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Jeff Legwold joins Moser, Lombardi and Kane 1-8-26 · Jeff Legwold ESPN Broncos Reports

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  Speaker 1: To win games, you have to win the game, not
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  Speaker 1: lose the game.
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  Speaker 2: That is former Miami Dolphin head coach Mike McDaniel, and
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Legwall joins us.
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  Speaker 3: Hello Leggy, good morning fellas.
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  Speaker 1: Hold on, good morning. What did you go to Northern Illinois? No,
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  Speaker 1: where'd you go?
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  Speaker 3: The University of Illinois?
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  Speaker 4: That's your band campaign you're in ALAINI I am indeed
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  Speaker 4: long ago.
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  Speaker 3: Let's just say that up front.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, I guess I screwed up.
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  Speaker 4: Like I was talking to Pat Bryant earlier this season
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  Speaker 4: and uh he asked me at one point what year
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  Speaker 4: did you graduate? And I told him And you should
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  Speaker 4: have seen his face, like he was actually like trying
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  Speaker 4: to do the math.
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  Speaker 1: It's like he saw a corpse, is what happened.
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  Speaker 3: It was like it was like, my god, how are
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  Speaker 3: you not dead?
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  Speaker 1: It's been eighty four years.
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's a lot of questions we got to ask
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  Speaker 2: you because me and most were just talking about the Broncos.
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  Speaker 2: I'll get to that in a second. With the breaking news,
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  Speaker 2: here is Mike McDaniel's been let go from Miami. Does
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  Speaker 2: that mean that Miami's had a talk with Harbaugh already?
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  Speaker 1: What does that mean?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I mean it was his agent told Adam that
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  Speaker 4: seven teams had contacted him when only six had an
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  Speaker 4: opening at the time. So you knew there was another
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  Speaker 4: team ready to fire their head coach if they thought
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  Speaker 4: they could get John Harbaugh and Stephen ross Is, you know,
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  Speaker 4: in the league, is considered one of the more emotional,
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  Speaker 4: you know, bombastic owners. You know, everybody wondered, how are
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  Speaker 4: you going to fire your GM, you know, during the season,
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  Speaker 4: and the coach make it and all of those things.
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  Speaker 4: So I think, you know, I think a lot of
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  Speaker 4: people in the league figured this might happen at some
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  Speaker 4: point before the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 5: But it's It's very interesting though, because the Miami Dolph
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  Speaker 5: cap hell Jeff and their quarterback can't play the game anymore. Listen,
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  Speaker 5: say what you want about Mike McDaniel, and he got
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  Speaker 5: eccentric for god knows what reason. I mean, maybe selth
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  Speaker 5: Beach will do that to a guy. I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Brett would like to find out.
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  Speaker 5: I would he'd like to turn into a weirdy un SELTHEA, Yes,
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  Speaker 5: I would, but I think the guy probably did a
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  Speaker 5: pretty good job. But his quarterback's brain has been scrambled
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  Speaker 5: for three years. Man to a camp, he doesn't play
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  Speaker 5: the game the way he used to play the game.
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  Speaker 5: And when you don't have that, why would you take
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  Speaker 5: that job?
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  Speaker 1: Cap?
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  Speaker 5: Hell, don't have a quarterback and your owner? Yeah, I
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  Speaker 5: mean he's emotional. He signs all these big time free agents,
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  Speaker 5: he spends the money. But is he too emotional? Why
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  Speaker 5: would you want to put yourself in that position?
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  Speaker 4: Well, you know, mo, He's just part of what I
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  Speaker 4: see is a weird time in the league. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: we're talking a quarter of the teams in the NFL
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  Speaker 4: are looking for a new head coach. Yeah, are you
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  Speaker 4: telling me there are eight candidates out there that are
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  Speaker 4: all going to be better than the guys who got fired?
