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Matt Poole Pops The Question In Palm Cove · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer and pop culture news twice a week. I'm
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  Speaker 1: Sophie Torber and coming up on today's show, Matt Paul
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  Speaker 1: pops the question in Palm Cove, Sky Wheatley's public falling
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  Speaker 1: out with her business partner, Tammy Hembrough throws shade at
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  Speaker 1: her baby daddies and Simone Anderson's very close relationship with
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  Speaker 1: her mother-in-law. But first, there's already trouble in paradise between
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  Speaker 1: Veruca Salt and her new husband. I mean, I can't
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  Speaker 1: say I'm completely shocked about this update. The pair got
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  Speaker 1: married after knowing each other for 14 days in Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: So I felt like it was only a matter of
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  Speaker 1: time before we started seeing cracks in this relationship. Well,
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  Speaker 1: he's so new that as followers, we don't even know
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  Speaker 1: his name. He goes by the handle Digi Premium. So
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  Speaker 1: we are going to refer to him as Digi when
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  Speaker 1: we talk about him. Poor guy. I think he just
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  Speaker 1: needs to put his name out there for once and
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  Speaker 1: for all so we know what to call him. Well,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people must have gone on to follow
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  Speaker 1: him because people have been sending in the fact that
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  Speaker 1: he is making a plea to Veruca's followers to pass
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  Speaker 1: on a message to her. So it turns out that
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  Speaker 1: Veruca has already blocked him. So he wrote on his
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  Speaker 1: Instagram stories, y'all tell Veruca, unblock me and I'm sorry,
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  Speaker 1: with two sad faces and a broken heart emoji. He added,
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  Speaker 1: go comment on her posts. So it sounds like he's
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  Speaker 1: done something. Aside from the fact that this would obviously
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  Speaker 1: be upsetting for Veruca, the silver lining is this is
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  Speaker 1: fantastic TikTok content for her. I mean, all of the
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  Speaker 1: videos of her talking about her wedding have gone completely viral.
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  Speaker 1: They have millions of views and everyone was saying, oh
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  Speaker 1: my gosh, we can't wait for you To drop the
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  Speaker 1: story of when it all goes tits up. Well, it
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  Speaker 1: kind of makes Tammy Hempel and Matt Zukowski's marriage not
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  Speaker 1: look so bad. I mean, they were together for at least, what,
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  Speaker 1: four or five months? I think it was seven in
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  Speaker 1: the end. That seems to be the magical number. Wasn't
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  Speaker 1: that how long Olivia Rogers and Justin McKeon were together for?
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  Speaker 1: I think people probably think, okay, if I make it
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  Speaker 1: to six months, it doesn't look as bad if I
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  Speaker 1: call things off. God, that's a sad milestone to be
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  Speaker 1: holding out to hit. I just hope that whatever has happened,
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  Speaker 1: Veruca tells us very shortly. She will. I think this
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  Speaker 1: will be an evolving story, which we'll be keeping our
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  Speaker 1: listeners across.
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  Speaker 2: Hi, guys.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Matt Poole, former Ironman champion. Former Ironman Matt Poole
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  Speaker 1: has popped the question to Annalise Oatway whilst on a
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  Speaker 1: family vacation to Palm Cove. Matt got down on one
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  Speaker 1: knee on a palm line beach alongside their six-month-old son, Parker,
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  Speaker 1: and his three-year-old daughter, Posy, who he shares with his ex-fiancée,
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  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough. God, those pool jeans are strong. Posy and
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  Speaker 1: Parker literally look like twins. They are so adorable. They are,
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  Speaker 1: and I think it's a really nice touch that he
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  Speaker 1: proposed in front of their two kids, not to compare engagements,
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  Speaker 1: but he actually did the same thing when he proposed
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  Speaker 1: to Tammy Hembrough. So that took place on a boat,
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  Speaker 1: and he had her two kids, Wolf and Saskia, there.
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  Speaker 1: And I think Wolf held up a little sign. They
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  Speaker 1: both did, actually. If you want to be really specific, Now,
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  Speaker 1: they shared the announcement on Instagram and Matt wrote, let's
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  Speaker 1: plan a wedding, Mrs.
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  Speaker 2: Paul.
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  Speaker 1: I found that interesting because obviously he put up the
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  Speaker 1: post and it was one of those collaborative posts, but
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  Speaker 1: it seemed like he was very much driving the social
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  Speaker 1: media around it. Well, probably because he's got the bigger following.
