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2026 NBA Draft Preview with Tyler Metcalf · The Favorites Sports Betting Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites presented by DraftKings.
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  Speaker 2: The Crown is yours. Back at it for the third
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  Speaker 2: time this week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host Brandon Kravitz, back at it with the
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  Speaker 1: first Lady of the Pod, Kendrim Middleton, the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 1: of DJEN Nation. Stucky is back in the cut as well.
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  Speaker 1: We have a conversation to get to with Tyler Metcalf
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  Speaker 1: from No Ceilings NBA talking mock drafts and what we
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  Speaker 1: can expect to see come.
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  Speaker 2: Tuesday's NBA drafts.
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  Speaker 1: We had some shenanigans play out with the New York
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  Speaker 1: Knicks and their parade. Do we have an update on
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  Speaker 1: how our producer Gifford Gold. You guys can't see he's
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  Speaker 1: in the background of our episodes, but an important cog
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  Speaker 1: to the Wheel tried to He's not on because he
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  Speaker 1: tried to go to the parade yesterday and I think
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  Speaker 1: he's still trying to make his way back.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm assuming that Gifford took a day of PTO
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  Speaker 3: for this. But I checked in with him and I said, Gifford,
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  Speaker 3: did you get into this parade? And his response was
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  Speaker 3: just not even close to which I followed up what happened,
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  Speaker 3: and he's been typing for five minutes and has said nothing.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm assuming I'm about to get a novel about
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  Speaker 3: whatever has happened in New York City. So when I
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  Speaker 3: get it. If I get it, I will update you guys.
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  Speaker 3: He is still typing. I sent this a Yeah, he's
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  Speaker 3: been typing for ten minutes.
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  Speaker 2: Now ten minutes. I don't think he's been typing for
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  Speaker 2: ten minutes.
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  Speaker 3: I sent the first one. I know.
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  Speaker 1: How the bubble technology works, like do you actually have
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  Speaker 1: to be typing or or do you just need the
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  Speaker 1: app up on your phone?
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  Speaker 3: Okay, he goes, I.
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  Speaker 4: Just want to ask you a question. I always wonder
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  Speaker 4: that too.
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  Speaker 3: It actually, if you're typing, it's as long as you
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  Speaker 3: have like the bubble up. If you pull it down,
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  Speaker 3: then it doesn't show you're typing. Does that make sense? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I actually know this answer, He goes. I just went
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  Speaker 3: into the area for a bit to be around. But
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  Speaker 3: before I even left, the viewing area's rack capacity. I'm
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  Speaker 3: getting back now. I'm assuming that means to his house.
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  Speaker 2: Just give up, just give up, KEIV, like what everyone did.
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  Speaker 1: We we've been we've been sort of ping ponging vacations
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  Speaker 1: here on the Favorites the last couple of weeks. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to getting back to this before we
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  Speaker 1: get to our NBA Draft discussion with Tyler Metcalf.
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  Speaker 2: Stucky, you got a question for us. Hey, this is
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  Speaker 2: a dumb question.
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  Speaker 4: Let me ask you a personal question kind.
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  Speaker 2: Of question is that this question?
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  Speaker 5: Let's go with if you got arrested. So popped up
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  Speaker 5: on the local news that you were arrested. So it
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  Speaker 5: said Brandon Kravitz was arrested, Kendrick Middleton was arrested. That's
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  Speaker 5: all it said. Stucky was arrested. What would your family
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  Speaker 5: and friends assume was the reason? So if they had
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  Speaker 5: a guess, Yes, those closest to you, Hey, Brandon got arrested.
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  Speaker 4: We don't know why yet. What do you why do
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  Speaker 4: you think he got arrested?
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  Speaker 1: Uh?
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  Speaker 4: What do you think would be their first thought?
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  Speaker 5: Mine's easy, it would be something betting related, especially since
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  Speaker 5: my mom. We're gonna ask the closest. My mom still
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  Speaker 5: thinks like when I left my finance career to start action,
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  Speaker 5: my mom thought and still thinks that I'm an a
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  Speaker 5: legal bookie like she just it's just she can't grasp
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  Speaker 5: that like do sports betting content and uh so like
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  Speaker 5: every once in a while, so just ask like am
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  Speaker 5: I am I in trouble or am I still good?
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  Speaker 4: So like she still thinks I just left.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, don't give me it. Don't give me any
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  Speaker 1: information on this. I just need to know you're healthy.
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  Speaker 5: So like her, basically, her viewpoint of the of the
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  Speaker 5: betting world is just like illegal stuff and people and
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  Speaker 5: you're just a bookie and then that's that's it. That's
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  Speaker 5: like the only job you can have in betting is
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  Speaker 5: you're a bookie. So ah, my mom would certainly think
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  Speaker 5: that I got arrested for a legal book making and
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  Speaker 5: she would be like, I knew it this while I
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  Speaker 5: knew you should have never gone into this industry. So
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  Speaker 5: that's what my mom would have thought. Brandon, how about
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  Speaker 5: you you have a did you ever first.
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  Speaker 1: Got I think it would be I think it would
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  Speaker 1: be theft, something I've been paranoid about for years. I
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  Speaker 1: probably shuldn't even admit on the podcast. We'll just go
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  Speaker 1: ahead and do it. Anyway, this happened, I mean this
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  Speaker 1: had to be. It was as well, over fifteen years.
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  Speaker 5: You and your friend used to rob what a little
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  Speaker 5: at the What were those things you used to steal
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  Speaker 5: for fun?
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  Speaker 2: Oh the little Nautica tags?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, Well so this involves theft too, So I
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  Speaker 1: guess theft would be the If we just said just
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  Speaker 1: just a general theme of what would you'd be arrested for,
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  Speaker 1: I guess it would be theft. I'm not a cleptomaniac,
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  Speaker 1: but I pulled up to a bank ATM once and
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  Speaker 1: it said on the drive through, would you like to
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  Speaker 1: make another transaction? And I was a broke college student
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  Speaker 1: at the time. This was over fifteen years ago. I've
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  Speaker 1: been in media for fifteen years, so this was like
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  Speaker 1: twenty years ago, and it said, would you like to
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  Speaker 1: make another transaction? I had no money to my name,
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  Speaker 1: so I said yes, and then I hit the I
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  Speaker 1: wanted the balance inquiry to know if I was going
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  Speaker 1: to take any funds if this person and this person
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  Speaker 1: was doing very well for themselves. So I took one
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  Speaker 1: hundred dollars out of the bank. Okay, I don't feel
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  Speaker 1: good about it. I've been paranoid about it ever since.
