
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  Speaker 1: You can. He can make you look good on radio.
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  Speaker 1: Sound good at radio, is not make you look good
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  Speaker 1: on TV Thos high definition, Pete, what are you trying
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  Speaker 1: to say? Pete got a face for radio that I'll
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  Speaker 1: take it. Hey, look, I'm still on TV right yeah,
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  Speaker 1: right now, and you're on the best part of TV
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: now is that JP does all my my pre television makeup. No,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: that is not accurate, because JP is so talented at makeup. Jack.
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  Speaker 1: I sit down in front of JP and he does
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: my makeup for TV. That's inaccurate. But I do need
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: a lot myself. I mean, now, you do a great
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: job with you need to fix that gray hair in
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 1: your beard. So happy birthday. Joe. That started our conversation
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: here p. Six one. You believe that, No, he Joe
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 1: looks good for sixty one. I'm gonna give a lot
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: of credit for that. Now he's like lost some weight lately,
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: you know, I like it. Yeah, you're gonna have about
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: thirty more years because you know how it's Italian guys
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 1: we lift forever. Hey, let's let's move to the quarterback room.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 1: We've heard from Nick Foles earlier in the program here,
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 1: and you get the feeling that he might not play
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: Thursday night. Um, the other night it was gardner Man
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: shoe through for what forty three yards in the game,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 1: Tanner Lee the first drive, was sacked twice and then
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: threw a pick six and Alex Magoo came in. It
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 1: wasn't so good, wasn't as good. It wasn't great either.
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: He threw an interception as well. Um, they're gonna get
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: reps obviously, Pete, you know where is this? I mean,
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: Mensho was their guy. I think right now as a backup,
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 1: it feels like, well, I mean, he can't evaluate him
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: off of that thing. The other night. I mean, my gosh,
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: they played he played the first team defense. He had
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: a bad offensive line in front of him. But his
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 1: arm didn't look very good the other night. Now you
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: know from watching him in practice when I was there
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: and then hearing things about him that was Yeah, he
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 1: doesn't have a great art, but that was worse than
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: normal I thought, And so that's a concern. But it's
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: too hard to evaluate him based on what we saw
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 1: last last Thursday. No way. Well, and he's a rookie
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 1: and it's the first action that he's ever had in
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 1: a preseason game. So I mean, look, you evaluate where
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: the Broncos were at with Drew lock and his first
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: preseason game, and it came away how that game totally
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 1: under impressed and so um, look at you give Minshew
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: a pass. That's the first game ever. But you also
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 1: evaluate certain things within that performance. You don't evaluate the
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 1: overall and come to a final conclusion. Some of the
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 1: things you evaluate. He got hit in the mouth after
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: he dropped the ball and then picked it up and
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 1: got stroked, I mean stroked. He comes back a couple
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: of plays later, he's got a unblocked defender bearing down
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: on him. He stands in there and he delivers a
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 1: nice throw. Positive, that's a positive thing. That's nice to see. Okay,
• 1:24:32
  Speaker 1: So he's got a little toughness about him. You like that.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 1: The other thing you evaluate a couple out routes didn't
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 1: seem to have the arm strength. Now is that arm
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: strength or is that footwork? Well, we go back and
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: you watched the film. You could have seen that maybe
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: the footwork could have been a little bit better, a
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: little bit cleaner. So is it arm or is it feet?
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: I don't know the answer that for sure, But if
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: it continues to show, it doesn't matter whether it's the
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: arm or the feet because the end result is not
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: good enough. So I want to see more out of him.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: I do know this, and I think feet were a problem.
