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- 0:14Speaker 1: Hey, Great Friday morning to you. Welcome into the radio show.
- 0:17Speaker 1: You know, Friday's usually start the weekend.
- 0:22Speaker 2: I think I sometimes think Thursday afternoon does.
- 0:27Speaker 3: But I get it.
- 0:29Speaker 1: If you standards, if you didn't get going already, today
- 0:33Speaker 1: might be a good day. It's got a reputation for that.
- 0:36Speaker 1: Friday's got a.
- 0:36Speaker 2: Good Reputation's got a great reputation right for.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Just letting you just unleash the hounds.
- 0:43Speaker 3: Yeah, let loose Sam.
- 0:44Speaker 1: Well, great morning to you, Ashley. Ryan is here. My
- 0:47Speaker 1: name is Chuck Powell, and we do have your headlines
- 0:50Speaker 1: for you, brought to you by Frostbrewed Course Light. Also
- 0:53Speaker 1: going to get into that conversation Adam Jude had with
- 0:57Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto, a lot of very interesting things that I'd
- 1:00Speaker 1: like to react to here this morning for you. And
- 1:02Speaker 1: don't forget we got live updates from the Open Championship
- 1:05Speaker 1: at twenty after the hour every single hour throughout the
- 1:09Speaker 1: course of the morning, so stay tuned for that right
- 1:13Speaker 1: here on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM. But
- 1:16Speaker 1: we're gonna lead with what we led with at six o'clock,
- 1:20Speaker 1: and we won't spend as much time on it as
- 1:22Speaker 1: we did at six o'clock, but you certainly are way
- 1:27Speaker 1: overdue and having an update on this front. You the
- 1:30Speaker 1: KJR listener, and we appreciate the Chuck and Buck listener.
- 1:34Speaker 1: And I don't know how much longer I'm going to
- 1:37Speaker 1: be asked to call it Chuck and Buck, because we
- 1:40Speaker 1: do have a statement to release today about Bucky being
- 1:45Speaker 1: absent for the last four months and it's going to continue.
- 1:51Speaker 1: So let me read the statement for you. This is
- 1:54Speaker 1: from Bucky and from KJR. My time away for medical
- 1:58Speaker 1: reasons gave me an opportunity to reflect on my priorities
- 2:01Speaker 1: and how I want to spend the next chapter of
- 2:03Speaker 1: my life. After a great deal of consideration, I've decided
- 2:06Speaker 1: not to return to the daily commitment of the morning show.
- 2:09Speaker 1: This was not an easy decision because I care deeply
- 2:12Speaker 1: about KJAR, the Morning Show, and the listeners who've been
- 2:15Speaker 1: part of this journey. I'm especially grateful to the station
- 2:18Speaker 1: for their support and willingness to work through this process
- 2:21Speaker 1: with me. We're continuing to explore ways I can remain
- 2:24Speaker 1: involved with KJR in a capacity that better fits my
- 2:27Speaker 1: life today, and I'm looking forward to seeing where those
- 2:30Speaker 1: conversations lead. So that was written by Bucky, I'm sure
- 2:35Speaker 1: approved by Kjar and we read the statement this morning
- 2:40Speaker 1: pretty much tells you what's going on going forward. I
- 2:44Speaker 1: would just say, if I could riff not nearly as
- 2:48Speaker 1: long as I did at six o'clock today on it,
- 2:50Speaker 1: I would just say that my plan is and it's
- 2:55Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I've kind of known this for a
- 2:58Speaker 1: little while, haven't been able to share some of this
- 3:00Speaker 1: with people for a little while. But I also think
- 3:04Speaker 1: that there is a way, and I think Bucky's on board,
- 3:07Speaker 1: and you know now it's now a matter of negotiation
- 3:10Speaker 1: that we can keep him part of the show in
- 3:12Speaker 1: some capacity. But obviously he's not going to be getting
- 3:16Speaker 1: up with us at that ripe old time at three
- 3:18Speaker 1: or four o'clock.
- 3:19Speaker 3: In the morning and call him just to make sure
- 3:22Speaker 3: we should.
- 3:23Speaker 1: Let's just keep doing that, Let's keep waking him up
- 3:26Speaker 1: so so he won't be part of the daily show anymore.
- 3:29Speaker 1: We will be changing the name there's That's not the
- 3:32Speaker 1: only change that's going to occur here in the near future.
- 3:38Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll be adding to the show in some capacity
- 3:41Speaker 1: here in the very near future. In those conversations obviously
- 3:44Speaker 1: are going to start in earnest. Well, they've already kind
- 3:47Speaker 1: of been held a few of them behind the scenes,
- 3:50Speaker 1: but certainly we're going to get down to the bottom
- 3:52Speaker 1: of that going forward. So not the only adjustment that
- 3:56Speaker 1: will be made to the morning show, but this was
- 3:59Speaker 1: the big announcement that we've all sort of been waiting
- 4:03Speaker 1: to find out. And so Bucky again no longer going
- 4:06Speaker 1: to be a part of the morning show as a fixture,
- 4:10Speaker 1: but certainly we're working to keep him part of the
- 4:12Speaker 1: morning show, part of KJR. And that's why you continue
- 4:14Speaker 1: your Hear's commercials, that's why we get to spend time
- 4:17Speaker 1: on Bucky today actually talking about Bucky and talking about
- 4:21Speaker 1: missing Bucky and being able to say best of luck
- 4:23Speaker 1: to Busy.
- 4:24Speaker 3: Yes, exactly.
- 4:25Speaker 2: And I admire Bucky for taking the time to figure
- 4:28Speaker 2: out what's best for him and his health and his family,
- 4:30Speaker 2: and I think I, you know, want nothing but the
- 4:33Speaker 2: best for all of them, for.
- 4:34Speaker 1: All of us, Yeah, for sure, for sure. So thank
- 4:37Speaker 1: you for your patience. I know that it's been a
- 4:39Speaker 1: little difficult being in the dark on this, not exactly
- 4:43Speaker 1: been easy for us either, but now you know, some
- 4:47Speaker 1: of you can say I was right. I knew he
- 4:50Speaker 1: wasn't coming back. That's important to you. But certainly we,
- 4:55Speaker 1: you know, wanted to exhaust every opportunity to bring him back,
- 4:58Speaker 1: and now that he's not, we can move forward. But
- 5:02Speaker 1: Bucky's healthy and just wants to keep it that way.