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  Speaker 1: I there's a little part of me that thinks that
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  Speaker 1: to this day, they are going to lock me up
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  Speaker 1: for this.
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  Speaker 5: I have a funny story about ATMs I was in
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  Speaker 5: I was probably like eighteen or nineteen, and I was
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  Speaker 5: in Atlantic City with a bunch of my friends and
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  Speaker 5: we were at the casino and we were just betting.
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  Speaker 5: We were playing like Roulade and just a bunch of nonsense.
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  Speaker 5: And one of my friends went over to the ATM
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  Speaker 5: and it was just spitting out that you would take
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  Speaker 5: out like a hundred and then it would just give
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  Speaker 5: you I think, I forget the amounts it. We'd give
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  Speaker 5: you like five times the amount.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 4: So they I didn't have my debit card.
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  Speaker 5: I just brought a bunch of cash that I was like,
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  Speaker 5: this is what I'm coming, I'm gonna gamble with.
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  Speaker 4: So I didn't have my debit card.
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  Speaker 5: I was so pissed and so jealous, and they just
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  Speaker 5: kept going and taking out money. And this is like
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  Speaker 5: the worst possible thing that can happen if if there
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  Speaker 5: are repercussions because you're taking out money and then just
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  Speaker 5: you're sitting in a casino floor thinking you're with free money.
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  Speaker 5: So the line ended up being massive before they caught
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  Speaker 5: on and shut it down. What ended up happening is
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  Speaker 5: they blew all this money betting and then the bank
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  Speaker 5: reversed all of it, and then a lot of them
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  Speaker 5: got like charged like overdraft fees and they lost double
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  Speaker 5: their Yeah, they lost it. And then they just had
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  Speaker 5: the money thinking it was free, and then just blew
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  Speaker 5: it on and roulette, so it ended up being a nightmare.
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  Speaker 5: I was so relieved that I didn't have my debit card,
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  Speaker 5: but when you know, I had a couple of drinks
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  Speaker 5: and I was like, and everyone is just taking out
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  Speaker 5: free money on the casino floor and I didn't bring
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  Speaker 5: my debit card. I'm like, this is awful, but I'm
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  Speaker 5: so happy that I didn't have it. Then, So yeah,
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  Speaker 5: they there's no free lunches, just a temper.
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  Speaker 1: A house always wins, don't steal from banks. I'm surprised
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  Speaker 1: that I got away from it. Can I guess Kendra's
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  Speaker 1: I was.
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  Speaker 3: Gonna make you guys guess because for me, this is easy.
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  Speaker 3: But I want to know what you guys think.
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  Speaker 1: I'm thinking like some protesting something protests could definitely be it.
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  Speaker 2: Like there's like I.
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  Speaker 5: Pushed a cop who was trying to subdue her. Protesting
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  Speaker 5: like shrimp writes or something.
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  Speaker 1: An exotic animal adoption facility that doesn't handle their business right,
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  Speaker 1: and she just goes in and steals.
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  Speaker 3: I was literally going to say, I think that this
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  Speaker 3: is the easiest thing ever. It would be domesticating an
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  Speaker 3: animal that I'm not a out to in Massachusetts, or
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  Speaker 3: for boarding animals of some sort, ding ding ding winner.
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  Speaker 3: That's exactly what I was going to say, easiest question
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  Speaker 3: of all time. Protesting also true, but I do leave
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  Speaker 3: my phone at home when I go to protest so
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  Speaker 3: that I can't be tracked. Also update on Gifford.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't get into.
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  Speaker 3: The pariode, so he straight up fucking went home.
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  Speaker 4: Amazing.
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  Speaker 2: Come on, where's the stick to itiveness? Gifford?
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  Speaker 6: Hey, guys, good to be with you.
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  Speaker 2: This is an exciting time of year.
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  Speaker 1: This is a draft class that I'm sure you have
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  Speaker 1: been waiting for and breaking down for quite some time.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think it lives up to the billing?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, it has every chance to be one of the
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  Speaker 6: historically special draft classes, and the top three guys AJ,
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  Speaker 6: Darren Cam everyone knows about them at this point. But
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  Speaker 6: then just the amount of point guard talent, the big depth,
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  Speaker 6: like there's real legitimate talent one through thirty. Second round
• 10:01
  Speaker 6: obviously falls off a little bit like it always does,
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  Speaker 6: but there are a lot of seniors who are going
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  Speaker 6: to be able to make an impact and you know,
• 10:08
  Speaker 6: provide some value in that range as well. So I
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  Speaker 6: know it feels a little weird this being like the
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  Speaker 6: smallest early entry pool we've ever had in the NBA Draft,
• 10:18
  Speaker 6: but there is so so much talent here.
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  Speaker 1: Before we go deeper down the board, I got to
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  Speaker 1: know where you land on the great debate at the
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  Speaker 1: top AJ DEBONSA Darren Peterson, Which side do you land
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  Speaker 1: on as far as who you like better, not necessarily
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  Speaker 1: who gets drafted first.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, And I have all three of those guys in
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  Speaker 6: the same tier, you know, I think they're very good
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  Speaker 6: arguments for all three. I've had Darren at one all year.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to move off that. He's one of
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  Speaker 6: the best guard prospects I've ever scouted since I've been
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  Speaker 6: doing this, and I would be very, very, very excited
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  Speaker 6: to build my franchise around him.
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  Speaker 3: If you had to compare kind of the hype of
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  Speaker 3: this draft class to a draft class prior, who would
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  Speaker 3: you shout out?
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  Speaker 6: And in totality it does kind of feel like the
• 11:03
  Speaker 6: Wimby Draft a little bit. Now. Wimby carried a lot
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  Speaker 6: of that hype, but there was a lot of excitement
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  Speaker 6: with Brandon Miller with Scoot Henderson. Scoots gotten off to
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  Speaker 6: a little bit slower of a start than those other
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  Speaker 6: two and especially Wemby obviously, But like when we look
• 11:19
  Speaker 6: at like a big three and it it feels a
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  Speaker 6: lot like that. It feels a lot like how people
• 11:24
  Speaker 6: were trying to build up the Kate Cunningham, Evan Mobley,
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  Speaker 6: Jalen Green trio. Who you know, we were really excited
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  Speaker 6: about those, you know, top three guys, not quite to
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  Speaker 6: this extent, but pretty similar.
