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Is OK To Punish Your Child On Social Media? Former NFL Star Is Taking Heat For It · I Do, Part 2

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Speaker 1: Hey, the folks, it is Saturday, June twenty seventh. Then, yes,
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Speaker 1: parenting sometimes means you have to punish. But when does
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Speaker 1: that cross over into abuse? Well maybe when you post
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Speaker 1: the punishment online for the world to see. And that
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Speaker 1: is what has a former NFL pro bowler the center
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Speaker 1: of everybody's attention right now. With that, welcome to this
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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ.
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Speaker 2: Rose.
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Speaker 1: There's kind of two steps here with this one. You
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Speaker 1: can just question the punishment itself, and then the other hand,
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Speaker 1: you question posting it.
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Speaker 3: Correct So it's about whether or not the discipline fits
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Speaker 3: the crime.
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Speaker 4: So people are weighing in on that.
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Speaker 3: But a lot of folks I feel like there's a
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Speaker 3: general consensus that, regardless of the answer to the aforementioned question,
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Speaker 3: it's probably never okay to then put that punishment on
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Speaker 3: your social media page when you have hundreds of thousands
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Speaker 3: of followers, because it's as an additional public humiliation.
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Speaker 1: Is there any upside? You know, I didn't think about
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Speaker 1: I was asking this question. Is that Can that be
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Speaker 1: part of the punishment? Yes, I mean publishing.
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Speaker 3: Look, there are different Look I have heard you and
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Speaker 3: I both had old school punishment coming up. We both
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Speaker 3: got spanked until a certain age, and that was just
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Speaker 3: the way it was. Obviously that's not how people operate now.
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Speaker 3: But it's one of those things where there's a fine
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Speaker 3: line between doing something privately and then taking whatever punishment
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Speaker 3: you've given your child and making it publicly known. I
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Speaker 3: know one of my friends told me her punishment was
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Speaker 3: that she had to wear the same outfit to school
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Speaker 3: all week, basically form of I know, right, But as
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Speaker 3: a girl in middle school, that is humiliation. That's a
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Speaker 3: form of public shame to me, just personally speaking, I'm
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Speaker 3: all about teaching a child a lesson.
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Speaker 4: I do believe in discipline. I do. I think you
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Speaker 4: have to. The caption of his post was this is
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Speaker 4: my son, not my friend.
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Speaker 3: I actually really subscribe to that. Especially when they're younger.
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Speaker 3: You can't try to earn their affection. You have to
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Speaker 3: earn their respect, and that involves punishment. But public shame,
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Speaker 3: public humiliation to me.
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Speaker 4: Is a whole other level.
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Speaker 1: Okay, something we've certainly gotten away from. But hasn't this
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Speaker 1: been a part of I'm going back to the dunce
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Speaker 1: cap I mean, I go back to Wow, this what
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Speaker 1: we used to do. I'm trying to think of me
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Speaker 1: being in school and things and ways where there was
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Speaker 1: some outward display where you were humiliated, where you did
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Speaker 1: have to go sit in a corner, where you did
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Speaker 1: have to go do things that were shaming. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: Well, in my elementary school, it was a Catholic elementary
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Speaker 3: school in the Midwest, there was absolute flogging. There were
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Speaker 3: punishments with spank My brother got a spanking. You might
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Speaker 3: have to stay after school and literally do the you know,
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Speaker 3: shamefully writing whatever your crime was on the chalkboard over again.
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Speaker 3: I remember one of my punishments as a kid was
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Speaker 3: to have to stand publicly in a corner with my
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Speaker 3: nose in the corner. So, yes, not a dunce cap,
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Speaker 3: but you know, shame, shame, shame. The idea was, yes,
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Speaker 3: you are, you should feel bad about what you've done.
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Speaker 1: And I'm sure people have gotten away from that. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure if some psychologists would tell me why this is
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Speaker 1: a bad idea, you'd never ever do it. However, it's
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Speaker 1: not that foreign at least this part of the story
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Speaker 1: that people are talking about. It maybe isn't that foreign
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Speaker 1: of an idea to shame even the child, yes, for
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Speaker 1: their bad behavior, I.
