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Episode 175 | "1% Talk" · Corie Sheppard Podcast

• 1:03
  Speaker 1: You never say to me that you love me.
• 1:05
  Speaker 1: You only told me you want to dance, but you ain't rubbing up and massaging anybody Feeling like.
• 1:17
  Speaker 1: You want to romance and I don't like you Rubbing up, rubbing up.
• 1:20
  Speaker 1: I'm rubbing up, rubbing up.
• 1:22
  Speaker 1: Don't try to make me a big hit.
• 1:25
  Speaker 1: You better dance with your dancing body.
• 1:28
  Speaker 1: It's an illegal act to come.
• 1:32
  Speaker 1: You better control your hands, change your plan.
• 1:35
  Speaker 1: Don't rub me.
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: Rubbing down, you're so my woman.
• 1:39
  Speaker 1: Don't rub me.
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: Gentlemen, keep your head on.
• 1:44
  Speaker 1: Remember you only have to dance.
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: Why you looking for romance Dancing?
• 1:49
  Speaker 2: Why don't rub me, be rubby Ooh.
• 1:54
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.
• 1:57
  Speaker 2: When you see, life are your dong right, just play Johnny K Sing.
• 2:10
  Speaker 1: If you want to prove you are a good dancer.
• 2:12
  Speaker 1: Feeling and holding me close is fine.
• 2:16
  Speaker 1: You did never get no consent to explore my figure.
• 2:20
  Speaker 1: Nothing and nothing is out of line.
• 2:24
  Speaker 1: But I don't like you Rubbing up, rubbing up.
• 2:27
  Speaker 1: I'm rubbing up, rubbing up.
• 2:29
  Speaker 1: I am a loaded to friction Because it's a pain in the foot, rubbing.
• 2:34
  Speaker 1: Keep going to spring, be happy, stop it, don't go nabbing, take a break.
• 2:41
  Speaker 1: You're, rubbing, rubbing down, you're.
• 2:45
  Speaker 1: So, my woman, you're rubbing.
• 2:47
  Speaker 1: Gentlemen, keep your head on.
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: Remember you only have to dance.
• 2:52
  Speaker 1: Why you looking for romance Dancing?
• 2:55
  Speaker 1: Why don't rub me?
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: You're rubbing.
• 3:11
  Speaker 2: I want you to start to expect.
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, as a matter of fact, it makes sense to talk about expecting.
• 3:33
  Speaker 2: I call it an expect that already it releases a lot of sporadic.
• 3:37
  Speaker 2: There's a lot going on, a lot is happening.
• 3:39
  Speaker 2: We're here, we're here.
• 3:41
  Speaker 2: So when it catches, you catch it right.
• 3:43
  Speaker 2: And should I make up with volume?
• 3:46
  Speaker 2: My man tell me the other day Do two a week.
• 3:48
  Speaker 2: I said, boy, I struggling to make the one, I struggling to get the one on time.
• 3:51
  Speaker 2: I'm sure if I could make you two a week.
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: But welcome back.
• 3:55
  Speaker 2: I hope everybody had a great week all day.
• 3:57
  Speaker 2: I hope you're having a productive week this week and I hope everybody good.
• 4:02
  Speaker 2: I take a little step out on the weekend.
• 4:03
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you all about that.
• 4:04
  Speaker 2: I don't come out too often, so every time I come out I'll be shocked.
• 4:07
  Speaker 2: I have a theory about Lyman and Shagona.
• 4:10
  Speaker 2: Anytime you come out of your house and you're Lyman and Shagona and you bounce up here in the right place, honestly, here in the right place, all this here in the right place, and Alexander get back together and he's like the leaving of the earless in, no more what they call it beyond the tape, and immediately men start to make Backbed Fellows and things.
• 4:29
  Speaker 2: The political game, just like the media game or this strange bedfellows or politics have a morality of its own, like media have a morality of its own.
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: But whatever it is, Let me jump into the things that this week.
• 4:41
  Speaker 2: Now I have some songs lined up for later player.
• 4:44
  Speaker 2: I take a deep dive into Johnny King.
• 4:46
  Speaker 2: For some strange reason this week I just end up listening to some Johnny King and they have a particular song, maybe before I even get into the issues of the week, because most of what we had to talk about is KFC.
• 4:58
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm telling you now Is about the all-water KFC.
• 5:00
  Speaker 2: So if you're planning to boycott KFC, be prepared for this episode To make you feel for KFC If you end up there in some trouble.
• 5:11
  Speaker 2: But I always remember I was talking last week about Meeting Mr Cyrus and how interesting it was for me to meet him and hear him singing Golo and some of his compositions, and I tell you just how you were telling the 10th story I was talking about last week.
• 5:29
  Speaker 2: There are plenty of men I've bounced up over the years Playing music and things where there are men who have a little song.
• 5:33
  Speaker 2: The song's song is decent and for some reason they never really break through.
• 5:37
  Speaker 2: I suppose when you're looking at artists, like any other career or any other profession, the cream is right to the top.
• 5:43
  Speaker 2: The cream is always the 1%.
• 5:45
  Speaker 2: The other 20% is when he fringes and the other 1% who make it into superstardom.
• 5:49
  Speaker 2: But sometimes when I hear a man's song, them songs just stick with me over the years and I wonder what would have caused that person To not get through in the 10s and get through in music.
• 6:00
  Speaker 2: And this is a fellow who I hear his music.
• 6:03
  Speaker 2: I'll tell you the strangest story.
• 6:04
  Speaker 2: I was just livin' in St James and there's a little bit of Anderson Street, st James, and if you know Anderson Street or if you know St James at all, the street grew up in a little bit the same.
• 6:15
  Speaker 2: Where you know it has some mechanic who's worked from the street side mechanic.
• 6:18
  Speaker 2: That's a big thing here and there's a mechanic on the street named Andy.
• 6:22
  Speaker 2: Andy used to pull in his eyes and he's fixing car, or right On the street itself or by Moku.
• 6:28
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean right in the area, the men who live in the area and handymen supporting and helping Andy.
• 6:34
  Speaker 2: Andy's a real mechanic and he know the mechanic Work on them thing, right, but he's across from Andy and he's a little bit of a darrum and it's a little zone and a Saturday morning is a zone when everybody come together to get a car fix and think, no, well, let's just buy a new car.
• 6:50
  Speaker 2: You know, let's not fix a car and that kind of thing again, you just, whatever a car expire, buy a new car.
• 6:54
  Speaker 2: But Back in them days this Saturday morning Is a vibe because everybody born it up, people taking a little drink, they're linemen and that kind of thing.
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: And I always remember this fellow Telling me about a song he played.
• 7:06
  Speaker 2: He's singing a song, he's singing a recorder song, right, and I guess in my simple mind Back then, when I hear a man sing a song and he's not a superstar, I started to get annoyed.
• 7:18
  Speaker 2: I was like, oh god, this is going to be one of them.
• 7:20
  Speaker 2: Rampada, ampada.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: I'm thinking you know what I mean.
• 7:22
  Speaker 2: I think we're going to song, good at all, right, but I want to play this song that a man play for me, because he end up playing that song the whole Saturday morning.
• 7:29
  Speaker 2: Now I don't know, I don't know if the other man, like Andy and them had Know who he was, and so on.
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: The man named the man is Gary Codner, right, and he started playing that song and that song stick with me all over the years and I just so happen to be good With that Johnny King deep dive this week and I bonked up this song.
• 7:46
  Speaker 2: I want to play this for you because I like it bad.
• 7:48
  Speaker 2: I hope I like it too.
• 8:26
  Speaker 1: I feel too.
• 8:27
  Speaker 1: I want to.
• 9:05
  Speaker 2: Alright, that's done.
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: I'm so losing a guy.
• 9:07
  Speaker 2: You know big, big song.
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: That's why my memory comes up on my mind.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: I have to share that with you.
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm going to play this KFC saga.
• 9:14
  Speaker 2: Right, we are playing the talk about KFC today, so prepare to be hungry.
• 9:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know what time.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: Always listen to this.
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: I hope it's not late in the night and you're going to order a KFC.
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: But it seems to be the case that Trinidadians are sticking to their guns and boycotting KFC.
• 9:29
  Speaker 2: I've seen on social media all over Twitter and then pictures of empty KFCs.
• 9:32
  Speaker 2: Now, do you think about the empty KFC pictures?
• 9:34
  Speaker 2: I've seen it looking like it's late in the night.
• 9:36
  Speaker 2: When KFC closed, you know, I mean, it's not tricky, that's not easy, but a fake.
• 9:40
  Speaker 2: So it'd be just as good as a protest or a boycott, right?
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: But for all intents and purposes, even places like KFC Dong Tong that is open 24 hours and always have people in it, you see, in empty shelves in the KFC, I mean empty lines, no more queues, you know, people, people staying away.
• 10:01
  Speaker 2: I have a few theories on that.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm going to get into some economic theory and some marketing theory.
• 10:06
  Speaker 2: Right, to talk about why this from not going on the last Prices, going on whole and all that right, but I'm going to start by talking about Prestige Holdings recording increased profits.
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: Right, prestige Holdings records 56% Profit increases from Shweta Sharma.
• 10:20
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 10:21
  Speaker 2: For the financial years 2023, prestige Holdings recorded a profit, before taxing, $84 million compared to $54 million in 2022.
• 10:30
  Speaker 2: Listen, impressive, you know Impressive.
• 10:35
  Speaker 2: In two years, the government make our $138 million profit.
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: I like it and that's profit, red profit before tax, right, so the government going with about 30% of that.
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: So the immense, you know, in our 100 million In two years out of snack box and these things.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: According to its published consolidated Orditive financial results for the 12 months Ended November 30th 2023, phl's revenue increased by 20% To $1.3 billion From $1.1 billion.
• 11:05
  Speaker 2: Right, dears and boy.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: We buying a billion Dollars worth of fast food within a year Period.
• 11:14
  Speaker 2: That's $1.3 billion, $1.3 billion.
• 11:16
  Speaker 2: $1.3 billion, $1.3 billion stand for so we clearly In this country have Affinity and a love For fast food.
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: If you have a country or 1.3 million People and we spending $1.3 billion on KFC, you do that much for me.
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: Now Divide that by that and tell me how much each individual Spending on fast food in a year.
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: I ain't say KFC alone, I'm sorry, prestige Holdings as a whole.
• 11:45
  Speaker 2: We go talk about all the businesses that Prestige Holdings owns.
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: Right, the financial year was one of investment and growth.
• 11:50
  Speaker 2: Has been significant Effort and success Towards returning our business operations To pre-pandemic levels and achieving Sustainable growth and profitability.
