Latest / Becker’s Healthcare - Clinical Leadership Podcast / Dr. Arturo LoAIza-Bonilla, Co-Founder of Massive Bio and Medical Director of Oncology Research & Systemwide Chair of Medical Research at Capital Health
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- 0:00Welcome everyone to the Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:03I'm Mariah Muhammad, writer and moderator with Becker's
- 0:05Healthcare. And I'm thrilled to have with me
- 0:07today doctor Arturo Loiza Bumia,
- 0:09cofounder of Massive Biomedical
- 0:11Director of Oncology Research and System Wide Chair
- 0:14of Medical Research at Capital Health. Doctor, welcome
- 0:17to the Becker's Healthcare podcast. We're very excited
- 0:19to have you join us today. To get
- 0:21us started, would you mind please introducing yourself
- 0:23and telling us a bit about your background?
- 0:26Yes. Absolutely. Thank you so much for the
- 0:28opportunity to be here at the podcast. So
- 0:30as you mentioned, yeah, our tour guides have
- 0:32been, I'm the cofoundature medical officer of MasseyBio,
- 0:35which is a company that uses AI
- 0:38and detailed health solutions to help patients who
- 0:40find clinical trials at scale and kind of
- 0:42relieving the physicians like myself very busy to,
- 0:45keep them off that task and focus on
- 0:47clinical practice. And also I'm the director of
- 0:50oncology research and shadow research system wise for
- 0:53Capital Health, which is a health system in
- 0:54New Jersey and Pennsylvania. So,
- 0:56happy to be here.
- 0:59I my my passion is, you know, as
- 1:01you can imagine, a medical oncology, but also
- 1:04the integration of technology
- 1:05and digital health
- 1:07and that major intersection around clinical trials and,
- 1:10as a way to optimize workflows to make
- 1:12things better for all of us. We're pretty
- 1:14busy in our practices and in health systems
- 1:17and now with
- 1:18every extra click,
- 1:20things are becoming much more, burnout prone. So
- 1:23we wanna make it value based solutions that
- 1:25we can get that to help myself and
- 1:27my own practice. I still practice in the
- 1:29clinic. So,
- 1:30so happy to,
- 1:32discuss with, all of you at Becker's opportunities
- 1:34to optimize those.
- 1:36Yeah. Yeah. Of course. Thank you again for
- 1:38giving us that introduction.
- 1:40So with everything that you're doing and, you
- 1:42know, a part of, what are some of
- 1:43the biggest issues you're following in health care
- 1:45this year?
- 1:48Yeah. So in 2024,
- 1:51one of those things that are coming up
- 1:52is the use of AI. Right? So everyone
- 1:55is talking about AI, but how do we
- 1:57really implement
- 1:58those solutions,
- 2:00at the point of care in front of
- 2:01the patient? What is more important? So,
- 2:03to me is,
- 2:05finding those use cases that are focusing on
- 2:08clinical decision making.
- 2:10How can we use that, to expand precision
- 2:12medicine, for example, biomarker testing for the right
- 2:15patient,
- 2:16at a right time so we don't have
- 2:18to be dealing with
- 2:19under genotype patients who may actually may miss
- 2:22the chance
- 2:23of a targeted drug that is going to
- 2:25make a difference in their lives.
- 2:27And also how,
- 2:29that can help to
- 2:30optimize
- 2:31pathways and patient journeys, particularly with cancer.
- 2:34So it's one of those things that I
- 2:37feel that technology can really make a difference,
- 2:39but make it equitable,
- 2:41because the digital divide is real and not
- 2:44every single
- 2:45cancer patient has the same tools. So how
- 2:47can we democratize this using this new, you
- 2:50know, language models and in other technologies
- 2:54such as ambiance AI or,
- 2:56just,
- 2:58integrated support within the electronic health record, but
- 3:01make it very patient centric.
- 3:03And and lastly, all the the issues that
- 3:05I'm following is the implications on all this
- 3:08on regulatory changes. So for example,
- 3:11the evolution of telemedicine. Right? So there's a
- 3:13lot of, effort happening right now trying to
- 3:15make telemedicine
- 3:17a must,
- 3:18but how we can convince all the stakeholders
- 3:21that is the right path and how to
- 3:22keep the quality
- 3:23of those visits and those assessments
- 3:26in the right way while with implementing that.
- 3:29And lastly for me is the part of
- 3:31the security. Right? So as we're using more
- 3:33systems,
- 3:34and, you know, with those ransom attacks and
- 3:36things are happening,
- 3:37we want to use those tools, but also
- 3:39prevent that,
- 3:41makes us completely dependent on technology.
- 3:43So, how can we create that value model
- 3:46that uses not only the technology, but also
- 3:49makes it safe,
- 3:50and less biased and and also makes our
- 3:53lives easier. So, those are challenges of course,
- 3:56but, with challenges comes opportunity. So that's what
- 3:59I'm more excited about this year.
- 4:03Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. I definitely think AI is
- 4:05such a hot, you know, topic for this
- 4:08year, and there are so many different opinions
- 4:10on how to use it. I definitely agree
- 4:12with you there. Is there anything else that
- 4:14you are kinda excited about or anything that
- 4:16is making you nervous, whether it's anything you're
- 4:18seeing in the news, anything that you're currently
- 4:20doing at your organization?