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  Speaker 1: For those who don't know, Annalise actually works as a
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  Speaker 1: nurse and she subsequently has got a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: following off the back of Matt Paul and his connection
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  Speaker 1: with Tammy Hembrough, I suppose, essentially. I mean, To be fair,
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  Speaker 1: in Matt Paul's own right, he is an Ironman, but
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  Speaker 1: I think he's had a lot more eyes on him
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  Speaker 1: since his connection with Tammy. Now, we've got to get
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  Speaker 1: into the ring because it was quite a unique looking ring.
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  Speaker 1: It was made by Jeweler Son Del Dol, which is
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  Speaker 1: a Bastoke studio in New South Wales. I am going
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  Speaker 1: to do my best to describe this ring. I'm not 100%
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  Speaker 1: sure what the actual stone is. It looks like a diamond. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I wasn't sure. I thought maybe it could have been
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  Speaker 1: a different stone. Whatever it is, it is the shape
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  Speaker 1: of a pear and it's flipped on the side and
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  Speaker 1: it is then surrounded by a chunky gold band. It's
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  Speaker 1: difficult not to talk about this ring without comparing it
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  Speaker 1: to the one Matt gave Tammy Hembrough. And I feel
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  Speaker 1: bad comparing them. But I mean, when you do propose
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  Speaker 1: to Australia's biggest influencer, that moment is going to be
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  Speaker 1: burnt in a lot of people's minds. And all I
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  Speaker 1: could think about was, oh, I preferred Tammy's ring. Like
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  Speaker 1: she had this beautiful, massive oval diamond surrounded by smaller diamonds.
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  Speaker 1: It's like my dream engagement ring. I think, yeah, the
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  Speaker 1: unfortunate thing is her engagement ring from Matt Paul was
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  Speaker 1: probably one of my favorite influencer rings ever. That being said,
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  Speaker 1: this ring that he created for Annalise was very sentimental
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  Speaker 1: and I think that it was her dream ring. Now,
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  Speaker 1: underneath the post, the jeweler congratulated the couple and said
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  Speaker 1: that it was an honor to craft her ring. And
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  Speaker 1: Matt replied reiterating that it was Annalise's dream ring and
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  Speaker 1: that inside the ring are both Posey and Parker's birthstones,
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  Speaker 1: which is a very special touch. And I think it's
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  Speaker 1: particularly sweet to see the relationship that Annalise has with Posey. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: she sees her as her own daughter. Now, the ring
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  Speaker 1: divided opinions on social media. One person went as far
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  Speaker 1: as to say it was a complete disappointment, which I
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  Speaker 1: thought was pretty harsh. Like, just... Have your thoughts privately,
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  Speaker 1: but you don't have to voice them on the post. Yeah, well,
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  Speaker 1: one of Annalisa's friends weighed in in the comment section
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  Speaker 1: and they revealed that, as you said, Kate, Annalisa's actually
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  Speaker 1: a nurse and because the ring is super flat, it
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  Speaker 1: means that she can wear it during her shifts. She
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  Speaker 1: also added that Matt obviously took that into consideration when
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  Speaker 1: he got it custom made for her. I mean, that
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  Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense because you see these women
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  Speaker 1: like Molly May and Tammy Hembrough walking around with these
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  Speaker 1: absolute massive rocks on their fingers. And I always think, how...
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  Speaker 1: practical really is that. I mean, I often take off
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  Speaker 1: my jewelry. I think I just get like a sensory
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  Speaker 1: overload of having jewelry on. I actually remember my hairdresser
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  Speaker 1: saying to me, don't get a ring that has diamonds
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  Speaker 1: around the band because you're just going to get poo
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  Speaker 1: stuck on it when you have a child from changing nappies.
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  Speaker 1: I actually did opt for a wedding band with diamonds
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  Speaker 1: around it, but I actually haven't fallen into that problem yet.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Both my wedding band and engagement ring have that style
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  Speaker 1: of diamonds around the band and I haven't had any issues,
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  Speaker 1: but again, I often don't wear them when I'm changing nappies. Now,
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  Speaker 1: as you would expect, the comment section absolutely blew up
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  Speaker 1: under Matt Paul's post with a lot of well wishes.
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  Speaker 1: The most notable was Tammy Hembrough's ex-husband, Matt Sikowsky, who wrote, Congratulations, guys.
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  Speaker 1: So happy for you both. Now, Matt Paul actually responded
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  Speaker 1: to this comment writing, Thanks, mate. So what about Tammy?
