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DIDDY “PARTY COCKTAIL?” COCAINE & HORSE TRANQ: MOM'S BOMBSHELL · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
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  Speaker 2: Did he party cocktail, cocaine and horse trenk that's horse tranquilizer.
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  Speaker 1: Did he actually feed this to his guests?
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  Speaker 2: This while Shawn Combs's mother drops a bombshell good evening.
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  Speaker 1: I'm mean, see Grace, this is Crime Stories. Thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being with us.
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  Speaker 3: The biggest secret in the entertainment industry. The wall of
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  Speaker 3: silence has now been broken.
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  Speaker 1: Victims are coming forward.
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  Speaker 3: We now represent one hundred and twenty individuals against Sean Diddycombs,
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  Speaker 3: as well as claims against many other individuals and entities.
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  Speaker 3: The names that we're going to name are names that
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  Speaker 3: will shock you.
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  Speaker 2: We understand that a lot of Hollywood celebrities are shaking
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  Speaker 2: in their boots because they know they are going to
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  Speaker 2: be named, not by the Feds, by the civil lawyer Buzzby.
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  Speaker 2: And remember this, the prosecutors are held to a certain
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  Speaker 2: ethical duty as prosecutors sivil. The civil arena is a
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  Speaker 2: whole another animal. There is nothing to stop Busby from
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  Speaker 2: naming celebs, taking names.
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  Speaker 1: And naming them out loud.
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  Speaker 2: So we're waiting for the other shoe to drop this
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  Speaker 2: as we learn that Diddi's party cocktail that's certainly putting
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  Speaker 2: perfume on the pig. Some people call it the rape cocktail,
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  Speaker 2: their words, not mine, includes cocaine and horse trenk.
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  Speaker 4: Listen several of the individuals, and when I say several,
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  Speaker 4: I mean many who did in fact seek medical treatment.
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  Speaker 3: We're drug testing and drugs were found in their system.
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  Speaker 3: We're drugs, drugs that you've probably never heard of. One
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  Speaker 3: in particular that continues to pop up is a drug
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  Speaker 3: called xilacy for shrink, which based on our research, is
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  Speaker 3: known as a horse.
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  Speaker 2: Trank, horse tranquilizer. If it knocks out a horse, what
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  Speaker 2: does it do to a lady? Say average way one
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  Speaker 2: oh five to one five? What does that do to
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  Speaker 2: a human being? You heard Tony Busby, the civil lawyer
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  Speaker 2: who is getting thousands and thousands of calls on a
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  Speaker 2: deity hotline, refer to xylazine known as trenk. It's a
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  Speaker 2: veterinary tranquilizer. It's found in illicit drugs, and this is
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  Speaker 2: what we've learned from.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking to experts.
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  Speaker 2: It slows breathing, heart rate, blood pressure to dangerously low levels.
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  Speaker 1: It's very hard to reverse.
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  Speaker 2: Overdose reversal meds like narcan do not reverse the effects
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  Speaker 2: of xylazine. In other words, for instance, Prince when he
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  Speaker 2: odeed on an opiate, possibly fentinel nar can, if he
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  Speaker 2: had had it would have saved his life. If you
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  Speaker 2: od on xylozine, there is not a drug reversal antidote.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me an all star panel to makes sense of
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  Speaker 2: what we know tonight. But first straight out to Alex
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  Speaker 2: West joining us investigative and entertainment reporter with the Mirror.
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  Speaker 1: Alex, thank you for being with.
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  Speaker 2: Us horse trunk and cocaine at a party and guest
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  Speaker 2: reportedly didn't know that they were being drugged with that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, we've heard that over and over again in all
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  Speaker 5: this not all, but at least a good part of
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  Speaker 5: the civil lawsuit stuff come forward so far. We don't
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  Speaker 5: yet know how many of the one and twenty that
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  Speaker 5: Busby is planning on filing.
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  Speaker 6: We'll involve those drugs.
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  Speaker 5: It's also worth noting that when did he was over
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  Speaker 5: us sit in the hotel room, allegedly there was a
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  Speaker 5: pink powder, an unidentified pink powder that was found in
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  Speaker 5: his hotel room.
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  Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Renown psycho analysts joining us out of LA author of
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  Speaker 2: deal breaker. You can see her now on pecot Bethany.
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  Speaker 2: I think twice before I even take a baby aster
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  Speaker 2: for Pete's sake.
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  Speaker 1: It's one thing if you take the drugs, but.
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  Speaker 2: Drugging someone else, especially without their knowledge, and using something
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  Speaker 2: as volatile as this drug xylazine I believe it's called.
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  Speaker 6: Well, keep in mind the.
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  Speaker 7: Xylazine because it's a horse tranquilizer causes amnesia, what we
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  Speaker 7: call antrolgrade amisia, meaning that the victim won't remember what
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  Speaker 7: happened while they are on that drug, and the cocaine
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  Speaker 7: keeps them active enough that they can participate in sex
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  Speaker 7: acts outside of their conscious awareness. So this is a
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  Speaker 7: very sinister thing to do to people. And then remember
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  Speaker 7: he was taping the victims the whole time. So who
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  Speaker 7: would do this a psychopath, associate, path, somebody who has
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  Speaker 7: no regard for others, somebody who's a sadist as we've
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  Speaker 7: been talking about that the infliction of cruelty makes him
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  Speaker 7: sexually aroused, that he enjoys doing that and putting them
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  Speaker 7: in humiliating positions. And then Nancy's stalking them after this
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  Speaker 7: because once he tapes them on the xylazine and the cocaine.
