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Friday September 11, 2026 | 9/11 25th Anniversary · The M&M Experience

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  Speaker 1: Mark Davis and Mike Gallagher. This is M & M Extra.
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  Speaker 2: You're sweet to be back on a day like today
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  Speaker 2: after being off the two of us. DeMarc had some
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  Speaker 2: days off. I had some days off, and we are
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  Speaker 2: reunited on the 25th anniversary of September 11th. This very,
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  Speaker 2: my colleague, I see you got your Red, white, and
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  Speaker 2: blue shirt on today. I guess you're in a very
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  Speaker 2: patriotic mood.
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  Speaker 3: I made a decision. I don't usually roll out with
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  Speaker 3: this thing on the 4th of July. It's that loud.
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  Speaker 3: It's that out there. I mean, I'm half kidding. I
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  Speaker 3: have worn it on some 4th of Julys.
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  Speaker 2: It's a statement.
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  Speaker 3: For those just doing the– and by the way, I'm
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  Speaker 3: a big believer in flag etiquette, the flag code. You're
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  Speaker 3: not supposed to actually wear an actual American flag as
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  Speaker 3: a garment. But things that are stylized like this to
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  Speaker 3: my on the right side of me is the stars
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  Speaker 3: and the dark blue of the stars. And then the
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  Speaker 3: stripes are on the left side of me. I am
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  Speaker 3: a walking flag, essentially. And it's it's so out there.
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  Speaker 3: And I held it up in the closet last night
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  Speaker 3: with Lisa. And I said, should I wear this thing tomorrow?
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  Speaker 3: And she said, what kind of mood are you in?
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  Speaker 3: I said, I am in the mood on a day
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  Speaker 3: of great gravity, a day of continuing grief, a day
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  Speaker 3: of solemn remembrance, especially coming off these last two days
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  Speaker 3: of this GOP midterm convention, which we'll maybe take a
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  Speaker 3: second and talk about, too, because the confluence of all
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  Speaker 3: of it, Mike, 9-11, Charlie Kirk, a two-day gathering to
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  Speaker 3: save our country. I'm ready to run through a wall
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  Speaker 3: with my patriotism. I'm so proud of this country and
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  Speaker 3: so in the mood to stand up for this country
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  Speaker 3: and celebrate on this 25th anniversary that we are still here.
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  Speaker 3: We are still standing. We literally rose from the ashes.
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  Speaker 3: So I slapped that shirt on this morning and I
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  Speaker 3: support my own decision.
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  Speaker 2: Niall Ferguson over at the Free Press wrote an article
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  Speaker 2: that we posted. I talked a little bit about today
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  Speaker 2: earlier about how 9-11 did not doom the American empire.
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  Speaker 2: Far from it. You know– Some people, a senior advisor
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  Speaker 2: to George W. Bush, he sort of cynically reports, once said,
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  Speaker 2: we're an empire now, and when we act, we create
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  Speaker 2: our own reality. Of course, that's not supposed to be official,
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  Speaker 2: and we're not supposed to be an empire. And yet,
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  Speaker 2: and yet, there's something about unleashing a storm of steel
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  Speaker 2: against the Persians, as the United States has done this year,
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  Speaker 2: he puts it. he puts it, that does seem sort
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  Speaker 2: of empiry. A republic, if you can keep it, was
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  Speaker 2: Benjamin Franklin's wry definition of what he and the others
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  Speaker 2: thought they had created. But he talks about the fact is,
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  Speaker 2: you know, let's rewind the tape and look at the
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  Speaker 2: last 25 years about how unusual we are, where we
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  Speaker 2: stand today. as a country and how nothing happened that
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  Speaker 2: defeated us, even though they wanted to. They wanted to
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  Speaker 2: break us. They wanted to destroy any semblance of unity.
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  Speaker 2: And the one thing I keep thinking about, Mark, and
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  Speaker 2: forgive me for being so cynical on a day like today,
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  Speaker 2: is there any doubt in your mind that if 9-11
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  Speaker 2: happened today, we wouldn't see an army of protesters in
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  Speaker 2: the streets of America particularly on our college campuses, in
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  Speaker 2: our blue, blue cities, supporting the actual 9-11 hijackers. Do
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  Speaker 2: you have any doubt about that, Mark?
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  Speaker 3: I will have a sliver of it because you've really,
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  Speaker 3: that's an interesting blindside question in the form of an
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  Speaker 3: intellectual exercise. And I love that. I love when you
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  Speaker 3: do that. It's part of the charm of the exercise here.
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  Speaker 3: So the premise is if in this era of social
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  Speaker 3: media and 25 years more of just kind of the
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  Speaker 3: decline of civil discourse in a way, 2001 seems like
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  Speaker 3: a hundred years ago, no flip phones and you know, whatever.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, hold that thought, hold that thought, hold that thought.
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  Speaker 2: I know you're going to, I'll give you more time
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  Speaker 2: to articulate this. What I know is going to be
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  Speaker 2: some great wisdom.
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  Speaker 3: If I don't forget it.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot how 25 years ago, you know, do you
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  Speaker 2: remember how I, maybe you didn't communicate this way. We actually,
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  Speaker 2: they didn't have, we didn't have smartphones.
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  Speaker 3: Pagers.
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  Speaker 2: You know, but you know, we had pagers. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: We had pagers. I forgot that. Pagers went off all
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  Speaker 3: morning on 9-11. But you could text.
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  Speaker 2: Joey reminded me, Joey Hudson reminded me that we were
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  Speaker 2: actually texting back and forth conversations. I didn't, I thought
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  Speaker 2: pagers were just numbers.
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  Speaker 3: No, it had a display. The pager would go bzzz.
