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INTERVIEW: Teddy Riley On His New Memoir ‘Remember The Times’, Relationship With Michael Jackson + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day I wake click, yours.
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  Speaker 2: Up the breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 1: You don't finish for y'all done morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is the j N v Ess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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  Speaker 2: We are the breakfast Club. We got a special guest
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  Speaker 2: in the building.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Icon.
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  Speaker 2: Ladies and gentlemen, Teddy Riley, welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you man, you look good. Thank you Vegan. But
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  Speaker 3: I don't eat beef for pork or chicken. I just
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  Speaker 3: kind of stay away from a lot of things.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like, when you get to a certain age,
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  Speaker 4: you have to tell other men what the secrets are.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you got to all the time.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, so you're just crescatarianism pretty much close.
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  Speaker 3: You know. I don't. I just don't do a lot
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  Speaker 3: of stuff. I don't eat a lot of stuff, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I stay close to liquids and waters and and uh
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  Speaker 3: mainly yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Nice, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Teddy Riley had a new book coming out called Remember
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  Speaker 4: the Times. Right, man, you got a lot of First
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  Speaker 4: of all, you have an amazing story. But I was
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  Speaker 4: thinking when I saw the title, you got a lot
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  Speaker 4: of titles you probably could choose from, right, like songs
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  Speaker 4: that you could choose titles?
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  Speaker 1: Why remember the Times.
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  Speaker 3: Remember the Time is truly the biggest R and B
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  Speaker 3: record I've ever made. Really, Yeah, but it's really not
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  Speaker 3: about the song. It's really about people remembering where I
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  Speaker 3: came from, and it's you know, you can say so
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  Speaker 3: many things behind that, you know, remembering when I first
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  Speaker 3: wanted to be in music, when I first wanted to
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  Speaker 3: be a star, when I got picked up on the
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  Speaker 3: stage by Gladys Knight at five years old, you know,
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  Speaker 3: So remembering those times just made me say, it's a
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  Speaker 3: great title. I didn't want to call it just Teddy Roley,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I feel like it's bigger than me.
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  Speaker 2: So I mean with this book is it's so hard
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  Speaker 2: to interview Teddy Riley because it's so many different lanes
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  Speaker 2: angles ways you can go, and I know so much
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  Speaker 2: about them. I don't even know where to start. So
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  Speaker 2: I guess we start with when did you know music
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  Speaker 2: was gonna be your passion and it was gonna be
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  Speaker 2: your love?
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  Speaker 3: When I got busted, talk about it.
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  Speaker 5: That's the way of how.
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  Speaker 3: Very when I got busted by the police. I used
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  Speaker 3: to be a hustler verse and you know I used
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  Speaker 3: to go to the club Hallomworld to actually see all
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  Speaker 3: of my idols and people like Dougie Fretsch who I
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  Speaker 3: went to school with. And I think it was around
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  Speaker 3: maybe a few weeks after that, I felt like the
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  Speaker 3: most house, like I'm gonna take you out of here.
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  Speaker 3: And then the crew, my crew shot coup. We all here,
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  Speaker 3: it's about seventeen of us of us left, and they
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  Speaker 3: kicked me off the streets. It's like, nah, you can't
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  Speaker 3: come back on. I said, okay, but I gave him
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  Speaker 3: a fight. And when I did that, you know, I
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  Speaker 3: felt like that was the right thing for them to do.
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  Speaker 3: And my guys always talk about it. My Guy's Supreme
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  Speaker 3: and al Capone. You know, it's like, man, I wish
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  Speaker 3: they would have kicked us off of the block too.
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  Speaker 3: So but yeah, that's how what made me want to
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  Speaker 3: be in music, and just that was my only choice
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  Speaker 3: because I went back to church to play for the
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  Speaker 3: church and did everything that I can to make ends
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  Speaker 3: meet for my family, my mother, single parent.
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  Speaker 4: What was it they heard that made them kick you
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  Speaker 4: off the street?
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  Speaker 3: No, they always knew I did music because I used
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  Speaker 3: to carry my little Cassio around and while hustling, I
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  Speaker 3: used to carry my cassire and they just they used
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  Speaker 3: to rap while I'm playing. And actually Supreme is the
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  Speaker 3: one who's the skinny kid that was battling Biggie. He's
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  Speaker 3: the one who brought me to the crew. So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we were well connected. You know when it comes to music,
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  Speaker 3: all of us did music. It's just that we didn't
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  Speaker 3: have a way to get into.
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  Speaker 4: It when you moved to Virginia Beach, right, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we grew up in all and moved to Virginia Beach.
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  Speaker 4: How did that shift? You know, how did that shift
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  Speaker 4: shape your worldview and your and your sound.
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  Speaker 3: It didn't shift. It wasn't even a shift. I just
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  Speaker 3: went to Virginia. The reason why I went to Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: We used to go to Virginia every summer, fourth week
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  Speaker 3: the whole summer. It was King's dominion, you know. So
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  Speaker 3: I would go there every every summer with like, uh
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  Speaker 3: my friends from school, Deferred, Alpo, Rich Porter, all of us.
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  Speaker 3: We try a bus and and we just go. So
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  Speaker 3: one day I went, actually with the mother of my
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  Speaker 3: daughter's mother. I went with her and we were at
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  Speaker 3: the hotel. Was that the holiday? It's not the holiday?
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  Speaker 3: And it's called the holiday? And I told her, I said, man,
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  Speaker 3: I would want to move here. And next thing, you know,
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  Speaker 3: about two years later, I did it.
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  Speaker 2: M hmm, what what did you see special in Virginia?
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  Speaker 3: The water? It was something in the water. Wow, and uh,
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  Speaker 3: it just made me want to be there. You know,
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  Speaker 3: Cornea Island wasn't it for me? Wasn't it? But it
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  Speaker 3: was something in the water of Virginia that made me
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  Speaker 3: just want to be there. And that's why I did
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  Speaker 3: the first video there. I'm shaker. It was history, wasn't it.
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  Speaker 2: Was a Virginia accepting to you when you first moved in,
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  Speaker 2: When you first went there.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't really know anybody because we came here. We
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  Speaker 3: came there just solo. We just came there and moved there. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we got a lot of people, just you know, police
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  Speaker 3: pulling up on us because we all had, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for our reason, cars and all of that stuff, and
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  Speaker 3: they would just kind of pull up on us, even
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  Speaker 3: at my house. And then when we had the studio,
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  Speaker 3: that's when everything started evolving and to us being able
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  Speaker 3: to do talent shows and do stuff for the community.
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  Speaker 3: And basically what I did for the community was kind
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  Speaker 3: of kept the kids off the streets. I had basketball
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  Speaker 3: tournaments for the biddies. I had celebrity tournaments. Alan Iverson
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  Speaker 3: and all those guys used to play for my team.
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  Speaker 3: So Virginia became just I mean when I went there
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  Speaker 3: there was no music. You know that there was Jimmy Buffett.