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  Speaker 7: It appears as if they're voluntarily participating in the sex
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  Speaker 7: acts so that he can use that video against them
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  Speaker 7: and stalk them for the rest of their lives.
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  Speaker 1: Eric Fantasy is joining me.
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  Speaker 2: Are now in trial lawyer, TV Legal analyst, partner at
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  Speaker 2: Varner Fattist Elite Legal, former felony prosecutor.
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  Speaker 1: Eric, thank you for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: We keep hearing about sex attacks on victims, but here
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  Speaker 2: this is a serious aggravated assault. We typically think under
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  Speaker 2: the law of aggravated assaults, which in MENI jurisdictions carry
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  Speaker 2: twenty to life behind bars, as shooting somebody with a
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  Speaker 2: gun or stabbing them they live. It's described as putting
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  Speaker 2: someone in fear of serious bodily harm, immediate fear. But
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  Speaker 2: in this case, it's not a knife, it's not a gun.
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  Speaker 2: It's horse trunk mixed with cocaine. That's the allegation. That's
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  Speaker 2: a whole another set of felony charges that if this
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  Speaker 2: has proven, could nail ditty.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 9: Now, I mean the allegations are pretty senisor here, and
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  Speaker 9: the difference is that they're allegend that it's sexual assault
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  Speaker 9: by co worship, so overcoming someone's will and that's where
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  Speaker 9: these drugs come into play. Allegedly, they allowed ditty to
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  Speaker 9: make sure that the victim could not consent, but also
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  Speaker 9: could not defend themselves, really didn't know exactly what was
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  Speaker 9: going on, but was present enough to participate in the
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  Speaker 9: alleged sex acts. And so yeah, that is the allegation here,
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  Speaker 9: and it's certainly problematic for doing.
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  Speaker 1: Joining me right now.
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  Speaker 2: Death investigator for forensics at Jacksonville State University, author of
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  Speaker 2: Blood Beneath My Feet and star of a hit series
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  Speaker 2: Body Bags with Joseph Scott Morgan. Just Scott, what is
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  Speaker 2: horse trying? I mean, look, if it knocks out a horse,
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  Speaker 2: what will it do to a person?
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  Speaker 8: Take them down to their knees? Nancy, Xylazine is specifically
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  Speaker 8: what they're referring to in this particular case, and so
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  Speaker 8: it's used. It's a non opiate related substance. So you're
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  Speaker 8: not talking about something necessarily like a sentinel here, like
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  Speaker 8: some kind of synthetic synthetic opiate. What we're talking about
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  Speaker 8: is something that is expressly meant to use on equines,
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  Speaker 8: which are horses, in order to sedate them for surgery.
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  Speaker 8: So yeah, it can be. And here's another thing, with zoli.
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  Speaker 8: It can in fact be mixed with fentanyl, which makes
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  Speaker 8: it particularly dangerous. And they're seeing this out on the
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  Speaker 8: streets now, So this is something that's been around for minutes,
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  Speaker 8: but it is something that certainly the DEA is aware of.
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  Speaker 2: Guys joining me is death investigator, forensic expert just gott
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  Speaker 2: Morgan now joining me. Cheryl McCollum joining us from the field,
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  Speaker 2: also forensic expert, host of a hit series Zone seven,
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  Speaker 2: and founder of.
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  Speaker 1: The Cold Case Research Institute. Cheryl, help me think this through.
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  Speaker 2: My immediate reaction is, you can't prove it to a
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  Speaker 2: reasonable doubt, beyond a reasonable doubt, so.
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  Speaker 1: Don't put it in the pot.
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  Speaker 2: You know how it ruins the case when you have
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  Speaker 2: one week link the week's sister in the case.
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  Speaker 1: You have to get rid of that, you have to
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  Speaker 1: cut it out.
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  Speaker 2: But is there a way to prove to prove it,
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  Speaker 2: not just rumor not just any into not what one
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  Speaker 2: thousand people say, It doesn't matter because if they don't
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  Speaker 2: know what the substance is clinically scientifically, Look, let me
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  Speaker 2: put it like this. Okay, when I try a coat case, Okay,
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  Speaker 2: we'd do a bus there'd be a drug lord, we'd
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  Speaker 2: find the false wall. The fake wall would find all
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  Speaker 2: the money and the drugs behind the wall. The dog
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  Speaker 2: would find it. I can't just say, hey, I found
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of white powder.
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  Speaker 1: Convict him.
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  Speaker 2: All the defense would have to do is say, you
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  Speaker 2: know what he hoards baby powder? You think can say anything,
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  Speaker 2: But if you can't prove what the substance was, you
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  Speaker 2: don't have a case. Did you hear what Joe Scott
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  Speaker 2: Morgan just said that at the raid on Diddy's home.
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  Speaker 1: What if that yielded horse trank? What can we do
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  Speaker 1: with that?
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  Speaker 10: Cheryl McCollum, There's four things you can weave together. One,
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  Speaker 10: some of these victims salt medical treatment, those medical records
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  Speaker 10: and the result of that blood work they can get.