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  Speaker 3: I know we're going to move down the board, but
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  Speaker 3: I want to stick to kind of these top three
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  Speaker 3: guys for a second. Who would you say is the
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  Speaker 3: safest bed to become a superstar and who has the
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  Speaker 3: biggest bust risk?
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  Speaker 6: Safeest bed is Cam Boozer. The guy just thinks the
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  Speaker 6: game differently, and he's so so smart on both ends
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  Speaker 6: of the floor. And he's a six nine and fifty
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  Speaker 6: pound point guard basically just like when you look at
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  Speaker 6: his usage, his scoring load, and like his playmaking responsibilities
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  Speaker 6: at Duke last year, he's basically their point guard. If
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  Speaker 6: you take him off that Duke team, they're pretty awful.
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  Speaker 6: Biggest bust potential, I mean, I don't think any of
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  Speaker 6: these guys are going to flat out bust necessarily, But
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  Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of variance with aj Debonsa.
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  Speaker 6: Does he continue to grow as a playmaker? He did
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  Speaker 6: this year at BYU, but there's still a lot of
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  Speaker 6: work to be done there. Does the outside shot continue
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  Speaker 6: to improve and get a little more consistent of a
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  Speaker 6: weapon for him? He has to continue to get more
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  Speaker 6: of an arc on it. I think he does, or
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  Speaker 6: I think he will, but we still have to see it.
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  Speaker 6: And then the defense with him super super inconsistent when
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  Speaker 6: it's right, he looks incredible, has all the tools, but
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  Speaker 6: has to clean up a lot of really bad habits
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  Speaker 6: on that end.
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  Speaker 3: Were you surprised that Debonza chose BYU. I was definitely
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  Speaker 3: one of the people who was a little surprised, not
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  Speaker 3: just from kind of a development perspective, but when you're
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  Speaker 3: a young kid who's going to be making all this
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  Speaker 3: nil money, who the hell wants to go play in
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  Speaker 3: Utah with the Mormons. No offense to any Mormons out there,
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  Speaker 3: I just was super surprised when this was the hat
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  Speaker 3: that he decided to wear. Do you think that that
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  Speaker 3: helped or hindered him? Were you surprised. I just think
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  Speaker 3: that his development could have had a little bit higher
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  Speaker 3: of a projection had he gone somewhere else.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, I wasn't totally shocked, just because there were
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  Speaker 6: so many links, especially once he transferred out to Utah
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  Speaker 6: Prep from Prolific, and you know, the Jazz owner has
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  Speaker 6: basically been funding that BYU NIL collective rather aggressively these
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  Speaker 6: last couple of years. So he got rewarded handsomely for
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  Speaker 6: that decision, and he got to go into a spit
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  Speaker 6: to a program who had coaches with NBA experience and
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  Speaker 6: NBA ties and be really right up close for one
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  Speaker 6: of the teams that he expected to potentially have that
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  Speaker 6: first pick with the Utah Jazz. So I think there
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  Speaker 6: are a lot of connections there, obviously the Angels going
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  Speaker 6: back to you know, AJ grew up around Boston and
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  Speaker 6: the Angels were in Boston forever, So I think there
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  Speaker 6: were a lot of ties. There's a lot of incentives
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  Speaker 6: for AJ to make that move, and he got to
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  Speaker 6: go into a system that does mirror a lot of
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  Speaker 6: what NBA teams run with coaches who have NBA experience.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that b be WAYU staff is certainly sharp and
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  Speaker 5: they they definitely have a war chest. But I'm going
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  Speaker 5: to talk move a little bit down the board and
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  Speaker 5: talk about some guards. Darius a Cuff, he's plus one
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  Speaker 5: point thirty to go past the sixth pick. His his
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  Speaker 5: scoring prowess just is undeniable, but his defense leaves a
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  Speaker 5: lot to be desired. It's been picked apart a ton
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  Speaker 5: and rightfully, so curious your thoughts on a Cuff and
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  Speaker 5: whether the concerns they.
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  Speaker 4: Are are legit.
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  Speaker 6: If you're taking the optimistic view, it's hey, he had
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  Speaker 6: to do everything on offense. He was the engine that
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  Speaker 6: drove everything. So there's only so much energy that he
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  Speaker 6: can expend throughout a game, and that was all diverted
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  Speaker 6: towards the offensive end. And if he got in foul trouble,
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  Speaker 6: their offense was rough when he was off the court,
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  Speaker 6: So it's like, all right, savior, energy for offense, don't
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  Speaker 6: get in foul trouble. And that resulted in some pretty
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  Speaker 6: awful defense. Now, if you're taking a little more pessimistic view,
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  Speaker 6: which I lean a little more towards, especially on the
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  Speaker 6: defensive end, he's just a bad defender. Like the technique
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  Speaker 6: isn't great. He dies on screens, you know, he has
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  Speaker 6: some of the tools where it's like, oh maybe if
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  Speaker 6: we're if everything goes right and he really commits to
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  Speaker 6: that end of the floor, he can at least be
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  Speaker 6: a competent defender. I don't quite see it. I feel
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  Speaker 6: like we've never really seen that consistently from him, even
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  Speaker 6: going back to high school. But I think he might
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  Speaker 6: be one of these rare guys where the offense is
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  Speaker 6: just so good that it doesn't matter, Like you're not
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  Speaker 6: drafting Darius Acuff to be a point of a tech
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  Speaker 6: defender if he can just get to a point where
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  Speaker 6: he's not a massive negative on that end of the floor.
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  Speaker 6: The offense was so so good at Arkansas this year,
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  Speaker 6: between the three level scoring, the playmaking, the ball security,
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  Speaker 6: the playmaking volume, the outside shooting both on and off ball.
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  Speaker 6: It was really really impressive of what he did this year,
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  Speaker 6: which I was not expecting at all.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm curious to see if you can get to
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  Speaker 5: just a satisfactory level because he was on that in
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  Speaker 5: the Floyda' is a massive liability at the college level,
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  Speaker 5: so I mean, when you're talking about the NBA level,
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  Speaker 5: that could be a bit of a nightmare. Also, Kingston Flemings.
