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F1 2025 | Hungarian GP Recap & Summer Break Preview - Fast Laps with the Boys · Banter with the Boys

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it's laced up let's go it's time for banter with
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the boys yo yo welcome back to banter with the
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boys fast apps that was so ugly dude you should
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have seen it in person it was even worse mike's
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back this week For the hungry recap and some
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summer break action. Hello, I'm here. Hungry.
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Feeling more aerodynamic. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah.
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You're back from perishing last week because
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Joe said you perished. I did. Which is ridiculous.
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What? I liked your comment, by the way, about
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I was doing my best Carlos Sainz impression.
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That actively made me laugh out loud. Yes. Was
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it a painful laugh? No. Oh, good. That's good.
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We're glad that laughing doesn't hurt you, only
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sneezing. I was telling my mom, too, when we
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were sitting in the emergency room, I was like,
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am I going to make it to F1 tonight? She's like,
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is that really your concern right now? Of course
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it's the number one concern. Unbelievable. Wearing
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the Nasson hat, no less. They had a great weekend.
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They did. We're going to talk about it. Yeah,
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I mean, just because you said emergency room,
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you had your appendix removed. Congratulations.
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Thank you. Hence, I'm more aerodynamic. Carlos,
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I'm suppression. Oh, no. do we congratulate on
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i am i mean congrats that it went well yeah yeah
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yeah all right hey you're here now right yeah
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Thank you. Joe's here. He has an appendix. I
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still have my appendix. Kev, what's up? No, I'm
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just kidding. That was crazy. Everybody just
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thinks I hate Joe, and that's just not true.
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Well, I think we're going to really up the stakes
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next year and just like, you just don't even
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introduce me anymore. You just start talking
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about practice or whatever. New hat for you.
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New hat. Yeah, I was at the... I was at Road
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America for the IMSA sports car weekend. How
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was that? It was fun. Worth the road trip out
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there? We stay from Thursday to Sunday, and by
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Saturday, I'm raced out, and I'm ready to go
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home. But Sunday was actually fun because it
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was just pure racing. There was no practice.
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There was no shenanigans. That was nice. We had
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four races to watch, so that was kind of cool.
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Now, you guys said you rent a golf cart, right?
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We do. And that makes a huge difference. Oh,
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my God. Our first year, we walked, and that was
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a nightmare. And then the second year, it was
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just me and my buddy. It was just two of us.
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We rented the golf cart, and it was a game changer.
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everything yeah that's awesome okay yeah no we
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were like oh like i mean we hit every single
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spot like around the track because it was you
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know minutes away yeah yeah it's accessible now
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yeah yeah so it was a good time rather than exactly
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30 minutes exactly it was a good time i did i
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did have a lot of racing because i still tried
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to watch quali and then the race it's a lot of
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racing yeah i watched i watched the f1 race in
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between The second to last race of the day on
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Sunday and the main race, the sports car race.
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I don't think you missed too much, but every
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time I say that, we somehow nitpick all these
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little things and we make it a thing. I watched
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it all. I just don't have crazy notes, so I might
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be leaning on you two a little bit more. I'm
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going to probably go off on McLaren, but you
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guys have to cover everything else. That's fine.
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Go off on McLaren. Whatever. Anyway, again, Kev's
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here. He gets two shout -outs. Kev still has
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his appendix. Smelty also has his appendix. This
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is the reason why I'm the fastest here at this
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table. Yes. Expect him to now be flying. I'm
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already flying. All right. Wait, you got something
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else? No. Oh, you look like you're about to say
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something about appendixes. I was going to say
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he's flying. Got it. Kev, let's head into our
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not Belgian recap. I didn't change it. The Hungaroring
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recap. While we were gone, Mike, you had something
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to say about Joseph? No. I don't think I want
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to say it anymore. No, we were in the intermission.
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I was just saying I didn't get a chance to say
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it, but I liked his hat, too. It's a good hat.
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I like that hat. He thought about it, though.
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He wasn't going to say it on air. I don't feel
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comfortable saying this. I don't like being nice
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to him. I don't feel comfortable saying this.
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Can we cut that out in post? That's so funny.
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Okay, mark it. Yeah, we'll cut it out. Don't
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worry. yeah no uh so quality practice yada yada
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uh i mean for me i'm sorry go for it no no please
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please please alpine sucks that's it alpine is
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not doing very well right now unfortunately we'll
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get into them don't worry about it rubbish i
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had a i had an i realized something earlier um
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alpine is the only team this year in the bottom
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five teams who hasn't touched sixth place Like
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above? Like six or above? No, like finish six.
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This season. They haven't been in six plays at
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all this season. No, no, no. As a constructor.
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Oh. In a Grand Prix, they haven't finished 6th
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or better as a constructor. So far, every other
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team has at some point been in 6th for the constructors.
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This season. This season. Alpine has just been
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pulling up the rear. They're doing a really stand
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-up job at Caboose right now. It's looking pretty
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good. That's rough. They still have points on
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the board. They just need a good race and they're
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ahead of... possible it's crazy that they are
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in last but still have 20 points yep i think
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that's that like 20 points would have put them
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in like eighth last year right i can't at this
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point in the season i can't remember i know you're
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right i think you're right i think i'm gonna
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i'm gonna double check right now i'm gonna go
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to 2024 i have constructors pulled up um it would
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have put them in ninth Yes. It would have put
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them in ninth because Mercedes or Williams had
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17 points last season. So it would have put them
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in ninth. Still, either way, not competing with
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the rest of the field. But crazy. But crazy nonetheless.
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Crazier. That's all I really had for practice
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anyway. Leclerc getting pole. Was that something
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we had on our bingo cards? No, not at all. It
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was like just like a crazy, really good lap out
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of nowhere. Maybe you guys didn't. this doesn't
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age well considering that he didn't finish on
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the podium i knew he was gonna have a good weekend
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and i was really glad at first when i heard that
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you guys didn't put him on your podium so i was
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like yes and then it didn't matter thinking that
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he was slick i thought i was but after pole i
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bet yeah it looked pretty good it looked pretty
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good and the start wasn't horrible but it quickly
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got out of hand for him for the player it was
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such a bummer um So, yeah, that's just not without
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further ado. Let's just dive into it here. Should
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we start? Yeah, we're going to start from last
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to first. Haas? Alpine. Gasly finished. Oh, yeah,
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you're right. It is Haas, technically. Biermann
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retiring and Ocon finishing P16. Yeah. What do
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you got on Haas? Rough weekend. Rough weekend.
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It happens. Actually, Ocon had some pace for
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a while and then just kind of fell back. I think
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he lost out in strategy. It is what it is. Not
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their best track. They came into this track knowing
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that they weren't going to do super well. With
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how competitive all the bottom teams are, you're
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going to have good weekends. You're going to
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have bad ones. I've got a question for you. I
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have an answer for you. You're typically the
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guy that brings news on if teams are done upgrading
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or if they have future upgrades. Do you know
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where Haas is at with that? I've heard no news.
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I tend to not hear anything about Haas because
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people don't talk about them. Fair enough. It's
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really hard for me to find news on Haas. They
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just don't get a lot of news time. I think they're
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actively still upgrading, last I heard. I think
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they've still got some more small teams. upgrades
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coming i kind of hope they stop and just focus
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on next year but um c 'est la vie c 'est la vie
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they may need the money they may not have a choice
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but to keep upgrading i think at toyota uh obviously
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beerman retiring uh said came out some i didn't
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find exactly what it was but it came out of some
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quote mechanical problem yep he came out and
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said i was just surviving And then I put something
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stupid in here that says, but was he even driving
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to surviving, though? That's dumb. That's so
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dumb. He had rear floor damage. Rear floor damage.