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  Speaker 10: Got eyewitnesses at these parties, perhaps they saw it. Number Three,
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  Speaker 10: you've got the person that made the purchase. Keep in mind,
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  Speaker 10: did he didn't go out on the street and get
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  Speaker 10: cocaine and trunk? He didn't. And all these folks that
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  Speaker 10: are associated with him that are now under this microscope,
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  Speaker 10: they are going to learn. Whoever talks first gets the deal.
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  Speaker 10: Somebody may very well come forward and explain what went
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  Speaker 10: down on top of what was sees during these raids,
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  Speaker 10: So all four of those things can paint again.
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  Speaker 1: Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl, Cheryl.
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  Speaker 2: I can have fifty cops say I saw him sell
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  Speaker 2: a hit, but if it's not tested at the laft, Cheryl,
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  Speaker 2: you still don't have a case.
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  Speaker 1: Period. I hear what you're saying. Do you know he
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  Speaker 1: used it? Yes? Do I believe he used horse train convictims? Yes?
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  Speaker 2: Does Joe Scott Yes? Did they find it in his mansion?
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  Speaker 2: Maybe let's just pretend yes. I still can't prove what
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  Speaker 2: substance was administered to those partygoers unless they were tested
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  Speaker 2: at the hospital and it.
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  Speaker 1: Showed up crime stories with Nancy Grace, Just got Morgan
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  Speaker 1: joining me.
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  Speaker 2: I want to follow up, and I appreciate what you said, Cheryl,
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  Speaker 2: And yes, I would put it on my board proving guilt.
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  Speaker 2: But it's not enough to bring a horse trank case.
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  Speaker 2: It's just not enough against Diddy. We have to be realistic.
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  Speaker 2: We don't want to ruin the rest of the case. Again,
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  Speaker 2: Just got Morgan. I'm talking about horse trunk being used
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  Speaker 2: on these victims without their knowledge.
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  Speaker 1: What about this?
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  Speaker 2: A horse trank victim has stated and I'll only call
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  Speaker 2: her Jessica, it eats your skin away and you just
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  Speaker 2: have a hole and then it leaves a scar. I know,
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  Speaker 2: horse train can cause ulcers, can cause actually like holes
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  Speaker 2: in your skin.
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  Speaker 1: Why.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, look, my first cousin is a horse trainer.
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  Speaker 2: Horses are huge. How much do they weigh, Jackie? I
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  Speaker 2: mean hundreds and hundreds of pounds? You know about Google, right,
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  Speaker 2: what Liz oh, dear Lord in Heaven, two thousand pounds.
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  Speaker 2: If that can knock out a horse, what does it
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  Speaker 2: do to a person? So why would this trunk cause ulcers? Cause,
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  Speaker 2: as Jessica said, holes in her skin.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you I have.
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  Speaker 8: Not heard this before, but I have heard something similar
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  Speaker 8: to this, and I know that covering drug cases, you've
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  Speaker 8: encountered this with people that use injectables. If they skin pop,
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  Speaker 8: for instance, which means they don't go into a vein,
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  Speaker 8: they actually go into the subc fat and they start
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  Speaker 8: to inject. This way, you can have ulcerated areas that
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  Speaker 8: will appear. So was this drug being administered with a syringe?
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  Speaker 8: Because I got to tell you it doesn't sound like
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  Speaker 8: the normal course when you're trying to administer something that
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  Speaker 8: is the equivalent of it's serving the same function as
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  Speaker 8: a date breaking drug, so you would administer it orally.
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  Speaker 8: So is she saying that it burned a hole in
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  Speaker 8: her mouth. I've had cocaine overdoses before, when people quote
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  Speaker 8: with chronic cocaine problems that died and the septument the
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  Speaker 8: nose would ulcerate and you would have that kind of reaction,
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  Speaker 8: But that's over a protracted period of time. This almost
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  Speaker 8: sounds like if that's what she If we are to believe.
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  Speaker 1: The streame Michael Jackson and his nose falling apart.
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  Speaker 8: Well, no, I think that that. Maybe I can't speak
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  Speaker 8: to that, but I know for a fact I've done
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  Speaker 8: or participated in investigations and autop with individuals that had
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  Speaker 8: eroded septims as a result of what they were saying.
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  Speaker 2: This symptom is that cartilage in the middle of your nose, right.
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  Speaker 8: That's split your nostrils into yeah, and so you'll get
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  Speaker 8: that ulcerated area there. But many times, you know, because
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  Speaker 8: these drugs are cut with things, all right, you don't
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  Speaker 8: know what the agent is in there that they're cutting it.
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  Speaker 8: And the idea here is just so our friends understand,
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  Speaker 8: they try to extend the life of the drug that
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  Speaker 8: they have, so you don't know what the skin is
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  Speaker 8: coming in contact with. Nancy.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this is what I know, Joe Scott from the
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  Speaker 2: National Institute on Drug Abuse. Xylazin, which is horse trunk,
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  Speaker 2: which reportedly did he's feeding to his guests in order
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  Speaker 2: to sex assault them unbeknownst to them, is associated with
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  Speaker 2: skin wounds, open sorees, ulcers, and abscesses. Now, while his
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  Speaker 2: party victims are suffering potential skin wounds, open sores, and obsesses,
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  Speaker 2: he's not worried.
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  Speaker 1: He's relaxing with some mango people. Check it out with
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  Speaker 1: the back up.
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  Speaker 7: I ain't expect I don't want it.