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  Speaker 1: Because there's been a lot of speculation that there's bad
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  Speaker 1: blood between them. No, so I searched his likes. She
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  Speaker 1: did not like the post. To my knowledge, she has
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  Speaker 1: not commented on it. I cannot see a comment from her.
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  Speaker 1: And this has sparked further speculation that there is growing
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  Speaker 1: bad blood between Tammy and Matt because he was caught
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  Speaker 1: out liking a parody video, which mocked Tammy for filming
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  Speaker 1: herself crying following her divorce. I definitely think something is
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  Speaker 1: going on there. We're going to dive a little bit
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  Speaker 1: deeper into that later in this episode. Now, another interesting
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  Speaker 1: element of this proposal that I want to finish on
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  Speaker 1: is The fact that this took place on what appeared
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  Speaker 1: to be a paid trip to Port Douglas and Palm Cove,
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  Speaker 1: or at least a gifted trip, because in the lead
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  Speaker 1: up to this proposal, Matt was posting all about his stay. Now,
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  Speaker 1: he tagged his resort, which surprisingly wasn't actually my favourite
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  Speaker 1: place on earth, the Grand Mirage Sheraton, which we've seen
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  Speaker 1: a lot of influencers recently staying at. Maybe he didn't
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  Speaker 1: want to propose there because Tammy's other ex and baby daddy,
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  Speaker 1: Rhys Hawkins, proposed to his wife, former wife, now London,
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  Speaker 1: go in there. So maybe he's like, I've got to
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  Speaker 1: do it somewhere else. Did they actually ever get married
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  Speaker 1: or were they just fiancés? Well, it was around COVID
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  Speaker 1: and all of a sudden Rhys started referring to London
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  Speaker 1: as his wife. Oh, that's right. And there was a
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  Speaker 1: bit of speculation that they got married in a small
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  Speaker 1: ceremony and were going to do a big thing later on,
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  Speaker 1: but then that never happened. They broke up. Okay. Well,
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  Speaker 1: For anyone who stays in Port Douglas, the place that
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  Speaker 1: Matt and Annalise were actually staying is the Pullman. It
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  Speaker 1: looks like a much more family-friendly resort. Now, he tagged
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  Speaker 1: them in the post. I'm not actually sure if they
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  Speaker 1: gave him a trip for free because there was no
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  Speaker 1: sort of paid partnership tools being used. But he did
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  Speaker 1: appear to have a paid partnership with a rental car
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  Speaker 1: company over there. So I wonder... How stoked those companies
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  Speaker 1: would have been that he ended up popping the question
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  Speaker 1: over there? Because can you imagine the engagement on his
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  Speaker 1: page right now? Yes, win-win for everyone, really.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I am here to spill the tea.
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  Speaker 1: Sky Wheatley and her business partner, Tori Jeong, appear to
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  Speaker 1: have rekindled their friendship. The former besties who run Good
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  Speaker 1: People Apparel dramatically unfollowed each other last month. Now, the
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  Speaker 1: timing of this bust up was particularly tough for Sky
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  Speaker 1: because she had just announced her breakup with her baby daddy,
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  Speaker 1: Lockie Waugh. She actually ended up backtracking a couple of
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  Speaker 1: weeks later, though, saying that she and Lockie plan to
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  Speaker 1: work through things when they're not so busy with their
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  Speaker 1: house renovations. And she explained on a podcast that one
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  Speaker 1: of the reasons for this backflip was because she was
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  Speaker 1: in the midst of a friendship breakdown and couldn't mentally
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  Speaker 1: go through both at the same time. Now, fast forward
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  Speaker 1: a couple of weeks and Sky and Tori have refollowed
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  Speaker 1: each other. Now, the refollow comes at an interesting time
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  Speaker 1: because Tori has just announced to her 42,000 followers on
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  Speaker 1: TikTok that she's split from her partner of 10 years.
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  Speaker 1: So she announced that she's officially single and said that
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  Speaker 1: things have been up and down with her partner since March. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Tori has four kids. three of which she shares with
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  Speaker 1: this partner. And she said that she has been caring
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  Speaker 1: for her kids 99% of the time while her partner,
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  Speaker 1: who is a FIFO worker, is away. And she admitted
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  Speaker 1: that his job is half the reason for the split
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  Speaker 1: because he is so absent and she always feels alone.
