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October 16, 2019 | Men of Success - Fall 2019: The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership - Session 6 · Topeka Bible Church Audio Archive

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  SPEAKER_02: Good morning.
• 0:01
  SPEAKER_02: How you guys doing?
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_02: So this is Men of Success.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_02: We've got uh like four more, I think, four or five more weeks.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_02: So let's talk sports.
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_02: So last night, U.S.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_02: men's soccer hit a new law.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_02: This is the Canada first time in 34 years.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_02: I'm going to, hey, uh, Paul, do you mind if I hand you this mic and you tell tell hey, would you mind telling everybody exact what you do, where you work?
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_02: Paul's actually like uh knows more about soccer than maybe anybody in the country and has done it professionally.
• 0:41
  SPEAKER_02: But anyway, would you uh tell about this and why this is a little bit shocking?
• 0:46
  SPEAKER_02: Tell uh first tell where you uh where you work.
• 0:49
  SPEAKER_02: You used to work for ESPN.
• 0:51
  SPEAKER_00: Hi.
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  SPEAKER_00: My name is Paul Carr.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_00: I worked at ESPN for 10 years, and I uh I'm from Topeka, took a different job about a year and a half ago, and I moved back here to be closer to family and friends.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: So here I am.
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  SPEAKER_00: And at ESPN I covered soccer, especially a couple World Cups on site and things like that.
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  SPEAKER_00: But last night, the US, the short version is they were not good at all.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: It wasn't one of those games where you just kind of get unlucky and outplayed them and should have won.
• 1:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like they weren't good.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so the concern is you're losing to these teams that Canada's been a sleeping giant in the region for a while, but you're losing to these teams that you need to dominate.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's like be like the, I don't know, Yankees start losing to the Orioles or something like that.
• 1:32
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like you've got to beat down, beat down these other teams in your region, and they didn't, and they're not very good, and people are starting to get concerned that the new coach uh may not get it together in time for World Cup qualifying next year because the US missed the last one, and if that happens again, there will be much uh gnashing of teeth.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: Have they made coaching changes or anything?
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: What's that?
• 1:54
  SPEAKER_00: Have they made coaches changed?
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: They got they hired a new coach end of last year, so he's been almost a year on the job, and a lot of that was just kind of transition and you know getting your style and your guys and all that, and now is when it should count or when the team should have it together, and they don't yet.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: So it's strange.
• 2:12
  SPEAKER_00: I don't I think everyone's kind of confused.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like the talent seems to have dissipated and the plan isn't being executed, and other than that, everything's fine.
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  SPEAKER_02: Other than that, everything's fine, other than not being in the World Cup.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_02: Other than yeah.
• 2:30
  SPEAKER_02: So uh that that was interesting.
• 2:33
  SPEAKER_02: Uh that happened last night.
• 2:35
  SPEAKER_02: So we just don't have a lot of good sports news to share anywhere across the board.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh, this is my title, no news network, but it looked to me like Holmes is begging for help.
• 2:49
  SPEAKER_02: This is in a 31 to 24 loss that actually, oh well.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_02: Enough said.
• 2:54
  SPEAKER_02: That was painful.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh, and that's two losses in a row.
• 2:58
  SPEAKER_02: And uh who thinks we're gonna beat the lowly Denver Broncos at Denver tomorrow night.
• 3:03
  SPEAKER_02: Hmm, way to go.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'm so proud of you.
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  SPEAKER_01: Three people.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, yeah.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_02: Thank you, Jay Quill.
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  SPEAKER_02: I appreciate that, buddy.
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  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, saw that.
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  SPEAKER_02: Give them a shout out.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_02: And uh let's talk K State.
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  SPEAKER_02: So we lost TCU seems like a team we might be able to beat.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh I don't know if you remember last year.
• 3:23
  SPEAKER_02: We went, I think, down there and beat them in every possible way, except we had some horrible turnovers and lost 14 to 13.
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  SPEAKER_02: So um hopefully uh though we have a new coach, we'll get revenge this weekend.
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  SPEAKER_02: Should be a two.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're both three and two in the league, but they Hornfrogs have gotten to play the Jayhawks, so they have a better record in league in the league than than we do at this point.
