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C.R.E.A.M. · Boundary Corner Podcast

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But Brian, we've got to know the enemy.
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Let's tell the truth about Saturday.
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A win. A win.
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Again, what is that? Wait, what is that?
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We had had one since on Thanksgiving weekend last year.
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You know, Hokies take care of the Wofford Terriers by a final
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score of 38 to 6. What went well?
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We won, Brian. We we got to win.
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There's there's a nice little one in the the left hand column
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there. Yeah, I mean that, that that's
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really it. And I think, you know, we went
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out there and I don't think we looked great, but I, I think we,
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we, we. Never looked?
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Go ahead. What were you going to say?
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One play that looked great, Kumari Copeland, is set to look.
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Great. Oh yeah, right.
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Oh yeah. I mean, Kumari Copeland is is
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showing that he is the the real deal.
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He is legit. He is the guy we thought he is.
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He's not just a weight room warrior.
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He is going out there and making some noise on that defensive
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line and making plays in general.
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So I'm excited about that. I think I think the, you know,
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the defensive line is definitely been the overall stand out,
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especially I think the interior, which is probably what we were a
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little little more concerned about.
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But they've they've fleshed out and they've they've looked
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really good really for the duration.
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I think, you know, we've got some question marks elsewhere on
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the defense, but those guys have shown out, showed up and, you
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know, I'm excited to see if we can take some of that
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consistency and a little bit of that positive.
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You know, it, it was, it wasn't a a pretty win, but it wasn't an
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ugly win. It was just, it was just a win.
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But if we can take some of that momentum into the NC State game,
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it's true, 'cause you get a little confidence with the win.
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There, there's always confidence brewing.
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I'll tell you the other thing that I felt like went well and
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into that a confidence perspective was how many people
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played on offense. 8 different ball carriers, 11 players with
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receptions. Now don't look at the the couple
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of them, don't look next to it. They're next to the name for the
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yards. Couple of them got negative or
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very little. But to me it's that shift to
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basically say we're not going to stick with something.
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We mentioned the loyalty piece. If we think you can play, we'll
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go out and play. And this was a game to do that,
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right? Well, it's a game you have to do
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that. And I, I was hoping that we were
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going to be able to get to some of these guys earlier, you know,
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particular at the quarterback position.
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But we didn't. And ultimately, but we, we did
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get a lot of guys involved in the backfield in the wide
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receiver position. Yeah.
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So we, we got to empty the chest a little bit.
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We probably didn't get to empty the chest as quick as we would
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have liked, but again, a wins a win.
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And I think there are some positives to take away from this
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game. You know, I think there's
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positives from a fan base perspective.
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You know, I, I was happy to see, as much as I was concerned about
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it, I was still happy to see folks show up for that game, for
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the for the stadium to look mostly filled.
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I know it wasn't a sell out, but you know, there wasn't an
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embarrassment in the stands like I think a lot of people were
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expecting. And I think some of that is the
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fact that there was movement after ODA.
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So there there was stills like, OK, well, you're, you're, you're
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doing something. You're, you're, you're, you're
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getting the ball rolling on what we need to do and where we need
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to go with this. We'll come out of here.
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We're we're we're going to stick with you and, and see this thing
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through. So, yeah, I, I, I, I, I don't
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really have a, a lot of done a ton of, of, of what went well,
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but I think enough went well where you maybe get a little bit
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of confidence going in the NC State.
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I think that's important. Yeah, because you know what went
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well, there's always what went bad and a we did not cover and
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because, you know, great teams cover.
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But I think the struggle with me and again, the way I watched
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this game, had a birthday party going on, had baseball going on.
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I'm I'm listening in in the car, I'm following my game.
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I get back home, I watch a little bit of it here.
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I come back, I watch some condensed version, I watch some
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other version. I was all over watching this
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game made my head spin. But what pissed me off and this
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is where I get so frustrated and it seems like it's a lot with
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this team is we get inside the 10 and we and we stalk if we had
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not stalled the first drive of the game where we go for it,
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which I'm fine with going for it.
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That's fine. Points off the board.
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There's more stalls later in the game when I think John kicked
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what like a it was like a 20 yard field goal something.
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Like that? Yeah, 20 yard field goals being
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you were inside and that's just, that's just frustrating because
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it's like this is a FCS team. You should be able to push it
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into the end zone. Yeah, and I think, you know,
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you, you talk about the stall drives and that's, it's not just
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something that reared its head in this game.
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That's been a problem for this team all year.
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It it, it's, it's been a problem for a few years.
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And when we look back, I mean, we, we talked about, you know,
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for all of Tyler Bowen's faults, the, the one thing he wasn't
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afraid to do was he, he understood that we weren't a
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good red zone team And he'd, he'd dial up some funky shit to
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get us in the end zone when we got in the red, red area and,
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and the scoring area, it didn't always work.
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It was very boom or bust. But at least he wasn't afraid
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to, to dial it up and see what happens because we have been
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very poor at completing drives. And it's not just the short
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yardage stuff. It's really everything like
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once, once the area to work with gets condensed, we do not do a
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good job of just imposing our will offensively.
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Mentality talked about that last week too Toughness, man, I know
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this one I wish Tally was here but he's not I know Tally texted
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you me. You kind of agreed with it.
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There were times, though, still we look sloppy.
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We looked undisciplined on both sides of the ball and I don't
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think that's something that's just going to change.
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I think that's something we have to live with this year.
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This year, yeah, absolutely. You know, I think there are,
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there are things you can do to improve as the year goes along,
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but it's going to be kind of incremental.
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It's not going to be night and day.
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You're not going to all of a sudden wake up and Oh, well,
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we're no longer sloppy and undisciplined.
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Like there's, there's going to be, you know, incremental steps
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as you can take throughout the year, whether it's better,
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better practice habits, you know, whether there's something
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new implemented during practice that, you know, puts an emphasis
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on, you know, certain types of, you know, whether it's
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penalties, whether it's false starts, things like that.
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Yeah. Speaking for myself, I mean all
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false starts. Are they they shouldn't.
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They shouldn't happen, man. It it it Paul starts to be your
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all mental. It's all mental.
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And if you if you aren't able to handle the mentality at this
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point in time, I don't know what to do with you.
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It's true. So.
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Yeah. All right.
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Last thing, you already mentioned about the backup
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quarterbacks getting to play up and maybe that's just they're
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trying to build Karen's confidence up because he is
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going to be the guy. I think he, I think Pop and
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Rangel should have got time in the 3rd and the 4th.
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I think the game was well in hand but at least they played
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because a lot of kids did not play.