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: And and so when you get a little jumpy and
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 1: you get pressured up the middle and you get hit
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 1: a bunch your feet kind of you got too bad habits.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 1: And I think that's what it was. That's why I
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: think it's so hard to evaluate him. Doesn't mean he's
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 1: always going to do that, but you mentioned it jet
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 1: first start line the whole deal. Sometimes those habits get
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 1: away from you. So I want to see how he
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: does kind of going forward, and I play him more
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• 1:25:40
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• 1:25:43
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  Speaker 1: So if but who played nobody played well, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if Doug Moron chooses to go the same route this week,
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 1: then you're gonna have a second team offense against a
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• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: Schwartz likes to bring a lot of pressure. Hello, Hello,
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  Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a that that will be a
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  Speaker 1: challenge for the backups of the Jaguars and Garniment she's
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  Speaker 1: got to be able to handle it. And you hope
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• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: the game because you had what was that eighteen guys
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 1: that were scratched. There's eighteen or sixteen. It's eighteen because
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 1: the decision and then it was like fourteen others due
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: to but enough changing because there were sixteen fourteen. Okay,
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 1: so let's say you still have sixteen on coaches decision ballpark. Well,
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: you hope that that fourteen number drops a little bit.
• 1:26:47
  Speaker 1: But right now the way it's looking with with some
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 1: of the players that are out of practice, uh, it's
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 1: not it's gonna be significant, But I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: it'll be fourteen, but it's still gonna be pretty good.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think of his arm though, Jeff, all Right,
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, Pete, I mean the end
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 1: result was that the arm the ball didn't get there
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  Speaker 1: fast enough or on target enough or with enough velocity velocity,
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  Speaker 1: So is that are like I said, is that armor?
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: Is that feat Well? I have a tendency to think
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: that it was arm strength. But if a player has
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  Speaker 1: good for work and an anticipation, he can be a
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  Speaker 1: very good quarterback in the National Football League if they
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  Speaker 1: have the mind to anticipate the thrones and the positive
• 1:27:30
  Speaker 1: thing that I'm hearing and I talked talked to a
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: couple of personnel guys while we were in Baltimore. Pete,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: he is Gardner Minshew, the highest scoring quarterback that they've
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 1: ever seen on the intelligence tests that they give it
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 1: the combine. That's a good song. Yeah, I mean he's
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: he's a smart kid. If you watched him play at
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 1: Washington State, I mean he knew where to go with
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 1: the football all the time. He's and it's not like
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: it's not like he was dinking and duncan now. I
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 1: mean he threw for more yards at the FBS level
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: per game than anybody in the nation last year. And
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 1: that offense is complicated at times. Give him, give him time,
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 1: and let's give him another chance. And you know, he's
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 1: a young player, you know, he's could that have been
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 1: a little camp fatigue too, I mean two weeks into camp,
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 1: every day you're throwing a bunch, you know, I mean
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 1: it could have been a lot of things. Could have
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: been first game jitters, could have been you know, you
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 1: name it, you know. So, like I said, it's it's
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 1: one game. Let's let's not overreact and come to final
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 1: conclusions on anything about this team or individual players until
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: we see more. And and it's always unfair to the
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: quarterback in that situation. It's hard. You can't really cannot
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 1: evaluate him. But Jeff, they didn't get the midfeet. They
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 1: got the midfield once. Yeah, they got to the forty
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  Speaker 1: nine of the Ravens one play and then got moved
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: back to the fifty the next that's correct. That's as
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: deep as they got. The punter had I think like
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: three hundred sixty yards punting Pete. The offense had a
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: hundred and twelve yards of total offense net and I
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: think they had a hundred nine yards and penalties. You
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 1: gotta figure they're gonna have at least one accident play
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 1: where you get at least their territory didn't happen. That
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: was that was a tough night, Pete didn't happen. Let's
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 1: come back. We'll get some Twitter questions. They're rolling in
• 1:29:18
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• 1:29:22
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• 1:29:26
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  Speaker 1: Thanks man, appreciate that. We'll get to those coming up.
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• 1:33:44
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  Speaker 1: So you're gonna make it the Pete Twitter questions. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks do Good. But who do you think shined the
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 1: most for the Jacksonville Jaguars? Pete? You want to start
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  Speaker 1: us on this one? Uh boy, No, it's not tough.