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  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, and KU uh who played uh number five rated Oklahoma last week has another easy game this week.
• 3:59
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 4:01
  SPEAKER_02: So I I remember like a month ago, Rodney.
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  SPEAKER_02: I mean, we were coming in here just floating.
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  SPEAKER_02: All of our teams were winning at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_02: We're thinking Super Bowl and BCS and whatever.
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  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, uh and and I think uh you're gonna talk a little football today.
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  SPEAKER_02: I'll talk a little football today.
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  SPEAKER_02: So our first uh would you take this law then?
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  SPEAKER_02: The law of the inner circle.
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  SPEAKER_02: Oh, by the way, like so I don't know if you ever watched The Office, but I got this.
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  SPEAKER_02: I love I love it.
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  SPEAKER_02: A leader's potential is determined by his inner circle.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's the subtitle that's the subtitle that John Maxwell uses of this chapter.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh Maxwell starts off by saying, you know, it's tempting when we look at people who have had a ton of success and to think that those people have have done it and they've done it on talent alone.
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  SPEAKER_03: They've they they have more talent than you or I do.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh they've had more opportunities than you and I have.
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  SPEAKER_03: And if we had those opportunities, if we had that natural talent that like they do, that we would be successful.
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  SPEAKER_03: He says, if you start to believe that, you're starting to believe a lie.
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  SPEAKER_03: Because the truth is that there are no Lone Rangers when it comes to success, when it comes to leadership.
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  SPEAKER_03: Leaders don't do it alone.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and that nobody does anything great alone.
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  SPEAKER_03: That if we're going to be great, it's gonna be because uh we practice the law of the inner circle.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_03: The law of the inner circle is that that those a leader's potential, our potential as men in leadership in our homes, in our businesses, uh, our spiritual lives, it's gonna be determined by those people who are closest to us.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_03: Um so uh I John Maxwell tells a story about Lance Armstrong in the book.
• 6:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um I'm not really into cycling, uh don't really follow it that much, so I don't understand all of the uh ins and outs and uh how a team like that works together.
• 6:17
  SPEAKER_03: It was it's fascinating to read about how Lance Armstrong, you know, outside of the illegal substances and whatnot that he's done.
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  SPEAKER_02: You had to have a team there too.
• 6:27
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: But if you put all that to the side to think about the team that he he he put together in order to be successful, winning as many Tour de Frances as he as he did.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_03: I want to give you guys an example from that comes from just kind of the coaching realm.
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  SPEAKER_03: You think about uh college football, uh, and you always or you think about football in general, uh you always hear about people talking about guys' coaching trees.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_03: Uh so you know, you think about Bill Snyder and his coaching tree that he has, uh, all the assistants that have coached underneath him that have made him successful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Bill Snyder didn't do it alone.
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  SPEAKER_03: He had guys on his staff like Bob Stoots.
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  SPEAKER_03: I look at Bob Stoops, he's retired now, and I thought it's so interesting.
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  SPEAKER_03: You look at OU today.
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  SPEAKER_03: Bob Stoops stepped away because he saw a young guy like Lincoln Riley.
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  SPEAKER_03: He says, Hey, it's time for me to go.
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  SPEAKER_03: This guy, he's made me successful.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh and now it's time for me to step away.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh next two guys, you know, one Urban Meyer, uh, he's been successful wherever he goes because he has assistance.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then uh you think about Nick Saban, constantly successful.
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  SPEAKER_03: You think about all the different schools that go and pluck his assistants to be their coaches, it's because Nick Saban has an inner circle of guys that are pushing him to constantly get better, to constantly think about different things, and that's why he's had success.
• 7:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's because those guys who are closest to him have helped push him towards his potential, and he's helped push them towards their potential.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um and so Maxwell, you know, he says that um, you know, we all we all create our our own inner circles.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh most of the time we do it just unintentionally.
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  SPEAKER_03: There's nothing wrong with it.
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  SPEAKER_03: We we surround ourselves.
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  SPEAKER_03: I surround myself with people that I like, people that I'm comfortable with.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um but in order to practice this law of inner circle, we have to be intentional about it because of the fact of that um when we when we're intentional about it, what what we here's what I don't realize.
