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- 0:00Everyone. This is Molly Gamble with Becker's Healthcare.
- 0:02Thank you so much for tuning into the
- 0:03Becker's Healthcare podcast series.
- 0:06In this special edition of the podcast, we
- 0:08are sitting down with two guests, Surya Kalluri,
- 0:10head of the TIA Institute,
- 0:13one of the most respected research organizations in
- 0:15the financial services industry.
- 0:17Joining Surya is Stephanie Connors, president and CEO
- 0:20of BayCare Health System. Stephanie is the inaugural
- 0:22recipient of the TIAA Institute Louise Whitfield Carnegie
- 0:26Award, a distinct honor that recognizes exceptional leadership
- 0:29in the healthcare C suite.
- 0:31Today, we will dive into the TIAA Institute's
- 0:34powerful research, health and wealth, two sides of
- 0:37the same coin,
- 0:38explore what it means to lead with purpose
- 0:40in one of the most demanding industries in
- 0:42the world, and celebrate a leader whose impact
- 0:44on health care is nothing short of extraordinary.
- 0:47Surya and Stephanie, thank you for being here
- 0:50today.
- 0:51Thank you for having us. Thank you, Molly.
- 0:53Surya, I'm gonna turn to you first here
- 0:55with a couple questions. First, can you tell
- 0:58us about the TIA Institute's research mission and
- 1:01why health care leadership has become such a
- 1:03focus area for your work? And then also,
- 1:05what was the driving force behind the introduction
- 1:07of this new health care award?
- 1:10Wally, thank you so much. It's a real
- 1:11pleasure joining you and Stephanie for this conversation
- 1:14today.
- 1:15And thank you for allowing me to speak
- 1:17a little bit about the TI Institute.
- 1:20At the institute, we generate research
- 1:23and insights that help people and institutions
- 1:26make better decisions
- 1:28around financial well-being,
- 1:30around retirement security,
- 1:32and honestly,
- 1:33long term resilience.
- 1:36And over time, we have come to understand
- 1:38in a
- 1:40very deep way,
- 1:41as you said in your opening remarks, that
- 1:44health and wealth
- 1:45are not two separate conversations.
- 1:48Indeed, we think of them as two sides
- 1:51of the same coin.
- 1:52We simply cannot have meaningful conversations
- 1:55about financial security and well-being
- 1:58without also taking health into account. And on
- 2:01the other hand, we cannot talk about health
- 2:03without acknowledging
- 2:05economic forces
- 2:06that shape access,
- 2:08quality, and the outcomes.
- 2:10So
- 2:11health care
- 2:12has become a very natural focus for us,
- 2:15an area that we are kind of been
- 2:17doing research on
- 2:18because of the scale and complexity
- 2:20of the challenges
- 2:22that the health care sector faces.
- 2:24We're talking about an industry that employs
- 2:26millions of people,
- 2:28anchors communities as we're gonna learn shortly,
- 2:31and is under enormous and simultaneous
- 2:33pressure such
- 2:35as workforce shortages,
- 2:37burnout that our research shows, financial sustainability,
- 2:41and, of course,
- 2:42without question, the rapid technological transformation.
- 2:46And the leaders,
- 2:47in health care are navigating all of that
- 2:49and deserve serious attention,
- 2:51serious research, and recognition.
- 2:54So to conclude the answer to this two
- 2:56part question, Molly,
- 2:58this is what really drove us to create
- 3:00this award.
- 3:01We wanted to actively recognize and celebrate leaders
- 3:04who are doing the hard
- 3:06values driven work of building strong, resilient
- 3:10health care organizations.
- 3:12Really helpful, Surya, to understand your focus area
- 3:14at the TIAA Institute on health care and
- 3:17then also the impetus for this award.
- 3:19I wanna go back to the name of
- 3:21it, the TIAA
- 3:22Institute Louise Whitfield Carnegie Award.
- 3:26It recognizes exceptional health care leadership. Can you
- 3:28briefly walk us through, Surya, the criteria
- 3:32behind this honor,
- 3:33and what specifically distinguished this year's winner?
- 3:37Terrific question.
- 3:38Molly, we were very intentional
- 3:41about designing this award. It was rigorous,
- 3:44credible,
- 3:45and grounded in values.
- 3:47And so we drew upon our experience with
- 3:49another institute award that we have for leadership
- 3:52excellence in higher education,
- 3:54and we established
- 3:55five
- 3:57core evaluation criteria that we applied,
- 4:00for this inaugural
- 4:02round as well. The first is visionary leadership,
- 4:05meaning the ability to see around the corners
- 4:08and set a direction that inspires an organization.
