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#606 - Wale talks New Album post MMG, The Blog Era, Sneakers, WaleMania & Jay-Z vs Kanye & More · The Bootleg Kev Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Bootleg CAV Show special guests, one of the oh of
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  Speaker 1: a generation while a though, what how you know, first
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  Speaker 1: of all, this new album, it is a great body
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  Speaker 1: of work front to back.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much.
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  Speaker 1: You know you have like a knack of like like
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  Speaker 1: you have like these really interpersonal songs on this album,
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  Speaker 1: but like the whole shit just sounds like a single,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: Like you're just really good at like joints.
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  Speaker 4: And I appreciate it, man, I appreciate it. I'm grateful
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  Speaker 4: like to get that reception from you. But now I've
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  Speaker 4: just been ducked off. I mean just you know, like
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  Speaker 4: just living like everything is a lot like after COVID,
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  Speaker 4: everything's been like crazy for sure, So I'm just documenting it.
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  Speaker 1: What has your experience been like because you were with
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  Speaker 1: Warner for so many years obviously the MMG situation, the
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  Speaker 1: Warner situation was very fruitful for you in your career.
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  Speaker 1: What has it been like transitioning to a new situation
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  Speaker 1: to death Jam Well, I.
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  Speaker 4: Think I just like wasn't even on Warner that long
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  Speaker 4: for real, Like I think when I left Atlantic.
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  Speaker 2: Well it was kind of like the Atlantic.
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  Speaker 4: I had the two albums too, I want to Ambition
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  Speaker 4: was Atlantic Ambition all the way? Yeah, ambition was at
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  Speaker 4: it was Warner, then it was Atlantic.
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  Speaker 2: Uh and there was like switched from like Atlantic to warn.
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  Speaker 3: It was pretty strange, confusing.
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  Speaker 4: We're still confused, but like you know, getting to be
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  Speaker 4: I feel like I'm new artists a little bit, like
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, like because you know, like
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  Speaker 4: I'm I'm, I'm, I'm I'm presented as myself like like
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  Speaker 4: just wila, you know, and it's just a different thing.
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  Speaker 4: Like even the interview questions are different. It ain't really
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  Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying. It's like it's not
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  Speaker 4: always like MMG Center. But like I said, I love
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  Speaker 4: Ross like I love them that of.
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  Speaker 2: Course, of course.
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  Speaker 1: But I do feel like at a certain point in
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  Speaker 1: time in your career, I mean you got, there was
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  Speaker 1: always an MMG question, Yeah you got?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: So you know, so like when I when I dropped
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  Speaker 4: out of school, I was with Mark Ronson and jay
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  Speaker 4: Z and them, like you know what I'm saying. Then
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  Speaker 4: then I went from like like that to being MMG.
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  Speaker 4: And like now it's like Okay, you're out, You're doing
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  Speaker 4: everything you like you got, You're doing your thing, you
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  Speaker 4: have your own team, you have your own label, your
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  Speaker 4: own building, So it's different a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: How do you look back at because it's crazy to
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  Speaker 1: like when you're like living in it and like as
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  Speaker 1: a DJ and a consumer, I didn't realize how special
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  Speaker 1: the blog erarow was. So now when I look back
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  Speaker 1: and I just think about like clicking on z share links.
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  Speaker 4: And going to Spoiled Man.
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  Speaker 1: But you are like one of the pillars of that era,
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  Speaker 1: and you were kind of like one of the first
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  Speaker 1: guys of that era.
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  Speaker 2: How do you look back at that era of your
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  Speaker 2: career and just.
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  Speaker 4: Just I just think a lot of people forget don't
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  Speaker 4: understand like my like what like like they don't even
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  Speaker 4: know a lot of peoplen't really know how it got here.
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  Speaker 1: Like because the first song I ever played your underground
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  Speaker 1: hip hop show and I cleaned up Go Mode?
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  Speaker 2: Were you a sampled jay Z.
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  Speaker 3: Going to be on it? And Trey?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah that was a fun time as Yeah, you know
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  Speaker 4: how I can't say the game was different though, because
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  Speaker 4: I was like I was like locally famous, but I
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  Speaker 4: was still in school and had a job, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying. But they playing like two of my
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  Speaker 4: songs on radio, Like so like when when when the
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  Speaker 4: blogger came, I was like, dang, like a lot of
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  Speaker 4: them people was famous from the internet, like not where
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  Speaker 4: they was from, you know what I'm saying, Right, I
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  Speaker 4: was lucky enough to have both of you, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And I really didn't understand what was happening.
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  Speaker 4: I ain't really I don't think none of us really
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  Speaker 4: knew what was happening for real, you know.
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  Speaker 1: But I feel like you were like the because I
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  Speaker 1: even think about your freshman cover and like you're the
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  Speaker 1: first guy front and center on that cover, and I
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  Speaker 1: feel like you were kind of like the first guy
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  Speaker 1: to really really break out and have like that buzz
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  Speaker 1: and that star potential out of your out of those
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  Speaker 1: peers that were going like at that same time. Because
• 4:52
  Speaker 1: after you is like when Kendrick starts buzzing and start.
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  Speaker 4: We were all doing at the same time. It's like
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  Speaker 4: it's just in terms of just like getting yeah, blowing.
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  Speaker 3: Up, you know, yeah yeah yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Like I look back at it like, dang, man, like
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  Speaker 4: I remember just the shoot day, Like you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying, Like I remember that, like and to see
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  Speaker 4: me still doing it, like it's a it's a blessing Bro.
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  Speaker 1: And you know your first album has aged gracefully like
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  Speaker 1: attention deficit. I know, like when it first came out,
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  Speaker 1: like a lot of people were like, yo, he sold out.
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  Speaker 1: He did this Old Lady God Bro Chilling is a banger.
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  Speaker 1: It is aged like fine line. Yeah, like that could
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  Speaker 1: get played on the radio today.
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  Speaker 3: I appreciate it, man, I was.
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  Speaker 4: I was like kind of like a testing kind of
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  Speaker 4: thing for early on in my career, Like there was.
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  Speaker 2: Like, let's try something with this guy.
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  Speaker 3: They didn't know.
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  Speaker 4: Because from DC, they don't really know about the region.
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  Speaker 4: They don't know, you know what I'm saying. I was
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  Speaker 4: like saying yes to everything because I just got here.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: Nah.
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  Speaker 1: So this new album, you got the Conundrum record which
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  Speaker 1: kicks things off, which is a very personal record for you.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it kind of deals with, would you say,
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  Speaker 1: your lack of being in a relationship, being married.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like it's just just kind of canna get cold?
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  Speaker 4: How I can get cold?
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, like you essentially were like, Yo, we got
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  Speaker 2: some crazy sex, but I'm.
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  Speaker 4: Gonna come with you, like because it's like some people
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  Speaker 4: drive theyselves mad over their job. You know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: and I think, like I went to I've been in
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  Speaker 4: many places like where I'm like, I'm just too into
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  Speaker 4: the job and I can't even focus on loving nobody,
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  Speaker 4: Like you know what I'm saying. It's just a coldness
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  Speaker 4: in me, like you know what I'm saying, And it
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  Speaker 4: comes from being around such as the botcherss, you know
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  Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 3: Not in the industry. You know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: You gotta you gotta you, gotta, you gotta hard en up,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. Sometimes that carry over to
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  Speaker 4: personal life, your personal life, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: So it's like, you know, I've heard that I'm cold.
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  Speaker 4: I can get cold sometimes.
