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- Breaking The Meta: And so when I saw Liam the other day, that five-year-old who I can't even tell you how much I saw myself in that child and in that moment knowing how scary it must have been. ⁓ you Hello everyone and welcome to Breaking the Meta. This is Mike Quinson. Today we are sitting down with Jordan Herrera who is running for the US's fourth district in the state of Missouri. We're excited to sit down here and find out what Jordan hopes to do for his district and why he decided to jump into the craziness that is the United States House of Representatives. Jordan, hello. Thanks for being here. Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate the opportunity. Absolutely. Absolutely. So, ⁓ the way I usually start this is if you wouldn't mind letting anyone who doesn't know Missouri or even maybe people who are in Missouri and just happen to not know what area of Missouri is, is the fourth district. Yeah, that's a great question. And it's also going to be a somewhat nuanced answer here because the fifth congressional district was the very district here in Missouri that Donald Trump singled out across the country. He, he wanted to read district in states for sure. Missouri being one of them, but the fifth was the only district he zeroed in on here in Missouri. So our district has been broken up into three districts. So I was originally running in the fifth. However, I was redrawn into the fourth and I am now running in the fourth against Congressman Mark Alford. And we've been on the new gerrymandered maps since September of 2025. And a lot of folks here in Missouri are still confused. about which district they're actually in because of gerrymandering. So could you tell people about what kind of areas are involved in the fourth? Yeah. So currently under the new Missouri first map, there is a carve out of the panhandle of Jackson County that cuts Kansas City basically in half. Now the downtown corridor, which used to be part of the fifth is now part of the fourth and it's blended in with about four, 15 other counties, ⁓ a total in the fourth. And it goes all the way down to Webster, which is about 250 miles away ⁓ and all the way down to Dade County. So what we're talking about is downtown Kansas City in the same district as another small town, maybe a couple hundred people in a far off county. And so it's my job now to find those bridging issues that we can find, you know, and there are plenty. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So let's start off with you giving us a little bit of background on who you are. And why you decided to run for Congress in the first place. Yeah. So who I am. ⁓ Well, I was born and raised in Nebraska, and this is integral to my story. ⁓ I have a call to action that says, wake up the neighbors. And the way I grew up was from the age of five to 12. I lived in a home full of domestic violence, and it was the most extreme violence you can imagine. My parents were both under the age of 25 and they had three boys with limited financial planning skills and limited social networks to support us. This was in the early nineties. ⁓ so my parents did what a lot of Americans are doing right now. They didn't know how to process, you know, what they were going through. So they chose to drink. And unfortunately that came out in physical abuse toward one another and sometimes toward us as children. When those moments would arise over that period of time, it was my job to run out of the house, find the neighbor, knock on their door until they woke up, wake them up and call the police, get the necessary resources home to save my mom or my brothers and get the fighting to stop. Much in the same way today, I am letting folks know my neighbors and in my community, there is a fight going on in our House of Representatives. And if we do not call in the right resources right now. Young boys, young brown boys and girls, young black boys and girls who are often not seen by the system will be continually forgotten and marginalized. Single moms will not have a resource to get social security benefits for their children if necessary from a decedent father. I've seen that happen in our district. Single moms with two kids are one of the two groups going into homelessness the fastest in this country. The other group is the elderly. Waking up the neighbors is about taking those things that happen in DC and reminding folks they actually affect you on your main street, on your side streets, in your living room, in your kitchens. And if you're not invested or if you're not willing to influence politics, you will be influenced by it. For me, it's a four-letter word, duty. That's why I ran and got out of the house as a child. what called me into service into the Air Force. And I served honorably for 16 years, just under 16 years, excuse me, as a biomedical engineer. And I served in Iraq, Afghanistan, proud of my service. But from 2006 until 2022, I had to say goodbye to a lot of people who are no longer with us. I am a three time survivor of self harm