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THROWBACK: 2020 · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: week is The Breakfast Club thirty morning. Everybody is DJ Envy,
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  Speaker 1: Angela Yee, Charlomagne the guy. We are the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: We got special guests in the building. She's in here
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  Speaker 1: with all this big queen energy. Ari A Lennox Welcome,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you so much. How you feel this morning? Horror
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  Speaker 1: pid All right, I'm just a little nervous, you only
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  Speaker 1: because he's just kidding. Yeah, but it's a little nervous.
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  Speaker 1: It's a very legendary show. So what took you so
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  Speaker 1: long to come up hitting beer beer? Yeah? What you
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  Speaker 1: scared of before? And yeah, I love we had to
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  Speaker 1: get to No, it's just you know, y'all can be
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  Speaker 1: a little tough on people sometimes. Yeah, we've evolved, You've
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  Speaker 1: changed the whole lots. Yeah, and I feel that I
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  Speaker 1: feel that I want to if you don't mind, you know,
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  Speaker 1: for people that that don't know who Arilens is or
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  Speaker 1: where you're signed to or how you got your story.
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  Speaker 1: I want to start from the beginning for those people.
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  Speaker 1: Since this is you, you're here to do a documentary.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so you're signed to J Cole. How did
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  Speaker 1: you get into the music industry and signed to Cole? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I was working at Public storage and just dropping music
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  Speaker 1: on SoundCloud and there's an amazing rapper named Omen. He
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  Speaker 1: loved my music. He told Eve and Cole about it,
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  Speaker 1: and he was like, we'll fly you out like tomorrow
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  Speaker 1: or tonight something like that so that you can meet
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  Speaker 1: Cole and the studio and stuff like that. And I
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  Speaker 1: was horrified. You know, I just got the job. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't want to lose the job. It was ten dollars
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  Speaker 1: an hour, you know what it meant. It was the
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  Speaker 1: highest paid job I ever had an hour. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: I didn't want to like lose this, so I almost
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  Speaker 1: didn't go. But honestly, I think it was fear, you know,
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  Speaker 1: fear of flying and things like that. But I just
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  Speaker 1: I got over it. I drank Matt vodka and I
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  Speaker 1: got on that flight. I was the first flight as well,
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  Speaker 1: first flight in a long time, like years. Did you
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  Speaker 1: lose your job? Yeah? I did, and I was I
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  Speaker 1: was horrified and I started doing uber. First of all,
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  Speaker 1: what were you afraid? Why are you afraid of fly? Well?
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  Speaker 1: I had a traumatic experience when I was young on
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  Speaker 1: a flight or or something. Yeah, well the engines went
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  Speaker 1: out and so yeah and so as yeah, so as
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  Speaker 1: we're about to land, he's basically telling us to brace
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  Speaker 1: for impact. And I was very young and just praying.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't remember having fear before that moment. But
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  Speaker 1: after that moment, I was just scared at trumble. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so absolutely. Now let's let's let's rewind. Now you lose
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  Speaker 1: your job and you become a looble driver. I can't
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  Speaker 1: see you are h am I good driver? It depends.
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  Speaker 1: I'm very safe at driving, yes, but there are things
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  Speaker 1: that have happened where it's just like I could have
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  Speaker 1: been more a little bit more alert. Okay, where you
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  Speaker 1: Where was your star rating? My star rating? Oh? It
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  Speaker 1: started dropping like crazy, and and I don't, I don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know why. Some people thought I was driving
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  Speaker 1: too fast or one note I got was I was
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  Speaker 1: switching lanes too much. But I was trying to get them, man,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what Hell, yeah, I was public storage. No,
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  Speaker 1: I didn't have no big fancy you know, tell me. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it was just a nice flack interior and a big
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  Speaker 1: bowl of candy and drivers have candy. Yes, I did
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  Speaker 1: have much I would give because you know you can't trust.
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  Speaker 1: Did you play your own music? I did? No, not
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  Speaker 1: my I would never, I mean never never. No. Did
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  Speaker 1: you make conversation or were you quiet? I made some
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  Speaker 1: conversations sometimes. Um, three times people threw up in my car?