• 8:40
  SPEAKER_03: I don't realize that um my potential is is is allowed, is gonna be stunted or it's gonna be allowed to grow by the people that are around me.
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  SPEAKER_03: And that's gonna be my cap.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's gonna be kind of my what I'm gonna do.
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  SPEAKER_01: It reminds me of the first law, the law of the lib.
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  SPEAKER_01: The law of the lib.
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  SPEAKER_01: Where you're capped.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh so that you know, my leadership potential is gonna be determined by those people that I put around me.
• 9:07
  SPEAKER_03: What's also gonna be true is that uh not only is my leadership potential gonna be capped by those people that I put around me, but the people who follow me, if I never reach my full potential, they'll never be able to reach their full potential either.
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  SPEAKER_03: So my if I never become the man that I need to be, my kids maybe not become the people that they need to be because I'm not the leader that I need to be.
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  SPEAKER_03: The people at work they never reach their full potential because I never reach my full potential.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so as we start to think about okay, who are the types of people that we want to be adding to our inner circle?
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  SPEAKER_03: Maxwell gives us four questions to ask about when when you're evaluating someone, should I add them?
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh the first one is one, does he or she have a high influence with others?
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh leadership, as we talked about a couple weeks ago, is nothing but influence, the ability to influence people.
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  SPEAKER_03: So can those people that are in your inner circle influence other people and can you learn from them about how they influence other people?
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  SPEAKER_03: Number two, does he or she bring uh a complimentary gift to you?
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  SPEAKER_03: Um I'll give you guys an example of this.
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  SPEAKER_03: I was riding home from the airport a couple weeks ago with my with my boss, and he said, you know, when I hired you, the you know, the organization came to me and said, Hey, go hire your replacement.
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  SPEAKER_03: He said, When I hired you, I didn't hire you to be a direct replica of me.
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  SPEAKER_03: I hired you because you had different skill sets, different gifts than I do.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, and I wanted you on my team because uh I didn't think you were gonna be a yes man.
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  SPEAKER_03: And I just thought, wow, what what a great leader he is to recognize that he didn't want a whole bunch of people just like him.
• 10:57
  SPEAKER_03: He wanted people that are different than him to add to the organization, to add to our department, to add to him as he continues to lead, that's gonna help push him to grow.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um number three, does the do they hold a strategic position?
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  SPEAKER_03: Now, this is talking more about business, and so in your jobs, do you do you have people that are in your inner circle that hold strategic positions?
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  SPEAKER_03: The reason why he says this is that you need to be on the same page with those people uh so that that way there's not um conflict, that you guys are all on the same path, headed down the same direction.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then number four, does he or she add value to me and add value to the organization?
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you know, it's uh it's okay to be picky.
• 11:43
  SPEAKER_03: Uh last semester we covered the book by Greg Brennerman.
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  SPEAKER_03: He talked about, you know, at times he would allow people into his inner circle, and at times he would remove them.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's okay for us to be picky on those people that we allow closest to us.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um because it's going to determine the types of men that we become, uh, and the types of leaders that we become.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then the last couple points that he makes is to never stop improving your inner circle.
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  SPEAKER_03: Continue to get better, continue to add people, continue to evaluate the people that are in your circle, and then to know that success not does not come from not what you know, but who you know and how you present yourself to them.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_03: Um so I just have a couple questions for us as men.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, you know, who is in your inner circle?
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  SPEAKER_03: Look around uh the people that you you have in your life, whether intentionally or unintentionally, um what are those things that your inner circle is pushing you towards?
• 12:49
  SPEAKER_03: Uh are those if those there are certain things that pop into your head, and my inner circle is pushing me to be uh to care more about money, to care more about the kind of neighborhood that I live in, to care about things that maybe when I stand before the Lord, I'm not gonna be very proud of.
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  SPEAKER_03: You need to remove some people from your inner circle.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um maybe you don't have an inner circle.
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  SPEAKER_03: Maybe you're a lone ranger.
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  SPEAKER_03: You have life alone.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't have anybody who's pushing you as a leader.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't have anybody who's pushing you as a spiritual man.