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  Speaker 3: And then what the pager display would have, depending on
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  Speaker 3: how hip your pager was, it would be a phone
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  Speaker 3: number that you would then call. But if you had
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  Speaker 3: more characters, and I guess as the pagers grew even
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  Speaker 3: more ever sophisticated, it would be like standing in Times
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  Speaker 3: Square watching the– The scroll go by of the news.
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  Speaker 3: You could get an entire message.
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  Speaker 2: It was a text. I mean, it'd be a text
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  Speaker 2: message on the pager. I didn't. Do you know something?
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  Speaker 2: I'm so ashamed to admit this. I have zero recollection
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  Speaker 2: of that at all. I have no memory of that whatsoever.
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  Speaker 2: I don't even remember I had a pager.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think I ever necessarily did. I remember my
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  Speaker 3: most primitive of phones, but they didn't text. It was
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  Speaker 3: just I had a Nokia flip phone and it was 2007.
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  Speaker 3: 2007 was the advent of smartphones.
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  Speaker 1: Whoa.
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  Speaker 2: So six years there. So go ahead. I didn't mean
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  Speaker 2: to distract you.
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  Speaker 3: That's a proper framing because it does seem like a
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  Speaker 3: lot of time has passed and it has. So if
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  Speaker 3: your premise is, is the Democrat Party so brutally bitter
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  Speaker 3: and violent that is it so filled with lunatics that
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  Speaker 3: we would have people, I mean, right now you got
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  Speaker 3: Hassan Piker out there saying after the haze of decades
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  Speaker 3: that we kind of deserved it in retrospect. Would we
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  Speaker 3: have people celebrating it in our own midst? A couple,
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  Speaker 3: a sliver. I would like to think, I'm being a
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  Speaker 3: little bit hyperbolic on the downside. I would like to
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  Speaker 3: think that the shared shock of it would swallow that
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  Speaker 3: instinct on the part of most. I will give you this,
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  Speaker 3: that probably within a week or two, you probably would
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  Speaker 3: have had people Talking about how it was our chickens
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  Speaker 3: come home to roost.
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  Speaker 2: I guarantee you we would. I guarantee you. And I
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  Speaker 2: admire your naivety.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just trying here. Because look.
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  Speaker 2: Look. Well, let's look at what we've seen in the
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  Speaker 2: last just few years alone.
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  Speaker 1: I know.
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  Speaker 2: I know. I mean, people protesting in support and in
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  Speaker 2: defense of Hamas, the terrorists who brutalized all those Jewish
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  Speaker 2: people in Israel on October 7th. Look at the GoFundMe
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  Speaker 2: for Luigi Mangione. Look at the support for Tyler Robinson
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  Speaker 2: who killed Charlie Kirk, the authorities believe. You look at
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  Speaker 2: all of that and I don't think there's any question
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  Speaker 2: there would be a movement to support the 9-11 hijackers
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  Speaker 2: by saying that we are an imperialist nation. We're a
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  Speaker 2: rotten country. And all those poor people were trying to
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  Speaker 2: do when they hijacked the planes and they slit the
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  Speaker 2: throats of flight attendants. and killed those pilots and flew
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  Speaker 2: those planes into the ground. All they wanted to do
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  Speaker 2: was be heard. Mark, they wanted to start a conversation.
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  Speaker 2: That's the way you start a conversation. I mean, 3,000
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  Speaker 2: people died, but at least, you know, we need to
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  Speaker 2: start talking a little bit about the great Satan and
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  Speaker 2: the genocide. And it will be a conversation. We've got
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  Speaker 2: to have that conversation. I just saw a clip, and
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  Speaker 2: I want to see if Yasmin and the team can
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  Speaker 2: turn it around. This is what I love about the podcast. Normally,
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  Speaker 2: I kind of give them instructions on our closed-circuit talkback.
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  Speaker 2: Where nobody can hear it. On the podcast, I can
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  Speaker 2: just come out and say it. Hey, Yasmin, I sent
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  Speaker 2: you guys the Sid Rosenberg clip from X. Can you
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  Speaker 2: turn that around for Mark and me? And we'll play
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  Speaker 2: that in a moment because it's a great conversation starter.
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  Speaker 2: It's a great issue.
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  Speaker 3: As they go wrangling that, Sid rings a bell. Who
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  Speaker 3: is he?
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  Speaker 2: So Sid is one of the local hosts in New
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  Speaker 2: York City on WABC radio, which is where I worked
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  Speaker 2: for a few years. Um, and, and, and he is
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  Speaker 2: a guy who is bombastic. He, he called Zoran Mamdani,
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  Speaker 2: I think you call him a cockroach, uh, like last year.
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  Speaker 2: And then he had to apologize, but then he didn't apologize.
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  Speaker 2: You look up a textbook definition of a New Yorker.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, the, the, the, the spray tan, the bald hair, uh,
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  Speaker 2: The name. The name.
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  Speaker 3: The accent. He's not from Alabama.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 2: And he's wonderful. He is so good. And he's so fiery, though.
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  Speaker 2: All righty then. And right now, his heart is broken.
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  Speaker 2: and I'll tell you why, and I want to get
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  Speaker 2: your take on it, because we talked a little bit
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  Speaker 2: on the Eminem experience at 735 on your show today.
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  Speaker 2: Zoran Mamdani showing up at the 9-11 memorial service.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Wait till you hear and see what Sid said about
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  Speaker 2: how Rudy Giuliani today– Broke his heart. He loves Rudy,
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  Speaker 2: respects and admires his leadership during 9-11, but his heart,
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  Speaker 2: he shook Mondani's hand.
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  Speaker 3: Of course he did. What are you supposed to do?
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  Speaker 3: Shoot him in the street?
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  Speaker 2: Sid said you're supposed to push his hand away and
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  Speaker 2: turn your back.
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  Speaker 3: How about no? How about not today? How about I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I get it. There are two things can be true
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  Speaker 3: at the same time. I get it. I get it.