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  Speaker 1: How does that work? Do they pay for it? Or
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  Speaker 1: they pay for it but it's nowhere near enough and
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  Speaker 1: then you lose like five days of work because your
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  Speaker 1: car stinks and you're traumatized. How long did you have
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  Speaker 1: the Uber job for? This is interesting. This is my
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  Speaker 1: longest job today. Uber. I probably did for like at
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  Speaker 1: least a year or something. Wow. Yeah, I guess the
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  Speaker 1: media didn't go well because you lost your job, but
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  Speaker 1: then you started driving Uber. No, the meeting went really well.
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  Speaker 1: I just you know, I had to still make money.
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  Speaker 1: You know, they were still you know, taking their time
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  Speaker 1: with the idea of like signing me. It wasn't like
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  Speaker 1: an immediate This is my last uber question when you
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  Speaker 1: saw that. When you saw the episode of ventually, yo,
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  Speaker 1: we need to read with driving, did you say, oh
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  Speaker 1: I see me? Oh you know what? Okay, yeah, yeah
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  Speaker 1: she drove Insecure for wow, I feel like a loser.
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  Speaker 1: I need to you know why I never watched Insecure
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  Speaker 1: because every time I would watch an episode, I would
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  Speaker 1: just get so sad about my life and how like
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  Speaker 1: sexy these men were and how I had no men.
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  Speaker 1: But but that's my choice. I feel like my choice.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it is my choice. Could you could have a man,
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  Speaker 1: but it might not be the one. Some people are
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  Speaker 1: okay with settling and saying Okay, I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: be alone, and people make you feel like that, But
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  Speaker 1: the truth is just better to like wait till the
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  Speaker 1: right person. Absolutely, I've definitely learned that like the hard way,
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  Speaker 1: so very like intentional particular about like who I want
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  Speaker 1: to share my time with. So I found myself alone
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  Speaker 1: on a lot, why not changing the mindset a little?
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  Speaker 1: Like you see the sexy man and you'd be like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have that one day. I'm gonna have a
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  Speaker 1: man like that for myself one day. I've been more
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  Speaker 1: adamant on like my standards. Absolutely, I do do that.
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm more like, yes, he has to be fine, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: he has to have a nice job. Yes, he has
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  Speaker 1: to be good to me, an effective communicator, like I am, like,
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  Speaker 1: have his own place. He did have his own place.
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  Speaker 1: I am, you know, chanting those things with it. And
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  Speaker 1: my assistant loves you, Mercedes, Mercedes. So she sent me
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  Speaker 1: a couple of questions. One of the questions she said,
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  Speaker 1: you have a song called pof. She's single, by the way, right,
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  Speaker 1: because she says, have you tried the dating app pof?
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  Speaker 1: And what you ever catfish? And then she goes, by
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  Speaker 1: the way, that dating site is terrible, Oh, so have
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  Speaker 1: you ever tried plenty of fish before? Absolutely? I met
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  Speaker 1: my first boyfriend on pof? Really his name is John.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll get in trouble for that,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, I shouldn't have shouted name John is right, John,
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be so lit when the thing of you
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  Speaker 1: come out. Got kicked up with some dating sites because
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  Speaker 1: I didn't believe that it was you. Yeah, tender um,
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  Speaker 1: they didn't believe it was me, and I didn't want
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  Speaker 1: to blank my Instagram so that people would know it's me.
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  Speaker 1: And then maybe reach out to me for the wrong reasons.
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  Speaker 1: Secret rappers. This is fly, thank you. What is happening here?
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  Speaker 1: I think I need to step outside more. But I'm
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  Speaker 1: finally stepping outside and like meeting like nice, like you know,
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  Speaker 1: enjoyable individuals. Let's go back to John for a second.
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  Speaker 1: Why did you throw John back in the sea? Well?
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  Speaker 1: John went to the military, and I felt like we
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  Speaker 1: were growing apart and the affection was lacking. He called
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  Speaker 1: me bro one and I was just like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't yeah, and it triggered me. But and I
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  Speaker 1: know it wasn't just bro like, it's it's fine, you
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  Speaker 1: can call me that. It's just I felt like our
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  Speaker 1: romance was kind of dissipating, and so I think that
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  Speaker 1: was just a triggering thing. And we had an argument.
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  Speaker 1: Now I was like, well, I guess we're not together anymore,
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  Speaker 1: and that's kind of where to protect myself. Unfortunately I
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  Speaker 1: do that, and he was like, Okay, fine, we're not
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  Speaker 1: together anymore, and he was really serious, Well, his loss.
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  Speaker 1: How many songs is he inspired? Um? Probably Pope the
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  Speaker 1: EP and my album Shape, but her Baby that's literally
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  Speaker 1: greatly inspired by him. And I'm so grateful. Well was
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  Speaker 1: the first relationship I ever had. Yeah, we're cool. We
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  Speaker 1: check on each other sometimes. I ain't get a credit
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  Speaker 1: shape well, I mean say when you just don't want
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  Speaker 1: to get back together and back I know women that
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  Speaker 1: swear by shape butter Baby, like they like that's like
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  Speaker 1: their their bible. So that's that's big of him. You
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  Speaker 1: John I inspired Shape shirts please. The free iHeart Radio
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  Speaker 1: this is the Breakfast Club thirty part of Sunday Night
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  Speaker 1: podcast on iHeartRadio. We're still kicking it with Ari Lenox.
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  Speaker 1: So you've met a lot of guys like, well, you've
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  Speaker 1: dated guys and they've been secret rappers. I thought that
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  Speaker 1: was really funny. Oh when you dating somebody and then
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  Speaker 1: all of a sudden you find out later like your
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  Speaker 1: pastors to cold from me? Are you exactly? Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: And it's the worst it happens. Like, but that's why
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  Speaker 1: I've learned with dating acts specific questions. Are you a
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  Speaker 1: rapper recording? Do you play basketball? Specifically? Goodness, dude, that
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  Speaker 1: is hilarious. That's a plot for a movie or something.
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  Speaker 1: The girl thinks that the guy is cheating, but he's
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  Speaker 1: really sneaking off the recording escape exactly. And what did
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  Speaker 1: your mom and your family say when you're recording with
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  Speaker 1: Cole and going out there and recording, because a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times parents don't leading the industry, right, my dad
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  Speaker 1: never really knew what was going on in my life. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean he knew. He was the one who always
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  Speaker 1: said you're gonna be something one day, Like he always
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  Speaker 1: said that, but like he was kind of always doing
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  Speaker 1: his own things, so he never really was seeing that
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  Speaker 1: I was how serious I was about music, which is
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  Speaker 1: why he was like, you should be a nurse, but
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  Speaker 1: really he wanted to be a nurse. And my mom
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  Speaker 1: was very calm, was just like forward, like happy for me,
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  Speaker 1: but yeah, very supportive. She never really knew this, like
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  Speaker 1: how serious he said that. Your dad used to always
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  Speaker 1: tell you you're gonna be something, You're gonna be something.
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  Speaker 1: Is that put added pressure on a daughter with me? Wow? No,
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  Speaker 1: you know what? And it sucks because we were not
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  Speaker 1: even speaking right now. Ill what's going on? Okay, so
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  Speaker 1: we're not even speaking right now. But I do feel
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  Speaker 1: like when you instill certain things like that, it goes
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  Speaker 1: a long way for sure, because um, that is the
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  Speaker 1: one area in my life where I feel like I
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  Speaker 1: did really good right now with you when your dad
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  Speaker 1: not now speaking, is it something small that you can
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  Speaker 1: call him like? Because life is it's so much so
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  Speaker 1: like it. Um, I really think it's important for like
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  Speaker 1: people to be healed when they're bringing kids into this
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  Speaker 1: world because it's just like that alone. I feel like
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  Speaker 1: probably innately helped me in so many ways, like always
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  Speaker 1: grinding and like that. But um, I could also see
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  Speaker 1: the other like you know that I carry and it's, um,
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure it has to do with the others you
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  Speaker 1: know that you go through trauma. Well, let me let
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  Speaker 1: me tell you something I learned in therapy because the
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  Speaker 1: first time I had a breakthrough in therapy was literally
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  Speaker 1: realizing all the daddy issues I had. Yeah, So when
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  Speaker 1: me and my dad had a conversation and I realized, damn,
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  Speaker 1: he was a human before he was my dad, and
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  Speaker 1: he had his own issues self distribus issues, dealing with
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  Speaker 1: mental health issues and he was just doing the best
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  Speaker 1: he could with what he had at the time. It
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  Speaker 1: allowed me to give him a lot more grace. Yes,
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  Speaker 1: and I got to give our parents great I know,
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like there needs to be a lot
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  Speaker 1: of group therapy, absolutely, and of course I want to
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  Speaker 1: continue my therapy alone, but I think that would probably
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  Speaker 1: be best because I know these are things I'm even
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  Speaker 1: carrying into my dating life and I just don't want
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  Speaker 1: to have that weight on me. And I do want
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  Speaker 1: to be more compassionate because he went through a lot,
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  Speaker 1: you know, with foster care and abandonment issues and all
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  Speaker 1: kinds of like dark things, So I do recognize why
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  Speaker 1: he is the way that he is. And you've been
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  Speaker 1: really open about going to therapy. When did you decide
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  Speaker 1: that that was something you wanted to do this year?
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  Speaker 1: I was just tired of just being a big ball
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  Speaker 1: of like traumas, like just being unaware of like what
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  Speaker 1: was going on inside, and like, you know, a lot
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  Speaker 1: of times I could be so triggered and it's just like,
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  Speaker 1: well why, And now I'm realizing why somebody just pretending
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  Speaker 1: like I don't exist, or like not even looking at me,
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  Speaker 1: or like kind of having like this arrogant nature can
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  Speaker 1: be so triggering. Like where did I see that like
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  Speaker 1: earlier in my life or experience that, Like I'm starting
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  Speaker 1: to realize it never stops. It's like a cycle. Like
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  Speaker 1: if you don't realize that you're carrying all of this way,
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  Speaker 1: it comes out in different ways and people be like,
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  Speaker 1: why she freaked out? It wasn't even that serious. It
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  Speaker 1: was a reminder. It was a flashback, probably a trigger
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  Speaker 1: without even realizing where it came from. There's always something
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  Speaker 1: in our childhood. Yeah, always something that happened in our childhood.
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  Speaker 1: And to bring you it happened to you an adult.
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  Speaker 1: When it happened, you can triggered. You're like, oh, that's
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  Speaker 1: what that's why therapy is. Greg's like, oh, that's why
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  Speaker 1: I'm reacting, Like, because what happened here? Yes, and it's
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  Speaker 1: it's been really beautiful and like eye opening for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Are you healing those those childhood wounds? Oh? Definitely, I
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  Speaker 1: want to keep going deeper. This start is happening for sure.
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  Speaker 1: And you said you see a lot of that in
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  Speaker 1: the relationships that you have now, Like what are some
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  Speaker 1: things and patterns Like I know you said you want
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  Speaker 1: to be more sympathetic, So what are some things that
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  Speaker 1: you feel like, Okay, I gotta work on this. Damn
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  Speaker 1: Probably how I'm communicating. I'm a very anxious person, so
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  Speaker 1: basically instead of saying I've said this before, but instead
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  Speaker 1: of saying like nobody cares, like it's just about wealth,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I feel like this is how I'm feeling,
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  Speaker 1: like you know that I'm not being heard or you
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  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like, I try to work on
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  Speaker 1: how I'm communicating because I get so kind of in
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  Speaker 1: my own anxiety and mess that I can kind of
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  Speaker 1: be a little insensitive sometimes. So I just want to
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  Speaker 1: work on like that. And when it comes to performing
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  Speaker 1: and getting on stage, are you the type of person
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  Speaker 1: who gets nervous before that or does it all go
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  Speaker 1: away and that's where you feel most comfortable most times.
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  Speaker 1: I rarely get nervous like that nervous, but certain things
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  Speaker 1: like TV performances like I'm shaking, like it's just certain things.
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  Speaker 1: Or Jasmine Jasmine like at the when we performed at
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  Speaker 1: the BT Awards, like horrified, like I don't want to
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  Speaker 1: let this legend down, like Jasmine Sullivan is everything. So yeah, question,
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  Speaker 1: when you get triggered by secret rappers, do you remember
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  Speaker 1: the struggle rapper who traumatized you? Oh? So many, so
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  Speaker 1: many yeah, gious people will never hear of. There's so
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  Speaker 1: many bright people we never hear of, like they just
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  Speaker 1: they won't say it until like you like them, and
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  Speaker 1: it's just like, oh, I'm about to go to the studio.
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  Speaker 1: Why like when whatever, they don't know who you are
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  Speaker 1: when they want to date you and act like, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, like hey, what what do you do? You know,
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  Speaker 1: and act like they're not sure who you are. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've definitely been in a relationship where he acted like
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  Speaker 1: I was not who I am at all. That's ridiculous. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to feel appreciated. He kept trying to
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  Speaker 1: say it was just it's ego, like you know, it's
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  Speaker 1: not all about you type thing. But really I just
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  Speaker 1: felt like he always kind of diminished everything about me,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like kind of pretended like this singing part
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  Speaker 1: didn't even exist. I hate people like that. Don't try
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  Speaker 1: to make me feel small because you're clue. Yeah, oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, oh my gosh, what I mean? You know what?
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  Speaker 1: I want to know what you know? What I mean
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  Speaker 1: people that try to make us feel small just because
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  Speaker 1: they haven't done what they wanted doing life. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: guess so. But now now him Jesus, but now you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I just my goal is just just a date
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  Speaker 1: nice people. It's got to be hard though, because you're
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  Speaker 1: r linox now for you don't know who well, you
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  Speaker 1: don't know who likes you for you or who likes
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  Speaker 1: you because you're a superstar. Where you guys size the
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  Speaker 1: you know plenty of fish like where you meeting? Well,
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  Speaker 1: the other day I met a guy at the fashion
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  Speaker 1: show that was really nice and he was he was
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  Speaker 1: so fine, But the date is terrible? How do you
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  Speaker 1: what was the date? Dressing probably better than yours want
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  Speaker 1: to dress? How do heki continue? How you're sitting there?
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  Speaker 1: He walks over, he acts security first while we were
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  Speaker 1: sitting in a seat, and he oh, dang, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want nobody to but yeah, she's sitting next to you,
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  Speaker 1: but I want tell you when you could stop? Now? Yeh,
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  Speaker 1: what was your He just he reached out and introduced
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  Speaker 1: himself in like shook hands and it was really cute
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  Speaker 1: and sweet. W was the first date the first day?
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  Speaker 1: I ain't gonna tell you where. It was a lovely restaurant,
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  Speaker 1: it really was. But he was late. He was late
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  Speaker 1: to think his bad during fashion now he supposed to
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  Speaker 1: be he was. He was hanging out with Jacole and
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  Speaker 1: Um what it's able. No, that's what I'm saying that
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  Speaker 1: with Jacole my Day, the whole team is like stopped.
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  Speaker 1: It's just not my Heart Radio. For podcast Discovery, this
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  Speaker 1: is the Breakfast Club. Third we go your chance to
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  Speaker 1: Lennox Charlagne. What was your intention with this album? The
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  Speaker 1: intention was just me showcasing dating, and it's entirety from
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  Speaker 1: I was trying to get away from dating, but used
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  Speaker 1: to bought us right back. I know it's all right,
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  Speaker 1: it's on subject for and it's where you all right,
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  Speaker 1: you know what a lot of people can relate to you.