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  Speaker 1: C J revs He he had a really nice yes,
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: but Pete, he took a step back when he released
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  Speaker 1: a video from locker room. You know, so you gained
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  Speaker 1: all this traction and in our eyes and then you
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: do something like that, so dropped it back. I'll give
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: him that. Yes, I think he played well enough Pete
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: to say that, you know, you've got two young starting safeties.
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 1: Did he do enough to get in a conversation for
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: maybe vying for a starting job starting like over those two.
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: I'm just saying is that, you know, Dug Maron made
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: the point that he talked about because he was asked
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: the question about if you're not playing guys, how do
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: you determine who's gonna start? And he made a comment
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: that if somebody is playing and they play well enough
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: to catch your eye, then you have to open up
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: the conversation again about who the starter should be. Because
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 1: his was a name that was mentioned to me very
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 1: early in the process and as a kid that they
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: thought had a chance to push. I don't think he's
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: gonna push for a starting job now, but if somebody
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: struggles there midway through the season, you might be looking
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: at him as a guy. Anyway, it was nice to
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: see him play well and it also gives them some
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: some good depth. You hope that trend continues with this
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 1: level of play. And I will say that after watching
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: him in training camp. I don't know if anybody works
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 1: harder than he does in special special teams drills. He
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: is committed and he gets it. He understands that special
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: teams are important to him. Well, okay, but if you
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: had to make a change in one of those safeties,
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: isn't gonna be Harrison. Well let's see how they play Pete.
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, person's draft pick. And if you,
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 1: if you, I'm gonna do what I do to Tony,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: to you, Jeff putting on the spot. You're suggesting that
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 1: he's pushing for time. He's got to be pushing Wilson. Okay,
• 1:36:08
  Speaker 1: I think you could push either guy. I mean, look,
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 1: neither one of these guys has shown that their Ed Reid.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean one of them gets
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 1: more respect. Ronny Harrison gets more respect because he's a
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 1: draft pick. Jared Wilson it probably doesn't get hardly any
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: respect because he was an undrafted free agent rookie. But look,
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 1: he's a good football player. I mean good enough to
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 1: let two Shaun Gibson go alright, good enough to let
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 1: problem to a young safety nipping. I just say this,
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 1: Neither one of the safeties have have done it for
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 1: a season to where they've shown that they are a
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 1: stud safety. So if you have a young guy that's
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: showing himself that he's a good football player, looking and
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: what's wrong with having a little a little pressure put
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 1: on guys that are expected starters by the head coach saying,
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 1: you know that's c J. Reevers. You know he's playing
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: pretty well. Now, maybe he's one of those guys that
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: I talked about before that could be pushing first starting job.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: What do the other two guys go for safety? Uh,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: he's a special team or twenty two to Cody Davis,
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: veteran player seventh year, that's your special And that goes
• 1:37:15
  Speaker 1: to show you that that is a is a decision
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 1: made purely based on special teams. Well, he was signed
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: here based on specialty, absolutely, But I mean there's positions
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 1: that are that are like that more than just at safety.
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: The fourth safety spot is going to be a special
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 1: teams consideration. The five and six linebacking positions. If there
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 1: is a six, if you've got enough quality depth, there
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: are going to be special teams determined positions. McCray a,
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: a third team rush end is gonna be a special
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: team's decision tight end. When you get to the third
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: tight end and the fourth tight end, special teams decisions.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: You know, there's about five were six spots on your
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 1: roster that when you start to say, oh, who are
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: we going to keep at safety, cornerback, tight end, linebacker? Uh?