brought on by combat PTSD and a two time survivor of military sexual trauma. ⁓ I tell these stories because it saves lives and it opens new conversations. ⁓ And it also exposes the reality of what it is to serve. It is not the easiest occupation in the world. After PTSD made a decision for me, which is why I left at about 15 and a half years of service, ⁓ I then went into law school. I wanted to get out of healthcare. I pulled in Elwoods and I said, how hard can it be? that was my own fault. joined an accelerated law program called Skateboard at Southwestern University in Los Angeles, and they compress a three-year degree into two. yeah, so getting a law degree in two years is very, very hard, ⁓ but it was well worth it. And I brought that license back here to Missouri. practiced as an assistant attorney general for our state. Now I'm committed to standing up. for more people as a representative in the United States Congress House of Representatives. That's amazing. ⁓ Having gone through all of that and still being willing to go through arguably what could cause a whole different kind of PTSD is pretty amazing. And I thank you for being willing to even consider it, regardless of what happens in the future. So if you could now ⁓ give everyone who's listening just a little idea of what the pain points, what the things that you're hearing from people as you're talking, as you're walking through your district and talking to them, what are the kind of things that people are talking to you about? Where they need help, where the problems are, where they need the federal government to step in and help out? Yeah. So the pain point is number one, it's housing. Number one, it's housing. so let's start with homelessness first. The number one and number two reasons why people are going into homelessness today. Number one, housing costs. Number two, four out of 10 people in homelessness today cite healthcare as their reason for homelessness. So it's everyday life in America that people are being unhoused in. So when we're talking about the housing issue, we first need to understand what's the leading causes of homelessness. We need to also talk to those who are most vulnerable, those who are in house today, and find out from them what led to their situation. My campaign manager and I, we do a lot of public service work. We visited every transitional housing program and homeless shelter in the Kansas City metro area. And we've formed a great relation. Thank you. We formed a really great relationship with our homeless community and with those who are really putting their hands into the work. to figure out the problems. so where that leads us into housing affordability today. Most folks cannot afford the way of life it is today in America. Commodities are too expensive, groceries are too expensive, services are now going to be taxed in the state of Missouri. ⁓ Things like that are just making everyday life harder and harder for Americans. So when we're talking about economic stability, which is my number one pillar. What I mean by that is that it is my belief that every American should be able to housing, healthcare, education, and food security on one job. Whether you're a single parent or working families, one job. And if we are building our economy for those families and for single parents, then we know that we are taking care of those who have it the hardest. We are going to capture everyone in that net. But if we build it for multi-income homes, that's just not the reality for millions of Americans, especially parents who have to make that decision with children on whether or not both parents are going to work and whether or not it's cost efficient when childcare might deplete the entire check of another. Yeah. And I'm assuming that your district, just like many others, especially ones with rural areas in it, are dealing with... ⁓ some potential major backlash when it comes to the housing, ⁓ healthcare subsidies going away and, ⁓ all the cuts that are going to come from the one big, bill. No, you're exactly dead on. So I live in Missouri in the fourth congressional district. It's, it's also south of Kansas city. encompasses, ⁓ two air, ⁓ an air force base and a, an army, ⁓ Fort Leonard wood. and Whiteman Air Force Base are there. In there, there's hundreds of farmers, ⁓ hundreds of thousands of people live in the district. Now, one particular hospital, Bothwell, is about 30 minutes from Whiteman Air Force Base. The next nearest hospital is about two and a half to three hours. Depending on what your emergency is, in Pettus County, Sedalia, Missouri today, they are worried about their hospital closing. Not only is the hospital the biggest employer in Sedalia, which employs over 380, close to 400 people. But if it shuts down, that means emergency care, clinical care, advanced care for those military members on Whiteman, as well as Johnson and Pettus County and the surrounding areas are now going to be diverted either to Kansas City, which is even further, ⁓ or Columbia, which is about a two hour drive. So if you can imagine a heart