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  Speaker 1: It's quite interesting because similar to Sky and Lockie, Tori
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  Speaker 1: said that she is still living in the same house
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  Speaker 1: as her ex as they figure out what they're going
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  Speaker 1: to do. Well, I suppose that's when he's there. Yeah. Well,
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  Speaker 1: she said that she's been living out of a suitcase.
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  Speaker 1: So when he does come back from work. she goes
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  Speaker 1: and stays with a friend. I think this situation in
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  Speaker 1: the early days of a breakup when kids are involved
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  Speaker 1: is probably quite common. It's just not something that we
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  Speaker 1: hear a lot of people talk about. Yeah. Well, I
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  Speaker 1: really feel for Tori because she said that she's shit
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  Speaker 1: scared about what she's going to do financially because she
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  Speaker 1: is primary carer of her four kids. And the only
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  Speaker 1: really money that she has coming in is through her
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  Speaker 1: small business, which she owns with Sky. So, you know,
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  Speaker 1: maybe this is also why they've had to get over
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  Speaker 1: their fight and become friends so they can try and
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  Speaker 1: make as much money from this business as they can.
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  Speaker 1: Or it might have been the catalyst for the fight
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  Speaker 1: because when you own a business, if someone is personally
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  Speaker 1: going through financial stress, they're going to be obviously wanting
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  Speaker 1: to crack down and try and make the business as
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  Speaker 1: successful as possible. Whereas Sky appears to also have a
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  Speaker 1: lot on her plate with their renovations and everything that's
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  Speaker 1: going on with Lockie. Well, I just think it's quite
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  Speaker 1: clear that Sky and Tori have reconnected over the fact
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  Speaker 1: that they now find themselves in the same situation with
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  Speaker 1: their relationships. They've both split with their long-term partners who
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  Speaker 1: they share kids with. It would be very tough and
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  Speaker 1: it would be helpful to have someone going through the
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  Speaker 1: same thing. Now, underneath Tori's announcement, a follower wrote, you
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  Speaker 1: and Sky can move in together. Now, another follower responded
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  Speaker 1: under that comment saying, I don't think that they're friends anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I saw somewhere. And Tori responded saying, Sky and I
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  Speaker 1: are fine, guys. As much as it sounds like a
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  Speaker 1: great idea to move in with your best friend, considering
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  Speaker 1: their friendship is sort of touch and go at the moment,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's a good idea that they join
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  Speaker 1: forces at this stage.
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  Speaker 3: Learn from my cock ups for surgery pecking and only
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  Speaker 3: peck the essentials.
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  Speaker 1: Simone Anderson has shared the results of a recent breast
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  Speaker 1: augmentation surgery. Posting to her 430,000 followers, the New Zealand
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  Speaker 1: influencer shared a carousel of faceless images of her new boobs.
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  Speaker 1: This popped up on my news feed and it gave
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  Speaker 1: me quite a jump scare. I was not expecting it
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  Speaker 1: that day. Well, she did abide by Instagram's rules. So
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  Speaker 1: her nipples were covered with surgical tape. I want to
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  Speaker 1: put that out there. Now, for those who aren't across
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  Speaker 1: Simone's content, she gained a massive following after documenting her
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  Speaker 1: weight loss journey. and her subsequent skin revision and removal surgery.
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  Speaker 1: So alongside the images of her boobs, the 34-year-old wrote,
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  Speaker 1: Holy tits, I can't believe they're mine. I never thought
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  Speaker 1: my figure could look like this after losing nearly 100 kilograms.
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  Speaker 1: I realized almost nine and a half years ago after
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  Speaker 1: my first mummy makeover that my loose skin couldn't be
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  Speaker 1: fully addressed in one go, something no amount of exercise
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  Speaker 1: or training would have been able to fix. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to wait until I was done having children and had
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  Speaker 1: built some strength back before undergoing such a massive surgery again.
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  Speaker 1: And let me tell you, it was so worth the wait.
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  Speaker 1: She finished the post by outlining the size of the
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  Speaker 1: breast implants and also a snippet of what her husband
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  Speaker 1: Trent texted her. So he said that it was the
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  Speaker 1: best money he's ever spent and he hasn't even seen
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  Speaker 1: them in real life yet. I don't know if we
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  Speaker 1: needed that added there. I don't want to hear that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't really like that or the use of the
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  Speaker 1: word mummy makeover. In saying that, I think it is
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  Speaker 1: good that she's being transparent about the surgeries that she's
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  Speaker 1: had following this dramatic weight loss, because there would be
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  Speaker 1: a lot of people that may be in her position
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  Speaker 1: and be thinking, oh, why has my skin not bounced back?