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Speaker 3: Would say in recent history, I would say the last
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Speaker 3: generation of parents has not.
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Speaker 4: I would say as a whole.
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Speaker 3: Obviously it's a little bit different, but generally speaking, most
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Speaker 3: parents have gone away from that, Yes, okay, gone away
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Speaker 3: from that, certainly from any sort of physical punishment, and
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Speaker 3: I think from any sort of public humiliation or shaming.
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Speaker 3: It's more like you want your child to learn from
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Speaker 3: it and grow from it.
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Speaker 4: And what do you feel about it?
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Speaker 3: And I know a lot of our parents and maybe
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Speaker 3: even some of us are rolling our eyes because you
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Speaker 3: need to just actually accept consequences. And yes, the learning
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Speaker 3: can come later, the consequences need to come immediately. This
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Speaker 3: all is being talked about because of a video, a
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Speaker 3: video that we didn't say his name yet, right, And
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Speaker 3: you can talk a little bit about who Brandon Marshall
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Speaker 3: is because I'm not somebody who is. He's not a
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Speaker 3: household name for me. But this guy is a big
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Speaker 3: deal within the NFL.
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Speaker 1: Correct, Yeah, longtime receiver played the thirteen seasons, I believe
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Speaker 1: it was. But he was a big time record setting,
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Speaker 1: league leading, six time pro bowling.
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Speaker 4: That's a funny favor.
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Speaker 1: He's that kind of good. He's yes, So he had
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Speaker 1: a long, long and he was a superstar in the league,
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Speaker 1: and he got involved with advocacy for mental health and
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Speaker 1: became a even more engage and prominent member of the
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Speaker 1: NFL family because of that. So he is within that family.
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Speaker 1: He's a big deal.
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Speaker 3: You pulled that just right out of your brain. I
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Speaker 3: actually had written it down, you nail. At thirteen seasons
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Speaker 3: in the NFL, he holds the league record for the
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Speaker 3: most receptions in a single game, that's twenty one catches.
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Speaker 3: He owns the Denver Broncos single game reception record with eighteen.
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Speaker 4: So yes, he was a big deal.
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Speaker 3: Just wanted to kind of like give anyone listening, if
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Speaker 3: you're like me, some perspective as to who this guy is.
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Speaker 4: So he posts on.
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Speaker 3: Instagram this week a video of his eleven year old
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Speaker 3: son Z and he is running in the middle of
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Speaker 3: the night and you see Marshall driving slowly next to
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Speaker 3: him giving him orders like a coach would give a kid.
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Speaker 4: And we have the audio actually, because so how long
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Speaker 4: is the video?
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Speaker 1: This one's only about a minute, but the thing he
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Speaker 1: posted goes two and a half minutes or something plus.
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Speaker 1: But yeah, he's just slowly and to visualize, just imagine
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Speaker 1: seeing a ten year old even seven year old kid
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Speaker 1: right outside the window. It is black and Brandon Marshall
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Speaker 1: is shooting. You don't see Brandon, but he's shooting the
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Speaker 1: video right outside the window, and the clearly the car
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Speaker 1: is going really slowly. The kid is barely running. It's
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Speaker 1: not even a fast walk at times, and he's trying
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Speaker 1: to get him to speed up. But he says, it's
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Speaker 1: at two in the morning, and this is what it
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Speaker 1: sounded like.
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Speaker 2: Discipline, correction is good even two in the morning. We run.
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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna put my hands on you, but
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Speaker 2: I'm training you up to be a warrior. I'm training
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Speaker 2: you be up to be a leader, to serve, to
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Speaker 2: have discipline, to be better than me.
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Speaker 5: Run. Run, let's go. If you don't start running, we're
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Speaker 5: gonna go three miles. So you better start running because
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Speaker 5: you don't know when I'm gonna tell you to stop.
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Speaker 2: You don't want to listen. We run, We work two
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Speaker 2: in the morning. Let's go.
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Speaker 3: All right, What is your initial impression as a father
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Speaker 3: saying those things to his son with him running alongside
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Speaker 3: him at two o'clock in the morning.