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  Speaker 1: Do you feel like, you know, obviously your career has
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  Speaker 1: been so successful, You've so millions and a million records,
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  Speaker 1: and but do you feel like it's been at the
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  Speaker 1: expense of your personal life?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's a good question too, Like but yeah,
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  Speaker 4: for sure, Like you know what I'm saying, Like I
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  Speaker 4: got like my my, the way I view the world
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  Speaker 4: is completely different than most of the majority of people,
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  Speaker 4: like you know what I'm saying, Like because what I've seen,
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  Speaker 4: you know, and like I really gave my all to
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  Speaker 4: the music. I gave my all into it and it
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  Speaker 4: you know, if runed a lot of relationships like everyone,
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  Speaker 4: my patients, they patients, you know, like it's just one
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  Speaker 4: of the most vicious sacrifices, you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: Like not really having that. It's not easy to have
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  Speaker 4: that or trust people like that.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I also feel like like there's very few people
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  Speaker 1: who like really care not only about the art as
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  Speaker 1: much as like you care about the art so much
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  Speaker 1: to a level where like you, I mean, we've all
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  Speaker 1: seen you publicly kind of take I guess maybe like
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  Speaker 1: a lack of maybe appreciation, right because a lot of
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  Speaker 1: people say you're underrated, you know what I mean. And
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  Speaker 1: I know that you've you know, been dealing with that
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  Speaker 1: for a while, and you know, is that kind of
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  Speaker 1: something that you feel like you've gotten past.
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  Speaker 4: In a sense, Like I just be over it now
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  Speaker 4: because I'm like, man, you know, like everywhere I go
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  Speaker 4: it's like they are poor or whatever. Like man, you
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  Speaker 4: I just I don't, I don't know. Maybe I'm cynical.
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  Speaker 4: I don't really be believed. I don't really It could
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  Speaker 4: be impostercision, it could be something, but I don't really
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  Speaker 4: subscribe to none of that, you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 4: But that's enabled me to not like get off two
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  Speaker 4: offended if niggas ain't fuck with me, you know what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. So you know, I'm kind of like not
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  Speaker 4: ain't chipping no more like about all that.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I mean, look, I get it though, because
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  Speaker 1: if you like when someone gives a fuck like it's
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  Speaker 1: you want to also like feel like yo, like the
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  Speaker 1: appreciation that comes with the amount of like sacrifice and
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  Speaker 1: work you put into each song, in each lyric and
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  Speaker 1: each other.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, like I just be I always say, like my
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  Speaker 4: thing is, I don't even really care like y'all canfrom
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  Speaker 4: youall pins about the music, but like just get just
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  Speaker 4: listen to it. It was all it for real, Like
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  Speaker 4: if you truly absorb it and then you don't like
• 9:03
  Speaker 4: get cool, that's your opinion. But like there's a lot
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  Speaker 4: of pins with people that didn't even like dive into it,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: feel like you've already like kind of solidified yourself as
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  Speaker 1: the guys who are just so good at like morphing
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  Speaker 1: R and B and hip hop together and just making
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  Speaker 1: music that ladies love. Yeah, when do you feel like
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  Speaker 1: I'm kind of honest something I got a few of
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  Speaker 4: School high school probably, I mean that's when I knew,
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  Speaker 4: like I can you know it is the way. It's
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  Speaker 4: a way that like you know what I'm saying. But
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  Speaker 4: as far as this this is like in my career,
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  Speaker 4: like I don't really think like that, Like I just
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  Speaker 4: be like, I really just be talking and you know
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  Speaker 4: just what comes out. I just try to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: talk for real. I don't really look at it like that.
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  Speaker 4: And it's kind of weird, right, But I'm grateful as
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  Speaker 4: I've asked that success.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure. If you had
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  Speaker 1: to do a collab project with an R and B
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  Speaker 1: singer like lock In, do a whole joint, We've seen
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  Speaker 1: a few of these over the last few years. Who
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  Speaker 1: would you doing with if you couldn't, I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Probably deal o'leon oh deeal o Leon for oh deeal Leon.
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  Speaker 3: Beyonce. Yeah, so uh.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Stevie wonder Stevie would be like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: there's a couple of people.
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  Speaker 3: Man, you know, I'm a lovel boy.
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  Speaker 1: I guess yeah, for sure. Uh you just ended. I
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  Speaker 1: went to the final Wallet Many in Vegas, which was special.
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: It was kind of the beginning of Naomi's hill turn.
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  Speaker 1: She started did she had a little crash out on stage.
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  Speaker 3: I love being part of the k Fabrory.
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  Speaker 1: You know, obviously such a great legacy in the wrestling world.
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  Speaker 1: You are kind of the first wrestling rapper. I think
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  Speaker 1: of you and Dizza is kind of being the first.
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  Speaker 1: Two guys.
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  Speaker 3: Can't have a good gun.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like you guys, I feel like.
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  Speaker 3: You.
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  Speaker 1: Gun obviously has has has been doing it for a
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  Speaker 1: long time. But I mean, like way back in the day,
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  Speaker 1: like but I remember seeing you pay per views like
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  Speaker 1: twenty eleven.
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  Speaker 4: That's actually where I first met a gun in Conway?
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  Speaker 3: Was that the wrestling event crazy.
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  Speaker 1: Back when when I started, No, I mean obviously, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: west Side Gun has turned. I mean, you know what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing was four fourth rope is just crazy. It's
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  Speaker 1: so special crazy. That was my favorite thing that happened
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  Speaker 1: Wrestlmingia weekend was his show.
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  Speaker 3: They they they up to some shout the gun and.
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  Speaker 1: Shout out to him and deer Man. They're they're doing
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  Speaker 1: it for you. Uh why was it time to end?
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: While media juice squeeze, sometimes just the juice worth to squeeze.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's like I enjoy it, enjoy seeing the people,
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: but you know, like you want things like that to
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: be like easy going, because not I just just coming
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: off tour like you wanted to be you know, but
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: you know, never say never though, you know, but like
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  Speaker 1: I said, juice squeeze.
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  Speaker 3: Like and I was just saying, like it's.
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  Speaker 1: Like, okay, every every every March April, you gotta set
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  Speaker 1: aside like a week.
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  Speaker 3: And you're round in the troops and like you know
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  Speaker 3: the club from all the life or like the you know,
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  Speaker 3: finding the Venu. Yeah, like you know, but well, never
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  Speaker 3: say no.
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  Speaker 4: I got some I got some relentless management managers and
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  Speaker 4: people in my on my side that probably want to
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  Speaker 4: happen one day again.
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  Speaker 2: Do you.
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  Speaker 1: How much are you watching? Like, because I feel like
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: right now, w's WW is kind of in a little rut.
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  Speaker 4: Little, it's a little it's a little way I ain't
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  Speaker 4: really watched to be honest, Like.
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  Speaker 1: The set thing kind of sucked, Like they broke up
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: the vision Ship super.
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  Speaker 3: Fast nowhere when he was hurt those.
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  Speaker 1: And I get it, he hurt his shoulder. It's like
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: could have done it, could have did a different way.
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  Speaker 3: Hurt. They've been hurt. Heeled to like champions like.
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  Speaker 1: For one hundred, like he could just flash the belt
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  Speaker 1: for three months, show up promo every every other.
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  Speaker 4: Week and like the some of the episodes be kind
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  Speaker 4: of repaired, like you could take two weeks off and
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  Speaker 4: come back on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh, how did you feel?
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: Because I feel like one of the biggest fumbles in
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: recent WW history is the Scena heel turn because the
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: moment by itself was so crazy and it was so
• 14:58
  Speaker 1: well executed, and then after that, I mean, that was it.
• 15:01
  Speaker 2: The peak was the day it happened. Man grand open
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: and grand closing.