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  Speaker 1: So I'm glad that she's saying, oh, well, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I've had to do all of these things in order
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  Speaker 1: to look like this. However, calling it a mummy makeover
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  Speaker 1: is It's like, well, that infers that all mums after
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  Speaker 1: having kids need this type of surgery. Yeah, I don't
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  Speaker 1: really like the term mummy makeover because I feel like
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  Speaker 1: there's almost this connotation that you have to fix yourself
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  Speaker 1: after having a child. Yeah, it definitely plays into bounce
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  Speaker 1: back culture in this sense of you have to revert
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  Speaker 1: yourself back to what you were like before, be that
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  Speaker 1: getting a new haircut or makeup or surgery. Now, Simone
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  Speaker 1: must have really read my mind because when I saw
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  Speaker 1: these photos go up on Instagram. I thought, oh God,
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  Speaker 1: what do the people that know her think? Like, what
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  Speaker 1: does her mother-in-law think? And she said, am I worried
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  Speaker 1: about my mother-in-law seeing my boobies online? She was one
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  Speaker 1: of the first people I sent a photo of them to.
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  Speaker 1: So no, lol. How do you feel about that? If
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  Speaker 1: you were getting breast implants, would you feel comfortable to
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  Speaker 1: send your mother-in-law a photo of them? I think the
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  Speaker 1: scenario is a little bit more layered because it was
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  Speaker 1: reconstructive surgery after this dramatic weight loss. It wasn't just like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: I want bigger boobs. It was sort of restoring what
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  Speaker 1: her body was like before she put on the weight
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  Speaker 1: and had the excess skin. Still, I don't know if
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  Speaker 1: I'd be sending a photo to my mother-in-law. I could
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  Speaker 1: more see sending you guys a photo, but I'd still
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  Speaker 1: find that weird. I mean, a couple of my friends
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  Speaker 1: have got breast implants and one friend was open to
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  Speaker 1: sending me a Snapchat of what they looked like. And
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  Speaker 1: I think it's perhaps because they're new and they don't
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  Speaker 1: quite feel like yours yet. I mean, it just depends
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  Speaker 1: how open you are about sharing photos of your body.
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  Speaker 1: I think the weird thing is the whole mother-in-law thing.
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  Speaker 1: It seems a bit taboo to show your mother-in-law your
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  Speaker 1: new boobs. Particularly when your husband's sending you these texts,
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  Speaker 1: ogling them and being like, best money I've ever spent.
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  Speaker 2: Like all good love stories, it started on a box.
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  Speaker 1: There were love hearts sort of popping in the sky.
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  Speaker 1: I think I suddenly slipped off my chair. It came
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  Speaker 1: out of nowhere. You were just upright and then suddenly
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  Speaker 1: you were not.
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  Speaker 2: Suddenly I was off.
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  Speaker 1: Olivia Rogers has revealed she's moving in with her boyfriend
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  Speaker 1: of two years, Hugo Brakey. The former Miss Universe Australia
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  Speaker 1: winner said she's excited for this next chapter and referred
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  Speaker 1: to the business consultant as the love of her life, Kate.
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  Speaker 1: When we spoke about these two a couple of weeks ago,
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  Speaker 1: we said we were on engagement watch. I think that
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  Speaker 1: has just intensified. I am predicting an engagement in the
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  Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. I want to see Olivia in
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: her bridal era again. And I'm sure there's a lot
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: of brands who would also like to see her in
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: that because when she was getting married, I literally wanted
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: everything she had. I mean, I didn't quite have the
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: budget to replicate what she had, but... Yeah, even though
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: the wedding didn't work, I used it as a little
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: bit of wedding inspo myself. In this post, Olivia seemed
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: quite emotional about the fact that she was leaving this
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: apartment because it had become her safe haven after her
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: divorce because she quickly had to sell the home that
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: she shared with her ex-husband, Justin McKeon, after their split.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: And she actually documented the whole thing, which was quite
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: interesting at the time. So she wrote, I moved in
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: here three years ago during one of the hardest chapters
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: of my life. going through a divorce and trying to
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: find my feet on my own. This little apartment became
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: my safe place where I healed, rebuilt and found myself again.