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Speaker 1: You know what I didn't. I'll be honest with you,
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Speaker 1: I didn't mind almost a bit of it. I almost
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Speaker 1: didn't mind a bit of it, I understand, and it's
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Speaker 1: worthy of a debate or a question or an interest.
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Speaker 1: A question is probably the more thing. Get curious about
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Speaker 1: him and his family and his background and how he
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Speaker 1: grew up, and why get curious, but to get critical
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Speaker 1: of him and how he goes about it. It might
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Speaker 1: not be my way and the way I go about it,
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Speaker 1: But I don't even have much in the way of
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Speaker 1: criticizing how this guy decides to discipline his kid. We
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Speaker 1: don't know exactly what the kid did, how many times
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Speaker 1: it's been an issue like this. Punishment might fit the
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Speaker 1: crime for all we know, So there's some questions there.
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Speaker 1: But I think just generally speaking, when you hear someone
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Speaker 1: say you made a eleven year old kid run at
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Speaker 1: two in the morning, that to most people would sound inappropriate.
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Speaker 3: Correct, But I have to say I'm with you when
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Speaker 3: I watched him, and I saw the love and the reason,
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Speaker 3: Like you could just tell this as a father who
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Speaker 3: cared about how his kid turned out, and it's not
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Speaker 3: some horrific thing to have to have a kid run.
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Speaker 3: The kid was not running that fast, and I actually
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Speaker 3: was thinking, look, my kids might see this video and say, Mom,
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Speaker 3: you weren't too much further away from this, like they're look,
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Speaker 3: I didn't record them and I didn't post it, and
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Speaker 3: we can have a conversation about that. But I will
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Speaker 3: be transparent here and say that just in my kids
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Speaker 3: wanted to join in some very adventurous activities with me,
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Speaker 3: and I said, if you do that, you have to
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Speaker 3: be trained. And they wanted to be you know, just
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Speaker 3: kids not really working for something. And so I had
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Speaker 3: to push them and I had to bark at them,
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Speaker 3: and I had to get tough with them to make
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Speaker 3: them run, to get them conditioned to do this thing
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Speaker 3: they said they wanted to do.
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Speaker 4: So I actually, look.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't a punishment, but I have pushed my kids
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Speaker 3: through pain and pass pain where they were angry at me,
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Speaker 3: and I thought, God, am I being am?
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Speaker 4: I Is this too much? Have I crossed the line?
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Speaker 1: That's coaching?
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Speaker 3: You know what?
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Speaker 1: I get that that's coaching. What he was doing was parenting.
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Speaker 1: It did seem different. It seemed like he was teaching
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Speaker 1: him a life lesson, not an athletic one. You're right, so,
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Speaker 1: and I don't mind robes I did. I didn't look
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Speaker 1: at the kid and feel like he was being abused physically.
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Speaker 1: I felt like he was being punished by sleep being
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Speaker 1: taken away. That was the most difficult part. Maybe it
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Speaker 1: was wasn't a school night. I don't know, but I
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Speaker 1: could see why just on the surface, and I see
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Speaker 1: why folks would immediately want to take issue but robes.
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Speaker 1: But we got to this is where I have a
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Speaker 1: very hard time. Even I have a problem with somebody's parenting,
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Speaker 1: you will never hear me question it publicly. You are correct,
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Speaker 1: but part of the steel robes we have to understand
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Speaker 1: different backgrounds, different families, different upbringings, and different challenges to
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Speaker 1: where there might be something he needs to teach his kid.
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Speaker 1: You never thought you need to teach yours exactly.
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Speaker 4: I and people have brought that up.
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Speaker 3: We'll get into the comments in a moment, but I
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Speaker 3: actually just wanted to also put out this thought. Here's
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Speaker 3: Brandon Marshall. He has three kids. He's divorced from their mom.
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Speaker 3: It was a twelve year marriage. So he's got three
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Speaker 3: kids and z is a part of a twins Z
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Speaker 3: and ZIGGI, eleven year old twins. And he has another son, Zoe,
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Speaker 3: who's seven. Look, this is a man who cares about
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Speaker 3: his kids. He's divorced, he could walk away, he could
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Speaker 3: do a lot of things a lot of dads do.