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Okay. How did you? What did you? I literally
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just typed, why did Bearman retire in Hungary?
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I swear that's what I did. Why is my AI not as
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smart as your AI? It's definitely not the same
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one. That's for sure. The VF25 sustained rear
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floor damage. Impossible. I feel like if I remember
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correctly, too, at the start, he was actually
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like. He was going really fast, too, wasn't he?
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I thought he started pretty decent. Oh, Ollie?
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Yeah, I thought he had a decent start to the
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race. I don't remember offhand. And then he started
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falling back because he was having problems with
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his floor, and then they decided to retire him.
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Don't know. Doesn't matter. He DNF'd. Ha sucks.
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He had a good opportunity because he was in 10th
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when he pit. and he was on fresher tires than
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everyone else. He ended up back in 17th after
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his pit. He had the tires to get ahead. Granted,
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Verstappen had really bad trouble with traffic.
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He might have also had bad trouble with traffic,
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but we just wouldn't know because of the floor
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damage. Yeah, that's rough. Yeah, it is what
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it is. Alpine. Gasly. I'm sorry. Colpinto first,
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P18, Gasly P19. I looked up the pronunciation
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of this in French before the show, and I'm going
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to butcher it. It's like, It means, what, trash,
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rubbish. So I figured that it was worth it for
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me to look that up. That's why I'm not wearing
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my Alpine hat today. I believe in French we call
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that performance merde. Awesome. All I said here
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is, oh, Franco got into Q2. Whatever. I mean,
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that's pretty much, if there's any shining light,
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I don't even consider that a shining light. Hence
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why I'm wearing a NASCAR hat today. rather than
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an Alpine hat. We need to get you a better hat,
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buddy. I need to just order my Mercedes hat.
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Anyway, let's see here. Hmm. Who was in P17?
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Oh, wow. We're talking about Red Bull. The Max
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Bulls. The Max Bulls. Max Verstappen, P9, Yuki,
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P17. Is this you, Joe, that wrote? the king is
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dead long live the king yeah it's such a bad
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go of it i mean he got it's not even his fault
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either talk about him soon but he got no we can
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talk about him now we got overtaken by lawson
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i mean at some point i think it was all during
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the pit stop strategy but he just had he just
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couldn't get through the traffic when he pit
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and he complained about it and that was like
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all i heard from him the entire race and he just
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stayed back did not get a lot of screen time
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No, he really didn't. Other than some of his
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very aggressive passes, one of which was on Hamilton,
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which was pretty gnarly. Again, you've got to
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have big clunas for the pass he was trying to
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do. He was passing, you know? I'm 50 -50 on the
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Hamilton one, though. What do you think about
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that? Because it seemed like he pushed Hamilton
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real wide and pushed him straight off the track.
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It was really hard to see. It was really hard
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to catch if it was anything at all. The angle
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they kept showing, I could not tell if any contact
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was made. It doesn't look like it. Hamilton didn't
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really say anything about it. Hamilton didn't
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really say anything. The stewards decided to
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not do anything about it. In post -race interviews,
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they asked Max about it. Max basically said...
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I didn't think there was anything wrong with
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it. I mean, yeah, I kind of dived it, but, you
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know, that's just racing. He went for it, and
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it held on. Nothing came of it. He ran off the
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road, but that's just racing. That's how it goes
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sometimes. And then... They asked Lewis Hamilton
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about it, too, and Lewis goes, oh, I'm going
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to be real. I totally forgot that happened. But
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he had a rough day. Clearly, the drivers were
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completely non -miffed about it. Max didn't care.
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Max was like, that's just racing, and Lewis didn't
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care because Lewis was like, hey, I was more
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focused on everything else that was happening.
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That was just one of many things. It could have
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very easily just been Max, just rather Lewis
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just being like, my race is not with him. I'm
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just going to go wide so I don't end both of
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our races. Which could be, and maybe it just
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looked more. More dramatic than it was, but there's
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another pass. I thought it was another Ferrari,
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but I can't remember who else it was on, but
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Max was just sending it. I mean, just aggressive
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drive, trying to do what he can, still somehow
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fighting to stay in the points. I mean, when's
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the last time we've seen him end further back
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than he started? Oh, this is weird. P9 is really
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weird to see the king. I think they said this
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is his worst finish since... I believe it. I
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don't care when. Was it 2017? Wow, that would
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actually be a really long time. His worst finish?
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His worst finish. Outside of not finishing. Outside
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of not finishing, right, because that's not a
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finish. That's not a finish, right. That's crazy.
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Actually, no, that's a lie. He finished outside
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of the points in an earlier race this season,
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didn't he? He DNF'd in Austria. Right? No, this
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is 2020. Yeah, 2025, he DNF'd in Austria. I'm
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not even trying to remember right now. He got
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10th in Spain. Yeah, he got 10th in Spain, so
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he didn't do well in Spain or Austria. Yeah,
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so either way, bad finish. Feels bad. Feels bad.
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Feels bad. Well, he's got stuff to look forward
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to coming out of summer. Just the first track,
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I guess. But anyway, Williams signs finishing
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P14, Albon, Albin. We had a debate about that
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real quick. It lasted about 10 seconds last week.
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Is it Albon or Albin? It's Albon. Albon. Okay.
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Williams, not in points. Didn't look awesome.
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Yeah, Albon started eighth, but just could not.
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Oh, wait, no. Did he start eighth? I don't think
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so. I'm looking at the wrong thing. I have so
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many tabs open. I apologize. No, it's okay. It's
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good for your RAM. I mean, I have a lot of it,
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so it doesn't matter. Okay. Make sure to download
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one. You don't even know. Qualifying, both of
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them. Signs in 13th. and albon in 20th so yeah
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but neither of them i mean they made albon gain
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positions right signs didn't um signs is still
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kind of struggling in the williams unfortunately
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but albon has shown promise he just needs to
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he was i mean he was i mean there must have been
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an issue in his qualifying lap he was a tenth
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and a half off the pace of hulkenberg and in
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qualifying so you know there was something going
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on there Just a bad weekend for him. I think
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he's consistently getting pretty into Q2, Q3,
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and then getting low points most of the races.
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I would agree. I'm chalking it to a bad weekend
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for Albon, and then Sainz is just kind of stuck.
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What is going on with Sainz? I think it's the
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same thing that's going on with Lewis. It's just
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growing pain. Really, really, really bad growing
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pain. And I think, I hope they both get better
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with new regs. I think Lewis might get worse,
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unfortunately. Really? Just a gut feeling? He
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did really badly with these ones. I don't have
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any good proof to say he'll do really good with
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the new ones. Crazy talk. Does he consider retirement
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at the end of this season? I bet he's considering
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it right now. Just the mindset that he was in
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at the end of the race. It was rough. Let me
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rephrase. I don't think he's seriously considering
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retirement right now. I'm sure it was just like,
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I might as well retire. We're seeing the decline.
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Yeah, maybe a little bit. More than maybe just
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the car. Let's hope we're wrong. I think we see
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him finish out next season, for sure. Oh, yeah.
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Like, no doubt, because he's planning. He wants
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Ferrari to focus on next season. He wants them
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to just forego this season and focus on next
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season so that they can have a championship -winning
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car next season. And then... If next season doesn't
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turn out very good, then I think we see him drive
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one more season. And if that season also is a
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struggle, then that will be the season. Then
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he drives one more season. No. I think 2027 is
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potentially his last season. Okay. Fair enough.
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And if he does win championship next season,
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I think he pulls a Sebastian Vettel and just
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goes, thanks, guys. I'm out. I'll take my number
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eight and leave. Maybe, yeah. That's his last
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goal, right? He just wants to get that one more.
