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Weekend Recap with the Bears over the Packers, Iowa falls to Illinois & ISU gets past OSU, Scott Dochterman talks Hawkeyes & College Football Playoff · The Lunch Rush with Trent Condon

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  Hi, good afternoon. Welcome Miller and Condon on a
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  Monday. The Iowa Sports Radio Network,
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  Trent Condon and Ken Miller for the next two hours to talk
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  sports with you. Thanks for starting your
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  afternoon with us wherever you are listening.
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  We are certainly grateful that you are.
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  Here's what's coming up on our program at the bottom of the
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  hour. We'll catch up with Scott
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  Dockerman from the Athletic. He was at Carver yesterday.
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  We will pick his brain on what he saw.
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  Obviously a college, a lot of college football conversation to
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  get to with Doc and we'll do so at 12:30, at 1:00 or just after
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  1:00. And when we resume with our
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  number two Bill Seals on the Iowa State men remain
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  undefeated. Tough one for the ladies over
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  the weekend and the portal Jimmy Rogers continues to do work as
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  they rebuild that roster. So Bill seals a lot of ground to
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  cover Iowa State related. We will do so at 1:00 Bama Bob
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  at about 1:25. We'll recap the weekend as we
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  are down to one game left in college football and Mr. Monday
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  night with his pick on the final of NFL game.
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  But I guess we he's we're off next Monday.
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  This is it. All of us are off for MLK day
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  next week. So Mr. Monday night I I think it
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  all comes down to this season hinges on tonight's pick.
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  It's a 20 star play to try to get back to about 500.
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  Absolutely. So that's I should go through
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  and see what my Monday night record is probably not very
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  good. Anyways, you'll we'll get his
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  pick good or not coming up here. Do with it what you will as you
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  do at coming up here. About 10 minutes before 2O
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  clock. So much ground to cover.
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  Wild card weekend was unbelievable.
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  College hoops was kind of hit and miss depending on what team
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  you root for. But the weekend of NFL was
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  fascinating and we got to start in Chicago.
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  I saw you started the week with this tune from Chicago wearing
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  your Bears hat and your Bears sweatshirt.
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  Pretty good to be a Bears fan today.
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  And what a football game it was, as the Bears do what they've
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  done all season long and that's find a way to win a football
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  game. I don't know where awful,
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  absolutely brutal. So I want to tell you, I've told
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  you before, I don't drink at home very often, certainly
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  unless we have people over, you know, things like that.
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  Just that's something that I do very often.
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  But at halftime, Ella was at a sleepover, so she was out of the
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  house. And Tara takes Jack up because
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  he had a wrestling tournament yesterday, Sunday.
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  So halftime she goes up like, you know what, I'm going to
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  crack one because this is awful. And maybe at least a little bit,
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  of course, is going to soothe my pain a little bit here as we
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  watch this dreadful second-half in front of us.
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  Maybe that was the turn around. Well, I'm going to credit you
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  because whatever it was, 25 to 6, the throw will live forever.
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  The 4th and 8th and the fact that somebody had the
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  wherewithal, the fortitude to what do you call it, transpose.
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  Michael Jordan's jumping under Caleb Williams as it's been on
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  all over Twitter. I mean, it's fascinating how he
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  made that throw moving to his left in a narrow window over a
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  linebacker or say whatever it was, squeezed it in between
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  there to a doomsday. It's not like it was in the
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  final minute of the game. There was 5 minutes left, but it
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  was a huge point in the game. What a football game.
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  I have no problem with the handshake after the OR lack of
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  because it's not the first time those two apparently don't like
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  each other. No, absolutely.
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  And that's OK. When Ben Johnson got the job in
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  his opening press conference, he said he likes being beating Matt
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  Lafleur twice a year. You know, that's one of the
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  reasons he wanted to take the bet and out.
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  Lafleur played it the other way. I really don't.
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  We don't have a relationship, but I don't know really who he
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  is. But we don't know each other.
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  It's kind of gone that direction but the first game it was a blow
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  by yeah second game it was Lafleur blowing by yes
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  absolutely. And so that's what it is did you
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  see the security guard that was on the right shoulder did yes of
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  Lafleur. So was that in anticipation of
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  maybe something, I think it was the lady.
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  No, I think it was in anticipation of we're not going
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  to get a let him get that blow by and and get him kind of maybe
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  give him a little shoulder drop block.
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  Yeah, yeah, a little block there had an extra defender with him,
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  Lee Blocker that was going out there on his left side.
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  But. And after and the locker room
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  speech and everything that goes along with it.
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  But this is this Bears team. And I've told you so many times
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  throughout the course of this year, really after the first
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  month, I just love watching this team.
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  I mean, as a fan, I have had never had as much fun since I
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  was in kindergarten watching A-Team because I, I know it's 40
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  years ago. But afterwards there was a lot
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  of disappointment with that Bears team not being able to get
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  back over the hump again. San Francisco is re emerging,
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  obviously what they turned into in the late 80s.
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  Yet the Redskins teams that were tremendous at all was about to
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  make a trade and change the fortunes of their franchise.
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  And that was even a little bit later on than that.
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  But that completely changed what you thought after the Super
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  Bowl, Super Bowl 20. Well, they're going to have 3-4
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  movies and, oh, they didn't give Walter Payton A touchdown and
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  they came, but that's fine because they're going to be
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  back. And they weren't.
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  They weren't back. And year after year, yeah, you
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  won the old NFC Central, but that was about it.
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  And now to have this and just to do it in that fashion and to
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  have a quarterback that the Bears have never had before,
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  watched a lot of football. I've never had a quarterback
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  even close to this guy in terms of talent.
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  There's nobody and if you bring up Jay Cutler but bring up his
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  arm, I'll bring up his arm, but that's it.
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  He was he was a terrible, he was not a good quarterback.
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  There's more than just having a good arm.