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 1: Am I missing any positions? Fullback maybe if you have
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: a fullback, but all those positions right there, there's decisions
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 1: at at those at those positions in backup roles that
• 1:38:19
  Speaker 1: are special teams determined first. That's it. So maybe five
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: or six positions out of your fifty three man roster
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 1: are positional players, but special teams quality level of play
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 1: is what determines who's going to get those six spots. Well, well,
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 1: I mean like the corners, we can almost decide who
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: they are right now. So the fifth cour if you
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: have a fifth corner, that guy's got to be a
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 1: key special teams player. Oh absolutely, you're you're so who
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: would that be? Right? Because I would think the at
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: five the fifth corner position. Yeah, well you got Jalen Ramsey,
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 1: A J boy A, Trey Herndon, d J Hey, and
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 1: there's your top four, right, So who's five? All right? Now? Uh? Interesting.
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: Quentin Meeks has been okay, not as exciting as he
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 1: was last year. He's in the conversation with Brian Borders.
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody has better stats than Brian
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: Borders in camp so far as far as touching the
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: ball and interception. So but there there again that we're
• 1:39:20
  Speaker 1: we're talking about defensive numbers. You have to evaluate that
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 1: spot from special teams. So is Brian Borders or Quintin
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: Meeks shown better on special teams? Good question, Well that's
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 1: how you answer. That's the answer to who is going
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 1: to be that next corner to make the roster. There
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: you go. Let's move on to our next question from
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 1: at Joey Jaguar. Is Cam practicing today just to settle
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 1: the injury panic that was starting to set in. Doug
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: was depressing everyone this weekend. But now they're saying Cam
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: and Oliver maybe back by week one. Seems too good
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 1: to be a coincidence. All I know is that I
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: got depressed Saturday after hearing dog I mean, did I
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 1: mean right? Was kind of like down about that as
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 1: anything I've ever heard and talk about the other day. Yeah,
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: it was two things. One, if you heard the tone,
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: it was kind of depressing. And when you when you
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 1: get that after you watched the game Thursday and then
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 1: you hear that, you're like, oh, oh no, right right
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 1: this week two of the preseason. Oh boy. But even
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: if you read the script and ignored the the tone
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 1: you went the transcript, Yeah, absolutely right. But they did
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 1: have some news to I mean, I'm just glad that
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: Doug bounced back. Yes, thank you for the rebound today.
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 1: So Cam's back out there. Josh Oliver had a little
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 1: something on the side today the tight end. That's good news.
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 1: Hopefully they're hoping he'll be back week one now. Doug
• 1:40:55
  Speaker 1: Maron said that today Williams Williams won't be back for
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 1: a week. When was he when he's ups to be back?
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: Quincy Williams are hoping a week one for him as well.
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: Can he This is something I wanna asked, Jeff, Jeff.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: Can he go the entire preseason without playing and walk
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: on the field and be a starter in week one?
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 1: Williams you're talking about can he? Yes? He can? If yeah,
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: I think he will, But but I don't I don't
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 1: think that that he's gonna start back to practice week
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 1: one and then play in the game, be ready to rock.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 1: I think he'll have maybe two weeks of practice to
• 1:41:33
  Speaker 1: get ready. I hope, I hope anyway, you know to
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: where he's working as working back week one. He's not
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 1: starting then, No, I mean he could. I mean he could,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 1: he could come back and start week one, but I
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 1: would think that you would like to have a couple
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: of weeks with a rookie. So how who starts there
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: then in week one? In your mind? Um? Uh nause good, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: he's he's athletic now, he is. He is very good
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 1: on opening day, Miles Jack at the mic Good at
• 1:42:02
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• 1:42:07
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• 1:42:11
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• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: by the way, Quincy Williams gets back. I mean, but yeah,
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: I mean it's a Nagy good by the way, pete. Um.
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: I'm watching him out there on the practice field and
• 1:42:26
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• 1:42:30
  Speaker 1: bouncing around, right. How many different teams has he been on?
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 1: Because it has it only been the Cults or has
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: he been on other teams? I'm trying to trying to remember.
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 1: But anyway, here's a guy that was not a priority
• 1:42:40
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• 1:42:43
  Speaker 1: one of those guys that you could have anybody could
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 1: have gotten off of the I don't want to say scrappy,
• 1:42:47
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• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: draft picks colts, all right, So he's been around the block.