• 15:05
  Speaker 3: Man, that was a generational I don't even want to
• 15:09
  Speaker 3: go there, let me, yeah it was.
• 15:12
  Speaker 2: It was never believable.
• 15:14
  Speaker 4: It was just bad, bro, Like they should have just
• 15:16
  Speaker 4: made him full heal, like just like.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: Switch the gear.
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: Everything stopped going to doing the kids, send Cody to
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: go and make the kids, you know, like he would
• 15:24
  Speaker 4: have got his redemption art towards the end, like it
• 15:26
  Speaker 4: just didn't feel like nothing, Like who.
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: Do you think is going to be his final? Uh match?
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: Because we still don't know.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: I think Saturday Nights Man event. Yes, that's so weird,
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: like wrestling that's so weird, Like that's not even a
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: real people rumble. I think it's because it's on NBC
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: though probably right.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: Yes, some big cock so so everybody can watch watch it. Yeah,
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: because ever since the ESPN deal happened? Whatever's been going
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: on on ESPN? I don't watch I don't know what.
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: It's so weird, right.
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: It's I don't got I like the subscription was like they.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: Got the Saudi Verse, the ESPN Verse and then the
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: regular I just it's too much.
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: I don't know, bro, I'm like, I watch it on youtubet.
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: It's like like it's hot work at It's a lot.
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: Like I tried to watch the joint on PN, like
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: logging in. I'm like, I'm logged in, Like, oh, you
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: want more.
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: Ship?
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: It was just too much going on. Man, Yeah, Like
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: I see it on YouTube and nothing even happened.
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: Nothing even happened.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: But who who? If you had to?
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: Because I thought for sure it would make sense for
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: him to to put Seth over at the end, like
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: let Seth beat him.
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: Seen it? I thought I thought that that would be
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: the most Like.
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: Is Cody too obvious of a guest?
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Well, they already wrestled.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's Cody, but he's the biggest face in
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: the company.
• 16:40
  Speaker 2: It would make sense because obviously I can't because you.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: Can't even tell who they're trying to. Maybe maybe Bron
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: break there, Maybe I don't.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: I don't feel like it's too soon.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: I don't even and then I feel like that's like
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: it would just feel like they're forcing it.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I don't even know.
• 16:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know nobody. Seth would have been the has
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: never had.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: One of them dudes to put him over yet for me,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: like if he if he beats Seen in his final match,
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: that's that's like, yeah, it makes sense.
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: Now that's out of the question.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: That's done.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: But no, I just I hope Wally India comes back
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: or or dude, even if you you got.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: To be a manager on TNA or some ship, I
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: would do that. But Tate's cooking right.
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: Now, cooking, cooking. They got some guys with it.
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: Talk to me man about working with Shaboozie on this album,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: because Shaboozi is such a generationally talented dude.
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: You guys, Yeah, now he's from the crib, from the DMV.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: So the crazy thing is that, like I wrote that
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: song like way before, like the country Boom, like you
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like, because I really wanted to
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: be on some songwriting stuff on the album, Like I
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: really wanted to be like like Blanco, like bluesy vibe,
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: So it was done, but like he like one of
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: my managers that played it for him, because I think
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: he was like in the studio off stairs or something
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: like that, and I think he liked it when he
• 17:56
  Speaker 4: heard it, but I don't even think the conversation was
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: even there. But he ended up getting on it like
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: maybe like two months later.
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: Like that fired.
• 18:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, No, he's dope. Man, that's an outro?
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: How many songs from this project? Like like did you
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: were you picking from the kind of morph it?
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: Was it like like I guess what was on the
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: coming of.
• 18:16
  Speaker 4: I cut so many songs man, Like I was losing
• 18:19
  Speaker 4: my mind, like I got too many songs, Like but
• 18:22
  Speaker 4: I just record every day. So what you'll know, yo,
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: your instinct to tell you what do you get?
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Demo itis a lot though, where you're like, man, you
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: put some ship in the're like, man, we did this
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: ship too long ago.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: It's old to me.
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Yep, yep, yep. So many songs in the vote they
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: like that happened like that.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: That might be fucking number one records.
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: You never know, Yeah, absolutely right, yeah, it's it's it's
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: the demo ightist thing.
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: I got a whole how drized that I can't find
• 18:45
  Speaker 4: him with. Probably got about thirty songs like that would
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: be that would work right now. Yeah, that's the that's
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: the that's the thing about artists, like we were slowly
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: losing our mind with this art.
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Like Yo, earlier this year you had said that Cole
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: helped you get over writer's block. Yeah, what how do
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you get over writers? What was the advice?
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Like, I can't he got got I can't give away
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: the cold information.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm saying if you have writer's block, it could
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: be like I feel like creative block in generals.
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's well, I mean I try to run, walk,
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: like do something like he said some.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: About meditating get out.
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, he's he's he's a meditator.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: But I think he tweeted it to eighty DP.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: Brain was hard. It's hard to meditate.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: With my point, like I started to go like this,
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: I start thinking about everything like having for dinner and
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: all that type of stuff.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: But now I deal with writer's block.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: I walk or I just get my driver give me
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: not just cruise for a little bit and just look
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: out thee though he to Jay, listen to some something
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: pre nineteen ninety nine.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, get some vibes going.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: What is your pre nineteen ninety nine? Go to you know, like.
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: Reading though, Like like I've been listening to so much.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: All I've been listening to like is lock Shiit CNN,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: the CNN first album, Early Cam. I was listening to
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: SD the other st is so good.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, let me know.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is the first cameraon album Confessions
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: of Fire. He's got a song, the Confession song that's
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: on there. Do you remember how insanely it.
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: Would never fly? He was about, Yeah, yeah, I don't
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: know that. I don't know what that was.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: He was like, what do they call that?
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: Incests at edge Lord he was on that.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was like that like horror core ship,
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: like with a poodle that was.
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: He was saying some wow, And I'm like, what I thought?
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: This was hors and Carriage, Like no, that was Children
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: of the Corn Camera to.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Get it out, WASSM or something.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: You know, I just saw a new story came out
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: today about and obviously there's a lot of contexts being
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: left out of the headline because they just changed a
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: lot of the prerequisites on the Billboard chart, but essentially
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: since ninety two, it's the first time there has been
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: a rap song in the top forty on Yeah Billboard's
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Hot one hundred.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: That's scary.
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: I mean, shoot, I got songs just platinum that never
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: even made it on that shot.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: So you know, it's there's there's some things.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: Hip hop is in a weird place, like but you know,
• 21:15
  Speaker 4: plays superprises, I mean it's place three games, it gets
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: to press like we played with. I think a lot
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: of us took a lot of this for granted, Like
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Like the balance of the
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: balance of like every artist having their own unique style,
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, or unique collaborations like we
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: got everything got kind of repetitive.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, it definitely felt like, uh for there's like
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: in terms of just like the commercial aspect of especially
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: male artists don't want to put because I feel like
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: like the women have done a good job of making
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: like hit records doing anything. But in terms of like dudes,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: it just kind of felt like a lot of like
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: half leaned out, non hook like motherfuckers all kind of
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: have the same melodic pocket.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a little bit. I mean, but you could
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: say that about every sub genre and hip hop. But
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: it's been good.
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: I feel like, by the way, I do think it's
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: been an amazing hip hop year quality wise, Like it
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: has been a fucking year people.
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: Everybody's been dropping Clips.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: Album, Alfredo two, Chance album.
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: Is incredible, Chance album.
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: Your album is incredible than Larry the Larry June to Change.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: Alchemist album is incredible. Him Boy Alchem is hit boy Alchemy.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: Could you do a whole album Alchemist?
