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#214: Repo! The Genetic Opera (2008) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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Zydrake comes in a little glass file.
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In a little glass file. A little glass file and the
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little glass file goes into the gun like a battery, and the
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Zydrake gun goes somewhere against your anatomy.
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And when the gun goes off, it sparks and you're ready for
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surgery. Surgery.
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Well then once you release A Scary Movie, The podcast where
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we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly and the absurd and all
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of our favorite and the least favorite scary movies.
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Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its fan
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base. Even if we don't always get it
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my. Name is Travis.
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My name's Jesse and happy Pride friends.
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We're so happy to be celebrating all of our friends this month,
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supporting love and equality and being who you truly wanna be.
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And we're kicking it off with a bang with Repo the Genetic
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Opera. Yeah, our very first musical in
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the show. Yes, somehow.
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Somehow. How have we made it three years
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without me pulling a musical out?
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I don't know. That's a good question.
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I thought for sure that we would have touched one of them at
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least, but no, here we go. Yep, here we are.
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We're breaking. Grounds, yes.
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Before we get into it, I do just have a quick announcement which
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is that like last year Oliver Patreon fun, like proceeds,
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profits, money. All of the all of the funds from
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Patreon. Are going to the Trevor Project
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at the end of the month? Yeah.
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So if you want to subscribe to the Patreon for a single month,
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you can totally do that. And that money goes to the
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Trevor Project, which is a resource for trans youth.
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Get some sweet content too. Well, it's a resource for LGBTQ
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youth to be more Yeah clear. And you can access all of our
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content. Historically, I think you have
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the option to download stuff. So if you if you're like, I
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don't have time to listen to everything you.
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Really download it. Pretty sure that.
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Doesn't sound right. Somebody could just like do like
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a quick like thing and then download.
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Well, I guess you wouldn't get the new stuff.
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Yeah, whatever. OK.
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It's fine, it's very good 'cause I'm OK with it.
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Yeah, yeah. No, I'm totally OK with people
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just signing up for this month, you know, just to make a
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donation and also get some shit in return.
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Yeah. So yeah, the link to our Patreon
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is at the very bottom of our show notes, so just scroll to
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the very bottom and you'll have a link that'll take you right
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there. Oh yeah.
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So we have a poll. We have a poll.
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We have a poll. Yeah.
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So we wrapped up prom month last week.
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So with our prom movies, we just asked everybody, who from that
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movie are you taking the prom? So I had four options.
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They were Billy, Clarissa, Shawna, and Marty.
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So over on Instagram, 40% would go with Billy, 40% Clarissa, 20%
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Shawna, nobody, Marty, sorry. Over on Twitter, 33% Billy, 50%
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Clarissa, 17% Marty no Shawna over there.
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OK, well, as we talked about last week, we do know Brian
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Bremer and that dude can party. So I'm going, I'm going to prom
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with Marty. I'm taking Marty.
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He's. Taking Marty, OK, well, you can
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have him. I'll go with Corissa because I
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think Corissa would be the most fun.
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OK, Yeah. Oh, she'll be wild for sure.
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She's. Wild yeah, might move her body
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in weird ways, but you know, whatever that's.
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That's how you get the dancing. Yeah, that's pretty much it.
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All right, that's our pole. OK, so let's talk about repo.
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OK. I'm gonna do background and then
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like some of my stuff will tie into why I picked this for our
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Pride Month coverage, OK? And I will, my little factoid is
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going to tie into some of what I talked about.
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So I'll share that there. It's a It's a definition of a
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term that I just learned about recently that I thought would be
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fun to share. OK, yeah, I was, I was curious
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why this one came. Up so that we'll get to all of
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that shortly. So Reap of the Genetic Opera
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premiered July 18th, 2008 at the Fantasia Film Festival in Canada
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and had a limited US release on November 7th, 2008.
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We watch it on Tubi, but as of June 1st you can stream it on
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Tubi, Pluto TV, Fandango at home, YouTube Prime Time, or
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YouTube TV Premium. You can also rent it from Google
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Play written by Terrence Smith and Terrence Dunich.
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Dunich. I listen to the pronunciation on
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that. They had a weird like a
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inflection with it like Dunich. Terrence Dunich.
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Directed by Darren Lynn Bausman. Yeah, that was the big surprise.
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You acted up at the end of the last episode.
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Yeah, so very exciting. It was weird, but it made a lot
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of sense once I started watching the movie.
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Yes, yes. Music by Darren Smith and
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Terrance Dunich. Really.
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OK, well, I guess that makes sense.
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It's a musical. Yeah, and some of my additional
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background information will make it make even more sense.
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OK, special effects makeup. The prosthetics coordinator is
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none other than one Francois Dejonne.
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Oh, from saw. Oh wow.
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OK. Yep.
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So their bubbies confirmed Kim Dao was in.
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She was the contacts coordinator since we had a lot of special
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effects contacts involved, and Mary Beth Krasnev was the key
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makeup artist. So very cool.
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Starring Alexa Pena Vega as Shiloh Wallace, Paul Sorvino as
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Roddy Largo, Anthony Head as Nathan Slash The Repo Man, Sarah
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Brightman is Blind Mag, Paris Hilton is Amber Sweet, Bill
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Mosley is Luigi Largo, Kevin Ogre Ogilvy as Pavi Largo, and
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Terrence Dunich as Grave Robber. Oh, that was him, Yes.
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Oh, OK. Yes, he has been involved in
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this basically from the beginning, from his early days.
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It feels like Grave Robber was just away for him.
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He's like, I want to be on screen and sing too like.
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Well, he and we talked about this independently, but I had
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this confused with the Devil's Carnival, so for a long time I
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thought I had seen this, but I'd actually seen Devil's Carnival.
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He's in that, too. He's Lucifer.
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Oh, OK. So yeah, he's.
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And Darren Lynn Bausman directed that as well.
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Did he? Yes.
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I didn't peg him as like a big musical type of dude.
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Dude's a nerd. Yeah, I guess that's true.
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But man, OK, two musicals on this.
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Phone actually three 'cause there's a second devil's
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carnival. Oh yeah, yeah.
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I wonder if he's involved with the Saw musical.
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Oh my God, he would have to be right.
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And then also, this makes sense 'cause we talked about the movie
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he came back for, he gave up Broadway.
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Yeah. And we're like, huh, Broadway.
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Wonder what's going on now we know no?
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No, it is not. What a shame.
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Created by Cooper Jordan, music and lyrics by Anthony D'angelis
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and Patrick Spencer. So yeah, different people, but
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that would have made a lot of sense.
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I think that would have been funny.
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Like, hey, can you come do another saw thing?
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It's like one condition has to be some singing.
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So, Travis, it's time for our favorite game Budget or Buckton.
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This is a bug, Ted. It is.
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It's a higher bug Ted than I was expecting, but still definitely
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bug Ted. Eight and a half million.
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Wow, that's a lot higher than I was expecting.
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Yeah, opening box office of 53.6000 and a worldwide gross of
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188,000. Full cult status.
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It has a 6.4 out of 10 on IMDb. OK, that's good.
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So I have 3 movies and this theme is going to make sense a
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little bit more in a minute, but repo is originally based on a
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stage play, so my theme for other 2008 movies that I've
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pulled is movies based on other existing source material.
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OK, cool. That makes a lot of sense.
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Yeah, first one is the ruins. The Ruins.
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Jesse just made the face of you. Right, yeah, the Jonathan Tucker
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overbite, So the Ruins that was, it's based off of a book, and
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actually the author of the book, Scott Smith, wrote the
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screenplay. So that's why it's a pretty
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decent adaptation. However, if you liked the movie
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and you like reading, definitely go read the book.
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It's a very good book. The movie's good.
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Why the fuck did I think that that was Stephen King?
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And cause spooky vines. Yeah, it seems like something
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that he would write. Yeah, you're not far off like
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that. Released April 4th, 2008 on a
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budget of $8 million, worldwide gross of 22.8 million and an
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IMDb score of 5.9 out of 10. That movie was way bigger than I
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expected and I didn't even hear about it back then.
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Like I I was not even aware of its existence.
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I was only aware of it purely for the fact that I really loved
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the book. So yeah, oh, you're the one that
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made me watch this. Yeah, I was like, I want to see
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how I want to see how faithful the because I didn't actually
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watch the movie at the time. And then I was like, I want to
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see how good an adaptation it is.
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And like I said, it helps that it's written.
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By the author I was gonna say I imagine it's probably pretty
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faithful, all things considered. OK, second movie.
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It's a remake prom night. Prom night.
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Everything is all right, yeah. Man, been a long time since I've
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seen that one. Yeah, I haven't watched it.
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I think we watched it together once in college and I haven't
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seen it since then. Oh, that might be next year's
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prom night in May Whatever. Maybe so.
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That released April 11th, 2008. A budget of $20 million, a
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worldwide gross of 57.2 million, and an IMDb score of 3.9 out of
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10. What 3.9?
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Seriously. No fucking way.
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Isn't there like a big name in that?
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Too Brittany Snow. Yeah, Brittany Snow's in that.
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Well, she wasn't big then, but like, that's wow.
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Jesus, I didn't know people hated it that much.
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I remember nothing about it, so I don't.
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Remember anything about it? Watch it.
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For some reason, I'm still picturing Jamie Lee Curtis.
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I'm like, that doesn't make sense.
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OK. And then finally, I have a
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sequel. OK.
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Joyride 2. Hey, Joyride two man.
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That released October 7th, 2008 straight to home video.
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That's a budget of 5 million. No worldwide gross cause.
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Again, straight to home video. You probably, well, maybe not,
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but there might be numbers out there for how well it's sold.
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Maybe 5.1 out of 10 on IMDb. That's better than I was
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expecting. Honestly I thought people would
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hate that movie. Yeah, I have a lot of love for
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that one. Well, of course we like it.
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That's our type of shit right there.
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And that's the type of shit that I would acknowledge, like, hey,
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not the best movie, but it's good for me.
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OK, I have 3 taglines. OK, not your parents, Opera.
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Not your parents opera. You don't know my parents.
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Assassin, Murderer, Monster. OK.
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It's not just a movie, it's an event.
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OK. So.
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Those are OK, Yeah. They're not like selling me on
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the movie. No.
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And I know that they did. This is, I guess, kind of going
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a little bit into the fun facts. They did a lot of like street
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petitioning to try and get a wider release for this movie,
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get some funding, get some support from the general public.
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Subway Studios would financially back it.
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Darren Lund Bosmann actually had to do a lot of like the
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marketing himself. It was very like grassroots
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almost. Why the fuck did Lionsgate and I
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want to back this thing? They made it.
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They just want to shit out a movie that nobody would watch.
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I have no clue, especially because Bowsman seemed like he
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was on good terms with them considering he did so many of
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the Saw movies up until that point.
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He'd done what, 2-3 and four? This to me made me think back to
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our society episode where I feel like he agreed to do a Saw
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movie. He's like I'll do another one
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but let me do this thing too like A2 picture.
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Deal. That's what I was picturing
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happening, but it doesn't sound like he got as much support.
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That's, I mean, that's probably like, OK, do this, saw one,
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yeah. And then they're like, OK, I
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guess do this one. Whatever.
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We don't really care. We're not actually going to
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help. Yeah, just whatever.
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OK, so I'm going to go into fun facts and I'm going to give my
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little LGBT the more you know moment.
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And this is a term that we actually learned recently from a
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very, very dear friend of ours who has recently come out as
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trans. That's all the information I'm
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going to give because they're not fully out publicly.
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So identity safe. But we learned the term egg from
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them. An egg is a slang term for
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somebody who's trans but doesn't know it yet.