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  I'm just saying he had a great arm, but that's about it is what
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  he said. Jay Cutler is not even in the
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  same stratosphere, you know, as Caleb Williams and you mentioned
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  that throw. How many guys in the NFL can
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  make that throw? Well, I mean couple of them, but
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  that was at the timing wise. It was, it was, it was.
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  Are you sure there is even a couple of them moving to your
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  last about 32 NFL quarters? Yes, I'm guessing there'll be
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  some of them. They can.
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  But that was a remarkable throw. It was remarkable at the timing.
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  It looked as though they were cooked.
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  And how big would it have been if it was incomplete?
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  It was over. It probably was game over.
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  And he made the comeback and do it the way they did it.
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  And I don't know what Jordan Love was doing his final pass to
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  the game. I mean, that wasn't even close.
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  Like he gave up, but here you take away, you've got no shot.
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  The play before it was there. He.
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  Just missed Golden. He just he did just missed
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  Golden. There were six guys around him,
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  but he threaded the needle on that one and just missed on that
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  one. And the only spot that he could
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  get it away from the Bears for a moment to the Packers side.
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  Now they get in again. Third consecutive year, though
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  was a seven seed. You look at some of the playoff
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  losses that they've had. I mean, go all the way back from
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  the Super Bowl and they had Aaron Rodgers, but the Brad
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  Farve Super Bowl. And you go through and you look
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  at the list of losses that they've had in the playoffs.
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  Helicopter, John Elway TO in the playoffs with two guys
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  sandwiched in in between them and making that play and just on
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  and on and on. The number of times that this
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  Packers team, at times it's felt like the best team, certainly a
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  better team on the field in those individual games and have
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  not been able to get it done. Now, because you have a couple
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  of Super Bowls, that changes things, Obviously.
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  However, they got a lot of playoff strife that has gone
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  against them and the floor is coming back apparently.
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  OK, Yeah. As a Bears fan, you've got to be
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  right. Yeah, as a Bears fan, you've got
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  to be rather see him than John Harbaugh on the other side, have
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  seen him than a lot of guys. So what was the adjustment at
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  halftime because how many 3 and outs were there to begin this?
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  Was there 3 or 4 consecutive 3 and outs to start the
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  second-half? There was a bunch of them, yes.
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  And this team looked like in the first, in the 1st 30 minutes,
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  Chicago was totally lost. Green Bay had all the momentum
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  going into the locker room and it the script just completely
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  flipped. And on to the fourth quarter we
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  went and out scored them 25 to 6.
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  It's just, it was a remarkable comeback, remarkable turn around
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  by a team that's essentially done this all year long.
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  And and they did it again. Now here come the Rams.
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  But it's another home game for Chicago, for the Chicago folks
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  that sold your field. Can't wait for it.
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  Obviously, we'll get and certainly going to have some fun
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  leading up to it and talking about it.
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  But hats off to Caleb Williams. Hats off to the receiving corps.
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  I'll tell you who deserves maybe the biggest hands off.
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  Maybe not the biggest hands off because that should be reserved
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  for for Caleb Williams. But Colston loved what a game,
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  what a game. And for all of us, and I say us
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  because there's a lot of us, both of us, both of us and every
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  a lot of us in the listening audience that thought, what are
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  they doing? Tyler Warren is still on the
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  board. What a mistake this was.
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  Well, Warren's a nice player, but love them.
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  Great fit and a nice player at the same time.
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  So they absolutely got that one right.
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  Three out of four drives went three and out.
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  They had one first down. Was that what it was?
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  It was unbelief in the second-half to start the
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  second-half. And what the Bears did and
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  Dennis Allen did and they got the ball first, right?
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  Green Bay, they did, yeah, 3 and up right away was they applied
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  more pressure, a lot more blitzing than what happened
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  there. And well, if you're going to sit
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  back and just let him pick you apart and it doesn't matter if
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  you're dropping 6-7 or eight, but yeah, apply a little bit
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  more pressure there. I thought Montez Sweat was good.
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  He was. I agree.
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  It hasn't been consistent, no, But when it's there definitely
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  changes the complexion, you know, And another thing, Edwards
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  going out. Edwards is good linebacker.
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  Yeah. However, yeah, get a little more
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  speed out there, a little more ankle or foot.
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  Do they? I mean, it's over.
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  Yeah. It's yeah, it's season ending.
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  Johnson mentioned that in the post game press conference that
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  it's over for him. Same thing for the offensive
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  lineman. Speaking of big plays, Trapillo.
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  Trapillo, how do I say his name? Yeah, Yeah, him just getting to
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  the sideline and not not wasting a time out.
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  Great point on that one. Great point that that one time
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  out was incredibly important. Excellent point.
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  And how many guys actually do that or have the wherewithal to
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  know that this is a pretty significant injury?
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  Was he being coached or was he on his own?
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  I mean, I don't know. They just cut to him as he's
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  kind of hopping over the sideline and being able to go
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  there. But that was absolutely
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  monstrous in a game where you kind of needed breaks, you
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  needed a couple of goofy things, and he needed small things like
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  that too. All of them stack up.
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  You come back and get the victory.
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  Dennis Allen, lot of credit, He deserves it.
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  Ben Johnson, absolutely. And Caleb once again, fine.
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  And the confidence and seeing him in the first half, See that
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  team at the end of the second quarter, they just looked dead.
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  Well, R Johnson going for it on 4th down like he was.
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  I thought he was panicking. Well, yes.
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  Yeah. What?
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  On the 30? Was it 3030 something?
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  What are you doing? I agree.
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  You're giving him three points. You don't want to punt.
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  Tori Taylor, by the way, didn't punt in the game something.
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  Let's get Mitch in here, then we'll get back to the game.
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  But don't keep him on hold. Mitch for Thanks for being
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  patient. How are you?
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  I'm good guys. How are you?
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  Fine, Trat. First of all, congratulations,
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  as much as that pains me to say. Thank you.
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  Thank you. You've had a lot of
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  congratulations throughout the year, so.
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  Thank you. Yeah, yeah, I know you guys
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  brought up all the playoff disasters and just add, add this
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  one to the list, man. Hopefully they made those.