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  Speaker 4: And I just I have a hard time believing that
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  Speaker 4: year to year to year. And I understand, you know, hey,
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  Speaker 4: you know people should get opportunities and you know, let's rock,
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  Speaker 4: But this notion I just see ownership now, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I don't. I don't think more people, more fans get
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  Speaker 4: angry at losing seasons than they did when I first
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  Speaker 4: started covering the league. I don't think there are more
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  Speaker 4: aggravated fans at the end of a year that doesn't
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  Speaker 4: end in playoffs or fun. I just think the owners
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  Speaker 4: can now see them on social media, on whatever platform
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  Speaker 4: people show them or talk about to.
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  Speaker 3: Them, or you know, any of it.
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  Speaker 4: I think that the frustration is more visible, so we
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  Speaker 4: see more emotional reactions to it.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: I just I have a hard time believe in a
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  Speaker 4: quarter of the teams are going to fire their coach
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  Speaker 4: every year and they're all going to improve, and that
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  Speaker 4: that's the move you should make.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. You know, the sad truth of the NFL is
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  Speaker 3: you're not gonna win every year. That's just the bottom line.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't know if firing the coach isn't just
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  Speaker 4: firing one person. I think sometimes we all look at
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  Speaker 4: it like, oh, they just fired one guy. You No,
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  Speaker 4: you're firing a whole way of doing things in your
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  Speaker 4: building and the and the response to that, uh can
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  Speaker 4: take a long time to change. I mean, but again,
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  Speaker 4: you know, other owners see, hey, look what Mike Vrabel did,
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  Speaker 4: Why can't we do that? And I think it all
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  Speaker 4: just works on itself.
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  Speaker 2: Or Miami looks at the Broncos, says Cap Hell with
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  Speaker 2: no quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: Look at John Payton. That's easy.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of teams have done that. I mean, you
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  Speaker 4: got you know, two are considering it. Other teams have
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  Speaker 4: looked at the Broncos, and you know Atlanta is probably
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  Speaker 4: looking at the Broncos in some ways saying, oh, they
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  Speaker 4: did it. But you know, some of these jobs I
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  Speaker 4: don't know. You know, I understand every guy I know
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  Speaker 4: who's coached in the league, or almost every guy, wanted
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  Speaker 4: to be a head coach. But some of these are
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  Speaker 4: not good gigs. You are not going to succeed. You
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  Speaker 4: might as well just take the job, take the money,
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  Speaker 4: and know within two or three years you're getting fired.
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  Speaker 5: You're a big continuity guy. I do know that we've
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  Speaker 5: talked about that on a number of occasions, and I
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  Speaker 5: buy into that too. How much, I guess I don't
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  Speaker 5: really pay attention to this. I think that when you
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  Speaker 5: fire a head coach, you fire, you know, twenty guys
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  Speaker 5: in the staff. How much turnover typically is there for
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  Speaker 5: a coaching staff when you fire the main guy, because
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  Speaker 5: some guys are routined. There ain't no doubt about it,
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  Speaker 5: because you can't just going out and find twenty two
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  Speaker 5: new coaches, including quality controling all this crap.
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  Speaker 4: Well, sometimes, you know when Vance was hired here and
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  Speaker 4: you know in seventeen, he didn't get to pick his
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  Speaker 4: whole staff. You know, they they said, we can't get
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  Speaker 4: rid of some of these contracts and this, We want
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  Speaker 4: this and this and this. So sometimes you don't get
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  Speaker 4: to rehire, you know, hire everybody you want, depending on
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  Speaker 4: how much juice you have when you come in at
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  Speaker 4: the time. You know, when Jim Harbaugh or John Harbaugh
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  Speaker 4: rather gets his new job, he's going to get to
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  Speaker 4: hire whoever he wants because that's he brings a resume
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  Speaker 4: that allows him to do that. But yeah, but you're
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  Speaker 4: hiring a whole draft strategy, you're hiring a free agent strategy.
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  Speaker 4: What kinds of players did that coach want? Who do
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  Speaker 4: you have on the roster? You've built the roster for
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  Speaker 4: the guy that was in charge, and if the next
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  Speaker 4: guy doesn't match that, you're beyond square one. You are
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  Speaker 4: like square negative five to come back from that.
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  Speaker 2: Jeffleagwell at ESPN dot com with us all coversations with
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  Speaker 2: the Leggy You're brought you by the International Brotherhood of
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  Speaker 2: and with a career. We were talking about this in
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  Speaker 2: regards to the Broncos. It is so hard to forecasts.