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Now Montgomery was straight up with it and he didn't mention
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which kids which I am fine with, but he said some of the guys out
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were injury concerns. Other guys they are having the
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portal red shirt decisions with and it was it was big names on
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here, biggest being Caleb Woodson and Quinton Reddish,
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Sherrod Coble, Christian Ellis, Caleb Brown, Taki Heath, Johnny
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Garrett, Keelan Adams, Chan's yeah, Brody Cornerstaller and
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Sherrod Henderson. And and to me that's and I'll
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say it's bad, but the statement that Montgomery made after was
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not bad because it wasn't just they're working through some
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things or some things are going on.
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But he just straight up said he didn't tell you who.
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Some people are hurt and some people were having talks with,
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but it sucks in that it's it's happening.
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Well, we, we know it was going to happen and like, like, you
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know, as we said, we were talking with Evan just a little
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while ago, like we don't know what these, what are actual
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starting line UPS going to look like this week because of those
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discussions, right? Like we know what the depth
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chart is, but we don't know how many of those players are going
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to be available. You know, it's, it's one of
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those things that you expect with a coaching change.
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What you're concerned about is that do you have enough guys
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behind them to go out there and be competitive?
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Because I think that's what we want to be the rest of the year.
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We want to be competitive in these games.
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We want to show that, you know, there's fight in the in this
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team, that there's fight to, you know, put the best product out
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there that we can. As we work through the remaining
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games on the schedule, I think the expectations for anything,
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even even a bowl, are really out the window at this point.
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It's really about just going out there and being competitive week
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in, week out and let the chips fall where they may.
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And, and, and I'll make this safe if we make a ball.
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First of all, Philip Montgomery is not going to be the head
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coach unless he literally wins out 9 + 1 + 13 in a row.
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That's the only way he becomes head coach.
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But if he gets the team to a bowl, there is going to be AG5
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school, maybe even a lower level P5 school, P4 school.
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I think he gets a call if we make a ball, but I'm not
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foreseeing that. I, I, I don't feel like that's
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happening this year. Let's go real quick, Brian.
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Anything that you weren't prepared for when you started
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watching the game or I can't remember if you were watching
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live. No, you were on travel so you
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had to watch the recorded version and on anything when you
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started seeing like. Interesting.
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I I was surprised that we didn't take more calculated risk with
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the football in the passing game.
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There were, there were a lot of taking what we were given.
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And I get that, you know, they're, they're, they're,
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they're making sure that they're not getting beat deep.
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I get that. But at the same time you got to
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work the intermediate area, you got to be able to push the ball
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down field. I felt like there was a lot of
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check downs, particularly the running backs, a lot of running
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backs involved in the offense, which isn't a bad thing, but I
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feel like there was yards on the field that we surrendered.
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Because you know, when we look at the way this offense is
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running right now and it has run under Kyron, is that there are
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periods where Kyron is maybe a little too risk averse.
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And then when he feels like he needs to press, he presses and
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and does too much and takes too many risk with the football.
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And we haven't really been able to find that happy medium where
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those risks are calculated. Those risks are within the
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framework of the offense, but they're still good plays to make
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because as long as you're accurate with the football, it's
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a safe throw to make as long as you put it on the right spot of
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the receiver. Well, Speaking of that something
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and this, this came from Shelton.
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Shelton messaged this to us and he couldn't make the show, but
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he said mention this some of the he did make some good RPO
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throws. He was accurate with the check
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downs. He gave just about on most of
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his check down throws. He gave everybody an opportunity
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to get a field especially PJ Prelo a couple times.
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But the question is can he do that as we get to a higher level
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in as much as Evan talked about, you know, their struggles, it is
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a better team in NC State. So with that, but I think
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something I noticed Brian and I asked you to look at it, there
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were a. Little bit of wrinkles.
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A little bit of different formations, a little bit of
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different way the wide receivers were lined up, which we have not
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seen in the first three weeks. Now, I don't know if that was
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because it was Wofford or is that because the head coach is
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now the offensive coordinator. But I did notice that and and I
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don't know what that means. That could just be something
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they've been working towards, right?
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I mean, you used to mention there used to be plays you guys
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would have and you'd you'd work on it for like a month and then
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finally pull it in a game. Yeah.
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I mean, you're going to have these plays that either are
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you're kind of setting up for a particular defense that you see
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on your schedule. It could be that.
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It could be you want to add in some new wrinkles as you move
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throughout the year because you want to give different teams
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different things to see on film. You want to have a little
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something up your sleeve that every team you're playing hasn't
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seen. So you're usually going to have
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one play or one formation, or yes, running, running the same
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plays out of a couple different formations or with different
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motion. You're going to see those things
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get implemented as the season goes along just to give you a
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different looks and and make sure that, you know, folks
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aren't able to Telegraph what you're trying to do just because
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they watch the film. So I mean, Wofford's a good,
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good way to put put some of that out there because you can kind
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of run a test run of some of these new things without, you
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know, as much pressure on you to to execute.
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And so, you know, seeing some of those play out, OK, I think
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that's that's a good thing. Obviously, now they're on their
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own film. So NC State gets to watch that.
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But hopefully we got a couple new things up our sleeve that
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Montgomery's going to pull out and we can we can take advantage
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of that porous defense down there in Raleigh.
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Yep. So again, we will see that
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Brian, let's do this because I, I don't know if Tyler's going to
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jump on or not. What's your key Saturday?
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Yeah, it was a good seeing Gabe out there.
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It'd been about a year. That was a good I was, he took a
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good angle, got a good chase down tackle there.
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I, I, I like seeing him getting some action in there.
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That was really good. Really, really, really happy for
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that kid. You know, regardless of what,
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you know what happens, you know, after the end of the season,
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Good to see him getting out there and, you know, doing his
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thing. Man keys, man keys.
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You're going to have to score points.
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This this isn't going to be a team that's going to go out
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there and you know, like a South Carolina and, and put up, you
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know, a, a, a low 20 number. I think this team is going to
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hit 30 against our defense. So we're going to put up some
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points. All right, I'm, I'm kind of with
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you on that. I, I, I don't think we can
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completely stop Hollywood's mothers.
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It's limit to big ones though, you know, they're really good,
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10 to 20. If you tell me the biggest 1 he
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got all night was in that range, I feel better about our chances.
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Especially you start getting into the 20 to 30 to 30 to 40,
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more than 40s. Those are just killer.
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So that's my thing. Limit the big plays.
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Unfortunately, unless they told you, they did not tell me what
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they thought. So I'm going to leave Shelton
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and Tally's predictions off board.
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I'll go with mine first. I do think we compete better in
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this game, but with the way the offense is played for most of
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this season and the way NC State's offense has played most
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of the season, I just can't see us keeping up.
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I think they either they jump on us early.
