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Jumping into Love · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast with
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  Speaker 1: i R Radio. It's a beautiful time of the year.
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  Speaker 1: The snow is falling in Denver, Colorado. I think we
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  Speaker 1: have twelve inches as of last night. It's a big day.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm sitting talking to Ashley I Connettie, my favorite
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  Speaker 1: co host, today about all the craziness that's happened in
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation over last week. And actually, I feel like
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  Speaker 1: we've been in the headlines a lot. Yeah, we have,
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  Speaker 1: especially over the past couple of days, and the response
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  Speaker 1: has been extremely positive. I know, and I think we
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  Speaker 1: said it even at the beginning of our interview with
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  Speaker 1: Sean Booth And if you all haven't listened. Uh, make
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  Speaker 1: sure you go to the I Heart Radio app uh
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  Speaker 1: and download our in depth episode with Sean Booth talking
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  Speaker 1: everything break up and kind of what life looks like
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  Speaker 1: for him now. But actually, I think you did a
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  Speaker 1: really great job at the beginning of of that podcast.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't even know if you meant to, but
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  Speaker 1: you said this, You said, I feel really awkward. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's set the tone to say this
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  Speaker 1: doesn't feel right, like I don't want to talk to
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  Speaker 1: anybody about their breakup. But it felt like something that
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  Speaker 1: needed to happen for for not only us, I mean
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  Speaker 1: as a podcast, but for Sean and and hopefully you know,
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin's obviously moving on as well. I think what made
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  Speaker 1: it feel awkward was that it's hard to get a
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  Speaker 1: breakup interview without both people present because you're only going
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  Speaker 1: to get one side of it there. So I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to do my best to present whatever I knew from
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  Speaker 1: Kalin's side. It's a good point, yeah, and the response
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  Speaker 1: has been really positive. I mean, I felt like we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get some a lot of like backlash, just no
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  Speaker 1: matter what we're setting ourselves up to get backlash when
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  Speaker 1: you do like you said a break up podcast, We're
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  Speaker 1: you're only getting one side, but the vulnerability that was
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  Speaker 1: shared during that, the details, um, the real emotion that
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  Speaker 1: we I mean, we had to stop the podcast I
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  Speaker 1: don't know four times because of the emotion that was involved.
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  Speaker 1: I think really helped the listener understand that nobody is
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  Speaker 1: trying to hurt anybody in this situation. Right. So, UM,
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to Sean, we have a couple of
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  Speaker 1: emails UH, and the voice uh from above is gonna
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  Speaker 1: read them to us. Mark, will you read a couple
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  Speaker 1: of these Shawn emails for us? I'd be happy to
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  Speaker 1: thank you. This one's from an anonymous emailer. I listened
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  Speaker 1: to your podcast a lot, but this one was by
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  Speaker 1: far the best. Sean's openness and emotion really moved me.
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  Speaker 1: I went through a break up a few years ago
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  Speaker 1: with my high school sweetheart. I've never felt a pain
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  Speaker 1: like that breakup in my life. But my message to
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  Speaker 1: Sean would be that sometimes it's harder to be the
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  Speaker 1: one that ends things because then you have to live
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  Speaker 1: with the choice you made and constantly debate if you
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  Speaker 1: made the right decision. Although the pain can be unbearable,
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  Speaker 1: it makes you stronger and eventually you do realize everything
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  Speaker 1: worked out for the best. Actually, if you could have
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  Speaker 1: a breakup, hm um. You know you're in the public eye,
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  Speaker 1: You're you're in a committed, safe, really loving relationship right
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  Speaker 1: now forever. But if you're in a if you're in
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  Speaker 1: that same relationship and something happens, are you upset with
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  Speaker 1: the partner for doing the podcast? And the question then
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  Speaker 1: in return, in the same breath would be would you
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  Speaker 1: do one yourself? I think in this case, Caitlin has
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  Speaker 1: her platform as her podcast, and then Sean doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: his own platform, so it was fine for him to
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  Speaker 1: come on this podcast because he needs to air his
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  Speaker 1: beep out and then she has had the ability to
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  Speaker 1: do so for the past cual months. Fair enough, Mark, Alright,
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  Speaker 1: this one says, Hi, guys, I appreciate what you were
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  Speaker 1: doing with the in depth episode with Sean Booth. I
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  Speaker 1: know you're just doing your jobs and we're as respectful
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  Speaker 1: to both sides as possible. But I have to say
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  Speaker 1: I think it was extremely inappropriate and disrespectful of Sean
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  Speaker 1: throughout the timeline of Caitlin and Jason's relationship that if
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  Speaker 1: not his narrative to tell they obviously chose to go
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  Speaker 1: public the way they did for a reason, and he
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  Speaker 1: took that right away from them, which is not his place. Ben,
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  Speaker 1: how do you feel about that? It's interesting? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's funny. I'm reading this and like,
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  Speaker 1: I think the most confusing part to break ups and
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  Speaker 1: and how we all move on no matter where you're
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  Speaker 1: at in life is whose place is what? I honestly like,
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  Speaker 1: how do we determine whose place is what? I mean,
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  Speaker 1: if you've been hurt and I don't know the Sean
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  Speaker 1: Caitlin Jason timeline, but if you've been hurt and you're
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  Speaker 1: telling your friends and family about the break up, and
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  Speaker 1: you have a suspicion that something weird was happening, would
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  Speaker 1: it not be your narrative to tell if your pain
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  Speaker 1: is deep, if your heart is broken, would it not
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  Speaker 1: be your narrative? I agree, it's his narrative to be
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  Speaker 1: able to share his pain and experience, just like it's hers.
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  Speaker 1: What's so weird is that it's public, because you know,
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  Speaker 1: in normal relationships, you just tell your friends, then your
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  Speaker 1: friends know. But I guess people are thinking like it's
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  Speaker 1: airing somebody's dirty laundry. To like the mass public. That is,
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  Speaker 1: like loves a bad taste in their mouth, but it's
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  Speaker 1: not necessarily dirty. No, it's exactly. That's a good point,
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  Speaker 1: as like, what if this isn't dirty, What if he's
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  Speaker 1: explaining a timeline that is safe. He's just saying, this
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  Speaker 1: is how it played out. Everything was right, everything was good.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think he was insinuating anything. He was just saying, hey, if, if,
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  Speaker 1: if anything else, the speed at which she's moved on
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  Speaker 1: has hurt me. Not that it's wrong, not that it's bad,
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  Speaker 1: not that she can't do it. It just pains me.
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  Speaker 1: And I get that. I felt that way. I can
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  Speaker 1: relate with him on that. Yeah, Mark, do we have
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  Speaker 1: another one? Well? The rest of them go into the
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  Speaker 1: Klin situation, although this one does say, um, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for going so much deeper. I am in awe that
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  Speaker 1: Sean could be so raw and vulnerable. You both asked
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  Speaker 1: the right question that a supporting and loving way. These
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  Speaker 1: are real people dealing with real love and heartache. And
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  Speaker 1: she goes on to say thank you for taking such
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  Speaker 1: Karen discussing Kaylin's sexual assault. I think this revelation is
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  Speaker 1: going to open up a lot of discussions about abuse,
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  Speaker 1: and I just know the two of you will guide
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  Speaker 1: your part of the discussion in a safe and responsible way.