• 22:26
  Speaker 3: Please? For fox sake? That just sounds like is very elusive,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: But he's not elusive. That must just be me. I
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: don't know.
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: Have you reached out.
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: We talked a couple of times. He's busy.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: You have to go to Santa Monica. This is how
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: it works. You've got to go to him right and
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: just locking and you know, take a week and do
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: an album.
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: That sounds good, sound I mean good, that sounds amazing.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: But he got like eight albums coming out, like it's.
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: Kind of crazy.
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: Eric, I do album. What's your what's your favorite rap
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: album of the year, excluding your album? That would be cheap.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: I like Central Sea Joint, I like too, I like
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: Clips Joint.
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: It's between Freddy and Clips. For me, that's close. It's close,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: though it's close.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed Dave's album.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: The New Dave album is so fucking good. It's intense,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it's and you know what, That's one thing I was
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: I yell at people because I love U K Rap
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: and I'll be driving around the car with the homies
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: bumping Dave and They'll be like, yo, man, turn this
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: ship off, And I'm like, I don't think you understand.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: This is the most vulnerable rapper on the planet.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: You know he can, I mean, and he could wrap
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: his ass off.
• 23:44
  Speaker 4: May having some pockets too, Like, I got a lot
• 23:47
  Speaker 4: of love for the UK scene, bro.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And Central c is cold, bro, Like I know, he's
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: like a superstar. Now people are looking at I'm like, nah,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: like go back. He could get off like that. Even
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: that Dave Central c ep was that.
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a sight.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: That joint going down in history on history. It went
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: five for five on that joint. It was incredible. So
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: if you have got your head what you'll have been picking.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: The year, I'll probably say, uh, I'm gonna probably say
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: Clips all Set album was like that too.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: allSome album was real good.
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: Too solid.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, got a real good album, but I'll probably say
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I'll probably say clips joint Freddy by by a short distance.
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: It is interchangeable because Freddy was doing gymnastics on that joint.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Depending on the day.
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was ribbing. He's rabbing his ass.
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Off Yeah, no off set.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I'm definitely just to get mentioned too.
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this joint. You got some joints on that.
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: Per do you when you're crafting your album and you're
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: in the studio, is it hard for you to like
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: be a fan and listen to other people ship without
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: it like kind of subconsciously, I give.
• 24:58
  Speaker 4: Most albums like people that's dropping. I'll give you that
• 25:03
  Speaker 4: that the first day come out when I'm working out
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: in the gym.
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: Then leave it alone.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Because you don't want to get like because even subconsciously
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I might, and I might, I might have like a
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: favorite two or three songs on it, and I might
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: go back to be like I don't really most of
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: my friends I don't really listen to their music like
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: that because it's like.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I want to accidentally like you know what I'm saying,
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: I'm good, but I mean I know they should good
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: because I'll give it to spend. But I'll be like,
• 25:27
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  Speaker 2: What is Uh?
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Was there a what was I guess the final song
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that kind of barely made the cut? Maybe it was
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: like getting the feature last minute on the album or
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: getting the clearance.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Uh. Probably Boozy was a buzzy beater.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: It was a buzzy beater. You feel Likeima, what are
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: we fucking doing here? I know you almost went to
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Empire hurt almost.
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: Nima and staff they always hold it down. But I
• 27:05
  Speaker 4: was a buzz beating and me and Leon buzz beat
• 27:07
  Speaker 4: the joint too.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: You got a couple of joints. Uh, you kicked it
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: like the Uh? Where is starting value of the beast?
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Are to just those are like just take them to
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: mix show, ready to go?
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: How do you pick it? Like?
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Like, are you at the point where you and the
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: label are gonna wait and see what happens with like
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: how the fans react to a record before you kind
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: of decide what the quote unquote single is? Uh?
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: I mean the music being has changed so much so
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: it's like I don't like, I mean, it'd be nice.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: The fans really really was passionate about something that's where
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: we go. But sometimes you just got to put it out,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: like you know, like I was. I was, I was
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: very I really wanted Blanco to be my first release,
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: like as like.
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: I felt you made a statement.
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: With like yeah, it's just I just wanted to show
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: songs men ship like songwriting skills like and make so
• 27:55
  Speaker 4: like something that felt real bluesy, you know what I'm saying.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: But like everything else, like you know, when the album
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: comes out, you can you can kind of feel it
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: from your fans. You can feel it like what's where
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: they're going. I listened to my monds a lot.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Do you remember when you realized you actually got Seinfeld
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: to do the mixtape like that, Like like what was
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: the feeling when you get that confirmation the call? Because
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it feels like like that's the kind of
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: thing like somebody could tell you it's gonna happen and
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, motherfucker, I believe it when it happens.
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: I mean, we had a we had a good rapport
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: before the album because of the mixtapement that was before
• 28:35
  Speaker 4: I was.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, because I mean we're coming up on ten
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: years of.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: The album, so I mean, like once once we once
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: were in the studio with him, like we're actually working
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: on it. It was like, damn, it's really going down.
• 28:45
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: I would have been like, Yo, FaceTime, Larry David, can
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: we get fame?
• 28:50
  Speaker 4: I need to give with Larry David. I think he's
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: at the University of Maryland alumni.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Man, I gotta give him.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: He's a terp.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: I think so. I think so. It sounds good now.
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: I feel like that should be the next thing. If
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: you just do like ten joints, just barring out, like
• 29:03
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• 29:05
  Speaker 4: If I can get if I can get Larry, if
• 29:07
  Speaker 4: I can get Larry, I'll go back because I said
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: I wasn't gonna go back to that series, but I
• 29:11
  Speaker 4: do it for Larry.
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: This is a big question, and I think there's an
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: obvious answer here. What shows better Curb or Seinfeld?
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Man.
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: I mean, I've seen every episode of Signfield. I haven't
• 29:24
  Speaker 4: seen every episode of Kurb.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: But.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: I think Curb probably aged a little bit better.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I think Kurb is the greatest comedy ever.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good shot my man. JB. Smooth Man.
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: I've just talked to him a couple of He's so
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: fucking good man. This is a smart that's a smart way, dude,
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: I did yo.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: The DC mount Rushmore is pretty wild if you think
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: about just overall talents. Obviously Chappelle's on there, You're on there.
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: Who else is on the d m V Mount Rushmore
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: for you? When it comes to entertainment?
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: Taraji, Marvin H.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Katie, come on?
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Uh spot his Halloween sneaker.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: That's a great question. Uh Chappelle, right, Chuck Brown probably big?
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, no, no, you said Sappell already off here, you
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. Yeah, But everybody who's on the
• 30:19
  Speaker 4: tide of the band's building?
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: Where do you feel like? We're in?
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: This?
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: Like interesting time because my favorite era of sneaker culture
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: was Lebron seven, eight, nine.
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: Ten Lebron. That was a good slobe time, right.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: Because then you had the KD four's, You had so
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: many joints that you could get off with jeans, the.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: All Star, the All Star Package, the.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: All Star, the Big Bangs, the Galaxy Is the Christmas joints.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: That was a great The South Beaches, Oh my fucking god.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: I kind of like I was pretty excited when they
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: started retroing the Lebron's because I was able to get
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: like the what the Lebron's and the big bangs, and
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: I got like the big bang Kati fours and ship
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: like the Nerve Katie fours.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: I was like, I got the weather Man's. I was like,
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I couldn't afford the weather Man's.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: When they came out and you had a run, I
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: was like, oh wait on some uh No, that was
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: two thousand and let's see. I think twenty ten was
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: when the lebron Hs dropped.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: That was for sure.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Man the red carpets and the yeah.