- 5:04Speaker 1: I think that's about as clear as I can make
- 5:07Speaker 1: it for you. All right, let's get to your headlines.
- 5:10Speaker 1: Brought to you by Frost Brewed Corps Light Open Championship
- 5:13Speaker 1: Day number two underway from Royal buck Dale. We're going
- 5:17Speaker 1: to get an update at twenty after for you. Also,
- 5:20Speaker 1: the World Cup Final will be held Sunday at noon
- 5:24Speaker 1: and it will be Argentina versus Spain, obviously for the
- 5:28Speaker 1: World Cup Championship this year. The Sounders returned to the
- 5:32Speaker 1: pitch last night at home against Portland and got fumped.
- 5:35Speaker 1: Five to one was the final score there. Jackson feltz,
- 5:39Speaker 1: I still think will join us today at eight thirty,
- 5:42Speaker 1: even though he probably trashed his house, couldn't have been
- 5:46Speaker 1: too happy about that. I doubt it. Storm back in
- 5:49Speaker 1: action tonight in Indiana against the Fever at four thirty.
- 5:54Speaker 1: Usually a game if you're a Storm fan, that you
- 5:57Speaker 1: circle on the calendar, and the Caitlin Clark ear they're
- 6:01Speaker 1: just not the magic She's just not the magical name
- 6:05Speaker 1: that she was was and they have not turned into
- 6:07Speaker 1: the powerhouse that some people thought they would, but nonetheless
- 6:11Speaker 1: still always an intriguing matchup there. Four point thirty is
- 6:14Speaker 1: the tip Lebron. We're still on Lebron Watch. I was wrong.
- 6:17Speaker 1: He did not make his decision yesterday and it sounds
- 6:19Speaker 1: like he is in zero hurry to do so. We
- 6:22Speaker 1: are eight days away from training camp, so on the
- 6:25Speaker 1: twenty seventh, which is a Monday, we will be broadcasting
- 6:29Speaker 1: live from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center as the World
- 6:31Speaker 1: champs begin defense of their title. Our Huskies one series
- 6:35Speaker 1: continues today at nine o'clock with Hugh Millen. We'll talk
- 6:37Speaker 1: about Demond Williams Junior in that conversation. And the Mariners
- 6:42Speaker 1: do finally return to the baseball field tonight at home
- 6:45Speaker 1: against the San Francisco Giants as their second half gets
- 6:48Speaker 1: underway and hopefully it will be more positive than the
- 6:52Speaker 1: first half was. And that's where we drop the information
- 6:57Speaker 1: that Adam Jude uncovered he got a little one on
- 7:00Speaker 1: one yesterday with Jerry Depoto, and a lot of things
- 7:03Speaker 1: to react to and Before we get into some of
- 7:05Speaker 1: the details, I just want to say I realized that
- 7:09Speaker 1: I sort of have this reputation as a depoto apologist.
- 7:15Speaker 1: I wouldn't even describe my relationship with Jerry as good.
- 7:18Speaker 1: I would describe my relationship with Jerry as hey, Chuck,
- 7:21Speaker 1: hi Jerry, and that's about it. I don't have some
- 7:25Speaker 1: pipeline to him. We don't exchange texts, I don't ever
- 7:28Speaker 1: call him, we've never hung out personally, none of that.
- 7:32Speaker 2: I have to reintroduce myself to him every time. So
- 7:34Speaker 2: if that tells you anything about my relationship.
- 7:37Speaker 1: But but if you hear me like defend him support
- 7:42Speaker 1: him more than others, is because I'm sorry. I really
- 7:47Speaker 1: think he's good at what he does, agreed, and he's
- 7:50Speaker 1: not perfect, And I think one of his biggest weaknesses
- 7:55Speaker 1: is his ability to relate via the Sometimes he has
- 8:01Speaker 1: said some really stupid, tactless things, and he should be
- 8:07Speaker 1: better at that because he's a splendid orator, like Eve's
- 8:10Speaker 1: a smart guy and he can really explain things well,
- 8:14Speaker 1: so there's really not any excuse for those moments where
- 8:16Speaker 1: he just blunders the explanation. And so he's had a
- 8:21Speaker 1: few of those moments. Also, I have been hyper critical
- 8:25Speaker 1: of Jerry over the years, for you've done a nice
- 8:28Speaker 1: job putting together a competitive team. Where are those championship moves?
- 8:33Speaker 1: And I rode him about that on these very airwaves
- 8:37Speaker 1: hard until last year at the trading deadline, those were
- 8:41Speaker 1: championship moves. Finally, those were moves saying we're about winning
- 8:45Speaker 1: the World Series. But I think he's done, along with
- 8:49Speaker 1: Justin and the entire organization, a fantastic job of giving
- 8:52Speaker 1: us a winning product that has a very bright future.
- 8:56Speaker 1: And not only do I believe that he has put
- 9:00Speaker 1: us and a championship window right now, We're going to
- 9:03Speaker 1: be in that championship window for a long time because
- 9:06Speaker 1: of the way that Jerry has structured things going forward.
- 9:09Speaker 1: So yes, I do think he's really good with some flaws,
- 9:14Speaker 1: all right. So that sort of explains my analysis of
- 9:18Speaker 1: Jerry Depoto over the years. But then I read this
- 9:22Speaker 1: Adam Jette article, this one on one, and I know,
- 9:26Speaker 1: I know, because there are there are a lot of
- 9:28Speaker 1: people out there listening right now that don't like him,
- 9:30Speaker 1: don't like him at all, don't want him here. And
- 9:34Speaker 1: so you read it and you think to yourself, oh
- 9:37Speaker 1: my gosh, I can't believe he said that. Oh good night, nurse.
- 9:43Speaker 1: This again. I read it, and I'm like, I agree
- 9:45Speaker 1: one hundred percent, Coli, I agree one hundred percent. And
- 9:50Speaker 1: so let's get into some of those things that I
- 9:53Speaker 1: agree with. First of all, Adam asked him about the
- 9:56Speaker 1: general theme to the conversation was we need to be better.