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  Speaker 3: I get it. I get it. I get it. And
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  Speaker 3: I hate that. It's not my favorite thing that a
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  Speaker 3: flippant Muslim is the mayor of New York City. However,
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  Speaker 3: he is. And even as far as even with this
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  Speaker 3: petition drive, there was a petition drive from a started,
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  Speaker 3: I believe, by a man who lost his wife. in
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  Speaker 3: one of the towers, so please, my heart is so
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  Speaker 3: spilled out of the floor in connection with this guy.
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  Speaker 3: The problem is that a Muslim is the mayor of
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  Speaker 3: New York City. That is an unsolvable problem. If the
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  Speaker 3: question is... Should the mayor be there? The undeniable answer is,
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  Speaker 3: when I say yes, it is that there's no way
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  Speaker 3: to keep him away. There's no practical way and no
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  Speaker 3: expectation in any universe that he wasn't going to go.
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  Speaker 3: What's he going to do? Go, hey, guys, I just
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  Speaker 3: wanted to let you know I'm slinking away under pressure
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  Speaker 3: from these people in a sort of a partial admission
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  Speaker 3: that my religion kind of did this. Sorry, see you
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  Speaker 3: in a couple of days. That was never, ever going
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  Speaker 3: to happen again. And so just just no, I just
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  Speaker 3: just know.
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  Speaker 2: You know, you know, you know, it fascinates me. Trump
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  Speaker 2: was in he went to the Pentagon. He did not
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  Speaker 2: go to New York, which I thought was a very telling,
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  Speaker 2: pretty epic decision, because, you know, how what would that
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  Speaker 2: have looked like? Because don't forget this morning you had
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  Speaker 2: George W. Bush there. You had Obama was there. Biden
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  Speaker 2: was there. You had Bill Clinton. Wasn't J.D.
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  Speaker 1: There?
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  Speaker 3: Wasn't J.D.
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  Speaker 2: In New York? Bill Clinton was there and right next
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  Speaker 2: to J.D. Vance, right? But no Trump. I mean, look,
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  Speaker 2: I guarantee you as a lifelong New Yorker, he made
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  Speaker 2: a decision. I'm not going to go. I'm not going
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  Speaker 2: to be there with all those folks.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you know what the original story was? The original
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  Speaker 3: story was that Trump wasn't– or that he was either
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  Speaker 3: not invited or was invited– And then declined to go
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  Speaker 3: to New York because he wouldn't be able to make
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  Speaker 3: a speech, which was stupid. Nobody does any speech. Nobody
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  Speaker 3: did any speeches at this thing. So I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: That was kind of phony. And I don't know. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know how much he envisioned the notion of being
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  Speaker 3: in New York. It would seem kind of. Of course,
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  Speaker 3: he is in Washington. He was at the Pentagon. And
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  Speaker 3: that was great. And Pete Agseth was in Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 3: And that was great, too. It had a kind of
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  Speaker 3: a feeling of everybody being sort of where they needed
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  Speaker 3: to be. But you may well be right about that.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. Are you with me on the Mayor
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  Speaker 3: Mom Donnie thing? I mean, is there, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Not entirely.
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  Speaker 3: Because I sense that we would not, that there would
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  Speaker 3: be a Venn diagram here.
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  Speaker 2: Well, look at the parallel with Trump. Look, there's a
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  Speaker 2: parallel with Trump. Look, let's be blunt here. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: want him in New York today. And you know what?
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  Speaker 2: He didn't go. Those families didn't want Zoran Mamdani in
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  Speaker 2: New York today. But he went anyway. I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Maybe it's not exactly apples to apples.
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  Speaker 3: No, but I know what you mean, though. A, it's not,
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  Speaker 3: but B, I understand you.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I think there's a– look,
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  Speaker 2: he would have gotten tremendous flack if he didn't go,
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  Speaker 2: I guess. But I want to play for you this
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  Speaker 2: clip when we have it queued up because what Sid
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  Speaker 2: Rosenberg is arguing is, yeah, we talk a good game
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  Speaker 2: about the– threat of Islamist extremists. Oh, what? What?
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  Speaker 3: Finish that sentence.
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  Speaker 2: We talk a good game, but then when push comes
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  Speaker 2: to shove, we sit around and shake hands with them.
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  Speaker 5: For God's sake, what are you supposed to do is
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  Speaker 5: being serious? There is no one, there is no one
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  Speaker 5: more serious about the threat of radical Islam in America
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  Speaker 5: than and fighting the Islamists, and making sure we don't
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  Speaker 5: have Sharia in the streets of America, etc.
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  Speaker 3: than me. I mean, I had Congressman Keith Self on
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  Speaker 3: talking essentially about a mosque ban, because you just never
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  Speaker 3: know which one's going to be the next terror cell.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, not totally unreasonable, but doggone it, man.
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  Speaker 3: The notion that the, pardon me, ground zero of seriousness...
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  Speaker 3: about fighting Islam means that you got to throw shade
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  Speaker 3: to Mamdani. Just know that's not the battlefield. That's not
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  Speaker 3: the place. It's not the time. Make all the points
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  Speaker 3: you want to make and be as steadfast as you
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  Speaker 3: want to be. But I think that's very performative. And
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  Speaker 3: it's just kind of, and I understand, once again, for
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  Speaker 3: the 10th time, I understand it, but it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: a performative thing That leads everybody to say that what
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  Speaker 3: should have happened, Giuliani should have slapped him instead of
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  Speaker 3: shaking his hand. Just enough, enough, enough, enough.
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  Speaker 2: There's a perception, Mark, that we talk a good game,
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  Speaker 2: but then when the lights go out, you shake hands
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  Speaker 2: and you slap each other on the back and you
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  Speaker 2: go out and have a beer together. It gives you
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  Speaker 2: all the shades of the Uniparty. It gives you all
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  Speaker 2: the feelings of this club, this inner sanctum of people,
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  Speaker 2: even as diverse as Rudy Giuliani and Zoran Mamdani. And
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  Speaker 2: they have both said... horrible things about each other publicly.