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I think it's a we, we lose back 12, I say 3523.
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And it all depends on the mentality of this team.
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Could we stand there and trade blows until the fourth quarter
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and then maybe they get a couple late scores?
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Yeah. Could they just jump out on us
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early out of OODU? Yeah.
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But I I, I cannot see a win in this game.
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Yeah, I don't see a win either. I'm in the same ballpark as you.
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Give me give me 3627. I think I think we'll we'll
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we'll score some points. I don't think that's a very good
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defense. I don't think they're
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significantly better than even what we saw with with Wofford
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based on obviously talent is there talent is much better.
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But I think Wofford is a more sound defense and and definitely
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we're playing not to not to get beat on the big plays against
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us, whereas I think we'll be able to hit some big plays on NC
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State with that inconsistency. We'll just have to see if we can
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have enough compared to what they'll be able to get on our
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end. 100% All right, Well, Brian, let's get to some of the
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news and notes before we jump into big screeners here.
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And it all started Saturday morning.
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I don't know how you heard it or when you heard it, but we got
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some of the news we kind of been expecting.
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And to Virginia Tech's luck, it was on college game day and
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that's where Pete Thamel basically said there was an 50
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million coming down for Virginia Techs in the athletic funds.
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It's stuff we had felt is going to be coming down based on the
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WIT meeting back in August and everything transpiring.
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But then lo and behold, few days later, everything shout out,
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Doug Bowman, Andy Bitter, Colby, everybody who was getting that
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stuff. And I know you've got it up
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here, Brian, but you heard it Saturday, you see it a few days
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later. You know the BOV means a week
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from yesterday. What was just your feelings just
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looking at all that information? I mean, you love seeing the
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commitment. I'm, I'm hoping that we're able
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to see all of this through, but seeing the commitment and seeing
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the. We are dedicating and and
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focusing on reaching 200 + 1,000,000 over the next 4 fiscal
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years. You know, starting with fiscal
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year 27 will be above 200 million, getting to 190 in
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fiscal year 26. This is a big deal.
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It, it puts you in a very competitive space, not only in
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the ACC, but looking at a national product.
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It, it puts you to very competitive space in that, in
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that front as well. In, in a space we really haven't
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been for a very long time, 15 years, 15 years.
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And really in terms of being this competitive, you know,
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probably going back to when Beamer had flirtations with UNC
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and the, you know, the allocations that he got as a
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result of that is probably the last time we would be this
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competitive nationally on a financial front.
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So that's exciting. As we said earlier, I think
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we've got the money now where we can go out and get get a coach
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both from a financial commitment and from a structural commitment
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that you won't turn us down like we had a bunch in the last, last
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go round. So yeah, I'm excited about this.
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I think, you know, when you look at the numbers and you look at
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kind of where things are are heading, it's the exciting time
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and you know, Speaking of exciting times.
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Speaking of. Jonathan Tally.
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What's going on, brother? Oh my God, you're rubbing his
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head. What is going on?
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What you what you learn tonight. Nothing yet.
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I didn't learn a damn thing. Oh.
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My God. I didn't learn nothing is is we
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do we got a coach yet or we got a.
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Bruce Arians went on McAfee though, so you know.
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Yeah, I'm saying a little bit about that.
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We. Just talking about the money
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right now, talent, that's what we didn't got to.
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We didn't talk about the money and how much.
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Basically Brown was just going, how excited he was about we're
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finally being for real about this.
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I know Jim you put in there, Jim said.
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It should have been done five years ago.
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I agreed at least, but. You know what, what did you feel
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when you start seeing the numbers and it's like
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190,000,000 / 200 million knowing when you start getting
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into that, you're up there in the upper echelon of the ACC and
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probably top 25. In Investor 25, yeah.
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I know it's just like, you know, when you first start hearing
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about it because you know, I mean, I ain't saying we
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insiders, but we may hear about some stuff a little bit more
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than it's put out or before it's put out.
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So when you start hearing about it, it's not like you doubt the
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people that's talking with you. But at the same time, it's like,
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I've been down this road so many times with Virginia Tech.
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I don't believe it until it's like pen on paper.
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You know what I'm saying? I see some concrete and then
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once you start seeing some things really start getting into
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motion. It's like what, where is it
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being like, what, what are we waiting for?
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Why we been, we should have been doing this like we just never
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capitalized on our moments. You know what I'm saying?
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Never capitalized on our moments.
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So don't want to seem ungrateful, but it's like, thank
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you for finally doing something. And I, I said, even when Frank
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left, because I, I was in the, you know, the maybe the
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majority, excuse me, minority when Frank was here, just like,
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man, we got to get a new coach. We got to go a new route.
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We got to try something, then Forinte came, then probably
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came. And it's like whenever a legend
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leaves, sometimes it takes a while to get that, to get it
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right. You know what I'm saying?
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I'm thinking with how bad things are being and how we are still
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perceived, they finally said, OK, if this is going to work, if
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we're going to capitalize on the games, we got to put some money
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into this and we got to take it serious.
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So I don't want to hear about no coordinator hires.
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I don't want to hear about no secondary.
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Like we got to swing for the fence and you know, maybe get a
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triple. We can't hit no single or no
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double though. We got to got to at least get a
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triple with it so. Well, hold on.
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You joining us later. I just got to put this in here
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just for you, for my man Andretti.
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Oh Lord, we don't. You know what a people people
24:32
been talking about saving. I just seen his name pop up
24:35
everywhere. You got to understand though,
24:37
man, like he had the job, he was at Alabama.
24:41
Why would he just go back to college football to coach?
24:44
Like he's done everything. He is the greatest.
24:48
So even if he, I mean, he has to win a championship wherever he
24:52
goes, you know, I don't know if Nick wants to do it.
24:54
I think he left because of NIL, you know, So I don't think that
24:58
he wants to have to deal with that, and I don't blame him.
25:01
So you got to go with the new way when you got to find
25:04
somebody who is going to be able to coach #1 but it's going to be
25:09
able to, you know, get the most out of Blacksburg, too.
25:14
Yep. A. 100% you know the one thing I
25:17
I watched it, I didn't watch the whole Bruce Arians interview,
25:20
but I watched that clip that has popped up seemingly 100 million
25:23
times in the last day and Bruce talking about we're getting the
25:27
general manager, then we're going to find the coach.
25:29
Well, that's first of all, finally that's the right way to
25:31
do it. We got the person who's going to
25:33
be running the the money side of it has got to be the person who
25:37
hires because they've got to be able to work hand in hand.
25:40
But also this, I think the way we're setting it up, you
25:47
mentioned coach. I think it's going to take a lot
25:52
of that pressure off of a head coach to be, oh, you got to be
25:57
the NIO guy. You got to know how much money
25:58
they're going to get. You got to know their value.