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  Hopefully they made Rick's Versace, Brandon McManus,
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  Carrington Valentine and Keyshawn Nixon.
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  I'll walk back to Green Bay. Especially McManus.
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  That was brutal. They kept they kept the wrong
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  kicker and. Cost them how?
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  Many games this year. So I mean, like you guys talked
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  about Caleb Caleb Williams made a heck of a play on that fourth
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  down to essentially save the game for the bears, but love
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  almost made just as great a throw hitting Watson to win the
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  game. So I mean, it sucks.
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  I I'm I'm in pain. Yeah, Mitch, thanks for the
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  call, brother. Appreciate it.
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  And yeah, yeah, I understand it. I understand.
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  I love the rivalry. It's phenomenal for the NFL.
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  It's so great that it played out on on Amazon.
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  Not great, that part, but there was on Saturday night.
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  I wonder what the number would have been, you know, if Fox had
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  the game or if CBS had the game or anybody had the game, I got
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  to believe that it would just be a massive, massive number.
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  Do we do? Does everybody have Amazon now?
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  Did we do well? Was it Amazon was Prime, right?
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  Yeah, I mean, not everybody, but the numbers are significant.
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  Are they continuing? I I would think that this,
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  that's a question. More people certainly have Prime
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  than DIRECTV. More people have Prime than
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  cable. I would anticipate.
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  Yeah. I don't know.
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  Now, if you put all the systems across, let's see what the
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  Google machine has to say. How many people do you think in
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  America have Amazon Prime? You're asking me.
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  Yeah, I have the wrong guy to ask.
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  I have no idea. Let's see.
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  Let's see how many Americans have Amazon Prime?
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  Early estimates in 2025, almost 200 million Americans.
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  You're kidding. Have a Amazon Prime membership.
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  See why they And that means you can get TV on the Amazon Prime
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  membership. If you do, you automatically get
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  it. 200 million is 72 to 75% of the adult population.
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  Wild. Yeah.
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  Think things are changing? Yeah.
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  No kidding. There is another example for
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  you. How about that?
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  Well, fascinating football game. All right, let's leave that one.
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  What was the second best game of the weekend, which moved your
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  needle more than any of the others?
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  Was it Josh Allen doing with Josh?
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  I mean, that that push. Push for 10 yards?
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  Come on, get rid of it, right, idiot, get rid of it.
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  But just I mean, nobody gets 10 yards on a tush push other than
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  Josh Allen. This team has so many injuries,
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  but he's so much fun to watch. I find myself rooting for him
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  just because of the way that it ended the ball tip.
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  I have Riams Carolina, I guess in front of that by a tick.
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  But two the Bills Jaguars game Jacksonville.
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  That team's good enough to make a run.
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  They were Buffalo goes in there. I just Lee and Cohen who I like
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  and I think good solid coach. Apparently there's a reporter in
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  the press conference after the game that likes them too.
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  Did you hear that? Come on that was I I got Jaguars
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  fanatic.com. Is that who?
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  No, it wasn't. It was somebody from like it was
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  like AI think a Jacksonville public something about right
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  with Jacksonville. Why aren't they just running the
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  ball? They could get when they went
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  outside zone, they're getting 8 yards of pop and they went away
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  from it. And they talk about second
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  guessing. I mean, that's first guessing
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  there. Run the ball.
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  The Buffalo Bills could do nothing defensively to slow them
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  down. And when we get to next week's,
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  and that's their weakness. Buffalo cannot stop the run, run
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  the ball. But Denver has no running backs.
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  Yeah, they got RJ Harvey, good pass catcher, bad, bad, bad.
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  Carrying the football that that's an edge.
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  That's a huge edge. You can run the ball on the
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  Bills. We shall see.
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  Rams, Carolina to get. It's fascinating.
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  It really was a good game. I found myself at the end, even
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  though I'm heavily invested in the Rams and have North
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  Carolina, I kind of want Carolina to win.
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  Oh, absolutely. You know, what a great story how
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  that this team is, is doing what they're doing.
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  And I was kind of disappointed Carolina didn't win the football
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  game, to be honest. How the Eagles lose.
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  Well, it's what we've seen all season, offense.
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  I go back to that first game of the year.
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  Something was off. Then something's off in January.
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  It's the same thing that we had. Brown has to be done in Philly.
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  Oh, absolutely, yeah, has to be done.
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  I mean, you saw Siriani get into it on the sidelines with him.
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  And no sooner had who did the game, Burkhart.
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  Burkhart just said something about hadn't hadn't caught a
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  pass since the first half right in his hands in a huge spot in
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  the football game goes right through them and onto the turf
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  and and Brock Purdy unbelievable.
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  George Kittle. Sadly, you could just see that
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  that Achilles rolling up the back of his calf and Oh my God,
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  those injuries, those injuries you got about how about killer.
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  I was about to say that How about Kittle This one will go
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  down in George Kittle or George Kittle or and 49ers lore.
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  The time that one of their best players got hurt and had the
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  somebody bring down a bottle of tequila, it wasn't just that it
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  was York, the owner, the owner and said is there anything,
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  anything that I could do? And normally you hear that if
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  you've had anything in your life and you.
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  No, I'm fine. Yeah.
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  Bring me a bottle of tequila. And they did.
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  And not just anybody. Yeah.
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  This was not Jose Cuervo. No, it was Patron, right.
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  I think it was Patron. It was like a special label.
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  Was it really. Is that 40 bucks that you get a
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  high V liquor? No.
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  Hey, by the way, I know this guy takes a lot of Flack and.
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  And you certainly shoveled your did you see Mccaskey when one of
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  the bears, who was it that got injured running down the tunnel
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  to catch up with him? Oh, no, I yes.
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  And they and they broadcast actually pointed him up.
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  There goes George Mccaskey running who wasn't the God, it
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  was Edwards. Oh, OK, Actually follow him
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  underneath the bowels, the Soldier Field to get in there
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  and talk to him. That's pretty cool.
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  I mean, that's that's a little class.