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  Speaker 1: That's one of the main questions people ask, how do
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  Speaker 1: you find somebody like, somebody good, somebody nice? Do you
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  Speaker 1: think about marriage? Like? Are you dating with the intention
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  Speaker 1: to get married? That's how you find somebody probably is
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  Speaker 1: how finding yourself really, and so that's really what I'm
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  Speaker 1: focused on. I got a little distracted with that recent
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  Speaker 1: date and then I was like, well, let me see
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  Speaker 1: what else is out here. But I think I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: pull back into like myself and just kind of like,
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  Speaker 1: change my number and just focus on more beautiful books
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  Speaker 1: on trauma and just focus on me. I got a
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  Speaker 1: great one for you momenticum my grandmother's hands. Really. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: We also have a Marian I'm Bothered book in here? Wow?
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  Speaker 1: Is that about Trauma's adorable? Okay? Things? Oh no, no, no,
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  Speaker 1: I have to get the book back. No singers, no singers,
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  Speaker 1: no rapper. What about ball players you said earlier? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: if he played basketball, he doesn't mention that. Maybe a
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  Speaker 1: soccer player. Go with the money? At is that where
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  Speaker 1: the money? That's money yet real money yet soccer? Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I'm just saying we have intentions. That's all. Did you
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  Speaker 1: finish your thought on the intentions of this album? The
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  Speaker 1: intention of the album is just making beautiful music that
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  Speaker 1: sounds like I'm in love based on crushes of people
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  Speaker 1: I've never even hung out with before, like mean mug
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  Speaker 1: and hoodie crushes on fine men that I never Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then it gets to blocking YouTube, it gets blocking you,
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  Speaker 1: and That's where I'm at right now with it, like
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  Speaker 1: in real life. But yeah, it's just dating and the
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  Speaker 1: emotions and towards the end of the album, I'm definitely
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  Speaker 1: more about like, Okay, it's time to protect my peace. Like,
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  Speaker 1: no one's gonna do that for me. And I find
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  Speaker 1: it irresponsible to be moving around in life with all
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  Speaker 1: of these unhealed you know, traumas and trying to you know,
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  Speaker 1: get to know people. So I just, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: want to check some things, some codependency things and anxiety.
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  Speaker 1: That's powerful. People fast, you about black people fast if
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  Speaker 1: they ignore you, just black room, I do. Like one time,
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  Speaker 1: I felt that there was distance happening, and I was like, hey,
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  Speaker 1: can we talk. I feel like something is changing. He
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  Speaker 1: was like, I thought we were good. I thought everything
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  Speaker 1: was good. Um, you know what, I just need to
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  Speaker 1: get something to eat. I'm gonna call you right back.
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  Speaker 1: And so I got on the phone my dad and
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  Speaker 1: me and my dad talked for like two hours and
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  Speaker 1: I didn't hear from the guy. I'm looking at my
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  Speaker 1: phone like wow, like and so I blocked him. After that,
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  Speaker 1: that was it. We spoke one time since then. I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure for some reason, I'm attracting avoidant people who don't
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  Speaker 1: know how to communicate. Well, you're probably attracting what you are.
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  Speaker 1: That's why what you said about you know, healing your
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  Speaker 1: own trauma before you get into another situation. It's so
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  Speaker 1: important that right there, that's better than money. You know
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  Speaker 1: how we are you know about to say, you know
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  Speaker 1: how we always say you need a man with money,
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  Speaker 1: but did you you know, you know, but you really
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  Speaker 1: want a man that is doing the work like you're
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  Speaker 1: doing the work every I got so many home girls
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  Speaker 1: to say, I can't date a man if they're not
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  Speaker 1: in therapy, they're not trying to heal. Wow, that's what
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  Speaker 1: I would want for myself, a secure individual and or
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  Speaker 1: someone who's striving to be secure and healing as well
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  Speaker 1: as I am healing and trying to heal. I wanted
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  Speaker 1: to ask you what did you think, because you know
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  Speaker 1: you are one of the leaders of this new R
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  Speaker 1: and B era, what did you think of did these
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  Speaker 1: comments that R and B is dead? I thought it
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  Speaker 1: was dismissive to all of the amazing legendary artists that