26:00
You got to do all this shit and having that.
26:03
I don't think we're going to get Nick Saban.
26:06
I'll say that right now. Few weeks from now, we'll let
26:08
y'all come on and y'all speak to people.
26:10
We'll keep a tally of how many y'all think savings coming.
26:13
But I think that might be one of the biggest sell points if we
26:16
set this up right. Listen, are you going to have to
26:19
go shake hands, kiss babies, all that stuff?
26:21
Are you going to have to go into high schools and meet kids and
26:23
make sure they're OK and meet families?
26:25
Absolutely. That's your job as a head coach.
26:28
Are you going to have to go over the top with that shit that that
26:31
you've had to do for the last 40 years of college football?
26:35
Right. In this era, maybe not in this
26:39
era, if you got the structure right.
26:41
Listen, you you're going to have to close some deals, you're
26:44
going to have to shake some hands.
26:46
But your primary job is going to go go coach, go coach this team
26:51
to the best possible athletes. Yeah.
26:55
Yeah. And I mean, in the new age, talk
26:58
about money or talk about this like it, it really doesn't take
27:03
as long as it used to to build a team, you know what I'm saying?
27:08
Or just again, I talked about Florida State and then what they
27:11
did, you know, a couple of years ago.
27:13
And I was like, we, we ain't Florida State.
27:16
But like the similar trajectory could have been, OK, they lose
27:22
this and they did this and then all of a sudden, boom, they get
27:24
these guys in, they have a great year.
27:27
Florida State's going to be one of those teams, you know what
27:29
I'm saying? It's kind of a who did we get in
27:31
the portal? Because recruiting don't even
27:34
matter no more. Like high school recruiting
27:36
don't even matter no more because it it's so I mean it, it
27:40
still does matter. I don't want to say that, but
27:42
not as much because when a coach comes in, it's like it don't
27:46
really matter what his high school recruiting class is.
27:49
He can go out and get 40 players and field A-Team to be, you
27:54
know, go from 2:00 and 11:00 Florida State last year to
27:57
undefeated and top ten this year.
28:00
You know what I'm saying? Like you can, you can do that.
28:03
Somebody just put it in the in the chat.
28:04
Look at Texas Tech, they dropped so much money and it don't work
28:08
that way all the time. But like Virginia Tech, if you
28:12
go get the athletes and you have somebody that we had somebody
28:16
that wasn't coaching them and we still was close to winning
28:18
games, you know what I'm saying? Like if you can go get the
28:23
talent and where we play, it'll be a easier path than some of
28:27
the other places, you know, the, the SEC schools, you know, the
28:31
the Big 10 schools, things like that.
28:33
So I'm just excited that they are at least looking at it like
28:40
this is the cash cow. We got it to protect it.
28:42
So they're. Looking at it as a business now,
28:45
it is. You have to.
28:46
It is no It effectively is no longer an athletic program for a
28:50
school. It is a multi $1,000,000
28:52
business statement about the school, the region and the state
28:56
in general. Says a lot because I think they
28:59
know and I think this is probably politicians.
29:03
I mean, you got Aaron Rouse doing stuff.
29:05
You got Younkin who's a big sports fan up here.
29:08
They understand right now the two biggest universities in
29:12
state of Virginia sports wise, they're not in the two big
29:16
conferences. And what does that do?
29:19
They were like, oh, that's nothing.
29:20
It's like it's billions of dollars.
29:22
It's revenue, it's eyes on your state.
29:25
It it's a whole different ball game now.
29:27
And I'm not saying we're going to get into Big 10 or the SEC,
29:30
but if you're seeing this kind of stuff done and the school
29:34
saying we're willing to fund money, our donors are willing to
29:36
give money. And if the state's willing to
29:38
back support, go ahead, go ahead.
29:41
No, People look at things like, you know, wins and losses, you
29:45
know, schools and things like that.
29:46
But if you really like get down to the nuts and bolts of like
29:49
how the workings of the of the communities go a place like
29:55
freaking Blacksburg, Tuscaloosa, you know what I'm saying?
30:00
Tuscaloosa ain't got nothing there.
30:02
You know, Auburn, Auburn ain't got nothing there.
30:05
Like for real, if that school is not having games and people
30:09
coming in for game day, people staying in hotels, people
30:12
renting cars, people Airbnb and people going to restaurants.
30:17
Like when Blacksburg is when when Virginia Tech's not good,
30:21
Blacksburg is going to take a hit.
30:24
You may still have some stuff coming through there, but it's
30:27
going to take a hit when you're when Blacksburg is jumping, when
30:30
Virginia Tech is at least competitive like that, you stand
30:35
to make a lot of money in that area.
30:37
And then that helps not just Blacksburg, but the surrounding
30:41
areas because I've been to, I've been to plenty of games and I
30:44
stayed in Bristol before, I've stayed in Christiansburg, I've
30:46
stayed in Withville, I've stayed in places around Blacksburg
30:51
because I couldn't get the Blacksburg.
30:53
So it it, it's a bigger thing than just a football team
30:57
winning and losing games. So the people that's up top now
31:01
I start looking at things going, well, how much money are we do?
31:05
How much money did we lose because we're doing this and how
31:08
much money can? Yeah, how much?
31:10
Did finally did somebody finally say you've lost $300 million?
31:14
You lost. Exactly.
31:16
You lost. All this money.
31:17
You've had a down program, so you've had, you know, and then
31:21
it made all the stadiums fooled up.
31:22
But still, are those people traveling?
31:24
Are they bringing, you know what I'm saying?
31:26
Is it overly full? Are we really booking up just
31:29
because you say you got this many people in the stadium?
31:32
Are you booking up hotels? There's restaurants being
31:35
booked, there's people getting mad and leaving, going home.
31:37
It's more to it than just that. So I tell you what, whatever
31:43
that I think, it's the Hard Rock that's in Bristol when if we
31:46
winning, I'm going in there spending money.
31:49
If we losing, I don't spend nothing.
31:51
I want to go to the casino and spend money when we're doing
31:54
good. I'm I'm I'm excited, but you
31:56
know, when you're not it, it just changes the trajectory of
31:59
what people are going to do. So I think the people up top
32:02
finally kind of understand that or they understood it because
32:04
they was making money. But when it starts hitting their
32:07
pockets, they like, hold on for a minute.
32:09
Let's let's figure out what's going on.
32:10
So. There you go, Brian.
32:13
Anything else you want to add before we jump to the next piece
32:16
here? With Yeah, yeah.
32:17
So I'll, I'll just talk about a little bit.