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  Speaker 11: I wanted bet you know me, I allow myself to
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  Speaker 11: not have lingo.
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  Speaker 8: I don't know long way no better.
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Diddy for that INSTA.
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  Speaker 3: These people who know who they are should just come
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  Speaker 3: forward now. I would imagine as we speak here, there
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  Speaker 3: are a myriad of people who are very nervous. You
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  Speaker 3: can't hide skeletons in the closet forever. I would expect
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  Speaker 3: there are many people out there right now who are
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  Speaker 3: who are desperately searching your memories as they delete your
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  Speaker 3: texts and data.
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  Speaker 2: We are learning that his Tony Busby's hotline was besieged
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  Speaker 2: with twelve thousand calls and just twenty four hours after
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  Speaker 2: our last program, twelve thousand calls in twenty four hours,
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  Speaker 2: less than twenty four hours. I wonder if any of
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  Speaker 2: those calls were from Hollywood celebrities.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, if you were attending one of these parties, if
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  Speaker 4: you will, and you attended before, or you knew what
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  Speaker 4: was going to happen. That is, you knew that a
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  Speaker 4: particular drug was being used in drinks that was causing
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  Speaker 4: people to be coerced and taken advantage of, and you
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  Speaker 4: were there in the room, or you participated, or you
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  Speaker 4: watched it happen and didn't say anything, or you helped
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  Speaker 4: cover it up. In my view, you have a problem.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's to you Celebrits in Hollywood. That is Tony
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  Speaker 2: Busby the attorney speaking. And we were given that from
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  Speaker 2: our friend Harvey Levin at TMZ, Lynn Sawe joining me
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  Speaker 2: founder or director LYNZ Warriors Dedicated to Ending Sexual Exploitation.
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  Speaker 2: Lynn twelve thousand thousand calls in twenty four hours after
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  Speaker 2: our last program, Horse Trunk Cocaine rape cocktail dump in Land.
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  Speaker 6: I don't even know where to start with this, but
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  Speaker 6: bring back doctor Bethany right now because I need a
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  Speaker 6: shrink over this dirty ditty. First of all, let's focus
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  Speaker 6: on this xylazine. Anybody. Has anybody seen the images coming
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  Speaker 6: out of Kensington, Pennsylvania, because that is what traditionally media
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  Speaker 6: shows you. People just flat out in the streets, bend
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  Speaker 6: over from the waste, nobody immobilize, nobody moving.
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  Speaker 8: Now.
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  Speaker 6: I know this is a family program, Nancy. However, we
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  Speaker 6: are hearing it's injected also anally mixed with other drugs,
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  Speaker 6: rendering people they can't move, So let's talk about that.
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  Speaker 6: And yes, we work with law enforcement here at the Warriors,
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  Speaker 6: and they tell us this is the biggest thing going
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  Speaker 6: on dea also that they don't know what to do
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  Speaker 6: about this trenk. It makes your skin fall off. We
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  Speaker 6: have seen this over and over again, so this dirty
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  Speaker 6: diddy doing.
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  Speaker 1: This to people.
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  Speaker 6: But again, we have to stick with the facts. So
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  Speaker 6: we've got plenty of facts. We've got twelve thousand people
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  Speaker 6: that have come forward. We always start with that the
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  Speaker 6: Warriors believe the victim and then cut it.
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  Speaker 1: Down from there.
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  Speaker 6: But twelve thousand and last week we heard thirty to
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  Speaker 6: eighty five. And I also want to focus always on
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  Speaker 6: what we're reported to be miners at the time and
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  Speaker 6: men and boys. We are not putting the focus on
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  Speaker 6: that because we at the Warriors think this may just
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  Speaker 6: be a whole sex trafficking operation geared towards miners and men.
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  Speaker 6: That's what we think.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I don't see it.
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  Speaker 2: Alex O West joining me investigative an entertainment reporter with
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  Speaker 2: the Mirror.
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  Speaker 1: I hear what Linna is saying.
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  Speaker 2: At first, I did not accept that there were child victims,
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  Speaker 2: alleged child victims.
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  Speaker 1: But then when I saw one after.
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  Speaker 2: The next, after the next, after the next, and so
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  Speaker 2: on of allegations about particular child victims and how they
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  Speaker 2: were trying to break into the business and they get
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  Speaker 2: to know Combs and then they're assaulted, I mean, are
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  Speaker 2: they all lying? I find that very difficult to believe.
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  Speaker 2: I wonder was it the persona that he projected that
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  Speaker 2: makes you think he would not be interested in children?
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  Speaker 1: What about it, alex West?
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, I mean one of the things that he
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  Speaker 5: did do in terms of getting close to children, he
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  Speaker 5: was on Sesame Street, so things like that. You have
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  Speaker 5: to remember that he was a mentor to people. At
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  Speaker 5: no point did it seem like, you know, he would
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  Speaker 5: be nefarious towards children, which is why.
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  Speaker 6: You might be hesitant to believe it.
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  Speaker 5: But when you look at the numbers, there are allegedly
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  Speaker 5: twenty five miners within the one hundred and twenty that
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  Speaker 5: busby is a place to file and some of those
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  Speaker 5: are very particular stories. So there was a nine year
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  Speaker 5: old a part of these these allegations as well. So,
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: like you said, we start seeing like a pattern, We
• 20:10
  Speaker 5: start seeing these stories.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Over and over again.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: And whether or not they're true, I can't speak to.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: But we have seen that he was a mentor to
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: younger people, and that we do know. There's justin Bieber,
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: there's him peer in a sesame street. There's so many
• 20:22
  Speaker 5: times of him being around children.