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  Speaker 1: When you watch him in practice and you watch how
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: he moves, I mean he's he got great movement skills,
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: he's athletic. You go to yourself, why was has he
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 1: so why has he been so well traveled? Because I
• 1:43:12
  Speaker 1: mean he looks like he's a good football player. Now,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 1: I mean good football player, athletic, strong, fast, right, I
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: mean that once you look for in a linebacker. I
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 1: think he's a nice little fine I mean, and if
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 1: he can hold down to fort for however long is needed,
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 1: that's positive. Let's get one more question, and that came
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 1: in a little late as the show started today from
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: at I K triad. I guess that is how you
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 1: say that, are there any position groups that are looking
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 1: way better or way worse than you expected before camp started? Also,
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 1: it's a second question. This is there's a two question
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: question here. Okay. Also, how about a two part question
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 1: part question to this one question? Uh, do you have
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 1: you found any hidden gyms among the undrafted free agent
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: rookie class? All, it's the second part first, the hidden
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: gems that I identified a couple of weeks in Jeff's
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• 1:44:12
  Speaker 1: Happy are on Thursday? He's happy are on Thursday. I
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• 1:44:17
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, give me some nucks. There we go. Uh.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 1: Was Charles Jones the tight end, the undrafted guy from
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 1: Tulane and then the wide receiver Tyree Brady, And those
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 1: are my two guys. Now. I still feel really good
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: about Charles Jones, even though he's not practicing, because for
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: a young drundrafted player, for the team to continue to
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 1: have confidence in you and continue to gain more confidence
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: in you, you need to be what's the word, JP,
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 1: We've heard it a million times availability, You need to
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: be available. Well, right now he's not, but I still
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 1: believe he's pretty good. He had a good game. He
• 1:44:55
  Speaker 1: was a little bit overwhelmed at the beginning part of
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 1: the game against some of the defensive ends of the Ravens,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: got overpowered a little bit, but then he settled down
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 1: and did a really good job, finished some really nice blocks.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: In fact, almost drew a personal foul from who pushed
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 1: him after a play because now Charles was blocking him
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 1: down the field. Tyree Brady, on the other hand, Pete,
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  Speaker 1: I had identified him because there were times in practice
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 1: that I confused Brady with Chris Conley. I was like, man,
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 1: that was a nice catch by Conley, and I look
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: and I go, no, that's the nuts. That's a nine.
• 1:45:32
  Speaker 1: It's a one nine, not a one eight. Similar build, Yeah,
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: I thought the same size, guys, And uh so, I
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: mean he looked it did some things. But then in
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: the game, and here's the thing that doesn't help in
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: your evaluation process for any wide receiver, and that's the
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 1: performance of the offensive line and the quarterback play in
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 1: the ball game, which wasn't great. But Tyree Brady on
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 1: special teams, that's where I'm looking at right, because we're
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 1: talking about one of those wide receivers that if he's
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: gonna find a way to make the team, he's got
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 1: to do it on special teams. I was underimpressed with
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: his level of play on special teams. But how about
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 1: a position group either better or worse than you expected
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: before camp. I think all of them out what I expected.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 1: I think that I think the receivers are better than
• 1:46:20
  Speaker 1: I expected. Oh you don't agree, lugs H Well, I don't.
• 1:46:25
  Speaker 1: I don't want to say I disagree. I think I
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 1: think I gotta see more evidence to feel that way.
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 1: I think for a big year, I think Shark is
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: taking some steps forward now. I ustill got to do
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 1: it when it counts, And I think Connoy has been
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: a nice addition. Some drops every now and again, though,
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: that's one thing better than what the perception is up
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: in my FA. And they're connecting on some deep balls.