- 10:00Speaker 1: And when I say we, everyone needs to be better.
- 10:04Speaker 1: According to Jerry, in general, I think the pitching staff
- 10:06Speaker 1: continues to do the things that are required to play
- 10:08Speaker 1: into the postseason, and that makes us feel really confident
- 10:11Speaker 1: that eventually we will figure ourselves out. But you know,
- 10:14Speaker 1: the rest of our group, our decision making, our roster composition,
- 10:19Speaker 1: it all needs to be better than it's been. And
- 10:21Speaker 1: that's for me, that's for the staff, and that's for
- 10:23Speaker 1: the players to figure out. I agree with that. I mean,
- 10:27Speaker 1: I think he's throwing himself under the bus roster composition
- 10:29Speaker 1: wise a little bit because he doesn't want to exclude
- 10:33Speaker 1: himself and Justin from criticism. And certainly there's a little bit,
- 10:38Speaker 1: but the fact that he led with our decision making,
- 10:44Speaker 1: I think that says something. Am I reading into that ashe.
- 10:47Speaker 2: I don't think so, because I think that says, yeah,
- 10:51Speaker 2: we're aware, we're not. We don't have our head in
- 10:53Speaker 2: the sand. We don't think it's all going well. We
- 10:55Speaker 2: recognize everybody needs to be better. It's not just who's
- 10:59Speaker 2: actually going out on the field and performing, it's who's
- 11:02Speaker 2: in the dugout making decisions.
- 11:05Speaker 1: I think, man, you know, maybe I'm reading into it
- 11:08Speaker 1: because it fits one of my narratives if I am,
- 11:10Speaker 1: forgive me, But I do believe that part of that
- 11:13Speaker 1: is the decision making of the players running the bases,
- 11:16Speaker 1: some of their defensive brain farts that they've had. Yeah,
- 11:20Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't exclude the pitchers either. It certainly
- 11:23Speaker 1: doesn't exclude cal Raley and his pitch swing decisions that
- 11:27Speaker 1: he's made so far this year and Jpeves swing decisions
- 11:32Speaker 1: that he's made this year. But I think there's a
- 11:35Speaker 1: reason that he led with our decision making. I think
- 11:40Speaker 1: he's probably not happy with what Dan's done in the
- 11:44Speaker 1: first half either, And I'm reading into that, and he
- 11:46Speaker 1: certainly didn't say it out out front, but the fact
- 11:50Speaker 1: that he started with decision making kind of makes me
- 11:54Speaker 1: think that he's not too happy with some of the
- 11:56Speaker 1: managerial decisions that have been made so far in the
- 11:59Speaker 1: first half.
- 12:00Speaker 2: Well, and again he's not naive, so if he's bringing
- 12:03Speaker 2: up decision making, he's not thinking it's all these other things.
- 12:06Speaker 3: But Dan's doing a great job.
- 12:08Speaker 2: I mean right, it's so you've got to know that
- 12:10Speaker 2: at least part of it has to do with the
- 12:12Speaker 2: Dan Wilson aspect of it.
- 12:14Speaker 1: He also added to that we have generally not played
- 12:17Speaker 1: a clean game. We've not played the tight, buttoned up,
- 12:19Speaker 1: make the plays defense that we ordinarily do. We have
- 12:21Speaker 1: not been particularly good on the bases. We have just
- 12:24Speaker 1: not played like the Mariners play. And some of that
- 12:27Speaker 1: is pressing. And this gets back to that other thing like, okay,
- 12:31Speaker 1: all right, pressing, we want to do that pressing. I
- 12:35Speaker 1: want to say pressing and not caring, because sometimes it
- 12:37Speaker 1: comes off as not caring. I don't believe that this
- 12:40Speaker 1: team doesn't care. I don't believe that they don't have
- 12:43Speaker 1: a passion for winning. I was there in spring training when,
- 12:46Speaker 1: to a man, they knew what the objective was. They
- 12:49Speaker 1: had never been so bold about what the goal was
- 12:52Speaker 1: for the upcoming season, and it was the ultimate goal.
- 12:56Speaker 1: That's what it's about. So I think sometimes a struggling
- 12:59Speaker 1: base ball team can come off like they don't care
- 13:03Speaker 1: because they're frustrated that they're not being successful. I don't
- 13:10Speaker 1: really question the effort. Maybe the Arose Arena play Saturday aside,
- 13:15Speaker 1: and sometimes Randy doesn't give effort, but Randy's weird, So
- 13:20Speaker 1: I don't really question effort, but I do question focus,
- 13:25Speaker 1: And to me, that was a theme throughout the course
- 13:29Speaker 1: of this conversation between Adam and Jerry. He kept bringing
- 13:32Speaker 1: that up, and I think that reflects certainly on the
- 13:36Speaker 1: players more so than the manager.
- 13:40Speaker 3: Focus.
- 13:40Speaker 1: Focus for sure on the players. Brain farts on the
- 13:44Speaker 1: base pass, brain farts in the field's that's players first, Yes,
- 13:49Speaker 1: But I do think a manager has to take responsibility
- 13:54Speaker 1: for a team's lack of focus. If the president's going
- 14:00Speaker 1: to highlight that continuously in an interview as one of
- 14:04Speaker 1: the issues with why the Mariners are under five hundred
- 14:08Speaker 1: ninety seven games into the season when they might have
- 14:11Speaker 1: the best roster in the American League.
- 14:13Speaker 2: Yeah, what's one of the things we talk about. That
- 14:14Speaker 2: is Dan's responsibility getting the most out of your team.
- 14:17Speaker 2: If your team isn't focused, you're not doing your job.
- 14:21Speaker 1: Here is another question for him from Adam. Has the
- 14:23Speaker 1: team's performance in the first half affect of your thinking.