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  Speaker 1: That's perfect. That's a that's a good transition there. I
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  Speaker 1: want to close up to Sean Booth Caitlin Bristow conversation
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  Speaker 1: by just saying that I'm Ashley. I'm gonna speak for you,
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  Speaker 1: ash Is that cool? It depends what you say. UM,
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  Speaker 1: we love them both dearly and uh, Caitlin and Sean
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  Speaker 1: I view as friends of mine. Uh and and I'll
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  Speaker 1: actually agree or disagree on that. I thought walking out
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  Speaker 1: of that that I from trying to be from a
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  Speaker 1: balanced perspective. Sean did a really good job at explaining
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  Speaker 1: himself that talking through the situation. Uh. And I know
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  Speaker 1: that when he left that day he still had a
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  Speaker 1: lot of respect, care and love for Caitlin. Um, and
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  Speaker 1: he was very cautious about how she was going to
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  Speaker 1: get portrayed in this. So anyways, I just want to
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  Speaker 1: say thank you Sean for coming on the podcast again.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't listened, downloaded on I heart app it's
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  Speaker 1: the in depth episode with Sean Booth. Actually, as of
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  Speaker 1: last night one day, I think it was a top
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  Speaker 1: five podcast of the week, which better watch out Joe
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  Speaker 1: ro again and actually can stop and if I'm just
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  Speaker 1: gonna to my own horn like you just said, I
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  Speaker 1: think we did do a pretty good job doing a
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  Speaker 1: non biased interview and asking all the questions that a
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  Speaker 1: lot of fans have been asking since they announced their breakup.
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  Speaker 1: Bachelor episode recap later in the podcast. But there's a
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  Speaker 1: couple of things that seem to be very clearly priorities
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  Speaker 1: that we need to talk about, and that's the Kalin situation.
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  Speaker 1: So Ashley not I want to take that conversation and
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  Speaker 1: that experience with Caitlin or Kalin and and talk about
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  Speaker 1: it on a separate segment because it's it holds that
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  Speaker 1: much power and weight. We don't want to just throw
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  Speaker 1: into the batterycap. It's it's way too important and way
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  Speaker 1: too big of a topic to do that. On the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of minutes of Shawn's episode, we did bring
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  Speaker 1: it up and uh and talk about it. But here's
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  Speaker 1: we did get an advanced clip and we played that
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  Speaker 1: clip during the podcast. So, so if you haven't seen
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  Speaker 1: tonight's episode, you go back and listen to the podcast
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  Speaker 1: with Sean and here the conversation. Ashley, let's kind of
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  Speaker 1: just go back to what we talked about before. What
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  Speaker 1: what is your initial reaction as you see Colton and
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  Speaker 1: Kalin sit down and that conversation starts. Well, it's probably
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  Speaker 1: the most vulnerable conversation we may have ever seen on
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  Speaker 1: The Bachelor. I think normally you kind to watch it
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  Speaker 1: and you're like, yeah, these two people really know that
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  Speaker 1: there are cameras around them and that they're going to
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  Speaker 1: this conversation is gonna be on TV. There's something about
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  Speaker 1: this conversation that just seemed extremely intimate, like they were
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  Speaker 1: not thinking about anyone besides the two of them. I
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  Speaker 1: think it was so brave of her to tell her story.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't never from all the seasons that I've watched,
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  Speaker 1: seen a girl come out about a sexual assault that
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  Speaker 1: she experienced, and one in six American women um have
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  Speaker 1: either been in a situation where a rape was attempted
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  Speaker 1: or they were actually raped. And so statistically speaking, you
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  Speaker 1: would say that there's been plenty of Bachelor contestants who
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  Speaker 1: have gone through this before, but Kaylin is the first
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  Speaker 1: one to come forward and tell the Bachelor her story
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  Speaker 1: about this, and in this me too movement, I think
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  Speaker 1: it was very just brave and powerful of her to
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  Speaker 1: be that open to talk about that on this Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you know, sexual assault has obviously been it will be
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  Speaker 1: a defining topic, um kind of in our generation, and
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  Speaker 1: it's one that had to happen right so earlier a
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  Speaker 1: couple episodes ago, we had actually Spivey on who discussed
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  Speaker 1: this topic with us. See, statistically speaking, she was one
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  Speaker 1: of those girls, but she never brought it up on
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  Speaker 1: the show. Never did and so it seems like a
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  Speaker 1: topic that more and more people are open to discuss.
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  Speaker 1: Here's here's a little top a little one for you.
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  Speaker 1: What we saw with Klin was what the me too
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  Speaker 1: movement was started to be a very poignant, powerful, uh
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  Speaker 1: scenario where we say no, we're gonna put our foot down,
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  Speaker 1: our stake in the ground, and say this is no longer, okay,
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  Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about it. We're not going to
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  Speaker 1: make it taboo anymore to discuss because it's happened to
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  Speaker 1: so many women. And the beauty of what Kalin did is,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, like it or not, she has a
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  Speaker 1: platform now right, she's on the show, and she took
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  Speaker 1: this opportunity just like it sounds like from from our
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  Speaker 1: research she's done, uh, and in the pageant world as well,
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  Speaker 1: And she said, I'm gonna take this platform, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna make it something a lot bigger than myself, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be the voice for women out there. I'm
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  Speaker 1: gonna lay everything down for the sake of a topic
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  Speaker 1: that needs to be discussed. I want to move in then,
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  Speaker 1: because Kalin did obviously a great job of being vulnerable. Um,
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  Speaker 1: she's relatable to many. But I want to walk into
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  Speaker 1: a topic actually that I wonder if you felt it. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The idea of Shane Calin discusses with Colton that after
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing goes down, something very traumatic, something that
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  Speaker 1: was beyond her control, that she was not at fault
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  Speaker 1: for whatsoever, not not not one ounce at fault for
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  Speaker 1: she still carried a level of shane and shame is
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  Speaker 1: a very very difficult emotion to kind of overcome, and
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  Speaker 1: it's it's fairly detrimental um to our emotional well being.
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  Speaker 1: So actually, I don't if you felt shame, but what
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  Speaker 1: was your idea or thoughts. As Caitlin mentioned her thoughts
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  Speaker 1: on shame, I just thought I was really unfortunate that
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  Speaker 1: that feeling is attached that experience, since it obviously shouldn't be.