attack, a stroke, you know, These things which normally could be treated and should be right now as a result of Mark Alford's vote to gut Medicaid and protect the wealthiest Americans. What it meant was rural hospitals here in Missouri are at risk of closure. have two in our congressional district. Fitzgibbon, which is in Lexington, ⁓ Lafayette County, and then the one I just mentioned, Bothwell, which is in Sedalia. Who would also say this, you know, with healthcare. ⁓ My version of a healthcare future starts with a public insurance option. I am focused on Medicare for all. That is the end state that I hope to get to. But I think a public insurance option is the vehicle to take us there, but we've got to incentivize it. And one proposal I've thrown out there that is resonating very well here in Missouri, which is this. If you're elderly and your disabled adults and children deserve care under their healthcare coverage. Why don't children, all three groups, whether you're elderly, disabled, or a child, you're reliant on somebody else for care? You can't do it on your own, but it's only with the elderly and the disabled that we find justice in giving them healthcare. We don't see justice in giving children childcare services as a form of preventative care, which it absolutely can be. So in my public insurance option, I would advocate that childcare which is a huge barrier to young families to get started, that needs to be covered in our healthcare future. Yeah. Can't argue any of that. ⁓ So obviously we're also dealing with... Well, I should... One of the things that we are dealing with the most in this country right now is lack of accountability for our politicians. no matter what this administration says. And it's not just this current administration, it's all politicians as a whole. There's a supreme lack of accountability going on. What does accountability look like to you? What does you being held accountable by your district look like? And what do you see accountability of the House of Representatives or Congress in general looking like? Accountability is a fantastic word to use in this time in particular, right? ⁓ For instance, Greg Bovino, I'm glad that he's no longer the commander of ICE. However, it also appears that he's just been moved to a new state, which that does not solve the problem. ⁓ Same way with the person who recently murdered Alex Preti in the street. He seems like he's been moved. So when we're talking about accountability, let's start there. That is the most pressing issues. It's not just two Americans who've been murdered by ⁓ ICE federal officers, right? 30 other people died in 2025 before them. And over the course of ICE doing their operations, there are over 200 documented sexual assaults within ICE facilities. The tragedy and the trauma is real, right? We just, and they're not just taking the worst of these or any of that kind of crap. Because they just took a five-year-old boy named Liam Ramos the other day and used him as human bait. And then he and his father, even though he has every right to be here and be with his mother, they still took the boy and sent him. And now Liam is just south of San Antonio at the Dilley Detention Center. And if you just saw, they were protesting outside of that detention center just the other day. It is horrible conditions, horrible conditions. Now working at the AAG's office or ⁓ the AGO office, attorney general's office, I was inside every single Missouri prison. I had the opportunity to see firsthand, you know, what are the conditions and what are they like? And I can tell you this much in a city like Kansas City where police have civil liabilities rising to $23 million annually. That's a problem. There's no accountability. When we see that also in our Missouri prisons, There's no accountability. And what's most frustrating is it's vulnerable people who are getting hurt. Whether you believe that an incarcerated person is vulnerable or not, I'm here to tell you that they are. In that situation they are. When you're in the care and custody of the state, it is the state's responsibility to ensure that you are safe and healthy and you are being rehabilitated and rejoin us here in society. But that's not exactly the system we see at play. So what I look for in terms of my own kind of accountability. Now I've already shown to my country for 16 years, just under 16 years, that I can serve honorably, to put service before self. And I think what every American needs to know today is I am not beholden to any party, whether it's the Democrats or the Republicans, I care about getting work done. So if that's what I am focused on is forming the largest pro-democracy coalition with the strongest economic populist message we can deliver. If you're willing to work with me on that, I don't care what team you're on. I'm going to get your help. And truthfully, there are a lot of McCain Republicans out there that are uncomfortable with a MAGA publican movement, right? This awful thing that has taken over our government. Maybe I can't give them a permanent home in the Big 10 