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The Curse Of The Kennedys · Hocus Pocus Lack Of Focus

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  The focus, Focus. Lack of focus.
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  The very uneducational bypass that makes it.
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  No, no. Divergent Witchcraft.
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  Paranormal Activity, conspiracies, true crime and
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  general shall talk open one big cluster fuck of a podcast.
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  I'm just the and after a day and a half of having the shits, my
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  asshole is looking like a Kennedy's head.
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  I'm joined, as always, by our Hostess with the most chest who
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  has a lot in common with Marilyn Monroe.
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  She's known for being busty, promiscuous, and men who have
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  sex with her end up leaking from their heads.
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  It's Danny. Thomas.
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  They heard that the first, like the first time that you said
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  that. I thought you said bleeding from
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  their heads and I was like, that's not that accurate.
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  Are you accusing me of having an STI?
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  No, Daddy, I'm accusing you of having a grippy whippy.
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  A grippy whippy. Love that, love that.
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  Actually, I'm on. I'm currently on an antibiotic
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  for my skin so I have like a really bad breakout again and
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  it's the same thing that they use for gonorrhea.
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  So if I have gonorrhea, that'll go true?
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  So. Interesting.
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  What is today's podcast about that?
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  Gonorrhea going, going gonorrhea, the Kennedys, which
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  only enough we have. Momdani just got elected mayor
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  of New York and we love a sexy man in power and the Kennedys,
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  we're all very sexy men. So this episode is just going to
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  be about sexy men. And they're crazy sister.
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  There's one crazy sister. Like we covered her a little bit
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  in one of the episodes at one point.
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  I don't know if it ever made it to air.
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  Yes, it did. It was.
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  It was the asylum episode, eh? How come, Danny?
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  I have to remember all of this stuff that you tell me.
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  It was I. Get drunk when we were talking
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  about the asylums and she has eh.
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  She got a lobotomy at the age of 23 I believe. 23 so I will I'll
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  go in I'll cover her a little bit in this episode.
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  Just skim over it for those of you who didn't listen to that
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  one, because we have did go pretty in depth with it and but
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  let's just get into it so. Yeah, so just.
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  For a kind of a generalized, what is this going to be kind of
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  a thing is what is it about the Kennedys that would bring us to
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  hocus Pocus, lack of focus and not some political podcast like
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  the rest of history or something like that.
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  So they are a cursed family. There is.
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  They're involved in quite a lot of scandals throughout history
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  and it is said that they're cursed.
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  It's another kind of weird Von Eric type situation.
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  With. Kennedy.
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  And it's still they still the family continues to have
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  terrible look up until like today.
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  They've been involved in like numerous scandals, cover ups
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  like from literally the 1800s onwards.
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  They're just a very shady, dodgy family.
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  Yeah, so there's been like 100 and from what I can tell on you
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  is like it's 150 years of weird shit happening to this family.
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  Yeah. Now I'm not going to go that far
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  back because I didn't study that much, but I will give.
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  Kind of I can bullshit. My way through.
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  That I can bullshit my way through the great grandparents,
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  but let's let's not dwell on that.
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  I was going to start with the grandparents, PJ and then and I
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  was going to go straight into it.
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  But what we'll do first, I want to go into a little bit about
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  Rose because a lot of people, surprisingly that I talked to
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  just had no idea that this woman existed, and for a good reason.
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  They didn't want you to know that she existed, so.
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  Until you brought her up, I had no idea she existed at all.
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  Yeah. Like loads and loads of people,
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  like I've, I've brought, they're like, no, there was only ever
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  brothers. I was like, it wasn't.
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  So in 1941, when Rosemary was just 23 years old, her dad,
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  Joseph Kennedy Senior, forced her to get a lobotomy.
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  This is because Joseph Kennedy was grooming his sons for
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  careers in politics and the Rosemary problem, he so lovingly
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  called it, was a threat to the family.
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  So they locked her away in an institution for 20 years and
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  nobody visited her. Not once.
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  Now the Rosemary problem was that she liked to party.
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  Basically, she was a fun spirited young woman.
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  She like was she just loved going out and about.
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  They shipped her off to a bunch of different fucking boarding
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  schools and things like that, like convent schools.
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  And she was shagging rings around herself, getting drunk
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  like she was kind of like a, like a fashionista, like a bit
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  of like a, I would say like a Paris Hilton kind of figure of
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  her time, which is actually. Funny, just kind of sounds like
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  she was being a Kennedy really to me, because like everyone
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  else was like, we'll obviously we'll get through that the
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  history of all the Kennedys, but like even Joe himself was a
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  womanizer. Like, so like the the fact that
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  she was a just because it was like the double standard of the
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  fact that she's a girl, it's going to create a kind of a
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  blemish on the family name. I would say so, yeah.
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  Just literally because she was a woman and because the boys were
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  all destined for such great things.
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  And to go back then to like what I was saying with Paris Hilton,
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  she was also shipped off to one of those schools.
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  I don't know if you've seen. Well, you can't really call it a
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  school. It was like a fucking camp where
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  they were all like abused and beaten to kind of like set them
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  straight basically. But even in her documentaries,
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  if you haven't seen it, it's it's actually really, really
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  good. It's really worth the watch.
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  YouTube. Yeah, So she was taken in the
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  middle of the night out of her bed, like kidnapped, bundled
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  into a van and then shipped off to the school.
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  It was like somewhere like in, like the fucking wilderness in
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  Connecticut, I think. Yeah, it would have been because
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  she would. They were living in New York and
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  she was, yeah, she was bundled off into one of those schools
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  and, like, just had the ship beaten out of her.
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  She was just in a really bad way.
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  She was like abused. They'd like watch her shower
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  torture. She was like, I think molested a
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  few times by some of the quote UN quote counselors that they
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  had and. Paris Hilton, Yeah.
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  You go. But like her family are like
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  billionaires. They shipped her off.
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  It was her parents that shipped her off because she was given
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  the Hilton family a bad name because she was like a wild
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  child. Shipped her off to molestation
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  camp. Yeah, yeah.
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  What and she spoke so she you should again, it's in this watch
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  this documentary. It is like, like she obviously
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  is in the documentary, but like she even like meets up with some
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  of the survivors and stuff and like they've brought them to
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  court and everything since and she's spoken on it and like
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  helps other survivors and she's donated a lot of money to people
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  who have like been put through those camps.
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  She's got like various charities and stuff like humanitarian
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  charities because she's trying to get places like that shut
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  down. And they're very much still
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  operating and around today. Is this the is this anything to
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  do with Because there was the the documentary there a while
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  back about the kids who were sent to like they were bundled
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  off in the middle of the night into like these camps and they
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  were kind of just taken away from like their parents signed
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  off on it, but they hadn't a clue what they were saying the
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  kids up for like, yeah, that was kind of photo.
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  Is that the same thing that she went to only like a rich.
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  Yeah, pretty. Much and like same thing as kind
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  of Rose Kennedy is like they had sent her to a bunch of like
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  these strict schools, like where boarding schools and she'd just
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  break out with them and she was into her party and her drugs and
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  stuff and like they just were like, no, you're going to sell
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  you the good name. And like Nikki Hilton, her
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  sister, like she gets really emotional on on the episode
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  because she was remembers her like it's obviously traumatic.
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  These people just broke into their fucking home in the middle
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  of the night and just took her over bed and like she remembers
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  her screaming, being dragged down the hallway.
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  And then they did. I think that the dad caught
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  Conrad Hilton. I think the dad is, I don't know
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  what his name is, but the mom, Kathy Hilton, she's in bits like
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  on it because she they didn't know what they were sending her
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  off to. And she was saying like, her
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  relationship with her parents has obviously been fucking
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  strained since then, but she also accepts that.
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  No shit. They didn't, yeah, that they
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  didn't really know kind of like what they were sending her to.
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  But like, yeah, she, she had all that happen.
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  And because if you hear, like, actual Paris Hilton talk, like
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  that's not her voice. Like Paris Hilton is like a
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  character like that. She's made-up.
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  Oh, yeah, you can. You can hear the change in when
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  she's on like the TV show and when she's and.
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  She's like a high. When when like she was, she
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  wasn't a kind of like lawyer mode.
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  Yeah, she's highly intelligent. She was actually studying to be
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  a veterinarian. Yeah.
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  She's, she's really, really, really cool.
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  And like, yeah, she went through that for, I think they, she was
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  there for a year, a year or so, I think.
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  And like, you should watch the documentary.
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  Like it's fucking harrowing, like.
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  Because I watched 1 documentary on her.
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  Yeah, she had very been eating in the.
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  IT was, it was done in night mode, like so.
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  Yeah, yeah. Turns out like in in in the
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  daytime, her kids weren't as they any because it wasn't.
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  But that was a that was a good documentary.
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  I thought good, good ending, good ending.
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  Very happy ending to that one. Nice happy ending.
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  Yeah, the other one isn't quite as as nice, but yeah, no, she
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  like you should definitely watch it because it is like it goes
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  from like like that voice to like it cuts to her actually
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  talking. It was just like, whoa, well,
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  she's a fucking I. Sounded like Morgan Freeman.
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  Yeah, she, but she's like a such a like a kind person.
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  She gives so much to charity. She's really, really good with
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  her fans. Like she's made friends with her
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  fans from years ago that she's still friends with.
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  And they like FaceTime and she like, flies them out to LA and
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  takes them for dinner and stuff sometimes and like makes a point
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  of sending them stuff on their birthdays and Christmases and
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  stuff. And like, she just seems like a
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  really nice down to earth person.
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  But look, I mean locally. Let's get back to.
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  Rose. And not Harris.
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  Just I was just doing it. Doing that, but I.
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  You're edging me on Rose because the.
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  The thing about Rose Kennedy is the lobotomizer.
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  They didn't just send her off to this thing.
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  And that's and the thing about libotomies at that stage, yeah.
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  But like libotomies are kind of like this was just I think she
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  was like the 70th or 80th like lobotomy ever.
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  Knew at the time, yeah. So basically and.
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  They fucked her up. 1935 I believe they started testing the
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  lobotomy. So if you don't know what a
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  lobotomy is, it is basically an ice pick that goes in through
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  the inner corner of your eye and it is hammered into the brain.
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  It is supposed to basically stop all kind of feelings.
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  So it would say get rid of like psychosis, depression, madness,
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  things like that. By I mean the theory of it is to
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  cut off that part of your brain, but they go and.
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  They the amygdala. Is that what it is?
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  Yes, that's and. Like again, I don't know, I'm a
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  fucking, I'm a moron, but it's basically a very sharp SSRI
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  that's hammered into your. But they they knock it until
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  you're basically the patient. Once the patient starts to like
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  which and convulse and freak out, they're like, all right,
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  there we go. That's just enough.
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  So basically it's it's, it's just enough to have fixed you or
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  fucked you up and you don't really know until the patient
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  wakes up. But unfortunately for poor Rose,
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  she basically reverted back to a 2 year old child.
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  She could not talk. She was just like gibberish.
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  She was shit in her pants. She was just reliant on somebody
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  else for the rest of her life. And then obviously they couldn't
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  have like a, I'll just say they they couldn't have a retired in
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  the family in the public eye when everyone was trying to be
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  like a politician. So she was just shipped off to
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  an institute. And I think we mentioned that on
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  the the asylum episode as well, that they did that with a lot of
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  the royal family, like the incest babies that were clearly
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  coming out like like that point. Right.
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  So with the royal family, because, yeah, exactly with what
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  you're saying with the incest, like because they're kind of
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  like dipping, dipping in the same gene pool, like a lot of
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  these kids are coming out a little bit strange.
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  So a little bit. Messed up.
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  Yeah, so the shift off the kind of and the the special needs
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  kids kept the paedophiles but shipped off the special needs
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  kids who probably would have been harmless.
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  Yeah, yeah. It's really, really sad because
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  it's like it's if it worked like fucking whatever, fine.
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  And you hear they do like say a lot of a lot of things really
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  important means they do kind of like push the ones that worked,
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  but the ones that didn't, they're just hidden away like
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  exactly what Rose was like. It's not talked about because
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  they were still in use. I think the last ever lobotomy
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  was carried out in like the 70s so.
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  It was. Being done for a while, yeah,
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  for like a long time they kept up the bottom.
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  Me again, mostly in America and stuff like that.
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  Obviously just like I don't think it ever really like took
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  off over here, but. No, in Ireland, what we used to
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  do instead of the botomies, we would ship them off to a
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  laundry. So yeah, the Magdalene
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  Laundries, we could do a whole fucking episode on that as well.
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  That was a horrible, horrible time in history and they only
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  closed down late 90s as well. I think 1999.
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  There were, yeah, it would have been delayed.
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  I actually, I actually think that there might have still been
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  laundries gone in the early 2000s.
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  I would have to, I would have to Google that.
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  But I do think that that's that's a fact that I heard.
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  But that's because it that's another fucked up tale.
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  Or we're drifted away from the Kennedys here.
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  Don't get me stabbed by the Catholic Church.
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  Oh, so we're not we're on these. I mean, it still is in the same
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  vein because the Kennedys were Irish Catholic.
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  But anyway, so. Catholic.
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  So basically story of the Kennedys then it's been like
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  sensationalized over the years, like people were and still are
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  obsessed with them. I kind of, I never really got
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  it. Like I just like kind of like an
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  old money family that like just wiggle their way into politics,
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  but that's that fucking. No, no, no, Danny, no.
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  They're not old money. That's what's so fascinating
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  about them. In Irish.
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  Yeah, Catholic terms, it might be old money, but these?
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  These were new. Money, if ever there was new
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  money. They're all still in politics,
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  so and they come from. Oh yeah, yeah, now they are.
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  Yeah, that's what they. Mean now they're
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  institutionalized, but like, yeah, but when their great
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  grandmother came over on a coffin ship with not a pot to
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  piss in and kind of built, built up a little bit of kind of the
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  guy that came into Boston where there was a very anti which you
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  wouldn't believe it about Boston now because Boston is so Irish.
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  But there was real anti Irish sentiment in Boston at the time.
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  And that's why everybody became kind of cliquish.
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  So like in the 1850s, when like in the middle 1840s, eighteen
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  50s in the height of Irish immigration to America, their
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  great grandmother had landed married and then found herself
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  like in an Irish community. And the Irish, the Irish
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  Catholic community had to like bond together because the
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  Americans were like, get these fucking Pineo Munch and fucking
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  pasting white bastards out of here.
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  What are they doing here? It's they they they act.
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  They acted the same way to Irish people as you act to brown
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  people over there in England. And yeah, it's, it's kind of
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  it's fascinating the, the, the kind of where it went to because
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  like as we go on to like you probably have the notes on PJ
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  there where he, he became kind of really kind of popular in his
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  dead the, the local Irish like community.
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  And he was supposed to be very good for, you know, fighting,
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  fighting for Irish rights. He was kind of like the mayor of
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  the Irish community over there, like without being, you know,
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  elected. He was just kind of like really
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  high standing, like part of the, the Irish dyspora over there.
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  And he, he used that kind of leverage of known people and
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  getting on well with people that he started kind of buying up
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  properties and making good business decisions.
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  And that's how they started making their money.
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  So he kind of as, as he went on, he, he kind of instilled in Joe
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  Senior, who we'll see. He's kind of a patriarch of the,
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  the Kennedys. He instilled in him a kind of a.
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  You need to be you need to to make money by any means
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  necessary. You need to have a good standing
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  in the community. And yeah, you need to be very
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  good at networking, which is this is the key to the Kennedys
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  is like networking networking networking.
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  So like they built up money out of kind of nowhere from the late
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  1800s and what me they they kind of they, they came out of
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  nowhere and they shouldn't the, the success that the Kennedys
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  have shouldn't really have happened.
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  But for some reason, whatever way, whatever magic these guys
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  were able to work, they became very a very successful family.
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  Sorry, I just kind of took over there.
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  I know you've got all the. Yeah, so I have a few notes on
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  PJ, which I think you've already covered all of.
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  But basically, yeah, very popular in his in his community
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  amongst the Irish and stuff. But he did only have like a
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  little bit more money than everyone else.
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  Like he wasn't anything kind of like special from what you were
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  saying. Yeah, it's absolutely true.
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  What, like Joe being kind of just, you have to be charming,
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  you have to win these people around.
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  I'm dying. But yeah, basically he blonde
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  haired Irish guy with these very distinct round glasses, like
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  just really kind of like good looking.