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  Speaker 1: We got hundreds of emails from from women sharing their stories,
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  Speaker 1: and almost in every single one they felt in some
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  Speaker 1: way shameful and responsible. It's so heartbreaking, but it's somehow,
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  Speaker 1: you know. We got an email from a woman who
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  Speaker 1: felt like her gut was telling her something wasn't right
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  Speaker 1: and she didn't leave, and then now she blames herself,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like she, I don't know how you can
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  Speaker 1: change that. You know, other we can keep saying it's
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  Speaker 1: not your fault, you did nothing wrong, but for people
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  Speaker 1: to internalize it, it's so challenging. Yeah, Amy, you bring
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  Speaker 1: up a good bot. I'm just sitting here thinking on
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: this for a second. If that many women are feeling
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: a common emotion, there's there's obviously some science or that
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: It's like something that happens to the human composition, the
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: chemicals in the brain and the body that lead to
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: this feeling. We just have to eliminate the stigma. So
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: people feel so open talking about it, whether that's with
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: their family, their friends, therapists. But but it's common, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: so when something's common in this world, it feels like, uh,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: you know, when you can relay on on a similar
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: emotion around anything, right, this is this is something that
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: that gets really tricky. But there feels like what Kalin's
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: done is taken this shame and like a lot of
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: people done amy. As you mentioned, we got hundreds of
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: emails from these women, right, and their stories are really powerful. Uh,
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: you know, it's sad. I can't make sense of why
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: they feel shame. I don't know that side of the situation.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I know it's not right. I know it's not fair
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: to them. I know that's not what we desire for them.
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: But as they read their email, as we read their emails,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: what we saw was these women now are speaking up.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: They're taking this shame and they're saying it doesn't feel good.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: At times. I think the word embarrassed at fault was
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: used in these emails. They said, I felt embarrassed, I
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: felt at fault. I felt like this was a problem
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: that I was was a part of. But they've said, no,
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go overcome those negative emotions and put again
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: put our stake in the ground and say we're bigger
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: and better than this and we will survive. That. To me,
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: is what this whole thing is about now, is saying, yes,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: you've been hurt. We know that. Maybe I will never
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: understand that, maybe I will never be able to fully
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: grasp how deeply you've been hurt. What I can do
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: is get behind you and say we can be a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: voice for the many and stand up against it. This
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: is this is not and I want to mention too,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: is I think our studies found that eight percent of
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: men have been a victim of sexual assault as well.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: Let's not just put you know, let's say this is
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: just something that we should just discuss and not make
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: tap do. And Kalen, congratulations on you and just thank
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: you for being a voice for so many. I want
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: to uh. I also want to to mention that the
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: organization that the Bachelor supporting um is rain dot org.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: You saw the clip come up during the show rain
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: dot org stands up against rape, abuse and incest. They
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: have a twenty four hour crisis number that's one six
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: five six hope six five six hope. If you have
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: been a victim, if you are a survivor, UM, please
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: reach out to RAIN or any other network UM and support.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: There's a lot of people out there, uh that want
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: to and do have your back. I have to say
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: that I learned for the first time that some hospitals,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: well that hospitals can legally turn you away for a
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: rape kit. That is unbelievable. Discussing what the heck did
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you do that beforehand? I did? Can I tell a
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: quick story? UM? So, when I was in college, there
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: was a young lady who is an incredible person, and
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: she was doing an article about me because my life
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: was was just weird and I guess it hasn't got
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: any less weird um, And we became very good friends.
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: She followed me around for six weeks of my senior
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: year of college writing this article about me. It was
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: something that we became very close around and and long
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: story short, she was always on time, always very punctual,
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: and really good at her job. And when the it
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: was her final thesis in college, and she she told
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: me she wanted to meet at a coffee shop to
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: discuss the final paper, and she never showed up to
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: the coffee shop. So I went home and I called
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: around and I was looking for I called her sorority,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: I called her friends. Finally got a phone call from
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: her mom, UH, saying that she had been put in
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: the hospital because the night before she was out celebrating
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the completion of her very last paper of college. She
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: was at a bowling alley and her drink was drugged.
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: She was thrown in the back of a car, um
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: she was sexually assaulted, left her dead in the middle
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: of a cornfield in Indiana, UH. And a police officer
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: just happened to be driving by and her lights shined
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: on this friend of mine and found her, took her
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: to the hospital. And because of how listen, this is
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: where it gets really crazy, because of how badly beaten
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: she was, she had broken ribs and and her spleen
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: was was destroyed. The hospital would not do a rape git,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: and they never did do a rape kit because it
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: took her so long to heal, and then they never
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: were able to prosecute anybody for the situation because it
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: was too far, she was too far removed to have
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: any viable evidence of what happened. They thought that she
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: was too like physically broken at the time she do
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: a kit. Yeah that sounds While you're talking about I'm
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: also reading an article because I'm very curious how or
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: why an emergency room would turn someone away up. I
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: guess if you don't have insurance, they can turn you away,
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: even if you're willing to to pay the bill. I'm
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: reading this article right now. I have I have maybe
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: a question I want to throw out there and to
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: kind of in this conversation because uh, you know, it
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: is one that I think we could all we all
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: feel a sense of heaviness from. We all want to
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: say thank you to Kalin for speaking up, um, for
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: all of our listeners out there, uh, and for anybody
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that is a survivor. How do we help you? Can
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: you write us at Ben and Ashley at I Heart
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: Meatia dot com. UM. I want to know. I don't
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: know if I have a clear answer of how I
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: can help you, and I want I think we all
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: here at the Almost Famous podcast want to be that support.
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: If we need to talk about it more, if we
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: need to have people on to discuss it. We're willing
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: to do that, but how can we help? So please
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: write us again at Ben and Ashley I hurt meata
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: dot com. We will read through your emails and uh,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: I think I just want to throw in the fact
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: that I cannot believe of this kind of evil exists,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: and that's so so much you will exist. That one
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: in six American women go through this, that's mind boggling
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: to me. I think the stat that I'm seeing is
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: that of assault or rape victims report it. And I
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: think that's why talking about it does do something, because
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: removing the stigma and the shame makes people feel like
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: they should and can report it. Um. You know, I'm
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: just reading this. I think if there's anything we can
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: do to figure out how to solve the issues with
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: performing the rape kids, I guess it says a lot
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: of hospitals, you know, are not some people aren't trained
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: to perform the rape kit accurately. There's insurance issues, all
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: kinds of state and federal laws that are murking unclear
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: even to legal experts. Just big complicated issue it is,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: and that's what we need help. I think an open
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: dialogue is the only way to to progress to a
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: place of some understanding. So good on Calin or Kalin
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: for keep calling or Caalin um Kalin for starting this
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: open dialogue, and just to by so we're accurate. Emergency
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: rooms should not and are not supposed to turn people
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: away regardless of their ability to pay. But that applies
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: to licensed hospitals with emergency department. The loophole is it
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: does not apply to license freestanding emergency medical care facilities.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: And it's difficult to interpret you know the meaning of
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: all this, um, but there are significant loopholes, and I
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: think that's what some of these women may be experiencing.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Um Mark. Do you have any emails about this? Well,
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: this is a very heavy one and actually there's something
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: that you want want to clarify, actually, so it's probably
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: worth reading your better Ashley. I really appreciate the honesty
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: and vulnerability when Calin said she felt safe with Colton.
