Latest / Booked On Rock with Eric Senich / The Yoko Ono Myth: Who Really Broke Up The Beatles? [Highlight From Episode 359]
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Check out this clip from a recent episode of Booked
- 0:02Speaker 1: on Rock. Our guest is author and journalist Madeline Bacaro
- 0:05Speaker 1: or book in Your Mind The Infinite Universe of Yoko Ono.
- 0:09Speaker 1: One of the biggest narratives around Yoko Ono is her
- 0:12Speaker 1: relationship with the Beatles through her relationship with John. What
- 0:16Speaker 1: are the biggest misconceptions about her role in that story?
- 0:19Speaker 1: What does history actually show?
- 0:21Speaker 2: History shows and the Beatles have actually stated that, you know,
- 0:25Speaker 2: they were on the verge of breaking up before she
- 0:29Speaker 2: entered the picture, and there was so many tensions due
- 0:33Speaker 2: to managerial problems, George wanting to put out his own songs.
- 0:37Speaker 2: He had a double triple album pretty much ready to
- 0:41Speaker 2: go all things must pass, and he was feeling stifled
- 0:44Speaker 2: in the group. Everybody was upset except maybe Paul. You know,
- 0:49Speaker 2: Paul wanted to continue, but you know, she just came
- 0:53Speaker 2: along at that time. But actually she didn't want the
- 0:56Speaker 2: Beatles to break up. When John told her he was
- 1:00Speaker 2: leaving the Beatles, he actually turned to her and said, okay,
- 1:04Speaker 2: now it's just you and me, and she was devastated.
- 1:07Speaker 2: She's like, well, wait a minute, what's he going to do?
- 1:09Speaker 2: When what's he going to be preoccupied with, well, I'm
- 1:12Speaker 2: doing my work because she was first and foremost an artist,
- 1:15Speaker 2: and she didn't know that were going to collaborate so
- 1:19Speaker 2: well and hit the ground running. But they did and
- 1:22Speaker 2: everything was okay. But you know, she was really nervous there.
- 1:26Speaker 1: And that goes against the narrative that people thought that
- 1:29Speaker 1: she was looking to break up the Beatles.
- 1:31Speaker 2: Yeah, and in the book, I have quotes from hundreds
- 1:34Speaker 2: of quotes, mostly from her, but a lot from you know, John, Paul,
- 1:39Speaker 2: people that worked with them, Ringo even and just musicians
- 1:44Speaker 2: who worked with her and people who knew her, and
- 1:47Speaker 2: it all they all weave the story and it's quotes
- 1:50Speaker 2: from the time, so it's not anything people are saying
- 1:53Speaker 2: in hindsight and speculating. It's all, you know, it's how
- 1:57Speaker 2: the whole story happened.
- 2:00Speaker 1: How did she get along with the rest of the
- 2:01Speaker 1: members of the band and go Paul and George.
- 2:04Speaker 2: In the beginning, there's an audio tape of her saying,
- 2:07Speaker 2: you know, Paul and John are so so close, and
- 2:10Speaker 2: Paul has been very respectful to me. He's almost like
- 2:12Speaker 2: a brother. It's really really nice. Like in the beginning,
- 2:16Speaker 2: and then you know, when John brought her into the studio.
- 2:20Speaker 2: There was some animosity because nobody had really brought their
- 2:24Speaker 2: others into the studio. But Ringo was always very cool
- 2:29Speaker 2: with her. He loves her. They all have that piece
- 2:32Speaker 2: and love vibe going, and you know, he visits her
- 2:34Speaker 2: whenever he's in New York. And Ringo was always cool,
- 2:38Speaker 2: and it was just really Paul that had a big
- 2:40Speaker 2: problem and George, you know, but Paul came around later
- 2:44Speaker 2: and said, look, if he really loves this woman, yeah,
- 2:47Speaker 2: I'm not going to fight it anymore. So that was that.
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