• 11:58
  Speaker 2: Phl said Cash flow statements and so on.
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: Chairman Christian Mute In his report said all our Brands posted significant operational and financial improvements over the year.
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: The group's overall profitability 84 million was a historical high and reflective of the investments In our people and assets.
• 12:18
  Speaker 2: Key word here Historical high.
• 12:22
  Speaker 2: Right, that means that While they were trying to get because I remember Coming here and talking about this During the pandemic and Prestige Holdings, I can't remember if I was looking at quarterly losses or significant drop-offs and profit.
• 12:34
  Speaker 2: If I remember right, it was quarterly losses right During the pandemic, where, of course, where they closed and you have a whole set of overheads that you currently you can't do anything about it, your property costs is your property costs, and so on.
• 12:46
  Speaker 2: You're not going to avoid that, even though your restaurants closed.
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: So I want to believe it's losses.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: I was reading about it, but, either way, what I'm saying here is that they have A lot of people who are.
• 12:55
  Speaker 2: What I'm saying here is that they have surpassed the levels they Were at before the pandemic.
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: So, in other words, they are their Highest levels.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: No, phl operates the KFC, so here they think they're running right.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: They're running KFC Pizza Hut, subway, starbucks, anti-jf Fridays.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: So you think about it when you're thinking, making our fast food choices the way to go which you know what I mean which place you want to buy at, feeling for Subway, feeling for KFC All of them contributing to the profitability Of Prestige Holdings as a whole.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: I want to make it clear as well that Prestige Holdings is also on the stock exchange.
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: So for all of you who feel like Boycotting KFC is the answer To avoid, well, it's your money.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: We all have to make a decision about where we spend our money.
• 13:52
  Speaker 2: If you feel like the price is gone, I'll put you on the get-go and Boycotting it is the answer To keep your money in your pockets.
• 13:59
  Speaker 2: Avoid or force the price back down so you can continue to enjoy your Thousands of dollars worth of KFC every year.
• 14:04
  Speaker 2: Remember as well that One of the options we always have is that you can go on the stock exchange and buy Prestige Holdings shares.
• 14:11
  Speaker 2: Ah, share in Prestige Holdings Is cheaper than a snack box.
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: Ha ha ha ha.
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: One share is $10.50, right?
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: So if, For instance, $1.3 billion divided by $1.3 million is a thousand dollars a person, right?
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: I know how my good man, matt, is Right.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: If you take that same $1,000 a year, you could.
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: You could get yourself a good bit of shares in Prestige Holdings Year by year.
• 14:37
  Speaker 2: And instead of and I'm knocking the idea Of Boycotting, I'm saying instead of Just Boycotting KFC so that they stop raising the prices and annoy and mash up your old budgets and the price gauging and all the different things I read in these articles One of the options they have is also to become A owner of Prestige Holdings and benefit from the love of KFC Subway, starbucks, pizza Hut and TGI Fridays that Trindadion seems to have.
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: I was seeing somewhere that they own lenders too, but their website doesn't say anything about lenders.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find who own lenders Bakery, because if they own lenders too, that would be particularly impressive.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: Ah, I ain't see no news on who own lenders here.
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: But Prestige have enough coverage and enough Enough of a hold On Trindadion and Tobago To earn themselves Multiple.
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: When you looking at profitability, $100 million after profit, after tax Over two years is impressive, no pun intended.
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: Right In 2024, phl plans to open Two more Starbucks outlets in Guyano and new stores in Trindadion and Tobago.
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: If I am not mistaken, I do not think they own the KFC Franchise in Guyano.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: At the end of the year, phl had 184 restaurants, including 5 new Units, 4 Starbucks outlets in Trindadion and Tobago and one outlet in Guyano.
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: Ah Well, they have more than 4 here now, or they just own more new units.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Starbucks has a good bit of Purchase and we also completed 3 KFC remodels and relocated one Starbucks Outlet during the period.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: In 2024, they plan to open Two more Starbucks outlets in Guyano and two new stores in Trindadion and Tobago.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: Looking forward, we expect to build any progress made last year and also continue on new Store and remodeling investment program Based on financial performance.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Phl has announced a dividend of 30 cents Per common share.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: So Sometimes I take it for granted that everybody knows how these things work and sometimes I also feel like Explaining these things is rudimentary.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I will default to explaining it.
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Forgive me if I am just talking about things.
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: That Is common knowledge.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: When you buy a stock, it has two ways to make money.
• 16:58
  Speaker 2: The two ways you are making money is Capital Appreciation.
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: If you buy the PHL for 10.50, the share price could go up To 15.00, which means you make 50% basically On your money, right?
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: So you buy it for 10.00, you sell it for 15.00.
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: It's just like buying and selling any other commodity and making a profit in our business.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: You buy some t-shirts, you sell that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: You make a profit.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: The shares Tend to go up in price when they have a good outlook On future performance.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: So if you feel like that company going to do good or the companies that PHL owns they are going to do good over the next few years, or whatever it is, they expect that the price will go up.
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: So they only feel like prestige holdings or do good over the foreseeable future, especially when you have green markets Like Guyana.
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: They currently experience A boom and if, if Prestige Holdings has a franchise to open Starbucks in Guyana, I could make a hazard.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: I guess that Guyana and Starbucks going to go well together Because if we just look at our own trajectory how we grow up and how we live versus how we are now we experience a boom.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Some of us in our time when we were small, right, and in that boom we stop cooking home, everybody in the household start to work and we get more and more frustrated.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: We get more and more money and we need more and more coffee.
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: Right, we get more fast food and we had to eat in the car and eat on the run and we're doing classes on our weekend and we have a master's on our Sunday.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Starbucks and them probably going to do very well in Guyana.
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: And if they only franchise for that, they had to look at the Guyana market and tell them alright, if Trinidad had 12 Starbucks, how much of them Starbucks Guyana could hold and make that?
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: You know people will.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: The experts will look forward and try to determine what is that $10.50 share price?
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: What will it look like at the end of next year you tell me if you feel like we'll go up or not.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: You don't want to make money when you buy shares through dividends, right?
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: When that company make profits, they will typically allocate some part of the profit to dividends.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Dividend is basically a share of the profit.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: So they say everybody here getting 30% per share.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Sometimes you might see dividends stated as a percentage.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: So they might say alright, here, what's going on?
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Of all the money we make, we have $100 million.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: We're going to put 2.5% as dividends and then they split it up according to how much shares they have.
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: So you could earn 30 cents per share and dividends is tax free money.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: You don't turn that in like a tax free dollar.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: Dividend is tax free, right?
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: So if you take your money and invest it in, that is another way to benefit from that.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: You say share.
• 19:37
  Speaker 2: Those are probably going to tell dividends payable for the financial year to 45 cents.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: So they declare 30 cents.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: A believe for?
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: Well, they may say they're saying 45 cents here, which means they're going to declare 15 cents sometime during the year, and now they declare the additional 30 cents.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: So for the year again, 45 cents on the share, not on the dollar on the share.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: So for every share you own you collect a 45 cents.
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: You do the multiplication and tell me how much shares you'll have to have for the dividend to mean something for you or to do something for you or to offset the additional price that you're paying in KFC a year.
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: So if, for instance, my calculation right and the average household, the average individual and trend, that's spending a thousand dollars on KFC right by my rough and crude maths right, and let me say your household are four people, that mean you're spending $4,000 a year on KFC.
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: Basically, in your household, if there's a 45 cents dividend, you could actually offset any increases in price or your whole cost of your KFC experience, which we love so much, by owning shares and presage holdings.
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: I'm using KFC loosely right, because I would assume that KFC is the flagship in their portfolio, meaning the biggest company with bringing in the most profits and have the most revenues.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: But keep in mind that there's KFC, pizza Hut, tgi Fridays, subway and Starbucks.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: So forgive me, forgive me for the little boring start and thing, but I find it such an interesting discussion that we always take this approach as consumers collectively.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: The thing is business meant a we you know what I mean we not affecting business or doing business Sometimes like collectively.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: Right, I'm talking about people individually.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying that the general discussion on social media seems to always be oh God, there is the prices again.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: We go boycott, and that useful, that useful.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: But it's also useful to try to find out a little more about these companies and see how we could become benefit beneficiaries, how you say that Fisheries all right, we could benefit from this thing too.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: We could be part of the business and be part of the prestige holdings and enjoy these little things.
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: I also remember, maybe, maybe, maybe, just before Carnival or whenever it was, maybe last budget, when they talk about increasing minimum wage.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I was talking about the fact that minimum wage increases is a snuff, a la fagasse.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: You remember Snuffy from how they Call the Show.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: It's a snuffy, it does not mean a whole lot, right, when you increase minimum wage.
• 22:11
  Speaker 2: I want to put it to you that when you increase minimum wage, what you tend to do is push up the average price of products, particularly consumer products.
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I will talk about the types of products today, right?
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: Is that real class today?
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: You know we're going into lecture in mode.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I might cancel class Saturday and just let them listen to this, right?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: But your reality is this If you had $20 an hour before, let me say you was making $5,000 a month before and I give you $10,000 a month now and I give everybody else the same $10,000 a month now.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Just double everybody income, right?
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: What do you think will happen at these stores?
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: I always say, when back pay comes, court's going to get money.
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: This is really economic theory.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: The issue is that if you have the same amount of things to buy in the country, the same amount of products are there and available for everybody, and everybody get more money, right?
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: The same level of productivity is there.
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: What tends to happen Lord will always happen is that what people do is bid up the price of the existing goods.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: And I can make an lecture on Mr Ram Singh, right?
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: Mr Ram Singh was one of the greatest economic teachers ever.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: It's a little Mr Ram Singh in Fatima and Mr Elder, too Elders, elders, you know my elder Great.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: So they used to use Mr Ram Singh.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: He's an example of a cork, right?
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Like you know his cork back a bottle of wine.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: He says so if you have a big block of cork, he used to ask the class you know this big block of cork, right?
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: All this something kind of.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: But if you have this big block, I mean we're gonna do it out, have no value.
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: In other words, he asking us, if we had $10 now, how much we would pay for this big block of that?
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: And everybody is like zero, nobody don't want that.
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: Like what what?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: What would you?
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: What would you want that to do?
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: We don't.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: I don't own a winery, I don't know what to do with this big block of cork and say, all right, cool.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: So let me change the scenario.
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: If I carry all the out on the islands and halfway to reaching Monos Island, I throw everybody off the boat.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Everybody's still at the same $10, right?
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: He's saying a troll block of cork out in his head and say, listen, how much you're willing to pay for that?