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  Typical Kennedy. What you think of when you think
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  of the Kennedys, That's exactly what he looked like.
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  Just the real fucking. I think they all look smarmy.
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  Do you think they all look smarmy?
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  I wouldn't say smarmy, but like, I they definitely look like they
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  like they made their money from from dodgy deals.
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  You know what I mean? Like you get what I'm saying?
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  Like they don't look like they were born for a suit.
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  They look like the suits were built around like they, they,
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  I'm not saying they look uncomfortable in suits.
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  They all look like guys that look like lizard people, you
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  know? Yeah, Yeah.
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  I wouldn't say the Lizard, see, because like, we should be
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  fairly happy about the Kennedys because we're Irish and they are
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  like a real yeah. Begrudging people though, Like
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  yeah. We.
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  Kind of. Are.
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  Also we. Do we do like to?
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  Get behind the kind of momentum whenever you see like the Irish
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  lake. We got behind Obama because he
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  said he was from fucking awfully like so like there is we we we
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  have a filling stage in in OK and awfully the Barrack Obama
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  Plaza because Obama Obama said somewhere down others lane that
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  and there's someone from county awfully and we built him a
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  fucking and I tell you, if there's there's one place do you
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  want to stop on a motorway in Ireland, Barrack Obama Plaza is
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  a pretty good place to stop. You can get whatever you want
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  and Barrack Obama Obama Plaza. So we do get behind people who
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  are Irish or even nearly Irish. So like like.
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  In the fact that. In Wexford is something that is
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  crazy. Yeah.
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  Like it? Was Wexford Wexford?
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  Yeah, there's apparently from Wexford, New Ross, more
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  specifically where all the Nazis were were housed.
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  I know I fucking bring that up on every single episode, but
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  yeah, so that's. Where the blonde hair comes in
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  from the Kennedys. Then yeah.
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  And there's like a a monument like, so it's this big tall,
• 24:04
  like how we're looking thing that's been hit by lightning and
• 24:08
  it's really cool like this. They never repaired it.
• 24:10
  So it's like you can see the big like the big hole in it.
• 24:13
  And then there's like a JFK memorial like park.
• 24:19
  Well, they call it a National Park.
• 24:21
  It's only like fucking 4 acres or something.
• 24:24
  So I don't think it really as a National Park, but it's there's
• 24:29
  it's cool. I haven't been there in years,
• 24:30
  but we went there's like a a cool hedge maze and yeah, that's
• 24:34
  all I remember about it. But it's.
• 24:38
  There's a town in Ireland, right, called called
• 24:42
  Ballypourine. And Ronald Reagan, his ancestors
• 24:49
  come from this place. Bali Purine, right?
• 24:52
  Yeah, I know Ronald Reagan. He's he's.
• 24:54
  He's not the best. All right, but he also had
• 24:58
  claimed the Irish heritage, which is a big deal for like
• 25:02
  getting involved in America. There's a massive amount of
• 25:06
  Irish expats and Irish ancestry over there.
• 25:10
  So as we we're already getting into from the coffin ships from
• 25:14
  the, the the Irish famine, which wasn't a famine by the way, we
• 25:18
  can get into that as well. But Reagan, Reagan and claimed
• 25:26
  that he was from this place called Bali Boreen.
• 25:28
  Now in my building days, I was building a mansion for a guy
• 25:35
  down in Mitchell's town of Cork. And Bali Purine is this little
• 25:40
  town between Tipperary and Cork, right?
• 25:44
  And when I tell you that it is like, so this place was
• 25:51
  obviously very popular back when Reagan was depressed.
• 25:58
  So in the 80s is it the 80s would have been the 80s that
• 26:02
  Reagan? Would have been the 80s.
• 26:03
  Yeah, because he had his war on. Yeah, So, yeah, his war on
• 26:08
  drugs, his Nancy Reagan, wasn't that it?
• 26:10
  Her whole. Thing was like the.
• 26:12
  War on drugs. Yeah, yeah.
• 26:16
  Dancing in that global of 3000, apparently.
• 26:20
  Oh, really? Yeah, do you want to hear that,
• 26:23
  that rumor? No, that she was a.
• 26:28
  Deep Throat yeah, look, look, 3000 to the original Stroko is
• 26:33
  the is the rumor that goes around about old Nancy.
• 26:37
  It's so funny to me because like, I'm I'm saying that I'm
• 26:40
  talking about that and you're like, really?
• 26:42
  And then your profile picture. Is.
• 26:48
  Using like right now while I'm talking about Nancy Reagan being
• 26:52
  good at sucking Dick. We need to point out that my my
• 26:59
  picture on this is something that I would have taken during
• 27:04
  the pandemic. We're having really bad system
• 27:07
  issues with the system that we usually use to record and we're
• 27:11
  being forced on to zoom and just, he hasn't updated his
• 27:16
  picture since like and it's the scariest thing I've ever seen,
• 27:22
  but he can't have his camera on because he has connection
• 27:24
  issues. So it's just this.
• 27:29
  Picture Yeah, during the pandemic, like we were getting
• 27:33
  things got strange and that picture is because of the
• 27:37
  pandemic, let's just say. But we are five years on and I'm
• 27:41
  back to Zoom and but yeah, this, this town, Bali Parine, it's a
• 27:49
  little shit hole right now. I'm sure in the 80s it was
• 27:53
  probably, you know, the, the, the height, like it was very
• 27:57
  popular. And Reagan, I think came to
• 28:00
  visit and there was a Community Center there that was the Ronald
• 28:05
  Reagan Community Center. But the town right now looks
• 28:09
  like a ghost town because obviously, like, you know, it's
• 28:12
  in the West of Ireland. There's it's a small town, it's
• 28:14
  kind of in the middle of nowhere and there's nothing going on.
• 28:18
  There's no industry there. There's, there's, you know, the,
• 28:21
  the people that are living there are the the people whose kids
• 28:24
  all left the town. And when I say that, like
• 28:27
  there's buildings in that town that are just kind of like
• 28:29
  falling apart, it's it's in, it's in.
• 28:34
  I know I'm completely got off topic here, but this is the lack
• 28:39
  of politics. But it's yeah, but it's just
• 28:42
  crazy to wear to show that like once like, you know, I was going
• 28:46
  to say 20 years ago, shit, the 80s were 40 years ago and like
• 28:54
  40 years ago, that was obviously like at bustling town that was
• 28:59
  doing well and because of tourism, because of the American
• 29:04
  president was after being there, you know what I mean?
• 29:07
  So like now, just like obviously it's been that was, that was 10
• 29:13
  years ago. I, I saw like, or maybe more so
• 29:17
  like, you know, just 2530 years after the fact, the town has
• 29:22
  become like an absolute ghost town.
• 29:24
  So like, again, these presidents come and go, but they're not
• 29:29
  remembered. Not like the fucking Kennedys.
• 29:32
  No, that's true. That is very true.
• 29:35
  But like, yeah. And some of them are like the
• 29:38
  younger ones now, like the grandkids are fucking sexy.
• 29:41
  They're in their like, late 20s. Like some of them are.
• 29:44
  Some of their hot. They've gotten hot and they
• 29:47
  don't. Want to run politics?
• 29:48
  Dick, Dick, the Kennedy grandkids.
• 29:52
  Yeah, obvious Doctor Reagan's. Jesus, gotta get to see me
• 29:55
  somebody's pictures. Because I can imagine that there
• 29:58
  would be. Because.
• 29:59
  One of them and he's like. We talk about sexy on this
• 30:02
  podcast, but like it sexy truly decades is kind of you know,
• 30:10
  like because when people talk about Ted Bundy being sexy, like
• 30:13
  I look at it now or not, that's not a sexy man.
• 30:17
  Well, people are like, oh, sexy for the time.
• 30:20
  It wasn't, though. I don't even see how that would
• 30:23
  be sexy for the time. Like, I remember asking my mom
• 30:25
  about this, Like, so like, she would have been in her, like, in
• 30:28
  her 20s. Like when he was, like doing his
• 30:32
  thing, I was like, did you ever think he was attractive?
• 30:34
  And she was like, Jesus, no, he's rotten.
• 30:36
  But then I was like, yeah, but you, you, you shagged my dad at
• 30:39
  least five times. So like, you only have that good
• 30:42
  taste for me to kind of like, take her word on that.
• 30:45
  Like, my dad's rotten in the ground.
• 30:48
  Obviously he is right now. But like.
• 30:50
  Again. She's.
• 30:54
  Rot rot 10 is what I meant, not rotting.
• 30:59
  But. Is are you speaking objectively
• 31:02
  about your back? Are you like my dad's rotten?
• 31:04
  Because he's your back. No, no, objectively, my dad was
• 31:08
  a handsome dude. And like I, I get that.
• 31:11
  And like lots of people have said it over the years and
• 31:14
  stuff, I get it. I get it right.
• 31:16
  But I'm also just like, I don't think Ted Bundy.
• 31:21
  I think the serial killer they do think is hot as Dahmer.
• 31:26
  But now he's not threatening to me in the slightest.
• 31:29
  So that's probably why I'm thinking.
• 31:32
  Dahmer's attractive. Jammer was he, he had like a
• 31:36
  yeah, I think he was cute a. Little.
• 31:40
  Winky Geek. You can't tell me that he wasn't
• 31:44
  cute. I think he's cute like, but
• 31:47
  there's people in here like we, we, we covered it in the Ramirez
• 31:51
  episode that he had so many fucking groupies and women
• 31:54
  obsessed with him and he like, he like he was rotten, like he
• 31:59
  was absolutely gross and he had a little.
• 32:01
  Fat. Yeah, he was a stinky toothed,
• 32:04
  fucking dead like weird shark man.
• 32:08
  And he was. Notoriously like, dirty, like he
• 32:10
  didn't watch. He was notoriously like
• 32:13
  disgusting, grimy, fucking greasy man.
• 32:18
  And I'm like, and they're like, oh, we love a bad boy.
• 32:20
  It's like. But now that I think of it,
• 32:23
  Danielle, now did I think of this?
• 32:25
  Here we go. Why are we discussing what you
• 32:30
  think I is? The man I'm seeing now, which I
• 32:35
  told you about last night, we couldn't really talk about
• 32:37
  because we had system issues, is nothing like my usual type.
• 32:44
  First of all, he's Mexican. I met him at Home Depot waiting
• 32:47
  outside. Walking Jesus Christ.
• 32:51
  He loves that joke. It's fine.
• 32:54
  But yeah, he's he's he's, he's not like my usual type at all.
• 32:59
  Well, is this a hockey player? He's a hockey player, yeah.
• 33:04
  So he is your usual type, but. Has all of his own teeth though,
• 33:08
  and they're very straight and white.
• 33:11
  Do anything straight and white about might say, but tell me,
• 33:14
  tell me this and tell, tell me this a Mexican player.
• 33:20
  You said that it sounds like you've seen his Dick because.
• 33:24
  That's a very good. And a Mexican hockey player,
• 33:29
  this is the first time I'd see a Mexican heading towards the ice.
• 33:36
  That's that's some good satire right there.
• 33:39
  And so fucking what's Mexican? Mexican ice skaters can't be a.
• 33:51
  Ice. Skater A very an ice, an ice
• 33:54
  skater Mexican. What is like?
• 33:58
  I'm just trying to wrap my head around the fat, right?
• 34:01
  So he's from LA? Yeah.
• 34:04
  Like how come he's not playing like, you know, basketball or
• 34:10
  Domino's or whatever the the the cholos in LA play?
• 34:15
  What's how did he get onto how did he get onto an ice skating
• 34:21
  or hockey? I should say, like I keep saying
• 34:24
  it like he's horrible. And Dean.
• 34:27
  I know like played some glory style.
• 34:32
  Yeah, he's he's a hockey player. He is.
• 34:34
  He's a hockey player. He's a he's a sexy Mexican
• 34:37
  hockey player, I know. And he's, he's really.
• 34:42
  Nice. No, he doesn't.
• 34:45
  I want him Mexican. It's Movember.
• 34:47
  No porn, slash and plays ice hockey.
• 34:50
  He's the least stereotypical Mexican they've ever heard of.
• 34:54
  Right now. And he was like this, he like,
• 34:56
  he grew up like he was like a skater boy to skateboarder, one
• 34:59
  of those in California. And yeah, he lives in, he lives
• 35:05
  in Maine right now. But yeah, he's to share water.
• 35:11
  But yeah. He lives in Maine.
• 35:15
  He's in Maine. Yeah, he's obviously over there.
• 35:19
  Yeah, he'll be over here soon. Right, OK, I get you.
• 35:24
  He got, he got drafted. Interesting, but.
• 35:29
  Yeah, I was like, I'm not. I like told him because he
• 35:33
  listens to the podcast and he was just like, sorry, you're
• 35:36
  going to talk about me A. Podcast and as a kid, sorry, I'm
• 35:39
  sorry, Jose, sorry. Sorry.
• 35:41
  Wrong Domino's. I told him that I'm not gonna
• 35:45
  I'm not gonna say his real name is like as white as fuck, but
• 35:49
  I'm like, I'm just gonna refer to you as like a different
• 35:52
  Mexican name, like each time, like Juan and like Pablo.
• 35:59
  But we. Have Greg, I'm very sorry.
• 36:02
  We had like, we had that talk and it was just like, like, you
• 36:07
  know, like what's your middle name or whatever?
• 36:08
  And like, mine is, fuck, I hate my middle name.
• 36:10
  It's Maureen. It's like really embarrassing.
• 36:13
  But then like, because he's like an American from LA, he'd never
• 36:16
  heard that name before. So he was like, oh, it's not
• 36:18
  bad. And then I was like, what's
• 36:19
  yours? And he's like, no, you laugh at
• 36:21
  me. And I was like, no, I want to
• 36:22
  know. And he was like, what?
• 36:26
  Obviously burst out laughing. He's like, you're so fucking
• 36:29
  rude by. And I was like, no, it's going
• 36:31
  to tell you that you're one in a million.
• 36:35
  And then? He was like, it's not one.
• 36:38
  I was just saying not to fucking to fuck with you.
• 36:40
  He's like the least Mexican Mexican.
• 36:43
  But I'm I'm horribly, I'm horribly racist to him anyway.
• 36:47
  And he said something like, because he like, he knows a lot
• 36:54
  of like, fucking hockey players, like hit on me and stuff.
• 36:56
  And he was like, oh, what's like special about me?
• 36:58
  I was like, I don't know, I've never fucked a Mexican fella
• 36:59
  before. Just like bye.
• 37:05
  You should. Tell him about San Patricio's
• 37:11
  No, don't tell about Jesus Christ San.
• 37:15
  What are the guys called? So there's a bunch of Irish
• 37:18
  dudes that obviously they all came over.
• 37:23
  Here we go. Let's go for another little bit
• 37:25
  of history. So the the Irish guys who all
• 37:28
  landed in America when they were emigrating, obviously, and the
• 37:34
  Americans said here we're at war with Mexico, so get down there
• 37:41
  and fight the Mexicans. So this is where like Texas
• 37:44
  became a thing. And so so the Irish landed down
• 37:52
  to fight the Mexicans and they were like, hold on a minute,
• 37:58
  these sexy brown people are more like us, you know what I mean?
• 38:04
  Like, so they were like, these are all Catholic fucking, riding
• 38:09
  like rabbits, massive families fucking, you know, like, so now
• 38:16
  you've got a, a bunch of Irish people are like, you know what,
• 38:21
  let's jump. So they jumped over to the
• 38:23
  Mexicans and sat fighting the Americans.
• 38:26
  And if you see like, and you'll see a bunch of kind of famous
• 38:32
  Mexicans who kind of have a like a big Irish head and the ginger
• 38:39
  values. So like.
• 38:42
  I forget who. Who was there's a there's a big
• 38:45
  he's a basketball player, a football player, but he's one of
• 38:47
  the most famous fucking athletes in America right now.
• 38:51
  That's a Mexican from Mexico. Like not just like your guy,
• 38:55
  like second generation. This guy is like this
• 38:57
  generation, but he has a big ginger head on him and it's
• 39:02
  because he was from one of these Sam Patricios, who I'm
• 39:09
  definitely butchering that whatever Saint Patrick's
• 39:11
  Brigade. Anyways, So all the guys that
• 39:13
  jumped and they lived down to Mexico then and then just
• 39:18
  interbred with those big sexy ass Latinos, Latinas and yeah,
• 39:25
  breads bread, a bunch of half Irish, half Mexicans.