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: That rang so close to home for me. When someone
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: is taking your security from you, a person who truly
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: makes you feel safe, loved, and accept it, it's a
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: rare thing that you hold on too. I was raped
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: when I was fifteen by my boyfriend. It took me
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: month to tell anyone because I was so ashamed and
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: thought it was my fault. I tortured myself for a
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: long time and it was incredibly self destructive. I finally
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: told someone after my second suicide attempt. Shame is a
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: powerful emotion that can completely consume you. I didn't want
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: to point out a comment that actually made. When she
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: interjected and said I would have no idea what it
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: feels like to be a victim, there was an undertone
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: of I'm not the kind of person who would be
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: in that situation because I was a virgin for so long.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: This is the kind of comment that kept me from
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: telling my story. It's these subtle comments from women who
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: otherwise are trying to build up other women that make
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: the shame feel all the more overwhelming. Thank you again
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: for these candid conversations. Absolutely not what I meant by
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: that was I only think I could begin to conceptualize
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: the pain that these victims go through, and I didn't
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: want to speak on behalf of them. I think the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: fair mhm, that's fair. UM, I'm so sorry that if
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: it that I came across in that tone. I I'm
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: so sorry if you thought that there's no easy way
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: to move on. I I have zero idea how to
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: move on. So uh ash, let's take a break for
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: a second. Um pause, good glass of water. Come back
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: and we'll recap everything that happened in the last episode
• 27:26
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• 31:00
  Speaker 1: the episode with Colton, we have a really special guest,
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  Speaker 1: one of my favorite contestants from this season of The Bachelor,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: who was let home way too early in my opinion,
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: we're gonna ask her why. Hey, Bree, Hi guys, how's
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: it going? Hey? Bree? So good? Um, we've had a
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: deep episode. We're trying to get you to lighten it
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: up for a little bit. Bree. Do you know that
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: Ben thinks that you're like maybe the prettiest girl in
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: the Colton season. I mean a lot of people have
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: said that I looked very similar to Lauren b So
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: it only makes sense the feeling. Breathe, that's really sweet
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the Lauren b Uh. You know what, Lauren is a
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: beautiful person, So that is a terrific comparison. You should
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: stand tall and proud of that. She's she's one of
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: a kind. Three years you were home way too early?
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Why what happened? I know? I know I was sad too,
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: and honestly a little shocked. I think that day. Um,
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: we didn't see too much of me on this season.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I think I didn't get as much air time as
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: as I hoped. Um, And I don't know if it
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: was just you know that I couldn't fully let go
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: on camera because I feel like so many people don't
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: really speak on that. But for me, that was like
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: something really hard. And I was pretty open with Colton,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: Like every time I had one on one time with him,
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: I would let him know like I'm trying, my heart
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: is to be open. This is just you know a
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: little different for me. So I don't know if it
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: was that worth. Um, maybe there just wasn't much of
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: a connection. Um, I don't know, but I was. I
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: was sad to go, Ben Brie, I have a question.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: So we we live in a world where a bachelor
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: world where we're told like I want you to open up.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: I want you to open up. But I think that
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: can be such an intimidating statement. How can we make
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: that seem a little bit lighter where it's like I
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: just want you to talk to me about fund stuff.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: Opening up sounds like really it sounds like with that
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: girl katelo and thought last week, like I have to
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: tell you a SOB story. It doesn't necessarily mean you
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: have to tell a SOB story. It means let's just
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: have an easy, breezy conversation. And you know, I think
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: that's funny because even going on the show, I remember
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: like talking with my mom and she was like, well, like,
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: what's your big story going to be? Like you haven't
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: gone through anything necessarily traumatizing, like you kind of have
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: to like capture them. So I felt like a little
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: bit of pressure to um, I don't know, like have
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: some sort of story going into that. But honestly, like
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I feel like I'm actually a very open person and
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: honest most of the time, so it's not hard for
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: me to open up. I think it's sometimes the opposite, Like,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: especially being on camera, it was hard for me to
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: just be like casual and like have like easy conversation
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: instead of being like, hey, tell me your biggest fear
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: or hey, like what's going on here? Like I'm all
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: about like those deeper conversations and it might be kind
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: of weird for other people. So I was like, I
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: have to like try and tone this back a little.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: It could truly be something as easy as what did
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: you study in school? And that opens up a big
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: can of worms. Sure, sure, yeah that that could be
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: like a whole conversation from there on. But I feel
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: like I'm always most interested in and like especially because
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: this is such like an escalated um process, like trying
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: to get to know someone quickly, like I guess I'd
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: rather know earlier on, like some of those deeper things
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: to get a better skill for who they are instead
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: of but what what school did you go to? Which
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I would ask on a normal date. But this isn't
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: a normal way of dating. We didn't get to see it, um,
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: And it's hard for always to say. This is one
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: of my favorite questions. Ask any contestant who was um
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: let home early? As watching The Bachelor Shore, it feels
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: like these women are really into Colden. Was that how
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: it felt in the house or was people on edge?
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Were they questioning him? Were you questioning him? Or what?
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Was everybody just sold out that this guy he is
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: my husband? Um? I mean, because I left so early,
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: I feel like there may have been like a couple
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: of girls who were starting to build connections, but it
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: was so early on, like a lot of girls were
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: just wanting to get to know him still, So it
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: wasn't like a huge conversation while I was there. Um,
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: you know, everyone just wanted to get more time with
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: him mostly, But I think there was definitely a couple
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: of girls they noticed from the beginning up that like
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: connected with him more. Bree. I know that in this
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: episode they kind of wrapped up the feud between Hannah
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: and Kayla in a very weird way, and I sort
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: of have a theory on that and Ben and I
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: haven't discussed yet, but do you know what happened in
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: their past that makes them so hostile to each other.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: I've been asked about this a lot lately, and honestly,
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: in the house, I wasn't really much about the drama,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Like I really tried to stay away from all about
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: so I didn't hear too much. Um I don't know
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: like how it's all going to wrap up. And I
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: do hope for both their sake, like they were both
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: really sweet girls. I hope that it's not something that
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: like continues throughout the entire season of both of them
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: being there. But um, I mean I really don't I
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: don't know all the like the whole backstory really anything
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: other than what was shown in last week's episode. I
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: guess what you guys that you know? I think it's
• 36:28
  Speaker 1: a massive topic and and actually I want to spend
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: some time later on digging in Brie. I know that
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you only have a few minutes with us, and and
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: before you go, I gotta ask you. I have a
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: feeling that if you, unless you don't want it to be,
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: this will not be our last time seeing you in
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Bachelor Nation on a Bachelor show. Where do you hope
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: this goes for you? What? What? What do you hope
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: is next? Are you? Are you hoping for paradise? Will
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you agree to paradise? Or are you done? This is?