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And you'll find like a lot of discussion online and like trans
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friendly places where they'll talk about like an egg or like
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an egg crack moment, which is a person like a moment where you
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like start to realize like, oh, oh, oh, maybe.
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And the reason I bring this up is because when I was listening
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to this NZ Prom covering this movie, thinking that I'd seen it
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and then realizing part way through that I was thinking of
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the Devil's Carnival. They were talking about having
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some trans friends who all said that like Pavi was like an egg
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crack moment for them a little bit because of him being able to
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swap his face on and off and the idea that you can just get a new
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face and feel more yourself. And like at the end, he
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literally takes his sister's face on top of that.
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So all of the characters, this is so 2008.
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All of the characters had official Myspace pages that were
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run by the crew and linked through the official repo
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website. Seriously.
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Yes, wow. Oh my God, I would like to see
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Bill Mosley's character's page. I know.
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Unfortunately they're all down now because it's 24, but the
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Pavi's Myspace page confirmed that he's bisexual.
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OK, so it's Canon and then I also wanted to read from this
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blog, which I will link in the show notes as well because
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there's a lot of like really good discussion just about their
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love for the movie in general. It's by baby We can be magic
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Beep and it's called In defense of Reap of the Genetic Opera.
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I like this person's reading on Mag who gives tragic lonely
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lesbian energy. Mag is also pretty gay.
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I'm just going to say it. Mag and Marnie definitely banged
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more than once, and I go so far to to say this may have even
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been an ongoing polyamorous thing during Marnie's other
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relationships. Ladies, is it gay to record a
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video of your dead BFF singing her inspirational catch phrase
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in your robotic eyes and keep it there for 17 years?
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From what we see, Mag doesn't have a social life to speak of
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and honestly, this backs up my theory of her being gay.
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Gene Co probably doesn't want their spokeswoman to be an out
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lesbian or bisexual woman slash whatever.
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So it's one of the biggest flaws about this movie.
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There's no actual gay content. Mag is the loneliest, most
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tragic lesbian and I love her and want to protect her.
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Interesting. OK.
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Yeah, so I, I think that was an interesting read on her and I
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got that kind of vibes just the way like she talked about Marnie
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and stuff. And I think it's interesting
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that other people read the character similarly.
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Yeah, I, I think that that's cool.
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I'm trying to say this with like being respectful, but like, I
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think it's also like, you know, people can have like platonic,
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like relationships like that too.
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Like, hey, that was my best friend.
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Hey, like, I'm not going to shit on this whole thing though.
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Like, I'm just like, I understand why people like, you
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know, like art is a thing for people to just like make their
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own impressions and interpretations.
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And if that's like you imprinting your thing onto that,
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that's cool. Like that's fine, no?
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And I agree. And I don't wanna say that every
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two same sex characters that have chemistry like I don't want
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to say that they're definitely like that.
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There are gay undertones to it. Same way that I don't like every
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time that there's a man and a woman and a sit together and
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it's like, Oh well, they can't be platonic.
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That's my only thing with stuff like that.
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It's because it just kind of reinforces the whole thing.
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Well, these two people can't be close if like unless they are to
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be interpreted as like romantically involved when you
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know. I absolutely agree.
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I just think there's a little bit something about the way she
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talks about her, OK, beyond just like a dead best friend thing.
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So, yeah, so these are some elements that I thought had like
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a nice fit with our Pride Month discussions that we're having
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throughout June. I think we've also got this
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element of surgery being so readily available.
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You know, we've got this dystopian version of it where
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like, your organs are repossessed and that and
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capitalism's still terrible. And of course, but I think like
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the flip side is imagining a utopia where like trans people
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that want to have gender affirming surgery have that
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readily available for them. And there was actually a line
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that I highlighted at one point, one of the testimonials during
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the opera at the the climax of the movie before Gene Co, my
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anatomy was completely repressed.
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And I think that's a really kind of.
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See, I I didn't know what that person meant by that, but that
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makes a lot of sense right there.
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Yeah, so I I kind of like imagining the the utopian flip
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side of this movie where people are cool and can get the
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treatment that they want and need.
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I think, yeah, like in the universe of this movie, like,
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it's probably advertised, like super commercial.
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I was like, hey, come over here and change your sex if you want
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to, you know? Yeah, well, it and it's more
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like gender affirming, you know what I mean?
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Like it it the outside parts don't necessarily equal reality.
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But I do think that we've seen instances of people that have
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gotten gender affirming surgery and how much is meant to them.
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Think about Elliot Page like living his best life since
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having top surgery and like the genuine I love that picture of
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them when he's like out by the pool and he's just so fucking
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happy and talking about how he feels more true to himself now.
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Yeah, that's cool. I, I like stuff like that.
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Yeah, I I'm not that familiar with the picture you're talking
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about, but. I'm sure if I showed it to you,
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you'd recognize it, maybe. And then spoilers for this
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season of Drag Race All Stars. But got Mick recently won for
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won a challenge for this amazing outfit where I'm gonna use she
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because she's in drag. So you don't know.
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Got Mick is a drag queen, but she outside of drag is a trans
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man. So there's a lot of like.
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Yeah, you told me about. Those.
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OK yeah. So she did this outfit and
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basically there's arms coming around from the back and they're
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holding scalpels. And she, like, highlighted her
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top surgery scars. And it's like a really fucking
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powerful thing. And I think all of this ties
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into the whole like surgery bit. And kind of bordering on the
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line of like, what would people consider elective surgery versus
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what is medically necessary? And not all trans folks want to
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do surgery. A lot of them do not have the
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means to because. I imagine it's super expensive.
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Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say once again, capitalistic hellhole.
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Don't they have like funds for that though?
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Like charities that help with that type of thing?
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I feel like that's a thing that I've seen before.
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Yes, but those funds only go so far and there's always hoops to
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jump through. And that's not even considering
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the social aspect of how hard it is to be out as a trans person
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in our society. So there there's just a lot of
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elements going on. And this maybe really got me
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thinking about a lot of that stuff also.
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Like it's just, it's very like gothy and punk.
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And I think those are scenes that are tend to be a lot more
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LGBT oriented because a lot of LGBT folks feel more accepted in
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that kind of a space where, like, the rules aren't really
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the rules, you know? Yeah.
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So this movie has that vibe to it.
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So those are all of the reasons that I wanted to pick this movie
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for this month. All right, Yeah, I was curious
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because watching it on its surface level, I didn't really
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understand it's a movie. Yeah.
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But a lot of people, I can see where you can come to these
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conclusions if you, you know, pick up on the little details.
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Yeah. And, and like we said, it's not
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always that like, a movie that we're gonna cover is gonna be
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explicitly like have queer themes or characters or cast
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your crew members. But sometimes it's about the
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readings, sometimes about the the discussion that can go
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around it. So that's a lot of what this one
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involved. Yeah.
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And this was especially difficult to navigate because it
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was the first watch for both of us.
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So I had to do some pre research.
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Yeah. Research, if you will.
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Research. Yeah.
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It was tough for me too, because, like, you know, it's a
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musical, so like, it's also a different type of format.
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Yeah. We've ever talked about.
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So I. This is the fewest amount of
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notes I've had for a movie in a long time because like, it's
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just like, all right, here's the subject that they're singing
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about. All right, Like, I'm not like,
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writing, like, minor details. Yeah.
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During it. I found it so frustrating that
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so much of the forward momentum of the movie was through cartoon
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like comic book style and I was like I can't read the screen and
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take my notes. So fast.
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It was so fast. OK, so I have some fun facts.
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OK. So Terence Smith, he had the
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idea for this when basically a friend of his was going into
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bankruptcy and as shit was getting repoed, it was like,
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what if that happened to her organs?
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It's a scary thought and I feel like that could actually be like
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a legit future. It makes me think of we're
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joking around. One of my sisters had her when
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she had her oldest. She made a joke about like oh we
23:13
finally got her paid off because they had to pay the deductible
23:17
on her because she was considered.
23:19
She's a new human so none of the prenatal stuff went towards.
23:23
Yeah, having a baby is not free. Apparently, yeah.
23:26
So she made a joke about finally having her paid off.
23:29
I was like, all right, baby repo, you can back up.
23:33
So it just made me think of that a little bit too.
23:36
So they he partnered up with Terence Zunich.
23:42
They wrote this musical together and they actually started it as
23:47
a stage play. And it was originally called The
23:49
Necromerchant's Debt, which. I like that.
23:52
Title. So yeah, I like.
23:54
That title better than what we. Have so gothic and I love it.
23:58
And it went through a lot of different iterations on the
24:01
stage. They kept changing lyrics,
24:03
dropping songs, adding songs, changing storylines like an
24:07
original. The original iteration, Roddy
24:11
wasn't actually the father, he was brothers with Luigi and Pavi
24:19
and Amber with Luigi's daughter. Wow.
24:22
Yeah. So they ended up like
24:23
rearranging all of that. Yeah, I like this, the dynamic
24:27
we have a lot. Better.
24:28
Yeah, I I like Paul Sorvino as a grumpy CEO.
24:34
Is he like somebody else? Like he looked a little bit
24:36
familiar? I don't know.
24:38
He's in Goodfellas, so nothing I've seen him in.
24:41
I've never seen him. He's.
24:42
Got yeah, he's got a, he's got a long filmography.
24:46
Yeah. I always want to say
24:47
bibliography, and I don't know why.
24:52
So, yeah. So this went on from about 2002
24:54
to 2005. The initial idea happened in
24:57
like, 1996 or so. So this is a long time coming,
25:01
long time coming. And eventually they wanted to
25:05
make it into a film. And Darren Lynn Bausman directed
25:08
and financed the 10 minute shorts that they were going to
25:11
use to try and pitch it to production companies.
25:14
Wow, I'm curious how you condensed this into a 10 minute
25:17
short. Wait till you hear who some of
25:20
the people were in that 10 minute short.
25:22
Are they saw people? They were saw people?
25:26
Is it kosis? No God I wish no Shawnee Smith
25:30
was originally Amber Sweet, but at that time the character was
25:34
called Heather Sweet. I could see her being in this.
25:36
And guess he was a repo man. Tobin Bell.
25:40
No, not not a soft person. I.
25:46
Don't fucking know. Michael Rooker.
25:48
Michael Rooker. Michael Rooker.
25:50
You know, that makes sense because they brought him in for.
25:54
Oh no, that was just because he was doing a favorite for James
25:56
Gunn. Yeah.
25:57
Scream clean. This is what I was thinking.
25:59
You know what? Wholesome movie slash TV dads?
26:03
If we couldn't have had Tony Head, I would have been very
26:06
happy with Michael Rooker. As a wholesome TV dad.
26:09
Yeah, Giles's dad. He's Giles's dad.
26:13
No, Giles is. Oh, Dad.
26:15
Oh, I thought you were saying Michael Rooker is like a sweet
26:17
guy on TV. I'm like, that motherfucker
26:19
played Henry. He is the guy from.
26:22
I was thinking of him in Guardians of the Galaxy.
26:26
That's a little bit better, but that's one instance.
26:28
Everything else, he's kind of a psycho.
26:30
He might be your father, boy, but he ain't your daddy.
26:32
Slither just eating all that nasty ass Me.
26:36
He's a bad husband than. That I just like Michael Rooker.
26:39
Let me enjoy him. No, I like him too.
26:41
He's amazing. I love that guy.
26:44
OK, finally, so this is going to mean nothing to you, but Pavi is
26:51
played by Kevin Ogre Ogilvy. As I said, his stage name is
26:56
Nevik Ogre and he was a band member for Skinny Puppy, which
27:02
is the Canadian band in the genre of music you don't listen
27:05
to. What kind of?
27:06
It's hold on, let me get the official description.
27:11
Skinny Puppy sounds like it would be like an indie rock like
27:14
alternative, like a surf rock band.
27:17
You told me that. Electro industrial band,
27:21
industrial rock and Electro industrial genre is what they
27:25
called. OK themselves, I'm not.
27:27
I'm not familiar with that. That doesn't really help me.
27:30
Yep, see it. OK.
27:32
And then another musician had a cameo that would be none other
27:36
than one Joan Jett. Joan Jet's in this.
27:39
Yes, she was in the band that was playing during Shiloh's 17
27:43
song. Oh, really?
27:45
Yeah, so those are my fun facts, and I think that means we're
27:49
ready to talk about good, bad, ugly and absurd.
27:52
OK, that means I kick it off yes all right, I hate being the one
27:56
to kick this one off because this is a very much Jesse type
28:00
of movie. So one thing I will say I liked
28:03
about this is I really like the concept that they had for this.
28:06
I like the idea of this dystopian future where people
28:10
actually do repo and make a business out of harvesting and
28:14
like selling organs. Like that's shit that I hadn't
28:17
really thought of before. And that is kind of a terrifying
28:21
thought. Like whenever they rip out the
28:23
organs in this movie and they have barcodes on them like.
28:26
Yeah, that scene of him like pulling out the spine and then
28:30
checking the barcode. Holy shit.
28:33
That's like, fuck man, that sucks, but it's such a cool
28:36
idea. I really really respect that.
28:40
I thought that it was kind of neat to have like a little bit
28:43
of like comic book illustration to do some of the exposition in
28:48
this here. To me, though, that also made me
28:52
think it was a cheap movie because like, well, we don't
28:55
have the funds to shoot this, so let's just draw a little bit of
28:59
what's happening here. A lot of the more negative
29:01
reviews I read said the same thing.
29:03
I mean, it, it kind of cheapens the movie a little bit, but I
29:06
mean, like as a guy that likes to like look at illustrations, I
29:11
appreciate that part at least. Especially like the design of
29:14
the repo man. Yeah, it's really cool.
29:17
I like that was that was something that I wasn't
29:19
expecting was his whole twist of being a like a repo man.
29:24
Like I thought he was killing repo man and then it turns out
29:28
no, he's actually like he is the repo man.
29:31
But that's why they listened to him about Shiloh.
29:34
Why? Cuz he's the repo man so the
29:36
other like genco people when they were gonna kill her for
29:41
being in the graveyard? He's like, no.
29:43
Leave her alone. I see.
29:45
Yeah. OK.
29:45
Yeah, Yeah. I mean, like, I like the journal
29:49
style, like the movie that's going on here.
29:52
So, you know, those are my goods.
29:54
What do you have? I agree with you about the
29:57
storyline. It's one of those things that it
29:59
like, starts from a general everyday thing, which is also
30:02
pretty, like, fucked up and sad to think about.
30:04
And then making it even more horrifying.
30:07
Yeah, I like that it's all in this tiny little island, which
30:11
is just a cool aesthetic and creepy and a.
30:14
Tiny little island with like a shit ton of buildings and it's
30:17
like that thing is going to sink.
30:23
It's not going to last too long. And I, I like that the story, it
30:29
isn't too complex. You just along for the ride with
30:32
it. And I enjoy that we don't keep a
30:34
ton of secrets about it throughout.
30:36
And that's fine because I'm not here for like, a plot twist.
30:38
I'm just here to enjoy the movie.
30:40
Yeah. I like the general aesthetic of
30:43
it all. I like that it feels very like
30:46
punk and DIY, which is part of the reason I was surprised that
30:49
the budget was as high as it was, because it feels very much
30:53
like bring your own wardrobe kind of moment.
30:56
Yeah, it does. And they've got that RuPaul's
31:00
Drag Race season one Vaseline filter over the camera to hide
31:04
some of the rougher edges it it. But I feel like it works for the
31:10
feeling of this. I'm not mad about it.
31:13
OK, I have one more I get to say.
31:15
I thought that they, sorry, I know I'm kind of jumping into
31:18
your thing, but I thought that they did a really good job of
31:23
combined. Like I, I imagine shooting a
31:25
musical is super difficult to do.
31:27
Oh God. And they did a good job of like
31:31
mix like editing and like making everything mesh together
31:34
whenever characters are in completely different
31:36
environments, stuff like that. Like I imagine that that's like
31:39
a difficult task and like everything flowed pretty well.
31:44
Like, you know, nothing really felt like it was out of place or
31:48
anything. Yeah.
31:50
And I like that they just they really leaned into the dystopian
31:53
futuristicness of it all where like you can we have to have
31:58
something that's kind of a familiar feeling.
32:01
And this definitely hits harder after COVID.
32:04
What what life? But also you can play with some
32:09
of the the rules and the technology and just have fun
32:12
with it in, you know, a very dark kind of sense.
32:17
So I really enjoy that. And I enjoy that we see a lot of
32:20
organs. You would think what a movie
32:22
that's like on the cheaper side. You're not they're gonna cut
32:26
away from the Oregon snatching. But we see him like full on
32:30
fondling some spleens and. He's got a little bit, Yeah.
32:33
He's got like a heart and a spleen.
32:35
I think that that's the extent of it.
32:36
But we see it multiple times. Yeah.
32:38
They. Yeah.
32:39
I mean, come on, man, If you're gonna give us this premise, you
32:42
gotta at least deliver on that. I do like, especially knowing
32:46
that it's Francois Dejanet. I think that kind of helps
32:49
because that man knows his prosthetic.
32:51
Did he do saw three? I feel like he must have.
32:54
I feel. Like he did most of the Saw
32:56
movies. Because that one is the fucking
32:58
best. Saw movie with the facts for
33:00
sure. So yeah, I just, it's all
33:03
around. It's 100% the type of thing I
33:06
love. I had a very good time with
33:09
this. Cool, what is your bad?
33:12
OK, so this is a movie that's very much gonna like, you're
33:16
gonna have to like this type of music to really get into it.
33:19
And unfortunately this isn't my genre of music that I like.
33:23
So like, it's not exactly, you know, like it, it's weird.
33:30
Like, this isn't exactly what I would think a musical would
33:34
sound like. And I think that that's probably
33:36
their goal. I think that they're trying to
33:38
go like, more of like a heavier. Like, I wouldn't like maybe more
33:45
hardcore. I wouldn't say metal, but like,
33:48
it's a little bit more like thrashy.
33:50
Yeah. And like, some of the songs just
33:54
kind of didn't feel like they fit this type of movie.
33:59
Yeah, I will say that tonally it's a bit all over the place.
34:03
Yeah, like, and they do this thing so many times where it's a
34:08
bunch of people singing at the same time, like kind of singing
34:11
over each other. Babe, that's just musicals.
34:14
That's musicals. I know, but like, does every
34:16
song in a musical do that? Like usually people is like, and
34:19
here's my turn to sing and now here's your turn to sing and
34:21
then we'll hit the same thing together.
34:23
But this is like them like hey, I'm saying this shit like no,
34:26
I'm going to say this shit. And they're like saying at the
34:27
same time. And it's just like, hey fellas,
34:30
fellas, let's take it. Let's take some turns here do.
34:33
You remember the key and peels get one night at a time.
34:37
Oh yeah, in. Front of blame this.
34:39
What was well, that's see, I think that they are making fun
34:42
of that one song or see, I don't fucking know musical.
34:45
So I'm I might be I'm speaking this bad is brought to you by
34:49
Travis. This is all of shit that like
34:52
doesn't work for me. OK, that's.
34:54
Fine, that is completely fine. Maybe This is why I just don't
34:58
really gravitate towards a musical.
35:00
This is just because like take turns like I do.
35:04
I need to be a fucking moderator up there and let you guys like
35:11
another thing about this movie, like one of the things that
35:14
shocked me so much when you said the budget is it feels so
35:18
claustrophobic, like nothing. And I don't think that I don't
35:22
know if that's intentional. Are they trying to go for a
35:24
stage fill or are they trying to make this thing feel like it's
35:28
an open, like real world? Because it doesn't feel like an
35:31
existing world to me. I think part of the problem is
35:33
that it's coming from being on a stage, so a lot of it is written
35:37
with that kind of a thing in mind.
35:40
So there are limited locales because of what had already been
35:46
written and existed. But adapted like this thing was
35:49
like, that was 10 years ago, you know?
35:52
Yeah, but also like they would have had to add like a bunch of
35:54
different scenes and stuff. Like they'd have to add
35:56
different storylines to add different locations, you know
35:59
what I mean? No, because you can do movies
36:03
with like few locations, like one of your favorite types of
36:06
movies or single location movies.
36:08
Absolutely you don't have to have like things go all over the
36:11
place. But like, I don't know, I just I
36:14
didn't I didn't buy that this was like a place I I definitely
36:17
like I didn't get immersion from it.
36:22
OK. So I guess that's pretty much of
36:25
a bad, OK. Yeah, yeah, my bad.
36:28
Is I? I do think there's like a little
36:30
bit of whiplash tonally from time to time.
36:34
Also, I wanted more of the siblings, the Largo children.
36:39
Oh God that's another thing. Why are they bringing in these
36:44
people who Can't Sing? Bill Mosley will love the guy.
36:46
Dude does not sing a fucking word in the song, he just
36:49
shouts. I just like that he is basically
36:53
playing his more iconic characters except he's rich
36:56
instead of being white trash. Yeah, like that.
36:59
He's a fucking serial killer in this too.
37:01
Yeah. Luigi Largo is just a rich mash
37:06
up of Otis Firefly and Chop Top and Chop Top.
37:10
I I wanted one line from him in this movie that we used to be
37:13
like my plate, you dog Dick. Which Bill Mosley.
37:19
Glad to hear you're you're doing better and you're rehabbing.
37:22
He got hit by a cyclist at a conventions.
37:25
Hit and run, Yeah person. Ran it, fractured his pelvis and
37:29
broke some ribs. Oh, is that why I didn't know
37:31
the extent of his injuries? Yeah, he.
37:33
Yeah, that makes sense. He.
37:35
Can't walk on it right now. He's having a lot of fun on his.
37:38
He always has a lot of fun on his Instagram, but he's, I feel
37:41
like he's having like painkiller fun on his.
37:43
Instagram. Oh, shit, That explains a whole
37:44
lot of things right now. Almost thought about tweeting
37:48
him, like, asking him, like, hey, taking advantage, like,
37:50
hey, you're bored right now. Like, what do you think about
37:52
this weird ass movie where you're just shouting and killing
37:54
people the entire time? He's like, which one?
37:58
Yeah. No I I agree, I love him in this
38:02
movie but no he Can't Sing. No, he's not the only one
38:05
either. I don't.
38:06
Well, I couldn't tell with the guy that played Roddy.
38:10
Like a lot of times it's him just kind of like I'm talking in
38:13
this voice. But then they will have.
38:15
A operatic moment. Yeah.
38:16
And then I'm like, is that him singing or did they bring
38:19
somebody in for this verse? I don't know.
38:22
Because it didn't seem right. And then also, I didn't get
38:27
enough Paris Hilton. I wanted more of her.
38:30
I like I I really well. We're we've always been team.
38:33
Yeah, we're Team Paris and it bummed me out.
38:37
It was House of Wax all over again for me.
38:39
Reading some stuff online where every single thing said Paris
38:42
Hilton aside, I'm like, why? Paris Hilton aside, what the
38:45
fuck did she do to you? Like.
38:47
She wasn't bad in this movie at all.
38:49
She actually sounded good too. She could sing.
38:51
She had a singing career. Yeah.
38:54
But then again, that's one of those things where it's like Dad
38:58
bought that, Maybe you know what I mean?
38:59
That's possible, but I mean, it wasn't like she could hold a
39:03
tune. You know what?
39:04
I mean, she did fine. She did a good job in this.
39:07
Yeah, it would have been nice. So I have more of her moment.
39:10
I thought she was gonna be the bigger character.
39:12
Can I go back and add a good that I had in mind and then I
39:14
forgot when we actually got to talking?
39:16
About what if I say no? I'm going to do it anyway.
39:18
OK, go ahead. I like that all of the people in
39:22
this future don't just look like they're fighting the clock
39:29
cosmetically. Like we've got different ages
39:34
represented and people do look their age.
39:36
And some of me wonders if, like, a lot of their elective
39:39
surgeries are like internal to keep them alive forever without
39:43
necessarily worrying about the like, physical aspect, like the
39:48
shallower aspect of what it means to be young.
39:52
Cuz like, think about like the DJ at the end, I was like, we
39:55
got this older lady DJ, what's going on here?
39:57
And I kind of liked that. And so it got me thinking about
40:00
that too. Same thing with like bigger
40:01
people too. Yeah, there was, you know,
40:03
everything was pretty much. But then again, like, I don't
40:05
know, we only saw the elite. Yeah.
40:08
So like we don't really see like the well, we get like a glimpse
40:12
of like the sub district or whatever.
40:15
Yeah, but we don't. That's not really a good.
40:18
Drug market, sub market if you will.
40:20
Whatever. Yes, as they say.
40:22
I will say that was my favorite song in the whole thing.
40:25
When you were singing that, like that's the one that stood out to
40:27
me the most, but that one felt more like a traditional musical
40:30
to me. Yeah, Oh no, that was and that
40:32
was 100% Terence Durrich, Little Theatre nerd that he is.
40:36
Yeah, he's like, I like that one, I guess.
40:38
Like tell it to me three times, man.
40:40
I. Like that shit?
40:42
Let me hear it. Again, OK, what is your absurd?
40:49
Oh man. OK, so First off, we got the guy
40:54
that wrote this movie using a corpse as a battering ram in the
40:57
very beginning. I thought that that was
40:59
hilarious. Just so you know, Like hold on,
41:01
let's get in here. Just like, damn dude, you don't
41:04
respect the dead. I can tell one of them here was
41:09
Bill Mosley. Just yelling.
41:12
He's Bill Mosley. Mosley.
41:14
Pretty much. And then the third thing was
41:17
looks like a Saw movie flashback.
41:20
The whole. Thing the whole thing looks like
41:22
it's shot and like edited to look in the lighting and
41:25
everything. It looks exactly like we're
41:27
watching like when's Tobin going to show up like he wears the
41:31
backwards cap. You know, like I, we need like
41:34
it just. I could tell so much that a lot
41:38
of that team carried over and that this was produced by
41:42
Twisted Pictures. Yeah, I get straight up says on
41:45
the cover. Yeah, from the producers of Saw.
41:48
So yeah, like those are most of my absurds.
41:52
My absurd is also the grave robber when Shiloh is
41:56
desperately trying to not be murdered on site for being in a
42:00
graveyard past dark and he's whisper singing It's my job to
42:06
steal and rob. I thought about that, too.
42:11
Yeah. I was like, hey, he's over
42:12
there. He.
42:13
Just keeps doing it. What is up with this?
42:16
He almost, he almost gets her shot.
42:19
We're not to her father, the repo man.
42:23
Shiloh's story would be over. I was confused by that though
42:27
because like so I thought it might have been a dream because
42:30
of what she says later when she sees him she's like oh you are
42:32
real. I thought she was just dreaming
42:34
or. Something No, no, no, no.
42:36
That's because Nathan Gatekeep, girl boss gaslit her because he
42:41
was like no no, it's just a dream.
42:43
Oh, really? It was.
42:43
A dream, yeah. Oh, right.
42:45
That's the whole song that we get.
42:46
Yeah, that's right. OK.
42:49
We know that she knows how to get to the grave because they
42:51
were flashbacks of him, like raising her, like going to see
42:55
her mom. We didn't get the importance of
42:58
her capturing those bugs. I know whatever the fuck
43:01
happened to the bugs. Is that like, what do they
43:03
think? Was that like the the drug
43:05
source or something? Like, no, I don't know either.
43:09
It looked like it might because it kind of had the same glow to
43:12
it. I don't know.
43:13
I don't fucking know. That was just something that
43:15
they like put set up right at the very beginning of the film
43:18
and just did not even touch afterwards.
43:21
OK, so we just did absurd and I'm realizing that we didn't do
43:24
ugly. Oh shit, we did.
43:27
Well, I mean, I think the ugly is pretty obvious in this, where
43:31
you just kind of take something that somebody needs and, you
43:33
know, kind of do capitalism with it.
43:35
Like, hey, let's just sell this shit and make a profit off of it
43:39
and. Not to mention that
43:41
monopolization is not good for the free market.
43:44
No. Which is what happened here with
43:46
the with the largos. Also Dad I I wrote him in my
43:50
notes the entire time and that's Doctor Dad and he is just
43:55
drugging his daughter because he doesn't want to lose her.
43:57
Is that what is happening here? Essentially.
44:00
Yeah, like. Come on, that's the gist.
44:02
Come on, shitty. Yeah, and again, we're getting
44:06
storyline you haven't gotten to, but I'm getting big Giles vibes.
44:12
Oh really? So he like does something to
44:14
prevent Buffy from. You'll get there.
44:18
Yeah. OK.
44:18
Well, I've kind of I've figured it.
44:20
Out he is dad, but dads are human.
44:24
That's a well, that's a shitty human.
44:28
Not condoning it, and just when you're in a supernatural
44:31
setting, you're barred for good and bad.
44:34
His barometer is way off. He's also a repo man.
44:36
Yeah, and the entire time he's like, hey, I'm not one of them,
44:39
OK? I'm kind of one of them.
44:40
I'm killing a bunch of people. And I'm like, you know,
44:42
intentionally making you. Sick.
44:44
I'm not one of them. Yeah, I had my fingers crossed
44:47
and behind my back. OK, yeah, no, I agree with your
44:53
uglies. So, OK.
44:56
And I think that's it. So we can rate it.
45:00
We can rate it now. Yeah, I I enjoyed my time with
45:08
it. OK.
45:09
I, I think I'd give it like a 5 1/2.
45:15
I know a lot of people love this movie too.
45:18
I'm sorry. I'm not like showering this
45:20
thing with love, but I'm just trying to be honest.
45:22
It's a musical and that's not your your bag, and I get that.
45:25
Yeah, I am giving it a nine because I had a hell of good
45:31
time with it. Love this thing.
45:33
We got a little bit of something for everybody.
45:35
I didn't hate this. Yeah.
45:37
You know, like, I'm honestly though, like you giving it a 5
45:40
1/2 with it being a musical and especially musical in a style
45:43
you don't like. I I'm pleased with that.
45:46
So we have a starting average of 7.25 and that's, that's good.
45:50
OK, cool. We can live with that.
45:51
No, I can live with it. Yeah.
45:53
All right. In the not too distant future.
45:56
Oh shit. OK go go ahead.
45:59
I was going to say this is something that was like one of
46:02
my bad's right here. I forgot to mention I hate how
46:06
they like dump all this exposition so fucking it's
46:10
excessive how much I exposition they dump on you.
46:13
It does just keep going, doesn't?
46:14
It I just like they don't tell us like they tell us the story,
46:17
but they don't show us the story like, and by the way, This is
46:20
why this is important. And it's just like, here's 30
46:22
seconds of like 50 pages of a comic book that you have to read
46:25
real quick. And it's just like.
46:27
Yeah, that it, it goes by really fast.
46:30
And I think part of the reason it felt fast is because we were
46:32
trying to take notes. Too.
46:33
Yeah, well, like whenever. Those came up.
46:35
Anytime those came up, I like I had to stop, like I had to stop
46:38
taking notes and just like I have to pay attention here for a
46:41
second and then maybe jot this shit down after the fact.
46:44
So, OK, sorry, go ahead. You're fine.
46:46
So in the not too distant future, a pandemic occurred that
46:49
caused mass organ failures across planet Earth.
46:52
There was death, there was chaos.
46:54
Until Gene Co, they found a cure and they found a way to replace
46:59
the failing organs. And don't worry if you didn't
47:02
have the money for this life saving surgery.
47:04
They do offer financing, but don't you dare fucking default
47:08
on those payments or the reprimands can't get you.
47:11
I like at least an hour pandemic in real life.
47:13
We got them for free. We got our like our cure for
47:17
free. Yeah, we actually got people
47:19
really mad about having a cure. Yeah.
47:22
Exactly. Yeah, tell that story next time,
47:25
man. So they realized that, you know,
47:30
once they kept people alive, oh, where's our market going?
47:33
So now they offer elective surgeries.
47:36
And don't worry about the pain that comes along with surgery.
47:39
We've got Zydrate. You might get a little bit
47:41
addicted, but it's OK because you can get the street market
47:43
version of it, which comes from the noses of dead people.
47:47
They're not advertising that though, right?
47:49
They're not. Yeah, like this like a black
47:51
market where people are making this shit.
47:54
Yeah, and if you are worried that this is just a medical
47:57
company being shady as fuck repoing some organs, don't
48:00
worry, it's all on the up and up because Congress did approve the
48:05
repossession of unpaid Oregon. I did notice at the beginning
48:09
here that it's called to a vote again for them to be able to do
48:13
so. So like it's on the ballot.
48:16
So I thought that I was going to be be a part of the story, but
48:18
like no. So I guess maybe people will
48:21
like they can change their future in this if they ever did
48:23
a SQL. Yeah, I wouldn't hate to see
48:28
what the idea of that might be. Something tells me that they had
48:32
such a hard time doing this one that I don't know if they'd be
48:34
able. To get it?
48:34
No, probably not. Yeah, maybe after cold status.
48:38
Yeah, yeah. So we have like a repo man song
48:42
and we witness him doing some of his repo work and it's bloody
48:46
and gory and tummies are hanging wide open.
48:50
Yeah, ripping out hearts. Yeah, it's really cool.
48:53
I like the way that this guy looks.
48:54
It's so cool. Yeah, it's.
48:57
I'd love Tony head so much too though.
49:00
He's a good singer too. He is.
49:02
I was really impressed with him. He does some things where like I
49:06
wonder if they instructed him to hit notes so high sometimes.
49:09
Like he'll sing like in a normal way at first like within his
49:13
normal range and then he'll like take it up like 5 octaves for a
49:17
single word. Dude, he's come back down.
49:19
He's got pipes. He's.
49:21
Got that range? He's got pipes, guys.
49:22
Show it off. Yeah.
49:24
So we catch her dystopian cityscape and we see, like,
49:27
floating billboards. Love that.
49:30
Yeah. What year was this?
49:31
Like a twenty 50s. Yeah, 2057, I think.
49:35
OK. So there is a billboard
49:38
advertising the Genetic opera for Max's farewell.
49:43
So who's blind Mag? Why is she leaving?
49:47
What is up with her glowing contacts?
49:49
So many questions, wonder if we'll get them answered.
49:52
This is very much Futurama like too, because we're kind of
49:54
flying the city like we're looking at the flying billboards
49:57
and. Not gonna lie, I kind of thought
49:59
a lot about the devil's hands or idol playthings with this,
50:03
because we see the whole story playing out like in real time,
50:07
and then it ends up on a stage with an actual opera, which is
50:10
exactly how that episode goes. Maybe they were inspired.
50:13
Maybe. OK, so we're at Gene Code now,
50:19
and there's the the dad here, Mr. Roddy, he is not very happy
50:25
with his children. They're kind of embarrassing
50:27
him. Luigi.
50:29
Mr. Bill Mosley, there was, they had like photos of him.
50:32
Like, what was he even doing? Did he kill a woman?
50:34
Was that what it was? Yeah, or beat her up or
50:37
something. Yeah, he's just like flexing
50:38
over her. So they all have embarrassing PR
50:42
problems. So we've got Luigi, Bill Mosley,
50:46
who's just super fucking angry all the time, although I will
50:50
give it to him in a scene later where he's like, I'm going to
50:52
kill somebody if I don't get some coffee.
50:54
And a gin turn is like decaf, Sir.
50:56
And he punches them because he doesn't want decaf.
51:00
He doesn't just punch them, he tackles them to the ground and
51:03
starts shaking their fucking neck.
51:05
That was really funny. I thought that like, yeah.
51:09
But yeah, and then we've got Pavi, who's a face stealer.
51:13
Stills faces. I like the whole thing with
51:16
Poppy. Like Poppy looked the creepiest
51:18
to me. Yeah, I like, 'cause that's so
51:20
clearly a choice when you like, 'cause we see later with Amber
51:25
that the faces can just, like be transplanted on seamlessly.
51:29
'Cause that's her thing. She just likes to have like
51:31
surgery for the hell of it. And she's also maybe addicted to
51:33
she's. Definitely addicted to Zydrate.
51:35
She's actually the one who came up with the Zydrate product to
51:40
begin with. And then she's supposed to be
51:42
their spokesperson, but she's like, she never shows up to
51:45
events that she's supposed to be at.
51:47
So that's, and he's like just gotten a terminal diagnosis.
51:52
The irony. He can't cure his own disease,
51:55
so he's got to figure out what he's going to do.
51:57
But he doesn't want to leave the family company to any of his
52:01
stupid children. Yeah, this is where we get the
52:04
grave scene. Yeah, Shiloh, she's over there
52:07
hunting like a glowy bug. Yeah, she's she's in her mom's
52:11
crypt and she's like, you know, I think just planning to read or
52:15
meditate there or whatever. Sees the glowy bug follows it
52:18
rocks into the grave. Robber Robin Graves, as he do.
52:22
And then he decides he's gonna shout now that law enforcement
52:26
is around and use dead people's battering Rams into a a catacomb
52:32
and he can get all of the street zydrate from that catacomb.
52:37
And he shouts again, and then ducks and Shiloh gets pulled out
52:41
and is almost murdered. Feeling this guy like people are
52:44
like why would he do this in my movie my rules, as I'm using
52:47
this guy as a battering ram, I'm shouting my rules.
52:52
Like from the theatricality of it, I love it but I'm like dude,
52:55
Dick move. Yeah, it really is.
52:57
Yeah. So Shiloh wakes up in her bed
53:01
and Dad tells her that it was just a bad dream.
53:04
Like, calm the fuck down, silly girl.
53:06
Take your medicine. It's definitely medicine.
53:10
And she's got like a blood disease, so she can't really be
53:14
outside for very long. When she is, she's supposed to
53:16
wear a mask. She's got all these meds that
53:18
she has to take and she starts singing this song about like how
53:22
genetics are fucked. She hates her mom and she like
53:25
resents her mom for passing it to her.
53:28
Yeah, so but. That's very angsty teenage.
53:31
Yeah, you know what else she does?
53:34
She pulls a Laurie Strode and Halloween Resurrection and has a
53:38
bunch of pills hidden inside of Stuff Doll.
53:41
Yeah, she hasn't been taking, apparently.
53:44
So she's, you know, having her teenage moment.
53:48
And then we've got Nathan, who we hear, we see his whole story
53:52
play out in comic book form. So 17 years ago, he and Marnie,
53:56
they were very much in love. They were married.
53:58
They were going to have a baby. But then she gets sick.
54:01
And because he's a doctor, he thought he was going to find a
54:03
way to cure her. Except the cure didn't work.
54:05
It only made her worse. And then she goes into labor
54:08
with Shiloh and he can only save one.
54:11
So he chooses Shiloh. Yeah, body this one and he's
54:14
like heading into a secret lair. Dude.
54:17
It's really. Cool.
54:18
Want. So I have two minds of this
54:22
because on the one hand, I want a secret lair that's hidden by
54:26
an ornate stone fireplace. Yeah, but on the other hand, is
54:30
that fireplace even functional? Yeah, I was just gonna say like,
54:32
I just want a fireplace. That's all I need.
54:35
But yeah, he like, he's like got a secret lair.
54:38
He goes back there, he's collected this dude for whatever
54:42
reason, I don't know why he brought him back to his own
54:43
personal house. So I guess like an extra fuck
54:45
you maybe. I well, I like to imagine that
54:48
in this future, pandemic also led to a revitalization of work
54:53
from home and hybrid work situations.
54:55
So I suppose, you know, he just brought his work home with him
54:58
today. At first I thought he was.
54:59
Flexible with his daughter's illness.
55:01
Well, I thought he was using the guy as a way to test cures for
55:05
it, but we know later on that that's totally not going to be
55:07
the case. Man, Can you imagine that
55:09
getting your organs repossessed on like a bad day for him and he
55:13
just wants to take it out on somebody?
55:15
As opposed to a day where like, maybe he's in a hurry and he
55:17
just slashes you real quick. Yeah, like he does that a few
55:19
times in this movie where he's like, OK, let me just break your
55:21
neck. Yeah, like we're just going to
55:23
OK done. But then this guy, it's like,
55:25
oh, we're going to strap you down.
55:27
I don't have hydrate. I've got all the time in the
55:30
world. Buckle up, buckaroo.
55:32
Very John Cramer. So Largo siblings are arguing
55:40
with each other. Apparently that's what they do.
55:42
They're arguing over who's going to inherit the company, and they
55:46
all think that they are the most obvious choice.
55:50
I made a note here because I thought that this is
55:52
interesting. They started having their
55:54
argument and as soon as that happens, Scout and Zoe started
55:56
fighting. Like Scout straight up tackled
55:59
Zoe in this moment. Like God, you guys like Luigi
56:02
and what's the other persons, Pavi Pavi like they were giving
56:07
me that energy. Yeah, OK, let's real quick.
56:10
Let's place each of them as one of the Largo siblings.
56:14
Scout. Scout Talia is angry though, and
56:17
likes to yell a lot. Yeah.
56:20
No. OK, here's the thing.
56:22
I think Talia is Luigi 'cause she likes to yell.
56:27
Talia's had the most surgeries though.
56:29
So Heckle people. Here's my reasoning though.
56:32
OK, Scout would be Amber because Amber never shows up to things
56:36
and we're always wondering where Scout.
56:38
Is so she's. Like glazed out and she also
56:40
likes to get high the most out of all of them.
56:43
Yeah. And then Zoe is Poppy because
56:46
she would definitely hunt and steal faces if she could you.
56:50
Know what? You're right.
56:51
Yep. OK, so.
56:54
Shiloh gets a message. Yeah, Roddy to.
56:58
To meet at her mom's tomb. Yeah.
57:01
So this is where we get a flashback.
57:03
Marnie apparently used to be with Roddy until she met Nathan
57:06
and then left Roddy for Nathan. As a revenge, he poisoned
57:11
Nathan's cure, which is what ended up killing her.
57:15
So all this time, Nathan thought he did something wrong.
57:19
And really, it was Roddy was getting his revenge.
57:21
He murdered her. He's not leaving his kids
57:25
anything. He wants to leave it to Shiloh,
57:28
maybe if she can prove herself. But he says more than anything,
57:31
he wants to go out with a bang. So he grabs Shiloh, puts her
57:35
into his limo and then invites her to an event.
57:39
And she's like, I'm not even supposed to be here right now.
57:42
And he's like, I have a cure. And she's like, hmm, yeah.
57:47
She, he, he wants her to like be the poster child for its success
57:51
that way because it's going to be like a brand new item that
57:54
they're going to market and shit.
57:56
Yes. And then also, I think he's like
57:58
trying to think ahead to the future because they're losing
58:00
Blind Mag. Oh yeah, so he's trying to get
58:03
her. Needs a new yeah, needs a new
58:05
representative. So we cut to the repo man
58:08
singing about it being a thankless job, which I'm sure.
58:13
Yeah, nobody's gonna be super thrilled about you coming in
58:16
there and ripping fucking organs out of them.
58:20
So once a year there's a big Italian Renaissance in like the
58:23
town square. It looks like a lot of fun.
58:25
It's very much bread and circuses.
58:29
You know where we're living? In a hellscape.
58:31
Let's give the people something fun to look forward to.
58:34
And I'm not gonna lie, that kind of shit works on me.
58:36
I'm low on dopamine. Cool, give me a festival.
58:39
To go to. Give me a fun, OK, yeah.
58:44
So Pavi has a new face for this, wants to be ready for it, wants
58:49
to look his best. It's like the exact same face.
58:51
It really is. But like Pavi never actually
58:54
like changes faces, it's just like the same addition.
58:56
I like to imagine it's like changing your gauze, like after
58:59
an injury or surgery or something.
59:01
Yeah, he's. Got to change it out every so
59:02
often and keep his face muscles underneath fresh.
59:05
Yeah, more sibling fighting, which Roddy breaks up and then
59:11
he introduces Shiloh and Blind Mag to one another.
59:15
And there's like a moment, but we don't have much time to think
59:17
about that because we have to cut to Blind Max's story, which
59:23
is that 17 years ago she was BFFS with Marnie.
59:27
And this is when she was dating Roddy.
59:31
And she was like, hey, some of my super rich doctor boyfriend
59:34
could probably give you new eyeballs.
59:37
And Mag was like, yeah, no, actually, that sounds really
59:40
amazing. I would like to do that.
59:41
And he was like, cool, can I also make you famous?
59:45
You know, I'll give you this in exchange for you being our
59:47
spokesperson. And she was like, yes,
59:49
absolutely. It sounds amazing.
59:51
Except the contract was signed and blood and she has to have
59:53
this job forever. Yeah, I think he also enhanced
59:56
her singing ability. Basically, it's just like
59:58
manufacturing a pop star. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:01
Which is dark. Industry Plant.
1:00:04
Basically, yeah. So Shiloh has been placed alone
1:00:08
in a tent, and Roddy makes a call to Nathan with a job.
1:00:14
And while they're on the phone, he and Shiloh both get a
1:00:18
reminder that she needs to take her meds.
1:00:19
So he calls Shiloh and he hears, yeah, he's mid repo.
1:00:25
So she's hearing this guy screaming in the background and
1:00:28
then he's hearing like the sounds of the Italian
1:00:31
Renaissance in the background from her call.
1:00:33
And they both lie about what the sounds are and then they hang
1:00:36
up. But she is responsible enough
1:00:38
that she brought her meds with her.
1:00:40
So she she does take them. So while she's in there, she
1:00:45
starts panicking a little bit and the grave robber comes in
1:00:48
and she's like, oh, OK, you are real.
1:00:49
Which means you probably also did actually try and get me
1:00:52
killed. You at least owe it to me to
1:00:54
Take Me Home. And he's like, that's fair
1:00:55
enough. Come with me.
1:00:58
This is also where they're about to call.
1:01:00
They're calling Amber to the stage because you know she's got
1:01:04
to do her whole thing with that, but she's once again a no show.
1:01:07
Yep. So yeah, that's he's just, he's
1:01:11
so frustrated. It makes me think the beginning
1:01:15
of Christmas inheritance where she doesn't come up to the stage
1:01:19
because she's. Oh yeah.
1:01:21
Vaulting over the toilet. Yeah, yeah, dude, if we got a
1:01:25
like a little side shot of parasol and just like doing some
1:01:28
fucking gymnastics, you know? I would love it.
1:01:31
That would be fantastic. Yeah, and they're talking about
1:01:34
how she's hooked on surgery in St.
1:01:36
Zydrate. Yeah, so now we get to the
1:01:40
submarket where St. Zydrate is found.
1:01:43
Yes, and basically very catchy little number.
1:01:48
It's very also sad because we see all of these people that are
1:01:53
addicted and begging Grave Robber for more St.
1:01:55
Zydrate, and his biggest customer of all is none other
1:01:59
than Amber Sweet. And we also add in a little bit
1:02:04
of a detail that she wants to be the next Blind Mag and that
1:02:08
remember how we said this is Blind Mag's farewell
1:02:11
performance? Yeah, so if she does that, she
1:02:14
dies. She's not ever allowed to leave
1:02:17
the company. And so Shiloh's like, oh shit,
1:02:20
that's a, that's a problem. So like, was Blind Mag trying to
1:02:24
leave on her own? Was that what was going?
1:02:26
On here I think so. Or were they OK?
1:02:27
I didn't know if they were forcing her out or not.
1:02:29
Yeah, I think the implication is that she wanted to leave and
1:02:32
they made it sound like it's OK, but secretly they were planning
1:02:35
to repo her eyes. Gotcha.
1:02:37
Right, I think. Amber was going to try and move
1:02:39
into her place. Yeah.
1:02:40
OK so Shiloh gets home and Nathan comes out of his dungeon
1:02:48
layer and he gets a call that he needs to go see Roddy.
1:02:52
So he goes there, he brings his organs and he's like, I have an
1:02:55
assignment for you. And he goes normally you just
1:02:57
send me the information why am I here?
1:02:59
And he goes because it's a special assignment and his next
1:03:02
assignment is to repo Blind Max's eyes.
1:03:06
And he's like, and I understand this is very sensitive to you
1:03:10
because it's your late wife's best friend.
1:03:12
And he's like, I'm not doing it. I can't do this one.
1:03:16
And then they start in with a family guilt trip.
1:03:19
Yeah, yeah, everybody just like piles on.
1:03:22
It's like, yeah. He quits.
1:03:24
Like do you guys only have one repo man?
1:03:26
Is he the only repo man in this town?
1:03:28
I think so it seems like it he's been blackmailed into doing this
1:03:32
position. So basically what happened is he
1:03:35
didn't know that Roddy poisoned the cure that he had made for
1:03:39
Marnie. But when Roddy did appear, he
1:03:42
was the one that convinced him that like, well, there's no hope
1:03:45
for Marnie. You've got to save Shiloh.
1:03:48
And as long as you're the repo man will never tell her the
1:03:50
truth of what happened. So he's been blackmailed this
1:03:53
whole time and he kills a person to this song and then he's like,
1:03:56
I'm not doing the the Mac job though, by the way.
1:03:59
Also do this shit, but I'm not going to do that.
1:04:02
So Mag arrives to see Shiloh and she's like, I am your God mom.
1:04:06
And Shiloh's like prove it. And Mag says, well I have bionic
1:04:10
eyeballs so this is going to be really easy.
1:04:12
And she does. I dude that is such a cool thing
1:04:16
to be able to just like oh here, this is exactly what I'm seeing.
1:04:20
Just going to. Put it out there like that.
1:04:21
Yes. And that's it's, it's the
1:04:26
technology that I want, that I know we as a society can.
1:04:29
Handle it. Yeah, no, that would be so many
1:04:31
bad things. Yeah, it would be awful.
1:04:33
So. The song wraps up and the camera
1:04:36
pans behind Mag. And that is where Doctor Dad is,
1:04:40
right? Now, Doctor Dad.
1:04:42
He's right there. He's doctor dad mad sad.
1:04:46
Yep, because he's he's concerned why Mag is actually in how she
1:04:50
got inside the house in the first place.
1:04:52
Yeah, so Shiloh Skidder is away. And Mag is like, hey, so is that
1:04:57
Shiloh? The same Shiloh?
1:04:58
You told me he died with Marnie 17 years ago.
1:05:01
And he's like, don't feel like that's your business, please
1:05:05
leave. So she does.
1:05:06
And then Shiloh is like, hey, you need to tell Mag she's not
1:05:09
safe. And he's like, no, don't worry,
1:05:13
it's fine because he's like, it's not our business.
1:05:15
No, nobody's going to reap all her eyes, I promise.
1:05:17
She's like, no, but you don't understand.
1:05:19
Say she has to say Italia, like every time She's like barking at
1:05:22
something else going on across the street.
1:05:24
I'm like, not your problem, Don't worry about it.
1:05:26
Yeah. So she's like, please help me
1:05:29
stop the rape. I'm in.
1:05:30
And he's like, no. And then they argue about
1:05:34
whether it's better or worse to be 17 or 14.
1:05:37
Yeah, she has like, this whole rock, dude, It's so funny.
1:05:42
I like this for like a musical thing, but like the whole thing
1:05:46
turns into a stage and we get the fucking bouncer having just
1:05:49
like keep people from coming inside the house because she's
1:05:52
putting on such a fucking awesome show.
1:05:54
OK so a lot of people hate this scene and I kind of love it
1:05:57
because it feels so perfect for a 17 year old girl to have this,
1:06:01
especially one that's not really been allowed to leave her house
1:06:04
or socialize. It's so it makes so much sense
1:06:06
for her to have this kind of a fantasy.
1:06:09
She spent her entire life just watching Mag from the window,
1:06:11
doing her, like, performances. She's imagining a rock star
1:06:14
life. And she's also in the midst of
1:06:16
arguing with her dad. So yeah, she's having a little
1:06:18
Daydream. And because it's a musical,
1:06:19
we're going to have like a Little Rock interlude with it.
1:06:22
I love it. Yeah, I could see like, it's
1:06:28
just funny. We got to Amber.
1:06:31
She is a yelling at Roddy. She needs a new face.
1:06:34
She needs a new face now. And he's like, you really need
1:06:36
to stop getting new faces. And then she's like, but look at
1:06:39
me and her face is kind of fucked up.
1:06:41
Yeah, she's like named. This is how she describes.
1:06:44
It and he starts cagging and he's like, I'll set you up with
1:06:47
my besties immediately. Whoa, yeah.
1:06:51
Poor and poor parents. She just always gets to the shit
1:06:53
end of the stick in these movies.
1:06:55
She really does. So he pulls out his last little
1:06:59
and testament and you can see that he's changing it to leave
1:07:03
it all to Shiloh but he hasn't signed it yet.
1:07:05
So he calls Shiloh and Nathan sees this phone call happening
1:07:09
and he tries to stop her and she asks why she had a godmother and
1:07:14
he never told her. And he once again is
1:07:16
gaslighting. He's like it's not real, it's
1:07:19
not what you think it is. So she ends up sneaking out and
1:07:24
Nathan is downstairs and he's having to fight some.
1:07:26
Gin turns. So everybody else is prepping
1:07:29
for the opera? Gin turns.
1:07:31
So like are those like the assistants basically OK?
1:07:35
Yeah. So Amber, I didn't write enough
1:07:41
note for that. I just wrote Amber has the grave
1:07:43
robber as she like brought him in to keep him on retainer
1:07:46
maybe. I don't know what's happening, I
1:07:49
guess maybe like just to get some in the street stuff.
1:07:52
I don't know. Maybe it's just like the the
1:07:54
guy, I can't remember his name. It's just like, I don't want him
1:07:56
to be in this scene too. My movie, my rules.
1:07:57
I mean, maybe I'll win a hang out with Paris, whatever.
1:08:01
Can you blame him? So we're at the Genetic Opera.
1:08:05
We've got this older lady DJ ING and it's just cracks me up
1:08:09
because he's got like the she's got like the old lady trying to
1:08:12
like be cool and young haircut and like she's wearing, you
1:08:16
know, your nice red shirt that you save for Sunday brunch and
1:08:23
like. Chicka.
1:08:23
Chicka chicka, it's fun. Do you think these people shunt?
1:08:28
Oh, she could shunt. I think she would shunt.
1:08:30
This is society here. We're like, these are the top
1:08:33
tier people here that. Can, yeah.
1:08:34
These are the people that are never worried about organ
1:08:36
repossession. They're like, there's they're
1:08:38
singing the song about how like they just had all this shit done
1:08:41
because they can. Yeah, yeah, hey, like I, I can
1:08:44
afford to like this shit because I I got money.
1:08:47
This whole scene is so funny too because it feels very much like
1:08:50
we're audio trying to be like hip and cool and they're doing
1:08:52
kind of like a hip hop feel to it and they get on stage and
1:08:55
they're all like awkwardly raising.
1:08:57
Yeah, yeah, it was a little bit weird.
1:09:00
Oh, and then there are some Gen. turns on stage that are like
1:09:03
humping each other. Just.
1:09:05
Humping each other? Yeah, like it's meant to be sexy
1:09:07
and sexual. So Shiloh is sequestered in a
1:09:11
room and she gets a video saying that to get her cure and get
1:09:17
everything Jane Co has to offer her, she needs to help catch the
1:09:21
Reba man. She's going to be used as the
1:09:22
bait. Amber's face keeps falling off
1:09:26
as she's opening up her mind nag.
1:09:28
It's so upsetting. I love that though, that was so
1:09:31
cool. She just goes out there like it
1:09:33
was such a rush. It's just like the whole time.
1:09:35
Yeah, just like, God, they did a good job with that.
1:09:37
Like when she's out there, like the face pill from her forehead
1:09:39
and she's like oh so good, so real.
1:09:42
And her face ends up falling off the whole way and she like tries
1:09:45
to mash it back on. She just like leaves in
1:09:48
disgrace. She just walks in the one time
1:09:50
she shows up and this happens. Yeah, she's like, This is why I
1:09:53
never show up. So Mag performs and she does
1:10:00
this whole beautiful operatic piece and.
1:10:02
It's like it's in another language and we don't get
1:10:05
subtitles for it. So I'm curious to know what she
1:10:08
was singing about here. Yeah, I looked up the lyrics,
1:10:11
but I didn't retain any of the information it had.
1:10:15
Did they like? Was it in English?
1:10:17
It it gave the English translation.
1:10:19
I don't remember what it said though.
1:10:21
Do you know, I remember like any like just that overall, OK, I
1:10:25
feel like it's got to be like all building up to like and I'm
1:10:27
about to die. Yeah, and she knows.
1:10:29
She knows what's going to happen.
1:10:30
And she was like, I want to do this on my own terms, even if it
1:10:34
means I'll be blind. And then she stabs out her own
1:10:37
fucking eyeballs. With her fingernails, Yes.
1:10:41
Oh God, yeah. She's got the special, like,
1:10:43
fingernail jewelry on, so they're like daggers basically.
1:10:46
And she pokes her own eyes out and Roddy drops, no, he drops
1:10:51
her 'cause she's like harnessed up for the big finale.
1:10:54
And he drops her and she falls onto a fence post that's way too
1:10:58
pointy to be a prop on a stage. That's some evil villain shit
1:11:02
right there, Roddy. He knows.
1:11:04
I mean, that was his whole plan right there.
1:11:06
So yeah, like, I guess like the people at the opera sign up for
1:11:11
this shit because they're like, he comes up on stage and he's
1:11:14
like, that's not all folks. We're about to kill somebody
1:11:18
else potentially. So just stay seated.
1:11:20
Nobody's in shock and awe. Everybody's like, oh cool, that
1:11:22
was a great performance. So Shiloh has trapped the repo
1:11:26
man and she learns that that's Doctor Dad.
1:11:29
They have out a little bit and then they sing Let the monster
1:11:32
Rise. So Luigi slashes at Nathan while
1:11:38
they're on stage. Roddy tells off his kids, says
1:11:42
that he hates them and he's never giving them anything.
1:11:44
And then he reveals to Shiloh that Nathan poisoned all of her
1:11:48
meds. And just then her metal arm goes
1:11:50
off and she can't breathe. And we kind of black out.
1:11:53
And she has these slashes of like, her life, growing up,
1:11:57
being at the crypt to see her mom, all of these various
1:12:01
moments. And then she wakes up to Roddy
1:12:03
encouraging her to kill Nathan so that way she could get
1:12:07
ownership of Jean Co. And she says no.
1:12:10
And Nathan says, but 'cause I think he wants to make sure that
1:12:15
she'll live. He's like, you need to do this.
1:12:18
It is true. I did poison you.
1:12:20
And then the lights go out and Roddy shoots at Nathan, kills
1:12:24
him, Shiloh runs to him, and they have like a moment as he's
1:12:28
dying. Meanwhile, the Largo kids run to
1:12:31
Roddy and he denies all of them and he dies.
1:12:35
So it's like this very like, I like seeing these two moments
1:12:38
like up against each other because Shiloh's there with her
1:12:42
dad and she's mourning his loss, whereas the Largo kids are like
1:12:46
fucking furious, don't actually care about Roddy at all.
1:12:48
He doesn't really care about them and.
1:12:50
Yeah, they're like they're singing about, they were singing
1:12:53
before about how they like, you know, like they're sad that
1:12:56
their dad's dying, but like, you know, the entire time.
1:12:58
But like, whatever. Like, all right, now it's my
1:13:00
turn. Yeah.
1:13:02
So Shiloh and Nathan say their goodbyes and she walks off and
1:13:06
out into a limo. She, yeah, she's singing the
1:13:08
song like, free OS. So like, she's like, happy that
1:13:10
her dad's dead now. Like, I get.
1:13:13
Which makes sense considering all things revealed here.
1:13:16
Yeah. He's a repo man and also he was
1:13:19
drugging you and making you sick.
1:13:20
So yeah, I. I wonder if they have therapy in
1:13:24
this future. She's gonna go live with the
1:13:27
grave keeper. Or whatever.
1:13:29
The next day we do have the Grave Robber who is singing an
1:13:33
epilogue, which really isn't much.
1:13:35
Like with the same song? Again.
1:13:37
Yeah. See, the guy, that guy, his
1:13:42
character just kind of felt like it didn't really need to be in
1:13:46
the movie. Kind of a narrator of sorts.
1:13:49
In a way, like, I mean basically like in the build up to the
1:13:51
prom, he's like, oh, let's see how this shit unfolds.
1:13:54
You know, like I. Like his character, just like
1:13:56
when he pops up and sings. He had the Best Song in the
1:13:58
movie so I'll give him that. Like that was good at least.
1:14:01
And then in the credits, we learned that Amber ended up
1:14:05
auctioning off her face to. She was also the one that take
1:14:11
over, right? She became the one to take over
1:14:13
the company. Yeah, and so she was auctioning
1:14:14
off her face and Luigi murdered the top three bitters and then
1:14:19
Pavi ended up winning the the face.
1:14:23
Man, that's all fitting for all three of them there.
1:14:25
Yeah, that's how it ends. That's how it ends.
1:14:29
It's a weird little movie. It is a weird little movie, and
1:14:33
now that we've talked about it, what do you think?
1:14:41
I'll bump it to six for style cuz I, I do appreciate the style
1:14:45
of it. I think like, visually it's a
1:14:47
very cool movie to watch, but I stand by the rest of the other
1:14:52
things that, you know, held it down for me.
1:14:55
OK, I'm gonna keep mine at a nine.
1:14:57
OK, so our new average is 7.5. What is something that you would
1:15:01
change that would bump it up even more for you?
1:15:06
I guess like, I'm not gonna touch the songs because that's
1:15:10
the thing that they wanted to write, so that's fine, you know?
1:15:16
But I just kinda, I felt like so much of what we see and then so
1:15:23
much of what we're told, like we don't get to actually see much
1:15:26
story unfold. We are just told so much of it.
1:15:30
Like usually with like I'm not when you have the chance to do
1:15:34
this as a movie, like you make the musical a movie and I feel
1:15:39
like with that you get more. And I just don't know if this is
1:15:43
the type. Like I've not watched a lot of
1:15:45
musicals, but like you have more acting scenes to to be able to
1:15:51
do that. Like you give the songs like
1:15:53
Time to Breathe, but in this movie we never really do that.
1:15:57
We go, we launch into one song after another, just constantly.
1:16:00
So that's more of an operatic style like operas are all
1:16:05
singing basically so. And this is an opera.
1:16:07
OK. Yeah.
1:16:08
Well, this might be my very first opera.
1:16:11
I may have watched one back in high school in my humanities
1:16:14
class. But like, yeah, I, I, you know,
1:16:17
I mean, I guess for me, that's just, I don't know.
1:16:19
I guess I will criticize the singing then just like, just
1:16:23
give me like, give me some time to breathe.
1:16:25
And like, also tell me more of the story instead of like, and
1:16:29
by the way, this is something that happened.
1:16:31
So you should just be aware of what this is.
1:16:33
Right here. Yeah, like, OK, FYI, like make
1:16:36
it like the fucking movie, you know, like even if you don't
1:16:40
want to like do like, you know, the comic strips were cool.
1:16:44
If you don't want to do that, fucking animate it.
1:16:46
And I do agree that I think you're missing out with the
1:16:49
musical format cause a lot of times that's where you throw in
1:16:52
your fucking exposition and that's where you throw in your
1:16:55
great character growth moments. Usually that stuff is through
1:16:58
song. Yeah, you're right.
1:16:59
And we just don't get that in this.
1:17:01
It's just a lot of them singing about like, shit here and now.
1:17:05
And yeah, OK. You know who had a good time
1:17:09
with this movie? Everybody in the house.
1:17:13
Talia was so playful throughout most of the movie.
1:17:16
She did have to go out a few times.
1:17:18
She was a little. Bit restless, she went out one
1:17:20
time during a song where Shiloh was singing about wanting to get
1:17:24
out. Yeah, she kept saying I want to
1:17:26
go outside. And Talia kind of like, tilted
1:17:27
her head and Shiloh said it again.
1:17:29
And Talia was like, you know what?
1:17:31
Yeah, yeah. You know.
1:17:31
I did too. She went over to the Chuck
1:17:34
button and hit it. I was like, all right, I guess
1:17:36
we'll pause. Yeah, she also kept bringing us
1:17:39
toys. And she was.
1:17:42
Cats were playing. Yeah, so I think Talia, I think
1:17:46
she's gonna give this an 8. I would say maybe a nine, but
1:17:49
she didn't go out a lot. That was beyond just the I
1:17:52
wouldn't go outside zone. Yeah.
1:17:54
So Zoe, who is Zoe's ultimate warrior?
1:18:01
It's gotta be. Was it Robbie, Javi Javi.
1:18:07
There was a few times where almost like some of the people's
1:18:09
names wrong, like almost almost called him Rito, like a Roddy
1:18:15
instead of, you know, like Rito. I feel like that right?
1:18:19
Because like we already like that's.
1:18:22
No, that's what Largo's child I would assign her to.
1:18:26
But I think out of all of the people in the movie, I think.
1:18:29
Bill Mosley. Bill Mosley's a serial killer.
1:18:34
Repo man. No, I know it.
1:18:37
I'm sorry. Well, what's yours?
1:18:38
And I'll tell you mine. Well, I was gonna say, I think
1:18:40
the repo man, he has to go hunt these people down and then he's
1:18:44
got a specific way of targeting each of them.
1:18:47
Sometimes he like plays it out longer than others.
1:18:49
That's true. So he does do that sometimes.
1:18:52
She'll torture like a bug sometimes.
1:18:55
All right, what's your? I think it's Shiloh because
1:18:58
Shiloh is chasing that bug at the beginning.
1:19:00
Yeah, like, and that's all we get are the bug.
1:19:02
But like, that's Zoe. She like goes over there and she
1:19:04
gets the bugs for us scouts too here lately.
1:19:07
Yeah, well, Scout, just, like, stares at him, and she waits for
1:19:11
us to see her staring at him. That's true.
1:19:13
She's like, look at me doing a thing.
1:19:16
She'll like give like a tiny tap sometimes and be like, all
1:19:18
right, no, that's all my, my work here is.
1:19:20
Done. All right, Take care of this,
1:19:22
Yeah. OK.
1:19:26
Who did you relate? To who did I relate to?
1:19:34
I guess I'm gonna relate to The Grave Robber purely for the fact
1:19:43
that I haven't stopped singing Zydroid Anatomy for the past 12,
1:19:48
14 hours. That is true.
1:19:50
You've been seeing that a whole lot here lately.
1:19:55
Let's see. I think I'll, I'll relate to
1:19:58
Luigi, Mr. Bill Mosley, for the fact that I don't like decaf
1:20:03
coffee either. If you're going to like I want
1:20:05
coffee. That I need coffee.
1:20:07
How fucking dare you offer me decaf?
1:20:09
I'm saying coffee for one. Like coffee tastes good but also
1:20:13
I'm wanting that caffeine. When people make fun of coffee.
1:20:16
When non coffee drinkers make fun of coffee drinkers saying
1:20:18
your hot bean water coffee is not hot bean water decaf coffee,
1:20:23
yeah it's just hot bean. Water really it's just like,
1:20:25
let's take that water diet a little bit brown and there we
1:20:28
go. Hey, I don't know.
1:20:31
So I don't know if I would stab somebody or punch them in the
1:20:34
face for offering it, but I would like verbally do so.
1:20:40
All right, so let's do a dream sequel for this.
1:20:45
Oh man, a dream sequel. So we, I mean, shallow walks
1:20:49
away. Yeah.
1:20:50
So shallow is still very much a part of the story.
1:20:52
And I guess we could see the dynamic of the Amber running
1:20:58
Jinko and and. That means that we get more
1:21:00
Paris Hilton and Bill Mosley. True.
1:21:03
What if? What if Luigi and Pavi try and
1:21:13
get Shiloh? They're trying to like form a
1:21:16
coup to like and like. They're trying to get her by
1:21:20
saying it's rifle yours because you know dad wanted you to have
1:21:23
it all along. I want them to be kind of bad at
1:21:25
it. I want I know we reference
1:21:27
righteous gemstones a lot here, but I kind of want it to be like
1:21:31
watching them trying to run the church in this last season.
1:21:34
And they're not. Good at it.
1:21:36
All three of them have grown. Yeah.
1:21:38
That would be great. Yeah.
1:21:40
Oh, man, that would, you know, that's actually kind of perfect.
1:21:42
But that, you know, let's do that instead of my cool thing.
1:21:45
Yeah. OK.
1:21:51
OK, Yeah, I like it. Yeah.
1:21:52
I mean, I don't know much more of a story that we could tell
1:21:56
with that. Yeah, I I don't think you need
1:21:59
to have too much of A story for something like this.
1:22:01
Yeah, there's not much of A story, and there's one to begin
1:22:03
with either. Yeah, So.
1:22:04
OK, cool. All right, we'll see.
1:22:06
That. OK, new tagline.
1:22:10
New tagline, so we got a lot of room to play with on this.
1:22:13
Yeah, we do. I feel like we've been taking so
1:22:18
long to do these here lately. I know we we're really thinking
1:22:21
hard about this stuff now. Anatomically incorrect.
1:22:32
That almost sounds like the Human Centipede tagline.
1:22:35
Oh, except now theirs is like 100%.
1:22:40
There we go. Yeah.
1:22:41
OK, never mind. Your body will thank you.
1:22:50
Repo the genetic operator. Your body will thank you.
1:22:52
I like that. You know, body will thank you.
1:22:56
I think that's good. We didn't get a single song in
1:22:59
this movie with an organ like, you know, like the musical,
1:23:04
like, you know, like the instrument organ.
1:23:07
I feel like that would have been appropriate, like an Oregon song
1:23:09
with Organ I. Feel like they played an organ
1:23:11
at the opera, did they? Yeah.
1:23:12
OK. Maybe I just don't know what an
1:23:14
Oregon sounds like. OK, OK, so that's our tagline.
1:23:19
OK, That means we are time or it's time for us.
1:23:23
We are time, we are time. It's time for us to do reviews.
1:23:25
OK, so what'd you pull for? Us this is somebody who watched
1:23:30
it in 2009, January of 2009, so very shortly after release
1:23:34
before it hit its cult status. OK, it's a user review on IMDb.
1:23:40
All right, one out of 10. Worst ending ever.
1:23:43
OK. I was really liking this movie.
1:23:45
Sure, Hilton sucked. Quit.
1:23:48
The music was lame as shit and Joan Jett's cameo was more
1:23:50
creepy than anything, but still, I felt like this movie could
1:23:52
totally be my generation's Rocky Horror Picture Show.
1:23:55
So I finally get to the ending and nothing happens.
1:23:59
The whole movie was based around this notion that this Largo guy
1:24:01
was going to give his great big wealthy business to one of his
1:24:03
three children because apparently you can't divvy up a
1:24:05
company in three ways in the future.
1:24:07
But his kids are shitty and he doesn't want to give it to them.
1:24:09
So he decides to try and give the company to his ex
1:24:11
girlfriend's kid, but only on the condition that she killed
1:24:14
her father. But she doesn't because this
1:24:15
movie is so fucking predictable, or so you think.
1:24:18
And then in a rapid twist of story, Largo just flats out,
1:24:20
shoot her dad in front of her. Boom, nobody gets the company
1:24:23
credits. All this talk about Zydrate and
1:24:26
weird singing, helpful grave robbers and endless
1:24:28
possibilities for plot twist, but in the end there is nothing.
1:24:30
No closure to any storyline or subplot.
1:24:33
They're not even plot twist, they're just like shit that
1:24:35
happened. Some cool gore like Two Good
1:24:38
songs and Joan Jett to see The fucking Fall of Joan Jett are
1:24:41
the only reasons I can think of to see this movie.
1:24:42
In other words, don't waste your time.
1:24:44
OK. And I will say in a lot of ways,
1:24:46
people do liken this to Rocky Horror Picture Show and they've
1:24:49
even done some shadow cast of it.
1:24:51
Do you think that they do that just because it's a horrid
1:24:53
musical or do you think, like, do you actually feel like this
1:24:55
is? AI think it's partially because
1:24:59
it's a horror musical. I think it's because the people
1:25:02
that really enjoy this are also the same kind of people that
1:25:05
really enjoy Rocky Horror. So I think it's just.
1:25:08
I enjoy Rocky Horror, I mean, and that's a musical, but like,
1:25:11
you know, like I like it or what, but I'm.
1:25:14
Not saying that because you like Rocky Horror, you must like
1:25:16
this, I'm just saying that I feel like a lot of people that
1:25:19
like this probably do also like Rocky Horror.
1:25:21
Oh yeah, surely. Yeah, yeah, like I get it.
1:25:24
Like, yeah, there's maybe they do a lot of setup for it to not
1:25:29
really have like any payoff. Like I mean in like everything
1:25:33
that they're setting up, it's just kind of like easily undone,
1:25:35
like, Oh well, you don't want to do it.
1:25:37
OK, I'll do it. Boom.
1:25:38
There. Yeah, I really honestly don't
1:25:39
care about who gets Jinko. Jinko's the bad guy in this.
1:25:43
Yeah, that was one of the things I was always invested in
1:25:46
watching this. Maybe this person just didn't
1:25:48
know who they were supposed to root for.
1:25:50
You're. Supposed to root for Shiloh.
1:25:51
She got her freedom. Yeah, that was the whole thing.
1:25:54
Yeah. I mean, really, Yeah.
1:25:56
And then you do get like, did they, did you not stick for like
1:25:58
the five seconds after the movie ended for where they like
1:26:01
revealed the ending? Yeah.
1:26:03
'Cause we find out that Amber took the company.
1:26:06
I don't know, like, there's a lot of just shit happening in
1:26:10
this movie. Yeah.
1:26:11
And they were saying there's like plot twists, but like, it's
1:26:13
really just shit that's not really super relevant.
1:26:16
That's just kind of building the world that they're they're in.
1:26:21
It's essentially a. This is more of like a
1:26:25
submersive movie than anything. Like you're, you're in it just
1:26:29
to enjoy the aesthetic and the the fun of it and there's a
1:26:31
little bit of a story with it. Yeah, pretty much, yeah.
1:26:34
That's yeah. So don't come to this movie if
1:26:37
you're looking for like a narrative, like a or like a
1:26:41
intense narrative type of movie. This one's, it's got a very
1:26:45
loose one. It's just there to kind of give
1:26:48
excuses for people to sing and kill.
1:26:50
Yeah, basically. Yeah.
1:26:53
OK, I got a couple of listener reviews here.
1:26:58
Yay. See if anything came in while we
1:27:01
were talking. No.
1:27:08
OK, so we will start off with Instagram.
1:27:14
First off, we have Professor Mort who says this film is
1:27:18
genius. Oh, is that that's it?
1:27:20
Yeah, that's it. OK.
1:27:22
I love it. I think there's a lot of
1:27:23
creativity to it. I wish I I knew more about what
1:27:26
you liked about it, Sir. Yeah, or ma'am.
1:27:28
I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I can see why,
1:27:32
like, a lot of people would appreciate it, you know, Like, I
1:27:34
mean, I can see this sitting in, like, a lot of people like you,
1:27:37
you know, in the right way. Next up, we have Cube Saves.
1:27:40
Who says I didn't realize it was a musical the first time seeing
1:27:43
it in theaters? You didn't realize while
1:27:46
watching? Or are you going to be like, I
1:27:49
hope you? Figured it out pretty quickly.
1:27:51
Yeah, like found out like, Oh, no, OK, yeah, yeah, Like I, I
1:27:58
remember seeing the poster for this and I like, I know it has
1:28:01
like opera and shit in the title.
1:28:03
So like, I don't know, like that doesn't necessarily mean it's
1:28:05
going to be a musical for me, but I could see that being like
1:28:08
a confusing thing. I wonder if that influenced how
1:28:12
you felt about it. Did it negatively impact it or
1:28:15
are you happy that it became a? Musical that's part of the word
1:28:17
opera is confusing though. What do you mean?
1:28:20
There's nothing confusing about it.
1:28:22
But you just said that you could see not understanding it was a
1:28:25
musical, even with the word opera.
1:28:27
I guess it says like the Genetic Opera, but like it could be a
1:28:30
movie about that where you don't.
1:28:33
That doesn't necessarily mean that everything is singing.
1:28:35
It's like, hey, like Dario Agento's opera, like the movie
1:28:38
is like a centered around somebody that is like an opera
1:28:41
singer and like, there's not really any.
1:28:44
Like we just get scenes of that occasionally.
1:28:45
That explanation makes sense. Thank you.
1:28:47
You're welcome. OK, we'll hop on over to
1:28:50
Twitter. John Fading Arcader says.
1:28:55
One of my favorite horror movies.
1:28:56
The music is awesome. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Joe fly over,
1:29:01
State of Fear says. Covered this a bit ago and it
1:29:03
was so much fun. Such a pleasant surprise.
1:29:05
I'm going to have to go listen to that, Joe.
1:29:07
Yeah, for sure. I didn't know you guys covered
1:29:09
it too. And this isn't really a review,
1:29:12
but Ward Zombie just said I'll give it another shot for you
1:29:14
too. So I don't think that he liked
1:29:16
it. Yeah, I hope you do give it
1:29:19
another shot. Sometimes.
1:29:21
Sometimes seeing things in a different headspace can be.
1:29:27
But just the expectations, yeah. Like you, you know what you're
1:29:29
gonna get into. Yeah.
1:29:30
You know what you're gonna get into.
1:29:31
Sometimes not, but sometimes yes.
1:29:34
So. Let us know, Yeah, like if it if
1:29:37
you changed your mind on this rewatch or you're after hearing
1:29:39
us talk about it. Yeah.
1:29:41
Yeah, I'm curious to know. So that was our reviews.
1:29:45
OK. All right, so that is it for our
1:29:47
first episode of Pride Month. What is next week's movie
1:29:51
trailers? I've been going back and forth
1:29:53
and back and forth even till up until right this very second.
1:29:58
Yeah, which I'm doing the June schedule later today.
1:30:00
Yeah, out by the time this comes out so.
1:30:03
Yeah, yeah, God. OK, let's do knock at the cabin.
1:30:11
Knock at the cabin. Knock at the cabin.
1:30:13
Which means that you're also gonna at some point this week of
1:30:15
two much old. I will have to watch OLD.
1:30:18
Yeah, that was part of our deal, our blood pact, whenever we were
1:30:22
originally discussing this movie.
1:30:23
Well, cuz the problem is Travis said we saw an ad come up there
1:30:29
and at the same time Travis said he really wants to see it.
1:30:31
And I said this looks really stupid.
1:30:34
And I was like, but we still haven't even seen old and Travis
1:30:38
goes that looks really stupid. And I was like no, I wanna see
1:30:41
it. Yeah.
1:30:41
Our agreement was that we could watch.
1:30:43
We have to watch both of them together basically.
1:30:45
The duality of Shyamalan, yeah. I mean, nothing truer has ever
1:30:50
been said. Yeah, like Shyamalan is hit or
1:30:53
miss. I'm very excited for the movie
1:30:54
coming out in August though. The one at the concert.
1:30:57
Yeah, that one does seem kind of interesting.
1:30:59
I forget what it's called but I wanna see real bad.
1:31:01
The one at the concert, yeah, I think maybe is what it's called.
1:31:04
Shut the fuck up, Travis. So right now you can stream it
1:31:08
on Peacock, but you can also rent it from YouTube, Google
1:31:11
Play, Fandango at home, or Prime.
1:31:13
Cool, cool. In a nutshell, according to
1:31:16
Google AI, it is nail biting, ominous and psychological.
1:31:21
Thank you, Google. Yeah, we haven't seen it before.
1:31:25
So it'll be brand new for both of us and.
1:31:28
We're just doing a lot of that this month, aren't we?
1:31:30
Yeah. I mean, I just also want, like,
1:31:33
we haven't talked about Shyamalan.
1:31:35
Yeah. And we're like over 200 episodes
1:31:37
in the show now. I feel like he needs to be
1:31:39
discussed. Yeah, we've definitely
1:31:41
referenced Shyamalan, but we've never actually talked about him
1:31:43
so. Yeah.
1:31:44
So I'm curious and I'm excited for it, so.
1:31:47
And I know it's based off of a book, so I think from what I've
1:31:50
heard it's a little bit different from some of his
1:31:51
normal stuff. Yeah, I don't know.
1:31:54
It's like the cabin at the end of the world.
1:31:56
Or. Something Yeah, yeah, yeah,
1:31:57
yeah. So yeah, we'll check that out.
1:31:59
So if you wanna watch it along with us, you know where to go.
1:32:03
Yep. So.
1:32:03
OK. Yeah.
1:32:04
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Bye. Bye Zeidrake comes in a little
1:34:33
glass vial. In a vial.
1:34:36
God damn it, Travis. Sorry I couldn't remember where.
1:34:39
You just say a little glass vial.
1:34:40
A little glass vial. I.
1:34:44
Do Oh, I thought we were going to keep that.
1:34:46
OK, maybe that's OK. That's your blooper.