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: Listen to this.
• 20:25
  Speaker 12: In both Adams and Cottam's interviews with the music mogul,
• 20:28
  Speaker 12: pr Reps kept a close eye on the interview and
• 20:30
  Speaker 12: always steered the conversations back to Comb's successful business ventures.
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: Condam says Combs sounded like a child, describing himself as
• 20:38
  Speaker 12: young and sexy despite being a fifty one year old
• 20:40
  Speaker 12: father of six. Colum says her profile centered around Combe's
• 20:44
  Speaker 12: rebrand to Love, which Cottam now calls a psychopath move
• 20:49
  Speaker 12: to get ahead of the allegations he knew were coming.
• 20:51
  Speaker 13: Reports are circulating that a video depicting sex sects between
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: Sean Didty Combs and a younger male A List celebrities
• 20:58
  Speaker 13: being shot to several Let's. Sources close to the A
• 21:01
  Speaker 13: listers say it's triggering, resurfacing disturbing memories for the star.
• 21:06
  Speaker 13: Those who have seen the video claim it clearly shows
• 21:09
  Speaker 13: both Combs and the A lister's faces, and it does
• 21:12
  Speaker 13: not appear the celebrity pictured with Combs realizes they are
• 21:15
  Speaker 13: being recorded.
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Wow, A celebrity, A lister, A young male claiming that
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the Didy indictments and all the media swirling around those
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: indictments is quote triggering.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: Him a young male.
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: This as Sean Combe's mother drops a bombshell, seemingly blaming
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the Feds for her son's allegations and the alleged victims,
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: blaming the Feds and the victims, referring to the indictment
• 21:57
  Speaker 2: as a so called lynching. But first back to the
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: young male A List celeb We keep hearing and seeing
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Justin Bieber's name and photo attached to Ditty.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: He is a husband and a new father.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sure he does not want to be attached to
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: Sean Puffy Combs.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Listen.
• 22:27
  Speaker 14: Justin Bieber's long relationship with Ditty is being examined under
• 22:30
  Speaker 14: a new light since the disturbing allegations against Sean Colmb's.
• 22:35
  Speaker 14: Friends close to Bieber say he's finally opening up about
• 22:39
  Speaker 14: his nightmare experience with the mogul and the private hell
• 22:42
  Speaker 14: it's caused him. The pop star says he doesn't want
• 22:45
  Speaker 14: anyone going through what he went through, joining the industry
• 22:49
  Speaker 14: at such a young age, claiming years of therapy and
• 22:52
  Speaker 14: leaning on faith to battle his demons.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: We have been told that Bieber and his wife have
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: become devout Christians. The last thing he needs is this
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: dredged up and thrown in his face.
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: And I want to be very clear.
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: To anyone suggesting that Bieber is somehow the culprit in
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: this scenario, I believe you are sorely mistaken. Bieber was
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: just a boy when he was thrown in the pot
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: with Combs to steal. Take a listen to what happened
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: with our friend Jimmy Kimmel Live.
• 23:29
  Speaker 11: I started to lamb Beginni for a day or two,
• 23:31
  Speaker 11: any access to the house, and he knows better than
• 23:34
  Speaker 11: be talking about the things that he does with Big
• 23:37
  Speaker 11: Brother Puff on national television.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Not funny, Okay, that's when Jimmy Kimmel live back to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: Alex West joining US investigative and entertainment reporter with the Mirror.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: I don't like seeing Bieber's picture and name bandied about
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: as if he has done something wrong.
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: Did you see him in that video. He's a little boy.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: He's just kind of sitting there smiling, And I don't
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: like the implication of he knows better than me talking
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: about things he does with Big Brother Puff on national TV.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: What was going on that this young boy can't talk about.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: I'm curious, Alex.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's all really been quite kept quiet, even before
• 24:22
  Speaker 5: these allegations came out. I mean, like you said, he
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: was told from the very beginning not to speak about it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 5: There's a video going around as well from when Bieber
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: was kind of given his custody was given over to Combs,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: but not formally, not legally, but he spent those twenty
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: four to forty eight hours with him, and then Justin
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: came out and he has songs where he says that
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: people saw him sick and no one really cared. He's
• 24:47
  Speaker 5: very protective of other especially young women in the industry.
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: Like Billie Eilish.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: We don't know what happened in those hours, but we
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: do know it's motivated him to be more protective of
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: other young people in the industry.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: I'll never forget Alex West having a brush with greatness.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: When I was doing Dancing with the Stars and Bieber
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: came one night, no one, nobody.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Could get close to him.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: He was totally flanked by a phalanx of security and
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: he was in the middle and I glanced over at him.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: He was just a little boy. Let's take a look
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: at what Alex is talking about.
• 25:28
  Speaker 6: Where were hanging out and what we're doing.
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: We can't really disclose, but it's definitely a fifteen year
• 25:37
  Speaker 11: old's dream and we're gonna go full buck ful crazy.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Going crazy. Really. That's from Bieber's YouTube channel.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Okay to you, Lynn Shaw, What does that mean a
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: fifteen year old's dream?