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  Speaker 2: And I know that we don't have an opponent for
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  Speaker 2: them yet, but what does their postseason look like? And
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  Speaker 2: to me, it's always been a question of postseason starts
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  Speaker 2: and then people trust the quarterbacks. They trust Mahomes and
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  Speaker 2: Brady and Manning and Breeze. But this year there's not
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  Speaker 2: really any of those guys. You got Josh Allen, you
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  Speaker 2: got Matthew Stafford. But do you almost trust the defenses
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  Speaker 2: more so? If I ask you this, the top four
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  Speaker 2: defenses by points allowed per game in the NFL this
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  Speaker 2: year are the Seahawks, Texans, Broncos, and Patriots.
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  Speaker 1: I give you those four teams of the field, who
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  Speaker 1: do you take?
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  Speaker 3: I would always take defense, you know how I roll? Yep?
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  Speaker 4: Because I think even as you say people trust the quarterbacks,
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  Speaker 4: look at all those teams those great quarterbacks had, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the two Super Bowls Peyton Manning one won. It rained
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  Speaker 4: so hard in Miami they couldn't throw the ball, so
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  Speaker 4: the Colts rushed for two hundred yards and in twenty fifteen,
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  Speaker 4: you know, he was coming back.
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  Speaker 3: From so many injuries.
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  Speaker 4: They had to win that with defense and just grinding
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  Speaker 4: out at a Super Bowl win.
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  Speaker 2: In thirteen, they had the amazing offense, but the seasons.
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  Speaker 4: The greatest offense that ever took the field, you know, statistically,
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  Speaker 4: So I always think the best quarterbacks with the best
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  Speaker 4: defensive postseason. You don't even have to have been a
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  Speaker 4: great defense in the year, because I just think the
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  Speaker 4: games turn into a different flavor than the regular season
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  Speaker 4: has been. The stuff you were allowed to get on
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  Speaker 4: offense in a regular season just isn't there anymore. People
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  Speaker 4: don't give you, you know, they're not playing past the
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  Speaker 4: sticks on third and eight.
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  Speaker 3: They just don't. They don't give you anything.
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  Speaker 4: And frankly, who's left in the most postseason fields the
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  Speaker 4: best defenses every year? It's the dirty little secret because
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  Speaker 4: fantasy football wants to tell us that defensive football is ugly,
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  Speaker 4: it's boring, it's blah, and so we don't discuss it
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  Speaker 4: a lot.
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  Speaker 3: You know, during the regular season.
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  Speaker 4: This year's a little different because the top three four
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  Speaker 4: defenses haven't just been good, they've been historically good. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that you're right. I think that will be
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  Speaker 4: the tenor of this postseason. I think all of those
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  Speaker 4: teams with those defenses are tough outs automatically, and if
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  Speaker 4: you get them out of the playoff field, then suddenly, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: your chances are winning are great.
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  Speaker 2: Let's leave Pittsburgh out of this because I think it's
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  Speaker 2: very unlikely that that's the matchup next week, depending on
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  Speaker 2: you know, I assume one of these wild card teams
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  Speaker 2: are going to win. So out of the next three, Houston, LA,
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  Speaker 2: and Buffalo, which would you say is the best matchup
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  Speaker 2: for the Broncos?
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  Speaker 1: Which is the worst? Stylistically?
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  Speaker 3: I think Houston. We've already seen that game.
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  Speaker 4: That was a tough matchup and Stroud didn't even you know,
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  Speaker 4: they knocked Stroud out before halftime, so you know they
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  Speaker 4: had the backup quarterback in.
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  Speaker 1: That is as best or worse you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: I think that's the toughest matchup for the Broncos. Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Really, So who's the best one?
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  Speaker 2: Do you know?
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  Speaker 5: Who?
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  Speaker 3: Do you know?
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  Speaker 1: I'm tea.
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  Speaker 4: I think that I think the best one is that
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  Speaker 4: the team they know best, which would be the Chargers.
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  Speaker 1: See I feel that way too.