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Now, everybody say $10 because the reality is that now is life saving and need that floating device to save my life, so I'll pay any amount of money for that and hold on to that and float down Monos and let the rest of them drown.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: Right, I go pay the $10, right.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: So a few issues coming out there at the same time.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Number one, where he was trying to teach us is a concept called elasticity of demand.
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: You're right he was trying to tell us, listen, demand have a way according to the type of product that you're selling.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: It has some products that very, very important to you and it has some products that not that important to you.
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: So call it necessities and so on, as according to what the product will do for you in the end, that determines what a change in the price of the product will do for you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: So he's saying that basically, in this scenario we're talking about where we sit on any classroom and they have a block of cork, that product had no value at all.
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: He wasn't paying nothing for it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: But when he changed the scenario and he changed the level of necessity by putting it in his head and he put the cork out there for us to float, I feel I should just say float in the device.
• 25:20
  Speaker 2: I don't like how this song and he put the float in the device out there for us Now people willing to pay for it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: So the way we look at elasticity is I want to see when the change, when our price changes, how much does it affect people willingness to pay for the item or how much does it affect the demand for the item?
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: Right, because demand is just a one to a need backed by the ability and willingness to pay for it.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: So that concept about elasticity is so important in economics Because when I change the scenario and the float in the device become critical, people will spend any money they have.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: Before going further with that, let me explain this thing about price increases.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: If I was to change the price to $20 and if I was to give everybody more money, instead of giving everybody $10, I give them $100.
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Where it think happens.
• 26:13
  Speaker 2: If I throw that float in the device Now, rather than just paying $10 for it, everybody would be willing to pay $100 for it.
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: That is the same thing that happens when you increase the minimum wage.
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: All you do is because all I have is the one floating device.
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: So if they have somebody who have more money than everybody else in the water, they are drawing that person going to pay whatever they have.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if I give them $10, I give them $100, I give them $1000, the price of that one floating device going to continue to increase Every time I give them drawing people more money.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: The only way to manage that pressure on the price, that upward pressure on the price, is to make more floating devices available.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: All things being equal, if I make more floating devices available for everybody, I give an alternative to a floating device.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: So instead of just the quark, I have a life jacket.
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: I have different types of things that they could use to float or even teach them how to swim.
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: If they have alternatives, that could then affect the demand for the thing.
• 27:15
  Speaker 2: But once I have the thing and it's essential to people and it's an unlimited supply the price of it going to continue to press up and up.
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: I hope it's making sense.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: So the other part of it going through the inter elasticity is that if I increase the price of that product, the demand not going to fall off by much.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: So if it is, I say listen, I only had this one floating device, but instead of selling it for $10, I sell it for $30 an hour.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: It's not going to affect how much the people need it and how much they will interpay for it, because it's called an inelastic demand Right.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: When I raise price, the demand does not fall off by much.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: What went to happen is the drawing class he used to explain to us, mr Ram Singh, say what will they go do now if you only had $10, three men will come together, put together the $10 and say, well, three of we could float and it looked like we would make it, and the fastest to do that is the one who will get the floating device.
• 28:05
  Speaker 2: So when you have situations like that, well, the demand not responsive to changes in price, you know, changing price, typically when price go up demand is go down right.
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: But when price not responding to the demand doesn't respond much to price, then price changes don't make a huge difference to how much money these people make.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: So the question is this is KFC as important as a float and device in the water?
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I want to say for Trinidadians the answer is clearly yes.
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: Kfc Subway, starbucks, pizza Hut and TGI Friday is clearly clearly some of the most important products we ever had in Trinidadians, to be right.
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Well, the issue is not so much of the well.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: A factor of it is important because all of us busy, we on the road for long periods of time is inconvenient to cook and walk with food every day.
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: Kfc is more is ubiquitous.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: You know it's available everywhere.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Everywhere turns the KFC and stuff and we have a taste preference, it seems like for spicy, crispy chicken and I'm kind of thinking, right, and the marketing and all that good.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: But a part of the issue that has caused the inelasticity in products like KFC is that, even though the thing is, I see a girl say imagine $52 for a three piece of fries.
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: I used to just pay $35 the other day.
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: And I want to say sweets, I used to pay $19.99 for a three piece of fries.
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean when we buy a snack.
• 29:33
  Speaker 2: I remember when KFC snack box went up to $11, I couldn't believe it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: I thought, oh God, that used to be under $10 for a snack box at two pieces of fries.
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: Anybody else remember this, or this is just me $11, I was shocked out of my wits, like what is happening.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I remember talking to Ronald Salomo Barber, ronald, the other day, and I tell him, ronald, I say boy, kfc, and then I want to just pay my $4 for delivery.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: He's like $4?
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: He's like when last you, when last you order KFC, and he's suddenly the delivery is $20 or whatsoever.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: It is no, I'm in check.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: But the issue here is not just the taste and preferences and the importance of the product and all those types of things.
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: The issue here and the convenience and all that, a part of the issue is that even at $50 now, $50 is relatively a very small amount compared to your overall monthly budget.
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: The minimum wage takes the lowest income in this country.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: By my probably incorrect calculation, if they work at eight hour days and five days a week, I think they're supposed to land somewhere to the something hundred.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: I probably wrong about that, right, but check my back on you figure.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: They're supposed to land somewhere to the something hundred.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: Check $50 as a percentage or to the something hundred.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Let me use four to those other.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: Rough example right, if I say $50 as a percentage of $4,000, I looking at.0125 as a percentage.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: One percent, I like to talk about one percent.
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: But KFC and them things are a real small party budget, typically consumer products like this that make up such a small part of the consumer income.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: It's not consequential enough on its own for consumers to pay diligent attention to how much they pay for the product or not.
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: And it's easy for people.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: They like to say that this is a trend and I think I turned.
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: That is an auto.
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: Stand up for the right something.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: Okay, but we're saying this is easy for you to start to ignore minimal price changes in them kind of zones when is a small party income, and use things like convenience and things to justify it.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Because you're on your way home, your boycotting it yes, we're on your way home is $20.
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: You just buy it, you're on your way home and them trend Coral and I'm saying just get them trying and using it.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: I mean, get them trying a popcorn chicken, get that up in here.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: You need something healthy and you can feel the ground.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: Cut up, cut up, cut up.
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Just go somewhere and get a salad.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: We, like me, we want to cook fancy thing and every time you cook, try to cook salmon it hard like stone.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Just go and get Jack Daniels up in here.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's just easier and more convenient and these things are relatively small part of the budget.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: All the different things that I describe in leads up.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: Consumer products typically are in elastic right.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: They typically any last taking the man, meaning that changes in price do not typically leads a very big changes in demand.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: You tend to find that a large change in price leads to smaller than equal change in quantity demanded.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: How awesome.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: I represent Ram Singh.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Well, only people who know, who know the economics, would tell me how bad a song they.
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: Let me talk about some marketing now before I get back to that.
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: In marketing that different types of products right, typically in marketing we stop both four types of products.
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: It's called convenience products, shopping products, specialty products and unsought products right, and they typically have a type of marketing plan template for what type of product you're selling.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: So when we go into marketing or talking to people about doing the marketing, the first thing you had to try to identify in consumer products, that is, is I'm going to say consumer products, I mean you're selling to somebody who's taking it for consumption, not somebody, not a business to business situation right, b2c.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: The first thing we usually identify is what type of product are you selling?
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Is it convenience, shopping, specialty or unsought?
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: Let me talk about unsought first.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: Right, that's the easiest and most difficult one.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: The unsought product is products that people don't really know the need or don't really accept that they need, or, you know, they don't like to talk about it like we ain't here forever, right, we ain't here forever.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: So one of the things that we absolutely need is some kind of thing to take us out of here.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Right, me know if it's a box, a casket, me know how you plan to go.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: But to go you will.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: But we don't like talking about that, so we don't like going into.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean our young, healthy man.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: Don't just go in by guides and say you know what I have for me, about what I put on something for my whole year.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: They don't like to think that way.
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: Life insurance is another one of them to get everything good for you and trying to buy no life insurance, you know I mean you feel you're gonna live forever.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: It's not to make a child have a property others.
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: All of a sudden you know you need life insurance.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: With life insurance and those types of products is where you call unsought products, meaning that customers in their day-to-day activity don't go looking for products like those to buy.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: You know, looking for nothing like that to buy, it does not cross your mind.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: You know he made it by, though there's nothing in the day-to-day life that spurs that need on where you say you want and start shopping for it.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: So the other tree, and that means a marketing plan for those products.
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: It is variably not sure how to approach that, because some people don't even like talking about that, right?
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: So a lot of marketing plans come in the area of these three types of products convenience shopping and specialty.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: A convenience product is typically a product of mix up a small percentage, average income or the average household income.
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: People typically buy it in small quantities.
• 35:02
  Speaker 2: You buy repeated amongst.
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: We typically stick to certain brands or certain product formats.
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: We buy them often.
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: So, as an example, right, everything is seemingly grocery reneg when JT or Masio, any of them, all that whole shelf filled with his convenience products.
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: You know, ketchup and mustard and bread and egg and a hammer ice cream and all them things is convenience products.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Small, small items, a small percentage.
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: A budget in marketing.
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: We, under the reason they call them convenience products is because what drives the buying decision is convenient.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: We like to say that we prefer one brand over the next.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: All those things matter, yes, but what matters most to the consumer in that case is convenient.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I always use the example in class of doubles men, right, and I ask people was the best brand of doubles?
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Was the best brand of doubles in the country?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: And I listen to them debate about thing and green shed and they pay, and this one and they're really says St James and I know good doubles and I remuddered the studio channel.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: Okay, everything they say about doubles and everything but the number one driving decision, or the buying decision, purchasing decision for doubles.
• 36:08
  Speaker 2: The number one thing is not taste.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: So I like to tell them all doubles is the same the taste.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: The taste is not enough for you to distinguish one doubles man from the next or from one doubles man to be out superior.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: The wrestling market cannot happen.
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: It, no matter how good it is in it, matter if it's a single pass, a baseline, right, let me don't leave all here with that, because I know that is usually cause arguments in class.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: But the most important part of the time, my conclusion to that discussion is the best doubles it have is the one what closest to you that tasting good enough.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: So if you have a few close to you will buy the best tasting one in your zone.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: But what you're not going to do if you're a man like doubles and every morning is he doubles what you're not gonna do is leave where you live in a rainbow to go by no green shedding they be, to buy no doubles to go back to work, because doubles is a convenience product.
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: I got and send this in as a sudden, this to schools because right now I need a next job.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Right, I said in this to schools as my demo for why I should be lecturing in them school.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: Right, I need, I need I need another income.