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: This was not a good experience. No, No, I think
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: this was an amazing experience. And I've only noticed I've
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: grown and pushed myself so much more like since the show,
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: since the experience and now that it's all airing, and
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: I love that, Like anything in life that will push
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: me more to you know, find out more about myself
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: or whatever that is, I'm totally down for UM. I'm
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: hoping this isn't the end because I've had a great time,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: so very open to um, paradise and really anything that
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: will come from it. Demi is the quote villain in
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the house. I don't think she's like as villainous as
• 37:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of past villains. I think she's more of
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: a pest like I talked about last week. Um. But
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: but in this episode, Demi and Courtney go at it.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: Demi calls Courtney the cancer of the house. How did
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: you view Demi and did you actually think that Courtney
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: was more of a complainer than it has been showed
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: in previous episodes. Um, I think that it is funny
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: that Jemmy's coming off with such a villain. I think
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: that I think she likes the attention. I think that
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: it's fun for her. But um, you know, I wouldn't
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: say she's like a complete villain. And I noticed actually
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: I think it was the night that I went home,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: but they had a little bit of something brewing. So
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what happens on tonight's episodes. Um. So,
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not really sure we'll see Brie before we send
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: you off here, not to put you on the spot,
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: but definitely to put you on the spot. You're gonna
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: go on Paradise hopefully. I hope you go on Paradise. Bree,
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: I think you've got a lot of potential. Um, I
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think. I think colten Sney home
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: way too early. So all the guys up to date
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: that will potentially be in Paradise from this franchise, who
• 38:54
  Speaker 1: do you have your eye on? Well, you know, if
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: you're single, Ben, Uh, it would be a difference story.
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: But I I've been asked this a couple of times,
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: and I kind of have my eye own Dean right now. Um,
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: I know that there's I now he said a couple
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: of things, but um, I mean I hope that that
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: wouldn't hold him back from Paradise. And I haven't spoken
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: to Gean at all, but I think that I would
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: be interested in getting to know him. You guys live
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: in the same area, so it could be feasible. Yeah,
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: let's connect him. Sure, I mean unless you wanted to
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: unfold in Paradise. And I really don't think Dean's doing
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: the show again, so I don't think that's an option
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: for you. But we can totally set you up. How
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: about she comes on help I second dating? Oh? Yes, please?
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: All right, Bread, you're invited in studio for that, all right?
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: February five, breathe nothing like there's honestly nothing like the show, Brie.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: I I thank you for playing long here. There's nothing
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: like The Bachelor to just make you super forward, like
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: I feel weirdness about like telling somebody now, hey, I
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: think you're Q. I have a crush, like I'm into this.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: So brethe good Um, Hey, we're gonna miss you. I'll
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: miss you from here on out. So I'm sorry, but
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: I hope. I think Paradise is the next step for you.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: Brethe Colton season The Bachelor, actually, any questions in it, No,
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: that's it. I just wanted to say that. I also
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: have never I never told anyone I like you until
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: The Bachelor about this whole it's this whole thing. You know.
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: It really pushes you to be more open, and I
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: admire that about other people. Yeah, and it makes openness
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: not seem creepy or desperate or eager. No. Yeah, it's
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: just the way of doing it naturally, I think, you know. Yeah,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: but hopefully you guys will be seeing more of me.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: I'm hopeful of that. Okay, So to Brie, thanks a lot,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: thanks for having me by. Guys. It should be mentioned
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: that we record this on Monday, afternoons because Ben and
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: I get a advanced copy of the episodes. Sometimes those
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: copies though sometimes those copies. It's so that you guys
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: have this podcast to listen to right after the show
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: on Monday nights or on Tuesday morning on your drive
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: to work. We sometimes in that screener don't get the
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: Rose ceremony, which is why last week there were some
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: references as to brethe staying on the show. We didn't
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: know she got limited at the Row ceremony. I had
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: zero expectation that you would get Yeah, I didn't either,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and then we That's also why Breed just then was
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: referring to the episode that she had to watch tonight.
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: She means episode for that's just how it goes around here.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: We're I'm sad about that one. But anyways, Hey, Bree,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: thanks for coming on the episode. We hope to be
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: seeing a lot more of you before we get into
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: breaking down the episode which is up next. And I
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: have a lot to say about this episode, and I
• 41:57
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  Speaker 1: I just saw my name pop up on We'll use this.
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  Speaker 1: I just saw my name pop up on my Google
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: alerts and it says Breeze mentioned an article with Brie
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: has mentioned your name, and it's an article with Lauren Ziema.
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: Um about how Burrie, our last guest, mentioned that, Yeah,
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: she was had a crush on on Dina and I.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: So that's really sweet Brie, thank you again for that. Um,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: But I thought it was weird that she's got the
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  Speaker 1: fun that popped up on my computer. Hey um. Moving on, Actually,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: this episode with Colton Uh was one that I was
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: very envious of at times and also really happy that
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: I'm not the Bachelor ever again at other times. And
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: let me tell you why. First off, Singapore, I love
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: the idea of Singapore. I would love to go to Singapore.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: I'm very envious of that. But jumping right into the
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: first date, I'm really glad I'm not the Bachelor because
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: there is no way in hell you're getting me two
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: bungee jump off that thing. I really felt that moment,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: like I could feel them with that anxiety and their soul,
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: like I'm actually gonna step off this thing and just
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: free fall. Did you do anything like that on your season. No, No,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: they must know that I would have I would have
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: been like, I'm out, Like love ain't worth this fund.
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: Jared Bungee jumped with Claire on Paradise. Really yeah, but
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: it was a lot less of a fall, and it
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: was over water, which to me like it was over
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: ocean water, which feels a lot safer for me. It's
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: I I texted Colton last night, um, and I was like, dude,
• 46:15
  Speaker 1: I'm really glad that you're the Bachelor, Like you're doing
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: a great job for so many reasons, but also because
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: that right there is something they would have never been
• 46:23
  Speaker 1: able to get me to do. Really, it didn't seem
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: like he was too eager. I don't think he was either,
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: but he held his own so anyways, that was my
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: takeaway from the first date. I mean, Tastia is great,
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: She's very beautiful. I'm glad that this, uh, this worked
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: out for them. But I had anxiety for fifteen minutes
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: following this date, just trying to process the fact that
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: they were jumping from their legs, you know, hundreds and
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: hundreds and hundreds of feet, with the idea that this
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: was helping them find love. Silly. It's really just that
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: they can use all the cliches like I really feel
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: like I'm falling in love. That's good point, jumping and
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: calling in the process. I'm surprised they could do that.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: I thought that, uh just the network. Television has got
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: a lot more strict on what they can and cannot
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: do on these shows for like legal purposes. So I'm
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: surprised that that can still exist. But it must be safe.