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 1: They had another couple ones today that JP great. You
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: bring up a great point, Pete Uh, because the deep
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: balls that they are connecting on not only in their
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 1: own practice with against each other, and also in the
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 1: Ravens practices. There were many deep balls. Now if you
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 1: look at the Jaguars Wide Receiving Corps DJ chart, Legitimate
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: deep threat UH, Chris Conley legitimate deep threat, Keeling Cole
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: Legitimate deep threaten d D Westbrook. I wouldn't say he's
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 1: a deep threat, but out of those four guys, three
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 1: of them are legitimate guys that can go over the
• 1:47:28
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• 1:47:34
  Speaker 1: learned that pretty quickly multiple times. And the Jaguars practice
• 1:47:39
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• 1:47:43
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• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: I think that the Jaguars fans, if that's the one
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: trait that I think is a little bit different out
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 1: of what we've seen in the past with the Jaguars offense.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 1: They are more than willing to throw the ball deep
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: with offensive coordinator John D. Felippo, let's come back. We'll
• 1:48:08
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• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: in Dallas, Pete that apparently is kind of not really breaking.
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 1: There's nothing happening over the last hour or so, thirty
• 1:48:19
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• 1:48:22
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  Speaker 1: where Dak Prescott apparently, well allegedly is turning down thirty
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  Speaker 1: million a year because he wants forty million a year. Pete,
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  Speaker 1: is this true? And is he nuts? Yeah, it's true
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  Speaker 1: and he's nuts, yes, and yes, I mean bottom line, look,
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  Speaker 1: you know what happens with the quarterbacks, and it's the
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  Speaker 1: next guy up once the biggest deal and doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: he should get it. Uh, if somebody, if the Dallas
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  Speaker 1: Cowboys are offering Dak Prescott thirty million dollars a year,
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  Speaker 1: he should race up there and take it, period, end
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  Speaker 1: of story. Uh. He's not that good. He's a good,
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  Speaker 1: serviceable quarterback. He's not the guy's going to carry that
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: franchise if need be. So he's crazy. If he turns
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 1: down thirty million dollars, You're dead on the money. Alright, Pete.
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  Speaker 1: I would totally agree with you, but I don't want
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 1: to make sure that people understand that he turned down
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: thirty million a year an extension. It doesn't. It doesn't.
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  Speaker 1: It's not like he is going to have his his
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 1: existing contract ripped up and then he's gonna start earning
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 1: thirty million a year starting right now. So that's a
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 1: little different at money. Elliott is a better player at
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 1: his position than Doc is at his dock is more
• 1:53:43
  Speaker 1: valuable to that team. I don't care what anybody says.
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd go there. I mean,
• 1:53:54
  Speaker 1: I mean the running backs are replaceable, yes, but are
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 1: you eating Eminem's Either way, I'm hearing crunching. Would you
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 1: rather my bag? Is open over. Would you rather play
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: back quarterback Cooper Rush and Zeke Elliott or the backup
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 1: running back and Dak Prescott. I'd rather play the backup
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: running back in Dak Prescott. But tell mean, well, you
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 1: know that might be debatable now because the backup running
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 1: back with the Dallas Cowboys is not that good feet.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 1: It's Tony Pollard. He's a young Rookie's well, I mean,
• 1:54:31
  Speaker 1: now he's a rookie. I mean the one that they
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 1: had last year. The quarterbacks more valuable. Looking back on it,
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 1: they probably should have drafted Jayla Ramsey. Right, That's what
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 1: we said right at the draft. I can I can
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 1: tell you this, Zeke Elliott for that organization has been
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 1: exactly what they've needed for for where they were at
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 1: with their quarterback and where they were at as an offense.
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  Speaker 1: That was a better fit for them as a team
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 1: than Jay and Ramsey would have been. When he's been available,
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 1: He's been suspended a bunch, Right, what's happen? Oh, you
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 1: gotta be careful with the running back. I don't think
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 1: there's any doubt about that. And he's got what he's
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 1: got how many years left on his contract? He's got two, right,
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 1: I mean two more. He's got one this year under contract,
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: and then he's got an option year which they picked up,
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: and he's gotten the next year. So he's got two.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 1: He's got too. He's crazy, he's getting a new deal. Well,
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't blame him for trying, because I
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 1: can tell you this is and let me ask you
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: this question, Pete. Is he not worth more than what
• 1:55:36
  Speaker 1: he's getting right now? About? Yea, yeah. So do you
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 1: blame him for withholding his services right now and holding now? No?