- 14:26Speaker 1: Going forward to Poto's response, not at all. We have
- 14:29Speaker 1: one of the most talented teams in the league, and
- 14:31Speaker 1: I think if you pulled around the league you'd get
- 14:33Speaker 1: a similar answer. That's true. I mean, if you just
- 14:38Speaker 1: cannot bring yourself to like anything about Jerry, or if
- 14:41Speaker 1: you're just in this. I'm a Mariner fan, but I
- 14:43Speaker 1: hate them. If you're one of those fans, you might
- 14:47Speaker 1: not think that's true. That's true.
- 14:49Speaker 3: They still have the third highest odds to win the
- 14:51Speaker 3: World Series.
- 14:53Speaker 1: All national analysts believe in them as much as I
- 14:55Speaker 1: believe them. Yeah, as much as Jerry believes in them.
- 14:58Speaker 1: The reason why they keep coming up as most disappointing
- 15:02Speaker 1: teams of the first half, alongside the Mets, who are
- 15:04Speaker 1: out of it and have a payroll twice the size
- 15:08Speaker 1: of ours, is because that's how much people believe in
- 15:12Speaker 1: this roster that followed the sport for a living. He added,
- 15:16Speaker 1: We've been able to weather the storm of injuries. Eh,
- 15:20Speaker 1: everybody has injuries, and coming out of the break, we're
- 15:22Speaker 1: hopeful that Julio and Brendan Donovan will be back out
- 15:25Speaker 1: there and that we get a cleaner there, it is
- 15:28Speaker 1: again more focused there. It is again group than the
- 15:32Speaker 1: one that went into the break, because that's going to
- 15:35Speaker 1: be required, absolutely, and I do think some of that
- 15:38Speaker 1: falls on the manager. You just can't continue to do
- 15:43Speaker 1: it the same way. You can't just continuously have people's backs.
- 15:46Speaker 1: Did you hear Brian Schmitzer last night, Yeah, air out
- 15:49Speaker 1: his team after one bet them played in a month.
- 15:52Speaker 1: If anybody had an excuse to have an off, rusty,
- 15:54Speaker 1: bad game, it was the Sounders last night. And Brian
- 15:57Speaker 1: Schmetzer as soon as that game was over, that is
- 16:00Speaker 1: it's unacceptable. That is not us and we are not
- 16:03Speaker 1: going to be that going forward. What's wrong with that?
- 16:06Speaker 3: Nothing?
- 16:06Speaker 2: And he even called them out for a lack on defense,
- 16:09Speaker 2: how poorly they played, saying they lacked like five different things.
- 16:12Speaker 3: I thought it was great.
- 16:13Speaker 1: I think it's great. And if a player can't take that,
- 16:17Speaker 1: if they're so thin skinned that they can't take being
- 16:20Speaker 1: called out when they when they're guilty, I call it
- 16:24Speaker 1: truth therapy. I think it's the greatest thing on planet Earth.
- 16:27Speaker 1: Do you ever have one of those moments where somebody
- 16:29Speaker 1: analyzed you, and you've had a lot of them, where
- 16:31Speaker 1: they you're sure they misanalyzed you, but when they're like,
- 16:35Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you just nailed me. Yeah, and it
- 16:38Speaker 1: causes you to go home and think about how you
- 16:40Speaker 1: can be a better person. Yep. Truth therapy works.
- 16:43Speaker 3: It does.
- 16:44Speaker 2: And you know, I don't think you should go out
- 16:45Speaker 2: and call people out individually by name, like Randy didn't
- 16:48Speaker 2: show effort here, and Caldon do this and who you know.
- 16:51Speaker 1: Every once in a while, I think it's okay if
- 16:54Speaker 1: it's agreed very great once.
- 16:55Speaker 3: In a while, yeah, if it's agreedious.
- 16:57Speaker 2: But I do think calling your team out for a
- 16:59Speaker 2: lack of folk or poor base running or things like
- 17:02Speaker 2: that is okay.
- 17:04Speaker 3: It should happen.
- 17:06Speaker 1: All right, let's go to this one. It's a long list.
- 17:11Speaker 1: I don't think I got time to go through it.
- 17:12Speaker 1: But he's talked about pitching and how good the pitching
- 17:16Speaker 1: has been in the first half, and then that he's
- 17:18Speaker 1: sure it's going to continue into the second half. And
- 17:20Speaker 1: he did say that the piggyback plan, even though it
- 17:23Speaker 1: was strange for everyone, it did seem to write Luis
- 17:26Speaker 1: Castillo and Bryce Miller was spectacular in it. And those
- 17:30Speaker 1: things are also true. You know, you don't have a
- 17:32Speaker 1: problem with a piggyback. Certainly, nobody can say what a
- 17:36Speaker 1: runaway success it was, but those there's some truth to that.
- 17:41Speaker 1: Those are true statements that are be made now on
- 17:43Speaker 1: whether or not he's going to trade a starting pitcher.
- 17:45Speaker 1: He said it would be unusual at this time of
- 17:47Speaker 1: the year for a team that views itself as a contender,
- 17:50Speaker 1: which we do, to trade from the goodness of its
- 17:53Speaker 1: major league roster to answer other problems. But I can't
- 17:56Speaker 1: say that that's out of the question for us. It's
- 17:59Speaker 1: a trading deadline. There's not been any movement. I guess
- 18:04Speaker 1: Lance mccullor's junior got traded. I don't even know if
- 18:07Speaker 1: he even has a functioning right arm anymore. And so
- 18:11Speaker 1: it's been a strange There are seven teams that look
- 18:14Speaker 1: like they are sellers right now. I mean, we're two
- 18:17Speaker 1: weeks away from the end of July and there are
- 18:20Speaker 1: seven teams that look like trade possibilities, and they don't
- 18:25Speaker 1: exactly there's a reason why they're one of the seven.
- 18:29Speaker 1: They don't have a lot to trade. There's not a
- 18:32Speaker 1: lot of interest. So we've got a slow market. We
- 18:35Speaker 1: got a seller's market, a lot of things are gonna
- 18:37Speaker 1: have to play out in the next two and a
- 18:39Speaker 1: half weeks. And what he's saying is it might not
- 18:42Speaker 1: be a traditional trade deadline type deal. We might have
- 18:47Speaker 1: to trade a lot of teams, might have to trade
- 18:50Speaker 1: that are both contenders, and this is usually not what
- 18:54Speaker 1: you see at the deadline. We'll trade from a surplus
- 18:58Speaker 1: to establish to get back up something that addresses our weakness,
- 19:02Speaker 1: and we could do the same for you. So that
- 19:04Speaker 1: would put any one of your starting pitchers possibly on
- 19:08Speaker 1: the trading block for the right piece. And then finally
- 19:12Speaker 1: he did say about the lefties. At some point, we
- 19:15Speaker 1: just have to be better offensively against all pitching. We
- 19:18Speaker 1: do have a clear flaw for facing left handed pitching.