party. But what I can do is give them affordable rent, security, safety, and healthcare, and a path to education while they're a part of my Big Ten. And maybe they'll be willing to stay and work with me to get more things done. That's the opportunity that's presented to us right now. And if we find those key issues, like the ones I'm talking about, healthcare, housing, education, and food security are the connecting issues. It doesn't matter if you're in Warrensburg or Lebanon, Missouri, or Kansas City. Housing is unaffordable. There's rampant food insecurity. Healthcare is a disaster nationwide. And education is just out of reach for millions. In fact, Pell Grants, which allowed my mother to go back to school before, are now requiring not only do you have to be full-time in school, but a full-time employee as well. It's unbelievable, and they lowered the caps. So it forecloses occupations. to which you could even attain or rise to. That's not the America I believe in. So for me, accountability is putting check marks on all of those things. And when I'm talking about these issues, it's not just Jordan Herrera, because frankly, I do not matter. ⁓ I tell the story of our district. That's what advocates do. That's why I was successful in the courtroom. That's why I'm going to win is because I listen and I tell the story of us. So obviously your district has Republicans and Democrats in it. And we live in a time where even though you've said it yourself, where you don't want to look at the letter next to someone's name or who they identify as, there is the unfortunate fact that there are people in this country that do focus on that, sometimes to the exclusion of all else. What has your experience been like? talking to people ⁓ who consider themselves Republicans and find out that you have a D next to your name. Some people are kind of surprised by it, to be honest. ⁓ So I grew up in the panhandle of Nebraska, like I had mentioned before. ⁓ My second job I ever had, I was making lead ball shot and black cotton wad patch and bore cleaner for black powder rifles. Wow. ⁓ I was doing butt stock fabrication. Yeah. weapons and ammunition. Nebraska for a company at that team called Sagebrush. It's no longer around, unfortunately. It folded a while ago, but a great company and it was awesome. I got to learn how to make that kind of ammunition. And we also supported a mountain man retreat called Rendezvous ⁓ out in Nebraska, which is, you go out and you live like a person on the prairie again. ⁓ So it's really cool. It's a fun way to get in touch with, you know, your cultural history there within your state. ⁓ So that was my second job. I then worked as an Airman, you know, for the United States Air Force for that entire duration. during that time, I was not only Airman of the Year for the Armed Forces in Europe, I was also Non-Commissioned Officer of the Year twice, Military Outstanding Volunteer of the Year once, a Lansby-Side John nominee twice, a John Levito Leadership Award winner. because it was the number one graduate in my non-commissioned officers academy. And it was also senior non-commissioned officer of the year, which eventually would lead to us earning multiple, multiple awards for our clinics, for my operations and programs. ⁓ What I have to say is also, you know, when it comes to reaching across the aisle, I worked for Andrew Bailey. And in my first case, because I do get a lot of guff from Democrats, you're like, why would you do that? Well, my first case was a black trans woman. who is living with HIV and she was in our Missouri prison, men's prison. Now she had also been put in solitary confinement without meaningful due process or a review for six years. Right. A horrible tragedy. Now remember, I worked for the state and at this time when the case is now being handled and mediated, she's already been released on parole. She's out into society and unfortunately something in her life happened and she's no longer with us. So there was no way to really account for money or anything like that. But what we did instead was we changed our trans policy in our Missouri prisons, as well as our HIV policy in Missouri prisons. So even though I worked for Andrew Bailey, that kind of level of work still happened silently and quietly without a single paper or headline being made. Bailey didn't even know about that, but it happened because I was there because somebody with a heart, compassionate, could understand so why I'm saying all of this is in all of those environments, Nebraska, the military, ⁓ hell even law school, or working for Andrew Bailey, these are historically conservative environments. It doesn't matter who you're working next to, it matters how you're working with them. If you can see past the R and the D and recognize that all ideas are equal weight and value, it's what you put into it that changes it. The action you put into those ideas are what make them terrible or not. But in their form, in an idea state, whether we agree politically on the second amendment, which I think everybody agrees politically on the second