• 39:28
  So yeah. And.
• 39:30
  I'm about to make some. More that's.
• 39:34
  Jesus, no, you're about to spit more out into the fucking Jacks
• 39:37
  or oh. My God.
• 39:39
  Swallow it down or whatever. Is vulgar.
• 39:43
  He's taxpayer. Why are we talking about the
• 39:44
  Kennedys? Kennedys apparently, right?
• 39:47
  OK, so. You're going to get some Old El
• 39:53
  Paso into your tackle. Well, this is just payback for
• 40:02
  you making fun of me having a Slavic girlfriend.
• 40:04
  I don't make fun. I'm like, these are funny
• 40:06
  observations about Slavic women. These are also funny
• 40:13
  observations for me. Oh, OK, right.
• 40:21
  So I don't know where I'm going with this like.
• 40:26
  I'm like you have Jlo your your couples name would be like the
• 40:30
  manic and the Hispanic. No, I was going to say something
• 40:37
  really racist there, but I can't.
• 40:39
  I really can't. I I know.
• 40:43
  What I was going to, you know, he would love that, but I can't
• 40:49
  say that on on there. We would just, we would be.
• 40:51
  We cancelled so fast. OK, let's abandoned the Kennedy
• 40:55
  talk and just make more. More.
• 40:58
  Racial observation. Right.
• 41:00
  OK, so big John Kennedy, he did push himself like really hard.
• 41:08
  He ended up getting into Harvard, which was like pretty
• 41:11
  fucking impressive, like no easy feat.
• 41:14
  But because again, he was Irish Catholic, he was nobody had any
• 41:20
  time for him. Everyone kind of looked down on
• 41:22
  him. And even though he really did do
• 41:26
  all of the work to get there, like he didn't just like by his
• 41:32
  way in like, you know what I mean?
• 41:33
  Like like have daddy like do this doesn't work unless you
• 41:37
  watch the Righteous gemstones. Have you watched The Righteous
• 41:40
  Gemstones yet? No, but I know I get all
• 41:44
  references. I see your stories.
• 41:46
  Every time you. Off to tell, but yeah, so like
• 41:52
  he basically like he. So he had graduated everything
• 41:58
  that he wanted, but he still could not get a job because no
• 42:01
  one wanted to hire an Irish Catholic fully so, in my
• 42:04
  opinion. But again, Jack came through and
• 42:13
  then Joe became a State Bank examiner.
• 42:19
  So it wasn't the job that he imagined, but he and realized it
• 42:23
  was actually kind of the perfect job for him because when he was
• 42:26
  working at a State Bank, it meant that he could learn all of
• 42:29
  the like inner rules and workings of the banking
• 42:32
  industry. And this way he could make the
• 42:34
  rules kind of work for him. And at this point then he was
• 42:38
  kind of just done waiting for all these like wealthy Harvard
• 42:43
  fucking like frat Bros basically to invite him into the, like,
• 42:49
  the, like world class, The they call them upperclassmen, yeah,
• 42:53
  like the rich clubs, whatever. And like, no one like, yeah, so
• 43:00
  no one played by the rules back then, so why should he so.
• 43:04
  Well, what happened? I think what the important thing
• 43:08
  here is when he got that job as a state banking legislator or
• 43:17
  something along those lines, all these Dick heads from Harvard
• 43:22
  who kind of shown him they all became bankers.
• 43:26
  And yeah, but he wanted to become a banker.
• 43:31
  Well, he ended up getting a job where he was making rules for
• 43:34
  banking and he was kind of in charge of the bankers.
• 43:38
  So all these Wasps and fucking well to do Harvard guys now kind
• 43:44
  of relied on him. So he kind of was able to
• 43:47
  position himself so that he wanted to be one of them.
• 43:52
  They didn't want him to be one of them because he was a filthy
• 43:54
  Irish Catholic. But then he got positioned into
• 43:57
  a point where they needed to have him on site.
• 44:02
  So he was not all kind of positioned in an even better
• 44:06
  like he was. He was better off where he was
• 44:09
  than where he thought he should have been.
• 44:11
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 44:14
  It's fascinating stuff. It really is like, and this is
• 44:18
  all and I think a lot of this shit happened back then when you
• 44:22
  were a lot younger. Like this was all kind of like,
• 44:26
  I mean, at the age of 25, he was one of the youngest like bank
• 44:31
  presidents in America. So he essentially like had saved
• 44:39
  a bank from going under because he was just, he had that really
• 44:41
  good. I mean, granted it was his dad's
• 44:43
  bank, but like. Yeah, see, this is the this is
• 44:46
  the thing where we get to the kind of winks and nods.
• 44:49
  So like, he saved this bank from going under in his local
• 44:52
  community and everybody was like, yeah, Joe, he's our man.
• 44:58
  But he. Can't do it, No one will.
• 45:03
  Have great reference but his it was his father's bank and it now
• 45:11
  it all becomes questionable on whether this was all kind of
• 45:16
  performative and that the bank was never really in any danger.
• 45:22
  But was it just that they needed to make it look like he's this
• 45:29
  hero of the community again? Do you know what I mean?
• 45:31
  Like as you're talking about PJ telling George that you need the
• 45:34
  community to be on your site and lo and behold, they come up with
• 45:38
  this thing. It was his father's bank was
• 45:40
  going under and he saved it. And the community are all like,
• 45:43
  oh, thank God all of our loans and savings are safe now, thanks
• 45:47
  to Joe. Yeah.
• 45:49
  So basically he like he kind of had like local celebrity status
• 45:55
  after this. And then they like, but no one
• 46:01
  would treat him kind of like he was just working class trash
• 46:04
  anymore. And he basically was like,
• 46:08
  right, I'm getting all this money now.
• 46:10
  Everything is kind of going right for me.
• 46:11
  I need a wife. So he marries this woman called
• 46:15
  Rose, which is like, all right, here we go foreshadowing Rose
• 46:20
  Fitzgerald. So she was the daughter of
• 46:25
  Boston's mayor at the time, and they wanted to get married for
• 46:29
  years, but her dad kind of wouldn't allow it because he'd
• 46:32
  never thought that, like, Joe was good enough for her until he
• 46:35
  pulled this like, bank stunt. And he was like, fine, I guess
• 46:40
  you can get married like whatever.
• 46:44
  So Joe then marrying into her family kind of gave him like VIP
• 46:48
  access and just like basically he was able to kind of like
• 46:55
  we're in in the same circles as like the really important kind
• 46:58
  of families in America. And at this point then this is
• 47:03
  where Joe really kind of starts creating his empire.
• 47:07
  And he did this by using a little big business tactic
• 47:11
  called insider trading. Yeah.
• 47:14
  I I was. Dying to get into this insider
• 47:18
  trading thing that he gets. Into.
• 47:19
  Because this is. Love.
• 47:21
  It. Brilliant.
• 47:23
  So, so basically interior trading, so it's when you invest
• 47:29
  like a ton of money into a business because you heard like
• 47:32
  a secret tip like wink, wink might make you a lot of money.
• 47:36
  And it's, it's not like it wasn't completely illegal back
• 47:40
  then. So in 1919, Joe became a
• 47:44
  stockbroker, and because of a ton of insider trading
• 47:47
  information, he was able to make super profitable business moves
• 47:51
  that turned him into a fucking millionaire essentially
• 47:54
  overnight, right? So, for example, he'd gotten a
• 47:57
  tip to get into real estate during the Great Depression.
• 48:01
  So profit off the hurt and loss of others, basically.
• 48:05
  But he followed the tip and paid it off.
• 48:08
  Started doing insider trading. He was worth around $4 million
• 48:13
  when he started this, and then by the end of the Great
• 48:16
  Depression in 1939, he was worth over $180 million, which in
• 48:22
  today's money is like almost $4 billion.
• 48:27
  It's insane, obviously all the winks and nods that were
• 48:35
  obviously doing like all that, the insider trading and stuff,
• 48:38
  but it's he was told to pull his money out of his investments
• 48:43
  before the depression happened. So he got all his money out and
• 48:48
  then he was the only one left like, well, obviously all these
• 48:52
  guys who all were in the know, they had all their, their, their
• 48:57
  money pulled out when the stock market crashed and everybody
• 49:00
  lost their money. These guys all had their money
• 49:03
  and then just started buying real estate all over and, and LA
• 49:11
  basically it was, it was, I think it was, wasn't it
• 49:14
  Hollywood and. Yeah.
• 49:16
  Basically starting. To invest in like films and
• 49:21
  stuff like that then. Yeah, he became he became a film
• 49:23
  producer as well. Yeah, so in 1939, he was worth
• 49:27
  over 4 billion in today's money. So he uses this money than to
• 49:31
  build family homes on the waterfront of Cape Cod, which
• 49:35
  still exists today. It's called the Kennedy
• 49:38
  Compound. And he got this property
• 49:43
  specifically because it's sat across the water from all those
• 49:45
  Ivy League assholes who had basically shunned him from
• 49:49
  society. And so he was just basically
• 49:52
  like, yeah, fucking look at me. Look, I own this whole fucking
• 49:55
  place. Like, you're looking like,
• 49:57
  basically like The Great Gatsby, only like, it's jealousy and
• 50:01
  revenge. So his reputation as a fierce
• 50:05
  businessman even gave him access to the White House during the
• 50:09
  Great Depression. He used some of that windfall of
• 50:12
  cash to throw his support behind the presidential candidate at
• 50:15
  the time, FDR. So his donations and fundraisers were key to FDR
• 50:20
  getting the presidential crown. When he was elected president,
• 50:24
  he made sure to pay back Joe, but not money.
• 50:27
  Jode had enough money. He's like, I don't fucking need
• 50:29
  this. FDR gave Joe something that he
• 50:31
  wanted the most, which was political power.
• 50:34
  So he's given a position that essentially puts him in charge
• 50:38
  of the stock market. And one of the first orders of
• 50:42
  business Joe has is to make sure that no one can ever.
• 50:45
  Get a fortune. It's the best thing I've ever
• 50:49
  heard. It's so.
• 50:53
  Good. And so basically Joe has to make
• 50:57
  sure that no one can ever get a fortune like he did.
• 50:59
  So he actually helps to make insider trading illegal.
• 51:05
  It's so good. It's like him climbed up and.
• 51:11
  Then pull the ladder up behind them.
• 51:13
  Yeah, it was like no one else can catch me.
• 51:16
  Yeah, fuck you guys, I got here with this.
• 51:19
  But no one else gets to do it right?
• 51:21
  Just me. So around the same time then Joe
• 51:24
  and FDR, son, they create like a booze company right as
• 51:29
  prohibition is ending. Like fucking surprise, surprise.
• 51:32
  It's like, Oh my God, what? Like, you know, we didn't even
• 51:35
  think, oh, here's some fucking whiskey.
• 51:36
  Like literally just anything that he finger in all of the
• 51:40
  pies, like literally was our Joe.
• 51:42
  He just knew where to put his money, when to put that money
• 51:46
  there. He was a fucking genius when it
• 51:48
  came to money. So now that he had all of this
• 51:51
  money and this power and his political dreams were starting
• 51:53
  to come true, he decided to expand his portfolio.
• 51:57
  And this time it was in Hollywood maybe.
• 52:02
  So Joe started convincing investors to buy Hollywood
• 52:06
  studios that were in trouble. And he was also getting advice
• 52:10
  to giving advice to all these studios on how to stay open and
• 52:14
  to be profitable. So Joe became like a kind of
• 52:19
  almost like a financial advisor in Hollywood in kind of the
• 52:23
  early days. And then because he's fucking a
• 52:28
  scumbag, he set his sights on the most famous actress at that
• 52:31
  time, which was Gloria Swanson. Now, just like everyone in town,
• 52:36
  Gloria was kind of depending on advice from Joe to help with her
• 52:40
  production company. And then before, you know, the
• 52:42
  two of them, there were shagging all around the place.
• 52:46
  Joe uses power and influence to get Gloria's husband a job in
• 52:51
  Europe. He was like, yeah, you're up, go
• 52:52
  on, see you later, fucking fuck off.
• 52:55
  And then the two of them were just walking around like
• 52:57
  boyfriend and girlfriend. Like, the dude was gone.
• 52:59
  Like, nobody fucking knew. So Joe then would get
• 53:04
  immediately involved in Gloria's, like, movie career.
• 53:09
  So he would convince her to like use all of her money and go into
• 53:12
  debt to star in this really expensive, unique movie that no
• 53:16
  one in Hollywood would actually touch.
• 53:20
  But again, he was like the fucking money genius, wasn't he?
• 53:22
  So she was like, I'll do anything you say like no, she
• 53:25
  would have said it like I'll do anything you say, because that's
• 53:28
  how they all talked back then. Oh, Joe, of course, I'll take
• 53:32
  this acting job that you have to just said I love you.
• 53:37
  That's. Pretty good.
• 53:40
  They're just like everyone says that to me.
• 53:42
  So like they there was this old documentary that Elise and
• 53:46
  Mickey were watching and it's the old, the old timey narration
• 53:50
  voice you see. And first they they hoist up the
• 53:53
  crane by using and I was given the voice and they're just like,
• 53:55
  how do you do that? That's an old timey.
• 54:00
  I have people that would talk like this and be very astonished
• 54:02
  of a young white Irish lady with a brown Mexican ice skater who
• 54:09
  what is this? What a scoop.
• 54:12
  That's because the answer the sallow skin for Mexican God and
• 54:17
  the sad brown eyes of a cow. We've never heard the likes
• 54:21
  before, mixing vanilla and caramel and one ice cream bowl.
• 54:28
  This is it folks. This is the end.
• 54:31
  The white Irish. He's going to love, but this,
• 54:39
  this whole episode is about him. It's feeds his little Mexican
• 54:43
  ego. Yeah.
• 54:44
  So basically Gloria takes this movie and pretty fucking soon
• 54:50
  into production, they're $11 million over budget.
• 54:55
  And she's like, So what happened?
• 54:57
  Wow, $11 million over budget. And he's just like, frankly, my
• 55:00
  dear fucking Sia just leaves her.
• 55:06
  Yeah, he just gets up and goes. He just want no like that.
• 55:09
  That's literally how the story went.
• 55:10
  She was just like, you have to fucking help me.
• 55:12
  I don't know what the fuck to do.
• 55:13
  He gets up like this is this is exactly what happened.
• 55:17
  He looks her dad in her face, cranes around, grabs his coat,
• 55:22
  which is a kid walks out after ruining this woman's life.
• 55:25
  And then obviously because she was caught up in that whole,
• 55:27
  like, I don't know if you could call it like a scandal or
• 55:30
  whatever, but she was caught up in the whole thing and he just
• 55:34
  walked out. And her husband, Her husband
• 55:38
  apparently was. Yeah, he left her about.
• 55:41
  It and he wrote her a letter and he was like, you've been running
• 55:44
  all around town you big fucking whore with that Kennedy fella so
• 55:49
  fuck off. So she had nothing, no husband,
• 55:53
  no income. Her career was down the toilet
• 55:56
  and he was just like, I'm going back home to Rose and my nine
• 55:59
  children. See you later.
• 56:02
  Like fucking typical Irish cunt of a man like and she.
• 56:08
  Yeah. All right, fucking all right.
• 56:11
  Can we get back to? Making fun of Mexicans.
• 56:13
  Please what am I doing? I'm.
• 56:19
  Talking about my dad saw projection.
• 56:22
  Sorry. So Joe Joe.
• 56:28
  Then he ended up just going back home and he was like, Rose, I
• 56:32
  love it. See, And then this point the
• 56:35
  Kennedy kids, they're just fucking rich kids.
• 56:37
  They're just living life. They're playing sports,
• 56:39
  partying, like doing whatever. And then Joe did kind of let
• 56:43
  them have their fun. Like what He also like, he's
• 56:47
  like, this isn't a fucking daycare.
• 56:49
  Like so he had like expectations of them.
• 56:53
  They needed to marry the right people, prepare for public life.
• 56:57
  And then most importantly, know how to present themselves as
• 57:02
  Kennedys. So it would start at like, the
• 57:05
  family dinner table. So apparently the Kennedys, they
• 57:08
  weren't allowed, like small talk was not allowed.
• 57:13
  It would have. You would have to talk about
• 57:14
  religion or politics or like just meaningful things.
• 57:20
  And like, I can just imagine him turning and being like, what do
• 57:23
  you think of the state of the US government?
• 57:25
  And he's like, I don't know, I'm 6.