32:19
So I mean one of the things that we talked about was kind of the
32:21
funding breakdown. You know, there's going to be
32:25
institutional support, there's going to be student fee
32:30
increases. We got bridge funding, which
32:32
means we are taking out some loans and then we got
32:37
philanthropy which is always been a part of athletics fund
32:41
rating, right. So we we talked about and what
32:45
it sounds like is that when we talk about the philanthropy part
32:47
of it, it sounds like year one that fiscal year 26 already has
32:52
been either collected or is already aligned and, and and
33:00
spoken for. Obviously we don't need to
33:05
restructure some of the things in Hokie Club to make sure that
33:07
we're hitting those marks for 27 through 29 to keep that funding
33:13
allocation rising. And then we look at student
33:16
fees. I know people hate student fees,
33:17
but at this point, everybody, every, everybody's got student
33:21
fees. I mean, it sucks, it's a
33:22
necessary evil, but it it's one of those things that it looks
33:27
like, you know, you go from. Yeah, really you're, you're not
33:31
really pulling any revenue from 2.
33:32
Fees right now lowest, still the lowest even after the
33:35
additional. Funding, yeah.
33:36
So you're still, you're still putting yourself in a pretty
33:39
good position relative to your competition in terms of not, not
33:43
crippling your students. I mean, nobody, nobody likes
33:46
you're giving 18 to 22 year olds additional debt.
33:50
I mean, I get it. But at the end of the day, if
33:55
you want to be competitive, that's going to be part of it.
33:58
Yeah. It's just where, it's just where
33:59
we are. You know the other thing, Brian,
34:03
you were talking about the philanthropy and a lot of people
34:05
are questioning, well, how are you going to do that?
34:07
A lot of people, a lot of people, well, people are asking.
34:12
If you go on the Twitter timeline, there are a lot of
34:14
people asking how's this? Say the name you'd.
34:17
Say the name. You know who it is.
34:20
You want to say the name Charlie?
34:22
I ain't saying no name I. Ain't saying a name, but these
34:24
people saying things and here's the thing, when you have a
34:27
vision and a plan like this and you see that Lance reliable,
34:30
that's donors. Well, how do we know this money
34:32
is going to come in? Well, AI got a feeling when they
34:35
gut the Hokie Club and about I'm going to say about a month, give
34:39
it a month. They're going to gut Hokie Club
34:40
and get whole new bunch of people working that that's one
34:44
way. But my second is there are some
34:47
big donors. There are some big people who
34:49
give a shit about sports and give a lot of money.
34:52
I've got a feeling that the discussions have been with them.
34:56
All right, let's say it's 30. I can't remember the exact
34:58
numbers, if you remember the exact numbers for 2728 or 29 for
35:02
land to be laid on me, but I got a feeling that they've discussed
35:06
with them. We are going to try to get as
35:08
much as we can from everyone for this.
35:11
If we can't, will you, y'all know who I'm talking about?
35:14
Some of those people who are really rich have a lot of money.
35:18
Can you backfill if we're short? And I got a feeling a lot of
35:21
those folks have said, yeah, if you're going to do all this
35:24
other stuff, if you're going to give us more money here, if
35:28
you're going to raise student fees to give more money, if
35:30
you're going to do this to give more money, you know what?
35:33
We're willing to make that investment.
35:35
Yeah, but I'll say this, this is where the the GM and coach hire
35:39
become very important. 100%. Because you, you have to have #1
35:44
the structure out the gate for them to be confident to make the
35:48
initial investment #2 at some point in fiscal year 28 and 29.
35:55
If you're not winning fucking games that extra at the end that
35:59
hey, I'll fill in the gap, that might be a little harder to get
36:03
if you're not seeing the return on that investment.
36:06
That means people got to get fired again.
36:08
It's going to be a brutal cycle of it.
36:10
It's going to be a brutal cycle. I'm just saying that's why the
36:14
GM and the coach hire are right. You got to get that right.
36:16
You got to get the right people in the gate.
36:18
You got to get the right players in here and you got to win games
36:20
in about by by year three, or at least you got to be seeing that
36:24
upward trajectory that we never really saw under Brent Pratt.
36:27
You got to see it. You got to see return on
36:30
investment and then the money will keep coming in.
36:33
If you are seeing results, the money will come in a whole lot
36:37
easier than seeing the same shit happen despite having 50 million
36:43
more in the coffers. Andrea, you got to decide who
36:46
you want you want IRV or you want you want statement.
36:50
He said. Both of them.
36:51
Both of them. He, he, he ain't got to worry
36:53
about it. They don't have, they don't have
36:55
somebody in a hokey jacket for him.
36:58
Artist knows who it is. Y'all know my opinion.
37:01
I I stated it early and I'll sit on that and again give it a
37:04
couple of weeks we're going to let y'all come on here and give
37:06
you all's opinions on it all right let's flip real quick
37:10
announced earlier this week the ACC officially is going to a
37:13
nine game schedule with an odd number of teams.
37:18
I don't know how they're going to figure that out.
37:20
That ain't my job. Some.
37:21
Teams are going to be playing eight every year and then going,
37:24
you know, we already have the weird shit that happened with NC
37:27
State and Virginia this year. I mean, we're going to have.
37:29
Yeah. Probably more of that I would
37:32
imagine is is going to be some of what happens.
37:34
Yeah, I don't know. And and then, well, on top of
37:37
that, you get 9 and either you're going to play one more
37:41
power 14 or if you're doing the 8, you get 2 more Power four
37:44
teams. So for is it next year, are we
37:49
losing JMU or we drop an ODU because they're going to give
37:51
the new coach BMI as an offering of sacrifice?
37:55
Just real quick, who's going bye bye?
37:59
I don't know man, I feel like it depends on who the coach is
38:05
because it depending on who the coach is.
38:06
I mean they may want to get rid of VMI.
38:11
OK. And so play ODU and JMU.
38:14
Yeah, I mean, because if you get rid of ODU, it might seem like
38:17
you're ducking them. They don't whoop your ass all
38:19
these years. So depending on who the coach
38:21
is, if they come in and they have ties to the program,
38:24
they'll be like, yeah, we want to play them again.
38:28
I mean, at this point, ODUI mean that it's it's their Super Bowl
38:32
every year, so and and they've done damn near 500 in it.
38:39
So you can't really fault them for wanting to play that game.
38:44
And at this point, again, we talked about it before the
38:49
season started. It's like we finally won enough
38:51
where we could push out on going to Norfolk, yeah, but now we
38:56
went and got our ass kicked this year, so it's going to be a
38:59
whole lot harder to push out of the series all together when you
39:04
just got your ass kicked at your own place so.