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  SPEAKER_03: You don't have anybody who's pushing you to think about and to apply God's word to your life.
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  SPEAKER_03: Anybody who's pushing you in leadership.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um, who could you add to your inner circle?
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  SPEAKER_03: There's people that come into your mind right now that, hey, I need to have this guy in my inner circle.
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  SPEAKER_03: He's he's gonna really push me.
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  SPEAKER_03: And then lastly, uh my last question for you are you are you a valuable asset to someone else's inner circle?
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  SPEAKER_03: You're a liability.
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  SPEAKER_03: People don't want you around.
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  SPEAKER_03: What type of leader are you?
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  SPEAKER_03: What type of man are you?
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  SPEAKER_03: Uh and then how can you, how can we improve as men that we could be assets to other people?
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  SPEAKER_03: That people would say, I don't want you in my inner circle because I want to do life with you, because I know that you're gonna push me to godliness.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_03: I know that you're gonna push me to be a better husband, a better father, a better leader in my organization, in my business.
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  SPEAKER_03: Um so think about that.
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  SPEAKER_03: Mull over those things not only today, but next weeks, next couple weeks.
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  SPEAKER_03: Cool.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_02: So there were a couple of um there were a couple of one-liners in that chapter that um that that I really liked that I'd add.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_02: Show me your friends, he says, and I'll show you your future.
• 14:47
  SPEAKER_02: Great leaders surround themselves with people they admire and respect, people they want to become like as they grow.
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  SPEAKER_02: An insecure leader feels threatened when he's not the smartest and most talented person in the room, so he surrounds himself with weaker leaders and inferiors.
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  SPEAKER_02: And this one, you're the average of the five people you spend the most time with.
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  SPEAKER_02: That was a little scary.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, especially for those of you who are homeschooling children.
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  SPEAKER_02: So uh so number 12 is really a different one.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's the law of empowerment.
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  SPEAKER_02: Empowering people is really uh shibboleth today.
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  SPEAKER_02: It's really a cool word.
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  SPEAKER_02: Everybody talks about empowering and empowering and empowering.
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  SPEAKER_02: And it's his 12th law.
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  SPEAKER_02: His point is that leaders become great, not because of their own power, but because of their ability to empower others.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he says the leaders fear to empower others because they're insecure.
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  SPEAKER_02: They oftentimes fear that they'll lose their own power and prestige.
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  SPEAKER_02: But he says, strange as it sounds, great leaders gain authority by giving it away.
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  SPEAKER_02: So surround yourselves with high performers that will extend your influence beyond your reach.
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  SPEAKER_02: But the more I thought about this, the more, and I was talking with uh Dan Skoda back there, who's who's in charge of the uh base.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh he's gonna be mad at me.
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  SPEAKER_02: You're not really in charge of the air base down there, but but you're the colonel and uh who oversees all of those guys.
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  SPEAKER_02: And uh and I just sitting next to him, I suddenly realized the military has has a sort of built-in plan for empowering people and moving them up the ladder.
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  SPEAKER_02: So that Dan, I think, uh told me when he became the number one guy out there that it's like a four-year plan.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_02: Am I right?
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_02: It's a four-year deal, and then you they work you out of a job, and then the next guy comes up, and there's sort of a automatic empowering that goes on.
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  SPEAKER_02: Very interesting.
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  SPEAKER_02: That whole process is very interesting to me.
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  SPEAKER_02: But uh, as a person who's grown up in spheres where you hold on to your power and you don't let go ever.
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  SPEAKER_02: Um, and in fact, you know, when you Google and you go on images about empowering, most of the signs they put up are like never let go of your power, don't let go of your power, don't give anyone else your power.
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  SPEAKER_02: And yet, this principle is that you only succeed by giving it away.
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  SPEAKER_02: Very interesting.
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  SPEAKER_02: And also, I think of some of you here who have children, Jonathan Schumbrat, uh uh Jake, well, again, and you know, he's got a bunch of kids.
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  SPEAKER_02: Well, it seems to me that a parent is constantly thinking, how can I empower my children so that so that they learn responsibility and they learn how to drive and and and I give them duties and you know, so they can become independent and and they're not living uh here at home with me at age 35, and you know.