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  Be a better owner. But yeah, well, OK.
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  But but still, he got that one right.
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  And you, you know, you got to give a little credit for that
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  one, right? A couple of minutes on college
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  hoops. Iowa State did what Iowa State
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  does. They start slow.
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  Yeah. But then you know what, by the
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  time that you hit the the second immediate time out, they've got
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  things figured out. And the way they go and the way
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  they went again, as we kind of talked about that Oklahoma State
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  team a lot better. Yes, they are.
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  They've they've they've improved their Medal of the Pack Big 12
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  kids. I want to see them in the
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  tournament. Yeah, I want to see that team.
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  And then maybe it's Dayton, but I want to see him there.
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  Yeah. I think that's a good spot for
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  them getting back to the tournament.
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  A proud program team that I mean, historically saw so many
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  great games. It's sad, but unfortunately
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  that's turned into with basketball and undertaking a lot
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  of the basketball fans certainly away from Oklahoma State.
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  But yeah, that was a good team. And I was I walked away
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  impressed by them, but did too, as always, walk away more
• 17:40
  impressed by Iowa State as we do every single time because they
• 17:44
  just find it's not like they could pull away from this
• 17:46
  outfit, you know what I mean? It was it was kind of nip and
• 17:48
  tuck. They won by double digits.
• 17:50
  I think the number was what, 18? They get.
• 17:51
  They won by a dozen, but the end of the day, they're 16 and O in
• 17:55
  Michigan going down. Yes, how about that?
• 17:58
  I thought this team had a chance to get through it unscathed, but
• 18:01
  no, that wasn't the case. All starters for Iowa State and
• 18:03
  double figures that was. That was one of my takeaways
• 18:08
  from the game on. Tilovich making shot after shot,
• 18:10
  Lipsy doing what he does and, and well done.
• 18:14
  And, and you know what Plead is really every time I watch him
• 18:16
  play, he takes another step seemingly forward, right?
• 18:19
  All right, let's get to, let's get to Iowa.
• 18:22
  And how many, how big concern is there with Bennett Sturtz right
• 18:26
  now? What he's going through,
• 18:27
  obviously he's going to have the target, right?
• 18:29
  When you scout to stop Iowa, you find, you find Sturtz first and
• 18:32
  foremost. OK, let's stop #14 And as we
• 18:35
  talked about leading into the game, Boswell's a tremendous
• 18:37
  defender. You saw that.
• 18:39
  And when they played great defenses, Bennett Sturtz has
• 18:41
  been terrible. He was awful.
• 18:44
  Nothing short of awful. You got to lay up to make it a 2
• 18:46
  point game. You miss it, you're Hocking up
• 18:48
  threes that are awful. In fact, they played their best
• 18:50
  basketball. He was on the bench, he was
• 18:52
  sitting on that bench. That's when I will play.
• 18:54
  By far their best stretch of basketball.
• 18:57
  When he wasn't out there, you couple that with on the
• 18:59
  defensive end, he's lost. He's absolutely brutal on that
• 19:03
  end of the floor. You talk about a guy that was
• 19:05
  heightened preseason, All American.
• 19:07
  This guy's going to be better, better than Braden Smith.
• 19:09
  No, not even close. This has been, he's still in the
• 19:12
  teens in next year's NBA draft. I wonder where this thing's all
• 19:15
  said and done where he'll be. Not a team that I wanted to see
• 19:18
  draft because that guy, the guy that we've seen in big moments
• 19:21
  this year, he has not been that guy.
• 19:23
  So let me ask you about Tate Sage.
• 19:24
  I know he came off the bench because he had an illness and
• 19:28
  apparently he was working his way through the locker room.
• 19:30
  Is that something, do you think that McCullum, will it mean does
• 19:33
  he come off the bench going forward?
• 19:35
  Does he get us started 'cause I thought he was really good.
• 19:38
  I thought he was really good. I thought Banks was Banks.
• 19:40
  Banks came off the bench. Both of both of them did.
• 19:42
  Who was sick? Banks was sick.
• 19:43
  Banks was sick. Banks was sick.
• 19:45
  I wonder if if if that if that's going to be status quo going
• 19:49
  forward or does he go back into the starting lineup?
• 19:52
  I've told you before. I mean they don't stay in the
• 19:53
  game against Minnesota without Kale Combs.
• 19:55
  I'm just not a huge Combs guy. I would be at the point where
• 19:59
  I'm ready Combs out. Yeah and Seymour Tate Sage in
• 20:01
  there him start at the two guard and go that direction and see if
• 20:04
  I think Underwood actually was the one that didn't he bring up
• 20:08
  Sage in the press conference the post game?
• 20:10
  I think he did. In a positive.
• 20:12
  Oh absolutely you know yeah there's not many negatives that
• 20:15
  you can have but you're a home you get 6 free throws in front
• 20:18
  of 13,500 and change which was good to see you have everything
• 20:23
  in front of you you come out lethargic again OK they're sick.
• 20:28
  How long does this excuse last It came up the Minnesota game
• 20:31
  now it's here now here you go to Purdue get an IV all right so
• 20:35
  they're going to get blow up by Purdue.
• 20:37
  They're sick here they go to Indiana this this is trending
• 20:40
  disappointing because yes there are plenty of very winnable
• 20:43
  games in front of them after this two game road trip out to
• 20:45
  Indiana. What are the quality where the
• 20:48
  quality wins are they beating Nebraska No are they beating
• 20:52
  Purdue No no. Where's the quality win coming
• 20:55
  from? They're going to Madison and
• 20:58
  winning. Well, that would that would look
• 21:00
  better now based on this past weekend, but even that's not an
• 21:02
  elite level win. Yes, there's a lot of victories
• 21:04
  in there. This resume, if it plays out in
• 21:06
  this fashion because the advanced metrics still like this
• 21:09
  team. I still say this is a top 20
• 21:11
  2014 bubble team trend. Yeah, I'm not saying that this
• 21:14
  team is missing the NC double AI don't think that's going to
• 21:16
  happen. I think the metrics are going to
• 21:18
  have them in, but at what level to win a couple of games not not
• 21:23
  the team that we're seeing now. The Iowa women had a huge
• 21:28
  comeback. Now, I didn't see it.
