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RIP Charlie Kirk and Shame on Anyone Celebrating · The Wes Carroll Morning Show

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  Speaker 1: The news, opinions, commentary and interviews you need to start
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  Speaker 1: your day. You're listening to The West Carrol Morning Show.
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  Speaker 2: Thursday morning, eleventh day of September. I'm Wes, thanks for
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  Speaker 2: joining me. It's a hard one today for a number
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  Speaker 2: of reasons. It's not just the anniversary obviously of the
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  Speaker 2: September eleventh attacks now twenty four years ago, but yesterday
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  Speaker 2: we had a reminder that our liberties can always be
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  Speaker 2: under attack, and standing up for things can always be
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  Speaker 2: under attack, and we saw this play out yesterday and
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  Speaker 2: the horrific assassination of Charlie Kirk, the founder of Turning
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  Speaker 2: Point USA and someone who has in many ways greatly
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  Speaker 2: shaped and impacted the current direction of where things are
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  Speaker 2: going politically in the country, not necessarily on I guess
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  Speaker 2: on principle, but mostly just on the way that he
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  Speaker 2: has helped to shape the way that people discourse about
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  Speaker 2: politics and creating an environment where younger people are interested.
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  Speaker 2: College age students become interested, college age students learn to
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  Speaker 2: formulate and be able to have discussions and be able
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  Speaker 2: to actually discuss where things are coming from when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to their political opinions. But it's not just that
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  Speaker 2: it's also the fact that this was a person who
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  Speaker 2: was very outspoken on his faith, someone who I consoled
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  Speaker 2: someone yesterday who was just asking like, how does this happen? How?
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  Speaker 2: And there's no answer other than evil. I mean, there's
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  Speaker 2: no answer other than that. But the one thing that
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  Speaker 2: you know, this and this was someone who was really
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  Speaker 2: upset and you know, someone who really enjoyed hearing Charlie
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  Speaker 2: Kirk speak, who enjoyed the way that he approach approached
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  Speaker 2: conversation topics, felt like he was doing great work in
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  Speaker 2: the world. I agree on all of those sentiments. And
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  Speaker 2: the only thing that I could say, and I may
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  Speaker 2: get emotional this morning, I'm already there's a lot going on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm still still kind of medicated this week. There's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But this, this is uh, this is one of those
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  Speaker 2: things that to me, and I didn't know Charlie Kirk personally.
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  Speaker 2: I never met him, never never talked with him directly.
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  Speaker 2: He's one of those people though that you've seen him
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  Speaker 2: in discussions and in debates and in you know, there's
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  Speaker 2: a countless stream of videos of him discussing politics and
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  Speaker 2: his faith online. And it's really one of those situations
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  Speaker 2: where it's easy to feel like you get to know
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  Speaker 2: somebody through that. One of the things that I feel
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  Speaker 2: like I'm confident with with Charlie Kirk concerning his faith,
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  Speaker 2: in his outspoken his outspoken desire, at least it seemed
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  Speaker 2: to bring those to Jesus. And all I could tell
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  Speaker 2: this person I was talking to yesterday, and they probably
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't mind if I said who it was, But to
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  Speaker 2: simplify it was just to say, look, I believe what
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  Speaker 2: I witnessed of this person of Charlie Kirk, of who
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  Speaker 2: he was and as a man of faith, is that
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  Speaker 2: I believe that he felt like if him dying yesterday
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  Speaker 2: meant someone would be brought to Jesus, he would probably
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  Speaker 2: have been okay with it. And I believe that was
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  Speaker 2: probably an accurate description of it. It should be all
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  Speaker 2: of our desires as Christians, those who share the faith.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that should be ultimately, you know, we celebrate
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  Speaker 2: a savior who made the ultimate sacrifice for us, and
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  Speaker 2: that's really what the endgame is. These little battles and
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  Speaker 2: skirmishes and things that we do concerning politics aside. You know,
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  Speaker 2: we can say we're in a battle for the control
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  Speaker 2: of the country we're in a battle for liberties and
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  Speaker 2: rights and things. But you're talking about somebody in Charlie Kirk,
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  Speaker 2: who was who always put his faith first, and it
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  Speaker 2: was very outspoken about it. I watched a video in
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  Speaker 2: the last week and I'd seen it before, but it
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  Speaker 2: was a video where a woman came in and a
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  Speaker 2: young girl and basically was asking, look, I'm not old
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  Speaker 2: enough to vote yet, and my parents are divorcing and
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  Speaker 2: I'm trying to one of them is conservative, one of
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  Speaker 2: them is liberal, and I'm just trying to figure out
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  Speaker 2: how I honor my parents in this situation. And Kirk said, look,
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  Speaker 2: that's more important than the politics. Honoring your parents is
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  Speaker 2: more important than the politics. You're a teenager, you're not
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  Speaker 2: old enough to vote. Put all that aside. And that
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  Speaker 2: sounds like someone who has their priority straight when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to their faith. There's a lot to digest here,
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  Speaker 2: and as the facts come out and all of the
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  Speaker 2: things that go with this, and I'm not going to
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  Speaker 2: do that. That's not really where i want to go
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  Speaker 2: this morning, and I may go a little short today.