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Speaker 3: He is in his kid's life and he cares and
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Speaker 3: I appreciate it. So I just think that should be noted.
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Speaker 3: This is a man who is invested in his kid's outcome.
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Speaker 1: No, I mean, I don't want to go down that
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Speaker 1: rabbit hole because that was about to. But it's why
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Speaker 1: can't we applaud Yeah? Right, it's the first thing we do. Right.
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Speaker 1: We see this, this this athlete, this black father, fathering
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Speaker 1: hard yep, and he gets criticized. Ah, we should ask
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Speaker 1: ourselves sometimes why we view things through whatever lens that
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Speaker 1: you may have. Again, somebody might be out there and again, Rose,
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Speaker 1: now I would take more of a conversation about him
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Speaker 1: posting it now that Okay, that's a different one.
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Speaker 4: I agree with.
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Speaker 1: That's a different conversation.
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Speaker 4: Yes, one hundred percent.
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Speaker 3: So how about that When we come back, we will
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Speaker 3: get into what most people were saying in their comments,
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Speaker 3: and it's actually really interesting where they take issue with
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Speaker 3: what Marshall did. And my favorite part of this whole
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Speaker 3: story might be Marshall's clap back to some of the
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Speaker 3: comments and what he told People Magazine when they asked
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Speaker 3: him about the controversy, and welcome back everyone to this
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Speaker 3: episode of Amy and TJ. We're talking about former NFL
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Speaker 3: star Brandon Marshall disciplining his child and posting his form
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Speaker 3: of punishment online for all to comment on. Yes, he
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Speaker 3: had his eleven year old son's e out running at
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Speaker 3: two am because he wasn't listening. I mean, that's the
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Speaker 3: best we can gather from the video. And look, Brandon
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Speaker 3: Marshall stands by it. He said, look, I am not
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Speaker 3: my son's friend, I am his father. And yes, he
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Speaker 3: did get a lot of reaction. I think it's fair
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Speaker 3: to say this has become quite the controversy and people
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Speaker 3: have very different thoughts on not only his decision to
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Speaker 3: discipline his son in this way, but his decision to
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Speaker 3: then post the video of the punishment. Yes, I do,
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Speaker 3: I do so here's one of the first ones. You
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Speaker 3: should never discipline a child with embarrassment. It messes up
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Speaker 3: their mental health state. Kids are people too. This is
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Speaker 3: so lame. It didn't need to be public. If this
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Speaker 3: is how you wanted to discipline, that's fine. You did
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Speaker 3: this to show off on the internet. I hope you
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Speaker 3: take this down and I read some of your comments.
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Speaker 4: Learn how to.
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Speaker 3: Take constructive criticism, my guy, Most of us aren't trying to.
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Speaker 4: Hurt you, just giving good feedback.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know what the back and forth and
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Speaker 1: how much stuff? Right, I got some of that the
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Speaker 1: stuff he's responding with.
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Speaker 3: Okay, yes, so someone else wrote y'all acting like this
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Speaker 3: is hurting his son. He's teaching correcting behaviors before the
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Speaker 3: streets do.
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Speaker 1: Now. That's uh, that's spoken like a black person.
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Speaker 4: Yes, and I you know what.
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Speaker 1: That's he's teaching him the lesson before the streets do.
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Speaker 3: No.
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Speaker 1: I was about to say something else, Go.
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Speaker 4: Ahead, keep on all right? How about this? This was
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Speaker 4: another one in support.
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Speaker 3: Did this same thing with my nephew every time he
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Speaker 3: lacked discipline. He graduated with a three point sixty five GPA,
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Speaker 3: became an All American best defensive player in Florida. Now
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Speaker 3: plays at DAU and thanks me for days like this,
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Speaker 3: So saying keep.
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Speaker 4: Going this is good. Kids need this sometimes.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and the kids some kids don't we know, don't
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Speaker 1: we teach and punish kids differently based on write their background?
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Speaker 1: How much they need, how much you might need to
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Speaker 1: raise your voice to this one versus that all kinds
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Speaker 1: of stuff. Bro, Yeah, I don't know. It's tough to
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Speaker 1: criticize anybody's parenting. It's just that's that's just one of
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Speaker 1: those things baby, you don't touch because you just don't know.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, okay, this next person, well they waited in differently.