• 21:30
  I didn't see a minute of it. But apparently fear back back in
• 21:32
  the lineup. And how big of a difference was
• 21:33
  that? She was huge.
• 21:34
  It was what she did. Defense, yes, her defensive and
• 21:37
  that's what she is. Yeah, she had one big shot in
• 21:39
  there. But most importantly, it's what
• 21:41
  she does on that end of the floor and her ability to lock up
• 21:45
  on that end of the floor. So Indiana not very good this
• 21:48
  year, took a step back, still skilled offensively for the most
• 21:51
  part. And a big reason is because they
• 21:53
  got the top scorer in the in the Big 10 and sees it.
• 21:57
  Siski who went off in the first half, she finished one of 11 her
• 22:01
  last eleven shots from the floor and fear Bob was a big part of
• 22:04
  that. How about that?
• 22:05
  She was tremendous. They got going a little bit and
• 22:08
  chitchat had a huge 3 in there. She's so fun to watch.
• 22:11
  She's absolutely tremendous. So fun to watch.
• 22:13
  And another one where she didn't look great at moments but came
• 22:16
  up with a big shot. So Iowa finds a way.
• 22:18
  Their schedule is going to get much more difficult as well.
• 22:21
  And with Iowa State, with the Eddie Brown injury, I wonder.
• 22:24
  Right. Three in a row and not even in
• 22:28
  it. No.
• 22:29
  Against a West Virginia team again, that's also K Yeah.
• 22:32
  But coupled with the Cincinnati loss, you wonder this team we
• 22:35
  were talking about, Bill Fedley's best team.
• 22:38
  And for a while they looked like that.
• 22:40
  Without Eddie Brown, No, this team's going to be going back
• 22:43
  the other way or, you know, mid level seed, get to the
• 22:45
  tournament, maybe win a game. Yeah, that's about it.
• 22:48
  Because even crooks, she can't do it alone.
• 22:50
  I mean, she's she's not the type of player that can just.
• 22:53
  I'm gonna bring it up. She's gonna run everything.
• 22:54
  She didn't take a shot in the third quarter.
• 22:55
  That's crazy. That's crazy.
• 22:57
  Yeah. Alright, we'll take a time out.
• 22:59
  Scott Dockerman joins us next. We'll get his thoughts just real
• 23:03
  quick. It's 'cause it's Friday night.
• 23:05
  It's a couple of days behind us now.
• 23:07
  This Indiana team, I mean, how do you beat them?
• 23:09
  You know, I don't think you do either.
• 23:11
  No. Is it over?
• 23:12
  Would you late? Unless you complete a screen
• 23:13
  pass, then you beat them. But you can extate him.
• 23:16
  That's a different guy. That is true.
• 23:21
  Would you lay the half? Yeah, I think I'd be, too. 13
• 23:24
  1/2. I'm.
• 23:25
  I'm with you. I might lay 20 1/2.
• 23:28
  Miami. Nice story and basically a home
• 23:31
  game for Miami. But it won't be.
• 23:33
  No, because Indiana's going to take over.
• 23:35
  Yeah, it was 9010. Estimates of 9010 in terms of
• 23:38
  percentages of fans at the Beach Bowl.
• 23:40
  Wild. I get Oregon.
• 23:41
  It's a long ways. One more on Mccaskey.
• 23:43
  I know we don't like them. Apparently he was paying for
• 23:47
  everybody's Uber. Did you see this?
• 23:49
  So it's about time. Well, I mean, how many owners do
• 23:51
  that though? Well, it's been 70 years of
• 23:53
  them. You think Jerry Jones is friend
• 23:55
  for Ubers? Probably maybe they do and don't
• 23:58
  get. But I just thought, wow, that's
• 24:01
  two things I got to bring up with TC and knock him down a peg
• 24:05
  because we got a lot of scar tissue here to breakthrough
• 24:07
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• 25:00
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• 25:04
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• 25:07
  Let's get Scott Dockerman in here.
• 25:09
  He was a Carver yesterday. He's also a Bears fan.
• 25:11
  We should probably start there. By the way, gentlemen, were you
• 25:14
  surprised that they broke the Alex Bregman news right in the
• 25:16
  middle of the Bears game? Yes, Wasn't Did that strike?
• 25:19
  He was odd, Doc. A little bit, yeah.
• 25:22
  I mean. But you know, baseball is its
• 25:25
  own end sometimes. I remember when I used to cover
• 25:28
  it, and this is a long time ago, 20 plus years ago.
• 25:30
  And it's just like. It kind of doesn't know that
• 25:33
  anything else be outside of it exists, but but the heck of a
• 25:37
  night in Chicago, that's for. Sure, absolutely.
• 25:39
  So Trent grabbed the bottle halfway to start the
• 25:42
  second-half. He cracked the bottle.
• 25:43
  How? Well, what were you thinking is
• 25:45
  the second-half kick off was about to ensue?
• 25:48
  I went the other way around. I was drinking in the first half
• 25:51
  and I figured it wasn't working, so yeah.
• 25:52
  We worked together. Put us.
• 25:54
  I went to Diet Pepsi after that and it worked.
• 25:57
  Put a slug in the jug. Good stuff.
• 25:58
  Well, I want to obviously talk a lot of college football with you
• 26:01
  as we're down to the championship game, but let's
• 26:03
  start with Carver yesterday. You know what, Doc?
• 26:06
  It's been really good to see and and I hope it continues and I
• 26:09
  hope it builds because it and it's going to by the looks of
• 26:12
  things, it's going to take some time.
• 26:13
  But you've been in Carver a bunch over the years when it was
• 26:16
  banged out and to see it, you know, the fans kind of move away
• 26:20
  as they have done. It's nice to see that they're at
• 26:23
  least willing to give this new product to try.