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  Speaker 3: And then after that, you know, just getting acquainted with
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  Speaker 3: the radio stations. I got a couple of people jobs,
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  Speaker 3: like what's Shaggy? I got him his job at one, O,
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  Speaker 3: four and three and one of one of the three chams,
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  Speaker 3: but he was at Z what's that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they had the station R.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, just being able to be connected and help
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  Speaker 3: people just get jobs and opportunities for kids to play
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  Speaker 3: ball and softball. We had softball team. We just had
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  Speaker 3: everything going and uh, that's what they recognized. But Virginia
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  Speaker 3: didn't recognize me. The people did.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember meeting for Rell? What the first time
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  Speaker 2: you remember meeting for Real and Chad And what was
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  Speaker 2: that like the first time you met them? And did
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  Speaker 2: you see the greatness at that time of them?
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  Speaker 3: Of course, when I gave the talent show, everybody's going
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  Speaker 3: for the people were saying I will always love you
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  Speaker 3: and all of these high long notes songs and I said, nah,
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  Speaker 3: they're not the winners. They're the winners, and they don't
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  Speaker 3: even have the concept. They just went in just freestyle Chad,
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  Speaker 3: you know, switching instruments, and that really intrigued me. I
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  Speaker 3: was like very impressed with what they can do. And
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  Speaker 3: that's that was my goal, is just to find more creators,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and just take them to the next level.
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  Speaker 3: So I did that for a lot of people. Rodney
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  Speaker 3: Jerkins came down, you know. I just built a synergy
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  Speaker 3: that brought everybody down. Even had executive is Russell Simmons,
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  Speaker 3: all of them. It came down heavy d So just
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  Speaker 3: that's what made it big for me. It made it
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  Speaker 3: even more attractive.
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  Speaker 2: Now you bought the community. And I remember going to
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  Speaker 2: that studio. We used to have these times where he
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  Speaker 2: would bring students, local people and everybody just to come
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  Speaker 2: listen to projects, used to come listen to music. And
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  Speaker 2: I remember seeing the first time I ever seen it
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  Speaker 2: in my life. And it's gonna sound crazy now, I
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  Speaker 2: think you might have had the first plasma television in
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  Speaker 2: the world.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you know that was a gift from Michael Jackson. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: what come on?
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  Speaker 1: I think it was like.
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  Speaker 3: It was it was a lot, but I said I
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  Speaker 3: wouldn't buy it. But he's just you know, one thing
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  Speaker 3: I did with Michael, we built a brotherhood. You know
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  Speaker 3: where this guy anytime when I had my my daughter,
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  Speaker 3: my second daughter, he just bought everything for I didn't
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  Speaker 3: have to buy nothing. So it was like that, you know.
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  Speaker 3: And when his kids out, my kids used to babysit
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  Speaker 3: his kids. You know, when he came down to Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: You know where did he.
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  Speaker 2: Stay when he was in Virginia? Did you renter my house?
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  Speaker 2: Was it a hotel? Because it was It would have
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  Speaker 2: been crazy the fact that Michael Jackson was in Virginia.
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  Speaker 3: He tried to stay in the hotel to Marriott. And
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  Speaker 3: that's the reason why I don't stand in that Marriott.
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  Speaker 3: I stay in the new hotel down the street. But
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  Speaker 3: they invaded his privacy Wavy TV and they went in
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  Speaker 3: his room when a employee gave a key to the
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  Speaker 3: television station and they walked into this room. And he
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  Speaker 3: was like, no, get out, no security.
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  Speaker 1: That's crazy.
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  Speaker 3: So I moved him out and put him in one
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  Speaker 3: of my places. And when I put him on it
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  Speaker 3: was so private because I had bought a place in
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  Speaker 3: like a senior citizen community and it was over. It
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  Speaker 3: had a golf course and everything, and I just said,
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  Speaker 3: you know what, Michael, would you like to stand here?
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  Speaker 3: She said, I would love to say anywhere that's private.
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  Speaker 3: So I gave him the condos brand new, and uh,
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  Speaker 3: he bought the kids and everything, and then he mostly
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  Speaker 3: stayed at the studio or on the bus, so I
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  Speaker 3: would give him the bus, him and the kids, and uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know while we.
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  Speaker 6: Made music and you said no security, I was by
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  Speaker 6: like his choice or they just wasn't there at that moment.
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  Speaker 6: What's that when you said no security when he was asking, oh.
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  Speaker 3: No, he had his security, but his security. But it
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  Speaker 3: was like two o'clock in the morning, you know.
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  Speaker 5: I mean they went to his room and two o'clock
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  Speaker 5: in the morning. Yeah, did they get in trouble for that?
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  Speaker 5: I'm just like, that's not normal.
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  Speaker 3: He got to the bottom of it and the person
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  Speaker 3: got fired.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely right. Check too. How when you did the show,
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  Speaker 1: you was like, what seventeen eighteen?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, seventeen damn.
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  Speaker 4: I always when you were when Michael Jackson made me
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  Speaker 4: think about it, because when you were producing those hits
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  Speaker 4: to the teenage, who was protecting Teddy Riley the Kid.
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  Speaker 4: Like you know, people might have been celebrating your genius
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  Speaker 4: at the time, but they might not have realized how
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  Speaker 4: young you were.
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  Speaker 1: So who was protecting you there?
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  Speaker 3: Nobody did you have. That's the reason why you know
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  Speaker 3: a lot of things that back then I didn't know,
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  Speaker 3: and I sort of didn't have a concern because I
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  Speaker 3: just want my music. I wanted my music on the radio.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted my music out there, and I blew
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  Speaker 3: a lout of opportunities. At the same time, a lot
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  Speaker 3: of my business wasn't done. You know. Example, I did
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  Speaker 3: the Key Sweat album. I've only made fifteen hundred dollars
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  Speaker 3: from that to this day today, Jesus. But I got
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  Speaker 3: the publishing, but I never got my royalties. No one
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  Speaker 3: never looked out for me. So now we're going through
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  Speaker 3: different channels because you can't, you know, have a person's
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  Speaker 3: name on the album and as a producer and not
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  Speaker 3: have a contract. Wow, I understand. So thank god I
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  Speaker 3: know the business now.
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  Speaker 6: So there wasn't times though, when like even Michael himself
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  Speaker 6: was kind of like trying to pour game into because
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  Speaker 6: I saw, you say, working with him around the time
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  Speaker 6: is like being in college, like you weren't. You weren't
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  Speaker 6: asking him those mus didn't.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean that's college. I've learned a lot
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  Speaker 3: more than I'm supposed to, you know. Then I know
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  Speaker 3: that then a lot more. And he just kind of
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  Speaker 3: schooled me on a lot of things, like things that
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  Speaker 3: I should be doing. And then even for all, you know,
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  Speaker 3: for all knows, just something that like when we did
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  Speaker 3: the Essence Festival and for was like, Yo, your name
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  Speaker 3: is on that. You gotta get paid from that.
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  Speaker 5: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, so those those are things that you know,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like my friends, true friends, would you know, say, yo,
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  Speaker 3: you got paid on that. You got paid on that.
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  Speaker 3: So now the day is a whole total different day.
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  Speaker 3: It's a beautiful day.
