Latest / The Student Athlete Sessions / D3 Coach Q&A - Anthony Bonaventura (Stevens Wrestling)
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- 0:00SPEAKER_01: We're joined by the Stevens Institute of Technology,
- 0:04SPEAKER_01: Fighting Ducks,
- 0:05SPEAKER_01: head wrestling coach,
- 0:07SPEAKER_01: Anthony Bonaventura.
- 0:09SPEAKER_01: How's it going?
- 0:10SPEAKER_02: Yeah, everything's good.
- 0:11Definitely a lot of excitement right now as we get ready for
- 0:15another school year.
- 0:17SPEAKER_02: We are actually on the later schedule.
- 0:19So we had our move in with our first years and we'll kick up
- 0:24classes after Labor Day.
- 0:25SPEAKER_02: So campus is getting more lively.
- 0:28SPEAKER_02: Preseason is around the corner, wrestling season around the corner.
- 0:31SPEAKER_02: So a lot of good stuff happening right now.
- 0:33SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 0:34SPEAKER_01: Just for the, for everyone who's going to listen to this, help us out.
- 0:37SPEAKER_01: Wrestling is a,
- 0:39does it fall into a bucket like fall or winter sports or does
- 0:42it really stretch
- 0:43SPEAKER_01: throughout the entire year?
- 0:44SPEAKER_02: No,
- 0:45SPEAKER_02: it's definitely considered,
- 0:47SPEAKER_02: if you talk to anyone,
- 0:49SPEAKER_02: it's considered a winter sport,
- 0:50SPEAKER_02: but we are one of the longest seasons for college athletics.
- 0:54SPEAKER_02: We stretch over both semesters, which I think is good.
- 0:58SPEAKER_02: We don't have a non-traditional season,
- 1:00SPEAKER_02: like some sports,
- 1:02SPEAKER_02: but I think it's good to have the structure,
- 1:04SPEAKER_02: especially at a school like us,
- 1:05SPEAKER_02: to have that structure of the academics and the wrestling.
- 1:08SPEAKER_02: For six months out of the year, the guys are getting going, and
- 1:12our national championships will and again for the listeners
- 1:15obviously just learning
- 1:17college wrestling for all ncaa levels starts october 10th
- 1:20that's like the official
- 1:21start of the playing season and it goes to the second weekend
- 1:24in march that's the
- 1:25national championships um so october to march pre-launch season
- 1:30and um so yeah we
- 1:33SPEAKER_02: keep you guys busy that's for sure
- 1:34SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no kidding.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: I feel like preseason starting right when you get on campus,
- 1:41that is one of those things that a lot of high schoolers don't
- 1:46really understand
- 1:46SPEAKER_01: about division through athletics,
- 1:48SPEAKER_01: especially when comparing it to other levels,
- 1:52SPEAKER_01: is the level of commitment.
- 1:53SPEAKER_01: It's not just that October to March timeframe,
- 1:55SPEAKER_01: which is already long,
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: but it's the pre-work,
- 1:58SPEAKER_01: it's the captain's practices,
- 1:59SPEAKER_01: it's all the training that leads up to that season.
- 2:05And you're more qualified than most to understand that because
- 2:09you also played
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: Division III sports yourself.
- 2:13SPEAKER_01: You wrestled at Waynesburg University, if I have my notes here correct.
- 2:18SPEAKER_01: What was your student athlete experience like at Waynesburg?
- 2:20SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I guess, how'd you end up there?
- 2:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's a great question.
- 2:26SPEAKER_02: It gets asked a lot,
- 2:28SPEAKER_02: especially growing,
- 2:29SPEAKER_02: being a native of Long Island,
- 2:30SPEAKER_02: New York,
- 2:31SPEAKER_02: definitely a long way from home.
- 2:34SPEAKER_02: But,
- 2:35SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 2:35SPEAKER_02: grew up in a family of all boys,
- 2:37SPEAKER_02: all on athletics,
- 2:39SPEAKER_02: blessed to all have college athletic careers.
- 2:41SPEAKER_02: So we were all
- 2:43SPEAKER_02: In wrestling,
- 2:43SPEAKER_02: in football,
- 2:44when my brother Danny committed to play football at Robert
- 2:47Morris University,
- 2:48SPEAKER_02: a smaller Division I school outside of Pittsburgh.
- 2:51SPEAKER_02: Me and my twin brother,
- 2:52SPEAKER_02: who's also a college wrestling coach,
- 2:54SPEAKER_02: he coaches in West Virginia for D2.
- 2:57SPEAKER_02: We both went to Waynesburg.
- 2:59We looked at the schools that had our major and the sport we
- 3:02wanted to do.
- 3:03So we looked at a lot of schools in that Whippeal area,
- 3:06is what they call Western Pennsylvania.
- 3:08SPEAKER_02: And really just fell in love with Waynesburg.
- 3:11SPEAKER_02: Coach Ron Headley, who's now retired.
- 3:13SPEAKER_02: Coach John Yates, now retired.
- 3:15SPEAKER_02: Just legends of the sport.
- 3:16SPEAKER_02: They were really revamping the Waynesburg wrestling program.
- 3:19SPEAKER_02: I wanted to be a part of that and easy to help it grow and,
- 3:22SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 3:22SPEAKER_02: be a very,
- 3:23SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 3:24SPEAKER_02: perennial power in the conference.
- 3:26SPEAKER_02: regional and at the national level.
- 3:28SPEAKER_02: And, uh, so just, it's all something to be powerful and really special.
- 3:32SPEAKER_02: It was a really good small community,
- 3:35SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 3:35SPEAKER_02: with talent set down for football games,
- 3:38SPEAKER_02: um,
- 3:38SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 3:39SPEAKER_02: in the fall and,
- 3:40SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 3:40SPEAKER_02: my twin brother,
- 3:41SPEAKER_02: he was a two sport athlete.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: He played football.
- 3:42SPEAKER_02: So I was really close with the football team and the football guys.
- 3:45SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 3:46SPEAKER_02: Um, and it was just, it was just perfect.
- 3:49You know,
- 3:49I mean,
- 3:49growing up in like suburbs,
- 3:51Long Island,
- 3:51it was something that I seeked.
- 3:54SPEAKER_02: I want, I want to get away from that.
- 3:55SPEAKER_02: I want to go to a rural area, um, explored in part of the country.
- 3:59SPEAKER_02: And, um,
- 4:00You know,
- 4:01it was really the best decision that kind of set me up for my
- 4:03career.
- 4:04SPEAKER_02: And, you know, blessed to, you know, found my wife there.
- 4:08SPEAKER_02: We have a great family now.
- 4:10SPEAKER_02: She's in athletics.
- 4:13SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, everything happens for a reason.
- 4:14SPEAKER_02: It was a great experience.
- 4:15SPEAKER_02: I was there for four years as an athlete.
- 4:17SPEAKER_02: I had a great student athlete experience.
- 4:19SPEAKER_02: I was there one year as a coach.
- 4:21SPEAKER_02: And then I've been in Hoboken, New Jersey at Stevens ever since.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 4:26SPEAKER_01: I mean, hard to argue with that.
- 4:27SPEAKER_01: You got to go to school with your brother,
- 4:30SPEAKER_01: you got to explore a new area of the country,
- 4:32SPEAKER_01: you met your wife,
- 4:33SPEAKER_01: you got a grad degree and your coaching start there.
- 4:36SPEAKER_01: And it really just teed you up for the rest of your career.
- 4:38SPEAKER_01: It seems like,
- 4:40SPEAKER_01: um,
- 4:41did you always know that you wanted to do coaching after school
- 4:45or was that
- 4:45SPEAKER_01: something that was kind of new or that you stumbled into maybe?
- 4:50SPEAKER_01: So everyone has a different route.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: So what was yours into coaching?
- 4:53Yeah,
- 4:53so coaching was always something that I knew was going to be a
- 4:56part of my life.
- 4:58SPEAKER_02: I was an education major at Waynesburg for mathematics,
- 5:02so I always thought it was going to be more at the high school
- 5:04level because my
- 5:06SPEAKER_02: parents were educators.
- 5:07SPEAKER_02: They were coaches.
- 5:08SPEAKER_02: I really enjoyed the lifestyle that they provided for my brothers and I,
- 5:12SPEAKER_02: and it was a really fun,
- 5:14SPEAKER_02: busy lifestyle,
- 5:15SPEAKER_02: but we were always around sports and sports.
- 5:17um you know we were the ball boys my dad's sport was baseball
- 5:20he actually was a d3
- 5:21athlete at washington and lee he played baseball there and uh
- 5:25so that was his sport
- 5:26and he coached us and you know so we were ball boys we on the
- 5:29football sideline the
- 5:30baseball sideline my mom was a gymnastics coach so i always
- 5:34thought it would be
- 5:35high school coach high school math teacher you know um
- 5:40providing that way but
- 5:41really fell in love with division three athletics during my
- 5:43experience there and
- 5:44SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 5:44that's kudos to the coaching staff I had there and the people I
- 5:47was surrounded with
- 5:48and really felt like my calling at the college level and just
- 5:53kind of went with
- 5:54SPEAKER_02: that trajectory.
- 5:55SPEAKER_02: And, you know, here we are now.
- 5:56SPEAKER_02: So.
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and going well.
- 5:59SPEAKER_01: I want to get into your time at Stevens,
- 6:03SPEAKER_01: and you are a relatively recent hire,
- 6:08SPEAKER_01: but you guys have already done so much,
- 6:11SPEAKER_01: so I definitely want to get into that.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: Before I do,
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: though,
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: just acknowledging the format for everyone who joins,
- 6:18SPEAKER_01: this is a live Q&A,
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: so David,
- 6:21SPEAKER_01: I see you in the chat.
- 6:23SPEAKER_01: Feel free to
- 6:24ask questions of,
- 6:25of both of us tonight,
- 6:27if you have them,
- 6:29um,
- 6:29and we'll get those addressed.
- 6:31SPEAKER_01: Um, and Aaron too, in the chat, feel free to ask questions.
- 6:37Um,
- 6:38when they come up,
- 6:39I would say,
- 6:40yeah,
- 6:40last year,
- 6:4124,
- 6:4125 was your first season.
- 6:42SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 6:47SPEAKER_01: You guys did great.
- 6:48SPEAKER_01: You had some All-Americans.
- 6:49SPEAKER_01: You qualified for the NCAAs.
- 6:52SPEAKER_01: You guys won your fifth straight regional championship.
- 6:57SPEAKER_01: Where would you put,
- 6:58SPEAKER_01: I guess,
- 6:59SPEAKER_01: the status of your program at the moment,
- 7:00SPEAKER_01: and where are you trying to take the Ducks in 25-26?
- 7:05Yeah,
- 7:06I mean,
- 7:07at this point,
- 7:09so I've been associated with the program now for 10 years.
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: Also,
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: like you mentioned,
- 7:12SPEAKER_02: it was my first year as head coach last year,
- 7:14SPEAKER_02: and I was definitely handed a great situation.
- 7:19SPEAKER_02: Not handed, because me and the head coach kind of built it up together.
- 7:21SPEAKER_02: But, you know, he left me a very, very good program, right?
- 7:25SPEAKER_02: And something that I was grateful for to kind of land.
- 7:32land my feet in that type of position and already be have a
- 7:35good relationship with
- 7:35SPEAKER_02: the student athletes on the team.
- 7:37SPEAKER_02: Um, and we want to just continue the trajectory we have.
- 7:40We want to be one of the best programs in the country at the
- 7:43division three level
- 7:44SPEAKER_02: and really any NCAA level when it comes to high academics and,
- 7:48SPEAKER_02: and the high level wrestling.
- 7:50SPEAKER_02: Um, you know, I put,
- 7:53SPEAKER_02: Steven's now at the destination for high level student athlete,
- 7:56SPEAKER_02: high level student athlete,
- 7:58SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 7:59SPEAKER_02: seeking a high level education,
- 8:01SPEAKER_02: but also seeking an elite level wrestling experience and facilities,
- 8:06SPEAKER_02: coaching staff to resources outside of our program that we have and
- 8:11mile square city in hoboken you know it's not not pba but
- 8:14there's a lot going on
- 8:15there i've even had a lot to offer um so we just want to we
- 8:19want to continue to put
- 8:21ourselves in the conversation being blessed best programs in
- 8:23the country on the
- 8:24SPEAKER_02: east coast at the ncaa level and you know
- 8:29SPEAKER_02: develop our student athletes to,
- 8:31SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 8:32SPEAKER_02: reach their full potential,
- 8:33SPEAKER_02: whether that's being a national champ,
- 8:35SPEAKER_02: like Greg Callen was back in 2022,
- 8:38SPEAKER_02: or,
- 8:38SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 8:39being an NCAA All-American or Nathan just being an NCAA
- 8:42qualifier and being a
- 8:42SPEAKER_02: scholar All-American.
- 8:44SPEAKER_02: Whatever that potential is, we want to try to get that out.
- 8:46SPEAKER_02: You want to please the most out of you in that four to five years.
- 8:50SPEAKER_02: And then hopefully in the habits we gain our lifestyle, you know, um,
- 8:56you set yourself up for a really good position career-wide
- 8:59post-grad and you're
- 9:00SPEAKER_02: ready to,
- 9:01SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 9:01SPEAKER_02: dominate the professional.
- 9:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 9:04SPEAKER_01: What does that pipeline look like?
- 9:05SPEAKER_01: The,
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: the D3 wrestling to professional track,
- 9:10SPEAKER_01: like how many guys have you had go or,
- 9:13SPEAKER_01: um,
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: yeah,
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: just kind of walk,
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: walk us through that.
- 9:17SPEAKER_02: So, uh, competing, like continue to compete after your level.
- 9:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 9:24SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
- 9:25so there's definitely a Division III avenue that there's been
- 9:28wrestlers that have
- 9:29SPEAKER_02: gone on and even at the senior level,
- 9:31SPEAKER_02: which is the Olympic level,
- 9:33SPEAKER_02: which is different than college folk style.
- 9:35It's freestyle and deckle elements of what you watch in the
- 9:37Summer Olympics.
- 9:39SPEAKER_02: I would say most of the guys at Stevens,
- 9:42they will train the Olympic style to get ready for the folk
- 9:45style Stevens,
- 9:46SPEAKER_02: right?
- 9:46So they'll compete in high-level USA wrestling men during their
- 9:49career at Stevens.
- 9:51SPEAKER_02: But...
- 9:53SPEAKER_02: After that, post-grad, they're not really convenient.
- 9:56A lot of these guys have a graduate of engineering degrees and
- 9:59business degrees.
- 10:01SPEAKER_02: They're jumping into the engineering world.
- 10:02They're jumping into project managers for construction
- 10:05companies or just doing
- 10:07SPEAKER_02: really high level finance or business areas.
- 10:12SPEAKER_02: So,
- 10:12SPEAKER_02: like,
- 10:13SPEAKER_02: they go all in with the experience at Stevens,
- 10:15SPEAKER_02: but at the end of the day,
- 10:16you're coming to school at Stevens to set yourself up for the
- 10:18next 50 years.
- 10:20SPEAKER_02: And I'm sure we'll talk about more in the conversation,
- 10:22SPEAKER_02: but there's a lot of really good,
- 10:24SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 10:25SPEAKER_02: with Stevens,
- 10:25SPEAKER_02: but at the D3 level,
- 10:26there's a lot of really good opportunities for a high academic
- 10:31that kids should
- 10:31SPEAKER_02: really look into.
- 10:32SPEAKER_02: You know, I know Ivy Leagues get a lot of
- 10:34get a lot of love but you know not every i offers wrestling
- 10:38right and there's only
- 10:40so many opportunities at those levels so there's great
- 10:43opportunities to get great
- 10:44education and yeah very high levels yeah definitely and i think
- 10:49that probably
- 10:49starts at the you know recruiting stage of things that you're
- 10:53you're looking for
- 10:54SPEAKER_01: kids with either a high gpa or you know coming into stevens looking for a
- 10:59SPEAKER_01: particular major um
- 11:02SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 11:02When it comes to your recruiting process,
- 11:04like I'm sure you just,
- 11:05here we go.
- 11:06SPEAKER_01: We just got a question here.
- 11:07SPEAKER_01: What do you look for in recruits?
- 11:08SPEAKER_01: How does one stand out?
- 11:09SPEAKER_01: So like,
- 11:10SPEAKER_01: as you just wrapped up your class,
- 11:13SPEAKER_01: I guess for 2025s,
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: like what did people do well that got them offers?
- 11:19What did people not do well that got them,
- 11:21put them off your recruiting list?
- 11:23SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 11:24So I think the biggest thing in continued interest level
- 11:28throughout the entire
- 11:29SPEAKER_02: process,
- 11:29SPEAKER_02: communication is very important.
- 11:31SPEAKER_02: Communication action.
- 11:32SPEAKER_02: It's one of our core values of our program.
- 11:34So just feeling that connection during the recruitment process
- 11:38is really important.
- 11:39SPEAKER_02: And, um,
- 11:40transparency right like if I understand there's a lot of
- 11:44opportunities out there at
- 11:45the NCAA level if Stevens Stevens it's a very particular
- 11:49lifestyle you're going to
- 11:49live and if that's something you don't want to do then I'd
- 11:52rather you just tell me
- 11:54SPEAKER_02: and instead of just kind of going through the charade of you know
- 12:00SPEAKER_02: if I'm going to come here or not, and kind of like stringing an alum.
- 12:03SPEAKER_02: But Stevens is a very streamlined process.
- 12:04SPEAKER_02: Like, you're not rolling admission.
- 12:06SPEAKER_02: So application deadline for Stevens is in January, January 15th.
- 12:12SPEAKER_02: That is the cutoff for applications.
- 12:15And it is very,
- 12:15very competitive to get into a lot of these higher academic
- 12:18schools.
- 12:19SPEAKER_02: So we need to get these guys into the most competitive areas
- 12:23position to get accepted and get the most,
- 12:25uh,
- 12:25merit scholarship and financial aid possible.
- 12:27So early decision is a really,
- 12:29really big factor at really any higher academic institution.
- 12:33SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 12:34SPEAKER_02: but just seeing on the same page,
- 12:35SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 12:35SPEAKER_02: setting up,
- 12:37SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 12:38SPEAKER_02: visits on campus,
- 12:39SPEAKER_02: coming to prospect days,
- 12:41SPEAKER_02: a lot of universities run a prospect day.
- 12:43SPEAKER_02: That's really a great opportunity to get the full team at the experience.
- 12:47SPEAKER_02: Um, um,
- 12:48SPEAKER_02: But yeah, I would say communication, continue showed interest.
- 12:51SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 12:51SPEAKER_02: there's a lot that division three coaches like don't like I,
- 12:56SPEAKER_02: me and my staff,
- 12:57SPEAKER_02: we're the recruiting coordinator,
- 12:58SPEAKER_02: right?
- 12:58SPEAKER_02: We don't have a system coach.
- 13:00SPEAKER_02: He's just, this is the guy that's just talking to us.
- 13:02SPEAKER_02: Like you're doing it while also getting ready to the season,
- 13:06SPEAKER_02: worrying about,
- 13:06SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 13:07SPEAKER_02: the 40 guys I have on my team,
- 13:08SPEAKER_02: there's a lot of play.
- 13:10SPEAKER_02: So if you're not getting back to us,
- 13:13SPEAKER_02: then, you know, it's kind of out of sight, out of mind.
- 13:16You know,
- 13:16you got to bring in kids that want to be here and want to get
- 13:19better.
- 13:19SPEAKER_02: So, connection, communication, and then just...
- 13:26SPEAKER_02: taking those opportunities,
- 13:27SPEAKER_02: like doing official visits,
- 13:29SPEAKER_02: doing unofficial visits,
- 13:30SPEAKER_02: going to the prospect day,
- 13:32SPEAKER_02: showing up to home matches,
- 13:33SPEAKER_02: like when you can during the busy,
- 13:35all that stuff really goes a long way in showing us that you
- 13:39really want to be at
- 13:40SPEAKER_02: Stevens.
- 13:41SPEAKER_02: So I would say that checks with you boxers for sure.
- 13:45SPEAKER_01: Now that makes sense.
- 13:46SPEAKER_01: What, where are you scouting people?
- 13:49SPEAKER_01: Like, how do you gather your initial list?
- 13:52SPEAKER_01: Is it,
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 13:53obviously talked about recruits can reach out and they can do
- 13:56some outbound,
- 13:57SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: emailing to you,
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: but like,
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: how are you kind of doing your own recruiting process to start?
- 14:05Yeah,
- 14:05so a lot of really good connections with high schools and clubs
- 14:09in the local area.
- 14:11That's really kind of like where we get our feet on the ground
- 14:14and really see the
- 14:14SPEAKER_02: student athletes training and in the practice room.
- 14:18SPEAKER_02: But every program around the country has a recruiting database.
- 14:22SPEAKER_02: We use Frontrush.
- 14:24So the best way people get on our radar is filling out that
- 14:28questionnaire.
- 14:29SPEAKER_02: That's really the first shown step of interest.
- 14:32SPEAKER_02: You're taking the time to go on our website or go on our social media,
- 14:35SPEAKER_02: find the link,
- 14:37SPEAKER_02: give us the information,
- 14:38SPEAKER_02: fill out the questionnaire.
- 14:40SPEAKER_02: Because again, emails can go to junk.
- 14:41Emails can get lost in the traffic that happens so much
- 14:45throughout the school year
- 14:46SPEAKER_02: and how to pick up.
- 14:48SPEAKER_02: And,
- 14:49SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 14:49SPEAKER_02: fulfilling that questionnaire and getting in our database,
- 14:51SPEAKER_02: getting on our newsletter,
- 14:53SPEAKER_02: um,
- 14:53SPEAKER_02: and getting in that connection,
- 14:55SPEAKER_02: um,
- 14:55SPEAKER_02: is very,
- 14:56SPEAKER_02: very important.
- 14:57SPEAKER_02: So that questionnaire step is really important.
- 14:59SPEAKER_02: And again,
- 15:00SPEAKER_02: it has on there,
- 15:01SPEAKER_02: like what their GPA is,
- 15:02SPEAKER_02: what the SATs,
- 15:03SPEAKER_02: ATTs,
- 15:04SPEAKER_02: and,
- 15:04SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 15:05SPEAKER_02: just looking at that,
- 15:06SPEAKER_02: like academics is something I look at right away,
- 15:08because if you can't get accepted or get accepted and a
- 15:11forceful like Venus,
- 15:12SPEAKER_02: then I don't want to waste your time.
- 15:14SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 15:14SPEAKER_02: So yeah.
- 15:16SPEAKER_02: Understanding that what I'm looking for,
- 15:20SPEAKER_02: for acceptance,
- 15:21SPEAKER_02: then being in a good position to get accepted is really important.
- 15:24SPEAKER_02: So that recruiting questionnaire, yeah, that goes a long way.
- 15:27SPEAKER_02: And you can talk to any college coach.
- 15:29SPEAKER_02: They'll look those things up.
- 15:30yeah yeah it's definitely something we've heard um time and
- 15:34time again for coaches
- 15:35that's that's a great first step telling coaches you're working
- 15:39on the application
- 15:40um telling coaches you plan to come visit campus like all those
- 15:45things as you
- 15:45mentioned to demonstrate interest and show a coach you're
- 15:48committed i think those
- 15:50yeah that that definitely tracks with with things that other
- 15:53coaches have said um
- 15:56SPEAKER_01: Again,
- 15:56SPEAKER_01: yeah,
- 15:56SPEAKER_01: because you have limited time,
- 15:58SPEAKER_01: especially once the school year starts,
- 15:59you have things going on and you're not going to be able to
- 16:02catch every email.
- 16:03SPEAKER_01: So you need to make the ones you send good and indicate,
- 16:08SPEAKER_01: I think,
- 16:09where Stevens or whatever school it is that you're interested
- 16:12in stands in your
- 16:13SPEAKER_01: process.
- 16:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I want to add on that too before we move on.
- 16:17SPEAKER_02: I mean, we're in a very good recruiting area of slow wrestling.
- 16:21SPEAKER_02: New Jersey, Pennsylvania, New York, I mean, top three.
- 16:25state on an annual basis when it comes to wrestling at the high
- 16:29school level.
- 16:30SPEAKER_02: So we don't really need to go far.
- 16:32SPEAKER_02: Now,
- 16:32our academics do pulling kids from all over the country because
- 16:36they're very
- 16:36SPEAKER_02: high-level school.
- 16:37We have a kid coming in from Colorado,
- 16:39Louisiana,
- 16:41some kids from New England this year.
- 16:42So,
- 16:43I mean,
- 16:43we have,
- 16:44you know,
- 16:45close to 20 kids coming in from six different states.
- 16:49SPEAKER_02: So it does track from kids around.
- 16:52SPEAKER_02: We've had kids from California on the team.
- 16:55SPEAKER_02: So,
- 16:56SPEAKER_02: again,
- 16:56if you're seeking very specific academic experience when it
- 17:00comes to engineering,
- 17:01SPEAKER_02: computer science,
- 17:02SPEAKER_02: theaters,
- 17:03SPEAKER_02: math,
- 17:04SPEAKER_02: now business,
- 17:06SPEAKER_02: right?
- 17:06SPEAKER_02: Those are majority of our student athletes are in that.
- 17:09SPEAKER_02: So, yeah, we take them all.
- 17:12SPEAKER_02: Like you said, we want that high level of experience.
- 17:14SPEAKER_02: We'll find them and bring them here for sure.
- 17:18SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: I love that.
- 17:20And as you mentioned earlier,
- 17:22you spent nine years as a,
- 17:24uh,
- 17:25assistant coach.
- 17:25SPEAKER_01: You had one year, a grad assistant at Waynesburg too.
- 17:28SPEAKER_01: Like you have lived both.
- 17:31You,
- 17:31you,
- 17:31you've seen the recruiting grind and also now you're the head
- 17:34coach.
- 17:35SPEAKER_01: So, um,
- 17:37SPEAKER_01: how much like has recruiting changed?
- 17:39Are there any things that have like really stayed the same that
- 17:43kids have to do
- 17:45SPEAKER_01: other than like the questionnaire,
- 17:46SPEAKER_01: I think we've already talked about.
- 17:48Um,
- 17:49like everything's moved,
- 17:50you know,
- 17:50from the time that you and I were,
- 17:52were recruiting.
- 17:52SPEAKER_01: It was like,
- 17:54you still had to like maybe put things on a CD and submit it or
- 17:58like we didn't
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: quite have that,
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: like the huddle link that you could just tag to an email.
- 18:01Like what are those things that have stayed true though across
- 18:07the 10 years you've
- 18:08SPEAKER_01: been at Stevens?
- 18:11I think that we have a great retention rate where it's being an
- 18:14athlete and it's
- 18:15really kind of just combing through the kids and really
- 18:20understanding someone that
- 18:21SPEAKER_02: wants to be here and really wants to be a team athlete.
- 18:24SPEAKER_02: That's really the biggest thing that has stayed true.
- 18:29SPEAKER_02: If you don't want to do the academics,
- 18:32SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 18:32SPEAKER_02: you're not going to be able to do the wrestling,
- 18:34SPEAKER_02: a popular football sport,
- 18:36SPEAKER_02: um,
- 18:36SPEAKER_02: it's like a long season.
- 18:38SPEAKER_02: And,
- 18:38SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 18:39SPEAKER_02: if you're,
- 18:39SPEAKER_02: if you're half in,
- 18:41SPEAKER_02: um,
- 18:41SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 18:41SPEAKER_02: those are the kids that struggle at a school like you,
- 18:44SPEAKER_02: who really struggle within a program.
- 18:47SPEAKER_02: Um, because you have to be all in.
- 18:49SPEAKER_02: If you're,
- 18:49SPEAKER_02: if you're trying to,
- 18:51SPEAKER_02: if you're committing to,
- 18:53SPEAKER_02: um,
- 18:53SPEAKER_02: being part of,
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: a pop level,
- 18:54SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 18:55SPEAKER_02: college wrestling program,
- 18:56SPEAKER_02: but also having a world-class,
- 18:59SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 18:59SPEAKER_02: education,
- 19:00SPEAKER_02: um,
- 19:01SPEAKER_02: there's no breaks.
- 19:03SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 19:03SPEAKER_02: And,
- 19:04SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 19:04SPEAKER_02: I'm not saying that,
- 19:05SPEAKER_02: um,
- 19:06SPEAKER_02: our guys don't have time to,
- 19:08SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 19:08SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 19:08SPEAKER_02: we're a great area for social experiences,
- 19:11SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 19:12SPEAKER_02: New York studios,
- 19:12SPEAKER_02: our backyard around the river.
- 19:15SPEAKER_02: Um, there's a lot that happened in Oboken, but,
- 19:18uh you know the biggest thing is biggest transition from high
- 19:21school to college is
- 19:22time management and when you're at school like teams and you
- 19:25take advantage of that
- 19:26time management it comes back to bite you um so that's really
- 19:30the biggest thing
- 19:30SPEAKER_02: like just really
- 19:32SPEAKER_02: getting out on those kids that really want to get the degree of even,
- 19:36SPEAKER_02: um,
- 19:36and also be a great student of sport wrestling and get better
- 19:40and be coachable.
- 19:41SPEAKER_02: Uh, that is true.
- 19:42SPEAKER_02: I'll say the biggest thing that's changed over the year.
- 19:45SPEAKER_02: And,
- 19:45SPEAKER_02: and I'll say,
- 19:45SPEAKER_02: as you know,
- 19:46SPEAKER_02: like we're here doing this interview on X,
- 19:48SPEAKER_02: Twitter,
- 19:48SPEAKER_02: however you want,
- 19:49SPEAKER_02: like social media.
- 19:50SPEAKER_02: It's just, it's just crazy.
- 19:52SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 19:53SPEAKER_02: there's so much knowledge at these guys' internships now,
- 19:56SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 19:57SPEAKER_02: so like they're on top of a lot of things.
- 20:00SPEAKER_02: And, uh, you know, that's a good thing and a bad thing, right?
- 20:03SPEAKER_02: Your social media has got to be clean.
- 20:04And,
- 20:04uh,
- 20:05you know,
- 20:05if it's not,
- 20:06a coach is going to be able to find that and figure it out.
- 20:08SPEAKER_02: So,
- 20:09SPEAKER_02: um,
- 20:10social media has become a huge factor when it comes with food
- 20:12and when branding
- 20:13SPEAKER_02: goes out.
- 20:14SPEAKER_00: Yeah, no question.
- 20:16SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 20:17SPEAKER_01: you,
- 20:18you mentioned that like the balance and obviously you do some
- 20:21pre-sorting to say
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: like,
- 20:22SPEAKER_01: okay,
- 20:23SPEAKER_01: we know this kid is going to be able to handle both the athletics and the
- 20:25SPEAKER_01: academics,
- 20:26SPEAKER_01: Stevens,
- 20:27SPEAKER_01: but in terms of,
- 20:28SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: it's still a question.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: I think even when kids have good grades that they're,
- 20:32SPEAKER_01: they could be worried about,
- 20:33SPEAKER_01: it's,
- 20:34SPEAKER_01: it's like a big life adjustment.
- 20:35SPEAKER_01: It's, it's a lot to take on.
- 20:37SPEAKER_01: How do your guys manage that with, um,
- 20:41you know a demanding course load and as we've already covered
- 20:45demanding schedule
- 20:46and that starts right when they get on campus and runs till
- 20:49march like do they work
- 20:49together do they go to study hall anything like that uh we have
- 20:53study hall through
- 20:54our program and all of our all of our first years are part of
- 20:58that um to kind of
- 21:00SPEAKER_02: build in those habits and that time management piece to the program
- 21:04SPEAKER_02: And I think it shows academically,
- 21:06SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 21:07SPEAKER_02: we seem to be a top 10 team academically,
- 21:10SPEAKER_02: as well as having success on the mat.
- 21:12SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 21:13SPEAKER_02: our team GPA with like a regional team,
- 21:15a national team last year was at Sleuth 7-1 for the NWS day
- 21:19academic standings.
- 21:20SPEAKER_02: And we had 12-star All-American.
- 21:22SPEAKER_02: Wow.
- 21:23SPEAKER_02: That stuff is really important, right?
- 21:24SPEAKER_02: That's a really important piece to put on your resume.
- 21:28And it's,
- 21:29again,
- 21:29it's not like a lip service throughout the recruitment process.
- 21:31SPEAKER_02: It's something that I hold really important to me.
- 21:35SPEAKER_02: I mean, like I said, I was an education major.
- 21:38SPEAKER_02: I think academics is very important.
- 21:39SPEAKER_02: It's going to set you up for the next 50 years.
- 21:42And so just being transparent and continue to kind of follow
- 21:46through on what I'm
- 21:47SPEAKER_02: talking about throughout the recruitment process,
- 21:49SPEAKER_02: like
- 21:49we are flexible i understand there is a lot that gets on these
- 21:53guys plates like
- 21:54he's flexible like if i have to leave practice for early for a
- 21:58test or you know
- 21:59they have to get ready for a test and get to do a one-on-one
- 22:03some other time like
- 22:05just you know with our with our coaching staff like it'd be on
- 22:08the same page you
- 22:09guys and making sure they're not stressing about the academics
- 22:11because then their
- 22:12SPEAKER_02: wrestling is going to be affected
- 22:14SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 22:14SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 22:14SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 22:15SPEAKER_02: we have a two,
- 22:16SPEAKER_02: two week window when it comes to finals at the end of the academic year.
- 22:19So like,
- 22:20uh,
- 22:20like at the end of this semester,
- 22:21it's like understanding that.
- 22:23And like,
- 22:24as the fall semester comes to a closing,
- 22:25these guys have a lot going on.
- 22:27SPEAKER_02: And,
- 22:28SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 22:28SPEAKER_02: me as a first year head coach,
- 22:30SPEAKER_02: you're understanding that when it comes to competition schedule and,
- 22:33SPEAKER_02: um,
- 22:34planning around that and just making sure that you guys are in
- 22:37the best positions
- 22:38possible to be very successful and uh again just making a
- 22:42priority for them and
- 22:44just being flexible with them um as long as that communication
- 22:47is you know not like
- 22:49day of and you know 24 hours out 48 hours and we gotta plan and
- 22:54play um then good
- 22:56SPEAKER_02: things can happen yeah
- 22:58SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
- 22:59SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 23:00And I think,
- 23:00again,
- 23:01that shows kind of your experience being a student athlete.
- 23:04Like you not only coached you for a long time,
- 23:06you lived it as a student at Waynesburg.
- 23:09Like I am curious now shifting a little more to the actual
- 23:13wrestling side of things.
- 23:15SPEAKER_01: Like,
- 23:16what are some of the takeaways that you maybe discovered during
- 23:21your own athletic
- 23:23SPEAKER_01: career that you now,
- 23:24SPEAKER_01: like,
- 23:24SPEAKER_01: apply to coaching or things that you try to help guys,
- 23:28SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 23:29SPEAKER_01: not have to take as long to find out?
- 23:33SPEAKER_01: Like, what are those things that you pass along to your guys now?
- 23:37think the biggest thing is on like respecting ncaa division
- 23:41three athletics just in
- 23:42general like respecting it and understanding like um yes you
- 23:47have a more balanced
- 23:48lifestyle but if you want to be successful like you want to
- 23:51compete for a national
- 23:52title if you want to be an all-american or have success in
- 23:55march right we're all
- 23:56training for the post evening like you need to be committed
- 23:59like you need to take
- 24:01it seriously and and if you don't you're gonna you're gonna
- 24:03fall short of your
- 24:04SPEAKER_02: goals because
- 24:05SPEAKER_02: Division III athletics, Division III wrestling continues to grow.
- 24:08SPEAKER_02: We are the biggest NCAA division out of all D1, D2, D3.
- 24:13SPEAKER_02: We have 131 teams going into 2026.
- 24:17SPEAKER_02: And we are heading five or six more coming 2027.
- 24:20SPEAKER_02: And it's been eye-opening being on the NCAA Championships Committee,
- 24:24SPEAKER_02: seeing the growth and increasing our bracket,
- 24:29SPEAKER_02: the 21-man brackets last year.
- 24:31But I would say the first thing is just like really rejecting
- 24:35empty of division
- 24:35SPEAKER_02: three and like it's not going to be easy.
- 24:39You've really got to put your time and work and be successful
- 24:42at your craft in
- 24:43SPEAKER_02: whatever sport you're doing,
- 24:44SPEAKER_02: but especially a sport like wrestling.
- 24:46SPEAKER_02: And,
- 24:47SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 24:47SPEAKER_02: especially with what's going on in D1,
- 24:50like Division 3 is going to continue to get better with the
- 24:52transfer portal,
- 24:53SPEAKER_02: NL,
- 24:53SPEAKER_02: and the lobster caps.
- 24:55Like,
- 24:56those kids that were friendly in D1 are going to be going to
- 24:59Division 3 or Division 3 mat.
- 25:01SPEAKER_02: So, like, it's going to get more competitive.
- 25:03um so just understanding that like you gotta be locked in um
- 25:07respecting respecting
- 25:09uh how good ncaa to be pretty wrestling is i would say that's
- 25:12the first step and
- 25:13then the next thing is like you talked about earlier just a
- 25:16time management piece
- 25:17and um you know you really show what you care about by putting
- 25:23the time into it
- 25:24SPEAKER_02: right like you show your priorities by what you're getting
- 25:27and that academics are really important and wrestling is really
- 25:30important,
- 25:30SPEAKER_02: you're going to do a really good job,
- 25:33SPEAKER_02: right?
- 25:33So you can get distracted easily and kind of keep it off that
- 25:37path and things are
- 25:38SPEAKER_02: going to get tougher.
- 25:39SPEAKER_02: So...
- 25:42SPEAKER_02: I would say those are,
- 25:43SPEAKER_02: like,
- 25:44SPEAKER_02: the two biggest takeaways is just understanding,
- 25:46SPEAKER_02: like,
- 25:46SPEAKER_02: how competitive Divinity of Wrestling is.
- 25:49And,
- 25:49you know,
- 25:50we still want to continue to do the highest we've ever done at
- 25:52Stevens.
- 25:53SPEAKER_02: We've taken fourth in the country flight as a program.
- 25:56SPEAKER_02: And,
- 25:57SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 25:57SPEAKER_02: we want to get back into that Team Philadelphia range,
- 26:00SPEAKER_02: just like every program,
- 26:02SPEAKER_02: and,
- 26:02SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 26:03SPEAKER_02: compete for academic and athletic national title.
- 26:06And in order to do that,
- 26:06you've got to have guys that are fully committed to,
- 26:08you know,
- 26:10the vision of the program and you know at the end of the day
- 26:13there's only 10
- 26:14postseason spots right for individual glory but the team can
- 26:20help those 10
- 26:20individual guys get better every single day so but yeah I'll
- 26:27say that's probably
- 26:27SPEAKER_02: the biggest one that comes to mind I've left
- 26:29SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
- 26:31SPEAKER_01: And I do want to clarify something because we kind of passed over it.
- 26:34SPEAKER_01: But in CAA roster caps,
- 26:37can you explain what that change of the Division I level is
- 26:42going to do to Division
- 26:44SPEAKER_01: III athletics?
- 26:45SPEAKER_01: Can you elaborate on that a little bit?
- 26:46SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 26:47So it's all about the revenue sharing piece that kind of the
- 26:53decision got started.
- 26:55made this past summer so basically schools that opt into
- 26:59revenue sharing uh their
- 27:01sports are going to have a roster cap so for wrestling you
- 27:04should see the wrestling
- 27:05SPEAKER_02: rate for that so the roster cap of wrestling can be 30.
- 27:09it can be 30 moving forward for those schools like a lot of
- 27:13power four schools that
- 27:14are going to be in the revenue sharing which mean um you know
- 27:19those guys that were
- 27:20SPEAKER_02: 31 to 40 on that roster
- 27:22SPEAKER_00: Now,
- 27:22SPEAKER_02: a lot of these guys are going to get grandfathered in,
- 27:25SPEAKER_02: but some of them,
- 27:25SPEAKER_02: some of them might not.
- 27:26SPEAKER_02: And the coaches might just cut ties right away.
- 27:29SPEAKER_02: Although those guys that were,
- 27:31SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 27:31SPEAKER_02: two or three on the depth chart at V1,
- 27:33SPEAKER_02: which again is important,
- 27:34SPEAKER_02: right?
- 27:35SPEAKER_02: Wrestling in the combat is what injuries happen.
- 27:37SPEAKER_02: But those guys now,
- 27:38SPEAKER_02: if they want to continue to compete,
- 27:40SPEAKER_02: they have to go seek other opportunities.
- 27:42SPEAKER_02: So, um...
- 27:44SPEAKER_02: Transfers have definitely become bigger at the Division III level.
- 27:48There's been a lot of transfers for Division III wrestling just
- 27:52across the board.
- 27:53SPEAKER_02: And again,
- 27:56it's going to continue to grow as these roster caps become more
- 27:59strict and
- 28:01wrestling programs around the country realize what they can and
- 28:04can't have when it
- 28:05SPEAKER_02: comes to numbers through the fold.
- 28:08SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 28:08SPEAKER_01: And does it, does it go the other way?
- 28:10SPEAKER_01: I'm curious,
- 28:10SPEAKER_01: like you guys,
- 28:11SPEAKER_01: obviously strong wrestling program at Stevens,
- 28:14SPEAKER_01: um,
- 28:15SPEAKER_01: a lot of talented individuals.
- 28:18SPEAKER_01: Uh, have you seen guys also go D3 to D1 or D2 to some scholarship level?
- 28:25SPEAKER_02: Yeah, I think it's funny you say that.
- 28:28SPEAKER_02: I mean, I think the big example, we're actually seeing that.
- 28:30SPEAKER_02: There is a three-time Division III national champ for Roper.
- 28:34SPEAKER_02: He's actually transferring,
- 28:36SPEAKER_02: uses last year eligibility at the University of Iowa,
- 28:40SPEAKER_02: which is pretty awesome.
- 28:41SPEAKER_02: And his name was still my dean.
- 28:44And that's really like the biggest name that we've seen kind of
- 28:48transfer to D3 to D1.
- 28:50SPEAKER_02: Don't really see it.
- 28:54out like that's a very like rare case a lot a lot of times
- 28:58there was another case
- 29:00um back in 2017 there was a 184 pounder all-american for
- 29:04Augsburg the next year he
- 29:07went to the University of Minnesota and he's a third in U of M
- 29:11so it's like there's
- 29:13SPEAKER_02: definitely cases like that but a lot of times like
- 29:17SPEAKER_02: kids kind of fall in love with the D3 team lifestyle,
- 29:19SPEAKER_02: but it's,
- 29:20SPEAKER_02: when you go in D1,
- 29:22SPEAKER_02: and again,
- 29:22SPEAKER_02: there's nothing wrong with that,
- 29:24SPEAKER_02: but,
- 29:24SPEAKER_02: like,
- 29:24SPEAKER_02: that is becoming your life.
- 29:26SPEAKER_02: Like,
- 29:27SPEAKER_02: you are all in on athletics,
- 29:29SPEAKER_02: not saying that you don't have a life outside,
- 29:31SPEAKER_02: but it is a lot more mandatory,
- 29:33SPEAKER_02: committed lifestyle,
- 29:35SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 29:35SPEAKER_02: compared to D3.
- 29:35SPEAKER_02: And there's just a lot more opportunity to kind of have more of a
- 29:41SPEAKER_02: college lifestyle,
- 29:42SPEAKER_02: per se,
- 29:43SPEAKER_02: than if you want the V1 route,
- 29:44SPEAKER_02: which,
- 29:45SPEAKER_02: again,
- 29:45SPEAKER_02: I think kids are seeing that now.
- 29:48SPEAKER_02: And nothing wrong with Division I wrestling.
- 29:51SPEAKER_02: It's still a pinnacle.
- 29:52SPEAKER_02: It's outstanding.
- 29:53SPEAKER_02: It's just a different experience.
- 29:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:56SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 29:56SPEAKER_01: And I, and I, I think it's something, yeah, I would agree with you.
- 29:59SPEAKER_01: I more, you know, I think this program is called D3 direct.
- 30:04SPEAKER_01: So I'm a little biased when it comes to levels.
- 30:07SPEAKER_01: And, um, I think what the opportunity entails, I think is,
- 30:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's also, you know, every situation is different.
- 30:15SPEAKER_01: But I think if you can stay at one place for four years,
- 30:19SPEAKER_01: you really get the maximum benefits of what you mentioned earlier,
- 30:22SPEAKER_01: which is trying to go to a school with a 50-year mindset,
- 30:25SPEAKER_01: right?
- 30:25SPEAKER_01: So in terms of maximum benefits, that's the career network.
- 30:30SPEAKER_01: You get the concentrated degree.
- 30:32So you finish your coursework with the same professors,
- 30:36the same teaching style.
- 30:37SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 30:39SPEAKER_01: you know, you get to know more of the opportunities on campus.
- 30:42So maybe it's clubs or kind of take a leadership position in
- 30:46something that gets
- 30:47SPEAKER_01: you maybe a look at a job or a research opportunity down the road.
- 30:52SPEAKER_01: And,
- 30:53SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 30:54SPEAKER_01: yeah,
- 30:54SPEAKER_01: I mean,
- 30:54SPEAKER_01: there have been a number of,
- 30:55SPEAKER_01: across all sports,
- 30:57SPEAKER_01: D3 athletes going to D1 and other levels.
- 30:59SPEAKER_01: And I think, as you mentioned, it's great.
- 31:01SPEAKER_01: It is just, it is almost a professional commitment these days.
- 31:06SPEAKER_01: Um, not to, not to say to, you know, throw any shade at what we do at D3.
- 31:11SPEAKER_01: It's a lot of time,
- 31:12SPEAKER_01: but,
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: yeah,
- 31:14SPEAKER_01: it is,
- 31:15SPEAKER_01: it is certainly something that's going to cause a step up in the,
- 31:18SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 31:19SPEAKER_01: in the hours you're committing to your sport every week.
- 31:21SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 31:23SPEAKER_00: Yep.
- 31:24SPEAKER_01: So yeah.
- 31:26SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 31:26SPEAKER_01: got a couple more people who just joined as a reminder,
- 31:31SPEAKER_01: this is a live Q and a,
- 31:32SPEAKER_01: so it's not just us talking over here.
- 31:34SPEAKER_01: Um, feel free to drop your questions in.
- 31:38We have a D three grad that just joined,
- 31:42uh,
- 31:43again,
- 31:44David,
- 31:44I see you in the chat.
- 31:45SPEAKER_01: You've been a, you've been a, you asked some great questions before.
- 31:47SPEAKER_01: So feel free to ask those if they come up.
- 31:51SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 31:53SPEAKER_01: give people a second here.
- 31:54SPEAKER_02: Yeah, no problem.
- 31:57SPEAKER_00: Jack, if we got anything on Twitter as well.
- 32:03SPEAKER_01: I think, um, absolutely questions.
- 32:06SPEAKER_01: I think something we've been seeing lately,
- 32:08SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 32:09I think it's probably cause it's the fall and visits are
- 32:12starting to be offered.
- 32:13SPEAKER_01: Um,
- 32:14Could you walk us through how Stevens handles like official
- 32:18versus unofficial
- 32:19SPEAKER_01: visits,
- 32:20SPEAKER_01: staying in the dorms,
- 32:21SPEAKER_01: like everything that goes into that and how you offer each to recruits?
- 32:26SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 32:27SPEAKER_02: So, I mean, unofficial visits, I mean...
- 32:31to really all recruits take those visits,
- 32:33take as many visits as you can.
- 32:35SPEAKER_02: Cause the more schools you see,
- 32:36SPEAKER_02: the more you understand what type of university you want,
- 32:40SPEAKER_02: what type of academic lifestyle you want,
- 32:43SPEAKER_02: what type of social lifestyle you want.
- 32:46SPEAKER_02: So those, you learn a lot on those visits.
- 32:48So unofficial visits,
- 32:50you know,
- 32:51first at Stevens,
- 32:52there's a missions tours,
- 32:53a missions.
- 32:54SPEAKER_02: There's a great job.
- 32:55SPEAKER_02: It's like a two hour tour throughout campus.
- 32:57SPEAKER_02: They don't really show you a lot of athletics.
- 32:59So we basically any recruit,
- 33:02you know,
- 33:02that's doing an unofficial visit to reach out to us.
- 33:05SPEAKER_02: And after your admissions tour,
- 33:06SPEAKER_02: depending on time,
- 33:07we'll either meet you before or after and then show you a full
- 33:11detailed outlook of
- 33:13SPEAKER_02: athletic facilities,
- 33:14SPEAKER_02: which is a lot going on right now.
- 33:15SPEAKER_02: A lot of construction going on.
- 33:16SPEAKER_02: We're renovating our athletic facilities right now at Stevens.
- 33:20SPEAKER_02: So we'll show you the wrestling room.
- 33:21SPEAKER_02: We show you a varsity weight room, other weight rooms on campus.
- 33:24SPEAKER_02: Um, so that's really kind of the unofficial visit thing.
- 33:26SPEAKER_02: It's kind of like a half day type of ordeal.
- 33:29SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 33:29SPEAKER_02: a lot of Q and a kind of first time on campus,
- 33:32SPEAKER_02: getting your feet wet and just understanding what Stevens is about.
- 33:36SPEAKER_02: And honestly,
- 33:38after that unofficial Stevens is usually kind of falling into
- 33:41like somebody's like
- 33:42SPEAKER_02: top five right away.
- 33:43SPEAKER_02: Just it's a beautiful campus.
- 33:45Like I said,
- 33:46this,
- 33:46you get the best skyline of,
- 33:48uh,
- 33:48New York city right on the Hudson river.
- 33:51SPEAKER_02: And, um,
- 33:53so after that if uh you know we really are connected and we
- 33:57think like you're at a
- 33:58need weight class and you're like kind of more on a recruiting
- 34:02board we'll offer
- 34:03those official visits now official visits you can be on a
- 34:06campus up to 48 hours so
- 34:08we typically take advantage of that and we'll we'll have
- 34:11someone come come in on a
- 34:12SPEAKER_02: thursday um and we will do a weekend of it we'll have there for
- 34:17SPEAKER_02: from midday Thursday to,
- 34:20SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 34:20SPEAKER_02: Saturday and you'll observe class,
- 34:23SPEAKER_02: you'll observe practice,
- 34:24SPEAKER_02: you'll hang out with the team,
- 34:25SPEAKER_02: really get to know the culture of the team.
- 34:27SPEAKER_02: Um, and really just get the full Stevens wrestling experience.
- 34:31SPEAKER_02: And it's like,
- 34:32SPEAKER_02: Hey,
- 34:32SPEAKER_02: like I can see myself doing this for four years or,
- 34:35SPEAKER_02: Hey,
- 34:35SPEAKER_02: like this is too much.
- 34:37SPEAKER_02: And I've had both answers,
- 34:38SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 34:39SPEAKER_02: from recruits like,
- 34:40SPEAKER_02: Hey,
- 34:40SPEAKER_02: like the academics here are just too much.
- 34:41SPEAKER_02: Like I can't do it.
- 34:43SPEAKER_02: Or it was like, Hey, like I'm locked in and,
- 34:46SPEAKER_02: this is where I want to be.
- 34:47SPEAKER_02: Like, how do I apply and what timeline should I be going to?
- 34:50SPEAKER_02: So, uh, that's, that's kind of how it goes about.
- 34:54SPEAKER_02: We kind of really only offer the official visits to, uh,
- 34:58Those impact guys are guys that we really see being on our
- 35:03roster,
- 35:03offering roster spots too.
- 35:05Where you see the kids on social media talking about,
- 35:08got a roster spot offered.
- 35:10SPEAKER_02: That's kind of what the official visit's for.
- 35:12SPEAKER_02: Not saying we haven't had kids walk onto the team and be studs.
- 35:18SPEAKER_02: One of our captains this past year.
- 35:21SPEAKER_02: um,
- 35:21SPEAKER_02: was a walk on from Pennsylvania,
- 35:23SPEAKER_02: a blaze Wagner and,
- 35:24SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 35:24SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 35:25national qualifier went away from being an all American and
- 35:28became a two year star
- 35:29SPEAKER_02: for us,
- 35:29SPEAKER_02: had over 70 wins his last two years.
- 35:31SPEAKER_02: So like there's, there's success from both, both avenues.
- 35:36SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 35:36SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 35:38SPEAKER_02: and,
- 35:38SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 35:39SPEAKER_02: so again,
- 35:39SPEAKER_02: we,
- 35:40SPEAKER_02: we,
- 35:40SPEAKER_02: we take those opportunities and,
- 35:42SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 35:42SPEAKER_02: make,
- 35:43SPEAKER_02: make the most of it for the recruits for sure.
- 35:45SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 35:45SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 35:46SPEAKER_01: That's a helpful breakdown.
- 35:48SPEAKER_01: We, while you're talking, we got a question come in.
- 35:50Um,
- 35:51one of the parents is,
- 35:53uh,
- 35:53has a son that committed to Stevens for lacrosse class of 2026.
- 35:58SPEAKER_01: And he's wondering what is the culture,
- 36:00SPEAKER_01: the athletics culture like of a team supporting other teams?
- 36:05SPEAKER_01: Like, do your guys go to other events or what does that look like?
- 36:09SPEAKER_02: Yeah, it's awesome.
- 36:11SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 36:11SPEAKER_02: like I said,
- 36:12SPEAKER_02: Hoboken itself,
- 36:13SPEAKER_02: like I said,
- 36:13SPEAKER_02: it's a square mile city,
- 36:14SPEAKER_02: so it's already very small.
- 36:15SPEAKER_02: So campus is very condensed.
- 36:18SPEAKER_02: And we have 23 varsity sports in our athletic department.
- 36:22SPEAKER_02: And so all the athletic teams, we're sharing the varsity weight room.
- 36:27SPEAKER_02: We're sharing locker room space throughout the year.
- 36:31SPEAKER_02: really rubbing shoulders with each other just in different ways.
- 36:36SPEAKER_02: We host a lot.
- 36:38SPEAKER_02: The varsity athletic department at Stevens is special.
- 36:43SPEAKER_02: The student-athletes really care about each other.
- 36:45I serve also as a SAC advisor for our student-athletes,
- 36:49so I get to kind of
- 36:51um meet a lot of other student athletes around campus and uh
- 36:54they all really care
- 36:55about each other all going through the same grind that i kind
- 36:57of talked about
- 36:58earlier in this conversation right high academics high level
- 37:01athletics stevens is
- 37:02one of the top teams in the conference pretty much in every
- 37:05sport we're in the mac
- 37:07um which is the aq for pretty much every sport outside the
- 37:10individual sports like
- 37:11SPEAKER_02: wrestling and uh you know
- 37:15SPEAKER_02: Every sport, we support each other.
- 37:17SPEAKER_02: We try to get there.
- 37:19SPEAKER_02: We're usually hosting MAAC semifinals, MAAC final championships.
- 37:23We're usually hosting NCAA volleyball championships on campus
- 37:27or NCAA volleyball,
- 37:28women's volleyball because Hoboken is a very good destination
- 37:32for teams to travel
- 37:33SPEAKER_02: into and have a really good NCAA experience.
- 37:36Um,
- 37:37so a lot of our teams also have really good non-conference
- 37:39schedules.
- 37:40SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 37:40SPEAKER_02: our men's lacrosse team,
- 37:41SPEAKER_02: they play Tufts at like Tufts will,
- 37:44SPEAKER_02: will never have us go to them.
- 37:45SPEAKER_02: They come to Hoboken every year for like a big showdown and,
- 37:50SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 37:51SPEAKER_02: they bring their alumni down to Hoboken,
- 37:52SPEAKER_02: have a good experience,
- 37:54SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 37:54SPEAKER_02: which is a really cool event for,
- 37:56SPEAKER_02: for men's lacrosse.
- 37:58SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 38:00SPEAKER_02: I would say the culture is really fantastic.
- 38:03SPEAKER_02: They're all going through the same grind,
- 38:05SPEAKER_02: and they want to see each other do well in the sports they're doing.
- 38:09SPEAKER_01: Definitely.
- 38:10SPEAKER_01: Like you said,
- 38:10SPEAKER_01: it's a condensed campus,
- 38:11SPEAKER_01: so it's hard not to bump into another athlete or,
- 38:14SPEAKER_01: like you said,
- 38:15SPEAKER_01: share a locker with them.
- 38:17SPEAKER_01: That's kind of the D3.
- 38:20SPEAKER_02: Most of the students,
- 38:21SPEAKER_02: if you look across the athletic department,
- 38:23SPEAKER_02: are either in the engineering school or the business school.
- 38:26SPEAKER_02: So like a lot of,
- 38:27SPEAKER_02: a lot of the varsity athletes,
- 38:29SPEAKER_02: we do have a humanity school,
- 38:30SPEAKER_02: but most of the,
- 38:31I would say the majority are in those two schools and they're
- 38:34taking classes
- 38:34SPEAKER_02: together.
- 38:35SPEAKER_02: And we do have a good,
- 38:37also a good Greek life on campus that a lot of guys are also in
- 38:40fraternities and
- 38:40SPEAKER_02: safaris with,
- 38:41SPEAKER_02: which again,
- 38:42SPEAKER_02: it's a,
- 38:43SPEAKER_02: it's a healthy Greece,
- 38:44SPEAKER_02: Greek life at Stevens.
- 38:45SPEAKER_02: I know sometimes that can be scary hearing that from parents or coaches,
- 38:49SPEAKER_02: but it's a good situation at Stevens too.
- 38:53SPEAKER_01: Nice.
- 38:55SPEAKER_01: I do want to ask,
- 38:56SPEAKER_01: because not everyone that we have on has a podcast,
- 39:02SPEAKER_01: but you have one with your twin brother.
- 39:04SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 39:06SPEAKER_01: D3 Nation podcast.
- 39:09SPEAKER_01: How did that get started and why is that important to you?
- 39:14You've been doing it for a long time,
- 39:15so why has that been important to you?
- 39:16SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
- 39:16SPEAKER_02: it's important to me because I think,
- 39:19SPEAKER_02: as you know,
- 39:19SPEAKER_02: doing this,
- 39:20SPEAKER_02: right,
- 39:20there's a lot of really great people and great stories in
- 39:23Division III athletics.
- 39:25And I have a passion for Division III wrestling,
- 39:27being a Division III wrestler and now coach.
- 39:30SPEAKER_02: I want to share those stories.
- 39:31SPEAKER_02: And it was kind of a COVID project.
- 39:34SPEAKER_02: I mean, we weren't doing much coaching during COVID.
- 39:36SPEAKER_02: No one really was, right?
- 39:38SPEAKER_02: And it was just something that,
- 39:41SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 39:41SPEAKER_02: me and my twin brother always bounce ideas off each other.
- 39:43SPEAKER_02: We talk to each other a lot.
- 39:45SPEAKER_02: And
- 39:46SPEAKER_02: we talk wrestling a lot.
- 39:47SPEAKER_02: So it's like, we were already talking about it.
- 39:50SPEAKER_02: I guess we might as well record it and see how it goes.
- 39:53SPEAKER_02: And it's been really, really positive.
- 39:55SPEAKER_02: You know,
- 39:56SPEAKER_02: I don't know how long,
- 39:58SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 39:58SPEAKER_02: the show will go for,
- 39:59but we're really enjoying it right now and enjoy sharing the
- 40:04great stories in
- 40:04SPEAKER_02: division three wrestling.
- 40:06SPEAKER_02: You know, we're on six platforms and, you know,
- 40:09um it's been it's been really cool to see that that podcast
- 40:13grow with division
- 40:14three wrestling and you know hearing coaches uh on on the
- 40:19weekends talk about the
- 40:20SPEAKER_02: podcast with me and how much they enjoy it and appreciate what we do so I
- 40:25definitely don't take that for granted and try to use the
- 40:27platform to not just
- 40:28SPEAKER_02: really boost my program right it's not really it's
- 40:31um it's not just about boosting stevens right i'm biased so i
- 40:35think stevens is
- 40:35great but there's other divinity wrestling is great and i want
- 40:39to share those
- 40:39stories uh on that platform so you know it's just just audio
- 40:43files and we make it
- 40:44work and uh me and my twin brother good way to stay connected
- 40:48and network with
- 40:48other great people around the country so definitely where is he
- 40:53now he said he's
- 40:54SPEAKER_01: coaching
- 40:55SPEAKER_02: Yeah, so he was at Waynesburg after I left.
- 40:59SPEAKER_02: He was coaching there for a good bit, did a great job there.
- 41:01Now he's at Division II Fairmont State in West Virginia and
- 41:06doing a great job there.
- 41:07SPEAKER_02: He had his first All-American last year as well, so super pumped for him.
- 41:11SPEAKER_01: Very cool.
- 41:12SPEAKER_01: Could we ever see a reunion of the brothers?
- 41:15SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 41:15SPEAKER_02: So when he was coaching at Waynesburg,
- 41:17we got down there because we were actually in the same national
- 41:20qualifying event
- 41:20SPEAKER_02: for regionals.
- 41:22So we used to cross paths a lot at Waynesburg and we coached
- 41:25against each other,
- 41:25SPEAKER_02: Stevens versus Waynesburg.
- 41:27SPEAKER_02: And I don't know when it's going to happen,
- 41:30SPEAKER_02: but I'm sure we'll make something happen,
- 41:32SPEAKER_02: D2 versus D3 and make it happen.
- 41:34SPEAKER_02: Because that's always a big conversation, which division is better.
- 41:37SPEAKER_02: So yeah, we'll make it happen.
- 41:40strong uh all right let's uh as we start to close out here get
- 41:45into the functional
- 41:46questions uh if if i'm a recruit right now class 2026 no offers
- 41:53but interested in
- 41:54SPEAKER_01: playing a college sport what would you suggest i do
- 41:57SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
- 41:57First step,
- 41:58like I said,
- 42:00find those universities that you're really interested in.
- 42:03SPEAKER_02: Get those questionnaires and get on the coach's radar.
- 42:07SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 42:07SPEAKER_02: Those questionnaires go directly to our email.
- 42:10SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 42:10SPEAKER_02: So that's like the easiest,
- 42:11SPEAKER_02: like,
- 42:12SPEAKER_02: hey,
- 42:12SPEAKER_02: if this coach hasn't contacted me yet,
- 42:14SPEAKER_02: I'm going to contact them and show my interest.
- 42:16SPEAKER_02: Fill out the questionnaire.
- 42:17SPEAKER_02: Boom.
- 42:17SPEAKER_02: That's step one.
- 42:18SPEAKER_02: The next thing is ask you that questionnaire.
- 42:20SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 42:21SPEAKER_02: You've got to start doing these unofficial visits.
- 42:23SPEAKER_02: Get on campus.
- 42:25SPEAKER_02: Even if the coach isn't going to be there, do the admissions tour.
- 42:31SPEAKER_02: Go check out athletic facilities while you're there.
- 42:33SPEAKER_02: You've got to do some research on your own.
- 42:38um so those unofficials are very very uh important and then
- 42:41next step like just be
- 42:42on the lookout for like when coaches are in your area at like
- 42:45clinics or there's a
- 42:46lot of like combines like uh just around the country like just
- 42:51understand what
- 42:52coaches are going to be there and um you know seek those
- 42:55coaches like i know
- 42:56sometimes it uh it can feel like awkward like going up to a
- 43:00college coach and like
- 43:01SPEAKER_02: talking to them but
- 43:03you know,
- 43:04um,
- 43:04if you're not on the radar,
- 43:05like you gotta,
- 43:06you gotta start knocking.
- 43:07SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 43:08SPEAKER_02: And if you,
- 43:08SPEAKER_02: if you keep knocking,
- 43:09SPEAKER_02: they're going to,
- 43:10SPEAKER_02: they're going to start answering because they're going to,
- 43:12SPEAKER_02: they're going to be like,
- 43:12SPEAKER_02: wow,
- 43:13SPEAKER_02: this,
- 43:13SPEAKER_02: this,
- 43:14SPEAKER_02: this kid's really interested in this,
- 43:15SPEAKER_02: being a part of this program.
- 43:17SPEAKER_02: And,
- 43:18SPEAKER_02: um,
- 43:18SPEAKER_02: and then they'll start doing more homework on you and,
- 43:20SPEAKER_02: and then that can,
- 43:21SPEAKER_02: and then that relationship builds.
- 43:22So again,
- 43:23if you,
- 43:24if you don't have the offers that you're looking for right now,
- 43:27then,
- 43:28SPEAKER_02: then go get it.
- 43:29SPEAKER_02: Go find a way to go get it and get on these coaches' radars.
- 43:34SPEAKER_02: I'm fortunate to be in a great area.
- 43:36SPEAKER_02: There's a lot of really great clubs and clinics kind of in this area.
- 43:40And,
- 43:40you know,
- 43:41to kind of even now talk more about the profile I coach at,
- 43:44right?
- 43:44SPEAKER_02: I'm at Stevens, a high academic school.
- 43:46If you're not on the radar of like us or like an NYU or WPI or
- 43:53Case Western,
- 43:54Well,
- 43:55you better get on it because our application timeline is coming
- 43:58up.
- 43:58Like we try to get our recruits to go in early decision pools,
- 44:02which ED1 is November 15th.
- 44:05SPEAKER_02: And then ED2 is January 15th.
- 44:08SPEAKER_02: So like those applications are coming for those high academic schools.
- 44:11SPEAKER_02: So you really need to kind of pick up the pace,
- 44:14SPEAKER_02: especially if you're seeking that type of experience.
- 44:18SPEAKER_01: And what would you suggest to families who,
- 44:20SPEAKER_01: you know,
- 44:20SPEAKER_01: are looking to sticker price of a D3 and kind of say,
- 44:23SPEAKER_01: oh,
- 44:23SPEAKER_01: wow,
- 44:23SPEAKER_01: that's scary.
- 44:25And maybe aren't interested in like committing in the early
- 44:28decision window,
- 44:30SPEAKER_01: but are they still want to apply?
- 44:32SPEAKER_01: Like, how would how would you suggest they navigate that?
- 44:34SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
- 44:35SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 44:35SPEAKER_02: I would say,
- 44:36SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 44:37SPEAKER_02: just speaking from experience,
- 44:39SPEAKER_02: if you want to get that price tag to the lowest you can,
- 44:41SPEAKER_02: ED is the best way to do that.
- 44:43And the average applicant in ED pools across the board at
- 44:49really any high academic
- 44:52SPEAKER_02: is much lower than if you kind of wait to regular decision.
- 44:56SPEAKER_02: Even in early action,
- 44:57SPEAKER_02: if you go early action or regular decision,
- 44:59SPEAKER_02: those application pools are double,
- 45:01SPEAKER_02: triple of what an ED pool looks like.
- 45:04SPEAKER_02: Your application,
- 45:05not that it's going to get lost because we'll have you tapped
- 45:07as a recruit and we
- 45:09SPEAKER_02: want you here,
- 45:10but you're going to look a lot less appealing compared to what
- 45:15you would look like
- 45:16SPEAKER_02: to an ED applicant compared to EA or a regular decision.
- 45:20There's no one on our team that's paying the full price tag to
- 45:23come to a school like Stevens.
- 45:26SPEAKER_02: I'm well educated in that.
- 45:28SPEAKER_02: I don't want a kid paying full freight to come to school like Stevens.
- 45:32It's a great education,
- 45:33but it's like,
- 45:34if you can't afford it,
- 45:35you can't afford it.
- 45:36SPEAKER_02: And this isn't the school for you.
- 45:37SPEAKER_02: There's other opportunities.
- 45:39SPEAKER_02: So, you know, not trying to trick kids into
- 45:43SPEAKER_02: paying more than what their families can afford.
- 45:45SPEAKER_02: But just having to understand,
- 45:47SPEAKER_02: like,
- 45:47I want you to be the most favorable in the missions timeline
- 45:52possible to get the
- 45:53SPEAKER_02: most money and to get accepted.
- 45:55SPEAKER_02: And for us in our track record, that's ED.
- 45:58We've only had early action for two years at Stevens and it's,
- 46:03you know,
- 46:03it's kind of,
- 46:04SPEAKER_02: We're kind of learning what early action looks like still at Stevens.
- 46:08SPEAKER_02: We've had more success.
- 46:09SPEAKER_02: Most of my class was in ED.
- 46:12SPEAKER_02: And again,
- 46:13SPEAKER_02: if you have the grades to go regular,
- 46:15SPEAKER_02: if you have above 1,500 on your SAT and you have above 30 on your ACT,
- 46:22SPEAKER_02: you can go regular.
- 46:23SPEAKER_02: I'm not worried about you not getting accepted and getting money.
- 46:26SPEAKER_02: You will get money in any application time.
- 46:28SPEAKER_02: It's more of those kids that are kind of on the fringe.
- 46:30SPEAKER_02: It's like...
- 46:31SPEAKER_02: If you go regular,
- 46:33SPEAKER_02: I think you can get accepted,
- 46:34but you're not going to be the one you're going to be giving
- 46:37the big merit
- 46:38SPEAKER_02: scholarship to.
- 46:39SPEAKER_02: It's just not the case.
- 46:41SPEAKER_01: And early action, is that also in the November 15th timeline?
- 46:44SPEAKER_01: Or is that January?
- 46:47SPEAKER_02: December 1st timeline.
- 46:49SPEAKER_01: Okay, like two weeks after.
- 46:50SPEAKER_02: Yes, two weeks after.
- 46:51SPEAKER_02: Gotcha.
- 46:51SPEAKER_01: Gotcha.
- 46:53SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 46:54SPEAKER_01: That's helpful to know.
- 46:55SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 46:55I mean,
- 46:55I think as you mentioned,
- 46:57early action for Stevens is a new change.
- 46:59I know there's been a lot of news recently about early decision
- 47:02and a lot of D3s
- 47:03SPEAKER_01: and,
- 47:04SPEAKER_01: and,
- 47:05SPEAKER_01: uh,
- 47:05SPEAKER_01: there was a lawsuit recently calling in a question like,
- 47:08SPEAKER_01: I saw that.
- 47:08SPEAKER_01: Yep.
- 47:09SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 47:09SPEAKER_01: The legality of it.
- 47:10So it's just a question,
- 47:12you know,
- 47:13it's great to have your experience and expertise to weigh in.
- 47:16SPEAKER_01: And, um, something is I know families are asking us about it.
- 47:20SPEAKER_01: Um, so that's, that's extremely helpful.
- 47:22SPEAKER_02: Yeah,
- 47:23SPEAKER_02: I think at the end of the day,
- 47:24SPEAKER_02: the logic is,
- 47:25SPEAKER_02: especially if we're your number one,
- 47:28put yourself in the best position to get accepted and get the
- 47:31most money possible.
- 47:32SPEAKER_02: If we're not your number one,
- 47:34then we still probably would like you if you're a high-priority
- 47:38recruit and
- 47:40SPEAKER_02: then apply early action or apply regular decision.
- 47:42SPEAKER_02: We'll support your application.
- 47:45SPEAKER_02: But if we're number one,
- 47:46you might as well just go ED and figure it out and kind of see
- 47:51where we fall and
- 47:52SPEAKER_02: kind of go from there.
- 47:54SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 47:54SPEAKER_01: And I,
- 47:55SPEAKER_01: I want to dig in one,
- 47:56SPEAKER_01: one other thing you just said,
- 47:58SPEAKER_01: you said,
- 47:58SPEAKER_01: go ED and get as much money as possible.
- 48:00SPEAKER_01: So explain why that's the case.
- 48:03I know you mentioned it's a smaller application pool,
- 48:05but like what else is available?
- 48:07SPEAKER_01: You said merit, maybe what does that first go get?
- 48:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 48:12SPEAKER_02: I mean, I mean, for, for, for ED, right.
- 48:14ED one,
- 48:15you're the first applicants that admissions is looking at for,
- 48:18for this year.
- 48:19SPEAKER_02: So, um,
- 48:21SPEAKER_02: That goes a long way.
- 48:22SPEAKER_02: Interest level goes a long way with our admissions department.
- 48:26SPEAKER_02: Same thing with us, we're recruiting.
- 48:31SPEAKER_02: You're the first one when it comes to...
- 48:32SPEAKER_02: There's a small little stipend or scholarship,
- 48:37SPEAKER_02: I guess you would say,
- 48:38SPEAKER_02: to going ED.
- 48:40SPEAKER_02: Our admissions rewards kids that are committing to the ED process.
- 48:43SPEAKER_02: On top of...
- 48:45SPEAKER_02: Uh,
- 48:45SPEAKER_02: going ED,
- 48:45SPEAKER_02: you'll get a additional,
- 48:47SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 48:47SPEAKER_02: every year kind of fluctuates,
- 48:48SPEAKER_02: but you'll get additional scholarship just for going ED.
- 48:51And then,
- 48:52um,
- 48:52you're the first applicants that are getting rewarded merit
- 48:55scholarship.
- 48:56SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 48:56SPEAKER_02: so,
- 48:57SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 48:57there's only a select amount of like merit scholarship that our
- 49:01admissions can like
- 49:02SPEAKER_02: give out every single year.
- 49:04So why wait till regular decision where now they're going to
- 49:07give it to the kids
- 49:08SPEAKER_02: that have higher GPAs,
- 49:09SPEAKER_02: have higher SATs,
- 49:10SPEAKER_02: have higher ACTs,
- 49:11SPEAKER_02: right?
- 49:12SPEAKER_02: Go ED where
- 49:14SPEAKER_02: you,
- 49:15SPEAKER_02: you look the best and,
- 49:17SPEAKER_02: um,
- 49:17SPEAKER_02: you're going to get that marriage scholarship,
- 49:19SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 49:20rewarded for your efforts of going ed and getting that package
- 49:24as low as possible.
- 49:25Yep.
- 49:26Yep.
- 49:27SPEAKER_00: That's very helpful.
- 49:29SPEAKER_01: Well, well, thanks for joining here.
- 49:31I think we got a,
- 49:32I got one more question and let's,
- 49:33let's give the chat a second.
- 49:35SPEAKER_01: I've seen a few more people join any final questions.
- 49:40SPEAKER_01: Coach Anthony here.
- 49:46SPEAKER_01: If not, it's been exciting to hear how the level is growing.
- 49:50SPEAKER_01: Like I love hearing the new teams are coming to join D3 wrestling.
- 49:54That's like you mentioned already the biggest division three or
- 49:56the biggest NCAA
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: wrestling level.
- 49:59Um,
- 50:01and,
- 50:01uh,
- 50:02yeah,
- 50:02it seems like future is bright for the sport for Stevens as a
- 50:05program.
- 50:06SPEAKER_01: Um, yeah.
- 50:08SPEAKER_01: Any kind of closing thoughts before I ask the last question here?
- 50:11SPEAKER_02: No, I appreciate you doing things like this.
- 50:14I think spreading more knowledge about Division III athletics
- 50:18and just as a
- 50:19Division III experience is really important because I think
- 50:23there's a lot of kids
- 50:23SPEAKER_02: that –
- 50:25SPEAKER_02: you know, have that D one or bus mentality.
- 50:28SPEAKER_02: And I just think it's like silly.
- 50:30SPEAKER_02: I think,
- 50:30SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 50:31SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 50:31SPEAKER_02: I think if that dream of going D one doesn't come to fruition,
- 50:35SPEAKER_02: like you can still have a very,
- 50:37SPEAKER_02: very competitive career at the division three level.
- 50:41SPEAKER_02: You can compete for Olympic teams.
- 50:43SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 50:44SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 50:44Joseph Rao was a national champ at division three wrestling and
- 50:47then made an
- 50:48SPEAKER_02: Olympic team for Greco Roman.
- 50:50SPEAKER_02: Uh, you know, and there's examples of that.
- 50:53SPEAKER_02: Um,
- 50:54You can take Division III wrestling or your experience as much
- 50:59as you want to go.
- 51:00SPEAKER_02: The experience, you make it.
- 51:02Just the more knowledge that we continue to spread about
- 51:04Division III athletics,
- 51:05SPEAKER_02: I think it's awesome.
- 51:06SPEAKER_02: It's a great opportunity for,
- 51:08SPEAKER_02: I would say,
- 51:09SPEAKER_02: the majority of high school student-athletes at this point.
- 51:13SPEAKER_02: Division I is becoming pro, professional, semi-pro.
- 51:17You could say basketball and football is pretty much
- 51:19professional at this point.
- 51:21SPEAKER_02: Um, and, uh, for other sports.
- 51:23So if you want to go to a place that's really supported and
- 51:27cares about all the
- 51:27SPEAKER_02: student athletes,
- 51:28SPEAKER_02: like D three is,
- 51:29SPEAKER_02: is far and few between.
- 51:31SPEAKER_02: And,
- 51:31SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 51:32SPEAKER_02: yeah,
- 51:32SPEAKER_02: I mean,
- 51:32SPEAKER_02: follow us on,
- 51:33SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 51:33SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 51:33SPEAKER_02: you can follow my X account,
- 51:36SPEAKER_02: uh,
- 51:36SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 51:36coach a bond D three nation podcast for the podcast and duck
- 51:40wrestling for,
- 51:41SPEAKER_02: you know,
- 51:41SPEAKER_02: the wrestling team,
- 51:42but a lot of ways that you continue to find good content about
- 51:45division three
- 51:46SPEAKER_02: wrestling.
- 51:48SPEAKER_01: Great.
- 51:49SPEAKER_01: And with that said, let's go to the last question.
- 51:52SPEAKER_01: We ask this of every former athlete, every former D3 athlete we talk to.
- 51:57SPEAKER_01: So if you could go back and talk to your 18-year-old self,
- 52:00SPEAKER_01: what advice would you give 18-year-old Anthony?
- 52:06I think the advice I would give is it's honestly grown,
- 52:13but don't think too small,
- 52:16right?
- 52:18enjoy every moment because it goes by very very quickly and um
- 52:24what you can you can
- 52:25compete right away you can be the guy right away you can
- 52:28compete for your goals
- 52:29right away like you don't need to wait right i think i think
- 52:33sometimes you know
- 52:35you're the big man on campus coming out of high school and it's
- 52:37like you gotta kind
- 52:39SPEAKER_02: of figure out your way at the college level and um
- 52:43SPEAKER_02: You don't got to take it slow.
- 52:45SPEAKER_02: Continue to be the guy.
- 52:47SPEAKER_02: You got to seek those challenges.
- 52:49SPEAKER_02: You got to find a way to close the gap.
- 52:50SPEAKER_02: It's not going to be easy.
- 52:52SPEAKER_02: But have your goals big.
- 52:54SPEAKER_02: Go chase your goals right away.
- 52:56SPEAKER_02: You don't need to wait for anything.
- 52:58SPEAKER_02: Just make it happen.
- 53:00SPEAKER_02: And that goes from the lifestyle right away.
- 53:02SPEAKER_02: And take advantage of all those opportunities that come your way.
- 53:08SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
- 53:09SPEAKER_01: Perfect.
- 53:09SPEAKER_01: We'll close there.
- 53:11SPEAKER_01: This has been another live Q&A with the D3 head coach.
- 53:14This time,
- 53:15Coach Anthony Bonaventura from Stevens Institute of Technology.
- 53:21He also was a former Waynesburg athlete,
- 53:23male scholar,
- 53:24athlete of the year.
- 53:25SPEAKER_01: He's a podcast host.
- 53:26SPEAKER_01: This guy does it all.
- 53:27SPEAKER_01: So, Coach Anthony, thanks for joining us.
- 53:30SPEAKER_02: Man, I appreciate the time and keep up the good work.
- 53:33SPEAKER_00: All right.
- 53:34SPEAKER_00: We'll see you guys next time.
- 53:35SPEAKER_00: Thanks for joining us.