• 26:25
  I hope it sustains and actually build because you know, it is
• 26:29
  obviously as all buildings are, it's a different building, a
• 26:32
  different environment when the fan base is behind the team.
• 26:36
  Yeah, for sure. I mean, there was there was a
• 26:38
  juncture when Iowa was thinking a comeback and and, and this was
• 26:41
  only the second time I'd actually been to a basketball
• 26:44
  game this year. I went to his debut at home.
• 26:47
  And and then this one just cause it's in between the, the the
• 26:51
  games that I'm covering for football.
• 26:52
  But he and you know, there's a juncture where it it didn't
• 26:58
  leave any of the action on the floor, didn't leave 100
• 27:02
  decibels. It was all above it.
• 27:04
  And I thought, OK, this is a this is a little bit different
• 27:07
  era. I mean, the vibes were
• 27:08
  different. The music in the arena is
• 27:10
  different. And some people don't like it
• 27:12
  because it's not as traditional. I think it's more modern.
• 27:15
  And I think it's more important that to kind of cater to that.
• 27:18
  And and I felt like the crowd was into it all the way up to
• 27:22
  the very, very end when I realized it couldn't happen.
• 27:25
  I didn't see people scattering for the exits at the under four
• 27:28
  time out the way they have in the past.
• 27:30
  And and I think that's really healthy for this fan base.
• 27:33
  It's it's taking some time. There's been a lot of apathy
• 27:36
  and, and understandably so. And, and, you know, yesterday
• 27:39
  they were playing a better team. Illinois is better than Iowa.
• 27:42
  You know, maybe at the end of the year, Iowa figures out a way
• 27:44
  to beat an Illinois in the Big 10 tournament or something.
• 27:46
  But as of right now, Illinois is a better team.
• 27:49
  Iowa is a good team, but Iowa still learning to work together.
• 27:52
  You can tell on offense that things just sometimes aren't
• 27:55
  working right, that, that people are going different directions
• 27:59
  and, and that needs to be fixed. I think it'll, it will take
• 28:02
  time. But otherwise, I, I, I do think
• 28:05
  that it's, it's building something.
• 28:06
  And that's something that, you know, a year ago at this time,
• 28:09
  we knew that it was flatlining. I definitely had and now you
• 28:12
  have at least a renewed sense of optimism and and going forward.
• 28:16
  There were stretches in this game, though, they just didn't
• 28:18
  play well and not doing things there was.
• 28:20
  I'm not sure if you had a chance to see it as you were brought a
• 28:22
  watching the game there in person, but on the broadcast
• 28:25
  they had McCullum in the huddle. He's imploring, begging his
• 28:29
  guys. Just can you just listen to what
• 28:31
  we're trying to tell you guys to do?
• 28:32
  They're going underneath the screens.
• 28:34
  They get off to another slow start here.
• 28:36
  It didn't feel like they were locked in.
• 28:38
  Is it the illness? Is that the reason?
• 28:40
  Or is there something else where reveries in this team just
• 28:42
  doesn't seem real, locked in like they had been in different
• 28:45
  parts in December? Couple of things.
• 28:48
  I mean, you know, and again, I'm not quite the expert I once was
• 28:51
  on this, but from what I can tell, you know, early on, I
• 28:55
  mean, you're, you're down 20 to 5 and this is not the team you
• 28:58
  want to be down 20 to 5 against. Illinois is very skilled and
• 29:03
  they're they're connected. And I was not connected.
• 29:05
  And I think that they haven't all embraced every single
• 29:11
  teaching aspect that Ben McCollum is is pushing for.
• 29:14
  And and Ben, one of the things I realized after the game and
• 29:18
  listening to him, I don't know that I've ever seen a coach that
• 29:22
  just knows the game so well inside and out as Ben McCollum.
• 29:27
  He is, you know, it's been described to me previously that
• 29:29
  he's like a salon to basketball. And there been NBA coaches who
• 29:33
  consult him on things and you can tell that he understands so
• 29:37
  much of it. But the players themselves
• 29:39
  aren't taking that the scout and applying it to the floor.
• 29:44
  And, and I think that's something that's that's got to
• 29:46
  be troubling. And I think a couple other
• 29:48
  things. You know, when you know, you
• 29:50
  know, you choose not to play Brandon, you know Hassan, you
• 29:53
  know that illness is a part of it and you're playing against a
• 29:55
  really good team that you just can't have some mistakes.
• 29:59
  And and then there were easy shots that they missed.
• 30:02
  And when you're down, you've got to make those.
• 30:04
  And all that being said, you know, I, I still think that
• 30:07
  there are miles ahead of where they were last year at this time
• 30:10
  on the floor. And I, and I think, you know
• 30:13
  that this week they play Purdue. I know that's going to be a
• 30:15
  really big challenge over at Mackey, but I still think this
• 30:18
  team's got a chance to to make the tournament and be very
• 30:21
  competitive once they reach it. Well, let's get to the national
• 30:25
  championship game as we're down to one game.
• 30:27
  Speaking of competitive Dock, I just I'm almost at the point
• 30:30
  that I that I'm hoping it's competitive.
• 30:32
  I just I just watched this Indiana a wagon go up and down.
• 30:36
  It's just it's remarkable to watch.
• 30:39
  Obviously, I don't you know, I don't know how how many
• 30:42
  different ways we can come up with, you know, some way to say
• 30:44
  we've never we can't believe that this Signeti has been able
• 30:48
  to do this as quickly as he has. Mendoza is is unbelievably
• 30:52
  accurate. He gets the ball out so damn
• 30:54
  quickly. He can run it if he has to.
• 30:57
  Doc. I just fear that that the
• 30:59
  national championship game on Monday night, it is going to be
• 31:03
  not a walk over. But I, I just can't see it being
• 31:06
  competitive. Doc, I hope I'm wrong.
• 31:09
  But yeah, there's some things that you could lean on, which is
• 31:14
  if you want to take individual talent into consideration, Miami
• 31:18
  has more individual talent. I mean, I think they have more
• 31:22
  guys who are going to play at the NFL level or at least get
• 31:26
  drafted there then probably Indiana does.
• 31:27
  But when you look at the way they play in every single
• 31:31
  aspect, I mean, there is no weakness on that team.
• 31:33
  It's not like, well, we can run the ball on Indiana and then no,
• 31:37
  you can't do that. You can't run, you can't pass.
• 31:39
  They could pass at will. They find your weaknesses and
• 31:43
  exploited. I mean, I I was blown away how
• 31:47
  how much they attacked the boundary the left side of of
• 31:50
  their offense in in the first couple of drives is like Oregon
• 31:53
  just didn't even realize it or something.
• 31:55
  It was, you know, whether it was the run or the past, it was just
• 31:58
  constant. And and as you said, Mendoza is
• 32:01
  a difference maker because he has he could throw at any angle
• 32:05
  anywhere on the on the field, you know, right hash to the left
• 32:09
  sideline just has an amazing, you know, gun.
• 32:11
  And I, I talked to the Alabama safety who's pretty good, Bray
• 32:15
  Hubbard. And, and I asked him about
• 32:17
  watching him and he's like, you know, he made a throw in the
• 32:19
  Iowa game that just blew me away.
• 32:21
  And he was describing just how, you know, it was kind of down
• 32:24
  the field, across the field. And I mean, that's such a hard
• 32:27
  angle. Threw it into, you know, single
• 32:30
  or double high safety look and still was there.
• 32:33
  And it's just how remarkable he is.
• 32:36
  And then you throw on, you know, offensive lines to connected it.
• 32:40
  But with Miami, they do have talent and they have, you know,
• 32:43
  they're at home. They've got, you know, some
• 32:45
  pluses there, but I, I just boil it down to coaching And I, I
• 32:51
  mean, I'll take courtesy that against anybody, but especially
• 32:53
  against Mario Cristobal, who's, you know, I, I thought the other
• 32:57
  day against old miss, I thought, oh, miss, you know, played hard,
• 33:01
  but Miami had the ball for 41 minutes and barely won.
• 33:05
  I just, I think that, you know, Indiana's a superiorly coached
• 33:11
  team and I can't say the same about Miami.
• 33:13
  Indiana went out there, they brought in veterans with them
• 33:16
  from James Madison guys with multiple years of eligibility.
• 33:19
  They had influx of cash that has helped and certainly that
• 33:22
  continues. And Mark you've been donating
• 33:23
  more money to the football program still the sustainability
• 33:26
  of it looks like they're doing great in the portal.
• 33:29
  Can this continue? Are we going to be talking about
• 33:31
  now on a yearly process that Indiana, we got to start off the
• 33:34
  you're talking about them as national championship
• 33:36
  contenders. I don't know that you start off
• 33:39
  talking about them every year as national title contenders, but I
• 33:42
  think you start you, you add them to the conversation.
• 33:45
  I think they are perennial top 10 caliber team now.
• 33:48
  And you know, quarterbacks going to matter.
• 33:51
  And in some years they're going to strike out a little bit in
• 33:52
  the portal. And, and I, I think you, the 1
• 33:55
  area that they still need to catch up on is, is actual
• 33:58
  recruiting. You know, freshman, I mean,
• 34:00
  they're not getting four and five stars.
• 34:02
  They're not being able to beat in Ohio State or Michigan or
• 34:05
  some of those teams for those elite level prospects.
• 34:08
  And that does catch up with you. But I think you look at Indiana
• 34:11
  and you say with that coaching staff, with the players they get
• 34:15
  from the portal, the way they develop these athletes, there's
• 34:18
  no reason that, you know, an 8, an 8 and 4 would be the basement
• 34:23
  of what they can do at this level.
• 34:25
  And and, you know, they look to me like they're going to be a
• 34:28
  perennial 10 and two type of team, which means that they're
• 34:31
  capable of getting into the tournament every year.
• 34:33
  So Indiana is it's just, it's a remarkable story.
• 34:37
  And in some ways we haven't discussed it enough.
• 34:39
  In some ways it feels like we've talked about it too much.
• 34:41
  But it's it's just unbelievable. I mean, KU football would be the
• 34:45
  one equivalent I would have to Indiana, but but even then, KU's
• 34:51
  had a little bit of spikes. Indiana never did.
• 34:54
  No, that's that's an excellent point.
• 34:56
  Loved your piece on the comparison because for me, 2019
• 35:00
  LSU with all the talent they had on that football game, in
• 35:03
  particular in Joe Burrow, who I still think to this day is the
• 35:06
  best quarterback in the NFLI. Know I'm going to get pushed
• 35:08
  back on that, but I love them. Obviously those two receivers,
• 35:11
  they had some incredible guys on the defensive side of the
• 35:15
  football. I I, I know it's impossible to
• 35:18
  do Doc. You just make your case on paper
• 35:20
  and let the audience decide. But those are the two certainly
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  above recent ilk that I think would match up best against each
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  other because I mean, obviously I think there's a huge edge in
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  there when it comes to head coach and everybody loves order
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  on. But the Signeti story is
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  unbelievable. What what was behind the piece
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  Doc and kind of what was I guess your takeaways from doing it
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  yourself? Yeah, that was.
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  Kind of one of my editors and I talked about that on, you know,
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  after the game. So I put it together pretty
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  quickly, but. This, I think what anybody.
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  Asks, you know, what is most dominant team we've seen in
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  recent memory and it's been LSU and and the offense, I mean 61
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  touchdowns from Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase and Justin
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  Jefferson, what an offense that was.
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  It was unbelievable. But you know that this Indiana
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  team is putting itself in that similar category with how
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  dominant it is now. It doesn't have the offensive
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  explosiveness. Nobody does.
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  But when you look at the the full picture, they're way better
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  on defense and and they're pretty explosive on offense too.
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  And both of them had the Heisman Trophy winner.