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Speaker 3: They said, this, sir is whack and embarrassing. I have
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Speaker 3: four young men, all whom I had to discipline at
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Speaker 3: some point, but I never embarrassed my children, especially in
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Speaker 3: this era. This has gone viral, so the amount of
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Speaker 3: jokes and laughs from his peers he has gotten could
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Speaker 3: shatter his confidence.
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Speaker 4: Kings.
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Speaker 3: Real kings move with a stern but fair hand and
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Speaker 3: always protect the kingdom.
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Speaker 4: This is completely not needed. But do what you do.
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Speaker 1: Okay, And you said what you said. I mean, so
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Speaker 1: you put something out there, then you open yourself up
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Speaker 1: to criticism, so you have to be willing to take
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Speaker 1: it when it comes. I get that.
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Speaker 3: I just and a lot of people said, hey, he'll
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Speaker 3: thank this for you later. I think what I got here,
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Speaker 3: thank you.
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Speaker 1: For this later. Yes, you said it in one of
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Speaker 1: those weird things. I say, I'll thank this for you later.
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Speaker 4: Oh, I said, he'll sorry. They said, he'll thank you
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Speaker 4: for it later.
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Speaker 3: But I think for me what I read mostly was
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Speaker 3: people upset that he posted it, but look so okay.
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Speaker 3: So so, when someone made a comment about how he
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Speaker 3: should be running with his son, not riding in a
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Speaker 3: car next to him, Marshall wrote this back, I just
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Speaker 3: had a procedure on my back.
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Speaker 4: I can't run.
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Speaker 3: But if you know me, you know I'm going to
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Speaker 3: lead from the front of all rooms. And then when
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Speaker 3: someone else commented this is a family business, not an
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Speaker 3: Instagram business, he said, that's.
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Speaker 4: Your way, not my way.
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Speaker 3: So he kept He went back and responded to a
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Speaker 3: lot of this criticism. But my favorite of what he
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Speaker 3: had to say was People magazine asked him to respond
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Speaker 3: to all the negative reaction, all the folks coming at him.
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Speaker 4: Here was his response.
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Speaker 3: I would like to add that I'll be sleeping on
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Speaker 3: a yacht for the next week in the French riviera.
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Speaker 3: Oh and Jesus is good.
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Speaker 1: I didn't like that. I didn't like that.
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Speaker 4: Y'all mind your business.
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Speaker 3: But look, he did put it out there, and it
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Speaker 3: look is there a way in which you could see
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Speaker 3: he wasn't just trying to get attention for himself or
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Speaker 3: say look at me and see what I'm doing. Could
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Speaker 3: it be that he actually was trying to show a
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Speaker 3: strong black man leading a young black man down the
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Speaker 3: right path.
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Speaker 1: And that's just the thing and what he's run into.
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Speaker 1: People are deciding what path that should be for that
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Speaker 1: young black man. Who are we to decide other than
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Speaker 1: his dad? And I just I do not, I have
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Speaker 1: no I try to find a way to criticize him
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Speaker 1: for this, and I just I just can't. I wonder, robes,
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Speaker 1: and we're in a different age of social media. Does
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Speaker 1: this for us feel like something that maybe it doesn't
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Speaker 1: feel like to the kid. Does the kid maybe think
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Speaker 1: it's cute? Does the kid maybe robes in this new era,
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Speaker 1: maybe this ain't a big deal. We think the kids
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Speaker 1: being shamed because it's going viral. Maybe the kid is like,
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Speaker 1: has no idea or doesn't care, or thinks it's cool,
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Speaker 1: or has a different mindset about social media than we
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Speaker 1: ever did.
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Speaker 4: I just don't know that's so true.
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Speaker 3: And look to Brandon Marshall, I have to say I
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Speaker 3: do feel a little bit of a kindred spirit because yes,
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Speaker 3: I didn't put anything up on social media about me
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Speaker 3: disciplining my children. But when I did publicly discipline my children,
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Speaker 3: which I did when they misbehaved in public, I.
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Speaker 4: Had Ava stand up in a corner at a restaurant.