- 4:11The second is measurable impact
- 4:14because leadership has to translate into real outcomes.
- 4:18The third is workforce engagement, and I'm particularly
- 4:20passionate about this.
- 4:22Workforce engagement, which is especially resonant given the
- 4:25staffing and burnout challenges across the sector
- 4:28that our research has clearly shown.
- 4:31The fourth is partnership within an institution
- 4:34across the broader health care community and maybe
- 4:36even across sectors.
- 4:38And the fifth and final is health care
- 4:40transformation.
- 4:42The degree to which a leader is actively
- 4:45moving the needle
- 4:46on how care is delivered
- 4:48and how organizations
- 4:50evolve. A little bit about the process
- 4:53that was also equally rigorous,
- 4:56a distinguished panel of five judges
- 4:58with expertise spanning health care delivery,
- 5:01policy,
- 5:02leadership
- 5:04independently
- 5:05scored each finalist
- 5:06and ranked
- 5:08and finally came together for a facilitated discussion
- 5:10to reach consensus.
- 5:12And the results were anonymized
- 5:14and aggregated toward to ensure fairness.
- 5:17What distinguished
- 5:18Stephanie Connors,
- 5:21president and CEO of BayCare Health System, was
- 5:23the strength of Stephanie's record across every single
- 5:27one of these criteria.
- 5:29The judges were particularly struck by the combination
- 5:32of measurable organizational impact,
- 5:35deep and authentic commitment to workforce engagement,
- 5:39and a genuinely
- 5:40community centered approach to care.
- 5:43So Stephanie's leadership reflects the spirit of this
- 5:46award
- 5:47in its fullest,
- 5:48and the spirit is rooted in the legacy
- 5:51of Louise Whitfield Carnegie,
- 5:53a philanthropic leader who would champion public health,
- 5:57human dignity,
- 5:58and equity
- 5:59during some of the most challenging periods of
- 6:02our country's history.
- 6:03So we could not be more proud
- 6:05that Stephanie is our inaugural
- 6:08recipient of this award.
- 6:10Thanks for taking us behind the scenes, Surya,
- 6:12of of the method and the criteria.
- 6:14Five really meaningful things that you were considering
- 6:17as you looked at the contenders for this
- 6:18recognition.
- 6:19Stephanie, time to turn to you and hear
- 6:21from the first ever recipient of the Louise
- 6:24Whitfield Carnegie award. First of all, congratulations.
- 6:27Second, what does this recognition mean to you?
- 6:31Thank you. I'm
- 6:32when I heard the five points clearly stated,
- 6:35again, it's I I can't tell you how
- 6:37much it means to me. I don't live
- 6:39my life expecting to be recognized. I never
- 6:42have. But when
- 6:44recognitions is meaningful come forward, it really grounds
- 6:47me in my purpose and my why.
- 6:50Not because of the award, but because what's
- 6:53being noticed is making a difference. That's just
- 6:57an incredible gift to know that what I'm
- 6:59doing is changing
- 7:01the course of
- 7:02health care, not because of the care that
- 7:04we're delivering, but the people that are delivering
- 7:06it. And that's important because we can't deliver
- 7:08exceptional care without great people.
- 7:11So I'm really deeply humbled and grateful. I
- 7:13hope you know my appreciation is beyond words.
- 7:17You mentioned, Stephanie, that you have background as
- 7:19a nurse. That's how you began your career.
- 7:21You mentioned these 34,000
- 7:23teammates who you described as the heart of
- 7:25BayCare.
- 7:26But if we can, I'd love to just
- 7:27take a moment and learn a bit more
- 7:29about your leadership style.
- 7:31I think as Surya laid the groundwork and
- 7:33spoke to, healthcare leadership right now comes with
- 7:36enormous complexity from the workforce challenges within,
- 7:39the patient outcomes, financial sustainability,
- 7:42more and more external pressures.
- 7:44What leadership philosophy has really guided you and
- 7:47continues to guide you through those pressure points?
- 7:50Thanks for the question. It's a very good
- 7:52one. So coming up as a nurse, but
- 7:55also from my childhood,
- 7:56there's several things that I've learned.
- 7:59Well, one is resilience
- 8:02and two is courage. Because in health care,
- 8:05you have to have the resilience to adapt
- 8:09to not only life changing
- 8:11experiences
- 8:12for yourself and for others,
- 8:14but also the courage to take leaps to
- 8:17define health care of the future. We can't
- 8:19be traditional any longer.