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: Now I'm leaving to move in with the love of
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: my life. Forever grateful for the chapter I had in
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: this place and beyond excited for the next one. Is
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: it wrong that I'm really nosy to see what Hugo's
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: house or apartment looks like? Why am I imagining something
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: quite luxe? Well, why is it necessarily that she's moving
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: into his place? Like maybe they've got one together. Yeah,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: that's a good point. For some reason, I just assumed
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: that she was shacking up with him in his old place. See,
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: I think that they're probably going to get a place
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: together because it's always awkward moving into someone's house or
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: apartment when they've had it by themselves for quite a
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: number of years. It feels like their space, whereas you
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: want a space that's yours. Well, actually, reflecting on the
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: interview that she did with Hugo a couple of weeks
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: ago on her old podcast, she said that he lived
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: with a roommate who, didn't they nickname him Spike from
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: Notting Hill? Yeah, because they were comparing their relationship to
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: that of Hugh Grant and Julia Roberts in that movie,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you know, the celebrity and the lowly bookshop owner.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Like, I'm not trying to like call anyone out, but Yeah,
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: it's just I feel like I've always had to sort
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: of do everything. Like, yeah.
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough has thrown shade at her baby daddies, declaring
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: she has always felt like a single mum. Appearing on
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: the debut episode of her sister Emily's podcast, Tammy didn't
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: hold back when asked about the struggles of motherhood, Kate. Yeah,
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: I don't think her former fiancé Matt Paul will be
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: too pleased. Rhys Hawkins either, but I think he's used
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: to being called out about his parenting since moving to Bali.
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: But it's a different case for Matt Paul because he's
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: always gotten a bit of a good guy edit. Often
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I think it's in contrast to Reese. Yeah, well, to
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: be fair to Matt, he does have split custody of
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: their daughter Posey and he very much appears to be
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: in her life. He posts a lot of content about her.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: That makes a big difference. And from the outside looking in,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: it seemed like the two were on pretty good terms.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: That was until Tammy announced her divorce from Matt Sikowsky
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: and cracks started appearing. Because it seems like Matt Paul
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: has sided with Matt Sikowsky. There's been a few Instagram
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: comments alluding to it, not to mention Matt and his
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: partner Annalise liking that parody video that you touched on
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: earlier in this podcast. Yeah, the two Matts budding relationship
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: seems really odd to me. It's kind of like they
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: both caught up to bitch about their ex. That's sort
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: of the vibes of what's going on here. Now, Tammy's
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: tone towards Matt has definitely changed publicly. While discussing the
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: challenges of motherhood on this podcast, Tammy revealed that she
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: always felt like a single mom, even when she was
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: in a relationship with her kids' fathers. Let's have a
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: listen to what she said. I still bring Rosie to
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: the office with me.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: I feel like even in like my like past relationships,
• 19:18
  Speaker 2: I've sort of always felt like a single mom. Like
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: I feel like I never really had a partner that
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: I felt actually helped me in that sense as like
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: you know, like a co-parent.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Now she went on to say that she wasn't trying
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: to call anyone out, but she feels like she's always
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: had to do everything. I felt so sorry for her
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: when I heard this, because I just can't even comprehend
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: one being a mom at that age. Like she was
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: only 19 when she had her first child and having
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: to navigate all of these breakups and holding it together
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: for these young kids. It's just incredible what she's gone through.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: Well, Amy actually revealed after Tammy's breakup, presumably with Reese Hawkins,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: that she moved in with her to help with a
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: young Wolf and Saskia. The other interesting part of this
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: episode was when they discussed whether they would let their
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: kids have social media or not. Emily seemed more passionate
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: than the others about it. She said that she loves
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: the new social media ban that's coming into effect for
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: kids under 16 and that under no circumstance would she
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: allow her kids to have it. You know, when someone's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: really passionate about something, it felt like Amy and Tammy
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: couldn't really disagree. So they said, yeah, they wouldn't let
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: their kids have social media, which I was kind of thinking, well,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: what's the difference? Because you put them on your own
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: social media platforms. Well, it was weird because Tammy said
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: that she wouldn't, but then she admitted that Wolf actually
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: wants to start up his own YouTube channel. Let's have
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: a listen to what she said.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Wolf is like begging me to start a YouTube channel.
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: He'd actually be really good.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: And I'm like low-key, I want to just be like, yeah, sure.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Like play with toys on there?
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: I don't even know.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: They film me with their iPad.