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  Speaker 2: Rudy just cannot believe that this guy is the actual
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  Speaker 2: mayor of New York City, a position that Giuliani held
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  Speaker 2: with great distinction and honor for so many years. But
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  Speaker 2: I also understand your point as well. I'm probably 60-40
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  Speaker 2: understanding that Zoran's got to be there. But I guess
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  Speaker 2: the question is, it's one thing for the mayor to
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  Speaker 2: go to the 9-11 service. But does Giuliani have to
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  Speaker 2: shake his hand? Why do you have to shake his hand?
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  Speaker 3: I guess I'd need I guess I would need to
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  Speaker 3: know the logistics. Could he have could he have avoided it?
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  Speaker 3: Would it have been conspicuous in its avoidance? Would it
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  Speaker 3: have been like, oh, clearly a snub? I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: For the mayor then and the mayor now to shake
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  Speaker 3: hands on a day of remembrance. I'm just going to
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  Speaker 3: say that's a good thing in a vacuum, in a nutshell.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing takes place in a vacuum. Totally. Nothing takes place. Listen,
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  Speaker 3: Trump and Mom Donnie. We're nearly hugging a few months ago.
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  Speaker 3: You know, they found a way for some common space.
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  Speaker 2: Mom Donnie went to the White House and they had
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  Speaker 2: a very pleasant meeting in the Oval Office. So we'll
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  Speaker 2: play this. I want you to hear Sid Rosenberg here.
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  Speaker 2: We'll get it queued up here in just a bit,
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  Speaker 2: just a moment or two. Let me first tell you, though,
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  Speaker 2: about life, the sanctity of life. And this is what
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  Speaker 2: today is all about. Remembering those lives lost. It's also
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  Speaker 2: about saving lives right now with greater access to telehealth
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  Speaker 2: and abortion pills. And the fact that both of these
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• 18:29
  Speaker 3: For those that don't know, it's $ 15, 000, as Mike said,
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  Speaker 3: out $ 15, 000, hey, you're welcome to do that any day.
• 18:37
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  Speaker 2: Exactly. And when we went on and look, the podcast
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  Speaker 2: is making its mark. But of course, our talk shows
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  Speaker 3: Let's do it.
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  Speaker 2: Or Monday next week.
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: I don't know what day it is either.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm so out of sorts. But we're going
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• 19:18
  Speaker 2: If you'd like to, though, you can send us an
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• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Sid Rosenberg. Okay, long levee.
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: At long last, Sid.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: We got it. Here he is.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: This is Sid, again.
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: Host on WABC Radio in New York, doing a little
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: selfie video, walking away from one of the 9-11 memorial
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: services today in Lower Manhattan.
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: So I'm standing outside the New York Stock Exchange, not
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: very far from the Freedom Tower, the old World Trade Center.
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: I haven't done a video in a long time, but
• 21:35
  Speaker 6: I got to tell you, today I'm upset. I feel
• 21:38
  Speaker 6: like sometimes I bite these.
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: wars alone.
• 21:42
  Speaker 6: And what I'm talking about is radical Islam. I was
• 21:45
  Speaker 6: so happy to see Ted Cruz last night say something,
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Bobby Kennedy. I had President Trump on my program today
• 21:51
  Speaker 6: and I asked him straight out, are Republicans going to
• 21:55
  Speaker 6: make that a very, very serious topic come November?
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: They should.
• 21:59
  Speaker 6: We are being taken over. We've got a mayor in
• 22:02
  Speaker 6: this city that is at the very top of the list.
• 22:04
  Speaker 6: And what I saw this morning really upset me. Because
• 22:08
  Speaker 6: I love Rudy Giuliani, and I always loved him. And
• 22:11
  Speaker 6: I still love him. I don't get involved in all
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: the nonsense, the rigged election nonsense where people take shots
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: at Rudy.
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I don't do that.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: Greatest mayor ever, Mr.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: New York, I love him.
• 22:21
  Speaker 6: But with all his tough talk, to see Rudy shake hands...
• 22:25
  Speaker 6: with Mamdani this morning.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: You don't have to do that. Not obligated.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Slap the hand away. Turn around. Do something else.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Of all people, Rudy Giuliani, to shake the hand of
• 22:34
  Speaker 6: Mamdani down at that ceremony this morning, I have to say,
• 22:40
  Speaker 6: broke my heart. It comes down to this. What good
• 22:44
  Speaker 6: is all the talk if in person we're going to cave?
• 22:47
  Speaker 6: I'm not doing that.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: I got to run for office. I really do. Very disappointed.
• 22:52
  Speaker 6: Love Rudy, but what I saw today.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Got to say it. Broke my heart, he said at
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: the end. It got clipped off a little bit. Got
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: to say it. Broke my heart.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And I understand and I feel his views and I
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: get it. And watching him makes me want a corned
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: beef at the Carnegie Deli. He exudes New York. He's 100% right.
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: By the way, the Carnegie Deli is back. Have you heard?
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Where did it go? I wasn't aware that it went away.