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  Speaker 4: So you never made no money off the show either
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  Speaker 4: because you was uncredited on that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. God, I just wanted to hear my record on
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  Speaker 3: the radio. You know. I just had stars in my
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  Speaker 3: eyes and not business. You know, when I went down
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  Speaker 3: to Virginia, I was even a little more established. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I had a cool team and you know, actually the
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  Speaker 3: mother of my son was my manager, Maddie, and she
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  Speaker 3: helped me out a lot.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
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  Speaker 3: So my thing is I like to be creative and
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  Speaker 3: most times, you know, you don't think about the business.
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  Speaker 4: Whose job was it to correct that? Like you said, Dougie, first,
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  Speaker 4: y'all went to school together.
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  Speaker 1: Y'all was cool.
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  Speaker 3: Like, well with Dougie, that situation is a little different,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm cool. I'm really cool. Just my thing is,
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  Speaker 3: if I'm just being mentioned, I'm good. It's not about
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  Speaker 3: the money. It's really about, you know, the legacy.
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  Speaker 2: So that's what rich people say you don't want to do.
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  Speaker 2: Was there ever a time where you lost it all?
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  Speaker 3: Yep?
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  Speaker 2: And what happened with that? Because you know the reason
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  Speaker 2: I asked is I remember the studio and then I remember.
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  Speaker 2: They was like, not Teddy got rid of the studio
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  Speaker 2: and the bus, and I'm like, that's Teddy's everything.
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  Speaker 3: What happens?
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  Speaker 2: I always want to know what happened during that time.
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  Speaker 3: Aund that time, I moved to California because the work
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  Speaker 3: wasn't coming to Virginia. So when I went to California,
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  Speaker 3: I just kind of just built myself back and I
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  Speaker 3: actually fought bankruptcy then and when I did that, it
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  Speaker 3: gave me a whole new change and us so crazy.
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  Speaker 3: Right after filing baby for see. I say about maybe
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  Speaker 3: four or five months later, I just I was back
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  Speaker 3: to where I was financially business wise. I had built
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  Speaker 3: a new team, and then I wound up coming back
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  Speaker 3: to Virginia. But I came back to Virginia to fight
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  Speaker 3: for my kids, get the house in order. The studio
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  Speaker 3: was actually stolen from me with a gentleman who's actually
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  Speaker 3: seven about he had a thirty three years sentence, Troy Titus,
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  Speaker 3: the tightest family, and uh that happened because of Chauncey
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  Speaker 3: and myself. We just say, you know what, we gotta
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  Speaker 3: do something about this. So I wound up going to
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  Speaker 3: American Greed and uh we had to testify, and there
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  Speaker 3: were so many other people for all of them they
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  Speaker 3: were involved as well. He took money from a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people and you know, kind of fortunately got us all.
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  Speaker 3: But he's seven the time for it, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: we're good m hm.
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  Speaker 5: And you had a beautiful story, incredible story. Right when
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  Speaker 5: you were writing a book, how did you decide what
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  Speaker 5: parts you wanted to put in as a what parts
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  Speaker 5: you didn't want to put in because it's a lot.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't leave that up. I left that up
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  Speaker 3: to my writer who wrote it with me, Jake Brown,
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  Speaker 3: you know, because I wanted someone outside of me to
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  Speaker 3: put it in perspective, you know, more or less than
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  Speaker 3: me saying I like that story. I like that one
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  Speaker 3: of the most because it talks about everything, everything that
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  Speaker 3: I've done my whole walk. So I think he did
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  Speaker 3: a pretty good job, you know, with the direction. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I think he did a real good job.
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  Speaker 5: So how does that go? So you you just go
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  Speaker 5: and you set with them and you tell them everything
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  Speaker 5: and then they just yeah, but I wrote my book
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  Speaker 5: by myself. Yeah, because the co writer costs you much.
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  Speaker 5: So I was like, nah, I could do it, you
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  Speaker 5: know what I mean. But I didn't realize. I totally
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  Speaker 5: underestimated what the process of writing your.
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  Speaker 2: Own book is.
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  Speaker 5: I try, I'm gonna go ahead and get a cool writer,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But is that what it was?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 5: You said, and you told somebody your story and they
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  Speaker 5: just they put it together for you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well what I did was I have everything on
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  Speaker 3: tape m I recorded my whole life, and then I
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: wanted to find the right person. And I had actually
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  Speaker 3: a young lady who was like a sister to me, Courtney.
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  Speaker 3: We actually have an animation film together, and she was
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  Speaker 3: actually going to do it, and then she wound up
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  Speaker 3: getting a job with Netflix, a huge position. So Jake came,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and he's the guy who wrote I Think
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  Speaker 3: Hip Hop Evolution and a bunch of other books, and
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  Speaker 3: I said, you know, this will probably be a great match.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: That's pretty dope.
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Why was it important for you to include a chapter
• 17:24
  Speaker 4: from your mother's perspective? It's called a mother's Memory.
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Because it's so crazy. I lost my mom twenty twenty four,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: February tenth, which is why the release state is tomorrow.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: And you know I always love making my mother proud.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: You know that's another thing that you know, kind of
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: overrides money. You know, I made it. You know, every
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: little step that I've taken in the music industry, you know,
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: my mother was always a part of it.
• 17:59
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I was going to I've heard you talk
• 18:02
  Speaker 6: about kind of like your mam almost is like a
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: guiding spirit. I wonder now, like you know, with her
• 18:08
  Speaker 6: not being here, like, are there conversations that you have
• 18:10
  Speaker 6: or things that happen where you're like, I know that
• 18:12
  Speaker 6: was my mom.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah all the time. You know, there's been many things
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: that have happened I didn't even expect and the great things.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: You know, it's like, yeah, I know, it's her.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: So it's interesting, you know when I think about like
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: you even talk about not being credited for certain records,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: Like your mother told you early on, God's gonna bless you.
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: You just take what he gives you, and he's going
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: to bless you much later on. So did that early
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: lesson help you in those type of moments.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: Yes, And that's the one thing I always for when
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: I make a decision, I always think about God. You know,
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: it's like, wow, what would he do? Then I think
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: about my mom. That's like the you know, that would
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: be the closer. You know. For me, it's always about
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: you know, our parents, just like you know, if kids
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: do not lean on their parents, they're not going to
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: be straight. They're gonna fall short. So I always lean
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: on my parents and you know, my godparents. They're still here.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: She's still here and I still call her. You know,
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: she's the one who named me Teddy instead of Theater
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: because she didn't like Theodore. She was like, I'm calling.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: Them Teddy would have been kind of fired too though.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, too long.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: It is long.
• 19:31
  Speaker 5: Theodore.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: That's crazy. That's the only thing Michael called me. He
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: never called me Teddy to the theatore. He called me theater.
• 19:41
  Speaker 5: That wasn't even your name, okay, just their ted go.
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: You ever thought about that? You know, if you would
• 19:52
  Speaker 2: have created a labels so far back, because you could
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: have been the Death Jam, you could have been the
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: bad Boy, you could have been up the Uptown Records
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: because you had all the acts and you produce all
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: the accents. You ever wish you did that.
• 20:05
  Speaker 6: They didn't have a production.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I did do it. I did it with Jimmy m hm,
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: and uh we made great success. I just wasn't, you know,
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: in the gatekeeper's room.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: M M. What do you mean?