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Speaker 3: I had Analysco stand up against a building and sit
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Speaker 3: there with her nose up to the building for five
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Speaker 3: minutes to calm down because she was misbehaving. I had
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Speaker 3: people walk by me and tell me that I was
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Speaker 3: crushing the spirit of my child and I should be
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Speaker 3: ashamed of myself. I had people commenting on me disciplining
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Speaker 3: my children in public. But I am of belief that
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Speaker 3: when a child misbehaves, especially at a certain age, they
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Speaker 3: need to be disciplined immediately. They don't know when you
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Speaker 3: have a lapse of time. They don't even connect the
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Speaker 3: bad act with a consequence.
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Speaker 4: So that's just how I operate.
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Speaker 3: But I have been chastised and publicly shamed to my
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Speaker 3: face by New Yorkers.
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Speaker 4: God love them.
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Speaker 3: They always have an opinion when I discipline my child,
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Speaker 3: and I remember I said to one of them, you'll
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Speaker 3: thank me for this later because my child is going
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Speaker 3: to be a well intentioned, well mannered part of society.
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Speaker 3: So you're welcome and please keep walking. But I do
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Speaker 3: kind of feel like that for Brandon Marshall.
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Speaker 1: I do, yes, it's I don't know what I don't know.
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Speaker 1: It's just this is another one of those things where
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Speaker 1: I just give somebody a little space and a little grace.
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Speaker 1: It's okay, and he's doing something a little different. Maybe
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Speaker 1: be curious about what he's doing and why he's doing it,
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Speaker 1: versus just being immediately wanting to criticize him for doing it.
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Speaker 4: That's all right.
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Speaker 3: Showing a kid there are consequences, and showing a child
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Speaker 3: that they can push past pain and they're stronger than
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Speaker 3: they think.
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Speaker 1: That part. I do love.
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Speaker 4: These are all good things.
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Speaker 3: I don't think that that even comes close to child abuse.
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Speaker 3: And by the way, I love that he's showcasing this
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Speaker 3: and maybe saying to other parents, you know what, you
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Speaker 3: can actually call your kids on their stuff and they'll
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Speaker 3: actually rise up to the occasion. You get what you
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Speaker 3: expect in life and especially from your kids. I applaud
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Speaker 3: his message. I'm just going to go out and say it.
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Speaker 3: I think I have no problem with what Brandon Marshall is.
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Speaker 1: And again, based on the information we have, we don't
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Speaker 1: know this guy personally. Nope, we don't know what's going
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Speaker 1: on behind the scenes. We're just taking what the information
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Speaker 1: we have and the conversation that's going on.
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Speaker 3: Okay, just yesterday and we're wrapping up here, but think
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Speaker 3: about it. We were out to dinner last night outside
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Speaker 3: beautiful night.
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Speaker 1: Oh my lord.
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Speaker 3: Parents let their kids run a monk these almost damaging property,
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Speaker 3: ringing bells, disrupting the peace, screaming, and they're completely ignoring
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Speaker 3: their children. And so to me, those parents should be
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Speaker 3: called out on social media, not Brandon Marshall.
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Speaker 1: I say those kids were public nuisance. Yes they were.
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Speaker 1: It was embarrassing at the type of parenting we saw.
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Speaker 1: And again we can say this now because we don't
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Speaker 1: nobody knows the parents were talking about, so it was correct,
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Speaker 1: but they were almost You talk about abuse, yea, those
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Speaker 1: kids were jumping up and down on city bike stands
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Speaker 1: that if one slip that kids emergency room abuse, yes,
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Speaker 1: and I would testify against that parent.
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Speaker 3: You have this conversation and I said, wow, do those
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Speaker 3: parents want to tempt having to go to a New
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Speaker 3: York City emergency room on a Friday night because their
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Speaker 3: kids are one like millimeter away from literally going away
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Speaker 3: in an ambulance right now. So yes, I those are
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Speaker 3: the types of people were probably commenting on Brandon Marshall
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Speaker 3: because they're appalled that he would dare discipline his child. Anyway,
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Speaker 3: just wanted to hop on and have that fun conversation everybody.
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