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  Speaker 5: He was consistently, I believe, mocked in the top five
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  Speaker 5: for a while, he slid a bit. Curious to get
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  Speaker 5: your thoughts on him and where his stock stands as
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  Speaker 5: of now.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: It seems like everyone loves the person, just like the leadership,
• 16:47
  Speaker 6: the intangibles, the mentality, the willingness to be coached and
• 16:51
  Speaker 6: be better supermature kid. But it also kind of sounds
• 16:54
  Speaker 6: like everyone I keep asking is like, which one of
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: these point guards is going to fall because you know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 6: not tumble down the board, but slip out of like
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: that potential top ten range. Because we're not going to
• 17:03
  Speaker 6: get a run of five straight point guards. Someone's going
• 17:05
  Speaker 6: to break it up. Someone's going to fall down a
• 17:07
  Speaker 6: couple spots, and I think it could be Kingston Fleming's.
• 17:11
  Speaker 6: And I think there's a lot of questions about his
• 17:14
  Speaker 6: scoring capabilities and scoring versatility and shooting. The raw percentage
• 17:19
  Speaker 6: was solid, the free throw numbers were good, but it
• 17:22
  Speaker 6: was really low volume. The form is funky, and if
• 17:24
  Speaker 6: he can't shoot it from outside, that's just going to
• 17:27
  Speaker 6: allow defenders to go under screens and take away that
• 17:29
  Speaker 6: superpower of his which is getting downhill, rising up in
• 17:32
  Speaker 6: the mid range. And then which what makes matters even
• 17:35
  Speaker 6: a little more confusing is that he was really didn't
• 17:38
  Speaker 6: get to the rim as much as you would expect
• 17:39
  Speaker 6: for someone who's as quick as he was. So there's
• 17:43
  Speaker 6: a lot to love on defense. Really smart, dynamic playmaker.
• 17:47
  Speaker 6: If you buy the shot, then I think he could
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: be a massive steal if he slips past you know, eight, nine,
• 17:52
  Speaker 6: ten range. But he's still going to have to prove
• 17:55
  Speaker 6: that he can shoot it from outside or get to
• 17:57
  Speaker 6: the rim a little more consistently because at the NBA level,
• 18:01
  Speaker 6: he's just not going to be able to live in
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: the mid range like he did at Houston this year.
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and lastly, MIKEL.
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: Brown, he's I believe I've seen some rumblings that then
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: he's linked to the Nets. And I was speaking with
• 18:16
  Speaker 5: my colleague, you're familiar with Matt Moore, who said, are
• 18:20
  Speaker 5: the Nets really going to draft another guard? What are
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: your thoughts on Brown and his potential landing spot.
• 18:27
  Speaker 4: With the Nets?
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: Who, by the way, who's going to become a Nets fan?
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Now?
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: I mean over then, how are you ever going to?
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: The Nets? Are so bad? The Nicks just want to
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: check out the Nets? Going to ever? Get a new fan.
• 18:38
  Speaker 6: They won't, but you know that's not my problem. I
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: love Michael. I think he's the best point guard in
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: this class, at least as like as an NBA prospect.
• 18:50
  Speaker 6: Darius A. Cuff had the best season. I think Michael
• 18:53
  Speaker 6: Brown is the best point guard prospect in this draft.
• 18:56
  Speaker 6: Love the size, the athleticism. I think he's going to
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: get a lot stronger, which is going to improve so
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: much of his game. He has to clean up the
• 19:03
  Speaker 6: decision making, both the turnovers and shot selection. But the
• 19:07
  Speaker 6: guy's a nasty shooter, legit athlete, has some real serious
• 19:10
  Speaker 6: vertical pop three level score really good around the rim
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: and drew a ton of fouls around the rim as well,
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: which was the big concern with him coming into the year.
• 19:20
  Speaker 6: And if I'm the nut time taking the best player
• 19:22
  Speaker 6: on my board, whoever's there, I'm not worried about taking
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: another guard, you know, bet Ben Sarah, if Nolan, Treyri.
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: They showed some flashes. Yegor Demon had a really good year,
• 19:32
  Speaker 6: but I think he can be pivoted more into like
• 19:34
  Speaker 6: a secondary creator wing role where you can because of
• 19:38
  Speaker 6: how much the shot improved this last year. So and
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: I think Mikel Brown is someone who can fit in
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: really easily at that point guard spot because he can
• 19:46
  Speaker 6: play it off the ball as well. So you have
• 19:48
  Speaker 6: a really fun kind of like two man creation between
• 19:52
  Speaker 6: those two.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I was definitely gonna say that. He's certainly versatile
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: with his with a shot making ability.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: It seems like in the NFL it's a little bit
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: more actionary too. When you see something go well, that's
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: not the norm, immediately teams pivot their draft strategy. Like
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: I think about Russell Wilson being successful as a shorter
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: two sport athlete and then all of a sudden, Kyler
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Murray gets pushed up to the number one overall pick
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: in his draft.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: We don't see that as much. It seems like NBA.
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: Scouts and gms are a little bit more composed and
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: just this guy was a freaking high school good for
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: a year in college.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: Let's draft him. But I wonder if I.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Say all of that to say, Jalen Brunson just won
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: NBA Finals MVP. He's not known for his defense. He's
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: known for his sensational offense, his clutch ability. It sounds
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: a lot like Darius Acuff. Do you think Brunson's run
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: with the Knicks can help the view of a Darius Acuff.