• 57:26
  Like just that's how like Howard, he was on them because
• 57:31
  apparently like that's how hard PJ was on him.
• 57:34
  And like he wanted to make sure everyone was like super
• 57:37
  successful And so basically. In.
• 57:41
  Saying all this not, not to coach off, just just to get in
• 57:46
  here. Like sometimes when we talk
• 57:48
  about like like our serial killer buddies and stuff like
• 57:54
  that, that like their parents, they didn't have overbearing
• 57:57
  parents and stuff like that. But oh was he was the the
• 58:03
  obviously the patriarch of the family and he was very strict on
• 58:11
  like what what not very strict, but like he was, he wanted a lot
• 58:16
  from these kids and he made sure they knew that he wanted a lot
• 58:20
  from these kids and there was high expectations of them both
• 58:24
  the kids adored him as well. Like this wasn't like he was.
• 58:29
  He wasn't. Abusive, I think it was roles.
• 58:32
  Roles was the disciplinarian. Yeah, it was pointed out on one
• 58:36
  of the, eh, one of the things I was looking up that when you
• 58:41
  look at any of the pictures of the parents and the kids, if you
• 58:47
  ever see like the, the pictures of the kids with joy, they're
• 58:52
  all swinging out of them. Like they adored, they were
• 58:56
  loving them. And I need pictures of roles and
• 58:58
  the kids, the kids are all kind of like a little bit away from
• 59:02
  our storm fest. So like, I think she was the
• 59:04
  disciplinarian. The father had like Joe Senior
• 59:08
  had very high expectations of what he wanted from the kids,
• 59:11
  but he wasn't a harsh man. He wasn't like, you know, he
• 59:14
  didn't beat the kids or anything like that.
• 59:16
  He was and I don't think. PJ was like that either, like I
• 59:20
  think he was. Very no, I, I, yes, I yeah.
• 59:23
  I don't think the kids had like what we would say is like a
• 59:28
  rough upbringing, but I think there was the if, if anything,
• 59:32
  it was kind of just there was a weight of expectation on these
• 59:35
  kids. So when we we obviously talk
• 59:37
  about roles there like, and how like she was a partier, but
• 59:43
  like, yeah, did they call that fairly, fairly swift?
• 59:47
  The boys? Yeah, of course the boys were.
• 59:49
  But I think I think Joe was guys, you can do what you want
• 59:55
  as long as you succeed. Yeah.
• 59:58
  And you need like. So there's the expectations
• 1:00:01
  like. I think it was drilled into all
• 1:00:04
  of these boys that Harvard was the goal and to be wealthy,
• 1:00:09
  successful and power was the goal.
• 1:00:15
  I think ultimate power was what Joe wanted for for his kids and
• 1:00:20
  from his kids. Yeah, and like it's, it's even
• 1:00:25
  like it was that way up until and like again, it's like it's a
• 1:00:28
  really sad thing. Like, so the mother rose like
• 1:00:31
  outlived sweater, outlived all of them.
• 1:00:34
  And then Joe, like poor Joe lived long enough to see like
• 1:00:39
  his three, three kids die, which is is really fucking sad.
• 1:00:46
  But yeah, I think like they did, they did feel a pressure to, I
• 1:00:51
  guess, like, make him proud. Not in the sense that they're
• 1:00:53
  just like, oh, no, geez, my dad's going to kill me.
• 1:00:56
  But it was just more like they wanted to because he was a good
• 1:00:59
  man and he was like, you know what I mean?
• 1:01:01
  I mean, maybe he wasn't a good man morally, but he was good to
• 1:01:04
  them and they wanted to make him proud.
• 1:01:07
  So moving on then a little bit from Joe.
• 1:01:11
  If there's one Kennedy that you've heard about the most,
• 1:01:14
  it's likely JFK. So John Fitzgerald Kennedy was
• 1:01:18
  born May 29th, 1917. He was a second eldest son and
• 1:01:24
  he had he had a really bad kind of childhood.
• 1:01:29
  He was one of those kids that was like constantly sick with
• 1:01:32
  like everything. And.
• 1:01:35
  Always something wrong. But Despite that, he as he grew
• 1:01:37
  up then he was like smart. He's really popular.
• 1:01:40
  He was athletic. He did go on to get into Harvard
• 1:01:45
  and then just like his dad. Then in 1940, he graduated with
• 1:01:50
  honors. But after graduating he went
• 1:01:53
  straight into the Navy. No, this man is a fucking.
• 1:01:58
  I didn't know this until I was actually researching for.
• 1:02:02
  This story. Insane like so?
• 1:02:05
  Cool. So.
• 1:02:07
  Cool like. Literally.
• 1:02:09
  Fucking badass. Badass.
• 1:02:11
  He's so fucking cool, right? And I like, I always like, I
• 1:02:14
  kind of, I always like John. Like I think there was always
• 1:02:17
  like, there's something charming about him, like inspire me.
• 1:02:21
  Yeah. But like, it was always kind of
• 1:02:23
  like, yeah, you know, whatever. And then like they had again, I
• 1:02:25
  know, just so you haven't watched The Crown and I keep
• 1:02:27
  pushing you to watch The Crown, but they have.
• 1:02:33
  Nonsense. I know, but they have Michael C
• 1:02:36
  Hall playing John in one episode and he was incredible.
• 1:02:43
  Like just fucking very much painted him out to be this like
• 1:02:47
  bumbling jock kind of character, which I think to an extent like
• 1:02:54
  he was. So that mostly the episode kind
• 1:02:56
  of like follows the fact that like like Queen Elizabeth is
• 1:03:01
  like jealous of Jackie O and whatever the fuck what like who
• 1:03:05
  knows how true that is? But anyway, it is it is well
• 1:03:07
  worth the watch because the cover is like they do visit the
• 1:03:10
  White House and he doesn't follow any of the protocol that
• 1:03:15
  you're supposed to. So when you're when I don't know
• 1:03:17
  if it's the same now, but back in that time I would have been
• 1:03:21
  the 60s. When you're meeting royalty,
• 1:03:25
  there's like a very they brief you.
• 1:03:27
  So there's a very specific like curtsy that you have to do.
• 1:03:30
  You can't call her like a certain.
• 1:03:32
  You have to call her a certain. I don't know what it is.
• 1:03:34
  But anyway, he just didn't listen.
• 1:03:38
  Like he listened, but then he just come pick all completely
• 1:03:41
  went out of his head when he was meeting her and he was just
• 1:03:44
  like, oh, image the like just shook her hand and she was just
• 1:03:48
  kind of like, OK, like didn't say anything.
• 1:03:50
  And then apparently like Jackie was like, so embarrassed by it.
• 1:03:53
  And yeah, but it's like a it's a whole thing.
• 1:03:56
  I just think he's really funny. I just think he's.
• 1:03:57
  Just kind of. Yeah.
• 1:03:59
  Well, he's he's a fucking he's a.
• 1:04:03
  First of all, the most powerful man in the world and he's of
• 1:04:07
  Irish descent. If the Queen had been even came
• 1:04:10
  over to the fucking White House and I was the president.
• 1:04:14
  I'd be like you. Bowed down to me.
• 1:04:15
  You fucking how'd? You get now, you pretty cunt.
• 1:04:20
  Sausage fingers. If sausage fingers came to my
• 1:04:22
  house and expected me fucking and expected me to courtesy to
• 1:04:26
  him, he can fuck off himself. We all shake down the one hole
• 1:04:29
  in this house. Yeah, fucking Protestant
• 1:04:31
  bastard. Yeah, dirty rotten fucking all.
• 1:04:34
  Right. Yes, OK.
• 1:04:40
  Sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry.
• 1:04:43
  No, I agree with you. I agree.
• 1:04:45
  With you to anybody who's who is.
• 1:04:47
  Listening to this, which is is nobody, there's one Mexican man
• 1:04:51
  listening to this with a tear rolling down his fucking cheek.
• 1:04:53
  But if there is anyone out there listening to this and they hear
• 1:04:57
  me getting unhinged about the, eh, English royal family, just
• 1:05:06
  know, yeah, these are horrible, horrible people.
• 1:05:11
  Because. They're.
• 1:05:12
  Basically. They're.
• 1:05:14
  Yes. All of the crimes that the Nazis
• 1:05:18
  have committed, the English have done them and they have been
• 1:05:20
  doing them around the world for fucking years and years and
• 1:05:23
  years and years. But it's.
• 1:05:23
  Just plus these are kind of Nazis anyways because they're
• 1:05:26
  all German. Like let's, let's call a
• 1:05:28
  fucking. German fucking Austrian, the
• 1:05:31
  Greek they all like Philip was German Prince Philip and then
• 1:05:36
  she married him Greeks and they were first cousins he.
• 1:05:38
  Was a Greek, he was. He grew up in German.
• 1:05:40
  Yeah, but he of German descent. Yeah.
• 1:05:43
  And then, yeah, they're first cousins.
• 1:05:46
  The king that I told you about that you didn't believe me
• 1:05:48
  about, that was the king and then advocated to go marry that
• 1:05:51
  fucking prostitute Wallace Simpson.
• 1:05:53
  And then she was shagging s s soldiers at the time, and then
• 1:05:56
  he got close with fucking. Anyway, we'll do a whole episode
• 1:05:59
  on that fucking Hitler fucking. Castle Hillbillies, that's all.
• 1:06:03
  Yeah, once you Castle Hillbillies.
• 1:06:05
  So anyway, so this story is fucking cool right?
• 1:06:11
  So after graduating and John went on to serve in World War 2
• 1:06:15
  and in August of 1943 he was captain of a patrol boat that
• 1:06:20
  was intercepting Japanese warships.
• 1:06:23
  At 2:00 AM one night while everyone else was sleeping, he
• 1:06:26
  noticed another boat like coming towards them.
• 1:06:29
  At first he thought it was another American patrol boat,
• 1:06:32
  but pretty soon he realized it was a massive Japanese destroyer
• 1:06:35
  coming straight at them at almost 50 miles an hour.
• 1:06:38
  And he's like, but before he could do anything or wake
• 1:06:41
  anything, wake anybody up, that Japanese destroyer sliced the
• 1:06:47
  ship that him and his crew were on in half.
• 1:06:50
  Just. Split this fucking boat in half,
• 1:06:53
  right? And John and their surviving
• 1:06:57
  soldiers, I think there was like 11 survivors on that whole
• 1:07:01
  fucking boat and they were just holding on for dear life to like
• 1:07:05
  the wreckage and floating in the fucking middle of the ocean.
• 1:07:08
  Now here's where everything might have ended for John and
• 1:07:13
  the other survivors, but John just turns into a fucking
• 1:07:17
  dolphin. Dolphin.
• 1:07:19
  Like. He's a dolphin.
• 1:07:21
  That's that's. You know how many times I've
• 1:07:23
  heard him? Described as a dolphin in this
• 1:07:26
  whole fucking thing. He's so slipping.
• 1:07:31
  What's that movie where it's like, it's some, it's some Judd
• 1:07:34
  Apatow movie, some dumb movie where it's like the guy and he's
• 1:07:38
  like Flipper, but he's like not like.
• 1:07:42
  Are you sure it's not an Adam Sandler movie?
• 1:07:44
  51st dates and yeah. That's what it is.
• 1:07:47
  That's what it is. Rob Schneider.
• 1:07:49
  Yes, yeah, that's what it is. Sorry, I just always mix that
• 1:07:52
  universe up, but yeah. Also in The SpongeBob Movie in
• 1:07:59
  In the SpongeBob Movie, David Hasselhoff.
• 1:08:04
  No, but that's like we're we're laughing about it, but that's
• 1:08:07
  literally what what happened, right?
• 1:08:09
  So. He, he apparently swam.
• 1:08:12
  He, he he drags 2 soldiers. Yeah, or two, Yeah, two naval
• 1:08:17
  officers, more than two. But like he, they all did swim.
• 1:08:21
  But he he physically held two men.
• 1:08:26
  Carried them by their life jackets.
• 1:08:29
  Yeah. Could 2 separate or I'll do it,
• 1:08:31
  I'll do it, I'll do it. Two islands.
• 1:08:33
  No, it's not one island, two islands.
• 1:08:38
  You're telling me there's two islands?
• 1:08:41
  Anyway, so right, Let me get So John had been a championship
• 1:08:51
  swimmer when he was at Harvard, and he swam with two wounded
• 1:08:56
  soldiers, essentially carrying them by their life jackets, and
• 1:09:00
  swam hours in the Pacific Ocean, finally making it.
• 1:09:05
  He swam with two men for hours till he met, till they reached
• 1:09:11
  land. But the problem was there, this
• 1:09:15
  was a deserted island with no food, no water.
• 1:09:18
  Most of his men were injured at that point and exhausted.
• 1:09:21
  And John was just like, Nah, spots another fucking island in
• 1:09:26
  the distance and he's like worth the fucking shot.
• 1:09:28
  This man swims again. She wouldn't know their fucking
• 1:09:33
  island right with these men. And then after like 4 days with
• 1:09:40
  no food and no water, the 11 survivors are so stoked to find
• 1:09:44
  out they're actually like coconuts for them to eat on the
• 1:09:47
  second island. But JFK, he's just still in like
• 1:09:50
  fucking like he's in the zone still.
• 1:09:52
  And he's just like, right, well, we've got injured fucking men
• 1:09:55
  here that like, we can't take care of like, what the fuck's
• 1:09:57
  going to happen? So John then swims again.
• 1:10:01
  He swims again to another island.
• 1:10:04
  And this one is called Naru. And thankfully the locals living
• 1:10:08
  there, they're pretty friendly. They are still typically in
• 1:10:11
  enemy territory. But the these island people had
• 1:10:15
  no, no involvement kind of whatsoever.
• 1:10:17
  They were just like this white man just shows up on the island
• 1:10:22
  swum here like what the fuck. But he still has these are these
• 1:10:28
  are Polynesian islands, aren't they?
• 1:10:29
  So like they're out near New Zealand is kind of the nearest.
• 1:10:35
  Kind of like main place. And so they're they're friendly,
• 1:10:39
  whatever, but he's still like he has to keep kind of like a low,
• 1:10:42
  a low profile with this, but he's really polite, He's really
• 1:10:46
  nice. He asks for food supplies and
• 1:10:50
  then boats so they can like make it out of there.
• 1:10:53
  So John, this is fucking crazy, right?
• 1:10:56
  John takes a coconut, right? It sounds fake.
• 1:11:02
  It doesn't sound like a real. Oh, it is it.
• 1:11:04
  It does sound. And pardon this poem, it does
• 1:11:07
  sound nuts, but this is a fantastic story.
• 1:11:12
  So basically, he pulls. He pulls his genius fucking
• 1:11:16
  move, takes a coconut and carried carves in a coded
• 1:11:20
  message, right, And it's basically like it says kind of
• 1:11:26
  narrow island 11 alive needs small boat Kennedy, right.
• 1:11:30
  That's that's exactly what it said straight to the point.
• 1:11:33
  And then they just wait. He gives it to one of the
• 1:11:36
  locals. The locals come back then after,
• 1:11:40
  like, a day or so with a bunch of fucking food and fresh water
• 1:11:45
  and supplies, and then they're rescued after six fucking days
• 1:11:48
  being stranded. He saved all of these fucking
• 1:11:51
  people. Just like, yeah, like, that's
• 1:11:54
  fucking incredible. Like, it's insane.
• 1:11:56
  And I had no idea that that this had happened until I was, like,
• 1:11:59
  actually looking into it. And I was just like Jesus.
• 1:12:02
  Christ, me too. I was, I was looking at and if
• 1:12:04
  if you see the pictures of him in the Oval Office, then he has
• 1:12:11
  the coconut is like, so he saved the coconut or someone brought
• 1:12:16
  getting the coconut and he has it in a glass Dome and he it got
• 1:12:20
  made into a paperweight and it was his paperweight on his desk
• 1:12:24
  in the Oval Office was the coconut that he he used to save
• 1:12:28
  the guys. So he as well, like he was
• 1:12:31
  supposed to just go on and do different kind of thing.
• 1:12:35
  He wasn't. He had an older brother who was
• 1:12:38
  in line to be president. Like he was running for
• 1:12:40
  president and then he he had passed away.
• 1:12:43
  So then it kind of got handed straight down to John.
• 1:12:46
  How long we? We should really get into how
• 1:12:50
  his brother passed away as well. So Joe is in a.