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: Well, because you're such a Dallas guy. You know what?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: We went to the Carnegie Deli because you have to
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: probably 10, 15 years ago. And because you go, it's
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: the Carnegie Deli. But this will resonate with many. The
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: sandwich was so huge that it wouldn't even fit in
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: my mouth. It was it was like a bit. It
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: was like it was tasty. It was great. But it's
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: like it's it's it's It's a literal foot-thick pastrami. Not
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: that there's anything wrong with that. But it's like, okay,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: been there, done that. It was great. But where did
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: it go and when did it return? Well, it closed
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: years ago.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: And I think it closed– in fact, somebody check this
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: because I think it was more than 10 or 15
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: years ago. It closed a long time ago. But the
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: reason I had a special relationship with them– Carnegie Deli had,
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: if you remember, it kind of was a dingy place
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: with all the wooden bar stools and all that. I
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: loved it. Great place, great atmosphere. And they have celebrity
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: pictures on the walls.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: It's one of those like– it was like the poor
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: man's version of Sardi's where they had headshots of all
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: the local TV anchors. I was on there. Not once,
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: but two different places when I was at WABC. And
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: when you're on the wall, when you're a so-called VIP,
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: the Carnegie Deli treats you like a king. And by that,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: I mean this. Over the holidays, the line to get
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: into the Carnegie Deli wrapped around the block, okay? In wintertime, Christmastime,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: and it was cold. But I was on the wall,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: and I was a friend of the owners. And you
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: don't go, you don't stand in the line. You go
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: right in, have a table.
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: Fast, fast.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: Fast pass for Carnegie deli. Sandy was the great, and
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: he married the boss's daughter. Okay. So the, well, the boss,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the boss's daughter, daughter and Sandy, here it comes. He,
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Had a very contentious divorce.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: Oh, no.
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: And she burned it all down.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Who got custody of you?
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Well, nobody got custody of me. I was in the
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: wilderness because I didn't know her very well, but I
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: knew him. But it was a bad, ugly divorce. Well,
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: she went scorched earth. And in the process of the divorce,
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: they wound up... having to shut down the Carnegie Deli
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: because they had gas line violations. They went after them,
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: and it was all because she went nuts over the divorce,
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: as I understand it. Anyway, it shut down after nearly
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: 80 years. Mark, it shut down in December of 2016.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: That's when the famous Carnegie Deli went down. Well, they
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: are set to open a new location a few blocks away.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: It's coming back.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: But now I want to go. I'll just cut that
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: thing up into seven pieces and, you know, consume.
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: It over the weekend. Well, forget the pastrami sandwich. You
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: better get a piece of the cheesecake. There is no
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: cheesecake better than a Carnegie. Oh my Lord. That cheesecake
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: is out of this world. So anyway, Carnegie deli, New York.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: And that's, and that's, that's it. I mean, Sid is
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: a quintessential New York.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: And to tie a bow around this, I just hope
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: I'm making this clear. I think I am. So I'll
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: say it for a fifth and final time. I feel
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: his heart. I get it. And I'm not, I'm not
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: going to like rail against his attitude. But, but he, he, he,
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Keep your friends close and your enemies closer might apply
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: here in a way that this moment of graciousness may
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: be empowering. You achieve nothing by being a snotball to
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: Mamdani in public. That achieves absolutely nothing. It doesn't take
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: us one molecule farther in our vigilance patrol against the
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: advance of Islam. Let's be as serious as we totally
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: need to be about the Islamicization of New York, of Minnesota,
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: of Illinois, of Florida, where you live. Text right. Let's
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: do all those things. But I'm not going to rag
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: on that. I got 60 seconds on something real quick
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: about about the show you did today and the show
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I did today. Because in between when you're done and
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I'm done, I get to watch like your last hour.
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: You played that thing from KRLA from Los Angeles, the
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: Silent Night thing. Unbelievable. And I was just fresh off
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: my own broadcast experience broadcast. So I thought, what's the
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: best thing I can do? So I went and found
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: some musical interludes and some excerpts of the moment where
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: like Katie Couric and Matt Lauer realized something very wrong
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: is going on our live shot that we have at
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: the World Trade Center. I kind of sort of relive
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: that with people. And then, Mike, I just laid back
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: and took calls from people. I figured that would be useful.
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: I figured that would be good. I thought it would
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: be a great way to do that. I had no
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: way of knowing. And I don't know what kind of overlap.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: I hope it's a lot of people who are listening
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: and calling me on the radio as they do you
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: and people who watch this podcast. But if any of
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: you who are part of today's show are listening, I
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: am forever, and I mean forever, in your debt. Mike,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: I had calls from a young man. He was 19 years.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: had just joined the Marines. You ever hear somebody who
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: had 9-11 happen and said, it made me want to
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: join the military? This is somebody who just had. He
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: was 19 and had just joined the military and was
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: out doing basic training in San Diego when 9-11 happened.
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: A woman who was a sophomore at Texas A & M.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: So she was a college girl at the time and
• 28:29
  Speaker 3: absorbed it as a young adult. And now she is
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: a teacher, a teacher of history and does not shy
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: away from telling her kids what the cause of 9-11 was.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: There was another gentleman who was in an air traffic
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: control tower in a military installation in Oklahoma watching our
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: entire nation of skies shut down. There was a guy
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: who has worked for the FBI in Miami who was
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: instantly whisked off to New York to try to get
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: to the bottom of this. There was another guy who
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: was living on Long Island who found himself in a
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: work crew trudging through the debris of Ground Zero days later.
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: All I did was say, hey, call me, tell me
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: your story. And these were some of what I got.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: And it was one of my favorite. I've done a
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: lot of these shows. You've done a lot of these shows.
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Today was one I will never, ever forget. And I
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: had almost nothing to do with it. I just sat
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: here and listened and took these calls from these people
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: who live this memory in this great country. It is
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: just one of the 660ameanswer. com podcasts. And you can just
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: hear that on your own time because it was an
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: honor to be a part of it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I was thinking driving into work about how special it
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: is to get to be connected to an audience that
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: in many cases have been with us for 25 years.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: The morning of September 11th, as people know by now,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: I was in the Empire State Building along with the
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: guy working right now on this podcast, Eric Hansen, He
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: was with me 25 years ago, and we were on
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: the 18th floor of the Empire State Building. And we
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: would go on the air and pull on the curtain
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: back a little bit because my talk show airs in
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: different time zones all around the country. But I'm live
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: 9 a.m. to noon Eastern. 8 a.m. to 11 central
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: is when my three hours of live show goes out.