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  Speaker 1: have been in the game and that are also contributing.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, from Mary J. Blige to Jasmine Sullivan to
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  Speaker 1: Summer Walker, to Lame to Money Long Van Jest, Lucky Day,
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  Speaker 1: Lucky Day, Aaron Ray. There's so many of us. T
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  Speaker 1: Nariel Brent, Fiz Jalen Jossi her her. Yes, yes, let's
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  Speaker 1: you know, Sissa, like everyone is still killing it and
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  Speaker 1: dropping music. And it was dismissive just because I don't
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  Speaker 1: know think. Yeah, Tank exactly amazing. Yeah, I don't know
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  Speaker 1: why he said that it was not nice, but I
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  Speaker 1: do love all that he's contributed to music, So it's
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  Speaker 1: no shade. But it's like being more nice to the
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  Speaker 1: people that are really you know, we're out here still
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  Speaker 1: stop it. Right off the wonder when you was young
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  Speaker 1: trying to get on, what did you think the industry
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  Speaker 1: would be like? And what have you realized? You know
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  Speaker 1: it really is. But I think it was gonna be
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  Speaker 1: like I don't remember. I just knew. I just I
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  Speaker 1: saw baw Wau up there and Joe Joe, and I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to be like them, like when I was young. Um,
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  Speaker 1: what do I think? I don't know what I thought. Like,
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  Speaker 1: maybe I thought there was gonna be like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of like devil people illuminatis. I haven't seen yet to
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  Speaker 1: see that. I thought there would be a lot of cocaine.
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  Speaker 1: Yet I've yet to see the everthing I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: it before, sacrifice a family member or something. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to think I've ever seen before either. No, yeah, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: I've been offered it, but I've never seen it. It
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  Speaker 1: was never been offered, I don't believe, or have offered
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  Speaker 1: it twice in my life. But they didn't like have
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  Speaker 1: it in their hand. Wow, They were like, do you party? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: then I have been offered it before then well yeah,
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  Speaker 1: no bad through room. Yes that's what that meant. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god, you've been off a cocaine. I haven't offered cocaine. Say,
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  Speaker 1: all your friends are in the little knot. We do
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you, we appreciate your music. And you know, I
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  Speaker 1: was kind of hurt when you said you don't want
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  Speaker 1: to do interviews anymore. I was like, don't let one
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  Speaker 1: bad interaction with somebody mess up somebody else, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm glad you're over that, and I'm glad you're
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  Speaker 1: doing interviews again. Thank you. I want people to understand
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  Speaker 1: that was just a part of my anxious nature of
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  Speaker 1: like what I met earlier, when I was just like
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  Speaker 1: nobody cares. I kind of worst case scenario and jumped
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  Speaker 1: to like the extreme. I'm kind of black and white
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  Speaker 1: with things especially. Yeah, and I definitely didn't mean that
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  Speaker 1: I was just so heartbroken by the fact that he
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  Speaker 1: would release something that we didn't agree on him releasing,
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  Speaker 1: and I just kind of felt ambushed, you know. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: let's get into a record off that what you want
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  Speaker 1: to hear? Oh? I guess boy bye, because that's the
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  Speaker 1: real sexy record. I love Lucky Days. Awesome. I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to see you on TV and movies too. I
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  Speaker 1: see that in your future as well. That's so sweet. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we need to get with Sean de Rymes and do
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  Speaker 1: this a mini series, how to Get Away with Rapping?
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, struggle rapping, brilliant little thriller. Yes, our athletics,
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. It wasn't that bad. It
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  Speaker 1: was beautiful Dada's energy. Wow. And we prayed before we
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  Speaker 1: came talk are you talking? Why you talk? Yeah? Why
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  Speaker 1: do you talk so much? Because I love you the piece? No,
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  Speaker 1: nothing day, you talk too much? You guys? This about
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  Speaker 1: at about So we prayed together as a family. What
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  Speaker 1: are you talking about? God? We said an intention before
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  Speaker 1: the interview. That's what we did. Ye radio felt that
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  Speaker 1: they don't ever date a radio personal located I promise
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  Speaker 1: I won't, Okay, I won't really that's all you want
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  Speaker 1: to go to. No more, you can't do that. Let's payola. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I don't want that. Playing are so much two hundred
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