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: So sorry, but this is my demo tape for any school that willing to take money.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: I'm a.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I'm a assassin for hire right now.
• 37:17
  Speaker 2: So that's why I call it a convenience product.
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: You buy it based on convenience.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Think about how you buy any grocery you're going, your Massey and a JTA and your posards and your who else?
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: They have the big boys to do your mountain groceries because it's convenient for you to get a nice park and drive a big trolley and have a big aisles, because you're gonna pack up a big set of food to carry home right, that's convenient for you.
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: It is not convenient for you to go in them big, big grocery when you just had to buy one or two items during the week and produce and a little little shadow, many finish on them thing.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: It more convenient for you to go by a little fruit stall or also you're calling market or a little small Chinese grocery in the area, largely because all those items you're driving force behind how you buy them is based on convenience.
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: A shopping product different right.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: And I would just want to say that KFC subway, kfc subway Starbucks who's the next one doing pizza?
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: And I want to say in some cases TGI Fridays right, I'm sure way to put TGI Fridays, but most of them is convenience products right, and one of the reasons why KFC is the most dominant chicken people in the country is not because they have the best tasting chicken.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Not that alone.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: It's because they have the most locations that it is more convenient for you to buy KFC.
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: No matter where you are in Trinidad is more convenient for you to reach a KFC than it is to reach any other brand.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: They consistently make it more convenient to buy from them.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: You're gonna add to how convenient they're making it.
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: They get options to buy it drive-through, to deliver to you, to come in and buy it, to get curbside.
• 38:59
  Speaker 2: They do the things to make it more and more convenient.
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: So even though you have a railcastle and you have a jabs and you have a church or something, they have more locations and the locations more convenient to access because you have to come out your motor car to buy the thing.
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: You know what else they make it convenient and how many me doing like KFC.
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: That much you know.
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: But they make a little up on your phone, right, and with the app you just select where you want.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: You have to talk to nobody.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: You think bam, bam, bam and your pay with your credit card and the thing done and then they deliver the food home.
• 39:28
  Speaker 2: So when I work, men working here and I not home, and I need to get food for them.
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: I could do that, but my body live also and I tell you workmen, and then boy here, or just going collect your food.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: You know the worry about not night and pay for it already.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Yummy, you can send gifts.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: So all they're doing is their marketing strategies about how do I make it more convenient to buy?
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: And I say in the case, don't matter.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I just say it don't matter as much as convenience, because if KFC has great as it is and only had one location and gender they care, make no hundred million dollars.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: What a profit.
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: Because nobody ain't going by that one location except the people living right in and around there, right?
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: So shopping products I will go through the next two fast, because why want to talk about moist convenience for shopping products is more items that are bigger percentage.
• 40:09
  Speaker 2: A income sometimes is more than your monthly income is a big percentage.
• 40:12
  Speaker 2: A annual income is an item that you intend to keep for a long time and it matters to your sense of self and your sense of personality and work and well-being and so on.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: So many talk about motor, car and fridge and all your plants is in the kitchen.
• 40:29
  Speaker 2: So the bigger things, the food is here and them kind of things, even things like houses, like if you're looking for apartment or you're looking for house.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: Those products are not the same as convenience products.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: People are price sensitive when it comes to those things.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: They are brand conscious, they look very carefully at what they're buying.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: They compare options.
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: Sometimes they do a spreadsheet and you say, well, alright, this place the ups and downs, and this is that the ups and downs and this fridge is that and we so those types of items.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: You are, you value more than just convenience.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: You value the shopping experience.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: These were courts and these fellows do a great job because courts makes the shopping experience better.
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: They have enough locations.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: They not kfc kind of locations, no, but they have enough locations where you can take a drive and come, and then, no, you willing to take a drive and come because you want to do the shopping.
• 41:16
  Speaker 2: They have a huge showroom with people to help you and warranties and guarantees and so on.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: So you could feel better about your life.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Because when you're gonna spend how much are fridge now, whenever you're gonna spend fridge money or car money, you worried, you tell me.
• 41:30
  Speaker 2: Tell me if it's true or not.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: If you're anything like me, you're going to be a car, you're frightened.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: You frightened to spend that money.
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: And if you go, make the payment and you had to think alone.
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: And your insurance is a whole lot that goes into buying a shopping product.
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: So you're more in the more invested in it.
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: And a specialty product is like your engagement ring, a bitos on special occasions.
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: You buy them from time to time.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: They're typically very expensive compared to your budget.
• 41:56
  Speaker 2: You're hugely brand conscious.
• 41:57
  Speaker 2: It is even more tied to your self sense of self and so on.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: So you would spend a long time trying to determine what happens with a specialty product.
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: More likely, the story is this when you go from convenience, which is at the next end of the specialty, when you go to convenience products, we don't put that among the thought in it.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: No, think about it.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: We have we brand switch relatively easy.
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: It have your feet.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: You have your favorite brand, a ketchup hunting, yes, or you know you like is a man like the sunny.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: When you go anything is drink the sunny and thing.
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: But if you to see any going to shop and it handle the sunny or just say whatever kind of water you have, the, you might call for the thing by by, by format and not by brand.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: So you just think let me guys soft drink, let me get water, let me get juice, what kind of juicy adder and your flavor come before the brand so you might say where you're pineapple, and then you watch, you say nada, I bear fruit, I don't drink beer filter, so so.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: So with convenience products, your ability to switch in between the and thing high, small price changes you're probably not even going to notice.
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: Let me repeat that right, when the men make price changes and thing, you probably even notice that right, whereas we're shopping product, that not gonna happen.
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: You know you don't leave home to go and buy a kitchen aid fridge and and come home with two will pull because the price small.
• 43:12
  Speaker 2: So when I hear the story about boycott, I always wonder like how long these things going to last, because if price is the reason that you feel you could boycott KFC for a long time, you're probably not going to be able to sustain that.
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: Not because Trinidadian, greedy and you're standing for your right.
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: That is not the reason.
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: The reason that we cannot sustain boycotts based on price for convenience products is because price is not the driving factor behind why you buy a convenience product, what it is again class convenience convenience and it is a huge inconvenience to boycott somebody like KFC if you're constantly that.
• 43:54
  Speaker 2: So again food on your run and is, but it is a huge inconvenience, so eventually they will power thing to deal with.
• 44:01
  Speaker 2: That inconvenience runs out and we run back and buy what.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: I will give people credit for it, and I'm not saying they can't and I also not saying that if they don't, kfc wouldn't buckle.
• 44:13
  Speaker 2: Kfc understand the kind of product they sell and understand how to market it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: So they know that it's not sustainable this idea of a boycott.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: They also know that they are the market leaders.
• 44:21
  Speaker 2: When they announce a price change, everybody else will announce a price change.
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: As he received coming out from Royal Castle now me, now through it is, but he chicken gone up five dollars a pepper, two dollars to catch up.
• 44:33
  Speaker 2: I hope that real castle not with that I mean that will be bad.
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: Because one thing we serious both here's condiments go.
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: We make them push back on the condiments the other day and they say condiments free.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Now KFC tried to.
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: Did they try to charge for condiments or did they say that it no longer offer condiments?
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: But we serious about catch up on Muslim pepper in this country.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: So that being okay with, but price it is going to be very difficult for people to sustain a protest on price for KFC.
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: Kfc could hold out and they go, wait, and they go there, I mean and, and it's likely to get back to normal.
• 45:05
  Speaker 2: You want to tell you when it will get back to normal?
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: They have an exam coming up where the reward for the exam, at least in my time, used to be you know me, let me carry them KFC and let them enjoy their self and eat something.
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: Now it seems to be that people have, you know, I mean people having having, so they go head back to to the TGI Fridays instead of KFC.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: What I think would have led to the, the way this protest looking come, or this boycott looking compared to the boycotts that we've seen before, because we've seen KFC increased price, people sitting are gonna buy and then within days it goes back.
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: Now we're taking up more than a few days.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: This is what I feel is leading to this boycott and it's not to with price.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Married article for you.
• 45:54
  Speaker 2: Prestige holdings distances itself from tasteless social media posts.
• 45:56
  Speaker 2: Alex Mutin, not affiliated with company.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: It's easy to be in our family, right, it is to be a part of our family and again ousted because you're going on, your talk loose and the family basically had to come out and make a stay after the runs, called you in the background and tell a boy, what are you doing?
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: You know what went on with you.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Now they had to come and tell you listen, we gonna make a statement here saying we a hand, nothing to do with you.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: So you had to pat down a hundred percent.
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: Prestige holdings has distanced itself from a social media post by your user bearing a surname similar to its chairman, which similar to its chairman who write this article.
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: The man name is Muti and the chairman name is Muti.
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: Anyway, prestige holdings are distance itself from social media post me, a user bearing a surname similar to its chairman, which sort of disparage roti and roti vendors and doubles vendors while defending the recent increase in prices at KFC.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: The post, which has shared numerous, which was shared numerous times on social media, attracted responses from vocal businessman in China, schmell and economists, dr Indira's, saggy one, sage one, I hope, a product that somewhere in the close to right prestige holdings, however, a student statement to clear it, to clear a animator, clear the animator prestige holdings is aware of negative, of a recent negative so post on social media coming from a profile bearing the name Alex Muti.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: This profile is in no way affiliated with prestige holdings and the remarks being posted on it and not reflective of prestige holdings or its values.
• 47:30
  Speaker 2: We can confirm that no one being that name is involved.
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: No one being that name is involved in the management or ownership of KFC of prestige holdings.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Sorry, what cause the post to Ghana attention is that people sort of link the user to the chairman of prestige holdings, christian muti.
• 47:49
  Speaker 2: The muti family, like prestige holdings, respects and celebrates the efforts of all individuals to generate a better life for themselves and their families.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: It stated the entrepreneurial spirit is foundations stone upon which all companies in prestige holdings operate.
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: We believe the principles are competition and respect for all individuals and businesses within our country.
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: The sentiments also reflected the reflect the view held by our chairman, mr Christian muti, and the wider family.
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: According to the press release, prestige holdings that it remains singularly focused on to even its customers and communities to the best of its ability.
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: We thank you for your continued support of our restaurant and our people.
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: So, coinciding with the increase in price, what we saw was a huge social media uproar and bro, haha and blowback.
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: That said, kfc improves the price again and people was upset by that.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Right, that is quite normal.
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Every single time we hear about a price increase in KFC or any market leader with a big name like KFC and a name that's so easy to call because it's so well marketed, there's typically going to be a social media uproar.
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: Even before social media, there was public uproar on the street corners and barbershops and hairdress in place when KFC increased the price from $11 for a snapbox right to 15.