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  Speaker 5: Brettz A Freddy Count of the Chargers and so Stanford court,
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  Speaker 5: Sandford court, Sandford is like, I do not want to
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  Speaker 5: face that team, and I don't know why.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the Chargers are more rugged, more tough,
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  Speaker 4: uh than the Texans. I mean, you don't want to
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  Speaker 4: face the Chargers because justin her her on any day,
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  Speaker 4: it can throw for four hundred on you. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and he's already proven.
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  Speaker 3: You know. It's funny to me.
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  Speaker 4: When he came into the draft, people were like, I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if he loves the game and can he
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  Speaker 4: play with toughness and all that. That guy's been the
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  Speaker 4: toughest quarterback in the league all season. Nobody's been hit more,
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  Speaker 4: nobody's been sacked more, nobody's been hurried more. And the
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  Speaker 4: dudes play with a broken hand. So yeah, that is
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  Speaker 4: that a dude you want to see in the postseason?
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  Speaker 4: Probably not, But I'm just talking schematically and roster wise.
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  Speaker 4: You know, the Chargers are missing both of their starting tackles.
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  Speaker 4: Their offensive line has been jumbled all season. I think
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  Speaker 4: they have a hard time containing the Broncos in Denver
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  Speaker 4: with the noise at home, I think they have a
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  Speaker 4: hard time containing the Broncos defense now is it gonna be.
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  Speaker 3: A pretty game.
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  Speaker 4: No, I don't think Jacksonville would be a pretty game.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think the Texans would be a pretty game.
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  Speaker 4: And I don't think the Chargers are going to be
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  Speaker 4: a pretty game. So if folks are going to empower,
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  Speaker 4: think that we're gonna see some high fly and confetti
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  Speaker 4: cannon football, I'm not sure you're going to get that.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, well, this is where I'm going, and this is
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  Speaker 5: where I can tell you're not going, and you can
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  Speaker 5: tell me that I'm an idiot, and I'll take full responsibility.
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  Speaker 5: I think the team that can come in here and
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  Speaker 5: put up forty on you and then you can't match
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  Speaker 5: is Buffalo. That's my biggest fear. And I look at
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  Speaker 5: again just because I think they have an ability with
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  Speaker 5: that quarterback Jeff to explode. And you may listen, you're right,
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  Speaker 5: the Broncos will scheme the hell out of them, you know,
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  Speaker 5: with the defense, and that'll be really good. But man,
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  Speaker 5: they've put up thirty nine, thirty five, thirty five, thirty one,
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  Speaker 5: forty one, forty four to four, and I'm like, good golly.
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  Speaker 5: You know Josh Allen to me in the postseason, and
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  Speaker 5: I know he's not one at all. I just feel like,
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  Speaker 5: of all the potential, they could get to a number
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  Speaker 5: that you can't get to offensively and you can lose.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that's true, but their defense is so bad.
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  Speaker 4: I have a hard time believe in that defense survives
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  Speaker 4: this postseason, whether it's the Broncos that beat him or
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  Speaker 4: somebody else. But I don't think you can go to
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  Speaker 4: Indo a postseason with a defense playing like that. They've
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  Speaker 4: put up those point totals because.
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  Speaker 3: They've had to. That's not how they want to play.
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  Speaker 4: You know, they've had the number one rushing team in
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  Speaker 4: the league as well for most of the season.
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  Speaker 3: So I think they're a flawed roster.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean a quarterback and you know, anybody
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  Speaker 4: that's won the MVP Award, you know that's always going
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  Speaker 4: to be an issue if you're defensively. I just I'm
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  Speaker 4: talking schematic matchups among the teams, and I have not
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  Speaker 4: seen Buffalo play the rugged football defensively because of their injuries.
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  Speaker 3: Frankly that some of these other teams.
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  Speaker 2: Have two questions thirty seconds a piece here because we're
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  Speaker 2: up against it.
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  Speaker 1: Number one, I know you haven't done you.
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  Speaker 3: You can't put a time limit on.
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  Speaker 1: Me seconds just with the college football Playoff.