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: And even think about like the Quark tens. But I
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: feel like we're kind of getting to a point now
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: where obviously the running shoes are lit right now, like
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: a six and new Balance and all that, but I
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: feel like people rocking basketball shoes again. Like I just
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: was with Freddy last night and he had the John
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: rant On with his.
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: With his pants watch it, watch it happen, And I.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Mean, you're wearing the ants, right, you did that?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Hopefully you're the.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Guy you are the sneakers with jeans, dude and hip hop, Like,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: how did you feel like the basketball shoes?
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: Kind of Nike shot out the Nike Basketball, my Man
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: east Side, Frank cook Man, those.
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Good brothers over there.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those GT futures are They're.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: About to do some real good things over there. Nike basketball.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: What uh do you feel like that?
• 32:06
  Speaker 3: That?
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: The basketball shoe in general though, just as a casual
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: because I feel like you know who who also has
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: slept on shoe. Obviously he's Jerseys behind you. But Devin Booker,
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I think the books are you them.
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: Book they are? They can't plaining for me.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: They look like I'm about to go hoop and only
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: hoop like they like playing playing.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: To me, they're like very much like uh.
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: Like Air Force one. Yes, yeah, they're just playing man.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: A lot of jobs. Colorway I was I wish was
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: like mid instead of load top. But yeah, you probably
• 32:32
  Speaker 4: got the best, the best news.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: Shoot them jaws are fucking gassed.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: A lot of colorways just really fire. They spiking it
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: with the colourways.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: How are you feeling about Obviously the Commander season has
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: been interesting because h Daniel's been hurt a lot this year. Yeah,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: you have been riding Mariota last week. How are you
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: feeling about your commanders?
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: Man? Tough tough maname?
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: I lost good money by the way betting on the
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Wizards are betting against them. Yes, that fucking George. George's cooking,
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: cook the Mavericks up. But Jayden, that's my man.
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: That's like, that's my good man in Javon and Regina
• 33:09
  Speaker 4: like his whole family, like they show number h But
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: I hate seeing my dog hurt.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Man. I just hate like like he let a game
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: so much.
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: I just hate to see him like like not being
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: able to be with the team, like you know what
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: I'm saying.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: But former in Arizona State University. Great one year he transferred, We're.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: Gonna we're gonna see as we got a little bit
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: more ball to place. So let's see, y'all go.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Uh if you had to, sometimes you'll hear like people
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: say like jay z is the Michael Jordan of recording.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: Well he said that about himself. Mmm uh. Some people
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: say Lebron is like Drake. If you had to compare
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: yourself your career to an NBA player, who would it be.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't know, maybe like maybe
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: like uh, Steve Nash or something like that.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Even that's she's not bad. Two time MV people the
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: bad No, I mean.
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: MVP probably because you know I've been, like my my
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: lore is a little bit like I've been. I've done
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: more than people know, like real relief pet like you
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, Like I've done a lot more
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: than like casuals.
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: So yeah, like casuals won't get it, but the basketball
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: fans will get it. Like we'd be like, yo, now
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: you had to see Steven.
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, like a sneaky, sneaky catalog one of
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: those guys. I guess I ain't not like an algorithm
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Darling Kirk, Yeah, Dirk, see the Dirk.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, first ballot.
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: First ballot.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Yes for you, man, talk about uh, you know, I
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: do think that you have had if you think about
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: the longevity that it takes to be as relevant as
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: you've been for all these years. We talked a little
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: about earlier, about some of the sacrifice you had to make.
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: But what would you say, is like your biggest secret
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: to just staying relevant, staying relentless?
• 35:03
  Speaker 4: It ain't no secret. I just I just work, man,
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: I just I worked real hard at my job. I work,
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: and I mean I drive myself to exhaustion. I you
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: know what I'm saying all the time. So I just
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: work like I.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Just I just you feel like you treated like a job,
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: like like quite literally.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it is a job, like like like turnin things.
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: It ain't the most fun, like you know, you might
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: not want to really physically want to be outside, but
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: you really got to be outside like for your for
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: your job, like you know what I'm saying, Like they
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: do feel like a job sometimes for sure.
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: You know, early on, I remember when The Roots embraced you.
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: How big of a deal was that to get like
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: a co sign from it?
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: Was?
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: It was it was crazy, like you know, like it
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: means something to me because it's like Black Thought, like
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: one of my favorites ever and you know, just soaring
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: with Mark and jay Z like and then you get
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: off that now you're on a Roots Roots single, like
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: you know, that was that was a lot. I remember
• 35:58
  Speaker 4: we did the GQ shoot Me Breaking Cuddy y'all, like
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: they're like, yeah, I'm working with I'm working with Justin
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: Timberlay working with the Roots. You know what I'm saying,
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Like all right, but I said that you with my
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: chest like yeah, you know what I'm saying like this
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: this this is this is this is.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: A monumental thing for me right here, you know what
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: So yeah, and we're still cool to this day, man, man,
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: like we talk all the time.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: I just had Mickey Facts up here. I believe you
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: guys are on the cover together, right yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: he's on that twenty ten. Who else is on that?
• 36:29
  Speaker 5: Charles Charles Hamilton, Acehood, Cuddy, fucking Charles Hamilton?
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: Loo?
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: I think was it the biggest what if? Charles Hamilton
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: so so so.
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: Very very very talented. I remember telling like I remember
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: we was all talking like.
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I want to.
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: I had one session with him a long time ago,
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: like around that time, like playing stuff and make it
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: be like he's he was like that.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: He was like that, bro, he was like dad. I
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: remember he had that Green Lantern mixtape where he wrapped
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: over that stained joint that out on the house side
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: looking and I won't it shout out to him what.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: We were just talking about.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I just sparked up something about our Mickey Fax conversation
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: because Mickey Facts is up here.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Cook. He just had something that made me think about
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: the Mickey.
• 37:17
  Speaker 3: Facts m H.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Cover was on it that cover though, out of everyone
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: on that cover, anybody still talk to on a regular basis.
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: M hm, I mean not a regular basis.
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: But you know, like when I bumped in the eigthood,
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: like I think somewhere out of the country I forgot,
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: but I don't really, I don't think so.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: I mean I'm cool with everybody.
• 37:46
  Speaker 4: I still felt like I followed Mickey faxts, you know
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, like, I'm cool with Yeah, send on
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: my man, that's my dog, like that's my nigga. Like yeah,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: but I I don't think I've really been talking to
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: nobody on it.
• 37:59
  Speaker 3: Well, yeah, but.
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: I be I be Jiah by myself really like I
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: don't really I'm very, very very introverted now, like as
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: opposed about it.
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're pretty like uh like kind
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: of like you kind of a kind of closed off
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: to the rest of music industry and in a sense
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: like you kind of keep yourself at arms links.
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, like because once you kind of start
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: realizing what it is, like just it's not it's not
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: like I love hip hop, like business is scary, like
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: just I'm straight like.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Even like just like when you when you realize you know,
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: obviously I'm not a fucking PLATNINGU rapper like you, but
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: like when you kind of realize like you should just
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: say no to go into a lot more ship than
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: you like used to be, Like yeah, I would love
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to go to that police party.
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: Or yeah, because sometimes I feel like a task like
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: me personally, I just really can't. And it's not their fault,
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: I guess, but it's I don't like the expectations that
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: that are on us, Like like I gotta remember you
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: from two years ago in the club, and now I'm
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: a dechead because I don't remember you, Like now you're
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: gonna tell everybody while he was at anything, he ain't
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: know what. Like all those those things really irked me,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: like because it's like bro, and like I might as
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: well just stay home, like everybody pulling on you all
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: like it get a lot, you know what I'm saying,
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: It get a lot?