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Yeah. I think it's good that he's realizing that
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it's not the car, it's him, because, I mean,
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he was right. Leclerc was fighting for the win
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during some of that race, and Hamilton was nowhere
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near so dominant. Let's talk about Ferrari real
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quick, since we're already on him. Yeah, I mean,
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we've already touched on Hamilton a little bit.
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Just some quotes of his, feels useless and glad
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it's over, shows that he's just really struggling
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in the Ferrari car at the moment. But, yeah,
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I mean, LeClaire coming out with that pull. Again,
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I thought, if I remember correctly, he thought
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he had a decent start, but it just quickly got
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away from him. And, unfortunately, when, I don't
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remember if it was, I think it was Oscar. Or,
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no, it was George. I mean, the late battle between
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George and Charles was actually kind of fun to
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watch. And Charles was fighting for his life.
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Literally fighting for his life. He couldn't
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do anything more. And that's the sad part, and
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that's where we kind of seen him have his Not
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a meltdown, right, but a little bit of a good
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calm segment, you know, just kind of freaking
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out a little bit, telling him to trust him more
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and all this and that. But, you know, at the
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end of the day, I think today actually I saw
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that he kind of took out. He tried to take all
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that back. He was like, I was just frustrated
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type of deal and didn't really want to say all
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that. But obviously we've seen with many drivers
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when you're in the heat of the moment, things
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will come out. Well, on top of it, too, he was
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under the impression that. uh a setup option
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wasn't they didn't listen to him in a setup option
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and that's why he was so heated when in reality
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there was something wrong with the car and so
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that's why his performance fell off super hard
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after that first pit and so because of that uh
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he was misinterpreting what was wrong with the
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car and he came out even directly after the race
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and post race interviews and was like yep I was
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wrong. He did say that post -race. I didn't even
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see that. He was basically like, I was wrong.
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I thought that they didn't listen to me in the
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change that I wanted. Come to find out there
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was just something fundamentally wrong with the
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car today. Not even for the whole day. Just after
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lap 40. I didn't look up anything. I just read
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up. Apparently, they're guessing chassis issues.
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There hasn't been anything concrete yet. So that
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was it. And he pretty much came out right afterwards
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like, yep, that's on me. So it's a bummer. It
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was a really good showing from him, though. Charles
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is so good. He had a good weekend for the most
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part. Let's see here. Who we got? Who we got?
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Who we got? Kick Sauber. We do. Kick fan. We
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do. Nico Hulkenberg and Gabriel Bortoletto. Nico
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in 13th and Gabby in 6th. It's crazy. Bortoletto
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in sixth was not on my bingo card. He qualified
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seventh, didn't he? I think that's right. I think
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he qualified seventh and went up to sixth. Overtaking
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Max. Getting ahead of Max. Well, actually, he
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was ahead of Max to begin with. Yeah, so Nico
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Halkenberg, bad drive. It happens. Rough track.
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He just didn't perform. It is what it is. He'll
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move past it. I mean, he started 19th. I mean,
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true. Yeah, he did make a lot of positions. Nico's
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still showing. And a track that clearly was not
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super easy to overtake on. So, like, Nico's still
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showing that his race craft is much better than
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his qualifying pace. Bortoletto had a really
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good weekend, too. He had really good free practices,
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too. I mean, he was top ten the whole—all three,
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I think. All weekend, yeah. I'm pretty sure.
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He was dominant all weekend. He was right next
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to Alonzo all freaking weekend, actually, pretty
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much, which is funny. Yeah, it was super, super
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crazy good weekend. And now a lot of people are
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coming out and starting to notice Bortoletto
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and are talking about him, which is really exciting
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for me because he was a rookie that I was really
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looking forward to. He was probably my most anticipated
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rookie. for performance and whatnot. He's not
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my favorite rookie of the year right now, but...
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He's at least starting to put that idea in your
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brain, though, the way he's driving as of late.
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He's starting to show that that faith I put in
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him at the beginning of the season was not unfounded.
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I was expecting these kind of performances when
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they moved to Audi. I was expecting to see him
21:20
maybe get a sixth here or there once they moved
21:22
to Audi, but him doing it in the kicks over is
21:25
crazy. I can't wait to see that first Audi livery.
21:28
I'm so excited. You have no clue how excited
21:30
I am. What do you want it to look like? Silver
21:33
and red. Silver and red. Nice. That is very Audi
21:36
coding. Yeah, I think it's going to be red. It's
21:41
got to have red. It's got to have red, which
21:43
sucks because that means that we're going to
21:45
have three red cars on the grid again. I was
21:47
talking about it this weekend with some friends.
21:49
I mean, Audi has a lot of really good colors,
21:52
but their mock -up when they entered, it was
21:55
like a red car, I think. Red and silver, like
21:57
you said. So I'm guessing it's probably going
21:59
to be reddish of some sort. I'm assuming so as
22:02
well. They have a really good yellow, though.
22:03
They have a really good green. Yeah, they have
22:05
a good blue. It'd be cool if they kept the green.
22:07
I'd be happy with that. That would be cool. Keep
22:09
the light kick green. It'd be probably a little
22:12
darker, probably closer to Aston. I'm cool with
22:15
that. I like green. I prefer green to red. Next.
22:20
uh racing bulls i suppose because we talked about
22:22
ferrari so uh joe you want to talk about liam
22:25
i don't know there's much to talk about i think
22:27
he just like his strategy was just better i mean
22:29
he's his buddy uh i mean i'm sorry yeah lawson
22:35
i mean yeah he just he didn't he didn't do anything
22:36
wrong and so he got a good place right i think
22:39
that's it second race in a row he got p8 Yeah,
22:42
I think so. I think so. For all the hate he's
22:46
gotten on Banter with the boys, he must be an
22:48
avid listener. So it's just like turning it around,
22:51
shoving it back in our face. Yeah, I guess so.
22:53
Hadjar, you know, quality in the top 10, couldn't
22:56
quite keep it in points, though. And he had a
22:59
really bad race last weekend. Hopefully you can
23:02
kind of get that back together because, you know,
23:04
his name could be in the ring for quote unquote
23:06
rookie of the year with guys like Antonelli,
23:09
Bierman, you know, all of them. Who knows? But
23:11
at this point, who knows? There's nine more,
23:13
10 more races left. Excuse me. Realistically,
23:15
this is what we should be seeing from racing
23:18
bulls. They're like, no, for sure. Like, you
23:21
know, not quite, not quite rookie, but like half
23:25
rookie driver getting very low points and their
23:27
rookie driver getting close. Like, yeah, that's
23:29
great. That's, that's, that's what that. It's
23:31
what your standard should be. Yeah, 100%. 100%.
23:35
Yeah, I would say Lawson's, he's finally making
23:38
up for some lost points. Some lost times, yeah.
23:41
I will give... lawson the only flower that apparently
23:45
um a petal of a flower a petal of a flower that
23:48
when he came into the v -carb it all happened
23:50
really fast right they did it like overnight
23:53
just yuki and liam swap seats right and so because
23:56
that that meant that neither driver was able
23:58
to really do much adjusting their cars into getting
24:02
a car into a comfortable place for them and now
24:04
v -carb has had some time to change their cars
24:07
and apparently um A couple races ago, they found
24:11
a really good suspension setup for Liam that
24:14
had him very comfortable in the car. So they
24:16
put that new suspension in this car. And ever
24:19
since they put that in, he's been driving well.
24:22
Okay. That's interesting. That's good. So it
24:24
could have literally or literally have just been
24:27
the fact his poor performances could have been
24:29
just. The car wasn't made for him, and now they're
24:32
making it for him. So we might see some more
24:34
performances like this. Man, it's crazy what
24:36
keeping a driver in a seat long enough can do.
