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Pedophile Puppet Master Eating Dead Children?! · Cosmic Peach

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  Speaker 1: Baby, I'm a gang statue.
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  Speaker 2: It takes a little tangle.
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  Speaker 3: You don't mess with me.
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  Speaker 4: Mess with me, baby, I'm a gangstatu. Puch, baby, you're
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  Speaker 4: a game statue.
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  Speaker 5: For good warning.
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  Speaker 1: So this podcast is designed to take you outside of
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  Speaker 1: your comfort zone and make you question reality.
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  Speaker 6: Listening discretion is a vibe.
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  Speaker 7: Tukwardly fellas.
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  Speaker 2: This ain't my first time at the rodeo. Hello, and
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  Speaker 2: welcome back to the show. Thank you for being here.
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  Speaker 2: It's another beautiful day in the neighborhood and this episode
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  Speaker 2: is going to have your behle entirely clinched.
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  Speaker 3: So I hope you're ready.
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  Speaker 2: And for those of you who have been a little
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  Speaker 2: constipated lately, say bye bye to those days because aspring
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  Speaker 2: may be imminent after this episode might have a little
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  Speaker 2: bit of the bubble gets And I don't apologize because
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  Speaker 2: it must be done. I came across this story and
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  Speaker 2: I could not wait to share it with you. It's
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  Speaker 2: some of the most wild shit I've ever heard in
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  Speaker 2: all my years of podcasting.
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  Speaker 3: This is some of the wildest shit I've ever heard.
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  Speaker 2: But before we jump right on it had a lot
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  Speaker 2: lot of people asking me if I watched the New
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  Speaker 2: Netflix documentary family members mostly, but it's called Toxic Love,
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  Speaker 2: and they were building it up like it was just
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  Speaker 2: as good as Maternal Instinct, which deserved all of the hype,
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  Speaker 2: by the way. So I checked it out. It was
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  Speaker 2: just alright. I wouldn't waste my time with it.
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  Speaker 3: It was just alright.
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  Speaker 2: I give it a two out of ten. They thought
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  Speaker 2: they were gonna get me with the plot twist, but
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  Speaker 2: I seen it coming. I seen it coming. You can
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  Speaker 2: check it out if you want. You know, I ain't
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  Speaker 2: your boss or anything, but they're gonna have to try
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  Speaker 2: a little harder to get the old peach A going.
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  Speaker 2: What about current events? Current events? I don't necessarily have
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  Speaker 2: a particular clip to share or anything, but I've been
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  Speaker 2: seeing a lot of Trump this Trump that we got
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  Speaker 2: a new dump from the Epstein files, Bill Clint and
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  Speaker 2: cheeseburgertits are being flashed all around town, and I could
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  Speaker 2: do without it personally, But Trump something about a dossier
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  Speaker 2: and Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama guilty of trees, and well,
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  Speaker 2: that may be all good and fine, and I'm sure
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  Speaker 2: a lot of your panties would get wet if this
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  Speaker 2: was the case, But I do not think that Donald
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  Speaker 2: Trump is my personal lord and savior. I don't really
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  Speaker 2: tend to put any faith into the justice system, politics,
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  Speaker 2: anything like that. I know too much.
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  Speaker 3: I just know too much.
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  Speaker 2: Here's a metaphor for you. If I take a shit
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  Speaker 2: and it's hard turds instead of diarrhea, does that make
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  Speaker 2: it less shit?
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  Speaker 1: No?
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  Speaker 2: Is the correct answer to that. It's still shit. It
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  Speaker 2: might be a little bit more of an acceptable experience.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe I don't have to endure the stomach crams or
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  Speaker 2: the messy clean up afterwards, but nonetheless it's still shit
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  Speaker 2: logs in the toilet. And I can't tell you how
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  Speaker 2: many times people say, did you see this on the news?
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  Speaker 3: Did you see that on the news?
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  Speaker 2: The news people, all news networks, like eighty percent of
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  Speaker 2: them are owned by the Sinclair Group. Okay, and this
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  Speaker 2: the Sinclair Group is of course affiliated with Disney Now,
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  Speaker 2: the Sinclair family. You may know this already, but there's
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  Speaker 2: some weird motherfuckers they you know. I hate to bring
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  Speaker 2: up the Da Vinci Code, but he put a lot
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  Speaker 2: of true stuff in there. The San Claire Saint Clair
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  Speaker 2: sen Claire group, they think they can trace their lineage
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  Speaker 2: back through the mayor of ingine line to some kind
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  Speaker 2: of a offspring of Jesus and Mary Magdalene, and that
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  Speaker 2: they have magic in their blood and most likely they
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  Speaker 2: grind babies up into little tiny chunks and eat them
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  Speaker 2: for breakfast. They practice dark magic and sorcery, and they
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  Speaker 2: own most of the news, So I don't tend to
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  Speaker 2: follow anything from the news. I know you're me Ma
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  Speaker 2: and pee paw, then mau mao and Pa. How they
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  Speaker 2: still watch the news, and that's fine. Sometimes I just
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  Speaker 2: want to take the little head and shake it and
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  Speaker 2: give them shaken elder syndrome.
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  Speaker 3: But we won't do that.
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  Speaker 2: We'll just let them have their fun, their times almost out.
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  Speaker 2: Let them watch the news if they want to. But
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  Speaker 2: you should know better. You should know better. Did you
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  Speaker 2: know that? Until nineteen seventy seven, there was this thing
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  Speaker 2: called the Fairness Doctrine, and it enforced the the news
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  Speaker 2: all news networks cover both sides of every issue and
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  Speaker 2: be nonpartisan, non biased, fair news coverage. They also had
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  Speaker 2: to submit any documents they used to be checked for accuracy,
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  Speaker 2: and they had this like sixteen minute cap on commercials.
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  Speaker 2: They could only show sixteen minutes of commercials. Their documents
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  Speaker 2: had to be checked for accuracy, and they had to
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  Speaker 2: report both sides of the news. This was all part
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  Speaker 2: of the fairness doctrine and it was abolished in nineteen
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  Speaker 2: seventy seven and the Sinclair Group took over the news media.
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  Speaker 2: And you see what we have today. It's completely contrived.
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  Speaker 2: A lot of it is staged. We don't even know
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  Speaker 2: what we're getting half of the time. But maybe a
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  Speaker 2: me Ma and Peepa and Papal and mam mao. They
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  Speaker 2: watched the news when the news was good, good news,
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  Speaker 2: and the fairness doctrine was still in place. But it's
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  Speaker 2: been quite a while since news was good news, and
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  Speaker 2: we have to rely on sources like the Cosmic Beach
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  Speaker 2: podcast and other platforms to get actual, real reliable information.