• 1:12:54
  Plane crash in 19. Yeah, but the fascinating thing
• 1:12:58
  about this is, right, first of all, when we talk about JFK and
• 1:13:03
  how he is a dolphin man, he is basically fucking dead.
• 1:13:07
  And the, the American Irish, Jason Momoa, he shouldn't have
• 1:13:11
  gone to war because he was exempt from war because of, as
• 1:13:16
  you said, his, he had illnesses as a child.
• 1:13:19
  But he, he said he wanted to go and join the Navy.
• 1:13:24
  And he went and joined the Navy because there's something also
• 1:13:27
  in these Kennedys that they have the ambition and the drive to be
• 1:13:33
  rich and powerful, but they also have this weird that they're
• 1:13:36
  riddled with ADHD. I'm convinced of it, but they
• 1:13:40
  they have this kind of need to do the dangerous thing like they
• 1:13:48
  can't just live a comfortable life.
• 1:13:51
  They have to be in fucking the peril or there has to be some
• 1:13:56
  excitement going on in their life.
• 1:13:58
  And JFK is older brother. Absolutely yeah, true secrets is
• 1:14:03
  exactly it. Yeah.
• 1:14:05
  So JFK is older brother he. Was also in the Army, yeah.
• 1:14:12
  And he so we still don't know what exactly happened in that
• 1:14:19
  playing. Gradually the government didn't
• 1:14:21
  release what had happened and how it went down.
• 1:14:24
  Like we probably will never fucking know.
• 1:14:27
  But basically he let me go into it a little bit.
• 1:14:32
  I've got like a couple of notes just saying that it it was never
• 1:14:36
  kind of discussed or anything like that, why it happened.
• 1:14:41
  It just the plane went down when he was in the Army in 1944 and
• 1:14:45
  that was it. No, yes.
• 1:14:47
  So the the idea of this this this particular plane was so by
• 1:14:54
  the way as well, Joe had had done enough missions that he
• 1:14:57
  could have went home, but he said he wants to stay.
• 1:15:01
  He wants to stay on. And he said this mission in
• 1:15:04
  particular he wants to do, and he was told that this mission
• 1:15:07
  was going to be an extremely dangerous mission.
• 1:15:10
  And there was a plane that was going to be a remote control
• 1:15:14
  plane and it was filled with explosives and it was to bomb a
• 1:15:24
  Nazi stronghold in France. So if they were in England and
• 1:15:30
  they get into this plane, this plane has to be manned and it
• 1:15:33
  gets so far and then they release this remote control,
• 1:15:39
  basically a drone basically very early kind of days.
• 1:15:44
  But you they had to physically drive this plane into the sky to
• 1:15:49
  get it over where it needs to be before they can remote control
• 1:15:52
  user. And obviously with this being a
• 1:15:57
  perilous mission, there was a high risk.
• 1:16:00
  And Joe was told that he was told he didn't have to do the
• 1:16:03
  mission, what he wanted to do the mission.
• 1:16:05
  And yeah, as you say, there's not much information kind of
• 1:16:11
  divulged about order than the plane got into the air and
• 1:16:15
  somewhere over. Yeah, yeah, some somewhere over
• 1:16:20
  the sea between England and France and an explosion happened
• 1:16:23
  and the plane went down and that was it, Yeah.
• 1:16:26
  And Joel was never to be seen. Never to be seen, nobody
• 1:16:31
  recovered, nothing like that. So then automatically the kind
• 1:16:34
  of the throne and you could say goes to John, who was just 27 at
• 1:16:39
  the time. And I will like I've never in my
• 1:16:43
  life anything close to what JFK did before I was 27.
• 1:16:50
  Jesus fucking Christ. Like they all have such ambition
• 1:16:55
  and accomplished so much at such young ages.
• 1:16:58
  And I'll get more into that little bit later.
• 1:17:02
  The actual like they called to kind of curse side of it and
• 1:17:08
  which dates back to PJ. But like, anyway, I'll keep
• 1:17:11
  going with this from now on. So basically he's he's the
• 1:17:15
  oldest boy now and he's got all the pressure on him and there is
• 1:17:21
  like so growing up, Rose Kennedy, the mom had always said
• 1:17:27
  to whom much is given much is expected, right, which is a
• 1:17:32
  fucking that's a lot of pressure to live up to as a fucking kid.
• 1:17:37
  But anyway, after Joe Junior died, both Mr. and Misses
• 1:17:41
  Kennedy were expecting fucking huge things from JFK.
• 1:17:45
  They were expecting him to be like his older brother.
• 1:17:47
  But suddenly all the dreams that they'd had for their oldest son
• 1:17:50
  just transferred right on down to to John.
• 1:17:54
  So in 1952, John, now 35, ran for Senate.
• 1:18:00
  And what's crazy is that he was considered an underdog at the
• 1:18:03
  time. He was also considered a man of
• 1:18:05
  the people, which obviously he represented progress and hope,
• 1:18:10
  and it was kind of a threat to the existing politicians.
• 1:18:13
  So everyone was really shocked when he actually won.
• 1:18:16
  And this really put the political spotlight off JFK for
• 1:18:19
  the first time. But he was this like, was this
• 1:18:23
  enough for dirty? Of course not.
• 1:18:25
  Wasn't John was Joe was still just like, Nah, you have to do
• 1:18:29
  more than this. You have to be fucking the
• 1:18:30
  greatest president of all time, basically.
• 1:18:33
  So the family decided that in 1960, he was going to run for
• 1:18:39
  president and not just be Senate, even though, like, I
• 1:18:42
  think John would have been happy himself to stay in the Senate.
• 1:18:48
  Like, he was just like, no, that's not enough.
• 1:18:51
  So even though JFK had been in Congress for 14 years at this
• 1:18:55
  point, he wasn't really seen as much of A threat going into the
• 1:18:58
  presidential election. Apparently, he was most known
• 1:19:01
  for being a witty Playboy more than anything else, so he wasn't
• 1:19:07
  really taken seriously. JFK got married in 1953 to
• 1:19:11
  Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, Jackie O, as most people know
• 1:19:16
  her as. And they were kind of like a
• 1:19:18
  really hot like it couple who ate sheet metal together, which
• 1:19:26
  does that mean that I keep seeing going around?
• 1:19:30
  But Jackie was kind of seen as this cool like fashion icon
• 1:19:34
  girl. Like again, we could kind of
• 1:19:36
  like liken her to how Rose Kennedy was seen the Paris
• 1:19:43
  Hilton kind of overtime or whatever.
• 1:19:46
  And then, yeah, they were like a.
• 1:19:49
  Really. I just seen recently that there
• 1:19:51
  is a there is a movie called Jackie.
• 1:19:57
  Yeah, it was in the back of my head, but I was at Hathaway and
• 1:20:01
  Hathaway. Plays with Hathaway.
• 1:20:03
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:20:05
  And I think I'd be very interested in that, but I didn't
• 1:20:09
  know it existed until just the other night.
• 1:20:12
  Yeah, Jackie's life in general is, is actually really
• 1:20:15
  interesting. And again, we could do a whole
• 1:20:17
  fucking episode on her. She was like basically BPD
• 1:20:21
  before BPD existed. So she had a lot kind of going
• 1:20:25
  on, but. Yeah, her life is like pretty
• 1:20:28
  fucked up. Who's?
• 1:20:29
  BPD. Borderline personality disorder.
• 1:20:34
  I have BPD. Oh, I tell your I'm a person
• 1:20:37
  like I tell her. It's like, hey I'll.
• 1:20:39
  See. Yeah, I know, my friend.
• 1:20:40
  BP personality disorder. But yeah, anyway, so some claim
• 1:20:45
  that this is he would, he would just shag around.
• 1:20:49
  And then Jackie kind of like knew about it.
• 1:20:51
  She hated it, but she was just like, well, what else am I going
• 1:20:53
  to fucking do? He's the president of the United
• 1:20:55
  States, right? So again, well, he's going to be
• 1:20:59
  the president. Nobody thought he would get in
• 1:21:01
  because he's they still had that Irish Catholic skepticism.
• 1:21:05
  They're just like, no, there's no fucking way that there's
• 1:21:07
  going to be a Mick in the White House.
• 1:21:09
  Like that's fucking ridiculous. Like a Senate is one thing, but
• 1:21:12
  like to lead the fucking like greatest country in the world,
• 1:21:15
  you're going to have a fucking drunken Irish like, you know,
• 1:21:18
  like basically in the White House anyone by a fucking.
• 1:21:25
  Yeah. I don't think they, yeah, I
• 1:21:28
  think they underestimate the fact that America in like just
• 1:21:34
  maybe less than 100 years had like become like, they're
• 1:21:43
  probably more Irish people in America than Ireland at that
• 1:21:48
  stage. And I mean that by like people
• 1:21:51
  of like expats and people of Irish ancestry.
• 1:21:54
  So, like, it was a big deal to have an Irish, an Irish man in
• 1:22:03
  there. But also the fact that he was
• 1:22:05
  Catholic, he appealed to to a lot more than just the Irish,
• 1:22:13
  like anyone who was Catholic then was saw him as the man
• 1:22:16
  especially as well, like anyone. But even like, even if you think
• 1:22:20
  you think about like there is, there is a lot of like the the
• 1:22:24
  the likes of the Polish and the the the order, the other whites
• 1:22:30
  that would that would be Catholic.
• 1:22:33
  You've got Italians even went from, even though Italians
• 1:22:37
  aren't white at that, still at that stage they're not, I think.
• 1:22:42
  They still had like a prejudice against the Irish.
• 1:22:44
  They still didn't really didn't like the Irish at this time.
• 1:22:46
  But like, it was a Catholic thing.
• 1:22:49
  You know what? I mean, it was.
• 1:22:50
  Better than having like a fucking like, yeah.
• 1:22:54
  Yeah. So it's amazing.
• 1:22:55
  And even and when you even see like the the fundamentalist
• 1:23:00
  Christians and stuff like that, they're still kind of like in
• 1:23:03
  America, they're still kind of see Catholicism as oh, that's,
• 1:23:07
  that is a form of old Christianity.
• 1:23:12
  So they're like, OK, so it's it's closer to us than, you
• 1:23:15
  know, like you, you won't see a Muslim president in a long time
• 1:23:19
  because it's so fucking it. It's so different, like and you.
• 1:23:22
  Can see people freaking the fuck out about Mandani.
• 1:23:26
  Mandani, Yeah. Being mayor of New York and it's
• 1:23:30
  like it's insane the reaction that's getting and there's
• 1:23:33
  people being like Oh well y'all voted for him, don't come down
• 1:23:36
  here to Nashville. It's like fucking sorry like
• 1:23:40
  Everly with your 3 kids, Braxton Broxton and fucking hits like
• 1:23:46
  nobody wants to move to fucking Nashville.
• 1:23:50
  Is that Braxton Hicks pun? Yeah, that's what they name
• 1:23:56
  their kids, like Braxton Broxton Higgs.
• 1:24:00
  Like come. Here, like fucking fuck off,
• 1:24:04
  like and like the great S like they're you're all you all just
• 1:24:07
  shot like I have some fucking sexy cousins, right.
• 1:24:10
  I do like I'm not going to fucking get up on one of them
• 1:24:14
  just because I'm like keeping in the family.
• 1:24:16
  Like if the Lord can lead you to it, the Lord can lead you
• 1:24:19
  through it. Like half a dozen of one.
• 1:24:21
  Stick to the others. So how did we get here?
• 1:24:26
  I don't know. Let me talk, let me cook.
• 1:24:29
  So basically at this time then for the presidential run, JFK
• 1:24:34
  was up against Nixon like I am not.
• 1:24:37
  I am not a criminal, Agnew. Not going to pay.
• 1:24:50
  So basically Nixon, I mean, he wasn't really beating Kennedy in
• 1:24:57
  the beauty contest part of the presidential election really,
• 1:25:01
  was he? He was just a fucking Jelly old
• 1:25:03
  man Kennedy. The word Jelly was on the tip of
• 1:25:07
  my tongue before you said. The jail and then like Kennedy
• 1:25:12
  as well was like he was funny like so he would make these
• 1:25:14
  jokes all the time about like his dad paying for the votes and
• 1:25:20
  like his like literally he was just like, where is that the
• 1:25:24
  exact quote I have here? Hang on, I've just received the
• 1:25:28
  following wire from my generous daddy.
• 1:25:31
  Dear Jack jump by a single vote more than necessary.
• 1:25:35
  I'll only pay for a landslide. Like basically like he was just
• 1:25:40
  kind of joking about the whole time and but still it wasn't.
• 1:25:43
  It was still a really close kind of call, but he did win.
• 1:25:49
  A lot of people did kind of vote for him because he was young.
• 1:25:51
  I would vote for the hot one. That makes sense.
• 1:25:53
  Like honestly, like I am loving the silver.
• 1:25:58
  Kind of like clips and stuff from the mayoral election in New
• 1:26:02
  York. The guy who was up against.
• 1:26:05
  Just. Because he's fucking mental.
• 1:26:08
  But like, yeah, I just you're going to go for the hot 1.
• 1:26:12
  I wouldn't care if he was just like, we should fucking bring
• 1:26:15
  back racism. Might be like, yes daddy, we
• 1:26:18
  should bring back racism. I feel like in a way you kind
• 1:26:23
  of. Have brought back racism a.
• 1:26:25
  Little bit, little bit. I'm just going to like literally
• 1:26:28
  when I'm shagging my boyfriend now, I'm just going to say
• 1:26:30
  really racist things to him. Like during actually, that's a
• 1:26:35
  funny story, right? So my one of my my really good
• 1:26:37
  friends is a black dude and Hispanic and Native American.
• 1:26:40
  He's got it all going on right. But he has this thing for
• 1:26:46
  fucking girls and like making them say the N word while he's
• 1:26:50
  fucking them. And I was like, do they actually
• 1:26:54
  say it? And he was just like, you'd be
• 1:26:56
  surprised how fucking willing and excited some women are to
• 1:27:01
  say it. If you're let's say a one word,
• 1:27:05
  you're not allowed to say that's.
• 1:27:08
  Yeah, I mean they. Give him full permission.
• 1:27:12
  Yeah, just like, yeah, like fucking bounce on my Dick and
• 1:27:15
  call me a expletive. Like like truly.
• 1:27:20
  And they do it. And he's just like, I'm like,
• 1:27:21
  and you, you like it. And he's like, yeah, fucking
• 1:27:24
  love it. It's like, it's not humiliating
• 1:27:26
  for me. It's humiliating for them to
• 1:27:29
  like fucking. Say this horrible shit.
• 1:27:33
  I think it's like my. If I get that pass, I'm gonna
• 1:27:37
  fucking say it with the hard or. You you can have any hole you
• 1:27:42
  want as long as I get that hard or that's all I want.
• 1:27:44
  That's all I'm here for. I think it's unfair to as Irish
• 1:27:51
  people where we don't have the pass.
• 1:27:54
  It's like we didn't do it actually.
• 1:27:56
  Or she told me before that so we have a mutual friend or she knew
• 1:28:01
  we know from like wrestling and stuff.
• 1:28:03
  So he was telling me like in his days when he used to work in the
• 1:28:06
  call center, some English guy called him a potato N word.
• 1:28:11
  That's that's funny. That's inventive.
• 1:28:13
  That's hilarious. And he said I can't even be mad
• 1:28:16
  at that because like, that's so fucking creative.
• 1:28:20
  And he was like a Brit who's creative.
• 1:28:22
  I have to give it to him. I was just like, you know?
• 1:28:25
  What? Yeah.
• 1:28:26
  I am a potato N word. Yeah.
• 1:28:30
  And I've heard the phrase sport monkey.
• 1:28:34
  Like I just, I'll allow that. Someone calls me a sport monkey,
• 1:28:39
  I'll be like, yeah. That's pretty good, but for?
• 1:28:41
  Some reason that sounds worse I. Don't know.
• 1:28:45
  Yeah. I'll take it.
• 1:28:46
  But like, I don't mind. I've, I've been in there.
• 1:28:52
  I've, I've been in England before and had someone call me a
• 1:28:57
  Mick because of my accent and it's a funny thing to be like
• 1:29:03
  to, to be racially kind of abused but also being white so
• 1:29:11
  like. Yeah, I I don't think it exists.
• 1:29:14
  I just I can't, I can't find any any slur towards someone who's
• 1:29:21
  white offense like I just can't and like my.
• 1:29:24
  Brother lives in New York. Well, like I know.