• 49:13
  Speaker 2: We don't we just we don't talk about that any block before.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Social media is a social issue when our most convenient fast food restaurant raises their price, but what typically happens is the social media, the social issue rises up and it fall right down.
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: I can see Jason Williams interview now fella and he said I know, with that my granny, past your pace and notice that, if I let me interview, never say cook that.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: He say just buy that from our fellow who's selling.
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: So it's not like it's not a deal, boycott KFC and he stopped buying food.
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: He just buy it from somebody else, which is our option.
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: I think that happened all right and um, more and more people will say that.
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: People will say the cook home.
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: People will say the Fed up a KFC anyway and they don't buy that.
• 49:55
  Speaker 2: And then sales will go back to a normal level within by the next month and long weekend, public holiday, whichever one come first sales will go back to normal and they will be reporting again hundreds of millions of dollars because remember, that would price be it.
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: Price haven't gone up several times before, during and after COVID.
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: They're still reporting in 2023 the highest levels of revenue they ever had 1.3 billion and the highest levels of profit that they ever had 180 something million is what they say.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Well, what do you worry for years?
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: So the issue for me here is not so much the price increase that would have come and died on is rarely the statement that Alex Mute make Notice.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: They never say he's not part of the family.
• 50:38
  Speaker 2: They say he's not part of the ownership or management.
• 50:43
  Speaker 2: But Alex Mute, in response to this bruhaha on social media about how to price this and price that and who to think, and kfc, they're working on the thing and then 1% and you know people start to take off on social media and I would think that the Christian Mute's of this will was just gonna ignore that because they've seen this many, many times before.
• 51:02
  Speaker 2: They will also probably just monitor how much the sales fall off within the period of the announcement, which they would have catered for in their meetings.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: When they say, alright, we're going to announce this, they probably time very carefully when they're going to make that announcement.
• 51:18
  Speaker 2: They know what their sales cycle is on a monthly basis already.
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: They know mountain real kfc sell and real this and real tgi and them thing and about the second week and a month and a half time it is slow down when nobody announced the money and thing.
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: I could guarantee you that if you go back and track when kfc makes their announcement about increasing prices, it is closer to a mid month than it is to a month and they must say it's time the mid month and then time the fortnight cycle and say, well, this is times they would have been not buying much anyway and we get them enough time to ventilate this issue and talk about it and be upset on them thing, because we understand we like customers on things and we understand they could be upset.
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: But we also understand that when the 25th hit and money in man pocket and men are the dongle-longle, they's going to buy kfc, right?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Let me read this statement from Alex Mutefe At least kfc invests in infrastructure.
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: The doubles man set up a $200 MDF board box with ice cream bucket and channel under a tent next to a dirty drain and they saves money for bottle of punching.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: The way how you have millionaire doubles man and not a single one has actually rented a structure yes, man, alex or invested their profits into upgrading their business.
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: Same with roti Rotis.
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: Same nonsense.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: Same with roti Spanish common start food business and have brand new building and roti sellers haven't painted the building in 30 years, selling food out of a rat hole, I think.
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: From my little humble opinion.
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: I feel like, if this is the reason for the protests, are not the price to increase, go all mellop into one right, but we always head to the still issues.
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: You see, that statement is our problem, because when you talk about doubles and roti attacking a particular community who, based on population statistics alone, might be responsible for about 50% of your sales, close to 50%, I wonder if the family have a court martial system.
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: I do have some thoughts about doubles men and roti shops that I feel nowhere near alignment with the people.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: This statement is offensive from several angles.
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: You want to bring race into it until there is racism or classism.
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: Whatever you want to say about that, it is uncouth, it is unwise.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: You can just let that guy down.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: Man would be eaten back.
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: They fall by now.
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: Everybody would be good.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: It's like.
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: Why make a statement like this?
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: Especially when you have to make this statement and use disparaging remarks about particular groups of people who help build a society, who do a lot of work to help build a society Me and so sure about the tax dollars part of the society, but certainly reinvestment in the community and creating a lot of it.
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: You know my philosophy about business, so I do have some thoughts about doubles men and roti men, but not the kind of thoughts that would get me in any kind of trouble, like your boy, alex Mute.
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: But my long and with long winded and winding theory about KFC and the boycott is that boycott have way more to do with, as they say, a tasteless social media comments.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: I like.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: I like word tasteless, tasteless social media comments rather than price increases.
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: I do, however, believe.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I do, however believe that it is not going to be long before SCA right and people start to carry the children back there and them children when they see the TGI.
• 55:36
  Speaker 2: And I wonder if it's common knowledge of the businesses that they own other than KFC People boycotting KFC but still buying Subway or boycotting KFC and still going by TGI and them things.
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: But when the hammer fall and there's more I think I can't remember the figures actually tell me how much are 1000 people doing SCA this year and the SCA fall just around the time.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: Public servants get paid with the biggest employer and them things are starting to wonder whether or not the boycott days will be over.
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: Do we have this stamina based on how we offended we are, how offended we are now?
• 56:16
  Speaker 2: Do we have this stamina to go a little further into it and stay away from the business and force them to cause?
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: I'm not sure what we want out of the boycott.
• 56:27
  Speaker 2: If you make remarks that the sparigen are tasteless, is it that we take any disparaging remarks?
• 56:32
  Speaker 2: And if we back the $10 off, we good with it and we cool.
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: Or is it that we boycott in KFC because we taking it that this is the stance of the family?
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: This is not much different from the original 1% statement.
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: That get people in the uproar the first time and it would have take some time for people to get.
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: I mean, we still say 1% a lot at least me but it took some time for us to get back to the point where we not deeply offended by the 1% community and everything they had to say, as Alex Mute carrying us right back there.
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: But I don't know, I really come to play some Johnny King.
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: So let me play a Johnny King for you again.
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: I don't know why I end up in a deep dive in Johnny King this week, but this particular song is one.
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: As I mentioned the SES students and I wanna get into Terence Yeltsin comments on this KFC thing too, but before that I want to tell you the SES students, as we just sat about 2 weeks away from SES, I as a man remember, like yesterday, when I was going to do SES and I was in preparation mode for SES and a common entrance then and it's a little bit of a surreal period for me.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Here I see it, I live in it, I live me.
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: A old boy now who in preparation mode for SES and he seen him studying and doing the work and putting in his hours and going to bed late because he sat up studying and he going to bed, he waking up early and going to school and he putting in his hours and getting results.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: So I just wanted to play a little Johnny King for all the youth who would be in SES mode and let them know that wherever it is.
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: Now we have 2 weeks to make that final push.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: In SES.
• 58:39
  Speaker 1: Man must stand in.
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: He can never run away.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: Time to stop the crying.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: Try a little, trying To achieve it the only way.
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: That's why I understand.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Don't even do it for all the and get you something.
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: You gotta try and try and do what you're doing Until you see the light.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Don't let it out to the sky.
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: Don't cry, you've got to try.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: Little progress For so much dedication, plenty, hard work and grind In your conquest.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: You have got to understand.
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: Keep you golden in your mind.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Go for all over.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Let your limits be the sky.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Go to conquer.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: And you want to make a try.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: You must have a strong win If you're climbing up the hill or stay in the gutter and die.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: That's why I understand.
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: Don't even do it for all the and get you something.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: You gotta try and try and do what you're doing Until you see the light.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: Don't let it out to the sky.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: You've got to try.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: When you're losing, don't be sorry for yourself.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Never feel without hope.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: Try for something.
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: Put your worries on the shell.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: Band you belly and poke Women.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: Careful In the midst of suffering, but be careful.
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: You're selfish and stepping For your bread and butter.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: You must be a martyr.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: Always be determined to win.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: You just stand up, even though you're falling, and get you something.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 1: You gotta try and try and do what you're doing Until you see the light.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: Don't let it out to the sky.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: You've got to try.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: Don't let failure Brush it life and pull it down.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: Don't be called advice yet.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Let it be your incentive to carry on Forward and get your share.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: If you drown me and it tight against me, keep on swimming.
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: It's the only thing to do.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Save your survival.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Don't give up on it at all.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: You must be there and can see what you do.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: That's why you must stand up, even though you're falling, and get you something.
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 1: You gotta try and try and do what you're doing Until you see the light.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Don't let it out to the sky.
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: You've got to try.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: And better call for boycotts, right?
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: A better call to stay away from the KFCs and the subways of this world, and so on.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: Surprisingly, he came from Doctor.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Is that doctor, the great Terrence DeAlzig he's telling minister of health, or is that just a COVID thing?
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: Terrence DeAlzig has been On a little bit of a drive.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: Should I say a drive?
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: They say some local fast food companies Continue to report his record historic profits.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: Health minister Terrence DeAlzig Is now condemning their products.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: But while the minister has spoken out about the dangers of fast food Before this time he is naming and shaming Some of the brands for the role they play In worsening people's health.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: So people equal out some brand names and things and I mean I had a little wiser than to call the name.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: He could call the name and say he's salary guaranteed.
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: He could like in government salary, that's money guaranteed, and all like me.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: So comment a big frame to get more money last week.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: So he's alright with that concern.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: I will not call any names, but I will say that what I did see with the In a lot of the comments about KFC A broadening discussion from KFC as well Is the unhealthy eating habits that Trindad and Tobago-Dians have.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 2: And you know, funny enough, this was one of the things that the anti-vax people, or the people who was not happy With the approach to management of COVID, was talking about in the first place.
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 2: They were saying why not also push the discussion about being healthier, eating healthier, exercising more, making sure that we keep ourselves in our position, or away from our position, where we Going into things with comorbidities?
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 2: So if he was just taking a little walk every day, eat a less fast food, cut down on the grease, cut down on the sugar, cut down on the salt and the normal day when before anything goes wrong, then we could be in a position where we're healthier and we could deal with any pandemic or at least give ourselves the best chance To deal with it, rather than just defaulting to drugs.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: So it's like you use drugs right through drugs Any form of flour and sugar and salt and all these kinds of things and forcing us now To have to use drugs when they have some kind of issue going on.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: So I agree with Terence the Helsing steak.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 2: I myself I don't know how all they do it, but I try to change my ways, my dirty ways of eating a whole lot of fast food and trying not to make exactly that fast food king Myself.
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: I ain't doing such a great job Because, you see, when I'm home here and this man Is having to say he hungry, the first thing I have to be studying is to just what's up these people and bring things for me.
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: But help is on the way, because I did see Her article.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: There's something I've following While in the international news space, or international pop culture, right, how much are they paying attention to Osempic?
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: Anybody ever hear the word osempic Before, know what osempic is?
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: Or anybody know If that being widely used here or not?