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  Speaker 2: And that's why I'm here, and today is no different.
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  Speaker 2: I got a story for you and it is gonna
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  Speaker 2: blow your bee hole totally out. Oh my god, when
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  Speaker 2: I tell you, I couldn't believe it. I couldn't believe
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  Speaker 2: I hadn't heard of this before. But you learn something
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  Speaker 2: new every day, and that is why you're here. I
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  Speaker 2: haven't done a Pothecary corner in a month of Sundays,
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  Speaker 2: but I just am so excited about the topic today,
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  Speaker 2: we got to get right into it. So thanks for
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  Speaker 2: being here, Thanks for being born, Thank you for being
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  Speaker 2: listeners and supporters of the Cosmic Beach podcast. Are you
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  Speaker 2: ready to jump into story time? But before we begin
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  Speaker 2: to storytelling, a little question for you. Anyone watch any
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  Speaker 2: like faith based kids TV shows growing up? I'm a veggie,
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  Speaker 2: tells Gal myself. I don't know if any of you
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  Speaker 2: watched any faith based kids shows. Apparently they started a
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  Speaker 2: game popularity as far back as the nineteen sixties, with
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  Speaker 2: one of the most renowned being Davy and Goliath, which
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  Speaker 2: premiered in nineteen sixty one. I never watched it. I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure somebody in my family probably did. Or maybe you, Yes,
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  Speaker 2: you watched Davy and Goliath. There was a lot of
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  Speaker 2: them though. When I was growing up, I you know,
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  Speaker 2: my mom had me subscribed to some kind of a
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  Speaker 2: subscription tape and every month they'd send me a new
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  Speaker 2: VHS taped some kind of little cartoon telling a Bible story.
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  Speaker 2: But it all started back in the sixties, and that's
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  Speaker 2: where our story starts. Let's talk about the first faith
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  Speaker 2: based kids TV show, this Davy and Goliath. It's centered
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  Speaker 2: around the main character, Davey Hanson and his talking dog Goliath.
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  Speaker 2: During each episode, Davy would have to face some moral
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  Speaker 2: dilemma and he would use religion to navigate his way
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  Speaker 2: through it. The TV show was a total hit, and
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  Speaker 2: over the years, several more religious based TV series would arise,
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  Speaker 2: shows like The Donut Man, Salty, The Song Books, Praise Parties,
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  Speaker 2: and Get This One, Mother Goose Gospel, just to name
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  Speaker 2: a few. But in my opinion, there's almost no way
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  Speaker 2: to do a Christian kids TV show, right, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they're so this, they can tend to be so goofy.
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  Speaker 2: I did watch movies like The Prince of Egypt growing up,
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  Speaker 2: Joseph King of Dreams and stuff like this, But a
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  Speaker 2: Christian kids game show, I don't know. They tend to
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  Speaker 2: be a little bit goofy. And of course I've said
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  Speaker 2: in previous episodes, my dad would get high on crack
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  Speaker 2: and decide to do a little Bible time on crack
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  Speaker 2: and regale me with the most disturbing stories from the Bible.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes kids just don't need to be here and about stuff.
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  Speaker 2: There's a time and a place, a time and a place.
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  Speaker 2: I think we can save the sodom and Gomorrah story
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  Speaker 2: for at least preteens, but no, no, I got the
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  Speaker 2: full download six years old, sitting they're learning about Sodom
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  Speaker 2: and Gomorrah. I don't recommend it, but anyways, contrary to
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  Speaker 2: my opinion, these shows were extremely popular with religious households,
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  Speaker 2: and actually there are likely many of you watching right
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  Speaker 2: now who have your very own memories of shows like this.
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  Speaker 2: Another very popular religious series was called Joy Junction, which
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  Speaker 2: first aired back in nineteen seventy nine. Sheriff Dawn was
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  Speaker 2: the host, and throughout each episode, the child audience would
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  Speaker 2: get to participate in various activities, and a large cast
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  Speaker 2: of zany characters would use scripture to teach lessons. Hopefully
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  Speaker 2: there was no Bible story on crack involved. I wouldn't
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  Speaker 2: recommend it. The kids seemed to really love the interactive
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  Speaker 2: nature of the show, and they even had a puppet
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  Speaker 2: named Marty, who the kids absolutely adored. The series ran
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  Speaker 2: for decades, with its final episode airing in two thousand
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  Speaker 2: and five, but reruns of the show would continue to
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  Speaker 2: air until the early twenty tens, and then one day,
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  Speaker 2: without explanation, the show disappeared from the network. Now, Joy
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  Speaker 2: Junction is rarely even talked about. In fact, aside from
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  Speaker 2: a few episodes uploaded by users on YouTube, any trace
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  Speaker 2: of the show is extremely hard to find. But why
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  Speaker 2: would anyone want to scrub such a well loved, popular
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  Speaker 2: kids show from existence? Anyone? Anyone?
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  Speaker 3: Buehler, Buehler.
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  Speaker 2: It's called pedo economics. Pedo Economics. This show has all
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  Speaker 2: but completely disappeared.
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  Speaker 7: Why.
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  Speaker 2: As I hinted around about just a second ago, Joy
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  Speaker 2: Junction had a predator on set. And this predator wasn't
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  Speaker 2: just lurking in the background either. This person was actually
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  Speaker 2: one of the most beloved characters on the show.
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  Speaker 3: So before we get.
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  Speaker 2: All the way tit's deep into this story, little trigger
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  Speaker 2: warning for you. This story is extremely, extremely bizarre, it's
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  Speaker 2: extremely creepy, and I do want to give a warning
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  Speaker 2: that this one's pretty hard to listen to at certain points.
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  Speaker 2: But you know where you are, you know who you're
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  Speaker 2: listening to. This is the Cosmic Beach Podcast, and we
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  Speaker 2: don't play Patty Cake over here. Welcome to the most
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  Speaker 2: politically incorrect podcast you'll ever listen to. Thanks again for
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  Speaker 2: being here. Let's continue. So Joy Junction was a Christian
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  Speaker 2: TV series that first aired in nineteen seventy nine on
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  Speaker 2: CTN or Christian Television Network. George Junction was the name
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  Speaker 2: of the make believe town that the characters resided in,
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  Speaker 2: and this show was essentially like a variety show. They
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  Speaker 2: would have a live audience made up of mostly children,
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  Speaker 2: and throughout the thirty minute episode, children from the audience
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  Speaker 2: would be asked to come up and answer questions and
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  Speaker 2: participate in various games. The show was created by Don McCallister,
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  Speaker 2: who also played the main character in the show, Sheriff Don.