39:09
True. It's it's, it's going to be
39:12
interesting to see how that series shakes out.
39:14
It's. Going to be good for the I guess
39:16
the GM to figure out. Yeah, yeah, GM is going to have
39:19
some things to think about and talk about and weigh some, some
39:23
options and and decide whether, you know, saving face and
39:28
playing this thing out and you're actually getting some
39:31
wins in it is is worth the trade off of not getting a, you know,
39:35
higher level, you know, P4 competition.
39:39
If Bema comes in, he's going to want to play LDU.
39:42
If somebody said Signetti, he comes in, he's going to play JM.
39:48
Whoever the JMU coach is, now that people have been throwing
39:51
his name out, probably going to play JMU.
39:54
Hey, I want Signetti too but I don't know how feasible that is
39:59
at this point. He's at a spot where he's
40:02
getting Big 10 money with. You know, he's hitting, he's
40:07
he's exceeding his expectations by big margin early on.
40:13
And I know once you, once you set expectations, things shift.
40:17
But right now he can. He can stay at at Indiana and
40:21
win eight games every year and punch up every one or two years
40:26
for 1/2 decade or a decade and then ride off into the sunset.
40:29
100%. I know we ain't going to talk
40:31
about coaches too much, but I do want to say this because I don't
40:34
have no opinion on it and I know we haven't said nothing.
40:37
Somebody put the name out, Pat Fitzgerald, and I didn't even
40:43
think about it. He got all the.
40:46
Shit cleared up. I didn't.
40:47
I didn't think about what he done.
40:49
I didn't think about all the stuff that he went through
40:51
afterwards. I'm going to say I'm going to
40:53
ask Curtis, because I know you know about this.
40:57
What do you think about Pat Fitzgerald?
41:02
All right, well, first of all, he got exonerated of all the
41:05
shit. So first of all, we mentioned.
41:07
No car wash. There was no car wash, Dickens.
41:10
No car wash Dickens on his watch, right?
41:13
Like I said, I ain't really did a whole bunch of studying on it.
41:16
So he wasn't the one. He wasn't the one it was.
41:19
Not him. He got exonerated.
41:21
It was going on, but he did not know about it.
41:24
And he? He had no noodle play going on.
41:26
Curtis, is that what you're? Saying play going on, I'm
41:31
thinking guy like Fitzgerald, if he becomes the coach, you're not
41:37
upset because you know, you look at his track record at
41:40
Northwestern and I mean winning 10 games 123 times, winning nine
41:47
games like 3 times in his career there and they don't give shit
41:52
about it. He also mentality wise,
41:56
undersized linebacker. I mean, he fits.
42:01
He fits what you want that he puts blue collar mentality.
42:07
If we, if you, if you told me Thanksgiving Day, tally me, we
42:12
all sitting around watching the game and you call, take Curtis,
42:18
Brian, call me now. I just heard something and you
42:21
told me it was him. I wouldn't be upset.
42:23
Right, Brian, what you got to say?
42:27
I'm fine with Pat. You know, we could do better.
42:32
I I think we could do better. I think we could do a whole lot
42:35
worse too. And I told y'all, I told y'all I
42:39
wasn't going to get y'all in. No coaching talk.
42:40
So I'm not trying to go that route just yet.
42:44
But I do want to just start because I know people.
42:46
I think I'd have Dan Mullen a little bit ahead of Pat, but I
42:49
was just about to say behind him.
42:51
Yeah. What we got to understand is,
42:54
yeah, that's going to be some extra money, but we're still in
42:56
a certain position. There are some coaches that are
42:59
out of the league that we're not going to get.
43:01
There's some coaches that are beneath where we are that we
43:04
don't need to look at getting. Just my opinion.
43:07
But when you start thinking of somebody said Fitzgerald, I was
43:10
like, but then I started thinking, I was like, that's
43:13
probably about the coach range that we'll go, you know what I'm
43:18
saying, or somebody like a damn Mullen.
43:20
And then you have so many people to say all these coaches can't
43:22
or he didn't do this. He you got to go look at some
43:26
stuff for yourself because when you start looking at somebody
43:29
like a, a Dan Mullen, he didn't have a great time at Florida.
43:32
He didn't recruit bad like people say it but didn't.
43:35
Have a great hold on. No, no, no.
43:36
That's where the bullshit comes in with Dan Mullen in Florida.
43:39
So everybody keeps saying he didn't have a good record before
43:43
and I, I will no put Jason's up real quick so I can say this.
43:47
My see I I didn't even want to start talking because I knew
43:50
names. Were going to come up.
43:51
That's it. I'm I'm going to end us on with
43:54
Dan Mullen talking. We going we going to keep moving
43:57
because again, I want to have a night where we have this
43:59
conversation for two hours. But Dan Mullen at Florida, ten
44:04
wins, 10. What?
44:07
Oh Jesus Christ, Jim, ten wins his first year, eleven wins his
44:12
second year. COVID year, he went 8:00 and
44:14
4:00. He went 5 and 6 to 2021 and got
44:19
fired. He went to the Peach Bowl, the
44:20
Orange Bowl, and the Cotton Bowl and squashed it.
44:22
Three years and he got fired. People didn't like him in
44:24
Florida because you know what he wanted?
44:26
He was probably an asshole to somebody and they were like,
44:28
well, fuck you, we'll fire you. Where have they been since 2022?
44:33
So two more things to hit. Spring portal is gone.
44:39
Spring portal's gone. It's going to be one time a
44:41
year. That time is not set.
44:43
I think it's going to land like February 1.
44:49
So let me ask this question. And I mean, I know we had talked
44:52
about this before. You triggered me, Jason.
44:57
You triggered. Me how?
44:58
How is How is that landing in terms of transferring in for
45:03
spring ball with the window being after?
45:12
Drop dates for right, spring semester, right?
45:16
That's that's going to be crazy, right?
45:18
Like what do you do? Because I mean, I know that the,
45:22
the original talk was like backing up, backing up the
45:27
window, expanding the window, but but keeping it, you know,
45:33
within the spring semester, but before the start of the spring
45:36
semester. I, I just don't know what that's
45:38
going to look like. No idea and you maybe some
45:42
people with more knowledge than I do you have have have better
45:45
ideas of what that's going to look like, but.
45:47
Because you can't have it pushed.
45:48
You can't push it. I mean, it's not going to be
45:50
there. And then if you don't get them
45:52
in, then they can't participate. So you're behind.
45:58
It's like, when do you when does that portal work?
46:02
I don't know. And and then I mean.
46:05
This year National championship is January 19th, January 20th.
46:09
Yeah. It's going to be DAF national
46:11
championship game. Through mid February, no.
46:16
No that like or the 21st last day you can go into port will be
46:21
like the 21st. OK.
46:23
Something like that. They basically give that week
46:26
because most schools, your ad drops probably going to be
46:29
around the last of January. And again, there's going to be
46:35
no perfect solution. It's going to be pissed off
46:36
people. And you know, maybe they start
46:39
looking at incremental rules that you know what, you can take
46:42
a six hour online course class and be enrolled in the school
46:46
and come here and play football. Got to think like that.
46:51
One last piece before we get to big screeners.
46:54
The Wisconsin Virginia Tech game has been moved from Lane Stadium
46:58
to Charlotte. Talley is extremely happy
47:00
because he cuts his drive time significantly from from us.
47:06
I'll take that. A lot more hotels than
47:08
Charlotte. Too, how old will we be in in
47:11
whenever that game's played? Fifty I'll.
47:13
Be I'll be I'll just turn 48. Hey man, we might be.
47:19
We might be flying to them then, Curtis Cars.
47:23
Cars might be flying by then. Or might.
47:26
Be flying a long way away, dawg. But it's in Charlotte and
47:31
apparently the money's good. I was joking with Brian earlier.
47:36
You know, I hate neutral site games, I really do.
47:38
But if you're telling me you get an extra seven 8,000,000 bucks
47:42
for playing there, man that is a good payment for a defensive and
47:46
offensive lineman. Sign me up for a couple of them.
47:49
Exactly. Screw it.
47:52
Yeah, all. Right tally real quick before we
47:56
flip over to big screeners. Your prediction for the game in
48:00
your key for the Hokies with the NC State game.
48:02
You missed a really good Evan was nailing it tonight from the
48:06
podcast. I might have to go back and go
48:08
back and listen to it. I'm going to say, man, just
48:11
because of where we are, probably say, you know,
48:14
somewhere about 3521, somewhere around that range, North
48:18
Carolina State, just because I don't think we have enough.
48:21
I don't know who's playing. I don't know who's going to sit
48:23
out. I don't know who's ready to
48:24
transfer and I don't know what our office is going to do.
48:29
So 3521 somewhere around there. I know that defense ain't good.
48:35
That's the only reason I'm saying we scored 21.
48:38
So I think we, you know, scored some.
48:40
But you know, I don't know that we stopped themselves.
48:43
Keys for us is going to be for me.
48:46
It's just where we are. I mean, just getting better, get
48:51
better then we've been in the losses.
48:55
If it's going to be a loss, make it getting better, getting more
48:59
disciplined. We were still undisciplined last
49:03
game. So get a little bit more
49:05
disciplined and then you know, moving to the next games and try
49:08
to steal a couple of these games because we still can win some
49:11
games. I mean, you don't, you just
49:12
can't win one game, you know what I'm saying?
49:14
You got to find some games on the schedule and win them, you
49:17
know, no matter who's walking out there because a lot of these
49:19
kids are getting paid. A lot of these kids are getting
49:21
trying to get film. You know, a lot of these kids,
49:24
it's that last who are on. So it's still a lot to play for
49:27
for those young men and coaches too.
49:28
Everybody's auditioning. So if you don't audition, put a
49:32
good audition up, you know what I'm saying?
49:33
So steal some games, man, go steal some games.
49:37
I don't really think it's a key or my key is just to be more
49:41
disciplined. But I just feel like we got
49:45
nothing to lose. The coach is gone, you know the
49:48
players are looking for what they want to be and what they
49:50
want to do and you know who's coming in.
49:53
It's a lot riding on that to what nucleus we look like we
49:56
have next year. So and go create a name for
49:58
yourself. If you get the opportunity to
50:00
get in and make a big play, go do it.
50:02
Go do it. Awesome.
50:05
All righty, Brian went. I didn't even notice your tag
50:10
tonight. All right, Brian, let's talk
50:17
about it because I mentioned this earlier in in the chat.
50:22
I can't remember if you saw it. This is one of the best sports
50:25
weekends of the year. So first of all, I love golf.
50:31
Ryder Cups this weekend, Ryder Cups, the best of been in golf
50:33
bar none, USA versus Europe. Usually there's there's going to
50:38
be people getting each other's grills.
50:40
It's the one time you get close to your fist fight on a golf
50:43
course. Secondly, MLB is coming down to
50:48
the wire. There's like 3 to 4 races still
50:51
going on that will be decided Friday, Saturday, Sunday.
50:56
NF LS going on. We all love it as Ken Ward
50:59
treating you tally. Don't answer that because you
51:00
don't throw things at me. He ain't doing bad.
51:04
Though Daniel Jones season oh. God.
51:09
Y'all been fixed Daniel Jones up there in Indy's crazy.
51:11
But then we still, when you started, when y'all started
51:16
looking through to sleep this weekend, was it just like Jeezy
51:20
Peasy? Like it's just good.
51:24
We only picked four games and that's probably five more we
51:26
could have picked easily out there this weekend.
51:29
Yeah. And it's like, it's one of those
51:30
weeks where it's like, there's not a ton of like top 25 versus
51:34
top 25, but there's like a dozen really good matchups, even if
51:38
it's not those, you know, marquee games.
51:40
Yeah, and you got some big marquees too.
51:42
So Brian, you got to screen up. Me and Brian have had some O and
51:47
four weeks to kick their ass. Tally rally back last week, two
51:50
games under 500. Bet with Sheldon you won't lose
51:53
money. So where are we going?
51:56
Hey, Hey, Nate, I'm leading it off.
51:59
It is going to be 330. I'll be getting back in from
52:02
baseball to watch LSU, Ole Miss and got Ole Miss getting.
52:11
Hold on, Brian, I think you got this one messed up with the
52:14
line. Hold on.
52:16
It's all right. It's all right.
52:18
The Ole Miss was getting 1 1/2. Yeah, Ole Miss is giving 1 1/2
52:23
I. Thought giving 1 1/2 excuse me
52:25
hang. On.
52:26
It's all right. That's why I'm pulling up here.
52:28
The Ole Miss is giving Ole Miss -1 1/2.
52:32
Yeah, it's that Ole Miss Lane Kiffin's just waiting for Billy
52:37
Napier to get fired because everybody know Lane wants to.
52:40
Florida job, bigger budget, better state to recruit from,
52:45
lot more expectations. But for me, I think LSU is just
52:50
a morale rounded team. Only Lane 1 1/2.
52:53
I think they went by a touchdown.
52:55
Shelton took LSU. Shelton took LSU talent.
53:01
Old piss baby. Oh, piss.
53:06
I'm all right with LSU as well. I think.
53:09
I think they're going to get this thing done.
53:13
I was, I was, I liked it with the the plus 3 1/2.
53:16
So at least the the the the -1 1/2 for sure.
53:21
But it's better now, like definitely, definitely LSU, All
53:24
right, Tally taking a point and a half.
53:26
We are laying it. I Who's next?
53:32
Oh, let's be Alabama and Georgia.
53:34
Boy, that's the one everybody's talking about down here.
53:36
So yeah, we're going to see who's good and who's who's not.
53:41
I guess. You know, if Alabama loses, they
53:44
go down to games or they, they, they got 2 losses for the season
53:47
and they'll be getting ready to get rid of their coach depending
53:50
on how bad they lose. But I don't think we're going to
53:54
see that. I think Alabama is going to take
53:56
this game, so I'll pick Bama. Upset between the edges stand.
54:03
I'm not taking Alabama. I think I think George is going
54:06
to win by at least a touchdown here.
54:09
I don't. I don't think this Alabama team
54:11
is it. I don't necessarily think that
54:13
this Georgia team is world beaters, but I think they're
54:16
better than where Alabama is at this point.
54:17
So give me Georgia. Yeah, I'm with you.
54:21
Alabama played one team with talent similar to theirs.
54:25
They looked lost on the field. They got smacked by the
54:28
Seminoles and just it's 3 1/2 line, that's not enough.
54:34
So I'm going to take Georgia as well.
54:37
And Shelton is going, he's riding with us, riding with us.
54:41
Tally on an island twice. And by the way, if Cannon Dubois
54:45
were to get fired, I would be willing to definitely let him
54:48
get high because I think that kid can coach.
54:50
That man can coach just like crazy down there where Tally
54:53
lives. A different level man, true.
54:58
It's a whole different beast for sure.
55:00
What's next? Oh, Shelton, not here, but this
55:06
is a sneaky good game on Friday night at 9:00.
55:08
I don't know if I can stay up and watch the end of it.
55:11
I'll try maybe TCU going to the Valley of the Sun to play the
55:16
Sun Devils. 2 1/2 point favorite here.
55:21
Shelton says good devils. Sun Devils for.
55:27
Tally. For me, who did I pick on this?
55:32
Hold on one second here. For me, I took TCU.
55:37
Don't really know why. I just seen how the coach had to
55:40
look at his eyes when he beat Bill Belichick down to the
55:42
ground. So I said, hey, I'm going to
55:45
pick them. Yeah, I I'm with you and.
55:48
And for the same reason. He put his foot on Belichick's
55:52
throat and went for the jugular there, man.
55:55
So I think that's going to do enough to to take care of the
56:00
Sun Devils. Yeah, I'm with y'all.
56:03
I'm with y'all. TCU not enough.
56:07
They beat SMU, who's supposed to be a pretty good team this year,
56:11
and they they curb stomp the Tar Heels.
56:14
So that is a small line to a team I already like to win.
56:19
Give me TCU O'Brien. Oh hell, what the hell happened
56:26
here? OK, well, you all know what
56:28
we're doing now. Florida State.
56:33
Florida State head to Charlottesville 6 1/2 point dogs
56:39
here. As you can see, I've got Florida
56:43
State in this one I don't even like.
56:45
It's kind of funny the dialogue around can can UVA fill their
56:49
stadium for a a high profile game like this.
56:53
I don't know if they can and I definitely don't think they can
56:55
beat Florida State there. So I've got the Seminoles.
57:00
Same. Yeah, same.
57:01
I'll go ahead, Curtis. I'm just staying same.
57:05
Go ahead yes so for me, you know, I think Florida state's
57:09
got a good team this year. You know, I I'm not saying
57:11
they're going to, you know, go to the playoffs.
57:13
I don't know what happened, but I just, I'm not saying
57:17
Virginia's bad by no means. I haven't watched them enough to
57:20
know that, but I just think Florida State's on a little bit
57:22
different level. So I think they're probably
57:25
going to win this game by about two touchdowns if I had to look
57:27
at it. But I'll be watching it Friday
57:31
night. I'll I'll, I'll take a look.
57:33
Well, I say I'll be watching it. My kids homecoming at the high
57:36
school. So I'll be paying attention to
57:38
it. I don't know how much of it I
57:39
get to watch. I I think the thing for me is
57:42
that Virginia's got an offense, FS U's got a team.
57:46
Yeah, that's it. FSU's got a team and you know,
57:52
already played a significantly more talented team in Alabama,
57:57
beaten by two scores. They played nobodies and beat
58:01
the dog piss out of East Texas A&M and Kent State.
58:05
I mean, that's old school, 77, three and 6610.
58:10
That's just beating the crap out of someone.
58:12
And yes, it is. I got mayor behind me reminding
58:16
me this is the 30th anniversary of UVA beating Florida State.
58:22
But I just think, Tyler, just do what Tyler said.
58:26
Florida State's a well-rounded team.
58:28
I think Virginia's probably going to score in the 20s, but I
58:33
think Florida State's going to score in the high 30s, low 40s.
58:36
I don't think Virginia's going to stop them straight up.
58:39
So there it is. There it is.
58:43
Oh man, tell I'm glad you got to come on for the last 35.
58:48
Man, I have to pop on him, make sure Andrey acted right, you
58:51
know what I'm saying? He was a little, he was a little
58:53
agitated in the last couple of weeks.
58:55
He's out. Control.
59:00
He was fired. Up.
59:03
He was fired up. One piece of news, if y'all
59:07
didn't see this just hit about five hours ago, everybody saw
59:09
Kevin Giltner took the Wofford job.
59:14
But the there is a Boise State assistant coach.
59:17
I had his. I had to tweet up and
59:19
everything. Somebody put it in here.
59:23
Yeah. I hate Twitter.
59:24
Sometimes you find exactly what you need and then it just goes
59:29
away. Trying to ask you guys.
59:33
Oh, it refreshed on me because I'm like, oh, there's a tweet
59:36
right there. Let me just hit it.
59:38
Shout out David Cunningham for the repost.
59:40
Former Boise State assistant coach David and Moats will be
59:45
named assistant coach at Virginia Tech.
59:49
Pretty big move for him. He he had been in Boise since
59:52
2017 in a variety of roles. Boise has made the tournament
59:57
for definitely a few years, so that role is filled.
1:00:01
Basketball season is starting soon, so you know, we'll see how
1:00:05
that goes. Anything else boys, before we
1:00:09
end the night? Anybody see?
1:00:13
We got Brett Frye. I'm ready.
1:00:14
To I'm ready to get AGM. Give me AGM.
1:00:17
If anybody sees Brett Pryor at the bar, tell him to quit
1:00:20
drinking beer. Don't quit drinking.
1:00:23
Aw, man. Tally.
1:00:25
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