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: Like that was what I when we were talking about
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Black Thought because of me and Make you were I
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: asked making who the greatest?
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: If you took away all all.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Number one's plaques and you just said, who is the
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: best at rapping? We came to the conclusion that it's
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: probably Black Thought and Lupe Fiasco I.
• 39:35
  Speaker 3: Would say that loop every day.
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: I was say black dot Wayne got black dot Wayne
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: and Jay they Wayne got be in a conversation.
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: He's done.
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: He's done too many, He's done too many crazy verses
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: like to not be in it.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think Wayne. For me, it's like
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: I just it's hard for me to like ignore like
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: the last.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: I feel you, you know, I feel you. But like
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: you know how they've been saying that he's still.
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: Like they've been saying, like Russell Wilson has played himself
• 40:04
  Speaker 1: out of the Hall of Fame.
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: He can't don't don't, don't do not put that on
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: at Oh No, I'm just saying, like first ballot, he's
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: hard to remember the Seahawks days.
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Like obviously Wayne's like Wayne's Wayne.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: I mean seeing Green that was like ar wasn't No,
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: that was like three years ago, that joint crazy feature
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: that was.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: The Nickash Yeah, bb King, He's still.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Green was crazy.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: He's still He'll show you. Yeah, Yeah, he's still.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: Would you uh would you put who?
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Because today we talked about this on the radio because
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: the versus thing happening In an old quote from Hove
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: came up from like twenty twenty one where he says
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: nobody can step on the versus stage with him now
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: that it's back. I was like, I think the only
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: person who I was say it's just Kanye, It's just
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: one name.
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: And that I mean because that's awesome.
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: IM saying jay Z's my personal goat, Like right, he
• 40:52
  Speaker 4: knows that, he knows that you know me for like
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: twenty like he's my personal goat. But I don't know Kanye.
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: Kanye did like because because because like like imagine what
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: that would look like like James he could do twenty
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: two twos and go crazy and like all of the lights.
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: He got stuff that's like super like when he said
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: state in music that he meant that ship like you
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: feel me, and it's different.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: It's different.
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: Jay got a lot of but Kanye got like he's
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: his own genre type ship you feel me, like what
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: like like graduation around that time like that.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: Dude even just like flipping like the Daft punk ship
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: and like crossing like into the electric.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: But it was like, what do you.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: Play after Power?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: I don't know what you're playing?
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: If he plays power, what do you play.
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: Ja got hits though he does, but it's like you
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: you were really like the excellent, most top tier rapper,
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: like that's that's a top tier song maker like sense
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: and all this sudden like you know what, you know
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: what I'm saying, And he he broke the mold like
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: he was he was a let's take up musically. So
• 42:01
  Speaker 4: I don't know if I think they can he can
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: stand with J like for sure, but who knows, because
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: nobody ever really really wins versus anyways.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Right right, right, Uh, you're obviously a fan of this
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: ship for real. Who's the last new artist that just
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: really impressed you that you don't really have that maybe
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: you haven't met yet, or somebody who you don't really
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: have any.
• 42:18
  Speaker 4: Affiliation with O'Dell, but I mean we got a record
• 42:22
  Speaker 4: of it, O'Dell, he's continued to impress me.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: Uh, Leon Thomas Leon?
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: What about MC?
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: Who's the most recent? Ah Man boss Man di Lo?
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: I mean not really new no more? He's a baby
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: chief do it? Baby Chief?
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: Do it?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I like?
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: I like young from Chicago. Yeah, he's the kid who
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: looks like he's twelve. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is like they took some headline,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: like a little part of the interview where he said
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: he's used AI to gain help. Yeah, and like just
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: took it so much out of context.
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'm like, yo, Like.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: I'm like, why are you all messing with that? Man?
• 43:03
  Speaker 3: Let that little boy do his thing? Man Like.
• 43:05
  Speaker 4: I like his I like his style. He like a
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: little animated. No, he's he's fine. Yeah, I like, Uh,
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: what's his name? What's the kid from Detroit whose dad
• 43:13
  Speaker 4: was signed to the Juggalos Baby Tron?
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Baby Tron got some great.
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: NBA bars, funny ship, Yeah.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: A lot of and the SamArt sins though too.
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sin oh, I've seen the name. I've seen the name.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: I ain't heard this stuff. I heard about it though.
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: What's your favorite song of the album today? I'm probably
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: in the case. Tomorrow probably was different yesterday.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Uh, Belly maybe Belly, I say Belly.
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  Speaker 1: interview of all time.
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  Speaker 2: turned it down.
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  Speaker 2: Go get you a shirt. Let's get back to the interview.
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  Speaker 1: How is it that you have one of the greatest
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: wedding songs of all time and you've never been married?
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  Speaker 1: Oh the matrimony. I got married while I'm walking down
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  Speaker 1: the aisle at the end.
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  Speaker 2: After the eye does. By the way, I'm gonna show
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  Speaker 2: you video.
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  Speaker 1: I come out Leatherstone Cold dst to Stone Colds theme
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  Speaker 1: music crush the beers get married with the belt anyway,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: but we wedding ends, the matrimony plays.
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  Speaker 2: We were walking out, but you weren't married.
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  Speaker 1: So like this is a song that's gonna get played
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  Speaker 1: forever at people's most important days of their life.
• 45:06
  Speaker 4: That's that's that's such a crazy thing to think about.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, like I just you know, being in the industry,
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  Speaker 4: you make sacrifices, like you don't really realize how long
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  Speaker 4: you are for like you really don't realize it until like,
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: you know, like around at seventh eight albums, like oh
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  Speaker 4: my friends is married now kids?
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  Speaker 3: Like what am I doing? Like you know what I'm saying?
• 45:27
  Speaker 4: Like so, but also like you know, marriage, I used
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  Speaker 4: to look at it like like the people who own
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: McDonald's don't eat McDonald's, Like you know what I'm saying,
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  Speaker 4: Like that's a wild you know what I'm saying, Like you're.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: Going because they know. I know, I know too much,
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  Speaker 3: Like I've seen too much like.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: This guy's like, yeah, you know what they say. If
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you're selling dope, don't get high on your own supply.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Now I'm selling love songs again, apply dog.
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: But what was that a record where like Usher had
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: already did the hook.
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  Speaker 3: Nah.
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  Speaker 4: No, that's the genius that is Sam Due on Devil
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  Speaker 4: the Hook.
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  Speaker 3: But no, Jake one was just like yo yo yo
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: Jake one.
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  Speaker 1: Did that be like Jake White White Van Music, Jake
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  Speaker 1: one from Seattle?
• 46:06
  Speaker 4: Yes, I need one of them joints. Let's do one
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: of them joints. I'm like, I can do that.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Let's go like I was like on some Jake one
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  Speaker 1: is so fire. By the way, it's just multi the
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  Speaker 1: truth freeway, brother a fire. I didn't know he did
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  Speaker 1: the matrimony.
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  Speaker 3: Damn you.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Uh it feels like you're you're talking about specific relationships
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: on this project. On I told you my favorite song
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: on the project is I think it's track seven, Power Problems.
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: So did did you?
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Did? You said pretty much that someone broke your heart? Wait,
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: I crossed you?
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: Uh? That was not I I said it on the.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Album somewhere, But you said, essentially you were talking about
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: being double crossed and you got cheated on.
• 46:55
  Speaker 2: Did a girl cheat on you who had just got divorced?
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: Uh? That that's a little bit of art in that.
• 47:04
  Speaker 4: Oh got this, this is this, there's there's I pulled
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  Speaker 4: from somewhere real on that line.