• 1:29:26
  But the first? Move to new.
• 1:29:28
  York, because it's a Brit that's saying it to me, but it's he
• 1:29:33
  could say any, well, he could say anything to me.
• 1:29:36
  If he called me a punt, I'd be as offended as if he's calling
• 1:29:40
  me a Mick. Like it's, you know, you know
• 1:29:42
  what I mean? It's just because you're a Brit
• 1:29:44
  and you're caught, you're you're calling me names.
• 1:29:46
  But like, I, I am, It's funny because I was wrestling over in,
• 1:29:53
  in England once and there was a bunch of us, a bunch of Irish
• 1:29:57
  guys and a big, a big black Canadian fella called Drew Onyx.
• 1:30:05
  Lovely man, Yeah, tall, very like a big presence, booming
• 1:30:14
  voice, but just a very jovial, friendly man.
• 1:30:17
  And we found ourselves wandering around.
• 1:30:20
  I ever somewhere in London, we were wandering around.
• 1:30:23
  We were just trying to find a pub.
• 1:30:24
  And of course we wandered in to A to the wrong pub and you know,
• 1:30:30
  all these guys with fucking bald heads and bulldog tattoos that
• 1:30:35
  looks like they were fucking the tattoo artist was Michael J Fox.
• 1:30:39
  Like just fucking he's these fucking stereotypical fucking
• 1:30:46
  England first kind of guys, right?
• 1:30:48
  And you have to like this was probably the mid 2000s, early to
• 1:30:54
  mid 2000s, like so where we we were, we got into the pub and we
• 1:31:01
  know us like that every or also there's there's a guy there
• 1:31:06
  called another black guy called corrupt, but he was English and
• 1:31:10
  he twigged it kind of straight away.
• 1:31:12
  Shit, this isn't the pub that we should be in.
• 1:31:14
  And but like, we kind of were just wandered away in that and
• 1:31:19
  Drew just being kind of this happy fucking Canadian, just
• 1:31:26
  kind of drifted his way up towards the bar and myself and
• 1:31:31
  Danny bought her, followed suit, 2 very Irish people.
• 1:31:36
  And but we got to the bar and the bar man, bless him, he
• 1:31:42
  wasn't like, you know, the same as everybody else.
• 1:31:45
  So he kind of gave Drew, he gave Drew the fucking the, the
• 1:31:50
  skinny. He kind of said, look, mate, I
• 1:31:53
  don't think this is the bar for you.
• 1:31:55
  And Danny Butler being Danny Butler was like, here, what the
• 1:32:01
  fuck is the problem? All we want is a few points and
• 1:32:03
  your man went around to Danny. He goes, are you?
• 1:32:05
  He goes, are you Irish? And that he goes, yeah, we're
• 1:32:08
  all Irish because. Lads.
• 1:32:11
  He says. He says blacks and Irish, he
• 1:32:17
  said if you had a German shepherd you won't get into a
• 1:32:19
  pub in England, right? Now.
• 1:32:24
  That's amazing. I love that.
• 1:32:28
  That's so good. Just for anybody out there,
• 1:32:32
  there is the yeah, that these have signs of all over, yeah, no
• 1:32:37
  blacks, no dogs, no Irish. And yeah, that was the that was
• 1:32:44
  signs that were up in the pubs here.
• 1:32:45
  So like black people and Irish people were seen as the same as
• 1:32:49
  dogs over in England at one stage.
• 1:32:53
  So yes. So we should be allowed say the
• 1:32:56
  N word is what I'm getting at. I mean, yeah, I I hardly agree
• 1:33:03
  with you there. So.
• 1:33:07
  Anyway, and now like and I don't want to use it like to call like
• 1:33:13
  to be given them shit. I want to be able to sing the
• 1:33:16
  songs in front of. Them of of your people?
• 1:33:20
  Yeah, exactly. So basically, where was I going
• 1:33:28
  with this? I've completely lost everything.
• 1:33:31
  Yeah, the Kennedys. But yeah, so in 1961, JFK
• 1:33:40
  fulfilled his debties first dream and became the 35th
• 1:33:44
  President of the United States. The Irish Catholic community
• 1:33:48
  were fucking stoked. So this is like a huge fucking
• 1:33:52
  move. And then As for Joe, Papa Joe,
• 1:33:55
  it was always said that quote, the election of JFK as president
• 1:34:00
  of the United States, it was the ultimate victory for Joseph
• 1:34:04
  Senior. It was a Catholic and excluded
• 1:34:06
  from Boston's elite society. Like, what more could he have
• 1:34:10
  fucking gotten out of that? You know, I mean, like, if your
• 1:34:14
  goal is I'll show them to a fucking elite Society of fucking
• 1:34:19
  businessmen in America, your son going on to be president is
• 1:34:23
  pretty fucking hardcore cool revenge, right?
• 1:34:27
  And then, yeah, the the I actually do have notes here on
• 1:34:30
  the fact that he took the coconut to to make a paperweight
• 1:34:33
  in the in the White House, Sonia.
• 1:34:36
  The I pay attention too. We already mentioned then that
• 1:34:39
  John was a little bit of a little bit of a Playboy and that
• 1:34:43
  still didn't stop when he became president at all.
• 1:34:47
  It kind of got a bit worse. But back in the 60s in America,
• 1:34:52
  there was kind of like an unwritten rule where the press
• 1:34:55
  didn't report on the president's kind of like private affairs or,
• 1:35:03
  you know, life or anything like that.
• 1:35:04
  It just, you just didn't happen like especially when it came to
• 1:35:09
  extramarital affairs. So their newspapers and stuff,
• 1:35:15
  they were just they would kind of like look the other way.
• 1:35:16
  So JFK, like there was an actual quote from him when he met the
• 1:35:23
  Prime Minister being, I don't even know who the Prime Minister
• 1:35:25
  was at that time. Was it like?
• 1:35:28
  Of England. Yeah.
• 1:35:31
  He said. He said this to the point it
• 1:35:34
  wouldn't have been. It was Churchill and then it was
• 1:35:39
  what was his name? Fuck Churchill stayed for a lot
• 1:35:44
  longer than he should. Have yeah, yeah, Churchill hung
• 1:35:46
  around for a while, but yeah, I just listened to A10 part series
• 1:35:52
  on their fin versus history on the the prime minister's the
• 1:35:58
  post war prime ministers and I can't fucking think of who was.
• 1:36:01
  Harold's Harold's say Harold Shipman is like.
• 1:36:07
  No, not him. Hang on, Echo.
• 1:36:12
  Who was the Prime Minister of England when John F Kennedy was
• 1:36:16
  the president of the United States?
• 1:36:20
  Echo order a Russian mail order bride I.
• 1:36:27
  Wish. OK, Prime.
• 1:36:31
  Minister, order me a Mexican. She's already done that during
• 1:36:42
  JFK. Oh, I was right.
• 1:36:45
  Harold Macmillan. I knew it was a Harold.
• 1:36:48
  Millan. McMillan.
• 1:36:49
  McMillan How long? He was a boring one, wasn't he?
• 1:36:52
  How long did he last? He. 1957 to October 1963.
• 1:37:01
  Interesting, so he didn't last too long after the old head
• 1:37:05
  explosion? No, he yeah.
• 1:37:08
  So the his he actually resigned just before so Kennedy.
• 1:37:14
  Spoiler alert, he had his head exploded in November 1960. 3.
• 1:37:21
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. A month after Harold had
• 1:37:23
  resigned, Right. So anyway, basically, so he had
• 1:37:30
  told Harold on one of his like trips to the UKI get these
• 1:37:34
  terrible headaches if I don't have a woman every three days.
• 1:37:39
  Same. You know what I mean?
• 1:37:40
  I get massive diarrhea if I don't have a man.
• 1:37:43
  But basically like everyone was kind of like.
• 1:37:45
  Maybe that's why I was shitting myself there last.
• 1:37:48
  Year you need a man, but like nobody kind of like he didn't
• 1:37:52
  say like I, you know, I get like headaches if I don't have my
• 1:37:56
  wife ever. It's if I don't have a woman and
• 1:37:59
  no one kind of like batted an eyelid.
• 1:38:04
  So enter Mimi Alford, just as John F Kennedy did.
• 1:38:11
  Mimi was four days into her internship at the White House
• 1:38:17
  and only just 19 years old when JFK invited her to go swimming
• 1:38:21
  in the White House pool. So it's like it's her 4th day.
• 1:38:25
  She works as a fucking intern in the White House.
• 1:38:27
  She probably felt obligated to go swimming with the president
• 1:38:31
  of the fucking. Like, I'm not going to say no.
• 1:38:33
  I don't really know a lot of people who would say no.
• 1:38:37
  So she ends up like meeting with him in the pool.
• 1:38:42
  I think they hook up that night and then she essentially becomes
• 1:38:46
  his little like live in girlfriend in the White House.
• 1:38:51
  And a lot of the other staffers kind of just didn't like her and
• 1:38:56
  they were bullying her because she was just essentially kept
• 1:38:58
  her own to be his girlfriend. She got this like special
• 1:39:01
  treatment and stuff, but it was like it was really kind of sad.
• 1:39:05
  So like basically they they kind of, I guess like broke up.
• 1:39:07
  She did write a book a few years later, I think it was called
• 1:39:11
  Once Upon a Secret or something like that, where she wrote about
• 1:39:15
  the whole thing and like she was a fucking.
• 1:39:17
  Kid president that couldn't slow down.
• 1:39:20
  And shit like, but he, you know, I mean, it is sad.
• 1:39:23
  Like she she's a kid at this point.
• 1:39:24
  He's like 404142 at this stage. And then like you can't really
• 1:39:30
  say no, can you? Like, do you know what I mean?
• 1:39:33
  Like you. Just.
• 1:39:34
  Yeah, like there is the implication there.
• 1:39:37
  Like he is the most powerful man on the planet.
• 1:39:42
  Really. Like so.
• 1:39:43
  She can't say no, but again, right.
• 1:39:45
  So Mimi, as we all know, wasn't the only the only one of, of
• 1:39:51
  Jack Kennedy's affairs. So the president and none other
• 1:39:55
  than Marilyn Monroe were hanging out together at parties in
• 1:39:59
  Malibu, Palm Springs and New York.
• 1:40:01
  And of course there were rumors. These rumors had made it into
• 1:40:05
  tabloids, but people weren't really sure what was happening
• 1:40:09
  until the fucking the birthday song.
• 1:40:12
  So you don't know what the birthday song is?
• 1:40:16
  You do know what the birthday song is like?
• 1:40:18
  Happy birthday Mr. President. So she jumps out of the cake on
• 1:40:25
  his birthday and she's wearing like a fucking skin tight nude
• 1:40:29
  colored dress. Like she looks completely naked
• 1:40:31
  and like essentially laugh dances the man at his birthday.
• 1:40:38
  And then there was this. It was in like fucking Madison
• 1:40:41
  Square Garden as well. It was a gala.
• 1:40:43
  It was a fucking huge party. There were hundreds of people
• 1:40:47
  there. There were film crews.
• 1:40:49
  Jackie herself wasn't there at the time.
• 1:40:52
  But like, there's no way she didn't.
• 1:40:53
  Like she fucking saw it and she knew what was happening.
• 1:40:56
  We're still talking about it now.
• 1:41:00
  Like Marilyn just just fucking didn't care.
• 1:41:03
  Everyone was just like, Oh my God, like, sensational,
• 1:41:06
  incredible, amazing. Marilyn Monroe can do no wrong.
• 1:41:10
  And then after the song, they were given JFK his birthday
• 1:41:13
  cake. He apparently said I can now
• 1:41:15
  retire from politics after having had happy birthday sung
• 1:41:19
  to me in such a sweet and wholesome way.
• 1:41:23
  Obviously he was fucking joking, but like, you know.
• 1:41:27
  In such a sweet and. Wholesome way after that, then
• 1:41:36
  everyone was like, Oh yeah, they're fucking like, they're
• 1:41:38
  they're doing big fucking stinky fucking like.
• 1:41:43
  I was a pretty fucking wild thing for Marilyn to do.
• 1:41:46
  But at this specific time. So at one time she was the most
• 1:41:51
  wanted, beautiful, incredible, most famous woman in the world.
• 1:41:55
  Basically, she could have had anything she wanted, but at this
• 1:41:57
  point she had kind of like descended into a really bad
• 1:42:03
  depression. She wasn't kind of working as
• 1:42:05
  much. There was like film studios
• 1:42:07
  trying to fire her and things like that because she was a bit
• 1:42:10
  of like her loose cannon essentially.
• 1:42:14
  And and she was kind of running around the place stick shooting
• 1:42:20
  her mouth off about it, saying like she was shagging John.
• 1:42:22
  She was also shagging John's younger brother, Bobby Kennedy
• 1:42:28
  and and then saying that John was going to leave Jackie for
• 1:42:32
  her. Just kind of couldn't keep her
• 1:42:35
  mouth shut about it. She she was, she she was kind of
• 1:42:41
  I don't want to say she was drugged up because I don't think
• 1:42:44
  she was recreationally drugged up.
• 1:42:46
  No, they. Kept her, kind of, yeah.
• 1:42:49
  It was the Britney situation, I think a little bit with Marilyn.
• 1:42:53
  Well, yeah, the studios kind of had their director because she
• 1:42:56
  was, from all reports, a very clever woman and she was a very
• 1:43:02
  savvy businesswoman. A problem she had was that she
• 1:43:07
  got wrapped up in these production companies and got her
• 1:43:12
  under contract and basically she was on.
• 1:43:17
  She was a slave to whatever production company that she she
• 1:43:23
  was working for. And they had her doing all kinds
• 1:43:27
  of like, This is why she was doing these, these appearances
• 1:43:31
  with the president and all this kind of stuff.
• 1:43:33
  But she was all around the clock.
• 1:43:36
  So she was on amphetamines to kind of keep up and to keep
• 1:43:40
  awake because basically she she was like on call 24/7.
• 1:43:44
  Yeah. And she like literally like she,
• 1:43:47
  she was having a horrible time of it because like at that
• 1:43:50
  point, I mean, I think there, there's probably a lot of
• 1:43:53
  fucking like legalities and stuff in place now to stop this
• 1:43:56
  from happening. But at that time, if you worked
• 1:43:59
  in Hollywood, you fucking constantly 24/7 worked in
• 1:44:02
  Hollywood, they owned you. You didn't really have your own
• 1:44:05
  kind of life or whatever. But, yeah, when she was running
• 1:44:10
  around saying these things that like the Kennedys were kind of
• 1:44:12
  like, all right, well, this, this can't happen.
• 1:44:14
  She's gone. So she was killed.
• 1:44:21
  Allegedly, she was found dead. She was found dead.
• 1:44:25
  I don't know who I'm protecting with that.
• 1:44:27
  No, I will go into it, but there there was a tape that was found
• 1:44:30
  with two men arguing. Yes, one of them sounded a lot
• 1:44:35
  like Bobby, I think. Yeah, one of them sound a lot
• 1:44:37
  like Bobby. And this theory, I've like seen
• 1:44:40
  a bunch of different theories, but one of the theories go goes
• 1:44:44
  that like, basically she was shagging the two of them, but
• 1:44:49
  Bobby really loved her and she preferred John.
• 1:44:54
  Like she wanted to be with John. And like, Bobby had kind of
• 1:44:59
  tried to protect her a little bit.
• 1:45:00
  And he obviously couldn't because she was going to fucking
• 1:45:05
  smear the president of the United States.
• 1:45:06
  So there wasn't really anything he could do at that point to
• 1:45:10
  kind of help her. And I think he'd gone over to
• 1:45:14
  try and like reason with her. And there was, yeah, it
• 1:45:18
  definitely wasn't a suicide. Like, that's kind of what most.
• 1:45:24
  So when it was all reported properly, it went down as a
• 1:45:27
  probable suicide. It was never actually ruled a
• 1:45:31
  proper suicide. And they just closed everything
• 1:45:34
  up. They closed the case, everything
• 1:45:36
  like that as a probable suicide. They didn't really kind of dig
• 1:45:39
  that much deeper into it because they fully fucking knew that the
• 1:45:42
  Kennedys were involved in that, or at least John was.
• 1:45:47
  But yeah, we can. We can again, we can do a whole
• 1:45:49
  other episode on her. She had a fucking horribly
• 1:45:51
  tragic life. And then Joe DiMaggio had come
• 1:45:55
  out still. He's her ex-husband.