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: And sometimes the hours get kind of jumbled and they get,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: you know, because every hour is like what we call
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: a modular hour. But that's when I'm on the air
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: is 9 a.m. to noon eastern. So the first plane,
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: as we know, hit at 846 a.m. right before I
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: went on the air. And I was in my office
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: doing show prep. And the producer at the time, Ron Mitchell,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: came bursting into my office and said, Mike, something awful
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: has happened. It looks like a Cessna. accidentally hit one
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: of the Twin Towers. And I don't know if they
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: had a heart attack. Maybe it was a medical emergency. Anyway,
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: we got on the air, the Empire State Building being evacuated,
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: all that drama. We went out to Fifth Avenue. We
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: had to evacuate. We drove out to my home on
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: Long Island. And all of that was shared with with
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: an audience that was just turning up the radio. We
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: didn't have podcasts then. We didn't have Salem News Channel.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: There weren't any cameras. It was all radio. It was
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: all audio. It was all theater of the mind, if
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: you will. And we had to put on basically a
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: tape to get out of the building and get out
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: to my house in Long Island. Well, it hit me
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: this morning. there were people, many people who started listening
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: to us that day because they, they didn't want to
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: listen to country music or classical or whatever. They wanted
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: to listen to news talk. They wanted a format where
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: they could hear news in real time. And Mark, I
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: got calls. I had the same emotional feelings you're having
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: people who said, Mike, My kids grew up listening to you.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: I've spent the last... You think about it. It's a
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: quarter of a century. I've spent a quarter of a
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: century with the Mike Gallagher show. I started listening to
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: you the day that this happened, and I've never turned
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: it off. Some people just touched my heart by saying...
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: It was as awful as that day was. Finding you
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: was a great blessing in my life. And that's the
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: kind of connection. I mean, there are marriages that don't
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: last 25 years. You think about a connection that the
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: audience has. And look at you and the legacy host
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: that you are in North Texas. Same with you. You've
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: got people. And here you were. I mean, I might
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: have been kind of in the thick of it in
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: midtown Manhattan. You were out of the country and you
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: and Lisa couldn't even get back to the United States.
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: The country I'll give you 60 to 90 seconds on
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: this and then I have a question that I don't
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: think we've ever talked about about the nuts and bolts
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: of being in our industry in the days immediately following
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: 9-11 the phone rings there at the Royal Hideaway in
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: Playa del Carmen where Lisa and I were and you
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: watching TV no I think you might want to we
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: were told by a phone call that this was happening
• 32:59
  Speaker 3: so I fired up CNN International and watched it and
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: stayed riveted and watched it and cried all day and
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: couldn't get back. Couldn't get back to other family members.
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: Couldn't get back to my job. Couldn't get back to
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: my country that was under attack. So it's, it's, it
• 33:19
  Speaker 3: was painful. It was horrible. It was, it was weird.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: And yet by the, what am I going to do?
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: Are you going to sit in the hotel room and
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: cry all day? So on day two and day three,
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, excuse me, I think we snorkeled at one point.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, but it was it was so heavy and weird.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: And it's like, well, OK, it's going to be four
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: or five days before we can get out of here,
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: they told us. But here's the thing. We went to
• 33:41
  Speaker 3: American Airlines, but it was a charter of sorts. So
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: we we left DFW on what I guess was maybe
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: September 8th or 9th and picked up a bunch of
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: people in Houston and then off to the off to
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: Cancun and then to Playa del Carmen. And I think
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: a lot of us were staying in the same place.
• 33:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: And so we saw people. We saw people from the
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: plane and we just looked. We had this knowing exchange
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: of glances and we hugged and we talked and we
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: cried and talked about our respective families and our kids
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: and our this and our that. And bonded with them.
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: And then when it was finally time that we could
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: get on the plane and come back on what I
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: think was the 13th, 14th, I don't even know. We
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: got back on the plane with the same people because
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: it was the same. The return trip was pretty well
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: the same. Again, it was kind of a charter. And
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: we landed in Houston and let them off and then
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: came back to DFW. So here's the thing. You have
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: like the quintessential experience, not just in New York, but
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: in a skyscraper in New York. Everybody else listening right
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: now probably has another type of American experience at their
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: home or office in Texas or Florida or New York
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: or Utah or wherever. Mine is a very separated, disjointed,
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: disconnected experience. But there's something I'll never have. But I
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: would say something that all of you listening will not
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: have unless you were in some other country. And that
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: is when we got back on that plane.
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: And it was time to go wheels up from Cancun.
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: It's like, OK, here we go. And you prepare yourself emotionally.
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: We're going to we're returning to a country that is
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: forever changed. We're returning to a country that is at war.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: We're returning to a country that is under attack. So
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: you're in Cancun to Houston. You go over the Gulf
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: of Mexico.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Water, water, water, water, water, water.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: And the first time at whatever altitude, I mean, by
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: the time you get to the Texas coastline, you're pretty
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: well on not on final approach, but it. It's time
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: that you're no longer at 35,000 feet. When I saw
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: the American land beneath my window, it's like, it's like, honey, there,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: there it is. And you know, we're going to land
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: here in a minute. And then we landed, we did
• 35:46
  Speaker 3: the approach there and we, we, we have come home.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: And when the screech of those tires on the, on
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: the runway in Houston, as we had all returned to
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: our country, there, there was a, there was a burst
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: of applause.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: The entire plane just went up in cheers and applause.