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: Is that just me?
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: Is it just a foreign thing?
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: But I'm seeing more and more the idea of osempic.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: I saw an article in the article.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: The article A little old, right from last year, but if you don't know, osempic apparently is a treatment that was used For people who would have had diabetes, if I remember right, the first time I heard about it.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: And we reach a point now, at least in the states, where, because one of the side effects of it was apparently Appetite control and, by extension, weight loss, right, so you see a lot of stars using osempic, or hearing about a lot of stars who had used osempic and basically massive weight loss.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Apparently, osempic was part of the thing.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: It's one of the side effects you eat less, you feel for less things and you lose your weight.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: And, of course, celebrities historically have not been Honest with how they have maintained their figure right.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: If you remember, back in the day, surgery used to be a hidden thing.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: People fixed their body and fixed their face and all these kind of things.
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: Then they end up being people to which me and you aspire and feel like we could walk around Savannah and get them kind of body with them bodies well structured and put together like Lego.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: You know, I mean them is basically transformers.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: And this is another one of them cases because I see Oprah Winfrey now having to or Pulling back on her Association with weight watchers.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Remember she was one of the people who drive weight washers went to be one of the biggest Weight-type of people they had was quality weight type of people.
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: Whoever weight people, they weight company Me know what they supposed to call that.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: No, but she was one of their owners and one of the biggest advocates for weight Watchers and eating and portion control and all these different things come to find out, oprah.
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 2: No, zempic, it's heavy injection over taking and losing weight right?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: So, as it has always been, the celebrities don't have all this.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Tell us the truth, as the wait has happened, but I've did find our article here and I'm going to read it from this summary expressed from last year was zempic and eating disorders why experts are raising concerns.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: Injectable prescription medications like was zempic and we go V In the news for the ability to help people lose weight.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: Some experts are raising concerns that the increased spotlight on these medications could contribute to eating disorders.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: Many people regain much of the weight they've lost after they stop using these medications, which can also affect, which are also lead to this ordered eating and increased health risks.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: So Maglietude, better known by the brand names where gov and ozempic, has been making headlines over the last several months for the medical Medications abilities to help people lose weight.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 2: Only where gov is our FDA, approved for weight loss, though many people, including celebrities and online influencers, have been taking ozempic off label for weight loss too.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: In fact, comedian chance Chelsea Handler says the doctor prescribed Was zempic in the in case you wanted to lose five pounds, and Elon Musk credited where gov for helping him lose weight.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Some experts say that the conversation has its benefits.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: After all, trials, including a double blind one in 2021.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 2: Then he indicated I've taken 2.4 milligrams of semaglietude once per week.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: Combined with lifestyle changes, can help people lose weight.
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Is important to discuss some of these medications that might aid in weight loss and how these medications are used.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: Dr Jenner Hemowits, phd, licensed psychologists at stonybrook medicine and director bariatric and weight loss psychology, those these eyes get frightened.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 2: Every time I see a big one come around, get frightened like hell.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: I don't understand why I'd be going through here.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: No, these decisions can hopefully, hopefully address misinformation and show these drugs are prescribed thoughtfully as medical indicates.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: Selling discussion has become low-hanging fruit.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: At the Oscars on March 12th, really broadcast you all right, so you know you get a point right.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: So the idea is that a lot of a lot of celebrities using us and pick and as, as we typically do in Trinidad, if.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: If they bring out a new car in his state, expect to see the car down here.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: If they bring out a new TV show, expect it to be done.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: So everything that happens everywhere.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: You tend to find that Trinidad is just pick it up and I've seen over the years, like just following Instagram pages where I Bebe L's and surgery, and like Perception on a mummy makeover those things also stand to become one more popular Interdent to be great.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: I mean I don't, like I say, last week asked me how.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: You know, sir, people don't always tell you what.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: I went on a do this and I went on a do that, but some people, you see the, I mean it's just looking different from everybody else and as a man who cares, you know, I mean I no concern of mine whether you guys, any gym or you guys and I'm in Venezuela, oh, columbia, it doesn't matter to me.
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: And as we have more Venezuelan immigrants living here who it seems to be more of a way alive or at least more accessible or affordable there, you, you see in more or more of it in our society and I guess when you're looking for a mate, there's a competitive game and when you're looking for a mate, you know I mean this is, this is, this is a jungle out there.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: So if everybody, if everybody done up, you might feel a little more pressure to be done up, and if everybody's small and people like small thing, you might feel a little more pressure.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: So to start to become a small thing yourself and it's easy, I could tell you, I try to become a small thing for 40 years.
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: No, I try to become a small thing, it's a working Is the amount of doubles and roti and, according to Alex Moote, all these little too much, a MDF board with her doubles are eaten over the years.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 2: That I mean, and I can't.
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 2: I can't all down at all.
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: So I Listen.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 2: I would love to hear everybody thoughts on this, like how you all feel about this.
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: Everybody, should I say everybody, a lot of us has have these same struggles with weights and things, not just me, right?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: And you know what's funny about it when, when I see pictures of myself from 10 years ago, I take in that noise like what I wish I could get back to that size.
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: No, and, but he's thinking about it is like 10 years ago, when I was that size, I was real unhappy with my size.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 2: I said, well, I'm a little bigger to do some weight.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 2: I'm boy.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: Listen them, them, beef pie and all these kind of things.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: These things is be calling me, you know, cheese pie, a two cheese and a beef.
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: You know me, them things, something calling me.
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 2: So can I just eat two cheese and a beef and get was mpick and all done?
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: I want to let all you know to that, if only see me out down fast.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 2: It's for podcast purposes.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: No, sometimes when I talk about things, yes, one to do further research and say, you know, I mean I like to come here informed and to tell you people what has happened.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: So, who knows, one day might come here and you see me looking small.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: They seem a petite.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 2: I will be wearing the same clothes.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: No, so when you see these clothes, observe them good, watch how these clothes fitting and maybe you could even go back to he, could go back to our old episode and see where this really went on with that jersey and how it fit and how tight it was, and then can't take and see how it fit in now.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: If only filming all dog I see, um, uh, who was it?
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: But there was one celebrity I was watching the other day where van leaton.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Well, you know van leaton, the other name van leaton, who used to be on TMC.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 2: You would know him as the black fella from TMC, not the raster one, the low hair one, but they end up fine him right.
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 2: Or the pathways but he was big and he all down and then he get big again and he all down again.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: And I tell I said watching them doing all boxing and taking TV and I go I'm sorry about boxing, class box.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: What is a boxer was them pick.
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 2: So them and them and come in here.
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 2: I Did see a, also a call from Tickle to bands came pick us to spend way too much time, and KFC right, so I will blow past that.
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: I do want to talk about these violent lyrics that are talking about banning.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 2: So in the carry come heads of government meeting recently, the, it seems to be a big part of the discussion in chogum the idea of banning violent lyrics or doing something about the violent lyrics that we had right.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: So we saw in the past Several, if you want to call it, trini bad or local dance, all original dance, all artists being banned from different islands in the country saying listen, oh, they can only care, perform that here because the lyrics not edifying and it Promoting and encouraging violence and them kind of things.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: And I want to revisit that right, because I on record here saying that I Don't think there's much value in banning violent lyrics or anything like that I do feel like an artist Doesn't should reflect what the society has.
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: So unless the society fixing, you can't blame the artist for the level of violence.
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: No, I am one to talk about a lot of things and take some heavy stances on things.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I'm also want to change my mind over time and when more information come, I am no problem going back on what I said back in the day.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: So, uh, let me let me just read real quick.
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 2: This is from TV six.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: Right, it says condemn and restrict violent lyrics, but no ban.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: The Prime Minister says that lyrics that promote violence ought to be condemned.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: However, dr Kidrowley said to ban something is to simply make it more attractive to those who want to use it, and a ban will not be Effective at its time of social media.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: But the Prime Minister did use the word restrict with regard to public spaces and airwaves.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: This after president, a guy I know called on his fellow carry-com leaders to take the matter of violence and vulgar lyrics seriously.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: So the finale and anything you finally say, I find him right.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: Right, let me just put that on record, right?
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: You see, if an alley had me a motley, anything them say I agree with off the bat before they say it.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 2: I agree, right, but if I only was saying that the music that must represent the region is the lyrics of Bob Marley and so on and these kinds of, I just want us to remember that somebody, music that Bob Marley was singing, was music of rebellion and so on.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 2: So I don't know how well received that was any day, and we have a.
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: We have a way that people are Immortalized differently from how we treat them when they live in, right?
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: So I'm not sure I was not live in that era, but, um, there's a A possibility that the reverence that we have for Bob Marley today is not the same reverence that we had when he was alive.
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 2: You get me sometimes, sometimes when you die young, martyrdom is a hell of a thing and all of a sudden you remember that's the, this great Philosopher and this promoter of love and so on.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: When, in fact, when he was here, people didn't like where he was singing and they find your anti-disant, anti-dive.
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 2: Anyway, I understand where Ufan Ali is coming from and on the, on the topic of our local dance hall and what it does, right, I can, as always, say I don't let these youths sing what they sing, and, and I said the monster freedom of expression for artists and so on and All I usually say as well, I went out this weekend.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: Right, I'll come out my house a little bit.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: You know me stretch my legs and I went a little spot named a valour and, as I say, once you're liming with Ian Allen is your good to go.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 2: Things is good, you know.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 2: I mean you're having a great time once Ian Allen is on his seat, right.
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 2: So I went to the ball.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 2: I mean, I've always a club.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: I only used to see a ball on Food drop as an option to buy food.
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 2: But apparently, you know, if the restaurant business isn't going so good, one of these things you could do is fattening night, right.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: So we tried to go La Penca, which is my little spot.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 2: La Penca, so much online, and so my people trying to go in.
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: We say, alright, you can fall in the Avala.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: Well, I would say is a how could I describe the crowd?
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: It's a rough neck crowd.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: Is a good boy crowd?
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 2: I could put it like that is a good boy crowd.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: This is a crowd of people who the parents are money by son.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the parents have a little money.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: Them working good jobs.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 2: Good luck up in the class.
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: People as he's looking, boy plumber, see my boy plumber in the plumber only hunt plumber Plumber was an onion, right, I was an onion.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 2: But people having a time insider, but I could tell it is right, young and old.
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: I see some kind of old man, it's something young things Like.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: That's a spot.