• 1:45:56
  He was a very famous baseball player at that time and said
• 1:46:00
  that he was convinced that the Kennedys were involved in her
• 1:46:03
  death in some way and that she wouldn't have taken her own
• 1:46:06
  life. So yeah, that was like a that
• 1:46:10
  was another fucking huge thing. He said.
• 1:46:12
  The whole lot of the Kennedys and they, they were always lady
• 1:46:15
  killers and they always got away with it.
• 1:46:18
  They'll get away with it years from now too.
• 1:46:22
  So tragedy then struck again on November 22nd, 1963 in Dallas,
• 1:46:28
  TX when JFK was assassinated. He was doing like a tour of the
• 1:46:34
  city, just doing his presidential rounds, and he was
• 1:46:38
  sniped in the head by Lee Harvey Oswald.
• 1:46:43
  Allegedly. Allegedly.
• 1:46:48
  And then I think two days later, Oswald was shot and killed.
• 1:46:52
  Which? According to Time magazine
• 1:46:54
  quote, the explanation of Oswald's motive for killing
• 1:46:58
  President Kennedy was buried with him.
• 1:47:01
  So nobody knows why he did it. He was shot and killed before he
• 1:47:05
  could go to trial. He could like be interviewed,
• 1:47:07
  anything like that. So we don't know.
• 1:47:11
  I would have like, I mean my conspiracy brain automatically
• 1:47:14
  goes to it being like an inside job.
• 1:47:16
  I don't think that it was just some fucking nut job who
• 1:47:20
  happened. To be there's there's like
• 1:47:24
  multiple conspiracies that again, we're we're doing the
• 1:47:28
  curse of the Kennedys. We're not doing that.
• 1:47:30
  The the conspiracies behind JFK. Maybe we can just give it like
• 1:47:35
  next week. We could probably, yeah, we
• 1:47:38
  could. We could do like the
• 1:47:39
  conspiracies, but just to sprinkle a little like of what?
• 1:47:42
  Like who the conspiracies are? There's the CIA conspiracy.
• 1:47:46
  CIA had him killed because he wanted to.
• 1:47:51
  There was a bunch of stuff that he wanted to to to leak and
• 1:47:56
  bought. There was they obviously the
• 1:48:00
  alien conspiracies of like he was going to talk about UFO.
• 1:48:08
  Yeah, because he's essentially put NASA where they were.
• 1:48:12
  Like he was really in charge of NASA and pushing it and they'd
• 1:48:17
  achieved a bunch of shit that he had promised like pre.
• 1:48:20
  Him. Yeah.
• 1:48:21
  Well, he promised that they'd land on the moon.
• 1:48:23
  Yeah, like. And he did.
• 1:48:25
  He'd done 69 science in the country.
• 1:48:27
  Allegedly. Yeah, allegedly.
• 1:48:30
  Apparently. Yeah, I.
• 1:48:32
  Still think it's the curtain and the fucking like.
• 1:48:37
  I don't know that's not gonna enter that one, but then there
• 1:48:39
  is also there's the the mob. The mob had him killed because
• 1:48:46
  of well, a bunch of stuff as well.
• 1:48:49
  We like fucking we could spell all like on into and then there
• 1:48:54
  was the there's a Nixon conspiracy as well, I think, and
• 1:48:59
  there's a bunch there's just a bunch of conspiracies of why he
• 1:49:03
  would have been killed. But again, we won't know it was
• 1:49:08
  dead. They'll just say that Lee Harvey
• 1:49:10
  Oswald was a sycophant or not sick about a psychopath who was
• 1:49:15
  fucking acting on his own accord.
• 1:49:19
  But then also there's the conspiracies of Lee Harvey
• 1:49:24
  Oswald was a Patsy and he didn't kill him at all.
• 1:49:27
  There's the whole grassy Knoll because like Lee Harvey Oswald
• 1:49:31
  was supposed to have shot him from this Book Depository
• 1:49:35
  building and what like then there's that the shot came from
• 1:49:39
  the grass, you know, then there's someone saying that
• 1:49:41
  there was two shots. There wasn't just one shot back
• 1:49:44
  into the left, back into the left.
• 1:49:46
  But it's just that it's, it's one of those things that will
• 1:49:52
  forever, I believe it will still for years to come, people will
• 1:49:59
  still be talking about the reasons behind JFK's
• 1:50:03
  assassination and the wise and the hows and The Who did it.
• 1:50:08
  And that's just fascinating itself.
• 1:50:11
  But we can't spend all night talking about JFK's head
• 1:50:15
  exploding because we need to get.
• 1:50:18
  Through this course. Kennedy here.
• 1:50:24
  So yeah, basically, where am I going with this?
• 1:50:27
  Yeah. So to tie it back into a little
• 1:50:29
  bit what I was talking about earlier, the morale and the
• 1:50:33
  Kennedy family over the country in general was in the gutter
• 1:50:37
  after JFK was killed. But families like this, families
• 1:50:41
  of the Kennedys have a plan for stuff like this.
• 1:50:44
  They essentially have this like royal bloodline thing happening,
• 1:50:49
  right. So it's like, basically, when
• 1:50:51
  Queen Elizabeth died, the throne goes to her son, and then
• 1:50:55
  eventually, it's going to go to William.
• 1:50:56
  But like, that's kind of how the Kennedys operated.
• 1:51:01
  So the family then turned to their third oldest son, Bobby.
• 1:51:07
  Bobby is a whole other. OK.
• 1:51:09
  So after he made a name for himself as the Attorney General,
• 1:51:14
  it was decided that Bobby would be the president in 1968.
• 1:51:18
  Things were looking good on the campaign trail.
• 1:51:20
  Then disaster struck. Bobby was assassinated on June
• 1:51:24
  6th, 1968. So like I said earlier, we could
• 1:51:29
  do an entire episode on just Bobby alone and just fucking
• 1:51:33
  like Jack alone. But like this guy made a lot of
• 1:51:38
  enemies. And just like his older brother,
• 1:51:40
  there were a lot of questions and theories surrounding his
• 1:51:43
  death. And again, like him, Joe Junior
• 1:51:47
  and JFK, they all died like super fucking young.
• 1:51:51
  Their sister Kathleen, she ended up dying in a plane crash in
• 1:51:54
  France. I think she was just 28.
• 1:51:56
  And then also like Rose, like got the lobotomy at 23.
• 1:52:01
  So like they don't like, I mean, you could essentially kind of
• 1:52:03
  class her life as being over at 23 at that point.
• 1:52:07
  Yeah, like you could say that's that is something that would
• 1:52:09
  happen in a family curse is if you become a fucking vegetable
• 1:52:14
  at the age of 23. Yeah.
• 1:52:16
  So like, and like, you know what I mean?
• 1:52:18
  Like it's, it's kind of like at this point people were kind of
• 1:52:20
  looking around like, what the fuck is going on with this
• 1:52:22
  family? And they were honestly wondering
• 1:52:25
  if there's truly like some kind of Kennedy curse at play here.
• 1:52:30
  So like Joe Senior after he he suffered a stroke and ended up
• 1:52:36
  dying in 1969. Like, I feel bad for the mom at
• 1:52:40
  this point because like all of her kids are dying, then her
• 1:52:44
  husband dies. It's really fucking sad.
• 1:52:47
  But again, they're the Kennedys. The show must go on.
• 1:52:51
  And they kind of are like, all right, we're at her fucking last
• 1:52:56
  one. This is where we have to make it
• 1:52:59
  work. And they go to Ted now.
• 1:53:01
  Ted. Jesus Christ, right?
• 1:53:04
  Teddy, Teddy, Teddy, Teddy. Ted was very liberal for his
• 1:53:09
  time. Ted was seemingly a very good
• 1:53:12
  guy. Like his politics were were very
• 1:53:14
  good and he was at the time he was very.
• 1:53:19
  I get to like. His politics yeah, yeah, yeah
• 1:53:22
  at. The time, yeah.
• 1:53:23
  I don't mean as a person, I mean like.
• 1:53:26
  He. And he was always, like, afraid
• 1:53:29
  that he would be shot dead just in the running because he scared
• 1:53:34
  the Democrats, like, and the Republicans, like, he was kind
• 1:53:38
  of like a little bit too far out for each of them.
• 1:53:42
  Do you know what I mean? He was too.
• 1:53:44
  Was 1/4 to have said that one day I know one day my ass is
• 1:53:48
  going to get shot and I don't want that to happen.
• 1:53:52
  As he didn't want. To probably have the quarter he
• 1:53:53
  was. Just like, yeah, he was.
• 1:53:55
  I have it here. He said he did.
• 1:53:56
  He didn't want to do it. But basically Rose was like,
• 1:53:58
  you're the only one. You're the last fucking one.
• 1:54:01
  You want to go and do this? So anyway, I'll just read this
• 1:54:04
  word for word. We'll get through this pretty
• 1:54:05
  quickly. So where are we going?
• 1:54:11
  It's not going to go well. But basically the other siblings
• 1:54:16
  that kind of paved the way. And so Rose was just kind of
• 1:54:19
  like exhausted by the last one. Like, she'd had like, fucking
• 1:54:24
  nine kids. So Ted kind of got away with a
• 1:54:26
  lot, but also at the same time, he was living in the shadow of
• 1:54:30
  the rest of his very, very successful fucking brothers.
• 1:54:36
  But public image was again, like it was always fucking everything
• 1:54:42
  to Rose and to Joe. And like, after graduating from
• 1:54:50
  Harvard, then I was going to go somewhere with that.
• 1:54:52
  I'm not going to all the boys out of all the boys in the
• 1:54:56
  family. Ted became a lawyer and started
• 1:54:58
  to make his way into the world. In 1962 he was elected to Senate
• 1:55:03
  where he became major power player over the years All in
• 1:55:09
  all, and things were going like pretty fucking good for him
• 1:55:11
  until the the Kennedy curse strikes in 1964.
• 1:55:16
  Ted was in a private airplane. Which stay away from fucking
• 1:55:20
  airplanes you guys. Jesus.
• 1:55:21
  Christ what guys get out of the planes you fucking I know how
• 1:55:25
  many Kennedys have to die in a plane before you realize time to
• 1:55:28
  take the board? Although there weren't some.
• 1:55:31
  Success for the boards either. I don't know what like, I mean
• 1:55:34
  like John was. John had.
• 1:55:38
  Slippers. And John had gills.
• 1:55:41
  He was, he was fine. But yeah, so basically he was in
• 1:55:47
  a fucking private plane. Oh, wait, wait, I have.
• 1:55:49
  I have something to go on to that riff.
• 1:55:51
  The F and John F Kennedy was for fish.
• 1:55:56
  That wasn't worth stopping him. Well, the last part was that's
• 1:56:04
  fine. So basically, yeah, it was
• 1:56:09
  travelling from DC to Massachusetts, which I like to
• 1:56:13
  call massive, huge dits. Bad weather became an issue and
• 1:56:17
  during the final approach, the plane crashed into an apple
• 1:56:20
  orchard. So the plane so.
• 1:56:23
  It landed Insider. Shut up, shut.
• 1:56:33
  Up. So the plane crashes and the and
• 1:56:39
  the senators, senators aide died on impact.
• 1:56:45
  Ted's wife Joan had survived and so did another senator and his
• 1:56:48
  wife who were passengers on the plane.
• 1:56:51
  After they'd all climbed out, plane went up in flames and it
• 1:56:55
  was very dramatic, you know, But Ted was still in the plane and
• 1:56:58
  they thought that he was dead. But as like the senator and the
• 1:57:02
  wives are escaping to safety tag let out like a groan on the
• 1:57:07
  senator, like the senator's wife, not even the senator, The
• 1:57:10
  senator's wife goes back to like pull him out.
• 1:57:14
  She's just like, what the fuck? Like that guy still alive?
• 1:57:18
  Oh, no, there's nothing we can do now.
• 1:57:19
  See. Oh, he's crawling.
• 1:57:23
  Out of bed? No, let's leave him the.
• 1:57:25
  Plane is going to go up and as well.
• 1:57:26
  OK oh, you got Deirdre, Deirdre come back, he said.
• 1:57:31
  Deirdre, whoever like that's not her name, but she goes back and
• 1:57:33
  she gets. That stereotypical American
• 1:57:36
  name? Deirdre.
• 1:57:37
  I know Deirdre and she, she goes back and she like pulls him out
• 1:57:41
  of the fucking wreckage, which fair play to the center.
• 1:57:43
  Not even his own wife. Not even.
• 1:57:45
  I thought it was the senator, it was his wife.
• 1:57:48
  No, it was his wife went back and fucking got him.
• 1:57:54
  So basically his wife goes by, pulls Ted from the wreckage,
• 1:57:58
  saving his life. So yeah, very fucking another
• 1:58:00
  plane crash. Whatever.
• 1:58:02
  Ted then after he recovered, rolled up his sleeves and came
• 1:58:06
  back to the Senate ready to work.
• 1:58:07
  He had friends in both Democratic and Republican
• 1:58:10
  parties, and people just generally did really love this
• 1:58:13
  guy. Like he was really friendly,
• 1:58:15
  like really nice, down to earth kind man, and he would like he
• 1:58:21
  would make people laugh. Like he was just really
• 1:58:22
  charming. So after his brothers were
• 1:58:25
  killed, it looked like Ted was next in line to make a run for
• 1:58:28
  president. But understandably, Ted was
• 1:58:30
  terrified. He had been quoted to say that
• 1:58:35
  he had a doomed feeling about the prospect.
• 1:58:39
  And quote, I know that I'm going to get my ass shot off someday
• 1:58:43
  and I don't want to, which is absolutely fucking fair.
• 1:58:48
  Either way, summer of 1969 rolls around and Ted's presidential
• 1:58:52
  image is getting some serious heat.
• 1:58:55
  It's looking like a sure thing that he's going to be the front
• 1:58:58
  runner for the upcoming presidential election.
• 1:59:01
  That is, until 1 fateful night. Ted's world comes crashing down
• 1:59:06
  because he just does some fucking stupid shit because he's
• 1:59:08
  a Kennedy as. He's a Kennedy, as he loves to
• 1:59:13
  take a risk. So the day is July 18th, 1969.
• 1:59:18
  Ted and a bunch of friends are in Martha's Vineyard, which is
• 1:59:22
  already fucking. It's still open and stuff to
• 1:59:24
  this day. It's really fancy.
• 1:59:25
  It's like mostly like is Vineyard, but it's mostly like a
• 1:59:28
  bar and restaurant kind of. Hometown where all the well to
• 1:59:33
  do people, all these Harvard guys would have went for their.
• 1:59:36
  Yeah, it's a, it's like a, it's like a ranch, like a getaway
• 1:59:41
  kind of of spot. So Ted was racing in the
• 1:59:47
  Kennedy's family sailboat up time.
• 1:59:51
  They do like a, like a boat race every year.
• 1:59:55
  And they were all racing from there to a different island
• 2:00:01
  called I'm Not Chappaquiddick. Whatever.
• 2:00:06
  It's for a cookout. Whatever.
• 2:00:08
  I don't know. So the day before the party was
• 2:00:13
  thrown like he was all out drinking with a bunch of women
• 2:00:19
  called the Boiler Room Girls. They worked in like kind of like
• 2:00:25
  Bobby's election office, and they were all at the same kind
• 2:00:29
  of like boat party. What do you call that?
• 2:00:32
  Gala, Gala. Whatever.
• 2:00:34
  Gala. Regard again and.
• 2:00:38
  Yeah, these were. Staffers, yeah, for the the
• 2:00:41
  election staffers. And they don't they don't John's
• 2:00:45
  and Bobby's like like a campaign trails.
• 2:00:48
  So, like, they're well in with Kennedy's this stage.
• 2:00:51
  Yeah, and so this this young woman, her name was Mary Jo.
• 2:00:56
  So this is is kind of why, well they claim This is why she would
• 2:01:01
  have been in the car with Ted in the 1st place.
• 2:01:04
  There was no reason she should have been in the car with Ted.
• 2:01:06
  He was a married man. Well, his excuse was that she
• 2:01:10
  wasn't feeling well and he was bringing her back to the ferry
• 2:01:16
  because it was the only way off the ferry.
• 2:01:17
  Was back to her room, yeah, to the hotel.
• 2:01:21
  And so basically, where am I go? According to Ted, Mary Jo had
• 2:01:27
  gotten sick. She was.