- 19:23Speaker 1: I hope people can't stand him, like you know how
- 19:26Speaker 1: rare it is to be that honest. He's the only
- 19:28Speaker 1: one that is in that organization. They won't even tell
- 19:31Speaker 1: us about injuries. He will tell you the truth, not
- 19:36Speaker 1: all the time. He covers some things up, but I
- 19:39Speaker 1: love that he's just like, yeah, we stunt against left
- 19:42Speaker 1: handed pitching, and that's something we'd like to resolve. Although
- 19:45Speaker 1: there are really no clear and obvious places we can
- 19:48Speaker 1: fit players on our roster, and there are no clear
- 19:51Speaker 1: and obvious players who are available right now. Those are
- 19:54Speaker 1: all truths. Everybody thinks, like, go get this guy, Well,
- 19:58Speaker 1: he's not available. Whatever it takes, they're not gonna get
- 20:02Speaker 1: anywhere in professional sports. John Schneider does not spend whatever
- 20:06Speaker 1: it takes. John Schneider makes the shrewdest damn trades in
- 20:10Speaker 1: the National Football League. No, No, if you run the
- 20:15Speaker 1: practice of that guy fits our needs, we're gonna give
- 20:18Speaker 1: them whatever it taks. You are gonna be You got,
- 20:21Speaker 1: you got like an eighteen month shelf life, and you're
- 20:24Speaker 1: gonna be one of the worst teams in baseball. You
- 20:27Speaker 1: just don't operate that way. You still gotta make good,
- 20:31Speaker 1: sensible moves to add the right pieces, and right now
- 20:34Speaker 1: they're just on't a lot of pieces available on the market. Yeah,
- 20:38Speaker 1: so it's gonna be a challenge going forward. But I
- 20:42Speaker 1: found a lot of honesty in the interview I did,
- 20:45Speaker 1: and I'm glad to hear some of it, because I
- 20:48Speaker 1: don't know if we have gotten much information along these lines.
- 20:53Speaker 1: They are aware of how bad they've been, they are
- 20:55Speaker 1: aware of what it's gonna take to fill those holes,
- 20:58Speaker 1: and it sounds like they're on the job, so I
- 21:00Speaker 1: do think it's going to be a much better second half.
- 21:03Speaker 1: I do think, as I've said all along, they will
- 21:06Speaker 1: eventually pull away. I get the frustration. I'm frustrated. I
- 21:09Speaker 1: don't know why we have to do this every year,
- 21:11Speaker 1: especially when we have a much better roster than our
- 21:14Speaker 1: peers in the American League West. But that's the position
- 21:17Speaker 1: that we're in. I do think they will get it together.
- 21:20Speaker 1: They will pull away. We will be in the playoffs,
- 21:22Speaker 1: and we will be a major threat in the World Series.
- 21:25Speaker 1: But this team played crappy in the first half of
- 21:28Speaker 1: the season. There's no getting around it. All right, Coming
- 21:30Speaker 1: up next, we've got the depth chart right now, an
- 21:33Speaker 1: update from the Open Championship. Who is this?
- 21:38Speaker 3: Who's this gem of a human with a voice of
- 21:41Speaker 3: goddess man?
- 21:42Speaker 1: That song it is?
- 21:43Speaker 3: Yeah, she's great.
- 21:44Speaker 1: Yeah, she's pretty talented. As it turns out.
- 21:47Speaker 3: It turns out she should make it a career.
- 21:49Speaker 1: Yeah did she ever make it?
- 21:52Speaker 3: I've seen her in a while, so I'm not sure.
- 21:55Speaker 1: I mean, let me check the concert schedule to laylup
- 21:59Speaker 1: to see if he's going to be performing out there. No,
- 22:02Speaker 1: it doesn't look like this year. Black Crows will be
- 22:04Speaker 1: there though on Sunday, August thirtieth, Anthony Hamilton, September tenth,
- 22:08Speaker 1: George Thoroughgood and The Destroyer's Baddest Show on Earth on
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- 22:25Speaker 1: we got a brand new segment here on the show.
- 22:27Speaker 1: We introduced it last week. It's called the Depth Chart,
- 22:30Speaker 1: and I'm bringing it back here this week. But it's
- 22:33Speaker 1: going to be a Seahawks Training Camp edition. We are now,
- 22:37Speaker 1: I mean, we can't be any further into a countdown,
- 22:40Speaker 1: right yeah. Next week will be the last week without
- 22:44Speaker 1: training camp, yep, and so a little training camp edition.
- 22:49Speaker 1: And it's been ranking season here as of late. And
- 22:53Speaker 1: apparently this Jeremy Fowler list that had everybody talking on
- 22:57Speaker 1: all the talk shows, only four Seahawks, only four players
- 23:01Speaker 1: off the World Championship team ended up on the list.
- 23:06Speaker 1: There were some teams that had nine players that made
- 23:08Speaker 1: these lists, but the World Champs only had four guys.
- 23:11Speaker 1: And this isn't you know, you're not you're not polling writers,
- 23:17Speaker 1: or this is executives, coaches and whatnot. So I don't
- 23:22Speaker 1: know who who he pulled, but this is not just
- 23:26Speaker 1: you know, a bunch of talk show hosts somewhere. So
- 23:29Speaker 1: the four are JSN, nick Emon Woory, Devin Witherspoon, and
- 23:32Speaker 1: Leonard Williams. They got acknowledged as the top players among
- 23:37Speaker 1: the or among the top players at their positions. So
- 23:40Speaker 1: if those are the four we have to work on
- 23:42Speaker 1: work with, let's do our depth chart here, Ashley. Of
- 23:47Speaker 1: the four, let's rank the four. Okay, all right, JSN,
- 23:51Speaker 1: Emon Worry, Devin Witherspoon, and Leonard Williams. Who are our
- 23:55Speaker 1: four best players in sequence?