- 8:21Our community and the world needs us to
- 8:24be bold and to think differently.
- 8:26And empowering individuals to think bold,
- 8:30bring those good intentions forward with a desire
- 8:33to be a part of the solution
- 8:34is really a framework
- 8:37of my leadership. I believe that
- 8:39creating that runway for individuals to be the
- 8:42best of who they are
- 8:43and giving them those opportunities
- 8:46creates such an incredible environment of innovative and
- 8:50bold thinking.
- 8:51Leadership
- 8:52and caring,
- 8:54they go hand in hand.
- 8:55When you think about what nurses do every
- 8:59single day in caring for the population,
- 9:01and then the multidisciplinary
- 9:03team that works alongside
- 9:05to deliver that extraordinary care,
- 9:07it takes a lot of grit.
- 9:09And I believe that as a leader,
- 9:12your your role is
- 9:15integrity. It's dedication to meaningful impact.
- 9:18But giving those individuals
- 9:20everyone you surround yourself with, from the person
- 9:22who greets you at the front door to
- 9:25the individual that takes you out
- 9:27to your car to go home or to
- 9:30bring you back into the environment where you
- 9:32thrive.
- 9:33It's a complex journey,
- 9:35and we, as leaders, have to give
- 9:39everyone who surrounds us the opportunity to make
- 9:41it better.
- 9:42And so in our world of health care
- 9:44today, we're evolving.
- 9:47We are innovating.
- 9:49We are advancing health care in ways that
- 9:51are
- 9:52unique,
- 9:53but bold.
- 9:54And day care specifically
- 9:57is very much at the forefront
- 10:00of technology and advancing care. We're doing so
- 10:03many things right now with this large
- 10:05force
- 10:06to make sure that no one ever has
- 10:08to leave West Central Florida for care. We
- 10:11wanna take care of patients from first breath
- 10:13to last breath. There's no need that they
- 10:15need to leave. And our organization
- 10:18is has been very successful in advancing the
- 10:21environment
- 10:22so that you can live, work, and play
- 10:24where
- 10:25you where where your home is, where your
- 10:27family is, and where you wanna be, and
- 10:29where you can be most healthy.
- 10:31Stephanie, I love that. I love that that's
- 10:33the way you're focusing on health care excellence,
- 10:35and I think it goes back to Syria's
- 10:36point about health and wealth
- 10:38so well and sticking close to home when
- 10:40you're able to with great care available to
- 10:42you.
- 10:43One reason awards like this can be really
- 10:46meaningful
- 10:47is not only for the existing leadership and
- 10:49those currently in leadership positions, but also for
- 10:51the next wave of healthcare leaders who are
- 10:53coming up, the the next generation of executives
- 10:55who are watching or listening right now.
- 10:58Stephanie, what would you say is the most
- 11:00important piece of advice that you would share
- 11:02with them as they're building their careers, especially
- 11:04in these challenging times?
- 11:06This is my favorite question
- 11:08because leadership is about impact. It's not the
- 11:11title. In fact, I often say, one day
- 11:13when I'm no longer on this earth, I
- 11:15wanna be remembered as
- 11:17a great mom,
- 11:18a loving wife,
- 11:20a good friend, and someone who made a
- 11:22difference in the lives of others. Sometimes one
- 11:24person at a time and sometimes in my
- 11:26situation, 34,000.
- 11:27A title is temporary, but the impact you
- 11:30have on the human life is forever.
- 11:33And I believe that as leaders, everyone has
- 11:35the ability
- 11:37to make a difference, but not only as
- 11:39leaders, those that you influence. So when I
- 11:42speak to individuals coming up in the ranks
- 11:44or saying in their exact role for their
- 11:47entire career, what I tell them is this,
- 11:50I never dreamed of being a CEO.
- 11:52I became a nurse, and I thought I
- 11:54hit that pinnacle.
- 11:56And
- 11:57individuals saw things in me that sometimes I
- 11:59never even saw on myself,
- 12:01but I always worked the hardest in every
- 12:03job I was in. I was never looking
- 12:05for the next thing. So what I like
- 12:08to
- 12:09really help people understand
- 12:11is
- 12:12that if you are your best
- 12:14in every job that you have or in
- 12:16everything that you do in life, that you
- 12:18give it the best of who you are.
- 12:20And as in leaders, we enable you to
- 12:22be the best of who you are. You
- 12:25will reach that pinnacle. And that may be
- 12:27something very different than my journey, but it's
- 12:30your journey, and your journey is as special.
- 12:33So be the best human that you can
- 12:35possibly be.