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  Speaker 2: Sheriff Don was the host and he would be in
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  Speaker 2: charge of of refereeing the various activities throughout the show.
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  Speaker 2: They had another character named Professor Claude Hopper, and Professor
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  Speaker 2: Claude Hopper was an inventor and he was always creating
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  Speaker 2: stupid little gadgets and little contraptions, and he was also
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  Speaker 2: known to be a little bit scatterbrained. Then there was
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  Speaker 2: Ron and his puppet Marty, played by Ronald William Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Marty the puppet was supposed to be a young boy
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  Speaker 2: and Ron would always be offering up advice and helping
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  Speaker 2: him navigate his way through the troubles that kids sometimes have.
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  Speaker 2: And Ron would use the Bible as a reference for
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  Speaker 2: the advice.
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  Speaker 7: That many times the Lord wants to talk to us,
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  Speaker 7: he doesn't have a telephone though, Oh no, no, no.
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  Speaker 2: Then there was Whitler Dan, and Dan was like a
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  Speaker 2: hillbilly uncle who's always telling stories, spinning yarns, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: Then there was Pastor Wilson who was played by Joseph Smith.
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  Speaker 2: No relation to the Marmans. He's black, they wouldn't have
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  Speaker 2: had him and anyways, he was the joy Junction Pastor
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  Speaker 2: and he would come in throughout the episode with a
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  Speaker 2: word from the Lord. And then there was Pat Hewn
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  Speaker 2: and his character was the resident artist in joy Junction
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  Speaker 2: and he would use his drawings to illustrate that episode's
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  Speaker 2: biblical lesson. Then we have last, but not least, Deputy
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  Speaker 2: Less and he was Sheriff Don's rat hand man. They
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  Speaker 2: did have one woman cast member on the show. Her
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  Speaker 2: name was Darcy Wilson, and they also had at least
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  Speaker 2: one child actor on the show named Sarah, But for
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  Speaker 2: the most part, the children kind of cycled through episodes.
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  Speaker 2: It was they just pick random kids from the crowd.
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  Speaker 2: But the main point of the show was to teach
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  Speaker 2: biblical lessons in a child friendly way, Like.
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  Speaker 3: There was one.
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  Speaker 2: Episode that centered around using bad words, and throughout the episode,
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  Speaker 2: each of the characters would use their own unique style
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  Speaker 2: to teach the children why using bad words is so
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  Speaker 2: sinful and believe it or fucking not.
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  Speaker 3: I must have missed that episode.
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  Speaker 2: But there's also an episode where they discussed dirty pictures, like,
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  Speaker 2: I guess if your friends try to show you a
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  Speaker 2: dirty picture, this is what you should do, which is
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  Speaker 2: fucking creepy to talk about on a kid show. Okay, again,
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  Speaker 2: this is one of those topics where it's like there's
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  Speaker 2: just no right way.
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  Speaker 1: To do it.
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  Speaker 7: And when I got over there, I noticed some of
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  Speaker 7: the kids for kind of giggling and laughing, you know,
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  Speaker 7: and I wondered why they were doing that, Well, why.
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  Speaker 4: Were they doing it?
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  Speaker 7: Well, they said, Marty, come over here and take a
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  Speaker 7: look at our pitchers.
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  Speaker 4: So I walked on over there and I took a look.
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  Speaker 7: And do you know what it was?
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  Speaker 3: What was it, Marty?
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  Speaker 4: Why it was in Arizona.
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  Speaker 7: I'll tell you that right now.
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  Speaker 2: Ron.
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  Speaker 7: They were looking at some dirty pitchers and they wanted
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  Speaker 7: me to look too.
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  Speaker 2: The show originated in Clearwater, Florida, but It eventually was
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  Speaker 2: picked up by TB in the Trinity Broadcasting Network, and
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  Speaker 2: this gave the show a broader reach and actually the
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  Speaker 2: TBN Trinity Broadcasting Network could be an entire episode on
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  Speaker 2: its own. There are tons of conspiracies and controversies rounding
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  Speaker 2: the trent Tity Broadcasting Network, but like I said, that's
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  Speaker 2: for another show. So, like I said, this show is
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  Speaker 2: a major hit, especially within religious households, and children from
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  Speaker 2: all over the world would tune in each week to
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  Speaker 2: see what the Joy Junction characters were up to and
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  Speaker 2: hear that week's spiritual listen and you know listen. I'm
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  Speaker 2: a nineties baby, I know all about bizarre children's shows.
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  Speaker 2: I grew up watching the.
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  Speaker 8: Likes of Zaboomathy Vegetales, The Wiggles, all grown men spending
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  Speaker 8: lots of time with small children, and nobody seemed to
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  Speaker 8: be concerned about that.
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  Speaker 2: But anyways, Joy Junction ran for twenty six years, and
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  Speaker 2: the final episode aired in two thousand and five, but
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  Speaker 2: reruns would still air on TV in It was in
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  Speaker 2: twenty twelve Joy Junction went off the air for good,
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  Speaker 2: no explanation, no announcement, It was just there one day
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  Speaker 2: and gone. The next, the network no longer wanted any
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  Speaker 2: association with the joy Junction brand because they found out
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  Speaker 2: one of the cast members had been hiding an extremely depraved, dark, twisted,
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  Speaker 2: putrefying secret, and it was in twenty twelve that that
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  Speaker 2: secret was revealed to the entire world. Now we're going
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  Speaker 2: to tangent for a minute, if you can hang with me,
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  Speaker 2: and then we are going to bring it all the
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  Speaker 2: way back around and blow the tits off this case
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  Speaker 2: and just a moment, so come along with me. We're
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  Speaker 2: going to a tangent for just a second, and then we'll.
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  Speaker 3: Come back around.
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  Speaker 2: So the downfall of all of this started in twenty
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  Speaker 2: ten when Homeland Security Investigations launched Operation Holitna. This operation
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  Speaker 2: centered around identifying victims of child pornography, and it started
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  Speaker 2: in Boston, Massachusetts, but eventually it expanded internationally. Agents would
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  Speaker 2: scour image after image, paying especially close attention to any
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  Speaker 2: items that might be found in the background of these images.
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  Speaker 2: They would then use the clues from those background items
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  Speaker 2: to try to pinpoint where that image may have originated from.
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  Speaker 2: The operation kicked off with the arrest of a forty
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  Speaker 2: seven year old man named Robert Douga Robert was a
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  Speaker 2: Sheridan hotel manager in Milford, Massachusetts. He was married and
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  Speaker 2: had three children of his own, and he was also
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  Speaker 2: a heinous predator with a sick obsession for babies and
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  Speaker 2: very young children, and he had amassed an extensive library
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  Speaker 2: of child pornography. Robert would engage with other pedophiles online
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  Speaker 2: and these pedophiles would exchange child pornography images with one another,
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  Speaker 2: and one day Robert made a little mistake by sending
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  Speaker 2: one of those images to an undercover agent posing as
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  Speaker 2: a predator in the forum, and after a forensic search
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  Speaker 2: of his devices, he was found to have more than
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  Speaker 2: twenty thousand images and videos of child pornography. So agents
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  Speaker 2: decided to take a closer look at some of the
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  Speaker 2: images that they found on Robert's devices to see if
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  Speaker 2: they could figure out who some of these children actually were,
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  Speaker 2: and they noticed that in some photos of young boy
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  Speaker 2: there was a specific stuffed bunny, like a cartoon character
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  Speaker 2: stuffed bunny, and investigators managed to pinpoint the part of
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  Speaker 2: the world where this particular bunny was known to be
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  Speaker 2: a popular toy item, which happened to be the Netherlands.
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  Speaker 2: Agents in the US contacted the agents in the Netherlands,
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  Speaker 2: and they confirmed that this bunny was popular there. Also,
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  Speaker 2: the sweater that the victim had on was unique to
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  Speaker 2: a specific store in Amsterdam, so on a hunch that
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  Speaker 2: the photo might have originated in the Netherlands, the agents
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  Speaker 2: released an edited version of the photo to the public
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  Speaker 2: to see if anyone could recognize this victim, and within
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  Speaker 2: just a few hours a person came forward saying that
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  Speaker 2: the boy in the image was their son. The perpetrator
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: ended up being a daycare teacher in Amsterdam, seven year
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: old Robert Mickelson, and he had a massive library of
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: child pornography, and he also confessed to sexually assaulting dozens
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: of children during his time working at two different nurseries
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: in Amsterdam between February of two thousand and seven and
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: January of two ten. In total, it's estimated that Mickelson
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: has at least eighty five victims.
• 24:34
  Speaker 5: It stands out in operation of what we're almost proud
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: of in the operation is the is the beginning where
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: one image that depicted a very minor child holding a
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: rabbit that was tremaine to the Netherlands. Victim was unknown
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: to National Center for mis Exploited Children and an investigator
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: in Amsterdam Police department recognized that that sweater the child
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: was wearing and the doll was germane to primarily to
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: their country, and there was a decision made by the
• 25:05
  Speaker 5: authorities to put that image out on national TV to
• 25:09
  Speaker 5: try to identify the unknown victim.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: And within an hour or.
• 25:12
  Speaker 5: Two, the grandfather of the victim called his daughter and
• 25:15
  Speaker 5: I said, I think that's your son that's depicted there.
• 25:17
  Speaker 5: And then soon thereafter the Amsterdam police kicked down the
• 25:20
  Speaker 5: door and they arrested Robert Nicholson's who worked at a
• 25:23
  Speaker 5: daycare center in Amsterdam, and he had upward at least
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: eighty seven victims over the years that he worked with children.
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: And it was through the data and the open sources
• 25:34
  Speaker 5: that we use led us to other violators.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: And as Operation Holtna progressed, the team discovered that these
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: pedophiles were using online Yahoo Messenger chat rooms to discuss
• 25:48
  Speaker 2: their shared interest in children and exchange child pornography. A
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: Yahoo Messenger chat room like nothing even on the dark Web,
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: just your everyday, average basic ass Yahoo chat what the
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: fuck like They're not even trying to hide it. But anyways,
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: one of the chat rooms that they came across. Was
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: especially disturbing because the users were talking about not only
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: brutally sexually assaulting children clencher beehols people you might spray,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: they were also talking about mutilating them, killing them, ripping
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: them apart, and eating them. And within this chat, investigators
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: found one hundred and twenty child pornography images that all
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: depicted the same three boys. And these images were absolutely horrible.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: I won't go into much detail about the photos, but
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: I do want to mention two in particular because they're
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: relevant to the cannibalism aspect.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Of these fucking chats.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: So one of the images showed a baby toddler who
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: was nude and in a roasting pan inside of an oven,
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: and the other photo was basically the same image, except
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: this time the oven door was closed. And so investigators
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: are thinking that if they can figure out who these
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: boys are, they might be able to find out who
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: took these photos. So the search is on, and after
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: meticulously combing through each image, they spotted a clue hidden
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: in the background. There was a water bottle in the
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: background of some of the photos, and the water bottle
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: had a unique logo on it with the words Midwest Aquatics,
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: and there was also a phone number that started with
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: a nine to one to three area code. This came
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: back to a swim and scuba shop called Midwest Aquatics
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: in Overland Park, Kansas. And so investigators head to Kansas
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: and they started going to all the fucking schools in
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: the area in an attempt to figure out who these
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: children are. Eventually, some teachers at an elementary school in
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Johnson County were able to identify all three victims. They
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: were eleven, eight, and two years old at the time
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: that the photos had been taken, and one of those
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: victims was able to lead investigators to the person responsible,
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: thirty eight year old Michael Arnett of Roland Park, Kansas.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: Turned out, Michael had been hurting children for years, and
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Michael had been involved in the production and distribution of
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: child pornography and he would share that child pornography with
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: fellow predators, sick ass mutated motherfuckers in the Yahoo chat room,
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: and a major talking point within that chat was in fact,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: cannibalizing children and babies, and that is why Michael had
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: taken those photos of the toddler in the oven. He
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: was sharing that photo with the other depraved ass, disgusting
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: mutants of the chat who also had fantasies of devouring
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: kids and babies. All of the children were still alive,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: thank god. Michael hadn't actually cooked any of them. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: one of the boys was actually the son of Michael
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Arnett's closest friend. They had been friends for like fifteen
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: fucking years. People, they were literally besties, and this little
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: boy would actually spend weekends at Michael's house along with
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: several of his cousins. Now get this shit. The boy's
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: mother said that she had no clue that any of
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: this was going on. She said she completely trusted Michael Larnett.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: In fact, when police first told her what was going on,
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: she didn't believe them. See that's what I mean when
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: I say some of you is don't have a good intuition.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And by the way, if a cop or police officer,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: a detective, anybody showed up at my door came to
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: me as something like this ever had and had a
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: photo or video proof, okay, even if it was my
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: own family members who I love more than life itself. Okay,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: they're dead. You understand it's going to be good bye?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Earle.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: If I ever catch wind of something like that, Oh,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: you found naked pictures of my son getting turkey basted
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: on my brother's computer, say less, I don't give a
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: fuck who it is. I cannot believe the audacity of
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: this woman. I don't even believe you, Michaels, the dragon
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Burns and Bernon, Hell, bitch, I cannot believe that somebody's
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: got a stand up for these babies out here. People
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: can't even count on the mama.
• 31:16
  Speaker 3: To do what she's supposed to do.
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Anyways, Michael had been doing this stuff for years people,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: and I don't think that we'll ever actually know how
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: many victims he actually has. He was arrested for the
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: production and possession of child pornography. But it gets so
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: so much worse. Once the news started reporting on Michael
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: Arnett's arrest, one of his victims came forward with a
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: horrific account of his experience with not only Michael, but
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: another predator, thirty nine year old Robert.
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: Poe the Third. Here's the story again.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Clench the bee hole in preparation, because this is an
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: aspray inducing variety of a tale. So back in the
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: late nineties, Michael had been a volunteer for a nonprofit
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: that provided medical care and social services for children, because
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: of course he did, right, and part of his duties
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: in the organization was to drive a van around to
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: take these children to and from various locations to receive
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: medical treatment or whatever else they needed.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Oh God, here it comes all right.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Now, This is how he met this particular victim. This boy,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: who was ten years old at the time, had a
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: brother who had cystic fibrosis. He was a fucking cystic
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: fibrosis patient. And that's why they were involved in the
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: non profit organization. And Michael saw an opportunity and seized it.
• 33:01
  Speaker 2: He used his position as a volunteer to gain the
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: trust of the ten year old boy and his brother,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: and he started the grooming process right away. Michael talked
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: to the boys, He pretended to care about the boys,
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: and the boys eventually started to think of Michael as
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: a friend, you know, someone they could actually trust, which
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: is exactly what Michael wanted. He was even eventually allowed
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: to start taking the boys on little weekend getaways, and
• 33:37
  Speaker 2: then after he had their full trust, Michael introduced them
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: to friend and fellow predator Robert Poe the third and
• 33:50
  Speaker 2: as disgusting as Michael Arnett is, as awful as putrefying,
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: as diseased, as demon possessed, mutated bubonic plague, ass son
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: of a bitch, motherfucker of a.
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Person he was.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: According to the victims, Robert Poe was much much worse
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: because he was actually the more violent of the two.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: If you can imagine that once Michael brought Robert into
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: the picture, this is when the abuse really started to
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: go down. And keep in mind that one of these
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: boys is suffering from cystic fibrosis. You know what the
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: fuck is cystic fibrosis? By the way, let's look, let's
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: do a share screen here. I'm just gonna do a
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: share screen. Cystic Fibrosis is an inherent, inherited, progressive genetic
• 34:55
  Speaker 2: disease that chiefly damages the lungs and digestive system. Causes
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: the body to make thick, sticky mucus that blocks airways.
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh god, oh god, what's that say?
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: What is cystic fibrosis? Life expectancy?
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: Okay, we'll let you lease. You can make it to
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: you about sixty six? Oh god, oh boy?
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: What five symptoms of cistic fibrosis persistent cough, lung infections,
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: poor weight gain, greasy stools, salty tasting skin. Do we
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: have images? Oh boy, oh boy, oh.
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: Ooh ah, look at that right there.
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: Ooh oh, I rebuke these demons in Jesus' name.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Anyways, all right, these two men would occasionally take the
• 36:01
  Speaker 2: boys for little weekend trips to Missouri and Oklahoma, and
• 36:06
  Speaker 2: the abuse would happen during these trips, and Robert Poe
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: was extremely violent with the boys. It would often hold
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: a gun to their heads and force them to perform
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: sexual acts on him at gunpoint. Oh my god, and
• 36:22
  Speaker 2: the one with the cystic fibrosis can't even breathe anyways, Oh,
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: let me get right with the Lord before I continue
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: with this story.
• 36:33
  Speaker 3: Hang on a second.
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: Let me just because my stomach okay, praise, praise, Okay.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: Just how to get right for a moment. All right.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: So these brothers were put through absolute hell, and they
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: were terrified to tell anyone what was happening. And just
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: knowing what Robert Poe is capable of, I'm going to
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: assume that he was threatening it the boys' lives not
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: to tell anyone, Okay. One of the victims later said
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: that they grew up thinking that being sexually molested was
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: just a normal part of life, which is absolutely gut
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: wrenching people. Needless to say, Robert Poe was found to
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: be one of the people in that Yahoo messenger chat
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: with Michael Arnett, and the things they discussed were completely
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: and absolutely horrific. They talked extensively about what they wanted
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: to do to all these children, that they had photographs
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: of very young children and in some cases infants. They
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: wanted to abduct and torture them and then kill and
• 37:55
  Speaker 2: eat them. Cannibalism again was a major talking point this
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: chat group. Robert Poe was arrested in twenty twelve, not
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: long after Michael Arnett was arrested, and after the news
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: broke about Robert's arrest, yet another victim came forward and
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: said that Robert Poe had been his babysitter, oh Lord,
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: back in two thousand when he was only seven years old,
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: and he had done the same thing to this child.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: He had held a gun to his head and forced
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: him to perform sexual acts on him. But get this shit,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: that child actually did tell his parents and they did
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: go to the police. But after a very short investigation
• 38:43
  Speaker 2: into the matter, police said they couldn't find any evidence
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: that they felt was sufficient enough, and so nothing was done.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: A lot of these sichos are protected from on high people.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: And don't you forget it, and just think if something
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: would have happened back in two thousand, if they would
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: have done fucking anything, how many more victims could have been.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: Spared from Robert Poe the third.
• 39:17
  Speaker 7: But so.
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: After Michael and Robert had been arrested, investigators just kept
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: digging into the cannibalism chat. They are one by one
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: unmasking the people involved in the Yahoo chat group, and
• 39:33
  Speaker 2: these people were spread out all over the United States.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: In November of twenty twelve, agents arrested a fifty seven
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: year old New Jersey man named Robert Muka. Robert had
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: also been one of the people active in that forum
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: with Michael Arnett, and when agents caught up with Robert Muka,
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: he had tons of child pornography on his computer and
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: he also ended up confessing to luring a fifteen year
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: old boy across state lines so that he could sexually
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: rape and assault him, and he also confessed to inappropriately
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: touching hundreds of other children over the years. He also
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: had an erotic fascination with cannibalizing children, which is why
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: he was involved in that chat group. Forty two year
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: old Jason Scarcello from Anderson, California, and sixty seven year
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: old Richard Dates of Grant, New Mexico were also arrested
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: in connection with that chat. Both Scarcello and Dates were
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: found to have child pornography images and extremely disturbing conversations
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: with Michael Arnett about plans to abduct, assault, rape, and mutilate,
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: kill and eat babies as young as two years old,
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: and once they were caught, all of the men basically
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: said the same thing regarding the stuff they had said
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: in those chats, that they never actually planned to abduct, torture,
• 41:12
  Speaker 2: a need babies. It had all just been a shared
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: fan to see that they would have never acted on.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Robert Poe eventually pled guilty to crossing state lines to
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: abuse children, and he was ultimately sentenced to two hundred
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: and thirty five months in federal prison. Michael Arnett was
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: sentenced to thirty years in federal prison and ten years
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: of supervised probation. Richard Dates received a ten year sentence
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: and was paroled in twenty twenty one, but he got
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: in trouble again when he was found with child pornography
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. See when are they going to
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: learn death is the only answer to this problem? Please Lord,
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: if you could just see fit to send all of
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: these mutant motherfuckers to Idaho, Please loa swing low send
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: them to Idaho. Anyways, Jason Scarcello received an eight year sentence,
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: but investigators were not quite done. Amongst the pages and
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: pages of chatlogs found on Michael Arnett's computer, they came
• 42:31
  Speaker 2: across another screen name that led them to this man,
• 42:35
  Speaker 2: forty year old Jeffrey port Way. Jeffrey had been talking
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: to Michael Arnett about kidnapping a child. He actually wanted
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: Michael to kidnap a child for him and deliver them
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: to him so he could imprison them, assault them, rape them,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: torture them, then kill and ultimately eat them. The others
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: claim that they would never have ever actually done the
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: things that they discussed in the chat, but when police
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: raided Jeffrey Portway's house, what they found told them that
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: he was absolutely planning to carry out his fantasies. During
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: the search of Jeffrey's home, investigators discovered a homemade soundproof
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: dungeon in his basement where Jeffrey planned to keep this
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: unknown child imprisoned, doing unspeakable things to them before killing
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: and ultimately eating them. This was truly a house of horrors.
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: Agents found a coffin. They found butcher's kits, scalpels, and
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: castration kits in the dungeon. The news clip that I'm
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: about to show you refers to a can's this man
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: who was asked to kidnap a child. That Kansas man
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: is Michael Arnett.
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: Wester Man has been sentenced to more than twenty six
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: years in a federal prison on child pornography charges. Prosecutors
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: say Jeffrey port Way had more than twenty thousand images
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: of child porn. Authorities say he had asked a Kansas
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: man to kidnap a child so he could torture the
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: child and then eat and rape the child, and a
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: soundproof dungeon in his basement. Port Way never got hold
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: of any children, but he engaged in online chats with
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: individuals about child porn and trying to get a hold
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: of children. The soundproof dungeon was hidden between two locked
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: doors in his basement, along with a child sized homemade coffin.
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: By the grace of God. Port Way was never able
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: to get a hold of any children, but he engaged
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: in online chats with individuals about child porn and trying
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: to get a hold of children. The soundproof dungeon was
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: hidden between two locked doors in his b along with
• 45:01
  Speaker 2: a child sized homemade coffin, And of course they found
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: tons and tons of child pornography images on Jeffrey Portway's devices,
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: and they found chat logs between Michael and Jeffrey. In
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: one of those chats, Jeffrey said, that's all I have
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: to live for. I'm serious, It's the only thing that
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: gets me up in the morning, in reference to his
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: plan to do all of these fucking horrific things to
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: a child. Again, thankfully, no children were actually harmed as
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: far as we know, but there's no doubt that if
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: Michael would have made good on his promise to kidnap
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: a kid for Jeffrey, he would have absolutely one hundred
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: percent followed through with his plan. You bet your life
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: on it, baby. Jeffrey pleaded guilty and was sentenced to
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: twenty seven years in prison, but agents were still not done.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: There was one more person associated with that chat group,
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: and this individual went by the screen name you e.
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Lime investigators ended up going to Yahoo with a subpoena
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: to obtain the information for the person associated with that
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: screen name, and that led them to a fifty seven
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: year old man from Largo, Florida named Ronald William Brown.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: And if you look real hard at this photo here, people,
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: you might recognize this motherfucker from the beginning of the video.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Ronald William Brown was also known to thousands of children
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: as ron and the voice of the puppet Marty in
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: the beloved Christian children's TV show Joy Junction. It turns
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: out that Ronald Brown was a predator and he had
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: been having sick, twisted, fucked up fanas of doing horrific
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: things to children dating back to his days on the show.
• 47:06
  Speaker 2: Of course he did right, and after his time on
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: the show, Ronald busied himself with continued work with children.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: He was now living in a trailer park in Largo, Florida,
• 47:18
  Speaker 2: and he would volunteer to do puppet shows at local
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: churches where he would be surrounded by tons of young children.
• 47:27
  Speaker 2: He also drove the church van God Bless where he
• 47:31
  Speaker 2: would take children to and from church. I cannot believe
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: we'll get into it, and he owned a puppet shop
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: called Puppets Plus, putting him in direct contact with dozens
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: of children every single week. Some of Ronald's neighbors seemed
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: to have a feeling that something was off about him
• 47:53
  Speaker 2: even before he was arrested. He frequently had neighborhood children
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: over to his house and they would come over just
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: to hang out with him. Where the parents, Where the
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: fuck are the parents? So sometimes he would give them
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: a ride to and from church, and at least once
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: a week, Ronald would go and get a bunch of
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: hot and ready Lil Caesar's pizza and invite all the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: neighborhood kids over for a lit pizza party. What is this,
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: tongue in cheek pizza party? Cheese pizza party. So the
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: neighbors thought that it was kind of weird for a
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: fifty something year old man to constantly have all these
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: young children over at his house, But they never could
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: have imagined all of the sick, twisted fantasies that were
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: constantly playing through Ronald's mind. No one asked any questions.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: Everybody was okay letting their kids go over for a slice.
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  Speaker 4: Seggan was disgusted, but not surprised by the allegations, saying
• 49:04
  Speaker 4: for years her neighbor has spent an unusual amount of
• 49:07
  Speaker 4: time with children, the puppeteer, taking kids with him to
• 49:10
  Speaker 4: church and also hosting pizza dinners at home for groups
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: of young boys at least once a week.
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  Speaker 7: They'd come with their bikes and their skateboards, and they'd
• 49:19
  Speaker 7: hang out waiting for him to come home.
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: Just like the others, Ronald had fantasies of kidnapping and
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: assaulting young boys. He also wanted to kill and eat
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: young boys. But Ronald also had a fetish for dead children.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: He had tons and tons of child pornography of children
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: being bound and tortured on his devices, and he also
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: had hundreds and hundreds of photos of dead children. Investigators
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: also discovered photos of a young boy who had attended
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: Ronald's church. This boy's name was Andrew, and he had
• 50:02
  Speaker 2: died of a brain tumor, and Ronald had in his
• 50:06
  Speaker 2: possession multiple photos of this boy sick in the hospital
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: and also photos of his dead body at his memorial service.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: They also found a flyer for a missing child, and
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: a blow up sex doll dressed in little boy's clothing
• 50:24
  Speaker 2: was also found in his trailer.
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  Speaker 9: The fifty seven year old puppeteer is accused of crimes
• 50:29
  Speaker 9: against children. Authority say Brown had pictures of boys with
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: their hands and feet bound. Brown's already appeared in federal court,
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: where detectives say he admitted to chatting with another man
• 50:38
  Speaker 9: online about cooking children and eating their remains.
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  Speaker 7: I'm just very disgusted and I think that's something really,
• 50:47
  Speaker 7: this is just uncalled for. I want to see justice.
• 50:51
  Speaker 7: I want to see justice.
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  Speaker 2: Some of the chat logs between Ronald and Michael Larnett
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  Speaker 2: revealed that Ronald was asessed with a particular young boy
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  Speaker 2: from his church, which was the Gulf Coast Church in.
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  Speaker 3: Largo, Florida.
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  Speaker 2: This boy is only referred to as C in court documents,
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  Speaker 2: and Ronald would talk about C with Michael all of
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: the time. He would detail all of the horrendous, terrible
• 51:26
  Speaker 2: things that he wanted to do to him and then
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: ultimately killing and eating him. And in August of twenty eleven,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: there was a text message between Ronald and Michael Arnett
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: where Michael asked, any luck with your boy, and Ronald
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: responded no, I still want to eat him though, Oh
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: my god, And just keep in mind that Ronald is
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: a puppeteer at this church, which is just creepy as hell,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: all right. He is also driving the fucking church van,
• 52:06
  Speaker 2: and he is coming in contact with tons and tons
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: of kids every single week, and all the while he
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: is planning and fantasizing about raping them, murdering them, and
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: eating them. Ronald would sometimes secretly snap photos of Sea
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: while they were at church, and he would send those
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: photos directly to Michael Arnett, and together they would talk
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: in great detail about what they wanted to do to see.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: They would talk about.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Wanting to kill him, cook him, and eat him and
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: in all the different ways they would like to do this.
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: And during one conversation, Michael Arnett described eating a three
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: year old girl. And just to be clear, no one
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: has ever found a official evidence that Michael actually killed
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: and at a child, but this is what he was
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: telling Ronald. And in response to Michael describing eating this
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: little child, Ronald said, you're making me hungry. There were
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: also conversations where Michael would send child pornography images of
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: children being snuffed by their abductors, and Ronald would talk
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: about wanting to do the same thing because of how
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: hot it would be. I'm leaving out a lot as
• 53:36
  Speaker 2: far as the conversations go, because I just can't bring
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: myself to say some of this stuff out loud. But
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: the chats are out there if you really want to
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: know exactly what was said, but I don't recommend it.
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: And Ronald actually did correspond with Jeffrey port Way as well.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Remember Jeffrey the one who had the built in soundproof
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: dungeon in his basement with these scalpuls and the castration
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: kit and wanted Michael Arnett to kidnap a boy for
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: him to torture, rape and kill. Yeah, Ronald is talking
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: to him as well, and he's also sending him photos
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: of c at church. Ronald was obsessed with this child,
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: and investigators also discovered that Ronald had a profile on
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: a website called Cute Deadguy dot net, and under the
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: interest section of his profile, he wrote quote I love
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: them young and dead. I enjoy them fresh, but I
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: like to see them displayed in their caskets too, end quote.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: And he also wrote about how he had been interested
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: in committing necrophilia since he was a child, and like
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: I said, these fantasies had been going on for a very,
• 55:06
  Speaker 2: very long time. Investigators found a journal where Ronald would
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: keep a daily account of the children that he was
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: coming into contact with and all of the sick, fucked
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: up fantasies that he had, and what he wanted to
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: do with these kids and the intries. Well, they started
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: back in nineteen seventy eight, a year before Joy Junction
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: first aired. So that means that during the filming of
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: the show, as young kids were sitting around him listening
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: intently to whatever Marty and ron had to say about
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Jesus all that time, unbeknownst to everyone, Ronald's brain was
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: full of the most vile, depraved desires anyone could ever imagine.
• 55:52
  Speaker 10: You see these documents is from the United States District
• 55:55
  Speaker 10: Court here out of Florida. There are details on these pages.
• 56:00
  Speaker 10: Is that I don't care if you're a grown adult.
• 56:01
  Speaker 10: I'm not going to read them to you. They're just
• 56:03
  Speaker 10: that stomach turning. These papers were filed in the arrest
• 56:07
  Speaker 10: of this Florida man who used puppets to entertain children
• 56:11
  Speaker 10: birthday parties, schools on television. He is Ronald William Brown,
• 56:15
  Speaker 10: and he is accused of possessing child pornography and conspiring
• 56:18
  Speaker 10: to kidnap a child. That's not all. He allegedly told
• 56:22
  Speaker 10: investigators he had a fantasy about kidnapping, killing, and uugh
• 56:28
  Speaker 10: eating a boy from his church. The discussions he allegedly
• 56:33
  Speaker 10: had online go way beyond fantasy. Investigators say they also
• 56:36
  Speaker 10: found child porn and a missing child flyer in Brown's home.