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: What do I mean? Well? I wasn't part of the gatekeepers,
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: you know, I'm I'm just totally like outside of that.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: My thing was it was about the music. And in
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: so many aspects I've been pimped, you know what I mean.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: You know, from the Jene Griffins, you know, to everybody
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: who I've done music with and never got paid.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: I think about all the artists that you got a
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: chance to work with, and you created a sound, you
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: created a project. I mean from I mean shit, you
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: did everybody from Bobby Brown and Keeps Wet to you
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: know whatever. I always think about if you would have
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: ran your own label like an Uptown, like a they
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: would have all been signed to you. It would have
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: been your sound. But you created all these sounds for
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: all these different labels.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: Was a little Man of Production company.
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: Little Man was a label, and then Future it was
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: a label with m c A. And when I left
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: MC I went to Insiscope. So before that I was
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: with Uptown, you know what I'm saying. So this is
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: how the whole thing pretty much went Unreel came to
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: the rooftop you guys are well that was a boller
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: skating ring that we owned, my partner Robert Wells Gusto.
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: We built the studio up there. We started a record label,
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: so it's Gustal myself, yeah, le Vapor and Greg g
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: and uh. When we did that, Andre Hiel came up
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: there because he wanted me to work with the heavy
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: D I'll be sure, and his artists. Before he came,
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: Like before he came, he it wasn't called Uptown. When
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: he came Uptown and he hung with us and he
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: tried to I guess do a deal with my partners,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and I wasn't in, you know, a factor to it.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I was just supposed to be the producer. And that's
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: why everybody always see me as a producer instead of
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: making me a partner. But my guys didn't do it,
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: and they didn't fall for the deal because I wasn't
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: implemented as a partner. So that's what I mean by
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: being pimped. So that's you know, I wasn't fortunate or
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I wasn't in the right room to be that uptown.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: But they always wanted to give me a label, which
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: is a high furbished, you know, production company. But now
• 22:58
  Speaker 3: it's a total different story. You know, I can pretty
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: much do anything and that in that.
• 23:05
  Speaker 2: Aspect that what artist did you get a chance to
• 23:09
  Speaker 2: possibly sign and say, you know what you let go
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: or you didn't.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: Do that deal? What to say that again?
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Is there an artist that you had a chance to
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: sign that you didn't that became out to be a
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: huge success.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: M I had many opportunities to work with Uh. Missy
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: used to always come to the studio the brat did
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: you see the time?
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Missy?
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: I'm the one who basically said to Missy, you should
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: be solo because she was with the group's sister sister,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: and she used to always come to the studio and
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: she bought the group. You know, everybody's cool, but I said,
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: you need to be solo, and she did it. Also,
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: who else?
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: She said, the Brat?
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: The Brat. I've known the brad since she was fourteen,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: and she used to come up with my best friend
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: darn and uh. I didn't know what to do with
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: her then, But when she went with j D, I
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: was like, that's the perfect combination. You know. Sometimes you gotta,
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: you know, let things be because it's gonna happen the
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: way it's supposed to, you know. So who else Chris
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Brown for real Chris Brown. Alan Timmy Allen brought Chris
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: Brown to Virginia to the studio, to Virginia Beach and
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: then he was very very young, and I didn't know
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: what to do. I was so into Black Street, you know,
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: and I wasn't more like, you know, I was the
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: creative one working with my group, working with the groups,
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: you know, when I had the time to work with
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: groups outside of me and then work with Bobby Brown
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: and all the different ones. So I was kind of
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: spread then you know, to have a record label and
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: then have this and sign this person. So you know,
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: I signed as many as I could, and you know,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: just kept it moving.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: What about Timberland.
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Tim Land was actually already signed working with Davante and
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: you know, but we all knew each other. Timberland used
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: to always come to the studio as well, and we
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: just built a friendship, you know, because we all from
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: you know, from Virginia. I moved to Virginia and you
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: know became from Virginia. So it was always a networking
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: thing and we always got had fun together. That's crazy.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: You didn't know what to do with Chris when you
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: was a child proteger yourself.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: Well, I'm different. I mean I was more of a producer.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: I was more of let me work with somebody, you know.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: But at that point in time, I was so into
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: like building Black Street, you know what I'm saying. Like
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: coming from guy, I said, yeah, I gotta build something else,
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: another dynasty. So I wasn't going to signing anybody at
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: that time.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: So you were going for groups like not just solo artists. Yeah,
• 26:01
  Speaker 5: looking for another group anyway.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Because I signed nine to one one used to be
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: Basic Black today work with High Five, and I was like,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: I love working with groups.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: No underrated group, man, so underrated.
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: I'm actually working with them now.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Really, Wow, they got hit. That's a very underrated group.
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah. So Trisian and I the original members, they came
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: back and we're coming together to do the New Jack
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Swing Tour with Dougie and everybody.
• 26:32
  Speaker 4: One of my favorite performances is High Five on Apollo
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: when they did I like and the reason I like
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: that performance so much is the coordination they all addressed it.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Like the choreography was hitting. You could tell that they
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: rehearsed in practice. You don't see that too much of
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: any group now, right.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: Well, that's my goal, you know, I'm looking at working
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: with them and doing a partnership with them. God two
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: point oh and uh I say two point oh because
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I can't say Guy because Guy's Guy. But Guy two
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: point oh is the new guys, and I can't wait
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: for y'all to hear them. You know. All I'm doing
• 27:15
  Speaker 3: is just keeping it consistent, air in it.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: No, the new guys, it's some of the old members.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I'm assuming No, no, no, I don't think they're ready
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: for this. This is a whole nother whole, another aspect
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: of what music sound and the consistency because people are
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: looking for consistency. That's the reason why we don't have groups,
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: because everybody's breaking up and I'm really tired now of
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: just making people wait, especially to hear my music. How
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: are you gonna let a song go number one and you're
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: not standing behind it? I like when number one Booty Cards.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: You know, these records have got line dances, and we
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: sit and just dorm. It doesn't work out.
• 27:58
  Speaker 4: Are you doing them a disservice by calling them guy
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: two point?
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: Because I know they got you, but god, damn Teddy,
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: let's chill.
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: I like, that's a beautiful, beautiful songs, of course it is,
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: but ask them to sing it?
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: Mm do you think you know everybody always has the
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: conversation to Aaron Hall and they always talk about R
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: Kelly taking Aaron Hall's whole thing.
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: Do you think, first of all, for the new people
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: that don't know what the hell you're talking about, spell
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: that out?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: That sounds crazy.
• 28:28
  Speaker 7: People would always say that R Kelly, that yeah, stole
• 28:36
  Speaker 7: Aaron Hall style, stole the whole concept of the look
• 28:39
  Speaker 7: everything from Aaron Hall.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: What were your thoughts on that.