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess so probably be as dangerous as
• 47:21
  Speaker 1: getting into a car. Yeah, well yeah, probably at Let's
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I would imagine. I hope so. Um but uh yeah,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: Tasha and Colton they have a connection. I think he's
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: into her. As you mentioned last week, Actuley, you can
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: really tell who Colton's into and who he's not. If
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: there's one thing he's doing, I don't know if it's
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: a bad or good thing. It's just you can really
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: read who he's into. I agree, Well, I think it's
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: fun for the audience. Yeah, he's reguing, you know what,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: items he's really into her. Then let's see what else
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: do we have in this episode. The group date, it
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: was like the biggest group date ever, and of course
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: Hannah was sad because that meant that Calin was going
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: to go on the one on one. This is where
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: a lot of the drama between Courtney and Demi happened.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: I have to say that while Demi is annoying and
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: presents herself very young, I thought Courtney was really condescending
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: in this episode. The scene in the episode and she
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: Courtney like, she how do I wear this? There is
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: a method to getting time with the Bachelor during group dates,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: and if you want time and you fight for time,
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: you get time. The whole playing hard to get thing
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: does not work when it comes to the Bachelor. We
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: saw this with Chris Radon during Becca's season, who wanted
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: to be pursued by Becca. No, the cast has to
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: pursue the lead in this case. Correct, there's twenty plus
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: people like you don't have to time to play hard
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: to get. And honestly, just to be clear, I have
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: I bet Colton had no clue that he even had
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: not talked to Courtney. Yeah, you're so in it. You're
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: tired of talking to people. There's so much going on,
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: there's emotions involved, there's deep conversations involved. You're you're just tired.
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: In general, You're not. It's very rare. I think at
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: the end of the night. Most of the time, you
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: know the bachelor, bachelor will sit back and be like, Okay,
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: who did I talk tonight? Who did not talk to tonight?
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Was there any weird conversations I have? And that's when
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: you start to analyze it, but by then it's too late.
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I was just kind of turned off by
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: Courtney's attitude to the whole. She was very complaining. But Demmi,
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Demmi isn't polarizing, but she's a pest now people like,
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: I think she'll I think she'll continue to build this character.
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: I think she will be polarizing. But isn't it interesting that,
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, she is the villain
• 49:55
  Speaker 1: of the season and we don't like talk about her
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: that often. But that's truly because lack of a better term,
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: We don't. Really she's not. There's not a true villain
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: in this season. No, she's just very opinionated. She states
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: her mind, she's blunt, and the way she speaks drives
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: me nuts. But here's a crazy part. And you always
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: get this with the villains or the people that are
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: more controversial from the seasons. Batchel I was looking last
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: night on Twitter. Uh and Bachelor contestants really like Emmi.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: They respect her for the way that she stands up
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: to herself. She they respect her for her just like
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: completely open attitude. I don't think it's great for the
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: process of finding love, Like I I think she's gonna
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: burn too many bridges and people are gonna be like,
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: are you This is ridiculous. But I think former contestants
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: are saying she's doing something that nobody else has ever done. Yeah,
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: did you see how chummy it looked like she and
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Hannah were during the road ceremony. M I didn't see this.
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, her arm was around her Hannah, Hannah, that
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: was really snugly with Demi. I Uh, let's move on. Then,
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: so we got the corny Demi situation. Demi continues to
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: be Demi. She continues to call people out, and then
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: we get this moment where Hannah and Caitlin speak. It's weird.
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: It is weird. I want to pause and say, what
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: is your I think both women have a history that
• 51:17
  Speaker 1: we still will never know, Like there's something that they
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: still just touch on this, like, Hey, I'm sorry that
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: there's been pain in our past. Um, I don't know
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: what that pain is when it comes to their friendship.
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, actually I want to hear what you think
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: that was weird? Right? It was so weird, And I
• 51:33
  Speaker 1: would say it would have to do with Kaylin coming
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: out with her sexual assault story, but she producers knew
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: about that going into the season. And I say this
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: only because she was very outspoken about it during her
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: run for Miss USA. So it's interesting if they were
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: trying to change Klin's narrative for the season to wrap
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: bit up like that, I could see them wanting to
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: be like, Okay, no, Calin is going to be a
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: more sympathetic character. We don't want her wrapped up in
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: this pageant drama. Do you understand I'm tracking? Yeah, So
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: you're saying that this Hannah Kalin situation just seemed to
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: be non important anymore when it came to what Klin
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: was about to tell Colton. I think so. I think
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: that might be the truth, but I also think that
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: it was a weird way of wrapping it up, knowing
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: that the story would be revealed at some point. So
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just curious to see whether they just decided to
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: take a break for this episode or the or the
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: drama resumes in the weeks to come. I think it's done.
• 52:40
  Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's done too. That was
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: the general vibe. They didn't They didn't show anything and
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: seen to the next episode. But why would they make
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: it such a thing, in such a vague thing to
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: just wrap it up like that. Here's my theory. I
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: think there are stories um in this season. There are
• 53:03
  Speaker 1: a lot bigger and more compelling than two people arguing
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: about something that they obviously weren't opening up about. We
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: were never going to find out what happened to Hannah
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: and Kaylin in their past to make them no longer
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: be friends. We're never going to know that, and so
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: as a result, I think it just got tiring. Like
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: I was tired of hearing the two. I was obsessed
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: with it. I was completely compelled. But I think I
• 53:28
  Speaker 1: was so compelled because the vagueness of the scenario. I
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: was like, I just need to know what spurred this on.
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: But now, but now that Kylin has come out about
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: her story, I agree that it's just too. It was
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: just a much more important thing to talk about than
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: the pageant drama. It's, uh, you know what, it kind
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: of reminds me of I was thinking back here, when
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: was the last time on The Bachelor Bachelor I that
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: we've had to top contender because they're both like very
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: their top um contestants on this season. I think they're
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: both into Colton. Colton's into both of them that there's
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: been this much like drama behind him. And I was
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: going to say Sean and Nick. Yeah, probably Blake, right,
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: I mean Sean and Nick are the two that stand
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: out the most. Is just they just didn't like each other.