- 23:57Speaker 2: Hmmm, that is a hard one because I feel like
- 24:00Speaker 2: I want to I'm gonna go JSN first. I feel
- 24:03Speaker 2: like I want to go Emon Worry, But at the
- 24:05Speaker 2: same time, he's so young. I don't know if I'm
- 24:08Speaker 2: just so excited about him that I'm not thinking about
- 24:12Speaker 2: the entirety of things. I think I would go JSN,
- 24:21Speaker 2: Devin Witherspoon, Leonard Williams, nick Eman Worey.
- 24:24Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's safe. I think you were actually
- 24:26Speaker 1: on it before. Okay, okay, yeah, my depth chart is
- 24:31Speaker 1: Jsn's my starter. Yeah, nick Emon Worry is two. I
- 24:34Speaker 1: just think the second year is when you improve the most.
- 24:38Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm really excited to see what you're gonna.
- 24:40Speaker 1: Do terrifying for the rest of the league. So I'm
- 24:43Speaker 1: gonna go em and Warri too. I'm gonna go Spoon three,
- 24:45Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go Leonard Williams four. All Right, the
- 24:47Speaker 1: four snubs, if you will. Four guys that I thought
- 24:50Speaker 1: for sure would be on this list. Let's rank them.
- 24:55Speaker 1: Sam Darnold didn't make it on the list. Gray Zabel
- 24:59Speaker 1: didn't make it on a list. Byron Murphy didn't make
- 25:02Speaker 1: it on a list. Ernest Jones didn't make it on
- 25:05Speaker 1: a list. So who's the starter on the snub depth chart?
- 25:11Speaker 3: Ernest Jones number one?
- 25:12Speaker 1: Well, really see, I'm going Byron Murphy number one as
- 25:16Speaker 1: my biggest nub. I think that's ridiculous that he's not ranked.
- 25:20Speaker 1: And did you just go over sacks? Is that all
- 25:24Speaker 1: you did?
- 25:24Speaker 3: You?
- 25:25Speaker 1: Maybe whoever was pulled, did you just google who had
- 25:28Speaker 1: the most sacks last year? Because there's no way Byron
- 25:33Speaker 1: Murphy's not one of the best defensive tackles in the game.
- 25:35Speaker 3: No, I would agree, it's very good.
- 25:37Speaker 2: Yeah, I would put see I'm gonna go so I
- 25:41Speaker 2: would go Jones first, Darnold second, Murphy third, and who
- 25:45Speaker 2: was our oh and then Zabel fourth because I can
- 25:48Speaker 2: understand he's he.
- 25:49Speaker 1: Just to say Murphy third, yeah, oh boy.
- 25:51Speaker 2: He just finished his rookie season. For Zabel, and I
- 25:55Speaker 2: hope for a lot more from him, and I think
- 25:57Speaker 2: we'll get a lot more, but I can understand him
- 25:58Speaker 2: not being on the list yet.
- 25:59Speaker 1: I'm gonna Murphy one's Abel two? Wow, Donald three, Jones four. Okay,
- 26:06Speaker 1: that's my list.
- 26:08Speaker 3: More opposite there.
- 26:09Speaker 1: Yeah, we're a little different on this one, all right.
- 26:11Speaker 1: There was also a list. I don't know if this
- 26:13Speaker 1: was the foul or maybe it was. I don't know,
- 26:15Speaker 1: but I heard it the other day on Coward Show.
- 26:18Speaker 1: But Mike McDonald got raped the third best head coach.
- 26:22Speaker 3: In the national Who were the two ahead of.
- 26:23Speaker 1: Him, Andy Reid okay, Sean McVay okay, and then Kyle
- 26:28Speaker 1: Shanahan was fourth on that list. So do you agree
- 26:33Speaker 1: with the list? Let's do the head coaching best head
- 26:35Speaker 1: coaches in the National Football League depth chart, who's your
- 26:39Speaker 1: number one?
- 26:40Speaker 2: I would I mean, I know I'm biased, but I
- 26:41Speaker 2: would go Mike McDonald because the Chiefs were not good
- 26:44Speaker 2: last year, and I'm sorry, but didn't we beat the Rams.
- 26:48Speaker 3: We did beat the Rams okay a couple of times.
- 26:50Speaker 1: Now. Sean McVay very good head coach. Sean McVay. I
- 26:53Speaker 1: don't know we necessarily beat Sean McVay well in terms
- 26:58Speaker 1: of his offense, but I'm with you. Yeah, I think
- 27:02Speaker 1: he's the best head coach. I wouldn't trade him for anybody.
- 27:04Speaker 1: I said it last year. I think he's only going
- 27:06Speaker 1: to get better. I don't care if there's not enough
- 27:11Speaker 1: proving ground like Andy Reid has, or that even Sean
- 27:15Speaker 1: McVay has, even though they're similar age. Sean mcvage has
- 27:18Speaker 1: had a lot longer in the league proving that he's great.
- 27:21Speaker 1: I just wouldn't trade our guy for anybody. I'm going
- 27:25Speaker 1: McDonald won.
- 27:26Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think obviously if you're going for a career,
- 27:29Speaker 2: like the entirety of someone's going, but that's not where
- 27:31Speaker 2: we're that's what we're doing, right, because then i'd put
- 27:33Speaker 2: Andy Reid first.
- 27:34Speaker 3: But that's now where we're going. So I would go, yeah,
- 27:36Speaker 3: Mike McDonald, Sean McVay, Andy Reid.
- 27:38Speaker 1: I would do Okay, that's exact order that I would
- 27:41Speaker 1: go in at this stage. And then I don't even
- 27:45Speaker 1: know if I put Shannon Okay, I'll give you Okay,
- 27:47Speaker 1: I'll give you Kyle Shannon, because I did say last
- 27:49Speaker 1: year I think he should be Coach of the Year
- 27:50Speaker 1: because of how many injuries he we had to deal
- 27:52Speaker 1: with a lot, and they still ended up with what
- 27:54Speaker 1: twelve thirteen wins on the season a year ago. But
- 27:59Speaker 1: my goodness, we don't have the same disparity. There's a
- 28:03Speaker 1: conversation out there. McVeigh versus McDonald. There is no conversation
- 28:07Speaker 1: Shanahan versus.