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: NA he was inspired. You can't steal you know what
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. It's like me giving you sounds, and I'm
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: giving you sounds. I'm giving you sounding. We're not going
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: to sound the same. R. Kelly does not sound like
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Aaron Hall, and Aaron Hall does not sound like Kelly.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: He has its own sound, and he developed his signature,
• 29:05
  Speaker 3: Aaron developed his signature. He lost his signature. And I'm
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: sad to say this. You know, we're on tour and
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: if you have to always do this to the crowd,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: it is what it is. And of course, I mean
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: you could say that Frankie Bevley at least Frankie Bevley
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: went out there and gave it his awe. When you
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: go out there and don't give it your awe and
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: then you're just going to pass the mic, it just
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: doesn't work that way. People want to hear your music
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: and they want to hear your record, and that's what
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: I've been really tired of, especially making the music and
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: being the architect of my sound. I want my sound
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: to show and there's so much I can't wait for
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: you all to hear that I'm doing. I'm doing the Symphony,
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: nu Jack Swing album with guest artists and people who
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: come and sing my music with strings. And I just
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: have a dream of just doing like the Carnegie Halls
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: and something special for us as a people where we
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: can be in tuxedos and be ghetto fabulous with this
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: bed of music.
• 30:17
  Speaker 6: So I have a question for you. I saw your
• 30:19
  Speaker 6: interview on Sway when you were talking about y'all your
• 30:22
  Speaker 6: relationship with all like original members, right, and you said
• 30:25
  Speaker 6: when he asked you kind of what and we just
• 30:27
  Speaker 6: asked you that they don't like you. That there was
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: like I love you, but you feel like they didn't
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: give you the love that you gave them at one point.
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: Has there been any conversations since that with anyone now
• 30:37
  Speaker 6: that they're hearing you kind of express all of this.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Stuff, Yeah, I mean, but not with them. You know.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we'll ever get to speak again.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: And it's only because I've been through this so many
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: times and you can't just keep going. It's like being
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: in a relationship and your husbands beating you. He's just
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: beating you, but he tells you he love you. That's
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: that's doesn't work. It doesn't equate and My thing is
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: I'm tired. I want to be around the people who
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: have loved for me, you know what I'm saying, who
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: have loved for the music and ready to do this,
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: who wanted as bad as I do. Still forty years
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: in the business and I still love this, you know
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: what I mean. So I want to give the people
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: what they've been waiting for.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: M You know, I want to ask you, you know when
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: you when you remember the times like you know, being
• 31:30
  Speaker 4: a child protege in an adult industry, did you grieve
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: anything like you you feel like fame took from you
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: too early, like while you were writing it, you like, damn,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I feel like I missed out on it.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll tell you. I was told by Michael that
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: I was supposed to be on the Bad album.
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: Mhmm.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: And the reason why I wasn't on the Bad album
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: was because of Jeane Wow. And He's like, while I
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: was making a beat, he was looking and like, Wow,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: I wish he would have done this on a bad album.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And then he popped the question, he said, what are
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: you still with the with that manager, that ball headed guy.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: I said, we were talking about it kind of. I
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: didn't know if he knew about him. I was like,
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: maybe he do. He said yeah, we were trying to
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: work with you for the Bad album. I said really,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: and what happened? He just broke it down. He said, well,
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: this guy, Jean, he didn't want me in the same
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: room with you. He didn't want me to talk to you.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: He just whenever I talked to you, he have to
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: be present, and we just passed on you.
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: Michael said yeah, damn.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: So when he said that, I was like, Wow, this
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: is how people work. They work in the backgrounds, you know,
• 32:55
  Speaker 3: against you. So that's why you know, now it's a
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: different day. You know, you got to be in your business.
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: You talk about learning music before business in the book.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: If the book had existed when you were younger, younger,
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: like you know, in your teenage years, what chapter you
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: think would have saved you the most pain?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: That one that it would have really enlightened me to
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: get the right representation, get the right people to back you,
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: and kind of keep some family around you, you know,
• 33:27
  Speaker 3: the ones that you know, because you do have some
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: family to be like, yeah, I'm just making money off
• 33:32
  Speaker 3: my cousin, you know, that type of stuff, But you
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: do have family like my daughters. You know, they they're
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: like my managers right now. I work for my children.
• 33:43
  Speaker 5: What's so weird about what you just said about not
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: being on a bad album?
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Right?
• 33:48
  Speaker 5: So that was your manager. But wouldn't that have made
• 33:52
  Speaker 5: business better for him? If you would have done the
• 33:54
  Speaker 5: bad album?
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: It would have, But at that point in time, I
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: didn't think he thought about that, you know what I'm saying.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: He just he didn't want Michael Jackson like to steal
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: me because he didn't really have a bona fide contract.
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: When I left him, it was just like, yo, I'm out,
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: and he couldn't do anything about it because when I
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: signed my contract, I was young and we knew the
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: laws then because you had to go through Pope Court
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: in order to be signed to any organization, you know,
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: under sixteen, and that's what he was holding on to
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: that contract, so he knew. When we broke up with him,
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: he's like, how am I going to do this? I
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: got to try and conn him into getting or taking
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: his money. You know, I was being paid ten thousand
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: dollars for stuff I've done like two hundred and fifty thousand,
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: two hundred thousand. He would take the money, and you
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: know do whatever. So it is what it is. You know,
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: you learn from the big mistakes.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: How did you meet Gene? I'm just karing because if
• 34:54
  Speaker 2: you have a Google it it says before night there
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: was Gene.
• 34:58
  Speaker 1: How did you want too many good Gene stories?
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Well, I met Jean the same time. I met a
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: guy who's like an uncle to me named David Hyatt.
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: David Hire is the actual guy that discovered R. Kelly
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: when they did Star Church, and he's the one that
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: put up the money I think about one hundred thousand
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: dollars to kind of just really build them. And I
• 35:21
  Speaker 3: used to go see David Hired in the same prison
• 35:24
  Speaker 3: that R. Kelly is in right now before he passed.
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: Two weeks before he passed, I seen him in that
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: same prison, and I used to see him consecutively, like
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: the last two years before that. And then my brother
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: wound up being in that prison before he got pardon.
• 35:43
  Speaker 3: He was in the same prison. So I met Jean.
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: He used to come around on the block in Harlem
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: with his Porsche Red Porsch, and David Hyatt used to
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: come with the blue Porsch and you know, you know, Matrix,
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: I picked the red you know, and he used to
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: come down and really just kind of figure out how
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: he can get us signed. And that's how we kind
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: of got it got with him. And then when we
• 36:11
  Speaker 3: broke up, he went to prison. And when he came
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: out of prison, Timmy Gallin is the cause of us
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: being with him. And then he quits the group the
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: first Guy album, so you know, that's my best friend.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: But I still blame him. I would have never been
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: in this if he made the right decision, because you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: he said, Yo, we should call I saw a Jeane.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: He just got out of prison. You know, we should
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: go see him. I thought I was getting away from it,
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: but I followed him because you know he's older. I said,
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: all right, because I'm thinking, you know, he would have
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: my back, you know. So when he quit the group,
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: I'm looking like and y'all see it, you know, when
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: we we're developing now the TV film, when y'all see
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: this stuff, y'all, it's gonna be a lot in there
• 37:01
  Speaker 3: that you should have saw in other movies, like the
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: New Edition film. Y'all should have seen the beef. But
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you the beef.