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  Speaker 2: I know you haven't done your full scouting report yet
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  Speaker 2: on things, but tell me, like is for Anando Mendoza,
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  Speaker 2: like a when we think number one overall quarterback pick?
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  Speaker 1: Is he that?
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  Speaker 4: I think he certainly could be. I mean, I will
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  Speaker 4: tell you. You know you didn't ask me in September,
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  Speaker 4: so there's no way to prove it. But I was
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  Speaker 4: pretty fired up about Mendoza back in the summer. Even
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  Speaker 4: He's just got a lot of the stuff you want
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  Speaker 4: in an NFL quarterback and he's only enhancing his status
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  Speaker 4: on a week quarterback board yeah this year. So those
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  Speaker 4: guys are always going to rise to the top. And
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  Speaker 4: when he is interviewed by teams and put on a whiteboard,
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  Speaker 4: he will blow everybody away. And that's a big deal.
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  Speaker 4: And he's just got the mental capability to lift the team.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think people.
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  Speaker 4: Understand how bad Indiana was for decades. When I covered
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  Speaker 4: the Big Ten in the eighties, they were other coaches
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  Speaker 4: simply called them but the bye week back then, So
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  Speaker 4: I don't think people understand how far down they were.
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  Speaker 4: This is the greatest resurrection in college football history.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then and then finally, just because I'm obsessed
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  Speaker 2: with this kid. I've been watching him since like midway
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  Speaker 2: through the year. Trinidad Chambliss is just a joy to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Is he an NFL big time type of quarterback because
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  Speaker 2: he can do a lot of things?
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  Speaker 1: Or is this a fun college quarterback?
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  Speaker 4: Probably a little of both. I think in the right
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  Speaker 4: scheme he could find an NFL home. But people are
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  Speaker 4: gonna guys his size have not always fared well in
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  Speaker 4: the NFL, and that's always Look, you know, there's no
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  Speaker 4: cut and dry rule for everything, and there's always outliers
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  Speaker 4: and all of that. But the injury factor would concern
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  Speaker 4: people with him and the fact that six six defensive
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  Speaker 4: tackles are the norm and.
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  Speaker 3: Not you know, unique.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you don't get that every week, even in
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  Speaker 4: the SEC. So, uh, that's the issue, finding throwing lanes
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  Speaker 4: and staying healthy in all those things. But playing football
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  Speaker 4: part of it. Oh hell yeah, he's fun to watch.
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  Speaker 1: Is Indiana your winner?
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  Speaker 4: They're the best team top to bottom. They're the defense.
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  Speaker 4: Defense gets no love, but the defense, that's the best
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  Speaker 4: defense in the field, and it is easily the best
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  Speaker 4: defensive scheme in the field. They do stuff that NFL
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  Speaker 4: teams don't always try because it's hard to play.
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  Speaker 5: If I'll just say this, I believed in them in
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  Speaker 5: Signetti's a piece of work. But when they went to
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  Speaker 5: Austin and they beat the Ducks the way they did,
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  Speaker 5: I'm like, that's that's that's a damn fine football team.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm right there with you.
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  Speaker 2: By the way, just for the record, I want to
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  Speaker 2: be on record right now. I would be happy in
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  Speaker 2: April if the Broncos took anybody who puts their hand
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  Speaker 2: in the dirt on Miami's offensive or defensive line, any
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  Speaker 2: one of them.
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  Speaker 5: All.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, well a good call. You're a good person.
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  Speaker 1: Jeff Flagwell joins us every week. Always appreciate it, lady.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. Thanks. What do you know?
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  Speaker 1: See you, buddy?
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  Speaker 2: You know what I love is you have somebody on
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: for expertise and then you go, what do you know
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: about it?
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: I was just Joshu with him, but he's right. I
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: just I don't know. I don't want I don't want
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: to speak it into existence. I talk about the Bills
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: offense anymore.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something right now, I will I
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: will change my mind on things I respect. Jeff Lagwell's
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: football opinion so much that if he says something, I'm like, okay, fine,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: then I'll just.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Know what that was, right.
• 17:40
  Speaker 5: I just you change your You can be hard pressed
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: and say now I'm gonna stick to my guts. You're
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: like no kempt changing