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 1: Absolutely not. Especially Gordon is worth more than he's getting
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 1: right now. But you've gotta be careful with those deal.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 1: They can look at Todd Gurley's deal and blame him
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: because the running back market has gone off the edge
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 1: because of Todd Gurley. Let's move to Oakland. Antonio Brown's
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 1: saga first is the frost bitten feet. Now now he's
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 1: threatening to not play anymore if he can't use his
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 1: old muscle helmet, and the arbitrator has come down and
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 1: said that he cannot use the old helmet. This is
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 1: a twelve year old shoot air advantage helmet. H Brown
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: believed to be the only player resisting the new rule.
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 1: I think there were thirty players are so grandfather did
• 1:56:21
  Speaker 1: last year. Now there's a bunch of guys that have
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: had to change helmets, Tom Brady including in that group.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 1: But here's the deal, Antonio Brown is better than Days
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: of our lives. I can tell you that this is
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: This is entertainment. I mean, this guy, he's a nut job,
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 1: he really is. And and and look they're trying to
• 1:56:45
  Speaker 1: make it safer for you, your knucklehead. Take the new helmet.
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: It's all that's incredible, but you can't see the football. Pete.
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 1: Come on, man, you're telling me, okay. And here's the thing, Pete,
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 1: It's not like the NFL is saying, here's your new helmet.
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: You only can have one. It's the only one we
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 1: have available. There's a they have like twelve helmets to
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 1: choose from, and every one of them and maybe you
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 1: might be right, it might be more than twelve. But
• 1:57:13
  Speaker 1: there is a variety of helmets for him to choose from,
• 1:57:17
  Speaker 1: and ones that are proven proven that they're lighter, better,
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 1: far as more aerodynamic, more uh air cooling, and are
• 1:57:29
  Speaker 1: safer most importantly for you than the helmet that you
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 1: were wearing. What did you wear? Did you wear Rydel
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 1: when you came into the league. I wore Riddell when
• 1:57:38
  Speaker 1: I came in the league, because that was really your
• 1:57:40
  Speaker 1: only option was RDEL and and I don't think we
• 1:57:43
  Speaker 1: had many choices. We had a couple of options with
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: did you bring the same helmet? Did I wear the
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: same helmet you're after year? Hell no, I'm not gonna
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 1: wear the same helmet because after you beat heads with
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 1: somebody for an entire year, do you think that that's
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: gonna be safe for me to wear it the next
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 1: year as it would be if I got everything. No,
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. I don't understand the whole he's
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 1: at You're right, he's better than days of our lives.
• 1:58:11
  Speaker 1: It is. It's entertaining, though, I mean, I mean, you
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 1: gotta love it from that aspect. Here's the disappointing thing.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 1: This was a great opportunity for HBO, right and Hard Knocks,
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 1: and Jon Gruden is ruining it by cuttinging, cutting all
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: this stuff on the editing floor. I mean, from the
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: from the cryogenically frozen foot to the helmet to the
• 1:58:35
  Speaker 1: non participation in practice, and they're cutting that out of
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: Hard Knocks. This could be the best hard knocks ever
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 1: and episode I thought disappointing. All right, we've made it
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: through another program, Jaguars Happy Hour, Pete, well done with logs,
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 1: so easy to talk and be, no yelling and screaming
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: and just good football conversation. Nation. It's a rarity on
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 1: this program considering who else is usually on the show.
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 1: Don't get used to it, because Tony Maselli will be
• 1:59:07
  Speaker 1: back next week for Jaguars Half Here Lougs, thanks so much, man,
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: good to see it. Thank you. By the way, I'll
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• 1:59:23
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