- 28:08Speaker 3: No okay domination.
- 28:11Speaker 1: They could go out to dinner together and McDonald would
- 28:15Speaker 1: be like, I'm gonna have the t bone and Kyle's
- 28:18Speaker 1: gonna have the chicken, and Kyle's gonna be like, how
- 28:21Speaker 1: did you know I was going to have chicken? Kind
- 28:25Speaker 1: of got you figured out?
- 28:26Speaker 2: Yeah, sordid, Oh gosh.
- 28:31Speaker 1: McVeigh could be like, hey, Kyle, I'm thinking of the
- 28:33Speaker 1: number between one and ten. Tell me what I'm thinking,
- 28:36Speaker 1: and McDonald be like five and Shanahan's like, how did
- 28:39Speaker 1: you know that.
- 28:42Speaker 3: Got your number?
- 28:42Speaker 1: Buddy? Well, I've kind of figured you out. I know
- 28:44Speaker 1: exactly what you're gonna do before you're gonna do it. Yes, anyway,
- 28:48Speaker 1: it's gonna be a real fun next ten years up, buddy.
- 28:52Speaker 1: All right, final one, and I want to do this quickly.
- 28:54Speaker 1: But just some things that I think, although unlikely, maybe
- 29:01Speaker 1: they happen. Maybe you tell me the unlikely thing you'd
- 29:05Speaker 1: like to see happen, okay during our training camp coverage
- 29:09Speaker 1: or no, no, no, no, no, let me take that back. Uh,
- 29:11Speaker 1: this will be the most unlikely things to have happened. Okay,
- 29:14Speaker 1: this is the most unlikely thing to have happened to
- 29:16Speaker 1: our during our training camp coverage that JSN decides he's
- 29:21Speaker 1: too big a deal to talk to us. We just
- 29:22Speaker 1: had him on last year. Yeah, DK never came on
- 29:25Speaker 1: with us. It's true, just had him on last year. Okay,
- 29:30Speaker 1: do you think that? Do you think he's gonna be
- 29:31Speaker 1: big time? He's so good now that he won't come home? Uh,
- 29:36Speaker 1: Ernest Jones will join us and not cuss.
- 29:39Speaker 2: Oh I don't think so. He wouldn't be Ernest Jones
- 29:43Speaker 2: if he didn't. That's what we love about him.
- 29:45Speaker 1: I will challenge DeMarcus Lawrence to a oiled up pose
- 29:50Speaker 1: down and he will lose.
- 29:52Speaker 3: Oh, You're definitely gonna do it. But he will not lose.
- 29:56Speaker 1: And I will remind Michael Dixon and how much better
- 30:02Speaker 1: we are at soccer than Australia.
- 30:04Speaker 3: Oh, you're definitely going to do that as well. Okay, yeah,
- 30:06Speaker 3: you're going to do that, all right.
- 30:07Speaker 1: So what's the most unlikely.
- 30:09Speaker 3: Unlikely is that JSN snubs really?
- 30:13Speaker 1: Yeah? So you think I got a better chance of
- 30:15Speaker 1: beating DML and down? Well, thank you.
- 30:20Speaker 3: I'm very flatter people with it.
- 30:22Speaker 1: I think I'm very flattered, Thank you very much. Say
- 30:24Speaker 1: no more, well.
- 30:25Speaker 3: Because you say less here.
- 30:27Speaker 2: Here's the thing is that I think you will challenge
- 30:29Speaker 2: him to it that so I think half will happen,
- 30:32Speaker 2: and then I think you'll lose miserably.
- 30:33Speaker 1: Oh well, I really lose. I don't know. I think
- 30:35Speaker 1: it'll be pretty close. Yes, all right, So you still
- 30:40Speaker 1: think JSN is less likely to happen him turning us down.
- 30:44Speaker 3: I think that's less likely to happen, and not necessarily.
- 30:46Speaker 2: I mean, he might not go on our show if
- 30:48Speaker 2: the schedule doesn't work out, but he will come on
- 30:49Speaker 2: the station.
- 30:50Speaker 1: I think the least likely thing to happen is that
- 30:53Speaker 1: Ernest Jones comes on our show and doesn't cuss.
- 30:56Speaker 3: Yeah, you ready to fit the dump button for sure?
- 31:00Speaker 1: And then I'll go DeMarcus Lawrence posedownh JSI and Michael Dixon,
- 31:05Speaker 1: because yes, I will rub it in. Yeah. Well, all right,
- 31:07Speaker 1: coming up next, it is trade season and it's the
- 31:11Speaker 1: name that a lot of people seem to want the
- 31:14Speaker 1: Mariners to land. And I'm going to caution you don't
- 31:17Speaker 1: think it's a good idea. Sports Radio ninety three point
- 31:19Speaker 1: three KJRFM. All right, coming up at the top of
- 31:31Speaker 1: the hour, you're ohow your eight top story? So the day.
- 31:33Speaker 1: We do it every Friday here on the radio program,
- 31:37Speaker 1: and we have top news right here at KJR that
- 31:40Speaker 1: we'll share with you right out of the shoot. It's
- 31:42Speaker 1: our top story of the day. So we'll do that
- 31:44Speaker 1: at eight o'clock here today. But it's also trade season
- 31:48Speaker 1: and I've been hearing a name that's thrown out a lot.