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  Speaker 2: This is just a lot to process and digest, and
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  Speaker 2: often on the anniversary of nine to eleven, discussions come
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  Speaker 2: up about, hey, remember what happened, Remember what we went through,
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  Speaker 2: never forget. And now suddenly we have this horrible event
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  Speaker 2: from yesterday that will now be cemented as another day
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  Speaker 2: in the month of September that we're going to have.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, Charlie Kirk not a politician. There was
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  Speaker 2: always discussion, hey, maybe someday he will be. He was
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  Speaker 2: always as someone who since he came on the scene,
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  Speaker 2: since founding Turning Point USA in the early days, he
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  Speaker 2: started to become an influence in politics. And he certainly
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  Speaker 2: did a lot to get young people motivated and interested,
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  Speaker 2: and I think did a lot to shape where things
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  Speaker 2: are going. There's a lot of people that have said
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  Speaker 2: they don't know that Donald Trump is president a second
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  Speaker 2: time if not for Charlie Kirk and the work that
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  Speaker 2: he did, the groundwork that he laid. And I think
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  Speaker 2: even the White House has echoed some of those sentiments.
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  Speaker 2: But let's start first and foremost with this. A man,
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  Speaker 2: a human being, was assassinated in cold blood. That's what
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  Speaker 2: we know. Someone took a shot at a human being,
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  Speaker 2: A father of two, a son and a daughter, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, a husband. This is someone who was a
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  Speaker 2: family member who was a friend to many, someone who
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  Speaker 2: was looked up to and respected. And we can't sit
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  Speaker 2: back and right away say we know all of the motivations,
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  Speaker 2: but we can assume some things at this point. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to come at this from a news standpoint
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  Speaker 2: and say here's the motives. What I can tell you
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  Speaker 2: is that they're monsters that are celebrating this assassination, this
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  Speaker 2: cold blood at assassination, saying that he deserved it. Why
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  Speaker 2: because he had different opinions than them. See that's where
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  Speaker 2: we are, and let's be honest here. This is about
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  Speaker 2: having different opinions. This is about celebrating the death of
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  Speaker 2: a human being because you didn't agree with what they
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  Speaker 2: felt about something celebrating their death. And I'm not just
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  Speaker 2: talking about the people who just changed the channel and
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  Speaker 2: ignored it and pretend like it didn't happen. Maybe that's
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  Speaker 2: the way that you deal with it, and you just
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  Speaker 2: kind of pretend it was nothing and you move on.
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  Speaker 2: But there were a lot of people yesterday and a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people this morning that are celebrating this, and
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  Speaker 2: that's horrible. There's no word for it. Evil is the
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  Speaker 2: word for it. If you're celebrating the death of a
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  Speaker 2: human being because you don't agree with their politics. It's evil.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know of another way to put it. I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where else to go with it. It's the worst.
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  Speaker 2: You're the worst for feeling that way. And this isn't
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  Speaker 2: just about Charlie Kurk. This is about anyone you celebrate
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  Speaker 2: someone someone being assassinated. And we still have people that
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  Speaker 2: are celebrating the shooting of the United Health CEO. They
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  Speaker 2: still think that's funny, they still think that that's great
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  Speaker 2: because you know, other healthcare companies maybe did something bad
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  Speaker 2: to a person, so he decided to assassinate someone who
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  Speaker 2: had nothing to do with it, but you know, same
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  Speaker 2: job title. And that's just where we are. We're at
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  Speaker 2: this phase now where everything doesn't go our way, doesn't
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  Speaker 2: go exactly the way we want it to. So it's
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  Speaker 2: okay for something horrific to happen to someone else. And
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  Speaker 2: it's not even to get into the people who celebrated,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the attempted assassinations of Trump and disappointment that
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  Speaker 2: he wasn't killed and all those things, because all of
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  Speaker 2: that is certainly in play in this kind of discussions.