24:40
Yeah, wild. I think we should swap out Liam Lawson
24:44
for Arvid Lindblad. Yeah, I think we should probably
24:51
swap out Gasly for Duane. Just put him in. Give
24:56
him a shot. Might as well. Yeah, you're just,
25:00
like, benching Gasly for the rest of the season
25:02
type of deal. You don't want him to get injured.
25:04
You're saving him for next season. Yeah, you're
25:06
saving him for next season. We're conserving
25:08
him to make sure he doesn't get hurt. It's so
25:09
funny. Let's see. Yeah, Mercedes, okay. Decent
25:15
weekend recovery I put here for Antonelli after
25:18
kind of a disappointing quali, but him and George
25:20
had pretty good practices all weekend, so that
25:24
quali is just disappointing, and then Antonelli
25:26
trying to fight to get in the points. It's just...
25:28
I don't know. But I guess it's okay, you know,
25:31
for him, considering last weekend was bad, really
25:34
bad. So good little bounce back for him and George.
25:39
George grabbing another podium and able to pass
25:43
Charles. I mean, the second time didn't look
25:46
very difficult. Yeah, Charles gave it to him
25:48
a little bit. Actually, Charles gave it to him
25:50
pretty good. A lot of it. Maybe a little too
25:53
much. Yeah, that's right. He kind of. Tapped
25:55
him a little bit. I don't know. A little Robbins
25:57
racing action. Good thing I wore my NASCAR hat.
26:01
George Russell. I mean, I can't be mad about
26:06
that for Mercedes, I think. After last weekend.
26:08
It's better than last weekend. That's all you
26:10
can do. You're heading into summer now. Regroup.
26:13
What are we looking at, constructors? You don't
26:15
happen to have that. I do. Thank God, both of
26:18
you. Mercedes is in third with 236 points. Ferrari,
26:22
24 points behind Ferrari. Correct. I mean, that's
26:29
attainable with a floundering Lewis right now.
26:32
I want to point out, too, I felt really good
26:35
about this. I went and checked what I recommended
26:38
for my F1 standings. Oh, my God. Yeah. And my
26:42
prediction was McLaren to Ferrari to Mercedes
26:45
to Red Bull. And wouldn't you guess how it is
26:47
set up right now? Which is crazy. Your prediction
26:50
was McLaren to Ferrari to Mercedes to Red Bull?
26:52
Yeah. So I'm going to go ahead and just, you
26:54
know, really quick. You just said something about
26:58
Mercedes catching up to Ferrari. Yeah, 24 .2.
27:01
And then you just said that the current position
27:04
is what you would. thought it would be. Mercedes
27:06
is consistently doing okay. I mean, Russell's
27:10
consistently up there. Antonelli is here or there.
27:12
Fighting for points. And then Ferrari is, like,
27:15
very all over the place, especially with Lewis.
27:18
Charles is... more consistent lately like we
27:22
i think we've seen some recently we've seen some
27:24
worse showings i think a little bit maybe um
27:27
i mean yeah does mercedes catch up to ferrari
27:29
it might even out it might be a race for second
27:32
yeah i mean after this weekend i'm kind of convinced
27:34
that ferrari's found like a good setting and
27:36
then lewis just needs to catch up and then they'll
27:38
be set, and they'll probably keep their position.
27:41
But Mercedes could also kind of have a breakthrough
27:43
at any point. So my only dispute— There's one
27:47
team getting in the way that we haven't talked
27:48
about yet. My only dispute to all of that is
27:51
I think right now there's a lot of hindsight
27:52
bias with how good Mercedes did this last weekend.
27:55
And I think the only reason Mercedes did this
27:58
last weekend, or the only reason they did as
28:00
good as they did this last weekend, was because
28:02
of weather. Like, we were expecting this weekend
28:05
to be hot. And some rain came in the night before
28:08
the race, cooled down the track a lot, and it
28:10
was cool track temperatures, which is where the
28:14
Mercedes thrives. And I think that that happenstance
28:19
happened to allow George Russell and the rest
28:22
of the Mercedes to thrive. Sorry, Joe's messing
28:27
with stuff. During Mike's take. Unbelievable.
28:30
That's interesting. Call your mom. We have a
28:32
lot of cold races coming up. Do we? We also have
28:35
a lot of hot races coming up. That's true. We
28:36
are going back to the Middle East. We are, but
28:39
then we're coming back. We're also going to Mexico
28:41
and Cota, which are both incredibly hot tracks.
28:43
I don't know if they're incredibly hot. They're
28:45
also later in the year. Texas in July? Texas
28:48
in August? It's not going to be August either.
28:51
okay september is still texas it's fair that's
28:54
fair it's gonna be like yeah it's right okay
28:56
it's gonna be like 80 to 90 celsius okay i mean
28:58
okay but like qatar at night kota at night those
29:03
are gonna be cooler still really hot do you not
29:05
remember they're not gonna be really hot do you
29:07
not remember Oscar Piastri last year at Qatar,
29:12
literally him laying down on the floor to cool
29:15
down. You're 100 % correct. It's very, very humid
29:19
there. Incredibly humid, incredibly hot. No,
29:22
you're right. You're right. But out of summer,
29:23
they could flip the script. Maybe it'll be a
29:25
hot running car. That'd be crazy. Yeah, I think
29:28
you're right. The cool does definitely help them
29:30
a lot, but they have a whole kind of... He's
29:33
down playing George Skill. Yeah, I don't know.
29:35
I also do that. I'm here for the mix -up. I'd
29:38
like to see them fighting. And not just because
29:39
you have them up there. I just want to see more
29:41
fighting between them. Honestly, as much as I
29:43
want my predictions to be right, I like Mercedes
29:45
more than I do Ferrari. So if Mercedes gets ahead,
29:47
I'm happy. Sounds good. Aston. Aston, I wore
29:53
my hat. Yeah, crazy. I forgot they existed. I
29:56
thought we already covered them. Aston Martin
29:58
jumps to sixth in Constructors. And this is exactly
30:01
what we all expected to see out of him. Finishes
30:04
like this from the start of the season, honestly.
30:07
I didn't. Well, we know. But like mid... Oh,
30:12
Joe's taking out the OG paper here. Let's see.
30:14
Who did we have as fifth? Aston Martin. That's
30:18
crazy. Granted, there's six right now, but only
30:21
18 points away. Only 18 points away. Yeah, you're
30:24
right. How much have they gotten in the last
30:26
four races, though? It's all right here. Hey,
30:29
I mean, listen, a short burst is still worth
30:33
it. We saw Alpine do it last year. What I'm saying
30:35
is when they went into this season, they were
30:38
talking about how this season wasn't going to
30:40
be their focus. They were more focused on 2026,
30:43
right? They said Newey wasn't even going to look
30:45
at this car. And then they were ninth in constructors
30:49
and they were panicking and they were like, OK,
30:52
you know what, Adrian, take a look at this car
30:54
over lunch. Right. Adrian took a couple looks
30:56
at the car, gave them some ideas. They brought
30:58
some upgrades. Things got better. And now they're
31:00
actually starting to perform. And where they
31:03
weren't going to really work on this car at all,
31:05
they've started working on this car and it's
31:07
starting to show. So, I mean, I feel like my
31:11
prediction wasn't too crazy. I wasn't expecting
31:13
them to actually work on their car. Fair enough.
31:17
But anyways, enough trying to defend my honor.
31:20
No, no. Great GP. I think my favorite news article
31:24
from Aston's great showing is that they need
31:27
to understand why it was such a good showing.
31:29
They're like, not 100 % sure where this came
31:32
from. Because I don't think they had any huge
31:34
upgrades or anything. I mean, Alpine had more
31:38
of an upgrade for 100 than Aston Martin did.