• 36:09
  Speaker 3: It's like, hell yeah, we're back. We're ready to join
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the fight. And it was just the so-and-so. All of
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: you can have your American experiences, and I envy you
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: for them, but nobody will ever be able to take
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: away what I had by the weirdness of our slightly
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: separated experience, and I wouldn't give anything. I wouldn't give
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: anything for.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, beautiful story, beautiful moment, beautiful ministry. One of our
• 36:35
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• 36:37
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• 36:40
  Speaker 2: And as we talk about our travels and airplanes and
• 36:43
  Speaker 2: coming back home again, you and I stood in communities
• 36:46
  Speaker 2: where hunger, just abject poverty was all around us. We
• 36:50
  Speaker 2: watched kids line up for meals. For a lot of kids,
• 36:53
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• 36:55
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• 36:58
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• 37:17
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• 37:56
  Speaker 2: you back 25 years to the Empire State Building for
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: a moment? Please. Because people are so amazed at how...
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: I got texts today saying, man, 25 years later, you
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: haven't changed a bit, Gallagher. You sound exactly like you
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: did 25 years ago. This was... Almost to the minute,
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: 25 years ago, as we started, this is when we
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: started this show, at 9.06 a.m. Eastern, we knew something
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: terrible was going on, just a little, not too far
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: from where we were seated, at 350 Fifth Avenue, the
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Empire State Building in New York City. This is September 11th, 2001.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: An unbelievable tragedy has occurred today. And it is, I
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: am stunned at the video.
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: And this is one of those days where it's difficult
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: to have a radio show and have breaking news without
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: knowing exactly what's happening. A plane has crashed into the
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: World Trade Center in Manhattan, in New York City, in
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: the lower part of New York City.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: It is devastating.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: It looks like it might be a passenger plane. It
• 39:05
  Speaker 4: has crashed into the Twin Towers, the fabled Twin Towers
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: of New York City, one of New York City's most
• 39:15
  Speaker 4: famous landmarks. It looks like the entire upper part, I mean,
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: it's unbelievable what has happened there. It looks to me
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: like both of the towers have been damaged, and fire
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: is shooting out of the entire, it looks like the
• 39:31
  Speaker 4: top 20 stories. And this is all unfolding as we speak.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: Gosh, Mark, that was– and we didn't know what was
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: going on.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: I can't imagine. That is absolutely chilling. So you're hitting
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: the air at 9.06-ish, right?
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: Eastern time.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, 9.06.30. So it is all– I mean, and then as–
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: how many minutes– this is– I'm just fascinated by it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: It was crazy.
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: How many minutes was it before you had to bug
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: out of there?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: Well, that's the crazy part.
• 40:07
  Speaker 3: Did you finish the 9 o'clock hour?
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: No, I think we got out. When did we leave, Eric?
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: When did we get out? We were probably about 9 o'clock.
• 40:16
  Speaker 2: But the alarm was going off the whole hour, which
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: was weird because it went off after the first plane hit. Now, understand,
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: the second plane, United Airlines Flight 175, hit the South
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: Tower at 9.03 a.m. So by the time we went
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: on the air, both planes had already hit. At 8.46
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: was American Airlines Flight 11. 9.03 was United Airlines Flight 175.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: At 9.37 a.m. Eastern, American Airlines Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: At 9.59 a.m., the South Tower collapsed. And then at
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: 10.03 a.m. Eastern, United Airlines Flight 93 crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: thanks to the bravery of those passengers who they were,
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: they were headed to Washington, DC. Lord only knows if
• 41:06
  Speaker 2: that plane would have made it to the white house
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: or the Capitol building or wherever that was going to hit,
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: but they brought it down. Um, and then at 10
• 41:13
  Speaker 2: 28 AM Mark, the North tower collapsed. So it was
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: a timeline. It was all within the span of one
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: under two hours that all of that tragedy and all
• 41:25
  Speaker 2: of that sorrow and that devastation occurred. It's just, um,
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: But you know what I'm a little bit optimistic about?
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Doesn't it feel— we always worry that we're going to forget,
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: that we will lose sight of what we faced and
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: how we've over— It'll just kind of fade in the
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: rearview mirror. Doesn't it feel today like that isn't the case? Well, today— Well,
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: but it seems more than just today. You know what
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: I mean?
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's 25. How did we feel on anniversary number
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: 16 or 22? The big round numbers are always going
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: to get more attention. But you still may be right.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I hope you are. Yeah, I think so. I'd love
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: to believe that even though 25 years is a long time,
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: that we're never going to forget. Incidentally, somebody just put
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: a comment on a text line. Mike, it's so crazy.
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: It's crazy how you sound exactly the same as you
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: did 25 years ago. What am I supposed to sound like? Chipmunk?
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: What's different?
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: It's funny.
• 42:24
  Speaker 2: Do you sound the same?
• 42:25
  Speaker 3: I think I do. Well, 25 years ago, it's not
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: like we were 20. You know, 25 years ago, we
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: were in our 40s. So it's and yet there is
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: a weird but it is a New York example. You
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: ever hear some of the really old excerpts of old
• 42:40
  Speaker 3: Howard Stern shows where it's not that he sounds different.
• 42:44
  Speaker 3: It's just he's kind of doing a different, more kinetic pitch.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: Of course, that was back when I could actually listen
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: to Howard, that old crusty bastard.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: So it's high pitched. His voice was more high pitched then.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: And he was, like you said, real staccato.
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: It was a different approach, I think. Different delivery, I guess.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I don't think. No, I will tell you. How much
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: do you have old tape? Is there Mike Gallagher? 1979 tape.
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I have Mark Davis 1982 tape that no one will
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: ever hear because I just sound like I'm 14 and
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: no one should have ever let me into a radio station,
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: much less given me a show.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: That's wild. I've got a cassette tape of my first
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: show at WABC, which would have been in 96, not
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: that long ago. Hey, let's get out of here with
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: a little bit of weekend entertainment fare. Focus Features presenting
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: a great, great new movie called The Uprising.
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: I have heard about this.
• 43:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Andrew Garfield. This is like Robin Hood like you've
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: never seen Robin Hood. I don't know what that means
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: if he goes all. Uh-oh.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: He goes rogue.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: He's wild. Does he rob from the poor and give
• 43:57
  Speaker 2: to the rich? I mean, I don't know. No, it's
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: a great, great movie. We're reading a lot about it.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: All-star cast. Breathtaking visuals, visceral action. It's called The Uprising.
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: It's being described as a must-see cinematic, just epic. It
• 44:12
  Speaker 2: demands to be seen on the biggest screen possible. Try
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: to discover. Make sure you go to Dolby Cinema. And
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: now these days you can do it. The Uprising. And
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: it's from the director of Captain Phillips and Jason Bourne.
• 44:23
  Speaker 2: So you know it's got a great pedigree. It's rated R,
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: under 17, not admitted without a parent. Witness the rise
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: of Robin Hood only in theaters now playing. You don't
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: want to miss The Uprising. Again, just one man, the
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: symbol of a people fighting for freedom, an amazing story
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: of courage, sacrifice, and rebellion. It's called The Uprising. So
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: if you're looking for a nice escape for a couple
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: of hours this weekend, you might want to do that.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: And Mark, on that note, let me just end by
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: giving you a little word of advice. As we're talking,
• 44:51
  Speaker 2: a little levity on a somber day, a little lightheartedness.
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: I love you like a brother. As we're talking about
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: the ways we were grieving and mourning and absorbing 9-11,
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: those of us in New York, we were shell-shocked. We
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: were dumbfounded by it all. Maybe, maybe minimize the stories
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: of you and Lisa going snorkeling in Cancun in the aftermath.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: I got to tell you, there's a reason. There's a
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: reason I put that in there because it was so odd.
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: We looked at each other on like day two. Like,
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: what are we doing? What do we do? Shall we sob?
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: I know. into our hands for another entire, I just
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: had to get away from it. It's not like I
• 45:34
  Speaker 3: got a show I can do.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: Listen, people grieve, people grieve in different ways. You and
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Lisa go snorkeling, you know, I mean.
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: There was that. I've got, I've got something you're, you're
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: not going to believe this. You're, you're not going to
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: believe that how opportune this is. 9-11 is measured in
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: some songs about it, like Alan Jackson's Where Were You
• 45:52
  Speaker 3: When the World Stopped Turning.
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 45:54
  Speaker 3: Toby Keefe's Boot in Your Asshole, which is another title.
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: And also by movies. There was Oliver Stone's World Trade Center,
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: which was okay. Have you heard of United 93?
• 46:04
  Speaker 2: No.
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: Familiar with the film?
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: The movie?
• 46:08
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: Okay. There's nobody famous in it, except there are people
• 46:12
  Speaker 3: who are noteworthy. And today, 9-11, if you want to
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: go home and download this, everybody, just thank me later.
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: The film is called United 93. And it starts out
• 46:19
  Speaker 3: at such a slow, it's about 9.93. And so it
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: begins in Newark and everybody's just slowly getting on the plane. Hey,
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: how you doing? The pilots and the flight attendants are
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: talking to each other. And you see the very nervous
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: guys and you know what they have in mind. It's
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: like the sense of dread grips you from the absolute outset.
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: And that just takes forever to get to that point.
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: Todd Beamer, of course, is on that plane. The director,
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: who I'll mention in a moment. intentionally said, I'm not
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: going to put anybody famous in this because it's just
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: not the same if Kevin Costner is the pilot, you know,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: it's just not. And yet there are people in there,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: the guy who runs the FAA. when they realized we
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: got to shut America's skies down because this is happening
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: and United 93 is in the air, he and some
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: of the other people, some of the military folks, some
• 47:02
  Speaker 3: of the flight controllers, are the actual people from 9-11.
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: They're the actual people. So when the director came back
• 47:10
  Speaker 3: and said, what would you think? We're making this movie.
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: Would you like to play yourself? I'm sure some people
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: kind of went, no, I don't think so. Some people did.
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: It is a remarkable testament. I can't say enough about it.
• 47:21
  Speaker 3: It's United 93. And that director is Paul Greengrass, director
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: of The Uprising and The Bourne movie and Captain Phillips
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: that you just mentioned. Paul Greengrass is the director of
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: United 93. There you go. So just everybody do that.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: And it's just a remarkable experience. If you got two hours,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: you ought to do that.
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: I love the story. Fascinating to me. And a lot
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: of people don't know this even happened. James Woods, the actor,
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: was on a flight. I think weeks or months before
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: 9-11 happened and he saw Middle Eastern men doing a
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: dry run. A 9-11 dry run. Have you ever heard
• 47:59
  Speaker 2: that story, Mark?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: No, I haven't. How soon afterward did he tell that story?
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Well, I don't know because I don't remember it until
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: years after the fact. But you want to do a
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: deep dive. It's fascinating because James Woods, and he alerted people.
• 48:13
  Speaker 2: He was telling the authorities and anybody who would listen
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: to him, I think these guys are up to no good. Now,
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: he may not have connected the dots.
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, do we really know they
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: were doing a dry run?
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: Maybe not.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: In our memory, we saw two Muslim guys whispering to
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: each other. It might have been a falafel recipe.
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: But I do think he was trying to warn. I
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: do think he tried to alert that something was funny
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: about it. Something was suspicious. Who knows? We'll never know.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: What I do know is I love being with you,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: especially on a day like today.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Thank you.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: Have a great weekend. I'm glad you had a great show.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: We both did. We're really happy to be back in
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: the saddle. And I think we're both working at the
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: same time for a while, I hope.
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: Well, okay. Next week, yeah. After that.
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: Week after next, you're out again? Lord Almighty in heaven above.
• 49:01
  Speaker 4: I'll hear nothing from you.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: And all the orphans.
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Well, we'll see you when you... We'll definitely see you Monday.
• 49:08
  Speaker 3: God bless America. Never forget.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: Be good. God bless America. Love you, Mark.
• 49:12
  Speaker 3: Love you back.