• 2:01:28
  He was taking her to the ferry. So she'd go back to her hotel
• 2:01:31
  and sleep it off. The ferry was the only way to
• 2:01:33
  get from now and back to the mainland.
• 2:01:34
  So Ted is driving. He's been drinking and he's
• 2:01:38
  driving. And then at some point, he drove
• 2:01:40
  the car off of the bridge and it landed upside down in the lake.
• 2:01:48
  Yeah, don't. Don't fucking drink and drive.
• 2:01:50
  Anyway, so they're upside down in the lake and with the head
• 2:01:54
  injury, with a head injury like he really did got, he got like
• 2:01:58
  banged up in this accident. He still managed to get out and
• 2:02:01
  swim to the fucking surface, but Mary Jo sadly did not.
• 2:02:06
  According to testimony, Ted said he dived down to the car like 7
• 2:02:11
  or 8 times during a 20 minute period trying to save Mary Jo,
• 2:02:15
  but he could never get to her. So he ends up walking back to
• 2:02:19
  the cottage at like 12:15 that night where two of his closest
• 2:02:24
  friends were saying he goes to the guys and he's basically like
• 2:02:27
  he tells them what happened. And then the three of them go
• 2:02:30
  back to the lake. And then these other guys are
• 2:02:34
  like diving down trying to get her.
• 2:02:37
  And like they basically they're just like, you have to fucking
• 2:02:40
  call the police and tell them what happened.
• 2:02:41
  Like she's she's absolutely dead down there head.
• 2:02:46
  Instead of taking the fucking ferry back to the mainland he
• 2:02:49
  just ends up swimming back to. The he just went full JFK.
• 2:02:56
  He. Just went.
• 2:02:56
  Kennedy's are just fish people like.
• 2:03:00
  Just. Splash, like I have to be alone
• 2:03:03
  with my thoughts and just swims back to the mainland instead of
• 2:03:06
  just getting the fucking ferry swims all the way there, right?
• 2:03:11
  He ends up basically he swims all the way back to to
• 2:03:14
  Edgertown. I don't know what the fuck that
• 2:03:18
  is. So goes back to his hotel,
• 2:03:21
  changes his clothes, and then, I don't know if he slept or
• 2:03:26
  whatever, but he makes it to breakfast the next morning at
• 2:03:30
  7:00 AM. He still hasn't called the cops.
• 2:03:33
  Nothing like that. Then at 7:00 AM, outside the
• 2:03:36
  hotel, Ted runs into a guy who had won the sailboat race the
• 2:03:40
  day before. And he's just like, oh, here's
• 2:03:42
  the boat. Like what?
• 2:03:43
  Just small talk. Just fucking.
• 2:03:44
  Like. Not a care in the world like and
• 2:03:48
  he's like, yeah, like fucking I'll join you for breakfast.
• 2:03:50
  Like all of this just fucking bullshit.
• 2:03:53
  And this poor woman is still like in his fucking car at the
• 2:03:58
  bottom of a lake like so he wears it.
• 2:04:03
  It's not until 10 AM then when Ted actually contacts the local
• 2:04:08
  police, tell him about the car. Mary Jo's body remains stuck in
• 2:04:12
  that car under that fucking murky water for about 10 hours
• 2:04:15
  before she was retrieved. And then the incident, like when
• 2:04:20
  it broke on local news, of course people went fucking
• 2:04:23
  crazy. There were so many questions
• 2:04:25
  like why? Why were they together in the
• 2:04:27
  car in the 1st place? Why did the car go off the road?
• 2:04:30
  What the fuck is Ted hiding? Like, you know, like obviously
• 2:04:33
  he was fucking hiding the fact that he, you know, killed
• 2:04:36
  someone. But and like nobody kind of knew
• 2:04:40
  why he didn't call the cops right away.
• 2:04:43
  But because he was a lawyer, people just assumed not his
• 2:04:47
  obviously because he was drinking his blood alcohol level
• 2:04:50
  would have been like crazy high. So he didn't he didn't want that
• 2:04:54
  to happen. He like, you know what I mean,
• 2:04:56
  obviously wanted to go down before he was like tested and
• 2:05:00
  stuff like that, so he could say that it was something else, but.
• 2:05:03
  He claimed he he had a concussion and his head injury
• 2:05:07
  was the reason why he behaved so weird afterwards.
• 2:05:10
  Yeah. He walked in like literally the
• 2:05:13
  next day with a fucking neck brace.
• 2:05:16
  Like it like, Oh yeah, this girl is like dead in my car at the
• 2:05:21
  bottom of the leg, but I got her to like, with a fucking neck
• 2:05:25
  brace. And anyway, it's giving like
• 2:05:28
  fucking Christopher from The Sopranos.
• 2:05:31
  I didn't, but yeah. So basically he said the road
• 2:05:39
  was unlit, the bridge was narrow.
• 2:05:42
  There happened to be no guardrails.
• 2:05:47
  Yeah, he just came up with every excuse as as to why he drove off
• 2:05:51
  and none of it was that it was alcohol involved.
• 2:05:54
  Yeah, that he was drunk and he was like, I mean, I don't know,
• 2:05:58
  maybe he was genuinely taking her back to the ferry, but he
• 2:06:02
  also shouldn't have fucking been like driving when he was drunk,
• 2:06:06
  like and I think he just kind of freaked out and lost his mind.
• 2:06:10
  I don't think it was necessarily a case of where he was like
• 2:06:14
  shagging her or anything, but like I.
• 2:06:17
  Don't know he's a Kennedy. Let's say the probability that
• 2:06:20
  he was shagging her was probably fairly high.
• 2:06:23
  So Ted then eventually pled guilty to leaving the scene of
• 2:06:26
  an accident and spent zero time in jail even though he wherever
• 2:06:32
  lost my notes. I guess serious, I'm in jail,
• 2:06:36
  blah blah blah. But this did still end any
• 2:06:42
  chance of Ted becoming president.
• 2:06:44
  Which is ironic because all of this happened while Apollo 11
• 2:06:48
  was landing on the moon, basically what John had
• 2:06:51
  promised. Umm And yeah, he did continue on
• 2:06:56
  in the Senate for another 40 years.
• 2:06:59
  Umm, so you can be a murderer and I'm still in the Senate,
• 2:07:03
  which, you know, that's. That's fairness.
• 2:07:05
  To him in the Senate, though, I think a lot of people recite
• 2:07:10
  again, murder, manslaughter, whatever it is, like he should
• 2:07:16
  not like he should have been in jail, but people talk about him
• 2:07:22
  as a senator being pretty like positive for America.
• 2:07:27
  Great. Work like he did and he did pass
• 2:07:30
  some really important laws and stuff like that because he was
• 2:07:33
  like, I mean, I probably not in today's standards by by those
• 2:07:38
  standards. Back then he was very, very
• 2:07:40
  liberal and progressive. So he did do a lot to kind of
• 2:07:44
  help the country. But over the years then more
• 2:07:48
  Kennedy family members were they would experience untimely
• 2:07:52
  deaths. So for example, Bobby, the one
• 2:07:56
  who was assassinated, his son Michael had died at the age of
• 2:07:59
  39 after a skiing accident. JFK son John Junior.
• 2:08:04
  Wouldn't that be John the Third? No, because Joel was the father.
• 2:08:09
  Oh yeah, sorry. Uh, John Junior died in the
• 2:08:14
  plane crash. 19. 99, along with his wife Carolyn.
• 2:08:21
  And her sister as well, I think. And yeah, I think he, he tried
• 2:08:26
  to do a fucking barrel roll on that thing.
• 2:08:29
  I might be, I might be mistaken, but I think, I think he was like
• 2:08:33
  a typical Kennedy. He went up there and they were
• 2:08:35
  like, read the instruments. He's like, I don't need to read,
• 2:08:39
  no instruments. Say it right, Fredchie.
• 2:08:44
  It's it's. Chowder is chowder.
• 2:08:48
  So basically, yeah, you can't kind of deny that the Kennedys
• 2:08:52
  are the, I guess, the American royal.
• 2:08:55
  But you could call and double forget all our FK has a worm in
• 2:09:00
  his brain. Crackhead, an actual crackhead,
• 2:09:05
  and he's speaking out about like, you shouldn't take that at
• 2:09:08
  all because you're going to get all to it.
• 2:09:10
  You smoke crack, my guy. Sugar is killing us.
• 2:09:16
  Crack is not. And.
• 2:09:18
  No, Crack is fine. Sugar is bad.
• 2:09:20
  Tylenol is bad. He also put a bear on a bicycle
• 2:09:24
  and left it in Central Park he literally found a dead bear on.
• 2:09:31
  Road. It's such a Kennedy thing to do
• 2:09:35
  though. Let me try and find the sexy
• 2:09:37
  Kennedy that I was talking about earlier.
• 2:09:39
  I'm just going to Google sexy young Kennedy.
• 2:09:42
  Now, like they're they're the new sexy Kennedy breed.
• 2:09:46
  Yeah, he's like a grandkid. The grandkid of Hood?
• 2:09:50
  Also who? Who did he come from?
• 2:09:52
  I'll find outlet me find out who he is.
• 2:09:58
  Where is he? All in all, All in all, a fairly
• 2:10:05
  tragic family fucking story. Yeah, like pretty fucking crazy.
• 2:10:11
  Like I. Mean I love when.
• 2:10:12
  We do these lovely, happy stories.
• 2:10:16
  I know I know it's it's got like it does have iron claw vibes
• 2:10:23
  though, like I. Yeah.
• 2:10:27
  I do kind of like oh here we go, I found him.
• 2:10:30
  Oh wait no, that's actually John.
• 2:10:33
  Oh John was great, but I coloured GIF of John.
• 2:10:36
  Hello. The Wank Bank.
• 2:10:40
  It's going in the wank bank. He wasn't, it wasn't.
• 2:10:43
  Alright, OK, I think I found him now because he's in GQ.
• 2:10:47
  JFK Junior. JFK Junior.
• 2:10:52
  Yeah, hang on. He's dead.
• 2:10:58
  Let me look at the sexy man. Oh my God.
• 2:11:02
  He's actually gorgeous. Where are we?
• 2:11:06
  Yeah, Kenny Junior, John F Kennedy Junior. 1988 I don't
• 2:11:17
  understand. He died in a car in a plane
• 2:11:20
  crash in 1999. Maybe it's, yeah, maybe I'm like
• 2:11:26
  looking at him back very young. No, but there was another one
• 2:11:29
  who's involved in hang on. They all look so fucking
• 2:11:33
  youthful and I'm like, hang on. This is terrible podcasting.
• 2:11:37
  I don't care. Sexy young Kennedy.
• 2:11:41
  There he is. I don't know why they're giving
• 2:11:43
  me the wrong name. OK, Young Kennedy who is younger
• 2:11:49
  Kennedys are socialized, blah, blah, blah.
• 2:11:52
  Stop bringing me back to John. Oh, he's not a Kennedy.
• 2:11:57
  He's a Schwarzenegger. OK, ignore me.
• 2:12:00
  What the fuck? Oh yeah, didn't Schwarzenegger
• 2:12:03
  Marty into the Kennedys? That's what it is.
• 2:12:07
  It's Jack Schlossberg Kennedy. Yeah, his, his Schwarzenegger,
• 2:12:15
  Mrs. His. Son JK's grandson.
• 2:12:19
  Yeah. Jack Schlossberg.
• 2:12:21
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 2:12:21
  Yeah, yeah, the Schwarzenegger married Kennedy's daughter.
• 2:12:25
  Yeah. And became the governor of
• 2:12:27
  California. The governor, you can't be
• 2:12:33
  racist against another another nationality tonight.
• 2:12:37
  I'm over that. I have to go to bed, OK?
• 2:12:42
  I have to go beat my boyfriend's Dick like a pinata.
• 2:12:47
  You eat pinatas? What the fuck?
• 2:12:51
  Beat my boyfriend's Dick like a. Pinata be it.
• 2:12:54
  Be it. Oh, OK, right.
• 2:12:56
  And very, very good. Very good.
• 2:13:01
  I'm very happy that you've gone South of the border.
• 2:13:07
  Yeah. Yeah, they're a lot less weird
• 2:13:10
  than the the Canadians, than the ones very, very north of the.
• 2:13:14
  Border. Yeah, just.
• 2:13:15
  Fucking Yeti men. I.
• 2:13:17
  Forgot you were you were into Canadians, I'm into Mexicans.
• 2:13:22
  You'll never meet the middle with a with a yank.
• 2:13:24
  I don't discriminate. That's the curse of the
• 2:13:28
  Kennedys, everybody. We can.
• 2:13:31
  We can do a bunch of other candidate like this.
• 2:13:34
  This could be a Kennedy podcast by itself, honestly.
• 2:13:39
  I can definitely get into a bit of a JFK's assassination
• 2:13:42
  conspiracy theories. Next week on hocus pocus, lack
• 2:13:46
  of focus. This is it's very unusual that
• 2:13:52
  you are forcing me to end the podcast, but here.
• 2:13:54
  I have to piss so bad. I've.
• 2:13:57
  Been holding it in for like 20 minutes.
• 2:14:01
  Yeah, I'm sure there's a jar there somewhere with demons name
• 2:14:04
  on it that you've got the piss in that.
• 2:14:06
  We haven't spoken about demons. This week, so next week, right?
• 2:14:12
  That's oh, actually before we, before we go, we do have a
• 2:14:16
  Patreon now. So before we get that up and
• 2:14:21
  running, we're going to have, well, Alex is going to do it
• 2:14:23
  like we're not going to fucking do anything.
• 2:14:25
  Alex is going to run a few polls and stuff of things that you
• 2:14:30
  guys might like to see. So he did bring up a really
• 2:14:33
  funny point of me psychoanalyzing people, which is
• 2:14:35
  not a good idea at all because I will, I will make people kill
• 2:14:38
  themselves. But yeah, it can be anything
• 2:14:44
  from little like side stories, like little mini kind of
• 2:14:47
  episodes that are like 1520 minutes long.
• 2:14:50
  You can do spells, spell tutorials.
• 2:14:53
  I can talk just you through spells, whatever it may be.
• 2:14:58
  Alex will post on the Instagram. So if you're interested in that,
• 2:15:01
  check that out. I wouldn't blame.
• 2:15:04
  You nobody is listening to this for free.
• 2:15:07
  We need. £15 a month each to pay for Airbus Sprout.
• 2:15:13
  So if all three listeners gave 10 lbs, then it doesn't cost us
• 2:15:18
  anybody to do this podcast. Yeah.
• 2:15:23
  So join, join us on Patreon where we will.
• 2:15:28
  We haven't discussed this, but we'll have to put on more
• 2:15:31
  content. Alex will do it.
• 2:15:34
  Alex. This is Alex's little side
• 2:15:37
  question. Right, everybody.
• 2:15:41
  That was the curse of the Kennedys.
• 2:15:43
  I'm sure none of it was as entertaining as we had fun.
• 2:15:48
  Danny's new Mexican. New New Mexican buddy.
• 2:15:57
  Yeah. We.
• 2:15:58
  Just lost all of our male listeners now because I I'm
• 2:16:03
  seeing someone they're like oh fuck this I don't have to
• 2:16:05
  pretend to fake an interest in what she does.
• 2:16:09
  If there's any gay listener still out there.
• 2:16:12
  And probably, yeah. Guys.
• 2:16:15
  Probably have like, gay men, queer women who find me oddly
• 2:16:19
  comforting. Any any gay dudes out there who
• 2:16:23
  are thinking that I'm for the turn, hang in there.
• 2:16:26
  You never know you. Never know.
• 2:16:28
  Never. Say, come on the Patreon, I'll
• 2:16:30
  get gay on Patreon. Love that.
• 2:16:33
  Love that first three people to subscribe to pay, show and get
• 2:16:37
  nudes. It's going to be a little bingo
• 2:16:38
  thing. Can't guarantee they'll be mine,
• 2:16:40
  just he's or Alex he's. We'll just have to wait and see.
• 2:16:44
  Some some Mexican and a pair of ice skates, ladies and
• 2:16:51
  gentlemen. Dip situation.
• 2:16:54
  This has been hocus pocus. What the fuck?
• 2:16:58
  This has been hocus pocus. Lack of focus.
• 2:17:05
  Next week, full Spanish episodes.
• 2:17:08
  I've been just the she's been. Danny, thanks for hanging out
• 2:17:12
  with us for a spell. Next week, JFK.
• 2:17:19
  I don't know how to hang up on this.