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: I swear he like has a YouTube channel that he's
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: like secretly uploading.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: What's his username?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: Do you know? No, he definitely does not actually have one.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: But he does just like vlog on his iPad around
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: the house. Like not anywhere. Low-key, he would actually be
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: really good.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: He actually would. Because he's such a character. Do we
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: reckon he does have a secret YouTube channel somewhere? Because
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: if he does, I'm sure a lot of media publications
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: would love to get their hands on the content he's
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: putting out there about his mum. Oh, I mean, us included.
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: We would very much like to see that content. It
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: was pretty funny because Tammy and Emily said that their
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: kids love watching their vlogs. I mean, I remember growing
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: up and loving watching old family videos. I suppose it's
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: the same thing, except millions of people don't see it. Well,
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Sarah's Day said her son, Fox, loves watching his own
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: birth vlog. So it'd be pretty cool. It would be
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: really cool. I mean, just not everyone seeing it. Like
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: if your parents back in the day actually filmed all
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: the lead up to your birth, if you could watch
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: that privately, it would be great. But I don't think
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: I'd want it out there for everyone to see. What
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: did you think about this first episode of Emily's podcast? Look,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: I don't want to be mean, but I think the
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: two questions that we covered really saved the whole episode
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: because it was a bit of a snoresville otherwise. I
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: just felt like Nova gave Emily a bunch of really
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: basic motherhood questions and they were trying to be really
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: PC about it all. See, I actually quite enjoyed it
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: because I don't normally hear Tammy and her sisters talking
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: about motherhood. And at the moment, it's a bit of
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: my Roman empire. I love hearing about how people, particularly
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: people in the public eye and people who run their
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: own businesses are coping having children. So I kind of
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: related to it as much as I could. I just
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: found it a little bit boring. I mean, I have
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: heard Tammy interviewed quite a lot. I just didn't feel
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: like they gave heaps. Like I think that they warmed up,
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: but I'm looking forward to part two because I think
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: there's going to be room for redemption. It sounds like
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: it's going to be a lot more interesting because Emily
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: said they're going to go deep on topics they haven't
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: discussed online before, including heartbreak, grieving and loss. So I'm
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: expecting big things.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: But in all honesty, I have been struggling.
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: Saffron Barker has admitted her move to Dubai has put
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: pressure on her relationship with her boyfriend, Josh Milne. The
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: couple made the move from the UK to Dubai just
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: eight months into their relationship. Now, for some background, Josh
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: is a 23-year-old Scottish model who lived in Dubai during
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: his teenage years. When he and Saffron first got together,
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: he moved so quickly into her mansion in Brighton. Everyone
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: was like getting whiplash from the whole thing. And he
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: seemed to really integrate himself into her life with her family. Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: I was like, Saffron's mum, Wendy, is going to love
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: him because he is all about Saffron and their family.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: It's quite clear that's what they've been looking for because
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: Saffron is the type of person who on her podcast
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: spoke about how the fact that if you're a girl,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: your boyfriend should come and spend Christmas day with you
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: and your family. They shouldn't agree with her. No, I
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: think that you have to see both families. Oh, I'm
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: just joking. I mean, as you say, though, Kate, Saffron
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: is incredibly family orientated. She has built this mega mansion
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: at Brighton, which is just down the road from her parents.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: She also lives very close to her two brothers and
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: their partners who also live in the same suburb. In fact,
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: her sister-in-law recently just moved back to Brighton because they
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: started a business together, so a pajama brand. So she
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: would have been absolutely spewing to find out that Saffron
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: was moving to the Middle East. Yeah, so this move
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: really shocked everyone, including her followers. Saffron has always spoken
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: about wanting to pursue an acting career, which meant she
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: would live part-time in LA and part-time in the UK.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: But she never mentioned the prospect of moving to the
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: Middle East. And when Saffron announced the move to her followers,
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: she explained that Josh had had to slot himself into
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: her life and move into her house. And it was
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: time for them to move somewhere where they were on
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: more of an even playing field. However, it became quite
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: apparent early on that moving to Dubai was actually Josh's dream.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Because as you touched on, Kate, he lived there as
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: a teenager. And we later found out in Saffron's vlogs
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: that his dad actually still lives there, as well as
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: a lot of his friends from childhood who they've subsequently
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: been hanging out with. So it doesn't really seem to
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: be this even playing field. It seems like Saffron is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: now having to slot herself into his life, which seems
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: quite established in Dubai. Yeah, and it seems like it's
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: starting to cause a bit of friction because in Saffron's
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: recent YouTube video, she opened up about how she was
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: coping with the move. So she titled the video, I
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: have been struggling lately. Let's take a listen to some
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: of what she said.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: But in all honesty, I have been struggling because I just,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: somebody who honestly can't survive without routine. Like I have
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: to have a routine and I have to be productive
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: and I have to be doing things. And if I'm not,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: that's just really stressful. It sounds ridiculous. But even like
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: when I go and do like things that you should
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: just enjoy and be in the moment, all I'm constantly
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: doing is thinking about the next thing. And I think
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: that's something I definitely do need to work on. You know,
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: if Josh and I are on holiday and we're laying
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: around the beach, all I'm thinking about is how I
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: want to be working. which I know it's like a
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: little bit weird because my mind just honestly doesn't switch
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: off and I definitely do need to learn to teach
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: myself that and learn to have balance. But yeah, where,
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: We just haven't had like furniture and we've been moving around.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Even though we've been in this place now for maybe
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: over a month, we've had like people come and stay
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: with us and I've been traveling a lot and it's
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: still just, we still just haven't like got ourselves into
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: a routine. And let me tell you, we're not there.