amendment, that we just want a little more safety in this country so we don't have violence in our schools. ⁓ Or from mass vigil, know, mass police. Not to be too on the nose there, but yeah. Sorry about that. ⁓ Then I got distracted and I lost one point. No, you're good. You're good. ⁓ I think it's definitely hard and I appreciate people that are willing to have those kind of conversations with people. And it's great to see that you're able to do that. ⁓ Yeah, I remember when I... This was the closer year. If we're doing our party justice, right, whether you're a Democrat, independent, I'm a proud Democrat. ⁓ Whether you're doing your party or your community justice, you should still be reaching out to those who have not been reached out to, to hear their perspective. I intentionally and deliberately talk to farmers. I intentionally and deliberately attend conservative meetings. In fact, I was just at one last night where I spoke face to face with Mark Alford and it was at ⁓ a Cass County Veterans Coalition meeting. And that sounds great, Veterans Coalition. It's very much. not nonpartisan. I'm still there and I was still allowed to participate because I am a veteran and I am a constituent. But I don't think they really wanted me there. But the point is, is you have to be willing to go into rooms like that, filled with conservatives and even your opponent and look them square in the face and hold them accountable professionally. I was petrified going in there. I had my passport with me and numerous people knew exactly where I was going and when I should be leaving in case I got rounded up. But you still go. You still make the call. You walk over that threshold and through the doorstep because there are thousands of people behind you. And you may never see them, right? I may never see them, but I know they're behind me. And so I have to get up no matter how scary it is or how anxious I am. I have to keep moving forward. Obviously, there's been a lot of stuff going on in the United States over the last year. You talked about obviously what's going on with ICE across the country. But we've also had a lot of things that have changed where we as a country sit in regards to the world stage, whether you're talking Greenland or Venezuela or the tariffs. regardless of what this administration thinks, our place at the world stage has changed. Who knows what it will look like in the end, but it will be different. How do you see America's foreign policy and place in the world going forward? Yeah. That's a wonderful question. actually, so part of my background is I have a degree in political science, but I have a separate one in US military history, but it's a focus on battle and strategy throughout world history. So when we're talking about, you know, the new world order that's coming forward, ⁓ I'm looking at this from a 50,000 foot view from an informed person who has seen warfare and studied warfare throughout the millennia. What I see right now, there's some very specific things that I want to draw attention to. Number one, Iran. Last year, the United States, we bombed their enriched uranium, right? And then we missed. How often does the United States miss a target of that importance? Have you ever heard of us missing a target of that importance? No, not. I haven't. I'm at least not confirmed. Right. Well, and then here, because it didn't blow up, we didn't get the target because we then saw them moving the enriched uranium to a new location via convoy truck. When does the United States ever let a valuable target like that get transported? cannot think of a time when we would do something like that, especially with Iran. Especially with Iran. And if you have any kind of experience with foreign affairs, You know that Iran is a proxy state of Russia. So isn't it also curious that Russia didn't do anything? However, our policy has been slightly easing as it relates to Ukraine and really pulling back as it relates to NATO and our European support. In fact, in our national strategic strategy, it was almost denigrating and it was denigrating Europeans for blaming Europe as a continent for allowing too many immigrants into it. And it's ruining its European heritage, I believe was the phrase. And if that doesn't scream Third Reich to you, I don't know what does. But they're worried about European heritage. ⁓ Why thought this was America first? Okay, next, we invade Venezuela, we capture their president and his wife. No one can justify why his wife needed to be abducted. And then furthermore, we double down on we want to invade and we want to take over their government as leadership. And then, by the way, there's Cuba on the menu now in Greenland as well. I've said this for a long time. What happens to Ukraine, Taiwan will follow. If we do not stand up for Ukraine, we will not stand up for Taiwan. There's a theory going around and I just heard it on NPR today and I'm very happy about this. It's called the spheres of influence theory. That Europe is being left to Putin, ⁓ that Taiwan and the rest of Asia will be left to Xi Jinping. And that the United States will be pulling out of there and we will be the maintainers, the dominant force over the quote unquote Western hemisphere. And if you remember, Donald Trump last year proposed that the United States needs to kick China off of the Panama Canal and take it back. So there are numerous instances where this is plugged in throughout his own statements. And if you remember, he's been talking about Western hemisphere, but he doesn't know about the word affordability or groceries. Who taught him Western hemisphere? Right? ⁓ He's trying to divorce us from the Asian market, which is probably a good thing. I think that's smart. And if you look on my website, my plan calls for bilateral nation building, we're central in South America, not exploitation. His policy is exploitation and it will re-traumatize that entire area again. And if you know anything about our foreign policy, United States has already invaded and toppled and installed leaders of their own. throughout Central and South America since the 1950s. The immigration and drug problem we have is because we made the area destabilized. Such that we have these issues today, if you do not think that we are re-traumatizing them again, you are wrong. The problems will get worse. I think nation building is the right answer. We address immigration at the source rather than allowing individuals to traverse thousands of miles to get to us, only for us to treat them coldly. ⁓ Only for us to send them back where they came from. I can't think of the another more inhumane thing to do. know, And yeah, just because this is my community. I want to paint a picture for all the dads out there because there's this misnomer of who's coming here and why. In Guatemala, your daughter will not get health care adequately. She will have rampant food insecurity her entire life. And in Guatemala, you will not get an education if you're a girl. So the question I asked the conservatives even is how many miles are you willing to walk so your daughter can have a future? Suddenly their answer changes. And that's how we also changed the argument around this. We have to humanize this group of people. The other side of the aisle has done everything they can to dehumanize. We have to tell their stories. I want to do a little future casting. So we get through the primaries. You get through the general election, you win. January 2nd comes around, you get sworn in. What's the first thing you do? I think the first thing that we do, ⁓ God willing, ⁓ the Democrats will have both houses of Congress back. And when that does happen, ⁓ immediately the check and balance is reinstated. We are putting the brakes on Donald Trump in terms of DHS spending, ⁓ DOW spending. interventionist attitudes as it relates to Venezuela, Greenland, and the rest. ⁓ When it relates to our foreign policy, ⁓ there needs to be a lot of work done there. Although that's traditionally left to the executive branch, there are ways in which our Congress can still get involved in state affairs and build our nation back and repair these relationships. Regardless, Donald Trump has... an expiration date. So I'm focused on his expiration date when he's out of office and doing everything I can to set us up for when that comes. Now, God willing, it will be an easy transition of power and we will be done with this mess and it will be a stain on our history and we can move past it. I hope and pray that it will be that easy, but if January 6th was a foreshadow to anything, I don't think it's going to be that easy. And so Another reason why we need to be electing Democrats today who are ready to go on to the dais with a message of strength and unity, but also a backbone and a spine with skills like I bring to the table, strategic planning, battle planning, and ways to look at problems in a military mindset that others might miss, smaller details. I'm supposed to say this because I don't want to paint the grimace picture because I kind of did that on accident. You know, here's what I also believe. Medicare and Medicaid entitlements need to be restored. We need to do everything we can to divert ⁓ our funding to more domestic issues. And like I said, I'm focused on those four prevailing problems, housing, healthcare, education, and food security. ⁓ That's where Americans need the most help today. ⁓ That's where I think we need to be spending all of our effort. ⁓ Totally agree. So as we as we get towards the end, ⁓ for anyone that has listened all the way to this point or has watched all the way to this point, what is one thing that you want to make sure that they walk away remembering about you and this campaign? I live by a few sets of phrases that keep me motivated and going. ⁓ One of them is vulnerability begets vulnerability and trust begets trust. If you want people to trust you, You have to give your trust freely and openly first. And sometimes that's hard. And if you want people to tell you the real problems, the pain points in their life, that's vulnerability. You need to be willing to be vulnerable first. What I tell is ⁓ the real story