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: They weren't going to get along. There was no way
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: they're going to get along, and they were never really
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: okay with it because it was still a conversation that
• 54:19
  Speaker 1: would happen a lot. But this is more once in
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: a lifetime because they knew they both knew each other
• 54:24
  Speaker 1: before the show. Yeah, yeah, this is what about Wall
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: Boom and what's his name? Last a couple of seasons ago,
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: But they weren't top contenders, No, but they both knew
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: each other and came in with drama. Yeah, that's a
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: good point. Yeah. I don't even remember their names. I
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: don't remember the other Wait, what Blake Eastan? Do you
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: just remember that from the top of your head? East
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: Eastern is a secret like Bachelor Nation. That's awesome that
• 54:49
  Speaker 1: you remember that. Yeah, he's never missed an episode. Um,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: all right, But but bottom line is, I'm still confused.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: I think that I think it's because Caitlin has a
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: lot of other things to be talking about. But I
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: think it was a weird way to end the field
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: is super weird. There was the main focus on the
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: past two episodes, and then it was just like, Okay,
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: we're just gonna sit down, have another vague conversation and
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: be cordial. Now, yeah, out of nowhere. It really was
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: like out of nowhere, all right, let's fix it. Done, Okay,
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: move on. Well all right, well that sounds great. I
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: can see Kalyn being over it now after that conversation,
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: but I can't see Hannah dropping it. We'll have to
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: wait and see. It will be a storeline to see
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: how it plays out. Um. We've talked about Klin at
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the podcast. Her one on one date
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: with Colton UM was was captivating, compelling and and vulnerable
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: and raw and and once again, because we're not going
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: to dive deep into what was shared necessarily um during
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: that day. Again, we've talked about earlier. I do want
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: to take some time and point out that if you
• 56:02
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• 56:06
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• 56:08
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• 56:21
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• 56:27
  Speaker 1: for donations, for support, um to tell your story. So
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: let's touch on though the the aspect of this one
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: on one date that I think um uh was was
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: maybe interesting in terms of love this Kalin now, not
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: only because of the vulnerability that she shared, but this
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: their connection is very, very dynamic. I think she's top
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: place now, you do. She's the front runner. That's so
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you what she is she you're
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: number one right now? Yeah? Interesting? I think she is too,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: because you know who I had as my number one
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: going into this week. I was kind of thinking about this,
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: who Hannah, j Hannah g and en Case, Cassie. But
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: Cassie and Colton's deal is just weird to me right now,
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Like I don't get it. I know that she hasn't
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: been around a lot. That's a typical thing for you know,
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: kind of a real front runner as well. But they
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: had a couple interactions on this episode and I just
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: don't see it. I feel like, either Colton is just
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: so smitten that he's awkward. I thought Colton was gonna
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: be a lot more awkward as the Bachelor than he's been,
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: But he gets awkward with Cassie, really gets awkward. He
• 57:38
  Speaker 1: did with the whole brother sister joke. It went a
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: little far, but I think it was awkward. I like,
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: you awkward and I don't know how to handle myself awkward. Yeah. No,
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: I think it's exactly that. So I still think she's
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: up there, but they're just like their chemistry or their
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: flow is not even close to where Kaitlin's at. Oh no, no, know,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: That's why I think that Kaylin surpassed everyone because they
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: got so vulnerable. He is, like he looks at her
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: with hearts in his eyes, for sure. And then when
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: I saw his interaction with Hannah Gy afterward on the
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: bed and all that, I was like, I don't feel
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: it as much as I felt him with Kylin five
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: minutes ago. Was that awkward for you to watch the
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: bed thing? Yeah? A little bit. It was weird. It
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: was weird. There's like everything was okay until like there's
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: one moment where like reaches over and like pulls her
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: on top, and I was like, what am I about
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: to watch? I know, right, they would have never shown
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: that with another bachelor, No, but with Colton, like they
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: did like a side angle and you can see the
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: space and he's still like smiling like a little boy,
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: and you're like, all right, this is innocent, Like there's
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: this is fine, and then making the bed afterwards just
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: straight up. I just it was just something. I just
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: I didn't have an easy I never have an easy
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: time watching people like make out obviously, like especially on
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: a Rady show when it's like friends of yours or
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: people that you know. Um, but that one was weird. No,
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: that one, that one got me a little bit. Hannah
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: g still frown her so Ashley before we move on
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: to the eliminations after this week's episode, can you give
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: me your top three? I'm still gonna go with Hannah g.
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: Kalin And I mean I would throw Cassie in there,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: but she's had so little time and it's weird how
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: little time she's had. Yeah, uh, she seems I also
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: feel like Cassie maybe like really shy, like she doesn't
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: really know how to pursue a guy, which is I
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: think totally normal. Yeah, I'd say that's my top three
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: as well. Write us at Benn actually at i heeart
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: media dot com for your top threes or tweet us
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: uh and make sure you you hashtag almost Famous podcast.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: So the two people that went home this week were
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: Tracy and Courtney kind of expected both not shockers. Uh,
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: are you going with it? It was only Tracy and Courtney.
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 1: There's not one other that's so weird small elimination week. Uh,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: not surprised by either. No, he did not like the
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: negative vibes that he got from Courtney because even though
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: she may not have been a cancer, I think that
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: she didn't have like positive fun Colton vibes. And then Tracy,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: they just never had chemistry. No, no, no, it was
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: time to go. So uh, as we only have a
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 1: few minutes left, we have some serious Bachelor news. I've
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: been so looking forward to it. It's a ridiculous amount
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: of stuff we have to talk about. Uh. So far,
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: Colton is doing great. Um, he's as innocent as as
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: innocent can be. His only criticism would be that the
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: guy just is a little awkward sometimes around the women,
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: but that's endearing and we love that about him. Hearing
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: I do. Yeah, we we we don't like the smooth operators,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: those guys. We don't speaking to smooth operators. Um. Tanner,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Tolbert and Jade are having their second baby. Actually, I
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: know you know a lot more about this than I do.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: I found out two weeks ago, and we're so happy
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: for them. It was funny because they were trying. It
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: sounds so stupid. They're trying not to conceive at a
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: certain like window of time because they knew that that
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: would interfere with our wedding. And let's just say that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: their due day is very near our wedding, so it'll
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: be interesting. I don't think Jade's going to be able
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: to attend, but and she's supposed to be a bridesmaid.
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 1: But Tanner is supposed to be are efficient, and he
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: is allowing himself more of a window to like keep
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: the you know, to stay inefficient. Jared and I still
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: just need to figure out whether we were okay with
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: having Tanner as the efficient with a strong backup so
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: too prepared deficients, or just to go with our backup
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: who we planned on, who we had already asked to
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: give a speech at our wedding, but the backup doesn't
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: even know who he is yet. J J. Lane definitely not. Um. Yeah,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: I think this is something obviously celebrate. It's just it
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: does kind of like it's just a little sad. I'm
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: not sad. How do you want to say this? Yeah,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: let's say sad, But that is fine. It's we're very
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: very happy for them. They have wanted you know, they've
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: been trying for a little bit now, and we're just
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: really happy it happened. It's kind of just funny the
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: way it landed on a very close date. I'll be honest,
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: I'm mad. I'm really piste off because there's not many
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: times in life that I get to spend time with
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: Channer than Jade, and I knew at your wedding that
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: was gonna be one of those times. And they have
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: to choose to get pregnant. Like they're married, they can
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: have sex any time you want, just wait a few months,
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Like that's not that big of a deal. So for
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: me and me selfishly, I'm not happy about it. Well,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Tanner will come because unless if she gives
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: birth beforehand, he's gonna at least be in attendance. Yeah,
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: that's fine, but we're all we're all very sad and
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: happy at the same time, and they feel the same way.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: It sounds weird, but like they're very stressed to tell us.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they were. Hey, we love them very much.