31:40
Yeah, right. That's crazy, right? That's crazy,
31:42
right? Isn't that crazy? Anyway, I mean, yeah,
31:49
it's insane. I'm just wondering if a ton of points
31:52
right away. I'm just wondering if the Aston is
31:54
like super high downforce or something like that
31:56
and just really good in low speed corners. And
31:59
this track being mostly low speed corners just
32:01
meant that they were able to extract more performance
32:03
out of this track because they did terribly at
32:06
Spa. Yeah, they did do terrible. And that's that's
32:11
like no doubt. So I made the point about the
32:15
Alpine short burst of like points. If that's
32:18
Aston's strategy, they did it way too early.
32:21
I'm getting the playback of Fast and Furious
32:25
too soon. Yeah, nice. Good call. That's funny.
32:37
Last but not least. Last but probably least.
32:41
Joe is stretching, getting worked out. I need
32:45
to lean back for the blowback. Take it away,
32:48
Joe, to talk about mimicry. Let me paint you
32:51
a picture really quick. Okay, Bob Ross. Joe,
32:56
you're bleeding. Look how excited he is. He's
32:58
bleeding on his arm. Oh, my gosh. That's crazy.
33:01
Don't put it on there. Don't, don't. Hold, please.
33:07
Why are you bleeding? What the heck? Sorry, we
33:09
don't need that paper. I've been very fidgety
33:12
today, and so I might have just scratched myself.
33:15
He's just so excited. Do we have a nurse on standby
33:19
for our shows? It's okay. I'm not bleeding that
33:21
badly. I'm not bleeding that badly. Kevin, I'm
33:22
going to get you a nurse cap. We're going to
33:24
get demonetized. It's fine. I would like you
33:26
to imagine this. Please. All right. Start of
33:30
the race. Wait, do we have to close our eyes
33:32
too? No. This is mostly for me. You can if you
33:34
want to. So let me try to imagine with my eyes
33:36
open. LeClaire is in first. He gets a really
33:38
good run. Oscar gets a really good run behind
33:41
him. And Lando Norris falls two places behind.
33:44
P5. Three places behind? Yeah, he went to P5.
33:48
Okay, three places behind. Within the next 40
33:52
or so laps, I'll say 30 laps, he's able to make
33:56
a couple positions up, and he decides to go for
33:59
a different strategy than the other top runners.
34:02
He's going to go for a one -stop. He makes the
34:05
one -stop work. He gets to first. Everyone tries
34:07
to catch up. Again, Leclerc in first for the
34:11
first half of the race. I think he's going to
34:14
win. He has good pace. Oscar cannot catch him.
34:17
We get to 40 and beyond. Lando keeping first.
34:22
Oscar behind, getting closer and closer. By the
34:26
last 10 laps, like 15 seconds ahead of third.
34:31
After not being in first, they made that gap
34:35
half race distance, right? crazy effort now other
34:41
competitors aside let's go ahead and talk about
34:43
mclaren just in general or not mclaren in general
34:46
just mclaren specifically We saw more fighting
34:50
between Norris and Piastri. We knew it was going
34:52
to happen. Norris, I did not think Norris was
34:54
going to keep it. I thought Piastri was going
34:56
to get him. We got to lap 67 or something like
35:01
that. We got a huge lockup from Piastri. Almost
35:04
went straight into Lando. A repeat and reverse
35:07
order of Canada. Horror movie for me. Horror
35:11
movie for me. He ends up keeping it. We hear
35:16
him. kind of you know just his whole strategy
35:20
both of their strategies are talking about each
35:22
other they're focused on each other the focus
35:24
on the championship oh yeah they just have monster
35:27
pace currently finishing the race 25 seconds
35:31
away from third it's just a good day to be mclaren
35:35
i'm sure it's not a good day to be oscar i'm
35:37
sure he's gonna think about you know a lot of
35:39
things um he might have been a strategy thing
35:42
you know he just wasn't the right strategy to
35:44
go with um but It was a great showing again.
35:49
I'm happy to be wearing a new McLaren hat. I'm
35:52
happy that I bought this hat this weekend. Just
35:54
giving them money for unbelievable. He's literally
35:57
buying their new parts. Yeah, pretty much. I'm
36:01
buying the upgrades. I'm actually funding whoever
36:03
the reseller is. I don't know. But I mean, just
36:07
I mean, another one to McLaren's 200th win. You
36:11
are correct. I believe it was the 200th win.
36:13
Correct. Just, again, another master class. No
36:18
real big issues except for Piastri's lockup.
36:20
Otherwise, very solid race from both of the drivers.
36:24
I'm looking forward. And Lando keeps catching
36:26
them. Like, Lando's getting closer and closer.
36:28
It's right there. That's part of our summer break
36:30
preview. He's right there. He's right there.
36:33
We'll definitely get into that. Nine points away.
36:35
I had two thoughts. Yeah. Is it negative? No,
36:38
no, no. Both great. So, two thoughts. One, like,
36:42
first off, Oscar. in post -race interview even
36:45
commented saying like he wasn't upset with the
36:47
result he said lato drove excellently i felt
36:50
like i drove great just strategies were different
36:53
and he goes it just didn't work out it happens
36:56
you know like if there were one or two more laps
36:59
oscar would have had him for sure so like it
37:02
is what it is honestly i don't think oscar is
37:05
upset about that i don't think he has any reason
37:06
to be upset about that uh my other thing is that
37:10
a driver of the day went to gabriel bordoletto
37:12
who i think is that's awesome i love to see him
37:15
getting driver of the day i like to see different
37:17
drivers winning it but if i'm being real he didn't
37:20
deserve it he drove really really good but i
37:23
do think lando had the best drive of the day
37:25
i do think that resoundingly like he was one
37:29
of only a few drivers who made a one -stop work
37:31
he took a like he made up four positions back
37:36
up to first and then held that position and was
37:41
able to fight off a charging oscar a charging
37:43
oscar on on a huge tire delta and like yeah just
37:50
and still like you said finish like what like
37:52
20 seconds ahead of third like yep something
37:56
like that it was 20 i have it right here it's
37:58
21 .9 seconds yeah so yeah so like absolutely
38:02
that was also fast this weekend yes absolutely
38:06
monster drive i think lando was the best driver
38:09
on the day i'm not going to complain about gabriel
38:12
getting driver of the day but i feel like give
38:14
the boys roses you know okay fair enough yeah
38:19
20 21 22 seconds away from third and then russell
38:23
in third 21 seconds away from leclerc crazy yeah
38:27
it's just that yeah it's Just a great weekend
38:31
for McLaren. Just a great season for McLaren.
38:34
Am I right? No, for sure. I have to soak this
38:37
all up. I got to roll around in it because I
38:39
just don't know what's going to happen next.
38:39
Before they take their tragic fall. Because you
38:41
don't know what's about to happen coming out
38:42
of summer break. When Aston Martin shows up and
38:44
wins Constructors next year. I feel like we have
38:46
Constructors locked up this year. Sure. 100%.
38:49
I think one of them has Drivers locked up, too.
38:52
Who's in third? It's Max in third still, right?
38:56
Yes. It's Max in third, but he is... He is almost
39:00
100 points away from Norris at this point. That's
39:03
crazy to think about. He's just about 90, 80,
39:07
86, 88, if you're being specific. Damn. Wicked.
39:11
George is only 15 points behind him. That's wild.
39:16
Is that crazy? That's wild. That's wild. Yikes.
39:20
Joe, do you have any calm call -outs? Man. Just
39:23
the one that you put down. So I'll let you cover
39:25
it. The Piastri one? Yeah. Okay. Oh, and the
39:27
Leclerc one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the Piastri
39:30
one, he pretty much, you know, engineer came
39:33
on, whatever, talking about how far he is or
39:37
ahead of the Ferrari. And he really didn't, he
39:40
pretty much said he doesn't care. He was really
39:43
only worried about Lando, and it just solidifies
39:46
how bad these drivers want this WDC at this point.