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 2: If you're old and young, thing go over, alright.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 2: If you're looking, no plumber.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: But when them gangsta music and them come on, I want to tell you that these youths inside Singing them thing, word for word, they know every lyric inside there, right, and I always say that you know I mean we.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 2: But I hear people make that argument as well that Well, for some people city music we grew up on wasn't as violent as this.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 2: I don't agree with that at all.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 2: I think the music we grew up on was equally violent, if not more violent in some cases.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: Go, I think the music we listen to was Equally vulgar.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: Now don't want to say equally vulgar, because then people like I'll go back and listen the last week episode and hear what equally vulgar mean.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: When I say equally vulgar, using vulgar and violent as a threshold, because society usually has some things they could accept, but the threshold is usually pushed.
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: So you cannot really compare one era to the next.
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: Because when you listen to what we listen to Back then they listen to the Bounticular and the Madcobra and the Ninja man and these fellas and the Mercy lesson them back then.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 2: Compared to what they're singing now, it is some team right, but it only song in team because you compare in, you're comparing it from then to now, you're comparing your old, 40 year old years to where I was here and back then.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: The point is it's not so much comparison of time to time is comparison of what the threshold was back then.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 2: When we were in the 90s, the threshold for what was considered vulgar was lower than it is now, which is normal.
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 2: That's happened.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: It will be even worse, if you want to say worse, when, 20 years from now, when we are grand journey, will be shocked at what I'm wearing and what listening to and everything right.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: The Point is if the threshold is here and you go past the threshold, then you are extremely, extremely vulgar anytime.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 2: That you know extremely violent and is the same with you.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: It's now.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 2: It comes across as extremely vulgar and violent because as you roll, you says push the boundary.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: You to rebellious.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 2: That's what.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: That's what's happened.
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: That is what is it needs to happen for society to evolve, right, where they like it or not.
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 2: But so I Don't see the music we was listening to is any different.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 2: I Listen to all the Bounticular bad man kill for fun and I never feel to kill for fun and thing.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 2: But I could say it is pomena energy and a spirit.
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 2: Right, it is pomena kind of energy and a spirit.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: Well, why, vice-closest you come to killing eyes come as close, which is real far, but I come close to that when I drive.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: No bad man kill for fun, no, perplex me gone.
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: It have a energy and a spirit and I will admit that.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: And if your Other influences are not great in life, right, like I had influences of parents on both sides of my family, had influences of several aunts and uncles.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 2: I had influences as several cousins and you know I mean eyes.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: A man was never of that.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 2: I was never gonna go down that road.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: I was never gonna be at no badness from the time, is it?
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: You know, when you're on the block, right, I like to lie on the block.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to.
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 2: I want to be a part of the.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: I just want to lie with my friends, with you, right, but when the block start to get hot and badness start to come, or certain man start to come with certain energy, eyes get just as frightened as eyes get when I see big words on the screen in front of me, I get frightened, I want to go home.
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: I don't like suit you kind of trouble, right, but that In me because of several factors like plenty to do with upbringing and community and all that now where the society, not everybody have them same opportunities or everybody have the same upbringing or the same Pears that I would have had.
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 2: Right, I also had peers.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 2: I always remember following Carlos.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: It was a Carlos, right, carlos and man grew up in St James wasa, older fellow than me and thing, and Carlos was To me, right, I watching Carlos as a I don't want to say Carlos are no gangster, but I watching Carlos as a man who could defend it and who afraid nobody and them kind of thing, you know.
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 2: I mean I always remember Carlos used to run me home all the time.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 2: Carlos used to say boy, go man, well, number one, I care, I'm a Fatima uniform, right, I used to get mad Carlos say boy, go man, change that uniform.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: If you want to come back out, you can come back over.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Go man, take.
• 1:21:53
  Speaker 2: And then he would also, even if I'm not in uniform and I and no one know that back in the days when certain men are wrong or certain things happen that I would have never know because I was never parted, carlos used to rough me up.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 2: Carlos say go home, go home.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: You know you can't lie me, I know mother them, go home.
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 2: And I just Maybe a couple years ago I went to carry my car to wash and Carlos come Talking to man.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: It was so weird because you know, see, talking like he's saying nothing, just a Cory boy, cory boy, I glad to see you, boy, cory boy.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: I said my colors, I so glad to see Carlos.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Then too, and one of the things he's saying to take my while to understand and I'll connect the dots.
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: Carlos was saying boy, he was always a good lewton, he was always a good youth, he's a, basically saying he's a good boy, it's not no bad boy, although I find I was badder to be telling the truth, I badness him but he's saying he's a good boy and, and what he was saying any moment is I'm glad to see you stick along that part of being good and you're doing good and you know I mean you could see you're doing better, you're living on your own, your marriottia child.
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, whatever he's put together a success in his mind and I had to tell him it took my while to put together what you're saying and I was like and then it kind of thing, and I was like Carlos, well, boy, thanks for always watching out for me, because what he does he protect me from certain things only block, block of its own energy, my mother working, my father down south, so nobody in know what I do when I go on.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: But, carlos, come like a next parent in a way, or elder brother or bigger cousin or og.
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: You used to say right, who telling me nah, you do enough for you, though Don't slip into that.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, too much opportunity, too much things going for you.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 2: Forget that though.
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 2: I got cousin named danger.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: I want to be wrong danger.
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: He's like nah, you, you, you go your own way.
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 2: Don't forget that, what you doing now.
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 2: I remember liming up in Bellevue by Colonel Carlos call him on one side, we're doing a payable.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: I say, nah, I'm a friend and thing when he watches a man going fatty man thing and he'll love that.
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 2: So it's like I Wrap up in cotton.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: You understand I I listen to badness and I want to hear all the badness in the world, because the badness I listen to for me is a fantasy.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 2: I listen to violence and and vulgar music and think as a fantasy in my mind is something that you know, it is like watching a, a shootout movie or a kick up and think I just, I just wait that bad and thinking, shoot any roll.
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 2: And there's a fantasy is not a reality for me.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 2: But the unfortunate situation we have here and why I had to take back my words on some of these things, is that Some of the youths know the, the badness and the thing is not the fantasy, it is their real life.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: I talk about both the artists and the.
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 2: I talk about producer and consumer, both who make any song and those who sing any song.
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 2: So while we in a valor and Ian Allen, I well, I should say that.
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 2: But you know I like fireman and you're feeling like any month, any point in time, with the badness music playing, you feel like you know I'm gonna bust to shut the ceiling.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 2: That would they kind of vibe about talking about.
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: But that is a different kind of energy, because the energy in there is fantasy, like, whereas the blocks and some of the hottest spots in the country when their music played, it is a reflection of what we just do yesterday or what we're going and do a boy tomorrow, or the life that we actually live in and where, where the, the community failing.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 2: Am I putting like that right?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: Because, boy, when I look back at it now, my community was huge.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: My community was huge.
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 2: I went the other day and I see father Gregory, huge part of my community, because Father Gregory see me as I, you to like to get trouble and like to make joke and like to talk in class and like I like the little thing.
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: But he also see, I don't know why he's seeing me up to today, why he's saying he's like you know, I'm gonna wrap some cotton around this boy and and and make sure that he good.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 2: So when it's time to repeat and I impasse more five subject and then we bring them back in Fatima, if it's not for he and not going to repeat the when, when, when we looking to get trouble and think he insulates me from the Ipohin, some more cotton.
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: He say, oh, let's go in study hall.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, they'll get in trouble.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 2: Come any priest library or they will stay there.
• 1:25:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I mean I get her up in cotton from so much I try to get is a complete stranger To me.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 2: He don't want to do none of that.
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 2: You know, son Carlos, a month to do none of that.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 2: We doing for me, that arresting son, I never forget my don't only my name, you know.
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 2: But Thing happened with men and compliment and I frightened, but they had a play brave right, I, walking from Fatima and then walking past compliment, who went home, was always a risk, right, that was, um, I could, I get that fast.
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: My mother, my father, my cousins, nobody, not a wrong, you know.
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 2: But something happened.
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: A man telling me something, rest of my coming and say naughty, naughty leg.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I mean so when you, when you, when you, wrapped up and insulated and cotton like that, you listen to the badness as I escape, you know, I mean you listen to the to give your life some edginess and some rock star kind of qualities to your life and think that's an escape for you.
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: So what happens in areas of a part of society where they have no cotton at all.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 2: People, rather than wrapping in more cotton, the unwrapping the cotton from you, rather than pulling Well over your eye, the People net off your eyes such to show you a different kind of life, even Going as far as to fuel it by some drugs, was that I didn't.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: I had the fear in me and think, but I had no drugs.
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: I was completely sober growing up, as a youth, as a teenager, completely sober, not a back on alcohol, no kind of drugs.
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: So what happens in the parts of society now?
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: Well, we fail the youth and all the cotton rapper for them and all the world pull off of their eye and they see in the world for what it is.
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: You know, like Adam and Adam and the 80 apple remember that story.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: So the city will different, so to see very limited hope, and so their whole life become A couple hundred square meters, a few blocks and a shop down.
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: So that's their whole life and the whole prospects in life become.
• 1:27:43
  Speaker 2: If I could do this or commit this, I could do this thing and take this from somebody, or take somebody life or whatsoever the thing might be, and that become a reasonable discussion, because that is all you're wrong.
• 1:27:52
  Speaker 2: Then I had to say that maybe it's time to address what happened to the music and to do two things one time, because one of my criticisms of Patrick Manning back in the day was that Division 2020 was a good document when we was watching it in 2006.
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 2: 7 man them kind of time is a great document and it's something that we could follow.
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 2: But the issue is that it only in or it largely Addressed long-term development of the country.
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 2: But hunger is not a long-term problem.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Hungar to fix three, four times a day right, or for me, like six or me times a day to fix for me, right.
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 2: So it's the same thing here.
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 2: Yes, we had a fixed society where there's more elements.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: So if the parents or the household fail, we had to make the society in a way where the Carlos of the area could still rapper on a cotton, or the church or the school or whatsoever.
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 2: The other element, the music, the pan yard, the tassel, the who say what everything's are could Give you that cotton that the family not giving you if that making sense.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: But While we're fixing those elements to the society, there are plenty of you to have fallen by the wayside and the music seems to be at the core of it.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 2: So while the music for us in our valour is an escape from our life, we can be born and soxed and grow up on Capitan we want to feel alleged every now and again.
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: But after we feel the edginess we jump in and Porsche and BMW and Benz and things, that's all they see in Parkour, outside of our valour.
• 1:29:19
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: We go home soaking our tub with bath bombs and so on, heavy air conditions, we don't let them in the house and you drive past security and you say goodnight, alright, and you go home right and you insulate yourself so you get even more caught and wrong and then again the youth left there with their reality that is not a fantasy and they don't have enough fantasies to get away from that idol, to dream or to have ambitions to get away from it.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 2: Then we have an issue in the society, especially when, as I say, it's both producer and consumer, because I've seen some on CNC3 here.