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: Well, I can only imagine, Nancy. But here's I have
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: a lot of questions. Where were his parents? Number one?
• 26:00
  Speaker 6: Were of the people around the entourage of this dirty ditty.
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: Where were Where was everybody to protect this little boy?
• 26:08
  Speaker 6: He's only thirty years old now, listen, I'm in the
• 26:11
  Speaker 6: middle of New York City. He used to continually just
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: sell out Madison Square Garden. He was it, and he
• 26:18
  Speaker 6: was preyed upon, he was brought in. But it's not
• 26:21
  Speaker 6: only you know. I don't like him being put in
• 26:23
  Speaker 6: the spotlight like this. We can't help it, right, it's
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: kind of this low hanging fruit and this is the
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: name being thrown about. But we hear stories of other
• 26:31
  Speaker 6: boys that were brought into Bad Boy Entertainment right up
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: the street from me, the old offices, and part of
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: their audition process was you have to perform oral sex.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: That's the reality. So where was everybody? And I really
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: want to put.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: The apses hold on land Shap.
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: We got to having Justin Baber's name in the same
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: sentence as oral sex with combs. Guys back off. We
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: keep saying we don't want him to dry Dan Well,
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: that's dragging him in. But I don't like it because
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: he clearly has not made a statement. He's just had
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: a new baby, he started a new life. And wouldn't
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you agree, Lynn Shaw that if he had been at
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: any of the parties, the free coughs. He was a
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: child himself, being at a party would only be victimizing him.
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm.
• 27:25
  Speaker 6: Talking about, Nancy. I didn't say he had oral sex.
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: I said we heard stories of other boys brought into
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: the offices. That was part of the audition process. So
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: I'm saying there were so many people involved in this
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: horrible behavior. But Justin Bieber was the face, the biggest star,
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: and nobody protected him at these parties, his parents. Where
• 27:47
  Speaker 6: was Justin Bieber's management, this scooter braun that's been running around,
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Do a little digging deeper on all of these characters
• 27:54
  Speaker 6: that made a lot of money off of Justin Bieber?
• 27:57
  Speaker 6: Where was everybody? Why aren't we hearing more about them?
• 27:59
  Speaker 6: The management team, the PR team, the parents, Okay, other
• 28:03
  Speaker 6: people at these parties.
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, hold on, Bethany Marshall, She's right.
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: I have a saying, screw you and the horse you
• 28:14
  Speaker 1: rode in on.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: I don't care about the management and the accountant and
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: the agent. To hand your child over, your child, your
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: boy too, Combs. Now, I know his dearest dream was
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: to break into the industry. I get that, Yes, but
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: handing him over to Colms for even a weekend.
• 28:40
  Speaker 7: Nancy, that's similar to pimping this little boy out. I mean,
• 28:45
  Speaker 7: Sean Puffy Combs confesses with every tape, every video, every
• 28:51
  Speaker 7: interview he gives, it's right there.
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: So obviously the mother. I think Justin was raised by
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: a single mother.
• 28:59
  Speaker 7: The mother is seeing these interviews too, isn't she wondering
• 29:04
  Speaker 7: what P Diddy is referring to a fifteen year old's
• 29:07
  Speaker 7: dream things we can even talk about here, Nancy? What
• 29:11
  Speaker 7: if that were your kids and you heard somebody talking
• 29:14
  Speaker 7: about them like that.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, okay, you know what, jail, but don't tempt me.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: It's so important. I want to say something very important.
• 29:24
  Speaker 7: Whoever this celebrity is, whether it's Justin Bieber or anybody else,
• 29:28
  Speaker 7: who's terrified of these tapes coming out, it needs to
• 29:31
  Speaker 7: be clear that these are not tapes of this celebrity
• 29:35
  Speaker 7: having sex with P Diddy. These are tapes of the
• 29:38
  Speaker 7: celebrity being raped, raped.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: By P Diddy.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I want to defend Justin Bieber's mother. Now, yes, I disagree.
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: I think it was wrong to have Bieber unsupervised with
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: Sean Combs. However, the mom was uneducated in the ways
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: of show business. When you have a big star come along,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: just like Jackson did. When you have a big star
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: come along, take your child under their wings, say I'm
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: going to make them a star.
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: Combs was a king.
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: Maker, and we hear tonight that celebrities and others, potential
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: witnesses and victims are still afraid of his power, even
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: behind bars. Before we come down on Bieber's mother, Yeah,
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: you may.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Not agree with it. Was it wrong?
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, we don't know her thinking. She's not the bad
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: guy in this scenario. The bad guy is whoever took
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: advantage of Bieber and exposed him to Frea coughs if
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that happened. But don't worry. Tony Busby is not going
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: to hold back. He is calling people by names and
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: outing them.
• 30:50
  Speaker 4: Listen, because it's in the best interests of the victim.
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: We attempt to resolve these matters without the filing of
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: a public lawsuit, and we have done that already. We've
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: done that, I would say, you know, with a handful
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: of individuals, many of which you've heard of before, and
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: we'll continue to do that. That's just a standard process
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: that every lawyer in the United States who handles these
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: types of cases uses because it's the right way to
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: do it.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Crime Stories with Nancy gray.
• 31:28
  Speaker 14: As the question of how many of Shancombe's friends knew
• 31:31
  Speaker 14: what was going on in the late hours of his parties.