39:49
Again, leading into our summer break preview,
39:52
we can definitely touch on it one more time before
39:54
we close out. And then the only other one I had
39:57
was I just put LeClaire meltdown for a minute.
39:59
I mean, he had a solid like 15 seconds where
40:02
he just let it all out. The whole message with
40:04
the starting with this is so frustrating. So
40:07
incredibly frustrating. The commentator was like,
40:10
we're running out of screen. Yeah, exactly. I
40:12
know you've seen this, but on TikTok, people
40:14
are editing, editing that message and doing the
40:17
Star Wars intro and just kind of like setting
40:20
it up. It's so funny. It's so funny. I've not
40:23
seen that. That's hilarious. It's so good. My
40:26
algorithm's off. I need to see more of that.
40:27
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the heck? Mine, too. He
40:29
sends me all of my Formula One TikToks. I'm like,
40:32
TikTok, figure it out. I want to see this stuff,
40:34
too. Right. You guys are liking them, man. I
40:36
do. All right, all right, all right. Quick thoughts.
40:38
You got any quick thoughts? Quick thoughts? Your
40:41
face is a quick thought. No, Joe, that's my note.
40:43
Nice. You stole it. Nice. Quick thoughts. I just
40:46
kind of wanted to, we have, well, we're at 40.
40:49
We're good. Woo! I don't know if we're going
40:54
to touch on this in summer preview, but I'm curious.
40:56
Favorite moment from first half of the year?
40:58
Nah. Yeah, we could talk about that real quick.
41:02
It doesn't have to be anything huge. Just call
41:04
one moment out. Come on. It's easy. I bought
41:08
a hat. It's Nico. It's Nico on the podium. That
41:12
was the most exciting racing moment I think I've
41:15
ever had. Not even close. It is a hard one to
41:19
top. That's a hard one to top. Did Kimi get a
41:26
podium? He did. I think that's what it is for
41:29
me. Just rookie getting on podium was pretty
41:32
wild. Yeah. I'm pretty sure he did. Kimi was
41:33
on the podium with George. They double podiumed.
41:35
I'm pretty sure. Yeah. What race was that? Great
41:37
question. Wait, Kimi got a podium? You'd think
41:39
I would know. Yeah, Kimi's been on the podium.
41:41
I'm almost positive, dude. Not here. Not Belgium.
41:43
Hold on. Yeah, we're double checking. Oh, he
41:47
did. He got a podium in Canada. He was third.
41:49
Yeah. Yeah. wow i think that's what it is for
41:52
me obviously such a huge moment that i remembered
41:54
what race it was but you know i mean yeah no
41:57
but that was awesome yeah and it was it was a
41:59
good it was a great drive out of him too sure
42:00
for sure joe what's your you what's your what's
42:04
yours um you know man's asked a question doesn't
42:10
even have his own answer i don't i was thinking
42:12
about this early today and i was like i was like
42:13
thinking about it and i was like i just i don't
42:15
know if i have like i so much so much crazy good
42:18
things have happened nico's a really hard one
42:21
to beat for sure it's really hard it's really
42:23
really hard to beat that one um i mean i this
42:28
is not a single moment but like just the the
42:32
The dominance we've been seeing from some of
42:34
the McLaren drivers and some of the fights we've
42:36
seen between them were great as well. But I think
42:40
if I had to pick one, it's probably Nico. That
42:42
was such a special moment. It was really, really
42:44
cool seeing the team so excited and them partying.
42:48
I love seeing that stuff. Yeah, for sure. That
42:50
was really nice. Oh, I'll also say this. This
42:53
last weekend on the podium, Lando took the trophies,
42:57
put them to the side so they didn't break, and
42:59
then he started celebrating. That was also a
43:00
pretty good fun moment, too. I was like, I saw
43:02
him like take the trophies and move them off
43:04
to the side. I was like, ah, he's learning. And
43:06
then he shook and I was, and he went, and I was
43:08
like, he did the thing. Oh my gosh. Um, let's
43:14
see. Do we even have, do you guys have any news?
43:17
Cause I mean, I know usually we do a transition,
43:19
but there's no news right now on here. So I might
43:22
as well just cover it. Cause I don't think there's
43:23
any news. I didn't have anything. I haven't,
43:26
I looked, I haven't even looked at the thing.
43:28
Are we going to talk about, uh, ideas predictions
43:30
for summer break yeah yeah for sure moves and
43:33
things like that i assumed as much into that
43:35
yeah shizzle good should we just get into that
43:37
well no i know let's just do our own yeah i mean
43:41
that's what i mean we got no news so yeah we
43:42
probably just get into summer break preview In
43:45
a minute here. What do you got there, Kev? What
43:46
do we got? Don't break the trophy. Oh, yeah,
43:48
that's my favorite. Oh, that's awesome. No, that's
43:52
the champagne bottle. He signed the champagne,
43:55
and he wrote himself a note saying don't break
43:57
the trophy, which is the funniest moment. Everybody
44:00
always needs gentle reminders from themselves.
44:02
Yeah. With that, Kev, when you're ready, let's
44:07
go right into summer break preview. And now I...
44:23
I'm here to bring you up to speed for this summer
44:26
break. We don't have a race to cover this week.
44:29
We will cover that in three weeks, but we have
44:33
three weeks, but we have summer break, you know,
44:36
we're going to just kind of talk really quick
44:39
about what we think might be coming for summer
44:41
break. What we're most, maybe most looking forward
44:43
to after summer break, maybe, maybe just sort
44:46
of like a race that we're really looking forward
44:48
to or something. I'm going to kind of kick it
44:50
to you. Cause you have a couple of notes here
44:51
that you, you may want to do. Yeah, the second
44:54
one is wildness before we get into predictions.
44:56
But the first one is, oh, fellas, fellas, fellas,
45:00
fellas. We are staring right at an epic Lando
45:07
versus Oscar 10 -round heavyweight title match
45:11
with only nine points separating the pair of
45:13
papayas. Sunday, Sunday. Sunday, Sunday, Sunday.
45:16
Can't see shit. It's five. Take about 10 % off
45:21
there, Super Chief. Yeah, back in 1999 they were.
45:25
Anyway, I think I spit on my screen. You almost
45:28
broke your chair while you were at it, too. That
45:29
was crazy. Yeah, anyway, real quick, had to get
45:31
all that energy out. Oh, man. We are about to
45:35
have a crazy 10 races. I mean, if those last
45:39
few laps showed us anything, they both want it
45:42
bad. Oh, I mean, yeah. Bad, bad, bad, bad. Absolutely.
45:45
It'd be each of their first one, so I don't know.
45:49
I think we're going to see some garbage. Thoughts?
45:51
Thoughts? Who do we have? Who's going to do it?
45:52
Who do we have? Starting with the McLaren boy.
45:56
This is your team. My season prediction is Lando,
46:00
but man, Oscar's been showing up. Oscar's been
46:03
showing up, but Lando has been having a comeback.
46:06
That's what makes me so excited post -summer
46:09
break. We're going to see a lot of really good
46:11
fights, I'm hoping, from both of them. I'm hoping
46:14
we don't just see one of them fall off and the
46:15
other one just kind of... If they do, it's going
46:18
to be Lando, I think. Why? I just think Oscar's
46:21
more consistent than him. And then I think Lando
46:24
has some really good, really, really good races.
46:26
I think Lando gets in his head more than Oscar
46:29
does. Definitely. That'd be the only down. To
46:32
answer your question, I think it's probably going
46:34
to be Oscar. Ooh. Okay. And he is the current
46:36
leader, right? He is. By nine points? Yeah. You
46:39
want me to go? Yeah, you're good. Lando Norris.