• 56:40
  Speaker 10: This is a guy. Keep in mind, parents trusted enough
• 56:43
  Speaker 10: to let their kids attend pizza parties at his house.
• 56:47
  Speaker 2: They're all probably passing his house every morning and every afternoon,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: and some parents aren't home from work yet, or some
• 56:53
  Speaker 2: of them have left for work, and they're sending their
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: kids on and they're not knowing at all.
• 56:57
  Speaker 10: Not only that video of one of brown Stevie appearances
• 57:00
  Speaker 10: this is now surfaced online. It is strikingly creepy in
• 57:03
  Speaker 10: light of all of this. Take a look, They.
• 57:05
  Speaker 7: Said, Marty, come over here and take a look at
• 57:07
  Speaker 7: our pictures. Saw I walked on over there and I
• 57:10
  Speaker 7: took a look, and do you know what it was?
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: What was it, Marty?
• 57:16
  Speaker 7: When I was in Arizona. I'll tell you that right now. Ron,
• 57:20
  Speaker 7: they were looking at some dirty pictures and they wanted
• 57:23
  Speaker 7: to lead a look too.
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: It was later discovered that local police had actually pulled
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: Ronald over for a traffic violation years before his arrest,
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: and during that traffic stop, the officers noticed that there
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: was a pair of little boys underwear wedged between the
• 57:39
  Speaker 2: seats of the car, and when the officer asked why
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: Ronald had children's underwear in his car, he claimed that
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: they actually belonged to one of his puppets.
• 57:51
  Speaker 9: Check with the Pinellas County Sheriff's Office on that, they
• 57:53
  Speaker 9: told me Brown's name has popped up in three reports,
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: but none leading to an arrest. In one call, the
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: Sheriff's office tells me that during a traffic stop, a
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: deputy spotted would appear to be a child's underwear wedged
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: in a seat. Brown told the deputy it was clothing
• 58:06
  Speaker 9: for his puppet.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: So let me ask you where the underwear actually for
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: one of his puppets. We do know that he had
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: a sex doll that he did dress up like a
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: little boy, and some of his puppets were also dressed
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: up like children, But the more likely question is did
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: they belong to a victim? And as far as I
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: can tell from the research, we have no physical proof
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: that Ronald ever acted on any of his fantasies. But
• 58:36
  Speaker 2: he still has victims. All of the children in the
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: child pornography that he had in his possession, the unsuspecting
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: kids at his church that he obsessed over like sea,
• 58:47
  Speaker 2: and the poor child who had a brain tumor sitting
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: there in the hospital, and pictures of him in his casket,
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: and all of the neighborhood kids who thought of Ronald
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: as just a friend when really he was a perverted,
• 59:02
  Speaker 2: sick pedophile with a very disturbed, twisted mind, using them
• 59:07
  Speaker 2: for his own sick pleasure. Ronald claimed that everything he
• 59:13
  Speaker 2: said in the chat was just a fantasy and he
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: would never actually hurt anyone. In the end, he pleaded
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: guilty to eight counts of possession and receipt of child pornography,
• 59:25
  Speaker 2: and he was given a twenty year sentence. Ronald William
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: Brown died in prison in twenty twenty at the age.
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: Of sixty five.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Rest in hell for all of eternity in the Lake
• 59:41
  Speaker 2: of fire. And that's the story, folks. It's like I
• 59:46
  Speaker 2: always say, these predators will come in the name of
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: one God or another. They will become your children's best friends.
• 59:54
  Speaker 2: They will be your children's teachers, your children's youth pastor,
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: and they're actually sick, twisted, fucked up pedophiles just waiting
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: to get their mits on your baby boys and girls.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: This is an absolutely horrifying, disgusting world that we live in,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: and I'm reminded of it all the time with stories
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 2: like this. And I want to say a quick prayer
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: before we wrap up, because episodes like this way really
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: really heavy on my heart and it's hard for me
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 2: to shake them off. In fact, it takes a long
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: time for me to shake them off. So I don't
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: need to know what particular religion you subscribe to. If
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: you're not into prayer, skip ten seconds ahead in the
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: episode and we'll catch back up from my final thoughts.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: But if you're interested, everybody, let's just take a moment here,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: because the greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: humanity that he didn't exist. These people getting involved in churches,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 2: these people getting involved in faith based children's TV shows
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: to pray upon our children, and I just pray to
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 2: God every single one of them gets exposed in Jesus' name.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Let's just say quick prayer.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Heavenly Father, please bless each and every listener to this
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: show and give them peace, the kind of piece that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: only you can give. Lord, and please touch each and
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 2: every nameless, faceless victim that is going through horrible traumatic
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: abuse like this. We know that it's happening all the time, Lord,
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: and we just ask and pray that every single one
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 2: of these pedophile monsters, mutated, disgusting, depraved individuals will be
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: brought forward into the light and they will be exposed
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: for all of the atrocities against humanity and children. And
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: we ask that you bring healing to the bodies and
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: the minds and the spirits of all of these nameless,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: faceless children we may never know. And we pray for
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: the spiritual hedge protection around our children, around each and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: every person listening to this podcast right now. Bring your
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 2: light upon all of us in Jesus' name, and we
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: rebuke this dark, depraved, demonic spirit, and we ask that
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: you protect us and guard us and guard our hearts
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: in Jesus' name.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 8: Thank you.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: So my final thoughts, keep your babies close, don't trust
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: just because it's some kind of a fucked up church
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 2: organization that they're going to be safe. And by the way, way,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: if you've got some crackheaded fifty year old weirdo that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: plays with puppets in your neighborhood. I don't recommend allowing
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: them to go over for a pizza party. What is
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: going on in the minds of these parents I will
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: never understand. But that's today's show. I hope you enjoyed it,
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: and you know, I do realize that God has a
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: sense of humor because he made people like me, so
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 2: excuse the F bombs. I'm sure it doesn't mix well
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: with the prayer time, but that's just how our brobaby,
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: And either you like it or you leave it. But
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I love each and every single one of you. Thank
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: you for supporting the show. I hope you got a
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: lot out of today's episode. I'm sorry if you need
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: to change your panty drawers, but I warned you and
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: take care of yourselves, watch your babies, and I will
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: catch you on the next one.
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