• 31:34
  Speaker 14: An incident at a party nearly twenty years ago is resurfacing.
• 31:37
  Speaker 14: Denzel Washington and his wife Pauletta left a two thousand
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: and three Didty party after a shouting match with Combs.
• 31:44
  Speaker 14: It's unclear what started the rope, but it ended with
• 31:47
  Speaker 14: Washington screaming you don't respect anyone, before escorting his wife out.
• 31:52
  Speaker 14: Washington previously commented on Ditty's parties, get out half an
• 31:57
  Speaker 14: hour before the devil gets here.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Well, it looks like at le one celebrity, a lister
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: to sel Washington stood up to Ditty, But in the
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: last hours, Shawn Comes' mom drops a bombshell, seemingly blaming
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: the FEDS for the.
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: Indictment and the alleged victims.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Joining me is Brian Fitzgibbons, Director Operations USPA Nationwide Security,
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: leading a whole fleet of investigators at USPA Security dot Com.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons the last person that will ever give us
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: any evidence about Shawncombs is his mother. You ever tried
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: to get anything out of a mother I have? It
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: did not go well.
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: We're not going to get anything out of Ditty's mother.
• 32:44
  Speaker 15: We've seen this in numerous cases, interviewing family of the
• 32:50
  Speaker 15: persons suspective of committing a crime, and we're not going
• 32:53
  Speaker 15: to get anything from her.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: You ever tried to interview a defendant's mom.
• 32:56
  Speaker 15: Absolutely, You see this happen time and time again. When
• 33:01
  Speaker 15: the defendant's mother is there blaming the victim. You know
• 33:06
  Speaker 15: she's not going to say anything to help investigators. She's
• 33:10
  Speaker 15: going to only do things to cover up Diddy's actions.
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Rayvus Gibbons joining us USPA Nationwide Security. I had a
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: defendant's mother. They were always on the front row, refusing
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: to believe anything bad about the defendant, and she was
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: set to take the stand for the defendant. When I
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: cross examined her, I thought she was going to jump
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: on my back and ride me like a chicken around
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: the courtroom.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, but I.
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: Had to do what I had to do. She was
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: a witness. I had to cross her, and I showed
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: no mercy. Of course, I don't want to make somebody's
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: mother cry. But when I'm thinking about is it her
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: or the innocent victims? You have to make a choice, right,
• 33:48
  Speaker 2: So what's happening and how does that relate to this case?
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: Listen?
• 33:53
  Speaker 11: Mean it my mom call Mardulis. She's getting a drip
• 34:01
  Speaker 11: with me. She's what's uping?
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: Uh?
• 34:07
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I love you too.
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: Now she's calling me to strip club.
• 34:16
  Speaker 11: I don't care. Real she could touch the floor with
• 34:20
  Speaker 11: her palms, you know.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: Flat Cheryl McCollum joining me, Cold case research investigator, forensic expert.
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Is he doing an IVY drip with his mother? Looks
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: like it?
• 34:34
  Speaker 10: And Nancy, you know, I think some of those twelve
• 34:37
  Speaker 10: thousand people are gonna say he had things at the men,
• 34:41
  Speaker 10: like an IVY drip. We're going to see it over
• 34:44
  Speaker 10: and over these videos. The videos are going to be
• 34:47
  Speaker 10: a money tree here. And I just want to say
• 34:50
  Speaker 10: about the videos, this is an old mob tactic. How
• 34:55
  Speaker 10: do you command complete silence and loyalty? You implicate everybody
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: there in the crops, so these people know, Hey, if
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: he goes down, I go down.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: That's a really good point. I can tell you one
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: thing I would not be vc woo what go jump in?
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: Yeah? I gotta say one thing here about these ivy drips.
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: Who in the hell is administering the ivy drips? You're
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: telling me that P Diddy. P Diddy knows how to
• 35:24
  Speaker 8: start an IV on somebody. You've got people that are involved,
• 35:28
  Speaker 8: I think probably with at least baseline medical knowledge here.
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: And this goes back to these drugs being administered. How
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: do you get how do you get your hands on
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: these drugs? How do you know? Why? Why is it
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: that he would even have IV's in his home, couldn't
• 35:42
  Speaker 8: minister these drugs? And that makes us even more insidious here.
• 35:46
  Speaker 8: That you have groups of people, perhaps they're involved in
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: the helping professions, the healthcare profession that are facilitating this
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: activity just on his face is something that is so shocking, okaye.
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Coming from regarding the ivys rip, I'm talking about him
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: taking his mother to his trip club.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Now, let me remind everybody, I am not the church lady.
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: I don't care how many strip clubs you go to
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: and if your mother goes with you to a strip club,
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: that's not a felony, Okay. What I care about are
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: insinuations made by his mother. And yes, I'm talking about
• 36:24
  Speaker 2: you about the victims in this case.