• 20:49
  Speaker 6: Certainly can't hurt. But one of the things I've struggled
• 20:52
  Speaker 6: with with this guard class is looking at what the
• 20:56
  Speaker 6: NBA values, what consistently works in the NBA and versus
• 21:01
  Speaker 6: who had the best year in college, and by far
• 21:02
  Speaker 6: the guys who had the best year in college are
• 21:04
  Speaker 6: these point guards. The problem is is that a lot
• 21:07
  Speaker 6: of them don't have the size and physicality that we
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: see from most point guards who make deep runs in
• 21:13
  Speaker 6: the playoffs, like Jalen Brunson is incredible. I also think
• 21:17
  Speaker 6: he's the outlier and not the rule. And I think
• 21:19
  Speaker 6: if you start trying to draft for the outlier versus
• 21:21
  Speaker 6: the rule, you're going to get in a lot of
• 21:23
  Speaker 6: trouble and start overdrafting guys. So I'm not saying that
• 21:26
  Speaker 6: Darius Acuff can't get to that level, but if that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 6: your expectation, I think it's good. It makes team building
• 21:33
  Speaker 6: really really difficult, and you can put yourself in a
• 21:36
  Speaker 6: lot of trouble because you the way that the different
• 21:40
  Speaker 6: paths that you give yourself in terms of team construction
• 21:43
  Speaker 6: gets so much narrower because you have to insulate him
• 21:46
  Speaker 6: on the defensive end of the floor. Jalen Brunson is
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: not a good defender, but he got to a point
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: this year where he could at least hold his own
• 21:52
  Speaker 6: and use that strength, use that physicality, use that IQ
• 21:56
  Speaker 6: to get there. And it's taken him a long time.
• 21:58
  Speaker 6: It took him multiple years in college, took multiple years
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: in the pros. And Darius Acuff, for as good as
• 22:03
  Speaker 6: he is on offense, he's so so far away from
• 22:05
  Speaker 6: that on defense. So I get the intrigue. I have
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson down as like a ninety ninth percentile outcome
• 22:13
  Speaker 6: comp for Darius Acuff. But that's pie in the sky dreaming.
• 22:18
  Speaker 6: So if you're that excited about Acuff, I see the vision,
• 22:22
  Speaker 6: But I think you're if you're expecting that to be
• 22:24
  Speaker 6: the expectation, I think you're going to get yourself in trouble.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Brunson was also a second round pick, so hell
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: of a value there.
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, chances sorry, Acuff's not going to end up in
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: a spot where like Brunson, where his defense isn't a
• 22:37
  Speaker 5: requirement based on the personnel that's around him.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: So it could be just so much more of a
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: glaring hole based on where he is.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: He also got to grow as a sixth man option
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: and a Cuff is going to be a star. And
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: it seems like the rumor that I'm seeing is that
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: it's not just me that everyone is seeing, is that
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: he's going to end up in Sacramento. Is there a
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: rumor and maybe that's the one that in that top
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: ten range that has just been so strong in the
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks that you'd be shocked if it
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: didn't happen.
• 23:09
  Speaker 6: That does seem to be his floor. I've heard interests
• 23:13
  Speaker 6: that I've heard that the Clippers like him. I've we're
• 23:16
  Speaker 6: starting to hear that the Clippers seem to like everybody now,
• 23:19
  Speaker 6: so I think they just kind of want to trade
• 23:20
  Speaker 6: out of five. But I've also heard heard that the
• 23:24
  Speaker 6: Nuts like him so and we know that Sacramento has
• 23:27
  Speaker 6: loved him going back to January. So I would be
• 23:29
  Speaker 6: surprised if he fell further than seven. Whether or not
• 23:33
  Speaker 6: a team jumps into the five or six to go
• 23:36
  Speaker 6: grab him, that's a different story, But I would be
• 23:39
  Speaker 6: really shocked if he fell past past Sacramento.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: To you, is there anybody in this draft that isn't
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: getting the hype that they deserve or that you could
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: see becoming like an absolute superstar that just isn't getting
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: the love from the media.
• 23:53
  Speaker 6: I don't know about quite superstar, but I love Mares
• 23:57
  Speaker 6: Johnson from Michigan. I think he is significantly underrated. I
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: have him as a top ten guy, and I kind
• 24:04
  Speaker 6: of just keep consistently seeing him mocked in like the
• 24:06
  Speaker 6: late teens. Everyone in the league I talk to is
• 24:10
  Speaker 6: a huge fan of the kid of the player, Insane
• 24:14
  Speaker 6: rebounder on both ends of the floor, super versatile and
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: physical defender, and we're seeing his offensive game grow so
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: dramatically and a very short amount of time. First time
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: I saw him was at Nike Hoop Summit when he
• 24:26
  Speaker 6: was finishing up his senior year in high school, and
• 24:28
  Speaker 6: I was like, this dude can't dribble, he can't shoot.
• 24:30
  Speaker 6: He like everything on offense is fast. It's like, this
• 24:34
  Speaker 6: guy's never going to play in the pros, enjoy four
• 24:37
  Speaker 6: years in college. And now we're seeing him start to
• 24:39
  Speaker 6: space the floor and they're really encouraging passing flashes and
• 24:43
  Speaker 6: the game with or his interior finishing is slowing down
• 24:47
  Speaker 6: so much in terms of processing and rushing stuff, so
• 24:50
  Speaker 6: I think he's barely scratching the surface on the offensive
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: end of the floor, and I think they're very, very realistic,
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: like Al Horford type of high end outcomes with him.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: I want to follow up on your comment about watching
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: him since high school. Do you think are you in
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: the camp that the whole AAU these kids are getting
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: developed by the time they're basically able to walk. Do
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: you think that that's helping or hurting the state of basketball?
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Just because it seems like there isn't so much of
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: the recruitment style of the kids playing shirts and skins
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: at their local YMCA, but it's all of this AAU
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: development crap that's going on now. Do you think that
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that's helping the current state of basketball or hurting the
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: current state of basketball? Because it's like you have to
• 25:29
  Speaker 3: have a trainer by the time you're old enough to
• 25:31
  Speaker 3: walk to even be considered to play college basketball.