of an American. I'm not your perfect politician and I am not your perfect veteran. I'm a real person who's lived through adversity and struggle. I started out with a GED and now I have a JD. It took me 16 years of sacrifice to get there. I believe in making it easier and more attainable for people, ⁓ in particular those who grew up in poverty and don't have an option ⁓ but to fight for everything they get. What I need folks to see about me is also I've been running my campaign, like I mentioned before, on disability income alone, and I'm trying my best not to take any corporate PAC money today. I've taken none. It's hard. It's exhausting. It's the best work I've ever done in my entire life. Yeah. I couldn't see myself doing anything different because in a lot of ways I am still trying to take care of that little boy who didn't have a protector. And so when I saw Liam the other day, that five-year-old who I can't even tell you how much I saw myself in that child and in that moment knowing how scary it must have been. And so ⁓ I wrote something also, and this will also encapsulate everything. To anybody who's scared about getting invested or involved, you can either be influenced by politics or influence it. It's your choice. But I had to write something to keep myself in the fight, and it's called My Anxiety is My Superpower. And so I'm going to read that very briefly to you. When the anxiety of doing nothing is greater than the anxiety of acting, I act. When the fear of standing still is heavier than the fear of standing up, I stand. When the fear of silence outweighs the fear of speaking, I speak. When the fear of apathy is greater than the fear of failure, I run for office. And that's what I need everybody to believe in. The fear of doing nothing at this point for me is greater than the fear of failure. And I think most of us are there. anybody wants to learn more about you or support your campaign, where can they find you? Very easy to find me. It's just my name, JordanJHarrera.com. And if you go to my campaign website, you'll find all the links to my social media accounts. We are on every platform possible. ⁓ You'll also find a link to volunteer. ⁓ I need people to help me. I have a rule that every day we are making two contacts per day. here's my ism for that. Democracy is a contact sport. It only works with your participation. So two contacts per day. Either that's a phone call, a text message, you're leaving a comment on a social media post, you're sharing a post. Two contacts per day and we can build this big blue wave. But go to JordanJHarrera.com to learn more about me, reasons why I'm running, my position on every issue from Gaza to women's rights. It's all out there for you. Are there more people in the fourth district running for the primary or are you the only Democrat? There are two other Democrats who are running. ⁓ One, she's ran twice before and unfortunately, in her last run, she failed to capture even a third of the vote. ⁓ think she's electable in this cycle, I do believe I am the more qualified candidate. ⁓ Being 38, I do bring a perspective that's different than what she is offering. The other candidate who's in the race is ⁓ Mr. Hartzell Gray. And quite frankly, I appreciate his message, but ⁓ he's a little bit too of an activist and extremist in his positions for me. I also get a sort of sense of anti-war or anti-militaryisms. which I don't appreciate. ⁓ so as a veteran in particular, so yeah, I would say like out of those who are running in this race, now I will also mention Danny province and Ricky Dana, two great men who were also running in this race. ⁓ they reached out to me, we had conversations, they wound up suspending their races and endorsing me entirely. And they're working with me to get elected. ⁓ but their voices are included in this campaign. It's not, I am not important. It's the story of us. The reason I ask is, so when is the primary for for Missouri? The primary is in August. So we got six more months of a slog to go. I've been, like I said, doing this for a year now. it's. I'm ready. I'm ready for the prank. But at same time, I'm not ready for the primary. So I wish ours was sooner so we could get Democratic National Party investment sooner. But. That's where we're at. So please, if you can, donate to the campaign. Donate directly to candidates. Also, that helps us more than you do. Yeah. Yeah. Jordan, thank you so much for sitting down and talking with us. I really do appreciate learning about you and this amazing campaign and what you hope to do for your district in this country. For everyone else who got this far, thank you so much for listening. Please hit all those buttons below. It really does help out everything that we do. It makes it possible for me to keep coming on here. and making this content and interviewing amazing people like Jordan who want to help this country so much. For anyone that doesn't know anything about breaking the meta, we are about having hard conversations because those are needed sometimes. 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