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: Did you speak the gene before he passed did y'all
• 37:11
  Speaker 2: have that hard heart before he passed?
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: And no, sure did. I got back with him before
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: he passed, you know, and Uh I actually he was
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: in a home because he had Alzheimer's, and UH brought
• 37:23
  Speaker 3: him to the rehearsal with me, and you know, I
• 37:25
  Speaker 3: just kind of you know, in my book, I have
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: a chapter says forgiveness, and that's what it was about.
• 37:32
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you, why why did you decide to forget.
• 37:34
  Speaker 3: After I just felt this? Right? You know, I always
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: like to walk straight line and put things either before
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: me or behind me, you know, so.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I said, when I think about stuff like that, right,
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: how much of your journey do you think was destiny?
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: And how much was just lack of protection for a
• 37:54
  Speaker 4: young black artist.
• 37:58
  Speaker 3: I guess the music part of it was destined, you know,
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: making good music for people. I always used to like
• 38:06
  Speaker 3: have people come before that, you know, living in the projects.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: I lived on the first floor, so kids used to
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: be at my window every day. When they hear the music,
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: they would line, they would be right there just dancing
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: to it. And that really showed me, like that my
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: music is it's worthy of being on the radio or
• 38:26
  Speaker 3: being out there so that was the destined part of me.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: The other part was really the lack of not knowing.
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: So yeah, but I feel like even as destiny based
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: off knowing who you are, because I see you pour
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: in to a lot of other people, and like, in
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: a lot of ways, you become that protection, you become
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: the adult you need an other job.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: That's true, And that's the libor in me. You know,
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: I'm always that way. I'm not aware about my children,
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: you know, when it comes to me being in an
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: a limelight or getting bad media, you know, in Virginia.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Of course, Virginia always wanted to talk about us, you know,
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: and when that happened, I protected my children first, not me.
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: I made sure that they didn't hear it in the schools,
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: you know, I had a crisis, you know, pr who
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: would just make it go away, and it did. You know,
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: they never got teased or anything when anything happened with
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: me in Virginia.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: So yeah, why did the industry ever gotten better when
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: it comes to how it treats artists, though, Like it
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: feels like it's always it's the same system. You always
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: hear about artists getting jerked. You always hear about artists
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: getting wrong, like it never changes.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: What never changes because that's what they were, Like they
• 39:47
  Speaker 3: would either like us to be in that situation or
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: shooting at each other, you know, being against each other.
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: That makes the money, you know what I'm saying. And
• 40:01
  Speaker 3: I feel like that's changing now, you know, because people
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: are tired of being tired, you know. So I feel
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: like it's it's going to be a little different. You know.
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: I can't really talk about much that I'm about to
• 40:16
  Speaker 3: do because I've been, you know, sitting with some of
• 40:18
  Speaker 3: my people who really respect my music, you know, Jimmy Ivan,
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: you know, Doctor Dre. We all hung out like two
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: weeks ago, and Larry Jackson, and I just feel like
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: there's a place for me again, you know. And uh,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: it's I can't wait for us, you know, kind of
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: hear what's about to happen.
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: For you again? Like when did you think there was
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: no place.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: M a brick in this foundation?
• 40:47
  Speaker 3: You know y'all feel that way. For me, I'm just floating,
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: you know, getting where I fit in until I totally
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: fit cut it out. No, very serious, did you feel?
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: I'm very serious? You know?
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: Riley? Yeah, I laid foundations that people stand.
• 41:08
  Speaker 3: On, man, that is true, but I've never given the
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: credit for it. And it's okay because I feel like
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: if I'm still going, you know what I'm saying, I
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: stood the test of time. I'm forty years in this business.
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: I'm going to be sixty this year. So I stood
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: the test of time and I'm still going and I'm
• 41:30
  Speaker 3: still able to you know, a lot of people out
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: there are overexposed. I can still come outside and I
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: can still be me, and that's what I love about it.
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: If I was up there with Michael Jackson and Chris BROWNO,
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: they can't go outside all the time. Yeah, they can't
• 41:48
  Speaker 3: speak or sit down with some kids and really like
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: give them the roadmap. But I can do that. I
• 41:55
  Speaker 3: can still go to my hood and hang out at
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: the barber shop, you know that type of thing. And
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: that's because I've never really like had the high horse head,
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: you know, where people want to be like, yo, let's
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: give him. It's only because I've been that guy on
• 42:11
  Speaker 3: the streets. So that's why i feel like I'm not famous.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: Chet I'm almost famous. I'm almost famous.
• 42:25
  Speaker 6: Verses feeling like that too.
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: Like I'm not under dog, y'all don't understand, like Babyface
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: is one of the best writers in the world. Absolutely,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: he's older, he's got more, you know, experience. Right, I'm
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: a little teddy like I'm the guy that's coming up.
• 42:48
  Speaker 3: I'm the little kid on the What's that the Time magazine?
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: You know, you would see that big puzzle and you
• 42:53
  Speaker 3: got to find a little man. I'm that little man.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: That's why I call my label Man Records.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: I disagree, but you know, because although Babyface is a
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: phenomenal writer and the phenomenal artist and everything that you
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: could say, icon legend and all that love Babyface, but
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: you were the one that I seen. You were the
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: one that those kids seen, were able to touch, were
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: able to see and give inspiration. So it's a different feeling, right,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: I didn't seen you drive amazing cars down Virginia Beach
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: and come on Hampton's campus. I didn't that see that.
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: I didn't see you in Harlem riding up one hundred
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: twenty fifth Street going to Grants Tomb and being able
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: to talk to you. So it's a different inspiration. Some
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: inspired by their music and some inspired by being able
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: to see. And that was the thing with me when
• 43:41
  Speaker 2: it came to Teddy Rabby.
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: Well, i'd say maybe to them and all of the
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: how you say, the high President's CEOs and all of that.
• 43:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think that they think of.
• 43:55
  Speaker 4: Me as It's not too many people can say they
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: created a genre of music. Yeah, like a whole genre
• 44:02
  Speaker 4: of music like that's.
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: But it's different.
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: Let me say this and I'm gonna keep it one hundred.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: I created that music. It became a genre. Everybody loved it, right,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: But when they can't control it, what do they do?
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: That's not don't don't don't let them get by that music.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: Get up there. He's gonna take our job. You know
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: that type of thing. You know what I mean, y'all
• 44:30
  Speaker 3: get where I'm coming from. So that's why I stay
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: New true m hm. And that's why I can go
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: and hang out with the Jimy Ivins. And because I'm
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: not intimidating m I'm just little teddy.
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: I will say.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: There are records that I didn't realize you even produced,
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: are co produced. Like one of my favorite songs of
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: all time, Like I'm literally like probably top three maybe
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: number one is marriage Oblige.
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: We have it. I know you the co produce on it.
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: No, I did the remix remix. No, I'm good, I'm good. Yeah,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I did the remix, actually did. He was the one
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: who wanted me to do the remix of that and
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: oh God, my love. Yeah, and uh it was another one.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: But I just kept doing remixes. I was the remix guy,
• 45:23
  Speaker 3: you know, and then they would make me the co write,
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: co producer. But as far as I know, I was
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: just a remixer, you know. So like I said, anything
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: that came my way, I was just touching it.