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 2: So when I say producer and consumer, the men who make the music as well as those who listen to the music, have an issue because CNC3, saying here local record artists, appeared before the North High Court yesterday after he was arrested and charged under the anti-gang act.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 2: I don't want to be oblivious or be naive to say that everybody, the police, pick up wrong, and I don't want to be preemptive and say that if a man charged with something, that don't mean he guilty of the thing.
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 2: But he's starting to see more and more where trini bad artists are being fingered or accused or even rumored to be involved in nefarious activity.
• 1:30:43
  Speaker 2: You're seeing people who involve in the music business, like Sultima Guy from Premiere Studios, who talks about this kind of thing a lot, saying that these artists not making the kind of money of the music that their lifestyle reflected.
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  Speaker 2: So let me read from Ronda Dallard right Metzbos.
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  Speaker 2: Joseph Oliveira appeared before magistrate Margaret Sookraj Goswami in the North High Court on Monday, charged under the anti-gang act for being a member of a gang.
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  Speaker 2: He has granted 40,000 bail or charity to turn on.
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  Speaker 2: Tobago Police Service said in a media release that the charges follow extensive investigations where the SIU gang enforcement team that focus primarily on videos posted on social media groups promoting gang violence and gang culture.
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  Speaker 2: Commissioner Police Ula Christopher Harewood said this case underscores our unwavering commitment to address and combat the promotion of gang-related activities, particularly through influential figures in the entertainment industry.
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  Speaker 2: The lure of gangs is pervasive, as gang culture is portrayed as glamorous and the in thing, while we know otherwise.
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  Speaker 2: Gang life is a direct pathway to poverty, prison and an early grave as young men and mere pawns were easily replaced.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so that is true, right, intellectually and theoretically, gang life is a pathway to prison and poverty and all those things.
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 2: But we had to also admit that gang life is a pathway to enormous wealth too that the average working person cannot achieve in their lifetime or probably will not achieve in their lifetime.
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  Speaker 2: I like to hear people talk about these things because I wanted to add up the minimum wage and then put the minimum wage man to work 10 job a day at 8 hours a day and see how much money he carry.
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  Speaker 2: No mountain Versus.
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  Speaker 2: If you decide to girl thing and girl link and sell a little thing here, make a little move and bust these people making multiples.
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  Speaker 2: This is what I saw last week.
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  Speaker 2: You have a commissioner police making 30,000 dollars, meeting with criminals who making 30,000 dollars any day.
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  Speaker 2: Is she taking any month to make that?
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  Speaker 2: So we must tell them that listen.
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  Speaker 2: Poverty and prison, and, yes, you are a pawn.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: But we must also address the fact that you could live real sweet, even if it's for a short time, on this thing, and a part of the decision is if I had no cotton wrap wrong me and life done for me already.
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  Speaker 2: You don't find it's like a reasonable or you can see where it might be a reasonable decision to see if I could take this very small chance.
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  Speaker 2: The chance is small, right, I'm not stupid, I know the chance small too.
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  Speaker 2: But I could rise to the top of this thing, make enormous wealth and, even if I did that, dead.
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  Speaker 2: But now I might sure and never have to go through that in life again.
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  Speaker 2: What we gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: We gonna pretend like that is not an option or that is not a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: That's not a real thing.
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  Speaker 2: People do this all the time and I go Miami.
• 1:33:37
  Speaker 2: I go and I like many spots I go and I strap clubbing Miami every time we go in.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 2: These girls are fast cashers, are attractive thing and some of these girls are attractive people.
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  Speaker 2: But the TTPS will continue to work tirelessly to protect all citizens, especially young and vulnerable, who also fall victim to gang violence and culture.
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  Speaker 2: Without a stamp out from all communities, I don't think the police could do about gang violence.
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: Police are the reactive when a crime committed, or part of them is to make sure that their presence avoids the committing a crime.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: To me, if you are youth and the best option you see in a gang, then your options too limited and as a society we had a dresser.
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  Speaker 2: Where did it say Oliver's arrest?
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: Or Oliver Oliver's arrest came a month after police charged another 20 bad artists came and six with being a member of a gang and possession ammunition.
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  Speaker 2: He was granted $40,000 bail with a surety when he appeared before Magistrate Margaret Sukraj Goswami.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 2: So again, more and more, and there was a whole not what's not, it is a whole back and forth about the idea of swanee and what swanee doing and what he involved in and whether he live in here or he live in there or which party is and them types of things.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 2: So it's more of that.
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  Speaker 2: I'm glad that the top levels in the society, despite my own beliefs, seem to be willing to address the idea of the lyrics and how you be with us there.
• 1:35:18
  Speaker 2: I was really glad to hear Dr Hurley say you care about it, because at the band thing, I don't know how you're banning you from what they listen to on the phone or if you're going to make it where they care they can't download it or they can't play.
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 2: Where we going to China roots, where Apple Music and Spotify and YouTube now have limited things in trend and they can only show censored music and stuff.
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 2: I don't think the solution is to bury our heads in the sand, but he did say that, okay, we're going to stop it from public spaces and coming across the airwaves.
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 2: I don't think most of it could play on the airwaves now anyway, based on our laws.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 2: But if you stop it and you identify in public places, even if that does not directly do anything for the crime situation in terms of, okay, they look at no longer heads and radio mean less you to be involved in crime, I think it's important stance that chogam taking to say that, while you could sing this and we can stop only from listening to it and only go and find it on the phone or wherever it is, we as a government or as a people wanted this, associate ourselves from this level of thinking or this level of creativity that you have and these types of topics that you sing about.
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 2: I feel like it's not a bad stance to take.
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  Speaker 2: So it's one is one to continue to monitor.
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  Speaker 2: Listen again, I'll tell you because I go to work.
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  Speaker 2: I only go keep me here whole day because if I stay here any longer, crime could be an option.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 2: I could leave only a couple more Johnny Kings before I was supposed to reach out.
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 2: I tell only something, right, let me take a look behind the curtain.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you what I had to talk about today.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 2: I supposed to talk about Jack Warner, brooklyn, pisa, kamlo and the whole thing I had on that.
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 2: Dole Cheddy I also let them get released.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 2: Dole Cheddy Brothers got released from prison.
• 1:37:05
  Speaker 2: I was going to talk about the water racket and the shock that was associated with that.
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 2: I was getting there.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: Also Randy Glasgow creating a new Calypso competition for Chotni Soko artists.
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 2: I was supposed to go on to talk about all them things, but the way KFC setup and KFC being as important as it is in our society dies all the time over the episode.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 2: I'm going to hold that for now.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 2: Let me just get to some Johnny and get out of the way and we go come back together next week and talk about it.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 2: I thought I young man right.
• 1:37:45
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm holding on in order to stay around in a life therapy in balance, for it is nature's way.
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Until judgment day, weakness and got a chance, playing strong cause, I realized the price little one must pay to keep the big one in paradise this moment, and misery all day.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 1: Destruction of unique is nature's plan.
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 1: The humble and the weak must understand this.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 1: Day of each common is the devil's today.
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 1: They will bite the ground and the master play as long as you have, because and all your strings are not, you are not but living in heaven.
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: There's nothing for the poor or a day for more life.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: In a lion's den, hungry man shall aspire to keep the high man on top, to take him higher and higher.
• 1:39:50
  Speaker 1: The poor one must struggle till he drop.
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 1: Destruction of unique is nature's plan.
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: The humble and the weak must understand this.
• 1:40:04
  Speaker 1: Day of each common is the devil's today.
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 1: They will bite the ground and the master play.
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: Don't insult Africa.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: White men with gun power have the natives on that objection.
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 1: The black majority living poverty, all because they're strong.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 1: Black man, life is at over Nature.
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: Make him a slave.
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 1: South Africa is a nightmare for all.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: That's from where it would be quave.
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 1: Destruction of unique is nature's plan.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: The humble and the weak must understand this day of each common is the devil's.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 1: Today they will bite the ground and the master play.
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know how many times before here too, but this one I don't think I ever play.
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 1: All man strive to be happy.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: Will endless search for love go in search of peace and happiness?
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 1: The human mind wouldn't rest A constant nag within me, soul Demanding respect from the world.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 1: We get the urge in different forms, for luxury is the norm.
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 1: Money is very essential, but can't buy peace of mind at all.
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 1: We still like dogs without a bone If we have the money alone.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 1: Because appreciation plays on the human mind.
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 1: Everyone needs some happiness.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 1: Because importance give me a drive to live.
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 1: Everyone's on the hunt.
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 1: Everyone ought to give.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: Check out my slave.
• 1:43:33
  Speaker 1: The feeling has no barrier.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 1: Race and class doesn't matter.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Once you are live, you win the game.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: You do anything to get a good name.
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 1: Some wealthy men turn to suicide.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: They find food to feed the pride, the age and cripple in the ring, fight to be like a king.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 1: Children become delinquents For lack of love from the parents.
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 1: That's why appreciation is most important to man.
• 1:44:49
  Speaker 1: Appreciation plays on the human mind Everyone needs some happiness Because importance give me a drive to live Everyone's on the hunt.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: Everyone ought to give.
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 1: Check out my slave.
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: The wage is never a solution.
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 1: Nobody knows how to relation.
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: Employees will gladly draw their pay and do the job half the way.
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 1: When workman feeling unwanted, he working spirit is daunting, he comes on the job and pull a wrong Production going done.
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 1: Just make him feel significant.
• 1:46:07
  Speaker 1: You get him to do anything you want.
• 1:46:12
  Speaker 1: A part on the back is the best move For relations to improve.
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 1: Appreciation plays on the human mind.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: Everyone needs some happiness Because importance give me a drive to live.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 1: Everyone's on the hunt.
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: Everyone ought to give.
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 1: Check out my slave.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 1: Appreciation plays on the human mind.
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: Everyone ought to give Generously.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: Listen.
• 1:47:01
  Speaker 2: I show you my appreciation for all.
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: Thank you for coming out here every week.
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 2: Thank you for listening.
• 1:47:05
  Speaker 2: Thank you for tuning in on 125 times Norwegian places.
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: Enjoy the week.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 2: Have a safe and productive week.
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 2: I will see you all right back here next week.
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: Bye.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 1: Take a tip from the scripture Appreciate one another, share your love and make the mold A total peace in the world.
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 1: Appreciate shock plays on the human mind.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 1: Everyone needs some happiness Because importance give me a drive to live.
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: Everyone's on the hunt.
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 1: Everyone ought to give Generously.
• 1:48:17
  Speaker 1: Thank you for watching.