- 12:36Live with integrity. Live with compassion.
- 12:39Drive yourself in ways that you never dreamed
- 12:43possible,
- 12:44take measured risk.
- 12:46There are so many possibilities out there. Surround
- 12:48yourself with incredible people.
- 12:51I as I was coming through my career,
- 12:53there were so many individuals that I looked
- 12:56at that I thought, wow. One day,
- 12:59I wanna be just like that, and that's
- 13:01because of who they were as a person.
- 13:04And then there were other individuals that I
- 13:06looked at and I thought, don't repeat those
- 13:08behaviors because
- 13:10that's not who I want to be. So
- 13:13avoid those that you
- 13:16don't want in your circle that will influence
- 13:19you negatively and surround yourself with those that
- 13:21will influence you positively
- 13:23because it's important that not only do you
- 13:26learn from your mentors on what to do,
- 13:28but you also learn what not to do.
- 13:31And when you give people that runway to
- 13:32be their best human
- 13:34possible
- 13:35and you are your best self,
- 13:37then it's remarkable what you can accomplish together.
- 13:39So that's my message.
- 13:41Be the best person you can possibly be
- 13:43at every step of your life,
- 13:45and the world will return in return give
- 13:48you what's possible.
- 13:51Stephanie, just a real privilege to be able
- 13:53to hear from you and hear your thoughts
- 13:55and hear you speak to some of the
- 13:56pillars, those five pillars behind this recognition as
- 13:59you live them daily.
- 14:00Surya, I'm I'm gonna turn back to you
- 14:02here. Having heard just now from this year's
- 14:05Louise Whitfield Carnegie award recipient about the pressing
- 14:08challenges and the bold steps needed to move
- 14:10health care leadership forward,
- 14:12what can we expect from the institute in
- 14:14the future as it continues to champion the
- 14:16connection between health, wealth,
- 14:18and strong leadership in health care.
- 14:21Wally, thank you. And I also wanna thank
- 14:23you for asking that third question, especially, miss
- 14:26Stephanie. How inspiring was it to listen to
- 14:28that answer?
- 14:29It reminds me of a column I read
- 14:31ten years ago
- 14:32about distinguishing between
- 14:34resume virtues and eulogy virtue virtues, which is,
- 14:38you know, who are you as a human
- 14:39being? It was genuinely inspiring to listen to
- 14:42Stephanie articulate that. And what Stephanie has shared
- 14:46in the responses to your questions
- 14:48really
- 14:49reinforces
- 14:50something that we believe deeply at the institute,
- 14:53that the well-being of people who lead our
- 14:55health care system is inseparable
- 14:57from the well-being of patients and the communities
- 15:00that they serve. So going forward,
- 15:03you can expect the TI Institute to continue
- 15:06deepening our research
- 15:07at the intersection of health and wealth with
- 15:09a particular focus on the forces shaping the
- 15:12health care workforce,
- 15:14such as financial security,
- 15:17burnout,
- 15:18talent retention,
- 15:19and the evolving,
- 15:21what we call
- 15:22employee
- 15:23value proposition
- 15:25that health care organizations
- 15:27need to get right
- 15:29if we continue to want to attract and
- 15:32keep the best people.
- 15:34We will also continue to invest in recognizing
- 15:37and convening
- 15:38the leaders who are driving this sort of
- 15:41meaningful change.
- 15:42Our hope is that over time,
- 15:45this award becomes one of the most meaningful
- 15:48recognitions in the health care leadership
- 15:50and signals to the entire sector
- 15:52that excellence,
- 15:54values,
- 15:55and impact matters.
- 15:57Thank you, Surya, for the look ahead. I'm
- 15:59gonna go back to something that Stephanie had
- 16:01said as we wind down here. She sees
- 16:03her role as serving the 34,000
- 16:06individuals who serve the BayCare community
- 16:08and ensuring that community has the opportunity to
- 16:11receive outstanding care at home from first breath
- 16:14to last.
- 16:15What stands out to me most today in
- 16:17this conversation is how the well-being of those
- 16:19who lead our health care system
- 16:21is not distinct from the well-being of the
- 16:23patients and communities they serve. They are deeply
- 16:25connected.
- 16:26When we invest in the financial security and
- 16:28overall wellness of our health care leaders, we
- 16:31are really investing in the future of healthcare
- 16:33itself.
- 16:34To Surya and Stephanie, I wanna thank you
- 16:36for your time, your candor, your commitment to
- 16:38making a difference in healthcare and beyond.
- 16:41We at Becker's also wanna thank our podcast
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