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: So, but when you are pulling from somewhere real, I'm
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: assuming like.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: I seen I've seen that. I've seen that happen, but
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: not to you. But there's something similar happened, but they
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: wasn't married. God, So I'm pulling from over the place for.
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: You though, Like, do you like hear from people who
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: might think that records are about them?
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: Are you worried about that?
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: Really?
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  Speaker 1: Because I know you mentioned like your your baby mom
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: had like left her new husband.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: No, no, no, very much together they were fighting or no,
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: they she moved on. She She's like, there's no nothing
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: like that was a long time ago.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: I'm saying, But I'm just wondering, like when you talk
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  Speaker 2: about real.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't. I don't. I don't do anything with
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: no ill intent.
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: Of course I don't.
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  Speaker 4: And it's really my transgressions that I'm talking about.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: I don't know, it's your therapy for sure.
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: You know when when you who that kind of ship,
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  Speaker 1: like I'm sure you know people people will listen to
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  Speaker 1: the music and be like, hey, was.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: That about me? Yeah?
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: Well, I mean maybe sometimes you know, but it's my
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: like I got these my experiences.
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: One hundred percent. Do you feel like the because I
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: feel like you were very early. Obviously your your your
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: Nigerian and uh afrobeat has had such an insane pop
• 48:25
  Speaker 1: culture moment over the last like five to seven years
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: or so. As somebody who was working with whiz Kid
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: forever ago and a lot of these guys there was
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: it been to just kind of see that genre just
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: kind of I.
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  Speaker 4: Mean right, I mean I knew it was gonna happen.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: I knew it was inevitable and knew it was going right.
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: So you know, I'll be proud of seeing them doing anything,
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: man Like, It's it's a good feeling, like to see
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: them dudes do it right?
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Is there a which in your like who's in your
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: rotation right now? When it comes to the AfroB.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Chip mm hmm odeal And that's kind it's kind of
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: fro swing for real. Bern always h David with Tany
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: the entertainer Shay Vibes Randma about you. It was my
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite songs this year, Odomotive black Uh
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: even his nemesis they beefing right now black Bones. I
• 49:23
  Speaker 4: listened to both of their music.
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they got to have for bee beef popping.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: It's a little bit but I'm not gonna put the
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: black Sheriff dude, Black Sheriff tough.
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: He got a Thomas voice, real dope, real dope.
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: It's super unique.
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about your your chemistry with Binks, who is
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: also kind of carving out.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: Everything.
• 49:47
  Speaker 3: I was calling everybody do that, Drake.
• 49:49
  Speaker 2: You know what's funny is Yeah there's the wise after the.
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  Speaker 3: N Yeah yeah, but no, that that's my man, like
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: is big.
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  Speaker 1: You know I'm tripping bank Is produce it too. Yeah,
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: that's my brain's broken now.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: But no, my man, you do a lot with Yeat,
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: like you work with a.
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: Lot of did a lot of love boy, like he
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: got some shop with Freddy too like that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he liked that.
• 50:13
  Speaker 4: It's easy, easy to work with just a musical very creative,
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: like very very creative.
• 50:18
  Speaker 1: Like you have different pockets too, because like if you
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: think about like Yeat and you think about like very sonically.
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: Different, Yeah that's what I'm saying. And he do international
• 50:26
  Speaker 4: he just you just like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah for sure.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on like the new alternatives a
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: new underground hip hop?
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: It's very like things like it's like maybe like probably
• 50:37
  Speaker 4: what grunge was like classic.
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I feel like we don't have like our
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: kids don't have punk rock anymore that they got like
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: destroy Lonely.
• 50:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean, this room
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: for everybody.
• 50:49
  Speaker 2: Do you enjoy the baggy pants return?
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a fan of I got a lot.
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: Of You're a fashion guy, but but I feel like
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: Jinko's are back, like my kids.
• 51:00
  Speaker 3: Well not the extra baggy like you know, you know when.
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: We grew up like like White Trash Wars Juggerots, like
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: it was like the kids would go to Spencer's and
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: Mister Rags and they have like you know, the great
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: malinko ic pts.
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: It's always evolving. Fashion is ever evolving things, just like
• 51:18
  Speaker 4: his music is so everything.
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: I am glad that like skinny jeans are done, like
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: skinny jis.
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: Some people ain't even let it go yet, but.
• 51:27
  Speaker 2: Well I don't think.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I also think there's certain people who's size they're not.
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: They just know it's just every jeans skinny.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah you know what I'm saying.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: But I just feel like there is like this thing
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: where it's like, yo, motherfuckers, we're talking about shake Shake
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: gillis Alexander that motherfucker having them pants on bro, they.
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: Put it on.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: No he does. It's like he's like the new Russell Westbrook.
• 51:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a little out there, but you take risks.
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: That's what it's all about.
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: Though, I'm the MVP. I'm taking my fashion risk.
• 51:56
  Speaker 2: What do you think of his shoe?
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: It's cool.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I've never seen it in per saying his dedication to
• 52:02
  Speaker 4: like wearing it, like you don't only put that where
• 52:04
  Speaker 4: his shoe like to every game for real, Like you
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: don't want nothing but his shoes.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Did you?
• 52:08
  Speaker 3: Uh?
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Because I I like it when basketball players put effort
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: into their marketing or their sneaker because I think back
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: in the day when we had like a I and
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: Jada kissing. Yeah yeah, did you see the Cat Williams commercial?
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, they funny, man, They funny for that. But
• 52:24
  Speaker 4: Adds do a good job with his marketing and he
• 52:26
  Speaker 4: and his brains.
• 52:27
  Speaker 3: He's a he's a self aware.
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: He's trying to rap album.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: It's his label, it's his brother label. Yeah, I'm wanting
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: you're on it? Yeah, I got joint push your t
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: on it?
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: Oh ship?
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: Ye?
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: So his brothers are you who's rapping on it?
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: You know? And just you and on? That was being pushed.
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: It's like a compilation Hi Boy, and Sean got a
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: record on it.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: So he kind of just kind of did like his
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: DJ call, but he's Anthony.
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: Edwards and his brother be different.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: Is there an NBA player if they called and asked
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: you for a verse, you say no, I don't think
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: I Like if Lori markt In hit you and was like,
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: hey man, I know I'm stuck up here in St.
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: St.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Salt Lake City. I want to put together you know.
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: No, No, I need a ten day contract. I need
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: a ten day contract by doing a person.
• 53:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Like I feel like there's just certain players like
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to hear. You know, if Blake Griffin
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: started the Moonlight as a hip hop producer post retirement,
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: I'd be.
• 53:24
  Speaker 3: Like, nah. But some of them got that, like Javel McGee,
• 53:26
  Speaker 3: make you make.
• 53:27
  Speaker 2: Good, Javail slap by the way, Javel McGee.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: I guess it's like one of the greatest Israeli basketball
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: Where's he atwhere?
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know?
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: Falling?
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: He won a championship yea, and.
• 53:36
  Speaker 3: He go with the music had some beats, Yeah, he did,
• 53:40
  Speaker 3: he did that.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: He had the worst song on NAS's Hip Hop is Dead.
• 53:44
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, I don't. I don't know what song it was.
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: I remember I had the booklet and I was like,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: this song is trash?
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: Who did this beat?
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: And I looked and I was like, Chris Webber, damn
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: is making beats by the way all time? Great bullet on,
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: great bullet Then it was it was too short. It
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: was quick, very in and out.
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: Who do you think is the greatest Wizard of all time?
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: Or bullet?
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Actually we could that's two questions.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: John. Maybe I think it's John.
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: It's not Brad John.