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  Speaker 2: But we're talking about someone whose life was ended for
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  Speaker 2: going to colleges around the country and really around the
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  Speaker 2: world and just having discourse, free speech, conversation where you
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  Speaker 2: sit down and you say you have that opinion, I
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  Speaker 2: have this opinion. We have different opinions and they bounce
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  Speaker 2: ideas off of one another. Civil discourse, something that Charlie
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  Speaker 2: Kirk was an advocate for. Did things get a little
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  Speaker 2: aggressive and hostile at times, Sure, that happened sometimes, most
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  Speaker 2: of the time it was civil, and most of the
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  Speaker 2: time you could have a conversation with him if you
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  Speaker 2: went to one of the events, and maybe you walked
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  Speaker 2: away saying I don't agree with him, I hate his guts,
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  Speaker 2: but he had the guts to be there. Now. One
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  Speaker 2: of the things that still amazes me, and I had
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  Speaker 2: this thought yesterday, is I'm impressed that he was still
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  Speaker 2: out doing these kinds of events at colleges. I can't
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  Speaker 2: imagine that they went into this thinking that they were
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  Speaker 2: able to have the kind of security now that they've
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  Speaker 2: been able to have in the past, and obviously that
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  Speaker 2: was the case. But he loved doing this. He loved
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  Speaker 2: getting out and interacting with people. This is one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that he believed in This is one of
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  Speaker 2: the things that he was all about, and he supported
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  Speaker 2: many others doing the same thing. Now, don't confuse what
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  Speaker 2: he was doing with what some of the others do.
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  Speaker 2: There are others who were very confrontational. This isn't just
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  Speaker 2: the I'm going to sit here with a table and
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  Speaker 2: prove me wrong. And I heard a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: saying that he was doing the prove me wrong thing,
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  Speaker 2: and maybe at one point that's what he was doing,
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  Speaker 2: but that's really not what he was doing yesterday. That's
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  Speaker 2: not what he was out doing. This wasn't a come
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  Speaker 2: out and prove me wrong. It was about having discourse.
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  Speaker 2: This was about having conversations and understanding where each other
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  Speaker 2: was coming from, and him having an opportunity. Yeah, he
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  Speaker 2: gets the last word. He's the host, But you had
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  Speaker 2: an opportunity at those events if you went there to
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  Speaker 2: discuss whatever it was with him and express whatever it
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  Speaker 2: was that you disagreed with him on, whatever it was
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  Speaker 2: that you hated his guts for. And some coward decided
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  Speaker 2: to take the opportunity to take a shot, and that's
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  Speaker 2: how his life ended. So what doll we take away
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  Speaker 2: from this? Where are we as a country where we
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  Speaker 2: have so many cowards that aren't willing to allow civil discourse,
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  Speaker 2: so many people that are afraid to allow people to
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  Speaker 2: sit down and have a conversation without resorting to violence.
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  Speaker 2: I saw people yesterday already screaming for gun control. Well,
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  Speaker 2: he was an advocate for guns, and this is what
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  Speaker 2: killed him. You can't take a gun your team, shoot
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  Speaker 2: someone and then blame it on the gone. That's not
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  Speaker 2: where this goes. It's on your team. It's on you,
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  Speaker 2: the person who decides to pull the trigger. And I
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  Speaker 2: know as I'm recording this, this is all Like I said,
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  Speaker 2: there's this is a fluid thing. There's gonna be more
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  Speaker 2: revelations that are gonna come out. I can sit here
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  Speaker 2: now and tell you the motives or my opinions, but
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  Speaker 2: I know this. If you celebrated the assassination of Charlie
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  Speaker 2: Kirk yesterday, you're horrible. You're horrible for it. There's redemption
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  Speaker 2: you can find that, you are able to have that,
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  Speaker 2: there is grace waiting for you. But if you're sitting
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  Speaker 2: there now and you're stewing in it, and you're just
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  Speaker 2: so excited and you're just in it's a festering thing
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  Speaker 2: somewhere deep down inside of you that maybe feels like
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  Speaker 2: it's the right thing because you didn't like his politics.
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  Speaker 2: Grace can break you free from that. Charlie Kirk would
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  Speaker 2: point three five times more attractive to mosquitoes than non drinkers. Also,
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  Speaker 2: don't wear sunscreen, which means you know, they've got a type.
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  Speaker 2: I guess. I don't know. There seems to be a
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  Speaker 2: very loose kind of type. It's not a specific type,
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  Speaker 2: but there's some things in there. I don't know how.
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  Speaker 2: The sunscreen not where. I guess maybe they're just not
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  Speaker 2: fully taking care of their body. They're not showering, they're
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  Speaker 2: not wearing sunscreen. I don't know. It's a it's a
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  Speaker 2: type of some kind. I guess that'll do it for
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