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: Now, I think in totality it is probably hurting it. Obviously,
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: there are a lot of really good coaches and programs
• 25:40
  Speaker 6: and trainers and stuff out there, so I'm not trying
• 25:43
  Speaker 6: to denegrate everyone, but in totality, I think this hyper
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: focus on specialization and very specific skill training against cones
• 25:53
  Speaker 6: and very specific drills is limiting guys and increasing injuries
• 25:58
  Speaker 6: because guys are continuing to execute just like the exact
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: same movements over and over and over and over again,
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: as opposed to like when I was growing up, everyone's
• 26:06
  Speaker 6: playing multiple sports and you're getting You're developing hand eye
• 26:10
  Speaker 6: coordination through baseball and death perception through football, and you
• 26:14
  Speaker 6: know all these other kinds of things, and you're teaching
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: your body to move and react in different ways. So
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: I'm with you that that lack of just like just
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: go out and play it also just is teaching these kids.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: It's like, Okay, well I have option one, I have
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: option two, I have option three, and if none of
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: those are available, I'm screwed because I don't know how
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: to think and flow and react and just kind of
• 26:39
  Speaker 6: play the game. And a lot of these guys are
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: way too busy just trying to think it instead of
• 26:43
  Speaker 6: flowing through stuff. So in one sense, the individual skill
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: is way higher than it's ever been, but that ability
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: to just go play and improvise, I do think is
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: getting a little more restricted again in totality.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, do you also think it's like prohibiting, you know,
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: kind of. I know that my family's dealing with this
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: with their kids in soccer, but you basically have to
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: have a side hustle to put your kids through sports too,
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: So it almost feels like that's something that's also prohibiting
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: maybe some talent that we could be seeing come through
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: the system.
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm just the astronomical expenses associated with, like you,
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: sports in general is insane to me. I'm like, historically,
• 27:27
  Speaker 6: like you're saying, with soccer, I grew up playing soccer
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: as well, and it was like one hundred bucks feet
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: or whatever for jerseys and like the coach for their time,
• 27:36
  Speaker 6: and now it's like thousands of dollars and it's like,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: what are we doing and the fact that you have
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: to do this with these AAU teams and support all
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: of these travel expenses and trainers and these coaches are
• 27:48
  Speaker 6: turning it into their full time job, where some of
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: them are awesome and some of them are doing a
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: great job of getting these guys ready for college and
• 27:56
  Speaker 6: potentially the pros, but a lot of them are just
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: kind of grifting and trying to figure out that they're
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: discerning between the two is a lot more difficult.
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: If your kid is so special keep paying me.
• 28:08
  Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly, And I think a lot of the literature
• 28:11
  Speaker 5: out there says basically says, have your kids have the kids.
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: I end up being in the best spot by playing
• 28:16
  Speaker 5: a lot of sports and then later on in life
• 28:19
  Speaker 5: specializing with the exception of potentially soccer, where like you, actually,
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: I think you benefit from like the full work if
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: you specialized really early, which might be one of the
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: reasons why the US will always be consistently behind unless
• 28:30
  Speaker 5: we like focus more on specialization there.
• 28:32
  Speaker 4: But I completely agree with everything he said.
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: But I do want to talk about another Michigan big
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: in a day, Mara, what are you hearing there? What's
• 28:39
  Speaker 5: the highest you could see him going? Matt was telling
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: me one personnel scout told him he doesn't see him
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: dropping past the top six, which I thought would have
• 28:48
  Speaker 5: been pretty crazy, especially based on discussions and mocks like
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: you know a couple months ago.
• 28:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've heard that the Nets have some interest. I
• 28:59
  Speaker 6: don't think quite it. You know, we've heard the Hawks
• 29:02
  Speaker 6: have some potential interest at eight. I don't think as
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: like their number one option. I would expect him to
• 29:07
  Speaker 6: probably go late lottery more in like that ten to
• 29:10
  Speaker 6: fourteen range. He's he's really tricky because what he did
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: at Michigan this year was incredible. In a couple of
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: years ago when he came over from Spain, some people
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: out there were like, this is going to be the
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: number one pick. This guy's incredible. And then he spent
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: the next two years at UCLA doing absolutely nothing, where
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: he could barely get on the court. He was unserious,
• 29:30
  Speaker 6: he was immature, he was just kind of screwing around,
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: not taking basketball seriously, and then goes to Michigan and
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: Dusty May gets the absolute best out of him. So
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: I think there's some hesitation of like, all right, who
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: are we getting. Are we getting the UCLA guy who's
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: not taking any of the seriously and now that he's
• 29:46
  Speaker 6: had some success, he's just going to kind of fall
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: back on his laurels and be like, no, I'm good,
• 29:50
  Speaker 6: I don't need to put the work in again. Or
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: are we getting the rejuvenated, re energized version that we
• 29:56
  Speaker 6: saw at Michigan, where he was one of the best
• 29:57
  Speaker 6: room protectors and one of the most creative pass especially
• 30:00
  Speaker 6: from the center spot, who grew a ton as a
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: post scorer and rebounder. On both ends of the floor.
• 30:05
  Speaker 6: So it's a big wildcard. But at the end of
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: the day, those guys that big and that skilled don't fall.
• 30:13
  Speaker 6: So like when I say like, yeah, you might fall
• 30:15
  Speaker 6: a little, it's to like twelve, thirteen, fourteen at like
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: the latest like that that kind of range, because you
• 30:21
  Speaker 6: can't teach size and that dude is massive.
• 30:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, don't don't come around too often. Now, we talked about,
• 30:27
  Speaker 5: you know, you have the obvious top three. There's a
• 30:31
  Speaker 5: very promising group of point guards. We talked about some
• 30:34
  Speaker 5: bigs this, which is what makes this draft exciting.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: But if you were to.
• 30:39
  Speaker 5: When I look at as someone who follows college basketball
• 30:42
  Speaker 5: or a lot more close closely than NBA, I don't
• 30:47
  Speaker 5: see too many Now this is normally the case, I'd
• 30:49
  Speaker 5: imagine I don't see too many guys worth getting that
• 30:52
  Speaker 5: excited about, like later in the first round. So if
• 30:54
  Speaker 5: you were to like Tier, maybe there is a guy
• 30:57
  Speaker 5: that you want to mention. But if you were like
• 30:58
  Speaker 5: to Tier, this draft left as far as like, okay,
• 31:01
  Speaker 5: you have the top three, then what and then where's
• 31:04
  Speaker 5: that next drop off point? As far as like maybe
• 31:07
  Speaker 5: it's like the twentieth pick, then you see a pretty
• 31:09
  Speaker 5: significant cliff to the final you know, ten to twelve.
• 31:13
  Speaker 5: How would you like tier the first round based on
• 31:16
  Speaker 5: the potential and talent?