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  But you know, I, I would expect Fernando Mendoza to be the
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  number one pick in the NFL draft and Joe Burrow is I, I'm with
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  you. I, I think he's tremendous and I
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  think he's being wasted in Cincinnati.
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  Injuries have hurt him, But I think it's Cincinnati, the most
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  poorly run organization in NFL, if not all pro sports.
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  And, and I think with Fernando Mendoza, you know, he goes the
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  Raiders, I would assume that's probably where he'll end up.
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  I mean, he'll have some lumps too.
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  But man, comparing those two and that those two teams, I mean,
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  it'd be fun. I, I, it would be a definite
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  shoot out. I don't think that, you know,
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  because I don't know that even Indiana has the DBS that can
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  match up, you know, down and down out with with Chase and
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  Jefferson, but they do have the offense to keep up.
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  And so I would expect that to be a high scoring football game.
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  Doc, in our final minute here, Iowa, how we come full circle,
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  Iowa football portal, Kirk doing some work in there.
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  What have you seen and is there a guy or two that you like
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  that's going to help out this Iowa team for 2026?
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  I really like it. I'm, I'm kind of surprised how
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  well I like it because, you know, they went to the FCS
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  ranks, but they didn't just grab guys.
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  I mean, they grabbed all Americans.
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  There's three, you know, all Americans from FCS and then
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  there's three freshmen all Americans.
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  So you in the way that they did it, they've only got what, one
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  or two that only have one year. The rest of them have kind of,
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  you know, multi years. And I think when you look at
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  that, that's, that's a really sound smart strategy.
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  And I, I, I've seen a couple people kind of laugh.
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  Oh, they all they did was go get FCS guys.
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  Well, go look at Indiana's roster.
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  You know, you get James Madison and there's not much difference
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  between them and a Villanova and you know, those types of teams
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  and and oh, by the way, Cam Ward, the number one overall
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  pick last year from Miami, he was from Incarnate word.
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  Jared Verse was Albany before he went to Florida State.
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  So I I think it's, it's a smart it's a smart strategy.
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  They've got a couple more holes, but but you know, they've really
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  done some work and I think it's something that that will pay off
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  for them this year. Enjoy.
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  Florida Doc, thanks for doing this.
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  Appreciate you coming on as always.
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  Thank you, Scott. Dr. Man.
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  Thanks. Much appreciate it.
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  Good to talk to you, Scott Dockerman as we check in on doc
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  from the Athletic. Love that piece. 2019 LSU.
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  Boy, they had some dudes, didn't they?
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  Yes, they did. God come back, wrap up our
• 38:45
  number one and that might he may be the other team, Miami of Todd
• 38:49
  Seaver's team, the O2 teams, was it O2 or O1, whatever.
• 38:52
  Well, the O2 won, won the national championship.
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  The O2 team I think maybe had more talent.
• 38:57
  Unbelievable. Miller and Condon glad you're
• 38:59
  with us on the Iowa Sports Radio Network.
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  Hi, Miller Condon, welcome back Iowa Sports Radio Network with
• 39:15
  you here until 2:00. Bill Seals on Iowa State coming
• 39:18
  up to kick off our number one. Well, Iowa State's got a big
• 39:21
  when we kept referring to this when we looked ahead schedule to
• 39:24
  see if they could, you know, make it through January
• 39:27
  unscathed. We both thought that they could
• 39:29
  and both pointed out tomorrow's game against Kansas obviously as
• 39:32
  the maybe the most difficult. I'm not so sure.
• 39:35
  Kansas is not playing well. Bill Self said last week,
• 39:38
  before, I think it was before the West Virginia game, guys
• 39:41
  don't know how to play with Darren Peterson.
• 39:43
  Darren Peterson doesn't know how to play with those guys.
• 39:45
  I will put this in there, though, Historically doesn't
• 39:48
  happen often, but it's been a rarity.
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  But when it does happen, Kansas, a home underdog as they will be,
• 39:54
  and they are elite. Are they?
• 39:56
  Yes, and they will be a dog at home tomorrow.
• 39:58
  Remember a couple years ago they took on UConn that went on to
• 40:01
  win a national championship. Yes, yes, yes.
• 40:03
  I think there's been one or two Houston teams that have gone
• 40:05
  down there as dogs here recently.
• 40:07
  A member was a Saturday game. There have been a few of those,
• 40:10
  though. When it does happen, Kansas is
• 40:13
  normally great in this spot. So everything we've seen,
• 40:16
  everything our eyes tell us state's going to cruise in this
• 40:19
  one. Kansas Stakes.
• 40:22
  Just historically, this has been an Ave. where The Jayhawks
• 40:26
  definitely going to be good. Ken Palm has it A5.
• 40:29
  Do they? That's just why it's probably
• 40:30
  going to be a smidge down. They're one and two in the Big
• 40:33
  12. I mean, that's just hard to
• 40:34
  fathom at Kansas and they just were Peterson played a ton
• 40:38
  against West Virginia. They just never could get West
• 40:41
  Virginia just looked better than them.
• 40:43
  I mean, just think of that. There's times that shoot the
• 40:45
  lights out. You upset a team.
• 40:47
  West Virginia. Good teams have struggled in
• 40:49
  Morgantown, absolutely. But just in general, this Kansas
• 40:52
  team, No, you're right. There's something, not
• 40:54
  something's missing. Yeah.
• 40:55
  And is it just the Peterson thing?
• 40:57
  Is there more tumult than just a guy that's been banged up and
• 40:59
  has been injured with that hamstring injury?
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  Is there more growing on there? Everybody gets good players now.
• 41:04
  Maybe part of that. It's a very similar to
• 41:06
  conversation to the SEC in football and Kansas basketball,
• 41:10
  isn't it ours? Agree.
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  It really is our number 2 more and I will stay with Bill Seals.
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  Bama Bob will join us. So will Mr. Monday night as he
• 41:18
  looks down to bring down the curtain with another winning
• 41:22
  night. Miller and Condon, glad you're
• 41:24
  with us. We're talking sports with you on
• 41:26
  the Iowa Sports Radio Network.