• 45:35
  Speaker 2: What made you jump into the k pop game so early?
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: I went into the k pop game because of uh,
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: it's the first bad beatya I ever gotten? Was I
• 45:47
  Speaker 3: you know, got into a situation with my with my
• 45:49
  Speaker 3: daughter and and uh it just made me say, you
• 45:53
  Speaker 3: know what, let me go away, go to Korea. Yeah, yeah,
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: and yeah, y'all will see that, and y'all probably read it.
• 46:02
  Speaker 3: I think it's in the book because Robert. But I
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: went to Korea because some guys, a company out there
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: was stealing our publishing because we had we've been doing
• 46:13
  Speaker 3: the music for them, but they was taking the publishing
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: and we ain't know that ASKAP is just for America
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: and they had conquer and Korea that's their own music
• 46:25
  Speaker 3: society company, and it's like, man, they're stealing our music.
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: So me and my boys we were like, yo, we
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: need to take a trip to Korea. And we took
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: it to her and said, man, we ain't going to
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: Korea to fight. We're just going to find out what's
• 46:41
  Speaker 3: really going on and say, yo, it's this ain't fair.
• 46:44
  Speaker 3: And we wound up going out there and meeting sm
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: Entertainment and uh YG Music and you know, the movies
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: and the shakers out there, and we met one guy, Taysong.
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: He introduced us to everybody and he actually helped us
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: with getting our publishing and music rights back and it
• 47:05
  Speaker 3: was Shim who did it. Two weeks turned into two
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: months into two years.
• 47:11
  Speaker 2: So you lived out there for two years.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: He loved it so much.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: Amazing.
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 47:15
  Speaker 3: And then when Heavy D passed, I came back because
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: I was talking to Heavy D while I was out
• 47:20
  Speaker 3: there because he he wanted to work on his new
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: album and he's like, yo, you got to come back, man,
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: we need you on this album. And I said, okay,
• 47:29
  Speaker 3: I'll be back and we were talking on Skype and
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: next thing, you know, passed away.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: When people read this book what do you hope they
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: understand about you that they never saw you know on stage.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Or in the music. Just a roadmap. Watch and read
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: about my mistakes so you don't make them, and then
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: read about the good things and try them. They'll work
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: for you.
• 47:55
  Speaker 5: What's your favorite song of your career?
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Bag, I can't give you one. Okay, Remember the Time?
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: No diggity my prerogative.
• 48:06
  Speaker 5: No diggity is my favorite. Really, no diggity, no doubt,
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: it's one of my favorite. And then I wouldn't say, like,
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: what's your least well, what was the most complicated song
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: that you worked on the most complicated artists that you had?
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, I didn't really have a complicated artist, but complicated
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: song was Remember the Time. Really, I'll tell you why,
• 48:33
  Speaker 3: because we spent a lot of time on that record,
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: and Michael was just sent us back to the drawing
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: board when the mix wasn't right. So finally he was like,
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: do you think you should go back to Virginia and
• 48:45
  Speaker 3: mixed the song. We went back to Virginia to mix
• 48:48
  Speaker 3: that song, me and John Marie, and he was like,
• 48:53
  Speaker 3: so why are you there? Mixed dangerous to mix because
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: he loved the sound of Virginia and that's everybody. Everybody
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: would say, Yo, Virginia was probably one of the best
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: studios I've ever had. So it was remember the time
• 49:09
  Speaker 3: because we did the first verse. Michael. After the first verse,
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: he felt so good. The dude just took a trip
• 49:17
  Speaker 3: to Switzerland. He had built the mall in Switzerland and
• 49:21
  Speaker 3: he took a trip.
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: Michael built the mall, yeah.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: And he had to approve the stores, so he went
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: out there and he spent two weeks. And I'm like, Michael,
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: come on, man, this is I was tired. I said,
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: I want to go back home to Virginia because I
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: had just had the studio built and everything, and I'm
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: sitting in the studio. We think he coming back. In
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: the same second verse, he was gone and I said, Michael,
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: I want to see my family. He's like, bring them,
• 49:51
  Speaker 3: bring them to to California. I said, well, I messed
• 49:54
  Speaker 3: my friends too. He said, bring them to So I
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: bust s brag everybody. They came down. I said, so,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: what we're gonna do for cars? He said, do whatever
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: you need, just tell Norma. And uh That's when I
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: know I was like, wow, mm hmm, this guy is.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: What Yeah, what do you mean for cars? And we
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: just got everybody calls, He got every white cars.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: He switched our hotel to the Nico, which is now
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: the SLS. Yeah, it used to be the Nico. And
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: he put me in the room, the indecent proposal room
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: where they had the piano. He put me in there.
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: He's like, you know, your wife is coming down and
• 50:35
  Speaker 3: your daughter's coming down. I have something special for you.
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: And he put me in that room. And then all
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: my friends and everybody, he put them in rooms in
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: the Nico. So we all in the Nico. We had
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: spriend we had everything we wanted, and it's just like, wow,
• 50:50
  Speaker 3: that Michael's really special. You know. When we did Joy,
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: Joy was supposed to have been for the Micael album, and uh,
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: he didn't feel like he had that special person in
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: his life. So he's like, I think I'm gonna wait
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: on this. So I asked him, can we put it
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: on the Black Street album? And he was like sure,
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: can we use your name? Sure? Can we use your backgrounds?
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: Of course? Do I have to give you the money back?
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: He's like no, hmmm, the But that's how specially he
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: was to me. You know, he was just a great brother.
• 51:30
  Speaker 3: And he was that mentor that showed me a lot
• 51:33
  Speaker 3: of things, like I would call him about business and
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: decisions and he would call me about females. And I
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: could say that now you know, the non disclosure is over.
• 51:47
  Speaker 4: Did you don't feel pressure because you know he did
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: all that great work with Quincy Jones, like you know,
• 51:52
  Speaker 4: now it was your turn. Did you ever feel like,
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: oh man, I'm competing against what Quincy did.
• 51:58
  Speaker 3: No, because Quincy always pushed me. When you got someone
• 52:03
  Speaker 3: that's pushing you, you don't think of them as your competition.
• 52:06
  Speaker 3: They are the Sinsey. And I always say, you know,
• 52:09
  Speaker 3: you don't override the Sinsey. You go with the Sinsey,
• 52:15
  Speaker 3: follow his tutelage, you know. And that's what I did.
• 52:19
  Speaker 3: I just had to give Michael, you know, well, Quincy
• 52:22
  Speaker 3: gave big sound. It was really about big sound because
• 52:26
  Speaker 3: the music in this, you know, the lyrics, everything was there,
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: you know. And I had the white people. I had
• 52:32
  Speaker 3: Tammy Lucas, I had Bernard Bell, who won't remember the
• 52:38
  Speaker 3: time with me. I had Rex in effect, I bought Rex.
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: In effect, I introduced him to heavy D. Just putting
• 52:45
  Speaker 3: that whole thing together, and he really made me a
• 52:47
  Speaker 3: big part of that project.