- 4:25Well, so something that always makes me nervous
- 4:29is,
- 4:31are we going to be able to keep
- 4:33the pace of growth in healthcare without
- 4:37the fear of too much consolidation
- 4:39and that leading to maybe
- 4:42less access to patients. So I think having
- 4:47you know, those things in perspective is always
- 4:49gonna be essential. And I think AI and
- 4:52and other tools have a role
- 4:54to do to do in this, in with
- 4:56these problems.
- 4:57As we have been talking with different stakeholders,
- 4:59you know, in Becker's and beyond, one thing
- 5:02that is clear is that,
- 5:04we're all excited about using
- 5:06innovation to improve
- 5:09the quality of the patient care,
- 5:11but, also how,
- 5:14you know, there there's some disparities
- 5:16across different institutions of which solutions do they
- 5:19use.
- 5:20Interoperability
- 5:21is still a problem between electronic health systems,
- 5:25because, you know, even if I have, you
- 5:27know, one system today,
- 5:29the other health system across the hallway has
- 5:31a different one, and all of them requires
- 5:32a different login.
- 5:34So,
- 5:35as we are getting into more and more
- 5:37technologically driven systems,
- 5:40how are we gonna be able to really,
- 5:42make it completely interoperable. Right? And connect the
- 5:45dots, making it very centric to the patient
- 5:48in front of us, to myself if I
- 5:50am, you know, a patient of the health
- 5:52system.
- 5:53I I wanna have that
- 5:55clarity and and and make it really open,
- 5:58so information flows freely,
- 6:01safely, and also helps us to,
- 6:03prevent,
- 6:04you know, issues with utilization
- 6:07and and and, you know, health care costs
- 6:09are just going through the roof.
- 6:10So,
- 6:11it's kind of finding that balance
- 6:14and and how,
- 6:15the technology advancements,
- 6:17you know, they're outstripping the regulatory frameworks and
- 6:20ethical guidelines so we can ensure, you know,
- 6:22patient access and and safety and equity.
- 6:28Yeah. Thank you so much for giving us
- 6:30that insight. And, doctor, before I let you
- 6:32go, last thing I really wanted to ask
- 6:34you is, what would the most effective health
- 6:36care leaders need in order to be successful
- 6:39in the next 2 to 3 years, would
- 6:40you say?
- 6:44I mean, I think to be successful in
- 6:46next 2, 3 years,
- 6:47health care leaders, they need to be
- 6:51learning and be adapt to leveraging technology,
- 6:54data analytics and understanding the models that we
- 6:57have been using. They're
- 6:59up for
- 7:00for
- 7:01innovation,
- 7:02disruption, replacement,
- 7:04and particularly around operational efficiencies.
- 7:06So
- 7:08the the telehealth systems, they were great for
- 7:11billing and to operationalize
- 7:13certain processes that we do in practices.
- 7:15But, now we it's it's a time to
- 7:18foster,
- 7:19inter institutional,
- 7:20interdisciplinary
- 7:21collaborations, still agile in response to all these,
- 7:24you know, healthcare
- 7:25landscapes are changing constantly.
- 7:28And also, I think that to be successful
- 7:30you have to develop really strong communication skills,
- 7:33not only with the stakeholders internally,
- 7:36but, with the others around you and and
- 7:39even competing health systems, competing,
- 7:43you know, population,
- 7:45access,
- 7:46to really make it
- 7:48very effective. This is a time for collaboration,
- 7:51in the health system so we can really
- 7:52be effective. So to me, it's all a
- 7:54call of, you know, talk to each other,
- 7:57and meet up,
- 7:59be go beyond just the the brands and
- 8:01and really learn what's out because that's gonna
- 8:04help us to become successful as a country,
- 8:06as a in, you know, health system as
- 8:08a whole, which is always challenging, but it
- 8:10has a lot of opportunity. So,
- 8:12so that's what I I welcome folks to
- 8:14do so and and and and happy to
- 8:16be part of the conversation.
- 8:19Yeah. Thank you so much for sharing those
- 8:21final thoughts, doctor. This has definitely been an
- 8:23informative discussion. So, again, I wanna thank you
- 8:25so much for coming on Becker's Healthcare. I
- 8:27look forward to connecting with you again soon.
- 8:31Likewise. Thank you so much.
- 8:33Alrighty. And that was the end of the
- 8:35podcast. I think it went really, really well.
- 8:37How do you feel?
- 8:39Feel yeah. I feel great. Yeah. No. So
- 8:41as long as it makes sense what I
- 8:42said, I'd be just just talking. So Yeah.
- 8:45Yeah. Of course. So, well, I think it
- 8:47went really good.
- 8:49And, again, the podcast team will get in
- 8:50touch with you about 2 weeks out,
- 8:53and provide you that, link, so you can
- 8:56share it and listen to it for yourself.
- 8:58So, if you have any other questions, feel
- 9:00free to email me or the podcast team
- 9:02anytime.
- 9:04Excellent. Sounds good. Thank you so much. Well,
- 9:06I hope you have a great rest of
- 9:07your day.
- 9:08Same to you. Take care. Alright. Bye.