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: They've been good friends to all of us, but especially
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: you and Jared, and I know they would love to
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: be there. Also a couple of other Bachelor news. Um. Actually,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: I cannot wait to hear some of your thoughts on
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: this stuff. It was Colton's birthday this week. Happy birthday
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: to Colton, Happy birthday, year old baby. He's a twenty
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: seven year old baby. For his birthday, SNL did a
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: spoof on him, the Virgin Hunk Bolton from Turd River, Colorado.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: I love SNL, Um, I just am sick of these
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: like little spoons because it's the same thing every year.
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: The woman come up, Hey, can I steal you? Can
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: I interrupt you? They say the same thing in the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: bachler just sits there and goes interesting. It's like they
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: just changed the bachelor's name and where he's from, and
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 1: that's all they do. They could be more creative with it.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I will say that. But Tour River Colorado is pretty great.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: Uh from Denver, so like, it's not like it's a
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: cool city, right. I got to talk about Chris Harrison
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 1: and his new girlfriend, Lauren Seema, a friend of ours.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: So crazy. I just spent last weekend in Cancoon with
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: Lauren and we spent like of the weekend with her
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: trying to guess who her new boyfriend was. They've been
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: dating for a while now, but she wouldn't crack. We
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: played like twenty questions who are you dating? She didn't crack.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Jared did say, Lauren, is it Chris Harrison? Or has
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: this guy ever accepted a rose? And she just skimmed
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: right by it. She's a host, you know, she knows
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: how to think quickly on her feet. She's good. Yeah,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: So it's really funny. I remember a conversation I had
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: with Lauren. We love Lord. I think this is great.
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: Um unexpected. It feels weird to see him in pictures together, honestly,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: UM like cuddling up. But the had a conversation with her.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I don't know, it's probably been a month ago maybe,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 1: and uh, and she was telling me about her new
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: her new partner. You know, she was dating somebody. She's
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 1: super into it. She didn't know where it was going,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: but she had this like giddiness in her voice, like
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: you could tell us she was really excited, but she
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: doesn't break and and honestly, I was trying to think
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: about it today. I think in that same conversation, she
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: asked me, what's your thoughts on Chris, Like Chris Harrison? Yeah, like,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: because you know Chris and I think at that time
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: I had played golf or something together and we were
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: you know, she just like threw it out there. And
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: I remember that question being asked, and I remember being like,
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: I love Chris, like he's one of the best dudes.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: I know, Like he's been a great to me and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: he's a good guy. And I think she did that
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: in her little sneaky way, um to get some not
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: some third I think she knows him. But anyways, where
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: do you think this is going? Is this? Like? Is
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: it serious? I wanted to be serious so bad. They're
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: so sexy together. Yeah, they are, like it. I like
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: it and I love how happy she was, Like she
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: couldn't stop gushing about whoever her boyfriend was that's so
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: good to hear. She just talked about good she fell
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 1: and she had never felt that before. Happy for them,
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: this is awesome. Um, I bet we're gonna see him
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: out a lot now. Uh, no hiding it. They're all
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: over the news. Also, five year anniversary for Sean and
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: Catherine Bachelor Nations one of bachel nations favorite couples. Uh.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: They celebrated five years since their wedding. And what Sean
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: is now one of three people three bachelors to marry
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: somebody from their season, right, the three bachelor's that's right,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 1: and the only one to marry his winner. Um, good point. Wow,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: that's that's not that's a good point. Hey, I gotta
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: hear what you think of Bibiana slamming Peter cross Her
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: continues to pop up. People love Peter, but people also
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: feel like he uh he's got some some skeletons in
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: the closet. I think we need to bring Biby on
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: on to explain her something so too. I don't really
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: want to speak on her behalf. All we know is
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: from a couple of tweets. Bibby said that when Peter
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: came to visit Miami and that picture was taken them
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: at the heat game that he stayed at her apartment
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 1: for four nights and then ended up leaving without saying
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: goodbye and with ever without saying thank you, and she
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: never heard from him again, kind of like he was
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: using her for a hotel. We've got to check in with, Bibby.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: But you're a spot on. That's exactly how the tweets read,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: and that's what my take was. And it became very
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: very captivating, controversial, and it spread like wildfire amongst the public.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: So the here's the update. We're gonna bring baby on
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: if she wants to talk about it. Here from her Uh,
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: and here exactly went down. Finally. Uh, this guy, he
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: continues to speaking of pests. The pest that has been loved,
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: that's been in our podcast and been great to us,
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 1: but one that has continued to be captivating but been
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 1: quiet recently. Chad Johnson Um maybe one of the most
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: famous villains. Uh, where's a shirt that says f you?
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison? Is he selling these shirts? Like? What is
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: he doing? Well, he's making a headline, that's what he's doing.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: And it's a little bit funny because that's what he
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: said on his season famously infamously, but he's been gone
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: for so long now, and and I mean, I get it,
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: you and I still make a living on this show,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: But why do why do a T shirt? I mean,
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: I guess we're trying. But he rumors he's dating Kinder Wilkinson,
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: who I remember watching like in high school during that
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 1: like what there was a show with Hugh Hefner and stuff.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: Um is this is this a real thing? It looks
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: like it because they were holding hands outside of a restaurant,
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 1: So that makes it seem like they went on a
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: day and they were into each other enough to hold hands.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 1: It's it's interesting to me this. This feels like a
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: good couple, right, yeah, I mean that's like, that's quite
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: the reality star couple. It really. I'm looking at the
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: picture now, that's definitely a couple. I'm looking at the
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: picture now pent like they're something's happening. They're smiling, holding hands,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: dancing on TMC. It's yes, yeah, that doesn't look like
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: a first date things dating thing. That's a dating thing. Chad.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it now unless they want to correct us.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: Chad Johnson and Kender Wilkinson look like they're dating. She's saying,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: she's saying no. She said it in a little bit
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: of a salty way that so maybe it has already.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: You want me to, I'll just read it, okay. She
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: posted a photo of herself with her friend and wrote,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 1: we had a lot to catch up on after about
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: two days of her being m I a filled her
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: in about these recent annoying rumors and how my vagina
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: is still very closed up. Anyways, beautiful day with my
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: love always a breath of fresh air. So maybe they're
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: not sleeping together. Um, I don't know what's happening, Kendra.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: I don't think has really been seen out with anybody
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: significant since she broke up with Hank Basket. She I
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: grew up. I grew up with Kinder Wilkinson. I mean
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: she was. She was a big time star back back
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: in the day. She is still is. But yeah, we'll see.
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: We'll listen to her girls, all right. And I'm dying
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: to have baby on the on the podcast next week
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: to clarify the Peter rumors. Oh, she also just debuted
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: her new boyfriend this week on The Graham Yeah, good
• 1:10:48
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