46:42
I love that. You think Lando's going to take
46:43
it? I'm really happy someone said Lando. This
46:45
guy can't think that. I'm really happy someone
46:48
said Lando. I'm with you. I think it's going
46:50
to be Oscar. I love Lando. I like Oscar more.
46:52
I think either one of them could take it, honestly.
46:55
Preface, I'm predicting it to be Oscar, but if
46:57
Lando gets it, I'm going to be like, yeah, okay,
46:59
sure. Oh, yeah. I'm going to be so happy. I'm
47:02
going to be probably more happy if Lando gets
47:04
it, but I think realistically Oscar probably
47:06
will. gremlin inside of me really doesn't want
47:11
lando to get Why? Do you not like Lando? No,
47:16
I do. It's such a meme that Lando's been working
47:21
so hard to get this title. Lando spent so much
47:25
time building this team up only for some random
47:27
schmuck to come in here. Australia? Some random
47:31
schmuck from Australia to show up, take his position,
47:34
and win Constructors. You're a bad person. You're
47:37
a bad person. Like I said, the gremlin inside
47:40
of me. You can't even say Lando deserves it.
47:43
it more because Oscar also deserves it. He's
47:45
had a great drive all season. Just because Lando's
47:47
been with McLaren for longer and has been fighting
47:50
it for longer and he had a really good last season,
47:53
it's just Oscar showing up. Full stop. Honestly,
47:57
I'm kind of in a position where I was like...
48:01
lando you kind of had your shot last year and
48:03
you bottled it no no i super disagree with that
48:07
i don't think he had i don't think he ever had
48:09
a shot yesterday i'm saying this with hindsight
48:11
obviously but uh last year sorry yesterday i
48:15
don't think he ever had a shot last year and
48:17
i'm saying that with hindsight obviously but
48:19
like yeah i don't know i feel like he had a shot
48:22
i think he definitely has a better shot this
48:24
year for full stop yeah obviously we see that
48:27
with the points but like yeah i don't know i'm
48:30
like I'm not like he had a shot last year, and
48:33
then he bottled it, and now he's got another
48:35
competitor. Are you okay? Yeah, I'm good. Now
48:38
he's got another competitor, and this other competitor
48:41
is showing up. It's Oscar's third year, and I
48:43
would love to see somebody win a WDC in their
48:46
third year. That would be crazy. That would be
48:49
crazy. That's some Lewis Hamilton, you know.
48:53
Is that some Lewis Hamilton style? Does Lewis
48:54
win his third year? Yeah, I think so. That's
48:56
crazy. Lewis Hamilton. WDC titles. That sounds
49:00
correct. Actually, I could be very wrong. Yeah,
49:04
I don't know when he... His first one was in
49:07
2008 with McLaren. I think that's four years
49:10
because I think he started in 2004. Okay. That
49:12
does sound right. I could be wrong. That does
49:14
sound right. So maybe four years is too close.
49:16
We have the power of Google. 2007. Is when he
49:19
started? Yeah. Dang! Why did I think 2004? Wait,
49:24
no. That doesn't make... Wait. That means it
49:26
was the second year. Did he win WDC his second
49:30
year? Oh, God. We're going down the rabbit trail.
49:33
Are we not? Look, we should know this. Yeah,
49:35
we should know this. We're losing all credibility.
49:39
Okay, so I was just curious to see who was the
49:44
earliest driver to win WDC. in their careers
49:50
like whether it was second year third year whatever
49:53
and giuseppe nino farina is the earliest rookie
49:57
to win the formula one world drivers championship
50:00
achieving the feat in the inaugural 1950 season
50:04
which was also his first year in the sport oh
50:07
okay the inaugural season yeah first year in
50:10
the sport because it's the inaugural season so
50:12
that's uh that's a little yes hamilton was runner
50:15
up in his first season And he won his second
50:18
season. That's wild. That is pretty wild. That's
50:21
wild. Okay. Piastri's still very close, you know.
50:25
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, hey, hear this. It's also
50:28
in a McLaren. Kind of crazy, right? I mean, I
50:32
bet you'd like to think that. Six years ago,
50:34
yeah. Okay. Anyway. All right, I got a couple
50:38
crazy things to throw at you. Yeah, please do.
50:40
So did you guys hear that Ollie Bierman is to
50:42
replace Lewis at Ferrari this summer? Next season,
50:45
Sebastian Vettel to come back and replace Yuki
50:48
Tsunoda for a Constructor title with Max in 2026.
50:54
Gasly also to retire as Alpine has sucked up
50:59
all of his joy he gets from racing. There's a
51:03
lot of things I just threw at you. Did you just
51:06
try and clickbait me? Yeah, for sure. No, I'm
51:11
just curious if you have any other outlandish
51:13
things you have thought about that you don't
51:16
want to share with anybody. That would be a good
51:17
thing to share. Just throw it out there. Max
51:19
to Mercedes. No, that's over. That's not going
51:22
to happen. No, it's never going to be over. We're
51:24
going to keep hearing about it. That's also not
51:25
outlandish. It'll come back. Don't worry. Fair
51:27
enough. Any outlandish stuff? I mean, nothing
51:31
crazy. I'm really... I don't have anything as
51:33
crazy as any of the nonsense you just spilled
51:36
out. I really had to think about some of those.
51:37
Any of that nonsense that you just spilled out.
51:39
I'm really looking forward to seeing what they
51:41
do at Alpine, honestly. That's, like, my biggest
51:43
watch at the moment is just seeing them figure
51:46
out what they're going to do. Yeah, because we
51:48
got driver. We kind of have, like, driver decisions
51:50
and team principal decisions. So, like, very
51:53
looking. Like, weirdly, last team on the constructors.
51:57
kind of just watching them. That's my big watch
52:00
team at the moment over summer break. And then.
52:03
I don't think George has signed with Mercedes
52:04
yet. He has not, and neither Antonelli also does
52:07
not have a contract for 26. I thought I saw a
52:09
headline saying that George won't, or a headline
52:13
said that George won't sign over the summer break
52:15
either. Maybe they said, maybe it was clickbait,
52:19
and it was like, yeah, because he's going to
52:20
sign after the summer break, like right after,
52:22
like when Toto usually does it. Stupid. I don't
52:25
know. Stupid. I don't know. Is it true that,
52:27
sorry, you said Toto and it triggered something.
52:29
Is it true that Toto went to talk to Lewis after
52:32
this race? Did he? I don't know. What's his name?
52:35
Vassar or whatever brought Toto in and be like,
52:37
dude, can you just talk to this guy real quick?
52:39
I'm sure he did. The two of them are still really
52:40
good friends. That's what I mean. I thought I
52:42
saw some thing. Toto has said before that the
52:44
two of them regularly text each other. Oh, I'm
52:47
sure. They keep in contact. They chat with each
52:49
other. You won world championships together.
52:50
You're going to still talk to each other. You
52:51
spent years with each other. There's probably
52:54
some stuff you can't say. Of course. But you
52:57
can be friends. Yeah, absolutely. No, no, no.
53:03
I don't think you're wrong. I think they did
53:06
have maybe a little bit of a chat or something.
53:08
It would make sense. It would make sense, yeah.
53:12
Anyway, all right. Summer predictions. What do
53:14
we got? I mean, whatever. Cadillac will probably
53:17
announce at least one driver. Oh, I hope so.
53:19
Oh, that's another big watch. I really, really
53:21
want to see Cadillac announce. Just announce
53:23
somebody, man. I don't care who it is at this
53:25
point. Just let's announce a driver. At least
53:27
we don't. It seems really late considering 26
53:30
is coming up. There was somebody from the wing
53:32
of Cadillac, somebody who works for Cadillac,
53:34
who stated that Cadillac will be announcing their
53:37
first driver in their lineup this summer break.