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  SPEAKER_02: So anyway, I read a book on Lincoln here uh not too long ago, and one of the things that surprised me about Lincoln was how he empowered people who disagreed with him.
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  SPEAKER_02: And some of you are gonna know more about this than I do, but his cabinet here during the Great War, during the Civil War, included a guy named Edwin Stanton.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_02: Edwin Stanton, you know, was uh worked for the guy who opposed Lincoln.
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  SPEAKER_02: He uh Edwin Stanton was a Democrat back then.
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh you may remember that it was the Republicans who were anti-slavery and the Democrats who were pro-slavery.
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  SPEAKER_02: Edwin Stanton uh worked for the candidate who opposed Lincoln and who lost.
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  SPEAKER_02: Edwin Stanton wrote about uh Lincoln's handling of the war in the early days of the Civil War, saying that he was unintelligent and it was wrongheaded and so forth.
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  SPEAKER_02: So Lincoln calls him because he he felt like he was making some good arguments, calls him in and makes him his Secretary of War.
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  SPEAKER_02: Just an amazing empowerment.
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  SPEAKER_02: And he turned out to be he turned out to be terrific.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_02: So uh anyway, and then and then some of you are even more familiar with Lincoln's generals and how he moved from Meade to so forth, and how he eventually got Ulysses S.
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  SPEAKER_02: Grant.
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  SPEAKER_02: He empowers a guy who's a drunk, he empowers a guy who other people make fun of, who's embarrassing at parties, you know, but uh but it's just Lincoln's ability to give away power and empower others, I think is a great example here.
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  SPEAKER_02: So, questions how do I empower other people?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh uh how do you do that as a parent?
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_02: How do I even do that?
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  SPEAKER_02: I am I think consciously how to do that now that I have a 10-year-old grandson, how do I make him independent and help him?
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  SPEAKER_02: I do that constantly, of course, as a pastor.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_02: That should be what all good pastors do.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_02: How do I empower and coach younger guys to take over leadership?
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_02: Furthermore, how well do I empower them?
• 19:41
  SPEAKER_02: How can I do it better?
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_02: What have been empowering experiences in my life?
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  SPEAKER_02: Can I learn from them?
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  SPEAKER_02: So empowering other people changes lives, and it especially changes yours.
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  SPEAKER_02: I suggest in our group discussion today, uh, you ask some of the questions, uh, Rodney, that you already posed with the inner circle, such as who are the people in your inner circle?
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  SPEAKER_02: Are they people you want to become like?
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  SPEAKER_02: Uh should you be moving some of those people out to outer circles?
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  SPEAKER_02: You know.
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  SPEAKER_02: Number two, the law of empowerment.
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  SPEAKER_02: Who empowered you?
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  SPEAKER_02: Who are you empowering right now?
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  SPEAKER_02: Any thoughts about this?
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  unknown: No.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_03: No additional thoughts.
• 20:21
  SPEAKER_02: Isn't it true that, you know, talking about coaches, isn't that basically what coaches do is constantly try to move people up from the second team and third team and empower them to be, you know.
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_02: I noticed that maybe, maybe the Chiefs are just blowing smoke right now.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_02: But you know, uh, yesterday I noticed one of the assistant coaches is saying, Well, no, we don't have our best people, all our starters, but here are two guys that we plugged in, and and we're really we think that by giving them all this experience, they're gonna become great one day.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah, and of course, we'd all like them to become great tomorrow night, but I don't think it's so next week, two more laws, including an interesting one called the law of buy-in.
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  SPEAKER_02: Let's uh uh bow our heads in prayer.
• 21:06
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks, Lord, for the breakfast.
• 21:08
  SPEAKER_02: Thanks for Tom, thanks for the guys who worked hard on that.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_02: Pray for each of these guys, Lord.
• 21:12
  SPEAKER_02: There's stuff going on in each of our lives.
• 21:15
  SPEAKER_02: Stuff with our wives and with our children, uh, with our parents for many of us, uh, with with with work, uh stuff with our health for some of us in this room.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_02: Uh, we ask that we would become the leaders, the Christian men that you want us to become.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_02: In Jesus' name.
• 21:32
  SPEAKER_02: Amen.