• 36:28
  Speaker 13: Listen Diddy's mother, Jannis Combs, has broken her silence on
• 36:31
  Speaker 13: the allegations with a lengthy statement slamming the quote public
• 36:35
  Speaker 13: lynching of her son. While Comb's admits her son is
• 36:38
  Speaker 13: far from perfect and has been less than truthful when
• 36:40
  Speaker 13: it comes to the violent treatment of his ex girlfriend,
• 36:43
  Speaker 13: Combs claims Ditty is not guilty of the repulsive allegations
• 36:47
  Speaker 13: and the grave charges leveled against him. Jannis Combs calls
• 36:51
  Speaker 13: the numerous lawsuits against her son, money grabs and the
• 36:54
  Speaker 13: federal indictment are results of his legal team's poor handling
• 36:57
  Speaker 13: of Cassie Ventura's lawsuit. Sean Combs may soon find the
• 37:03
  Speaker 13: symbolic key to the city of Miami Beach won't open
• 37:07
  Speaker 13: any doors.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Why you think Sean Puffy Combs gets a flying fig
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: about the key to the city being taken back, reneged
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: that's the least to his worries joining me in All
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Star panel.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: You know this is very concerning.
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: That look, I don't like attacking anybody's little old mom
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: and the grandma, but uh uh n to Eric fattis
• 37:34
  Speaker 2: the last thing I want to hear is Shawn Come's
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: mother referring to this federal indictment as a public lynching
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: of her son. What about all the alleged victims that
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: go to a party, the ladies, the alleged children.
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: That go to a party, and these women wake up.
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: The next morning with their vagina and their anus aching
• 38:01
  Speaker 2: and hurting, and they don't remember what happened. And now
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: somehow he's the one getting lynched.
• 38:08
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 38:08
  Speaker 9: I mean, pretty strong language, of course from Dinny's mother.
• 38:10
  Speaker 9: She's trying to be a protective mother here, but I
• 38:13
  Speaker 9: think it loses sight of the gravity of some of
• 38:15
  Speaker 9: these allegations. And so we have the criminal case and
• 38:19
  Speaker 9: we also have the civil case.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: Diddy has these two.
• 38:21
  Speaker 9: Parallel legal actions that are set to really cripple his
• 38:25
  Speaker 9: entire empire and potentially put him behind bars for decades
• 38:29
  Speaker 9: and if not the.
• 38:29
  Speaker 8: Rest of his life.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: So his mom is trying to come to his defense.
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: I'm not sure it's the most artful way to do it.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's just get real about this, doctor Bethany, I
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: need this in a nutshell. She is blaming the Feds,
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: calling the indictment a public lynching of him, and she's
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: also claiming it's all because of Cassie Venturist lawsuit. Uh
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: huh No, she's saying that because the lawsuit was not
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: handled privately because it went public.
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: Hey, who's fault?
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Who was running down the hotel hallway and nothing but
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: a towel meeting the eighteen double l out of Cassie
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Ventura her son. So you don't let me pick it
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: out a grandma, Well, so be it. Bring it on,
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: Janis comms Nancy.
• 39:15
  Speaker 7: Let's reframe this entire discussion. This is not a mother
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: protecting her son. This is a mother who potentially acted
• 39:23
  Speaker 7: in concert with her son. We may find out that
• 39:26
  Speaker 7: she committed crimes too, that she may have been in
• 39:28
  Speaker 7: that room, if he took her to strip clubs. What's
• 39:32
  Speaker 7: to preclude him from bringing her into those scenes?
• 39:36
  Speaker 6: Those freakofs. Do you know how many.
• 39:38
  Speaker 7: Mother sons are put behind bars because they act out
• 39:42
  Speaker 7: crimes together?
• 39:44
  Speaker 6: And the one thing that we're also.
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: Mentioning here I do, and the last thing I want
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: to hear Lynn Shaw is his mother claiming it's all
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: the victim's fault and Cassie Venture's fault and his legal
• 39:59
  Speaker 2: team quote poor handling of the Venturia case, and it's the.
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: Fed's fault, and it's a victim's fault.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Wake up, mommy, get your head out of the sand
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: and your butt out of the air, look at what
• 40:13
  Speaker 2: is happening, and be quiet. Any words of wisdom, Inshaw?
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, my words of wisdom are why did Dirty Ditty's
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: mama even say anything? Why doesn't she just keep her
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: mouth shut and disappear? I was wondering a couple two
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: weeks ago. Where is she? She's very quiet. Okay, she's
• 40:29
  Speaker 6: hiding out now we hear from her. This is so
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: typical Nancy, always blaming the victim over and over again,
• 40:37
  Speaker 6: and the burden always falls on us to prove otherwise.
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: Why is this guy and his entourage and all these
• 40:43
  Speaker 6: other accomplices right now being given such slack we're even
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: hearing yesterday.
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: I can tell you this, mist Inshaw, and the light
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: most favorable to the mother in her misguided effort to
• 40:55
  Speaker 2: protect her son.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: All mothers would try to protect their child.
• 40:59
  Speaker 2: But the lawyer needs to speak to her and tell
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: her to quit blaming the victim and the Feds and
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: the legal team and everybody but her own son. Guys,
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: if you know or think you know anything regarding this case,
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: the case is still being assembled.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: Eight eight eight three seven three seven.
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: Eight eight eight repeat eight eight eight three seven three
• 41:27
  Speaker 2: seven eight eight eight. We stop and remember Deputy Sheriff
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Matthew Eugenie Yates, Clark County Sheriff's Ohio, shot and killed
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: in the line of duty, served Clark County fifteen years.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: He leaves behind a distraught wife, Tracy, children Anthony Andrew,
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: and a Kai American hero. Deputy Sheriff Matthew Eugene Yates.
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: End of watch
• 42:00
  Speaker 2: Betty Grace signing off goodbye friend.