53:40
Is the easy one just Botas? And then the second
53:43
driver is the hard one. I definitely think that's
53:44
the easiest one. I mean, I feel like they're
53:46
probably going to announce them at the same...
53:48
I really hope that they announce that they're
53:50
picking up Botas and that Botas doesn't go to
53:53
freaking Alpine. He deserves better, okay? I
53:58
don't see Alpine. I don't see him sticking at
54:00
Alpine unless he starts getting them points and
54:02
then they're like... You want a seat? Is Botox
54:05
number one? Does Alpine outperform Cadillac when
54:09
they first join in? I sure hope they do. That's
54:11
a question right now. They should be. I sure
54:14
hope they do. They should be. No, yeah, that's
54:17
another really great point. Yeah, so I'm looking
54:19
forward to seeing what Alpine does, and I'm really
54:22
looking forward to seeing eventually what Cadillac
54:24
brings, too. I could see Alpine doing nothing.
54:26
Predictions for Cadillac, it's Botas, and it's
54:28
probably going to be Checo. I don't want it to
54:33
be Checo. I like it to be a rookie, but it'll
54:35
probably be Checo. I think my dream pairing for
54:39
Cadillac right now is Valtteri and Felipe Drogovic.
54:44
Drogovic? Drogovic. Is he an F2 driver? He's
54:47
a reserve driver for Aston Martin. Reserve driver,
54:48
okay. Yep. I'd like to see this one happen. Has
54:51
his name been circulated with Cadillac at all?
54:54
Yes, it has. There's been a lot of talk. There's
54:55
also talk about Mick Schumacher. There has been
54:58
talk about Mick Schumacher. Colton Hurta. Although
55:02
Colton Hurta has fallen off pretty hard. Indy
55:05
car driver, right? Yep, Indy car driver, correct.
55:07
He has fallen off the radar pretty hard, though.
55:09
I don't think they're going to go Indy. Yeah,
55:11
probably not. I don't think. For one of their
55:14
first drivers. They probably won't. I think someday
55:17
we'll see an Indy driver come back into F1, but
55:21
I don't think it'll be this time around. Nope.
55:23
Unfortunately. Yeah, so nonetheless. I wonder
55:27
how real a Mick Schumacher situation would be.
55:31
He's not racing in F1 anymore. He's doing other
55:35
things. Sports car? I think he's doing sports
55:38
car. I know he was doing, he's probably doing
55:40
WEC. Yeah. I thought last I heard he was doing
55:44
sports car with Alpine. I think you're right.
55:46
Yeah. Yeah, that's what he mentioned last week
55:49
for sure. I did mention that. He was definitely
55:50
doing that during Le Mans. I don't know if he's
55:52
doing that full year. I thought he had a contract
55:56
with Alpine to drive a sports car with him. He
55:58
is testing with Alpine and is being considered
56:01
by General. Okay, so every single AI overview
56:05
is saying he's being considered for Cadillac.
56:07
Of course. He is in WEC currently, which is Le
56:11
Mans. uh sports car i don't think he i don't
56:15
know if he's racing full -time though like he
56:17
did lamar because i needed a lot of drivers for
56:19
it he might be doing just more testing and stuff
56:21
like that i'm not sure he is 26 years old i mean
56:24
his cadillac literally mick schumacher's last
56:26
opportunity to maybe get another f1 seat yeah
56:30
like literally lap final final like this could
56:33
be his last chance you don't think i think that
56:36
there's A distance? Alpine? Yes. No, yes. I think
56:41
there's a distant world that Alpine's like. Alpine's
56:43
like, okay. Alpine looks at their little Rolodex
56:46
and like, all right, who else do we got here?
56:48
Mick? Okay. God. Just chew him up and spit him
56:53
out for the second time in Formula One. You're
56:55
right. Alpine endurance team. Yeah. Anyway. So
56:59
those are my predictions. That's who I want.
57:03
I hope. I do hope it's Felipe and Valtteri. That
57:06
would be a fun team -up. I would prefer seeing
57:09
Botas and Mick, but I super doubt Mick's coming
57:12
back. I don't think Mick's coming back. I think
57:15
if they got Mick, I'd be happy. I'd be happy
57:18
to see him back. I would hope nothing for him
57:21
to succeed. I genuinely feel so bad for the guy
57:30
that he's got the Schumacher name. That would
57:35
be tough. You see it all the time with pro athletes.
57:38
Their sons or whatever or the juniors and stuff
57:41
don't pan out sometimes. Did you know that Senna
57:45
had a cousin and he raced in F1? Yeah, I do.
57:48
I don't remember what his name was. I've heard
57:52
some little things. I'm not going to say I know
57:53
everything about him. I think I was looking at
57:55
a replay of a race that happened in the 2010s
57:59
and there was a Senna racing and I was like,
58:02
What? Yeah. That's crazy. He's like, wait, no,
58:06
he's no longer around. What are we doing? Yeah,
58:08
no, man. Exactly. That's what I said. I was like,
58:12
this is a glitch. Who was it that Charles Leclerc
58:15
is related to? He's related to a relatively big
58:19
former driver, not Villeneuve. Who the heck?
58:24
Oh, not cousin, nephew. Sorry. I apologize. He
58:26
raised 2010 to 2012. My bad. Nephew. Okay. That
58:31
makes a little more sense. Yeah, for sure. For
58:33
sure. Hey, at least he got a shot. Two years?
58:36
Yeah. I mean, he raced for HRT, Renault, and
58:39
Williams. Okay. And apparently he's also known
58:43
for racing series like GT and Formula E. Okay.
58:47
Okay. Does he still currently race Formula E?
58:52
Let's find out. Bruno Senna. And then we'll wrap
58:55
this thing up. He's a former race car driver,
58:57
so I don't think so. He's 41 years old right
59:00
now. Yeah, no, I don't think he's done anything.
59:03
Fair enough. Oh. Oh! that's kind of cool he won
59:08
he won 2017 he won the fia wec championship in
59:13
lmp2 that's pretty cool in lmp2 yeah so that's
59:16
like the yeah like there's like the big like
59:19
the big classes the gtps right the lmp2s are
59:22
like the one right like one right below yeah
59:24
that's who it was i was trying to remember trying
59:27
to remember who it was that charles eclair was
59:29
related to and he was related to uh eclair to
59:32
no uh jules bianchi He was related to him? Yes.
59:38
Yes, he was related to Jules Bianchi. It was
59:42
a godfather? Godfather. Jules Bianchi was his
59:46
godfather. That's what it was. Bianchi's a great
59:49
bicycle. Jules Bianchi was the guy who died in
59:53
an accident crashing into the recovery vehicle.
59:58
Oh, that was him. Yes. Why? Who did I think that
1:00:01
was? Okay. Interesting. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
1:00:03
God, that was sad. Yeah. Um, yeah. Okay. Back
1:00:08
in 2015. Wow. That was a lot more recent than
1:00:11
I thought. Um, yeah. So that's, this is my, this
1:00:16
is my stuff. This is all I have. I'm locking
1:00:17
my phone. Right. Right. Well, thanks for being
1:00:21
back, Mike. Thanks. Yeah. Thanks for being back.
1:00:23
I'm glad I could be here. Unperished. Unperished.
1:00:26
I've been necromanced back to the living. That's
1:00:31
good. Joel. This is so cringe. so impossibly
1:00:44
cringe right we gotta wrap this thing up my mom's
1:00:49
home my mom's here Kev thanks for doing it as
1:00:52
always of course no show until August 26th that's
1:00:57
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1:01:01
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1:01:03
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