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: I put John over Brad as far as like like impact.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: And also like a little bit more playoff success.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he wan this dunk contest. I mean that's
• 54:23
  Speaker 4: not not a big thing, but that's big. Like it's
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: like it's it's like we ain't ever had no listen
• 54:28
  Speaker 4: in the dunk contest that it kind of meant something
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: back then. But the year he's NBA all first scene,
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: you know, like John West.
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think after I had Bradley Bill and my
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: sons for two years, I have nothing nice to say
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: about him, even though he's probably a nice guy, a
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: good dude. He's a nice guy. I know, he's a
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: family man, with that being said John wall Over.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Bill, Yeah, yeah, John, but Gilbert Rinas, Yeah, I put
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: out gil because.
• 54:54
  Speaker 2: Gilbert at least he had the thing with Lebron go.
• 54:56
  Speaker 5: Yeah, then you got it might be on the team.
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: It was like him kron Butler Agian.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Zero was knocking everything down when when he was in DC, Like.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: What about bullet era that can go back? That's like
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: what west unseld like, I don't even know.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: Michael Jordan's was the best wizard actually, I.
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: Mean about all the jerseys. That was the time the
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: seventeens dropped, right, Yeah, the superca Yeah, super slept on shoot,
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: by the way, it is I think that was the
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: last great Jordan eighteen.
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: No, they't had the button on it like the twenty
• 55:32
  Speaker 4: threes though. I like the twenty threes a little bit.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, seventeen though, I think it's the last one where
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, like they just put you said dormbackers. They dropped.
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: Seventeen.
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: They're just white, They're like they're like dark, they're kind
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: of crazy. All right, So is this forest GT Is
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: that your sneaker?
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: No?
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: Just on the campaign for Yeah, it's gotta be kind
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: of cool. It was getting Nike after making I.
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: Want to, I want to, I want to do something.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: You're like obviously at some point with whatever I do
• 56:02
  Speaker 4: in the sneaker world.
• 56:03
  Speaker 2: But do you think you love sneakers or wrestling more?
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: Uh, sneakers? And it's not I'm not in love with sneakers,
• 56:11
  Speaker 4: like I like the cool So.
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: You take wrestling over sneakers.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: I'm not. I don't, I'm not. I'm not.
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: I ain't been watching like that lately for real. So
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: who's got the better wrestlers right now? AW or wb
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: W W at wrestling?
• 56:27
  Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on what you're watching for.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what about if you're watching for choreo, choreography a
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: heavy busting them ships, doggings that will offspring motherfucker be
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: look doing.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: Goddamn trampoline is why it's crazy?
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: No, for sure?
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: Well listen, man, I appreciate you pulling up the album
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: is incredible people, definitely. Man, when when' it's coming out?
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: November?
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: Right? Fourteen fourteenth? Ye?
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: What what is the meaning behind the title?
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: Everything's a lot, man? Like everything is chaotic right now?
• 57:01
  Speaker 4: Like go outside like DC, you got like federalis you
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: know what I mean? Like you got like you know,
• 57:09
  Speaker 4: like we got degenerate game, like young degenerate gamblers, like you.
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: Got oh yeah, because it's lid out there.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: Everything is just like everything is so heavy now that
• 57:18
  Speaker 4: the most bizarre thing can happen right now and we'll
• 57:21
  Speaker 4: forget about it by Wednesday.
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: Do you feel like the legalization of gambling is kind
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: of like turned out? It's it's like, I don't I
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: don't think it's a good West.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: You got that, and I like I'll get I'm I'm
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: gonna get money type of person. So like the game
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: is a game, but you know that's the slippery slope right.
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Then, it is very slippery because then you chase out.
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: A rough week started with the Wizards actually beating the
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: Mavericks did because because I don't think people understand like
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: what happened, Like essentially DC was like the first city
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: that this.
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: National Guard thing happened.
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and you saw some people it looked it's
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: terrible that like the army is being essentially turned against
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: its own people.
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: It's it's surreal to see. I went when I went
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: back to d C.
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: I saw I was like, how crazy is that?
• 58:13
  Speaker 3: It looks like a movie for real.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: It's I feel like we're in the middle of like
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: one of these like crazy dystopian like nineties movies, Like
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: it feels like the beginning of like Demolition Man.
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, when you know the president doing what you want
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: to do.
• 58:26
  Speaker 4: So it's it's it's like, you know, so that's what
• 58:29
  Speaker 4: that's what it Really Everything is a lot like going
• 58:32
  Speaker 4: through what I go through, like personally, like trying to
• 58:36
  Speaker 4: still dreaming big about my career, like trying to chase it,
• 58:40
  Speaker 4: get after it, like wow.
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: That's swiping and being like what do I even what
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: are we even supposed to do here?
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: How do I?
• 58:46
  Speaker 4: How do I fall in love? How do I allow
• 58:49
  Speaker 4: myself to be vulnerable to somebody?
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: Like? How do I know? You know? While like while
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: I'm so like cynical and.
• 58:58
  Speaker 2: Are you going to therapy?
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: I feel like all we all do you know, I
• 59:02
  Speaker 4: don't know if we all go to the I mean
• 59:04
  Speaker 4: mostly like you go to like I had, but you know,
• 59:11
  Speaker 4: they they scheduling and all that a little tricky.
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: Sometimes.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Have you ever tried mushrooms?
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, yesterday, nice, that's why I woke up like today.
• 59:21
  Speaker 2: Do you feel like shrooms have been therapeutic for you?
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: Sometimes sometimes be different than others. Sometimes you do some reflecting,
• 59:31
  Speaker 4: you know.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: Crazy ship is when you get in that like that,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: like real deep thought. You start thinking and then you'll
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: think about something or somebody you either ain't talk.
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: To it a bit or you and then you're like, damn,
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: I gotta call this motherfucker man. I get deep.
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: I get deep in thought and why and how? And
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: I did. Sometimes I'm all over the place.
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: Sometimes have you had a bad trip?
• 59:50
  Speaker 3: Everybody has? You know, those ain't fun.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: What is the worst trip you've had?
• 59:57
  Speaker 4: Uh? I just I think I I ain't like that
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: back my damns bond.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 3: I just was really like.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 4: Paranoid and like I ain't like it, Like I had
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: to make myself fall asleep, like to get out of there.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: You know now that I know you do you do shrooms?
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: I went to the Sphere on shrooms in Vegas. The
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: best ship I ever did in my life.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I like being around too many people, like.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 2: No go up there because you're la.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: So wait until like some I went with DJ Snake
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: was DJing and like he invited me until he had
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 1: a sweet well, I was fucking twacked. We're so we
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 1: were high at Giraft pussy up, Off the shoom, Off.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: The shrooms and I hate DM music.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't say hate hates a strong word. I am
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: not the most d m astute human being. But that
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: was the first time where I was like, oh, I
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: Oh that's what happened to me. On first I was like, oh,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: we found up.
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: I was like, I get it.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: I was up in the time man the light show.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 4: Crazy Yeah, yeah, nohot the drugs man shot to shrooms
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 4: only the ecstasy once.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: That was once for me, but yeah, too many times
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: for me. I felt delayed that ship was I was
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: shot to the anyway. That's how we in the interview,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: we talk about drugs, talking about mushrooms. The album is out.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: Everything is a lot on November fourteenth. Yep, there is
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: a lot of dope. Who was on the album A.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 4: Leon times ago deal, We got are to Day, we
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: got Odomotive, black Shave Vibes, we got Wile Flauren on it.
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: Like Chaboozy no pay Yeah.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, great album man. I appreciate you for pulling up brother.
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: Finally we did it.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: Thank my dog man, thanks for having me