• 31:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right around like end of the lottery, like that
• 31:20
  Speaker 6: fourteen to seventeen range is where I think it kind
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: of falls off a lot from like guys who could
• 31:27
  Speaker 6: potentially be long term starters to role players and like
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: high end lottery tickets, you know, big like high variance
• 31:36
  Speaker 6: guys like Nate Amen, Jaden Quainton's, you know, in the
• 31:39
  Speaker 6: late teen range where it's like at the end of
• 31:43
  Speaker 6: the day, you just kind of have to swing on
• 31:44
  Speaker 6: upside and hope for the best, because if you miss
• 31:46
  Speaker 6: out on the eighteenth pick, it's like, okay, well whatever
• 31:50
  Speaker 6: rarely works anyways. But if you hit and Jane Quaint's's
• 31:54
  Speaker 6: knees hold up and he turns into the best defender
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: in this class, and it's like, Okay, I'm a genius.
• 31:59
  Speaker 6: Look at us with this defensive cornerstone for the next decade.
• 32:03
  Speaker 6: And then after that you start to kind of get
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: into like the specialists in the twenties, with like an
• 32:07
  Speaker 6: Isaiah Evans, who I really like, but he's just kind
• 32:10
  Speaker 6: of like an off ball shooter. With some potential defensive upside,
• 32:14
  Speaker 6: or some upperclassmen bigs like Terris Reid and zubiegefor who
• 32:18
  Speaker 6: I like a lot, but their peak, their ceiling is
• 32:21
  Speaker 6: probably like fringe starter but at their best as like
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: a six man backup center type of role. So that's
• 32:29
  Speaker 6: kind of right around like that sixteen seventeen eighteen range
• 32:32
  Speaker 6: is where the kind of big drop off between star
• 32:36
  Speaker 6: like legit potential starters and long term role players starts
• 32:41
  Speaker 6: with me.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: Got it?
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: And you mentioned Nate a man, what do you what
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: are your thoughts there on? Where do you think his
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: realistic ranges as of right now?
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: I think there's a very realistic chance that he goes
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: in like that five to six range, and if he doesn't,
• 32:56
  Speaker 6: he might free fall a little bit. His range has
• 33:00
  Speaker 6: been the widest that I've heard where some scouts still
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  Speaker 6: love him their head over heels about it, they love
• 33:07
  Speaker 6: the upside, they love what he could be. And then others,
• 33:10
  Speaker 6: and this is the camp I fall a little more into,
• 33:13
  Speaker 6: are like, hey, he's theoretical, Like the idea of him
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: is great, But the most of that idea that we
• 33:19
  Speaker 6: got this year was about a three to four week
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  Speaker 6: stretch in conference play in like late February, so it's
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: like he's always been the skinny kid in college, and
• 33:29
  Speaker 6: for most of the year he played like that at Tennessee,
• 33:32
  Speaker 6: and then for the three to four weeks we saw
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: him be more aggressive and get downhill and draw legitimate
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: follows through being aggressive, not just shot faking and jumping
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  Speaker 6: into guys like he did for most of the season.
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  Speaker 6: I would love for him to really study guys like
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: Chris Middleton and Jada McDaniels and learn how to impact
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: the game in a lesser role and master that mid
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: range footwork kind of craft and really heightened his defensive
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: capabilities and assistency. But I'm not sure that that's who
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: he really wants to be on that end of the floor.
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: So he's he's really really tricky, and if among the
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: big names, if we're looking for someone to potentially fall,
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  Speaker 6: I think, unfortunately, he might be one of the leading candidates.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm fascinated to see how where how his career
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  Speaker 5: plays out, because I agree with your sentiment. When I
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: would watch a movie infuriating Kinds, It's like I would
• 34:25
  Speaker 5: just wanted him to be more aggressive and you know,
• 34:27
  Speaker 5: show more fire and maybe that's just not how he is.
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: But on the flip side, you.
• 34:31
  Speaker 5: Mentioned that that stretch during conference play, and then when
• 34:34
  Speaker 5: I look at where he came from, because when you know,
• 34:38
  Speaker 5: months before, I was like, this guy's afraid to be
• 34:41
  Speaker 5: out there, So like that progression, seeing like where he
• 34:45
  Speaker 5: was to then just that potential, there's definitely going to
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: be some eyes that are like, all right, I see it.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: I'm buying in on that. So I'm very fascinated to
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  Speaker 4: see how his career plays out.
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: Tyler.
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  Speaker 1: Let's finish where we started back at the top. Always
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: aerous game to play, but we're gonna play it anyway.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: I want a couple of draft comps for the guys
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: that we're going to see go off the board early.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: So I'll give you a couple of the obvious names.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: You tell me their most likely comparison of guys that
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: have either been in the league or are currently playing
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: professional basketball. Start with AJ Debonsa. Who does he remind
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: you of?
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  Speaker 6: AJ gives me Carmelo, Anthony, Paul George, Tracy McGrady.
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  Speaker 2: That is nice. Okay, what about Darreon Peterson.
• 35:32
  Speaker 6: Anthony Edwards, Dwayne Wade with a jumper, Devin Booker, Donovan Mitchell.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: So we're not going wrong there with those two.
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: Cam Boozer, Al Horford, Kevin Love modern Carl Malone without
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: the bad stuff.
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: Better the better passer than Malone though, Yeah, yeah, significantly better.
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: What about Woggler we haven't talked about him. Who does
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: he remind you of six to six guard?
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  Speaker 6: He's tricky, I get like Tyres helbertn Is like the
• 36:04
  Speaker 6: high end. I think there's some Austin Reeves, Ryan Rollins,
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Trey Man on the low end. I think there's a
• 36:10
  Speaker 6: lot of variance, but he could very easily end up
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: looking like one of the best guards or the biggest
• 36:14
  Speaker 6: buss from this class.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Kind of all over the board with that one.
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  Speaker 5: And then can you see de bonsa McGrady com Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 36:23
  Speaker 5: I think there's some of that.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: We heard that last year with Ace Bailey too. Who
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: do you think who reminds you more of McGrady?
• 36:30
  Speaker 6: I think a j a lot more his handle, ability
• 36:34
  Speaker 6: to use his scoring, gravity, a little more explosive of
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: an athlete too, A cuff Darius Garland, Jaylen Brunson.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: See that brunts and keeps getting me go and check
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: him out. It's no Ceilings n b A. The amount
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: of effort and and quality work and a very esthetically
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: pleasing website as well. These guys put in. It's phenomenal.
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: You guys are great at what you do. We appreciate
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: the time to Tyler.