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: We are so far from it. And it's definitely been
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: putting like way more pressure on our relationship as well because,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: you know, like, neither of us have really been living
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: like a reality if that makes sense because we've kind
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: of just been like here there and everywhere and although
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: moving to Dubai is probably one of the easiest places
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: you can move to it's still obviously a long process
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: and there's lots you've got to do and you know
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: finding your feet and stuff like that and just meeting
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: new people and not having your family and friends here
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: like it just yeah it's just a whole different.
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: Experience I was really surprised to hear her admit the
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: toll that this move has actually put on their relationship
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: in saying that it's not surprising at all. Even if
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: you have the strongest relationship, if you are living in
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: a different country with one person you've only known for
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: a couple of months and you're in this young relationship,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: there are always going to be arguments. You don't have
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: any outside source to speak to or complain or vent to.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: I found it interesting that she referenced that they're not currently,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: you know, living a normal life, like living the reality
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: that most people do and that's a problem. Because you
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: would think for a lot of couples that if you
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: got to go traveling all the time and you got
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: to party and eat whatever you want and have family
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: staying over and friends staying over, that that would be
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: like a honeymoon period for most couples. But she's saying
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: that she's craving the stability that they used to have
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: at Brighton. But to me, what she's craving is having
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: her family there. I also think it has a lot
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: to do with her career, though, because she has been
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: incredibly career focused ever since she started her channel as
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: a teenager. And as we touched on in the past
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: couple of years, she has set herself some pretty lofty
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: goals when it comes to acting. And it seems like
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: this move to Dubai has meant that she hasn't been
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: able to focus on it. And maybe there's a bit
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: of resentment creeping in. It seems like this move to
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: Dubai is all about Josh and what he wants to
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: do and maybe some modeling opportunities around there. I also
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: think for her, she's very into fitness and she said
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: that she's finding that they are falling into bad habits.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So her boyfriend, Josh, doesn't like to get up early
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: in the morning, whereas she likes to do a lot
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: of early morning exercise classes. I mean, when you move
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: in with someone, you truly find out their bad habits
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: and maybe the fact that you're potentially not on the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: same page. Now, some of Saffron's followers weighed in on
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the comment section of the YouTube One user wrote, I
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: feel you are so out of your comfort zone in Dubai.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Sometimes that's not a bad thing, but I can't help
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: think you need to go back to the UK. I'm
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: worried about Saffron. She is one of my favorite influencers
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: and I couldn't help but feel like she just looked
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: really sad in her YouTube video. There was this sadness
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: in her eyes that I haven't seen before. Is it
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: a bit of a cry for help or sort of
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: dropping hints that she will be moving back soon to
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: the UK? The sad thing is I actually really like
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: her and Josh together as a couple. They complement each
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: other really well. I think it's just clear that they're
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: both very young and potentially just a bit selfish. I
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: think anyone's selfish at that age. Yeah, but do we
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: think that she's going to be back in the UK
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: long term soon? I don't know. I really don't know.
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: I'd like to see her move back and then move
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: back together, but it just seems like they're in a
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: bit of a struggle at the moment. Well, that is
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: where we're going to leave things today. If you do
• 29:39
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• 29:42
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  Speaker 1: This episode was recorded on the traditional land of the
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Kaurna people of the Adelaide Plains. We pay respect to
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: elders past and present.
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: So you