• 52:51
  Speaker 6: When the world was having all those other conversations about
• 52:53
  Speaker 6: Michael Jackson, like the cases and all that stuff, Right,
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: you as a friend, like how did how did you?
• 52:59
  Speaker 6: I guess how was supporting him through that time because
• 53:02
  Speaker 6: he had done you know, a whole different side of him, right,
• 53:04
  Speaker 6: he had done so much for you As a friend.
• 53:06
  Speaker 3: Like college, I was always there. Yeah, yeah, I think
• 53:09
  Speaker 3: y'all saw that I went up against Oprah. I was like, Yo,
• 53:13
  Speaker 3: this is not right. You know, the whole thing about
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: all the lies about you know, what they think he did.
• 53:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm so happy that the actual evidence came up.
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: You know, it was all a plan. H Now, That's
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: why I stay private.
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: Michael is the one person, you know, and whenever celebrity
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: is getting stuff, they'd be like they trying to tap
• 53:36
  Speaker 4: him down, the system, trying to tay him down. He
• 53:37
  Speaker 4: was trying to buy NBC. He's the one celebrity I
• 53:40
  Speaker 4: always say, like, nah, they really was trying to get Michael.
• 53:43
  Speaker 4: Michael had too much power. Yeah, and I really hope
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: that in the movie they explore, you know, what he
• 53:48
  Speaker 4: did on the publishing side, so people know how much
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: power he actually had.
• 53:52
  Speaker 3: I hope so as well. I know that I have
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: a few songs in there, but I'm hoping that, you know,
• 53:59
  Speaker 3: they give that road map because most times they just
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: make the film and make it look glorious or whatever
• 54:06
  Speaker 3: it is. But I think the truth needs to come
• 54:09
  Speaker 3: out now.
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: Yeah, oh and real quick on the back right. I
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: can't help but to see all these beautiful remarks people
• 54:16
  Speaker 5: left for you. But doctor Ray said, Teddy's just dope.
• 54:19
  Speaker 5: I could rule something better than that. Did you ask
• 54:21
  Speaker 5: him to elaborate or expound on what you mean?
• 54:24
  Speaker 3: No? I wasn't there, so you know what everybody wanted
• 54:27
  Speaker 3: to say, you know, they said it, and you know
• 54:30
  Speaker 3: Dre always felt that way.
• 54:32
  Speaker 1: You know, you're just dope. Yeah.
• 54:34
  Speaker 3: Me and him started at the same time with Jerry Curls,
• 54:37
  Speaker 3: and at nineteen eighty five he was he was with
• 54:40
  Speaker 3: the Wrecking Cool. I was with kids at work and
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: we joked about it last week. You know, he was
• 54:45
  Speaker 3: just like, oh, you know we started the same time.
• 54:47
  Speaker 3: He's like, yeah, man, I said, he's like nineteen eighty
• 54:52
  Speaker 3: five and we just bust out laughing. What about the Curls.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: So on the West Coast, it was the real stuff,
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: like the parents stuff, on the East Coast. It was
• 55:03
  Speaker 3: the s Curls with the pink juice and were just
• 55:06
  Speaker 3: you know, lefting the butt. Why why.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: This is just it? Don't do that?
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: It is I got two more questions, right, okay? Are
• 55:22
  Speaker 4: you Are you tough on samples? Like when somebody wants
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: to sample your music, are you tough on the artists?
• 55:27
  Speaker 3: No? Actually, I'm getting to the bottom of that because
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: a lot of stuff, a lot of my music have
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: been sampled. And I think I've owned my publishing since
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty three or twenty twenty two, and I have
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: not gotten no clearance, nothing. And I have to be
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: in a universal about this because it's not cool that
• 55:49
  Speaker 3: I own. I don't owe nobody nothing. My publishing is
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: free and clear. But you're still clearing my songs without
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: my permission.
• 55:59
  Speaker 2: What's the last what's the last song that you heard?
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: That?
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: It was a piece of my love and it was
• 56:08
  Speaker 3: another one. In fact, we're we're we're checking them on
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: this Michael Jackson film, because no one came to me
• 56:17
  Speaker 3: about this Michael Jackson film. And I got dangerous, remember
• 56:20
  Speaker 3: the time, and I think jamn.
• 56:24
  Speaker 5: Mind out that the music was in there.
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: Nobody came to but we found out through a friend
• 56:29
  Speaker 3: of mine. He's you know, because they want me to
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: go to the mayor in Indiana, and I said, I
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: ain't going nowhere until I found out who did what.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: I will not support it. I'm like Quincy, I told you,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: I learned from my sense because he did the same thing.
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: You gotta really get into your business, and I need
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: to know why is that?
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: Mhm.
• 56:55
  Speaker 4: So there's a phenomenal artist from South Carolina named Trap Dickey.
• 56:59
  Speaker 4: He saymple that yeah, fact him hear?
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: Did they get that clear? Did they get that clean
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: through you?
• 57:07
  Speaker 3: Nobody came to us?
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: Damn.
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: So we'll get into the bottom of it.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, record though, ye record, it's fire. Tell you you
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: just got to get clear.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: My last question, if you remember the Times were required
• 57:22
  Speaker 4: reading for the music industry, what lesson do you think
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: executives would be most uncomfortable confronting?
• 57:31
  Speaker 3: You know, I didn't really say much about the executive.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: I said more about the people who have who have
• 57:37
  Speaker 3: taken me to the executives and basically like you know
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: to me, like yeah, here's my you know, it's my artist,
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: it's my producer. You know, do whatever you want. With it.
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Just give me the money, damn. Yeah.
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: And there's no way to protect artists from that.
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: Well yeah, now of course, And that's why that's what
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: I want people to read. This is the way you
• 58:03
  Speaker 3: protect yourself. This is what you need to do. You know,
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: sometimes you're gonna have to stop, hold up because they
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: need you, they want your sound. But you got to
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: get the business right. Just stop.
• 58:19
  Speaker 2: Were you have it. Make sure you pick up the book.
• 58:21
  Speaker 2: Remember the time February tenth, Teddy Icon Teddy. We appreciate
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: you so much.
• 58:27
  Speaker 3: I appreciate y'all too.
• 58:29
  Speaker 2: You know, done for this community, is this culture, this
• 58:32
  Speaker 2: music industry, boy, because like I said, the inspiration you
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: gave so many kids is just the reason why a
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: lot of kids, I'm sure are in this music industry
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: right now. Just seeing the kids from Harlem that was
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: able to make it, it means a lot to people.
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: Brother. I'm so grateful to even know that you know,
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: and and kids come up to me. I do like
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: nam and all of the different confidence and shows and
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: when I appear, you know, it's like a magnet and
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: I love it, you know, to be able to talk
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: to them. So I've never done a master class you know,
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: which will be coming up soon. But all of this
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: stuff is starting now, which I'm I'm happy being that
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: I know my business. I know how to to do it,
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: you know, and get the right what I'm worth, you know,
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: because I've never gotten what i'm worth. What I'm worth.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: You have it, ladies, It's Teddy Riley. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: Good morning every day I wake.
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: Click your glass up, the Breakfast Club. Finish for y'all. Done,