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  Speaker 6: Thanks for having me.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Let's get to our draft Kings.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Plant the Flag segment four today's episode. Since we talked
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: to Tyler Metcalf about the NBA Draft, Let's bet on
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: the draft.
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: This is what we do. Mind the flag and shut up.
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to plant my flag here.
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: Okay, you're really planning your flag in that thick our
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: favorite NBA draft bet top ten, top pick, whatever.
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: Comes to your mind, Hendraw, We will start with you,
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: what are you looking at?
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: I am going to go with and I should have
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: asked this question just because this feels a little random
• 37:32
  Speaker 3: to throw in here at this point, but we were
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: just really rocking and rolling with him. But I'm gonna
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: go Nate Ament top ten minus one five.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: They are not Ament guys over at No Ceilings. I'm
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: looking at one of their latest mock drafts. They have
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: him mocked at twenty five to the LA Lakers. But
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: he said that amant As the widest variance of anybody
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: in the draft, so who the hell knows.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Darius Acuff selected over slot six and a half. You
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: can get that at plus one point fifty five over
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: on DK. Seems like it's already written in the stars
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: that he's gonna play for the Sacramento Kings. They sit
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: at seven. So if he gets drafted by Sacramento, we
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: cash the bet. It you go top four is set.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: We know how that's gonna go. So he basically would
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: have to go and don't to lose this bet. He
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: would have to go five to the Clippers or six
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: to the Nets, or somebody would have to trade up,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: which doesn't happen all that often in the NBA draft.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: The Nets have more point guards of the future than
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: they know what to do with.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: And so it's really just the Clippers that I'm worried about.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Mikhal Brown Woggler.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: Those guys a little bit bigger than a Cuff, so
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: they could end up going ahead of him. I'm gonna
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: go with a Cuff over six and a half plus
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  Speaker 1: one fifty five.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Stucky off to you.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with I was thinking about a mar
• 38:50
  Speaker 5: position but I'm gonna go with Boozer. I think he's
• 38:53
  Speaker 5: minus one forty to go third overall. I think that's
• 38:57
  Speaker 5: pretty much written. I think it's just Debontsa Peterson one two,
• 39:02
  Speaker 5: and then it's going to be Boozer.
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: So let's throw a favorite in there.
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: But I think I think that you're that's a decent
• 39:12
  Speaker 5: position that you're taking, because I do think well, like
• 39:14
  Speaker 5: Wilson is pretty much a lock to go for yep.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: I mean that was the two strongest rumors that I
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: have seen as far as teams that can't seem to
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: keep it close to the vest is that the Bulls
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: love Caleb Wilson and the Kings are in love with
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: Darius A Cuff.
• 39:32
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I saw Wilson go up to like
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: min minus five hundred yea to go forth overall. So
• 39:40
  Speaker 5: definitely a lot of signal there. And then yeah, I
• 39:43
  Speaker 5: could easily see if you I'll have to check out
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: I want to go check out Tyler's thoughts because we
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: didn't get to asking about Woggler, but I could certainly
• 39:52
  Speaker 5: see Woggler going fifth.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: To said Wogglers has a little Tyrese Haliburton in him.
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: I like that.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I could definitely see them like Woggler and Flemings
• 40:05
  Speaker 5: or you know that the Nets could get me mentioned
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: all of their their guards. Matt Moore was telling me
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: about this too, like they could just say, hey, let's
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: take the best available and go with the guard. But
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: if they're looking more at positional need, you know, maybe
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: you have you know, a guy like Mara or the
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: upside invariants of ament slipped in there. So I think
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: that there's a lot of paths where you can catch
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: that a cuff that because there's definitely gonna be some
• 40:34
  Speaker 5: teams that are concerned about his OLA defense on that
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: end of the floor.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: You can also bet the exact order of the top
• 40:42
  Speaker 1: three over undraft kings.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: I would just say, if you are a.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Darren Peterson truther and think that Aj Debonsa is just
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: gonna end up back in Utah, who has the second
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: pick Peterson de Bonsa boozer one two three exact order
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: plus four seventy five over on draft kings.
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  Speaker 2: I was taking a peek at that as well, to
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: go ahead stock.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say Peterson is like his camp. I
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: didn't followed it this close.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: Knee deep in college football stuff but his camp, he's
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: like trying to get out there and be like I
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: don't want to go to Utah, right, and.
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: The only team he has worked out for is Washington.
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: Yeah, he said he'd go to Washington, and he's I
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: think he came out and said that he'd go or
• 41:24
  Speaker 5: he like let it be known that he'd be okay
• 41:26
  Speaker 5: going to Memphis as well. I don't does that work
• 41:29
  Speaker 5: in the NFL, I mean not the NFL. Does that
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: work in the NBA? Or like no, you know the
• 41:36
  Speaker 5: usually it happened last year the same thing.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, I'm gonna put my full tinfoil hat on here.
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: I'm conspiracy theory that the draft it correct. Oh no,
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: that the draft like for the NBA and the lottery
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: and everything.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: It's bullshit.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: The whole thing is bullshit. Like I think that they know.
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: Bake it doesn't exist.
• 41:59
  Speaker 6: Think it's fake.
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: No, I just think that it's like pre determined, like
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: we know that there's no way that this is one
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: honest and authentic right, Like am I the only one
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: here that's like this is suce?
• 42:12
  Speaker 4: Are you talking about the actual lottery?
• 42:14
  Speaker 3: Yes, the lottery.
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: They could have done so much better than Washington at
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: the top of the draft. If we're if we are,
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: if we're going full Vince McMahon, WWE on this, they
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: could have created a much more entertaining top three.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: I do think that there's been maybe some I could
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: get behind some like conspiracy theories in the past, like.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: Like the Cooper like the MAVs ending up with the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: first pick after trading Luka Doncic was a little.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: Bit utah you got back in the day. I could
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: see some.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Don't be a sheep, but I don't think in general
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: it's just you guys.
• 42:53
  Speaker 2: Like don't be a sheep.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Be a winner over at Draft Kings, Nate Amen is
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: the top ten for Kendra at minus I've got Darius
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: Acuff over six and a half at plus one fifty five.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: I think he's gonna end up going seven to the Kings.
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: And Stuckey is on cam Boozer minus one forty to
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: go number three. That's gonna do it for us here
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