- 31:51Speaker 1: The Mariners should be interested in this guy, and I'm
- 31:54Speaker 1: not dismissing it. I think that Baltimore's Taylor Ward would
- 31:59Speaker 1: be an upgrade to our roster, and he is having
- 32:02Speaker 1: a good year, but the unusual way that he has
- 32:06Speaker 1: gone about his good year strikes me as a bit worrisome.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Taylor Ward this year has suddenly, at the age of
- 32:15Speaker 1: thirty two, turned into an on base machine, which has
- 32:19Speaker 1: really been his flaw his entire career. That he's had
- 32:23Speaker 1: a an on base over three thirty five, which isn't
- 32:27Speaker 1: great once in his entire career, and he's thirty two
- 32:32Speaker 1: years old. That's a lengthy career. But for whatever reason,
- 32:34Speaker 1: for whatever reason, this year, he's got a three eighty
- 32:37Speaker 1: seven on base uh and he has a two point
- 32:41Speaker 1: war on war because of it. So he's been playing
- 32:43Speaker 1: at a rate of about a four war player at
- 32:46Speaker 1: this point in the season. So a lot of people think,
- 32:48Speaker 1: because he's also hitting lefties very well this year, that
- 32:51Speaker 1: here is a veteran who's kind of proven he can
- 32:55Speaker 1: hit at the major leagues. He's having a very good year.
- 32:59Speaker 1: He's doing so some of the things that this team
- 33:01Speaker 1: seems to miss, putting the ball in play more this
- 33:03Speaker 1: year and certainly getting on base more this year, and
- 33:07Speaker 1: so maybe this is the right fit. Well, let's assume
- 33:10Speaker 1: he's going to be available at all, because the Orioles
- 33:13Speaker 1: are not on that list of seven teams who are
- 33:16Speaker 1: out of it. They are still kind of holding on
- 33:20Speaker 1: because of how poor the American League has been so
- 33:23Speaker 1: far this season. So I don't even think he's technically available.
- 33:27Speaker 1: But if he does become available and the Mariners were
- 33:29Speaker 1: to acquire him, I would think to myself, all right,
- 33:32Speaker 1: that's an upgrade to the lineup that works. But I
- 33:36Speaker 1: do worry a little bit about how a Tiger could
- 33:40Speaker 1: change his stripes like that, because he only has six
- 33:44Speaker 1: home runs this year. It's like, this is a guy
- 33:47Speaker 1: that hit thirty six home runs a year ago and
- 33:51Speaker 1: he's on pace to hit eleven and people are treating
- 33:53Speaker 1: it like he's having some big breakout year. Well, he
- 33:58Speaker 1: in the offseason, I'll be decided, I'm gonna get on
- 34:02Speaker 1: base and put the ball in play more. I mean,
- 34:04Speaker 1: his batting average is up twenty seven points, is on
- 34:07Speaker 1: base is up seventy points, but his slugging is down
- 34:12Speaker 1: over one hundred points so far this season, and so
- 34:18Speaker 1: he's not the player that he's been. It's almost as
- 34:21Speaker 1: if he's wearing a costume. He's like, hey, everybody, it's
- 34:26Speaker 1: me Taylor Ward. You thought I was Ricky Yeller get me? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Hey, surprise,
- 34:33Speaker 1: it's me Taylor Ward. I'm not an on base guy.
- 34:36Speaker 3: Did you guys know? You guys didn't know that was
- 34:38Speaker 3: me this little time.
- 34:39Speaker 1: So he's just something. I mean, it's one thing if
- 34:42Speaker 1: you do that from twenty four to twenty five, when
- 34:44Speaker 1: you do that from thirty one to thirty two, that
- 34:47Speaker 1: actually sends off some red flags for me, like what
- 34:53Speaker 1: are you? Because frankly, if I were to acquire you,
- 34:56Speaker 1: even though we could use a guy that gets on base,
- 34:59Speaker 1: we could use a guy that hits lefties, and we
- 35:01Speaker 1: could use a guy that puts the ball in play
- 35:02Speaker 1: more than what he used to, I'd still prefer having
- 35:06Speaker 1: the Taylor Ward that hit thirty six home runs last year,
- 35:10Speaker 1: drove in over one hundred runs, even though the batting
- 35:13Speaker 1: average in the on base wasn't so good. So if
- 35:17Speaker 1: you don't feel that way, if you're like, no, no, no,
- 35:20Speaker 1: we need the on bass guy. We need to put
- 35:22Speaker 1: the ball in play guy. We need a veteran, a
- 35:25Speaker 1: sorer thing than what we have in our everyday lineup.
- 35:30Speaker 1: But what happens if he wakes up one morning and
- 35:33Speaker 1: he's not that guy. I mean, he's been the power
- 35:35Speaker 1: hitting guy his whole career, and now all of a sudden,
- 35:38Speaker 1: he's on bass guy. I'm not sure I trust that,
- 35:40Speaker 1: and I certainly am not going to give up a
- 35:42Speaker 1: lot to acquire that, right. So would I take him? Yeah,
- 35:47Speaker 1: he was available. If he was like bundled up in
- 35:49Speaker 1: a basket and just left outside T mobile, would I
- 35:52Speaker 1: drag him in and raise him as our own?
- 35:54Speaker 3: Yep, I'd do that. I'm moses it.
- 35:57Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd take him out of the reds and see
- 35:59Speaker 1: what he can do, maybe take us to the promised
- 36:01Speaker 1: land here? But am I going to if he he
- 36:05Speaker 1: might end up being the number one bat on the market?
- 36:08Speaker 1: Am I gonna pay number one bat on the market
- 36:10Speaker 1: price for a guy that has curiously changed the baseball
- 36:16Speaker 1: player that he is in his mid frickin thirties. I'm
- 36:19Speaker 1: worried about.
- 36:20Speaker 2: That, And that's understandable, Yeah, because you don't you wonder
- 36:22Speaker 2: especially I feel like here we get burned by people
- 36:25Speaker 2: who come in and aren't the same player they were.
- 36:27Speaker 2: And if someone is already not being the same player
- 36:29Speaker 2: he was, how's that going to translate?
- 36:31Speaker 3: When they come here and change more.
- 36:33Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. Or he gets here and
- 36:35Speaker 1: he's like, ah, I don't want to be that guy anymore.
- 36:38Speaker 1: That guy's boring and it just gets on it first. Yeah,
- 36:40Speaker 1: Like I like that guy used to trot around the
- 36:43Speaker 1: bases on him dingers. I want to be him again,
- 36:46Speaker 1: all right, ojo is next Your eight top stories of
- 36:48Speaker 1: the day on Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM.