Latest / OneLegUpAlex Sports / Alex Garrett and Lou Terminello On the Loss of OJ Simpson 4-11-24
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- 0:03Here's your host, Alex Garrett. Are you feeling I am that today's been
- 0:15an off day for everybody that we weren't sure if we should mourn the loss
- 0:20of OJ Simpson or we should just think of him as a guy that got
- 0:24away with murder and is now unfortunately passed away from cancer. I do feel
- 0:31bad for OJ Simpson's family members that they had to see him pass away from
- 0:37cancer. I unfortunately had that same experience with my dad nearly a year ago.
- 0:44But my dad wasn't exactly accused of the bahamicide or possibly found, you
- 0:52know, acquitted under false pretenses and all that stuff. Now, that wasn't
- 0:56my dad, That was O. J. Simpson acquit it or not.
- 1:02Why would a Bronco chase even en sue if OJ Simpson was innocent. That
- 1:10is the only thing I'm going to say about that. Why would he run
- 1:14from the cops if he didn't kill his ex wife and Ron Goldman? Why
- 1:21if he was innocent, he should have just stayed put, not lead a
- 1:26whole Bronco chase down the LA Freeway to his home. It's one of the
- 1:38most unfortunate trajectories in our lifetime because here's how I will remember O. J.
- 1:47Simpson how We're going doctor Luke Urminello and gets Terminolo's take on OJ's sports
- 1:51career. But here's how I remember him. He went from a guy who
- 1:55gave that thumbs up, remember in the Naked Gun after firing the Howard certain
- 2:00from the tank of the Howartzer and the nake gun, with that wink and
- 2:04that smile and that thumbs up. Even actually wore a huge ass afro as
- 2:09part of a bit from the Naked Gun. And then of course he was
- 2:15at Our Lady of Worthless Miracles. That was a fun bit too, But
- 2:22he was charismatic. So when that Bronco chase and then when it was revealed
- 2:28had happened, imagine if tons of sports fans that were just crushed that maybe
- 2:35their icon, maybe a cultural icon of the time, could have committed such
- 2:39a double homicide. I wanted to get into what happened with Ray Lewis the
- 2:44night before there's a rowl against the Giants, but it is kind of similar.
- 2:50They both got off scot free, and there's a lot of people in
- 2:55the camp of you know what, he's going to hell. Cancer didn't quit
- 3:01him, blah blah, blah blah. Pretty awful to say that, by
- 3:05way, but the mindset of some people today is very, very harsh.
- 3:13Of course, Caitlyn Jenner went out and tweeted good riddance, OJ. And
- 3:17the thing to me is that, how on your second wind, How on
- 3:23your second wind a freedom do you then go out and rob your own memorabilia?
- 3:31Are you stupid? Is there something with the football brain injuries that you
- 3:36had that no one diagnosed? OJ Simpson? That's what it'll get me too.
- 3:40You were acquitted of double homicide and yet you're put back in the jail
- 3:46because of what you want, your own memorability, so you steal it.
- 3:53How stupid can you be? And then, of course the other thing about
- 3:57this is he continued to social media career online. But I want to go
- 4:04back to that date June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, I personally was two
- 4:08years old and I was resting on the floor of my apartment. I kind
- 4:13of remember watching that Bronco chase of two years old and that crazy I kind
- 4:15of do. But I want to give you some audio from that day from
- 4:23our very own eyewitness news. This is fascinating coverage from that day. Of
- 4:28course, it interrupted the Knicks and Rockets finals. It actually cut away from
- 4:35the Rangers victory parade. And believe me, with the way the Rangers are
- 4:40going this year, there's some synchronicously feeling that, you know, thirty years
- 4:43ago this happened. Maybe it's passing as a sign of something good to come
- 4:48for the Rangers, and maybe there won't be an interruption of their parade this
- 4:51year. I'm just saying signs are pointing to certain things that maybe will happen
- 4:59to the Knicks and the rain Jews that nineteen ninety four were interrupted by this
- 5:03bronco chase. Did I agree with the fact that Babylon Be said he's going
- 5:11to be brought once again in a white bronco hearse? I thought that was
- 5:16kind of funny. But it's just it's sad that when such an icon of
- 5:23his time dies people mock him. That is that is just the press.
- 5:32But here's how ABC seven New York covered June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four.
- 5:40It's Newsleader Channel seven, Eye Witness News with Bill Butel, Diana Williams's Dot
- 5:46Clark with sports Sam Champion with the exclusive Acy weather forecast, and the Eyewitness
- 5:50news team. Now I Witness News. Good morning. I'm Bill wu.
- 5:56Tell if you've been watching television over the past couple of hours, you've been
- 5:59watching this search for OJ Simpson, and that search end to tonight under the
- 6:02eye of the camera outside his own front door in Brentwood, that section of
- 6:05Los Angeles where he lives, surrounded by police, by helicopters and by reporters.
- 6:11We are told that Simpson surrendered to police just a few minutes ago.
- 6:15We are totally gave up after a long, tense stand off, a standoff
- 6:17that, as I say, ended in his own driveway with police officers who
- 6:20remained within shouting distance of his open car door, which we could see a
- 6:25while ago because the light was in our favor. Then what you are looking
- 6:29now is a police chase of Simpson and his friend Al Calling. The finish
- 6:33to this bizarre case began with that picture you're looking at now, roughly eighteen
- 6:38police cars picking up Simpson's trail as he and another man, Al Calling,
- 6:42rode along a Los Angeles freeway in that white Ford Bronco that you see in
- 6:46the center of the screen and that you see now turning into the driveway of
- 6:48Oj Simpson's home. That's when the pursuit began to end. During the hour
- 6:53long journey along the city's highways, the LA Highways, Simpson was said to
- 6:57be seen riding in the back seat holding a gun to his head. The
- 7:00driver is his old friend and former teammate at USC and with the Buffalo Bills,
- 7:05Al Collings. All this cap today, in which the LA District Attorney
- 7:10announced that O. J. Simpson would be charged with two murders, and
- 7:13instead of surrendering his promise, Simpson fled and his lawyer later told reporters that
- 7:17he feared that Simpson was suicidal. This is what he said. I had
- 7:21nothing to do with Nicole's murder. I loved her, always have and always
- 7:30will. If we had a problem, it's because I loved her so much.
- 7:38Recently we came to the understanding that for now we were not right for
- 7:45each other. I can't go on. No matter what the outcome, people
- 7:51will look and point I can't take that. I can't subject my children to
- 7:59that. This way, they can move on and go on with their lives.
- 8:05Don't feel sorry for me. I've had a great life, great friends.
- 8:13Please think of the real OJ and not this lost person, the whole
- 8:20letter, the whole fleeing cops, everything about that day just seems so strange
- 8:28for a guy who claims his innocence, doesn't it Again, I'll let you
- 8:35decide, and no, I don't think it's racist to say O. J.
- 8:39Simpson was involved with the murder and my DOUBLEHEMO side, I don't think
- 8:45it's racist to say that. The other thing I will say is so I
- 8:48mentioned the naked gun thumbs up guy that gave me the wink to the camera,
- 8:54and then you have the guy in court that tried the gloves on those
- 8:58black gloves, and what was the saying if the glove don't fit, you
- 9:05must have quit Johnny Cochrane's most brilliant legal move, probably of his career.
- 9:13But I want to go on with this report because guess what we're going to
- 9:16get to lu Terminello's take on this because of the sports world. Well,
- 9:20people may not remember OJ Simpson was very much part of the Monday Night Football
- 9:28crew with Howard Cosell. And here's what he had to say, O J.
- 9:35Simpson is I have a special place in my heart. We were friends,
- 9:43we were close friends, and now there's nothing to say except that the
- 9:52law must take its cost for a person like myself who has been close to
- 9:58O. J. Simpson, very Clark. Indeed, it's almost more than
- 10:07that. Is OJ Simpson's friend Howard Cosell, and so many of his friends
- 10:11that we, as we have heard throughout the evening, have been stunned and
- 10:16disbelieving about what has happened involving O. J. Simpson. I will say
- 10:20this before we go to Lou Terminal's take. The fact that he was surrounded
- 10:24by loved ones and actually friends did go out to see him before his final
- 10:28days means that he did not alienate everybody. And as I asked, Lou,
- 10:35where were you June seventeenth, nineteen ninety four, Well, I was.
- 10:39I was here in New Jersey. Was I was with the New Jersey
- 10:43Nets at that time? And I came home that night and was watching the
- 10:50NBA Finals between the Knicks and the Houston Rockets, and all of a sudden
- 10:56breaking news and it's OJ fleeing law enforcement in the Bronco with his USC teammate
- 11:05Al Collings, who who was a terrific football player played in the NFL.
- 11:11Terrific football player at USC. When OJ won the Heisman Trophy led USC to
- 11:18a Rose Bowl victory over Indiana, and that night was surreal. It really
- 11:26was, because finally NBC news what they did. And you gotta remember that
- 11:28that was still the day before these over the air networks had backups, like
- 11:35they couldn't say go to MSNBC now or go to CNBC to watch the rest
- 11:41of the Knick game, so they didn't exist at that time. NBC didn't
- 11:46own USA networks, they couldn't say go to USA network, so it was
- 11:50just NBC. So what NBC did as if following the Bronco over in the
- 11:54lower right corner was the Nick game and you know, like you're watching on
- 12:00a smaller than a cell phone and picture, Yeah, it was. It
- 12:09was crazy. Alex I was two years old and I was on the floor
- 12:13of my apartment. I don't know why I remember this, but I do
- 12:18remember the Bronco on TV. I do remember watching it on the television.
- 12:22I guess even at that age, it was just something you won't ever forget.
- 12:24But you know, to me, there's two different ojs. I'll remember
- 12:30the OJ that gave that big thumbs up on the Howartzer tank in the Naked
- 12:35Gun you know, there's that, there's that OJ, and then there's the
- 12:37guy who was putting on the gloves in the courtroom that said, if you
- 12:41can't fit, if your gloves don't fit, it won't you can't. You
- 12:46know, you can acquire or something that the glove. If the love doesn't
- 12:50fit, you must have quit. Now, in the late sixties, when
- 12:54O. J. Simpson came out of I believe it was San Francisco Junior
- 13:00College and to play his two years at USC. And remember at that time
- 13:05there was no early entry into the NFL, so he played his junior and
- 13:09senior years for USC, and he was just remarkable. He was a remarkable
- 13:13football player. He was must see TV as an athlete. He was rafted
- 13:18number one by the Bills, a pathetic Buffalo Bills team and only showed glimpses
- 13:22of his greatness the first couple of years. Then Lou Saban became the head
- 13:31coach of the Buffalo Bills, and he turned the offense totally around, centered
- 13:37around. OJ. Came up with an offensive line called the Electric Company,
- 13:41and there was a tremendous offensive line and the Bills were setting all kinds of
- 13:46NFL records for rushing in the season, and of course oj was the first
- 13:50running back to run for two thousand yards. Remember it was only a fourteen
- 13:54game season at that time, and he captivated America. He obviously he didn't
- 14:01come out of nowhere. We knew who he was. He was drafted number
- 14:03one overall. He won Heisman trophies. He won the Rose Bowl, which
- 14:07at that time was very, very very important. It was always Pac ten
- 14:13versus Big ten, and that rivalry was like none other between conferences. Playing
- 14:22the NFL, I saw him play because I was a Jets season ticket holder.
- 14:26I saw him play against the Jets four or five times. There was
- 14:31one time. This was in nineteen seventy five. Nineteen seventy five, Yes,
- 14:35and the Jets that held him the whole game. The Jets were ahead.
- 14:41I believe they were head by twenty three to seventeen. I might be
- 14:45a little bit wrong on the score. But they had bottled him up all
- 14:48day. They keyed on him. They bottled him up well. He takes
- 14:52a little swing pass midway through the fourth quarter, takes a little swing pass
- 14:56at the line of scrimmage, runs through the whole York Jet team swirling,
- 15:01and he had just say such great balance and took that screen pass for a
- 15:07touchdown and the Bills won the game. To see him run was it was
- 15:13exhilarating. It was at another level. His running style was you know,
- 15:20unique. I know Jimmy Brown said that he you know, he didn't like
- 15:24some of his running style. But the guy's running style was spectacular. He
- 15:26was, like I said, he was much must watch TV. He made
- 15:33you jump out of your seat. He was so hard to tackle and you
- 15:39know the obviously like all running backs, he he wore down. He ended
- 15:43up his career with the Niners for a couple of years and really they didn't
- 15:48do anything. But OJ was on the other side of the hill at that
- 15:52time and then became America's darling. Everybody in America loved O. J.
- 15:56Simpson, whether it was whether it was as you said it and naked done.
- 16:00He was on TV shows he was I believe, yeah it was ny
- 16:06and football wasn't He was comator on Monday Night Football. He was a longtime
- 16:11sideline reporter for NBC Sports for their their NFL football package on Sunday afternoons.
- 16:21He was a spokesman for Isa Tona Gloves. There's you know there is uh.
- 16:26I believe there was a spot where he's actually holding the gloves are so
- 16:30easy to wear. You can even hold my Heisman trophy. Everybody loved OJ
- 16:34and then did that horrible situation came up where you know, he got you
- 16:42know, where he got involved and uh got acquitted. But obviously a lot
- 16:47of people don't think that that was fair. But whatever. But that's the
- 16:52other side of OJ that we want. We want to think of the OJ
- 16:55that that America loved, the football player, the TV personality, and the
- 17:00funny man. He actually was really funny and me he was he had it
- 17:04all, He had it all, and he threw it away and then you
- 17:10know, he gets this, he gets a second wind and he goes and
- 17:14you know, steals his own memorabilia. I mean, do you think you
- 17:19don't think it was CTE or anything like that that led him to do some
- 17:22of these things that you know, I have to be honest with you.
- 17:26I have thought, I have thought about that. I don't know, you
- 17:30know, obviously I'm not a neurologist. I've never heard I don't know if
- 17:33he was ever checked by a neurologists, but who knows? Who knows?
- 17:38I mean, I don't know. It's just a same shame because he really
- 17:44had he really had the uh, he had everything going for him. Yet
- 17:48everything going for him, And I mean College Football Hall of Famer, NFL
- 17:53Hall of Famer on the Bill's Ring of honor. The Bills have had a
- 17:59lot of great four players. They went to the Super Bowl four straight times,
- 18:03a remarkable achievement. Uh, with Kelly and Andre Reid and all those
- 18:07guys. Bruce Smith, I mean, I would say O. J.
- 18:12Simpson is still the greatest Buffalo Bill. But they've had so many, so
- 18:18many great players. But it's a shame the way it came to an end.
- 18:22And I didn't even know that he had the prostate cancer. I did
- 18:26not. I did not know that until I got the alert this morning that
- 18:30he passed away. I guess it is a weird day because normally we mourn,
- 18:33but I know there's a sector that won't in a sense more in his
- 18:37law. It's very weirdy, it's the weirdest thing ever. It's very it
- 18:41is very bizarre. It's very weird because in a sense, he was a
- 18:45cultural icon. He was a cultural He went from he went from cultural icon,
- 18:52sports icon to really in most people's mind a cultural villain, and and
- 19:00it's it's really it's it's really strange. I like to think of oj watching
- 19:06the watching the Rose Bowl and him beating Indiana in the Rose Bowl game and
- 19:11the famous game against Gary Bieben and Ucla Biban I believe had won the Heisman
- 19:17Trophy. He was a quarterback for UCLA, had won the Heisman Trophy the
- 19:19year before, and I think they were one two. I think I think
- 19:26USC was one and UCLA was two, and they were playing for a Rose
- 19:30Bowl bid. At that time, both UCLA and USC played at the Los
- 19:34Angeles Coliseum. Now USC just plays at the Coliseum and UCLA plays at the
- 19:41home games at the Rose Bowl. Again, he took a hand off midway
- 19:45I would say, midway through the fourth quarter, went left, cut back
- 19:49to the middle, went ran through the whole UCLA team beat UCLA twenty one
- 19:53to twenty. Ucla missed an extra point earlier in the game, which was
- 19:57a difference in the game. That was a remarkable a remarkable game that was
- 20:02on ABC and ALEX. You gotta remember in those days before nineteen eighty four
- 20:07and the Congress overthrew the NCAA saying that they can only televised one or two
- 20:17games a day. That was it, not the thirty games that you see
- 20:19on TV nowadays. That was one of the games at ABC televised that day,
- 20:23and it was a classic USC UCLA game. Well, it's kind of
- 20:30odd that it has happened at the time of the I'm watching there's the clip
- 20:34right now with the thumbs up. I'm seeing that right now on the New
- 20:37York Post website. The PAC twelve dissipates OJ. It just I don't know,
- 20:45I guess like you that way. It's true. It's true, as
- 20:49is the PAC twelve dissolves and OJ's no longer with us. See. My
- 20:56thought was it could be a sign that thirty years later the Rangers, uh
- 21:00might have a Stanley Cup. I mean, the guy made the news on
- 21:03the on the day of the parade. I mean, there's got to be
- 21:07some synchronicity to this team. Now. I don't know. I just feel
- 21:08thirty years later, something's got to give you the rate. You could be
- 21:12right, you could be right. We'll see what signs are are ahead for
- 21:18us here. But I just want to get your taken for me again.
- 21:19It's just it's it's a very bittersweet kind of day because it really is Alex,
- 21:26because he was a marvel to watch and I got to watch him growing
- 21:30up on The Naked Gun. I mean, there were some things I liked
- 21:32about the guy, and he was so funny. Oh and and of course
- 21:37he uh I didn't get to watch him play, but his charisma was so
- 21:41glaring even through the television screen no matter where he saw him, right,
- 21:45you used the right word charisma. He was charismatic and everything that he that
- 21:52he did either on the screens, I'm guessing not seeing the true crime stuff
- 21:59because you don't want to think him that way. I mean there's been a
- 22:00lot of true crime series on this guy too. I mean it's just I
- 22:06try not to watch that stuff, to be honest with you, Yeah,
- 22:11I don't watch that stuff either, Alex. I really don't. But here
- 22:17we are, and now that Bronco is going to be on for a long
- 22:19time the next few days, and you know, it is kind of comforting
- 22:23to though he was surrounded by friends and family. I mean, he didn't
- 22:26totally alienate everybody in the world. Maybe people thought he did, but he
- 22:30still had his circle, right, I guess I guess he did. You
- 22:36know, I'm sure he had. I'm sure his family was around him and
- 22:44you know, as he passed away today. But I mean he, like
- 22:51I said, he threw it all the way and he really It's really sad
- 22:56and is That's what it is at the end of the days. It's just
- 22:59sad kind of day because this guy could have been really idolized by so many
- 23:04more people with all his things going for him. But you know what,
- 23:10that's why I want to get your take on it, because I don't know
- 23:11the whole sports history of him. You know it better than anybody else.
- 23:15That's why he turned to Terminello's take for news events like this and it is
- 23:18a news event and at sports event all in one. Yep. But sure
- 23:22is. And one last thing. He continued his social media career. He
- 23:27did have a Twitter account TikTok. I mean, he was still very vocal
- 23:30towards the end. I don't know if you know that, but he was
- 23:33still online and talking about different topics of the day. I know he was
- 23:37online. I know he commented on a lot of different topics, but I
- 23:40didn't. I mean I don't, as you know, I don't follow I've
- 23:45gotten out of a lot of social media for a lot of different reasons.
- 23:49And that's I guess what made ojoj because no matter what happened, he was
- 23:53just out. He was he spoke his mind no matter what. Yeah,
- 24:00I did. Well that's that. We are going to move on now to
- 24:03something great tomorrow with Dave Popgin a little lighter note as Seaton Hall brought home
- 24:10the n I T And you know, I just think it's great both championships
- 24:12staying in the Biggie in the in the Eastern seaboard here with Ukon and see
- 24:17now we'll get into that so some brighter days ahead, right Lou, Absolutely
- 24:22all right. That's it for today on the Alex Scatt Podcast Network