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Sean O'Connell Show - Full POD 5-29-26 · The Sean O'Connell Show

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Speaker 4: Today we've got the airing of grievances and we'll be
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Speaker 4: along the way today as we keep you up to
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Speaker 4: date on everything that's happening. So we're the home of
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Speaker 4: the Utes, and back in December, we reported like everyone
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Speaker 4: else did on this deal that the University of Utah
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Speaker 4: and Otro Capital had come to in order to to
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Speaker 4: shore up the competitive efforts of the University of Utah
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Speaker 4: athletic department through an infusion of capital from Outro Capital,
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Speaker 4: which is a private equity firm. A private equity partnership
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Speaker 4: like this first of its kind in pro sports, in
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Speaker 4: pro sports, in college sports. Interestingly enough, we are six
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Speaker 4: months on from when the announcement came and the deal
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Speaker 4: has not yet been finalized because of course, there's a
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Speaker 4: lot of complicated issues here. There's a lot of red
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Speaker 4: tape involved, and we're talking about an athletic department associated
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Speaker 4: with a public university that now is well coming in
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Speaker 4: private capital. There's gonna be a lot of people that
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Speaker 4: have a lot to say about that, and you're gonna
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Speaker 4: have to make sure that you go through everything, every line,
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Speaker 4: every word with a fine toothcomb and you analyze here.
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Speaker 4: Got to give a shout out to the Salt Lake
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Speaker 4: Tribune and our guy Jason Battakilt. He is he's a
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Speaker 4: young buck, and he's done a heck of a job
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Speaker 4: on the utes beat. He's done a heck of a
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Speaker 4: job on Utah athletics. Here's another interesting piece the state auditor, which,
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Speaker 4: if I'm being fully transparent, I did not know was
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Speaker 4: a position that we had.
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Speaker 3: I'm not overly political.
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Speaker 4: As I've said, you could probably throw a bunch of
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Speaker 4: state titles government jobs at me and ask me true
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Speaker 4: or false this is a real job. I would get
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Speaker 4: most of them wrong, I think. But the State Auditor
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Speaker 4: has gone through the agreement and has red flagged some things,
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Speaker 4: has brought up some concerns about what this Ultro Capital
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Speaker 4: deal is supposed to be or what is going to be.
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Speaker 4: I've had some conversations behind the scenes that are a
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Speaker 4: lot more optimistic about what this capital deal is going
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Speaker 4: to be for the University of Utah. But I think
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Speaker 4: it's important to note that because this is unprecedented, because
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Speaker 4: this is something that has not existed in college sports previously,
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Speaker 4: it's hard to know exactly what to expect. It's hard
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Speaker 4: to know exactly how to react to the fine print,
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Speaker 4: to the particulars of this deal. The State Auditor sent
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Speaker 4: a letter to the Utah Board of Trustees the University
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Speaker 4: of Utah Board of Trustees seeing outlining significant risks with
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Speaker 4: the school's pending deal with Ultro Capital. The infusion of
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Speaker 4: millions of dollars potentially worth the capital will, according to
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Speaker 4: the State Auditor be inevitably depleted unless Utah's long term
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Speaker 4: financial issues are resolved.
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Speaker 3: According to the state auditor.
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Speaker 4: There's no currently observable plan to decrease spending. And this
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Speaker 4: is where college athletics is at an impasse. With programs
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Speaker 4: exactly the size of the University of Utah's program right,
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Speaker 4: the U is in a situation that is as tenuous
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Speaker 4: as difficult to manage as anyone else. Let me explain
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Speaker 4: that if you're at Alabama, if you're at Ohio State,
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Speaker 4: if you're at Michigan.
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Speaker 3: Dare I say it?
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Speaker 4: If you're at Miami, you're not sitting here worried about
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Speaker 4: the future because you're not operating year over year at
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Speaker 4: a deficit, or even if there are deficits in maybe
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Speaker 4: a couple of years, there is a path forward where
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Speaker 4: you say, well, when we eliminate the spending of this
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Speaker 4: new facility we put up, or when we factor out
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Speaker 4: the payments that we had to do here, I've got
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Speaker 4: seventy five million dollars coming in from a television deal,
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Speaker 4: so we're going to be okay the revenue associated with that,
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Speaker 4: even though we have to split off twenty million for
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Speaker 4: our student athletes we're still going to be okay, right.
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Speaker 4: There are a precious few athletic departments that don't have
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Speaker 4: anything to worry about in the old part of college
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Speaker 4: sports and also in this new era of college sports.
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Speaker 4: And you know who those precious few are. They're the
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Speaker 4: ones that ESPN's talking about every single day. They're the
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Speaker 4: ones that are pushing for and advocating for a bunch
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Speaker 4: of the things that you might or may not like
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Speaker 4: in college sports in terms of reform, change, scheduling, etc.
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Speaker 4: There are the power players, and Utah is in this
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Speaker 4: really tough spot where you are expected to compete with them,
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Speaker 4: where you are invited to sit with them in the
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Speaker 4: high school lunch cafeteria sometimes. But when it comes to
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Speaker 4: the revenue and when it comes to the money that
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Speaker 4: your athletic program has at its disposal, there's a gap.
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Speaker 3: Right. It's a really difficult place to be.
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Speaker 4: And Mark Harlin, President Randall, the Utah athletic department at large,
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Speaker 4: has been given the task of, well, let's find a
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Speaker 4: way to close that gap without the money to close it.
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Speaker 3: Let's find a way to close the.
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Speaker 4: Competitive gap, to keep it closed, to hang on tight
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Speaker 4: to this accelerating leader that's running away from you. You
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Speaker 4: got to find a way to stay in their hip pocket.
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Speaker 4: You got to find a way to stay at least
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Speaker 4: in a position or coming around the final bend of
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Speaker 4: a football season or a basketball season or gymnastics season,
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Speaker 4: you can make your sprint and you can find yourself
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Speaker 4: at least at the finish line in the photo.
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Speaker 3: Finish with these people.
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Speaker 4: So Utah has had to what they've had to spend
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Speaker 4: their way into that conversation, and not all the spending
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Speaker 4: has been good. You will never be able to convince
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Speaker 4: me that having to pay a buy out to Kyle
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Speaker 4: Whittingham while he also collects checks from the University of
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Speaker 4: Michigan is a good expenditure of thirteen million dollars. It's not.
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Speaker 4: It's terrible. It's a waste of money. It's mismanagement of funds.
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Speaker 4: It was a bad deal, and it shouldn't happened the
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Speaker 4: way that happened, Even if you're a firm believer that
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Speaker 4: it should have happened, that Kyle Whittingham needed to be
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Speaker 4: moved along, and that Morgan Scalley absolutely had to be
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Speaker 4: the head coach of Utah football in this twenty twenty
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Speaker 4: six season, no doubt in your mind, no other alternative. Fine,
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Speaker 4: I think he's going to do an absolutely incredible job.
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Speaker 4: I am enthusiastic, excited, and optimistic about the direction of
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Speaker 4: the program. It doesn't mean that the transition was done successfully.
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Speaker 4: It doesn't mean that the money spent in that transition
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Speaker 4: was spent in the right way. So there is at
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Speaker 4: least an observable plan to decrease that portion of the spending.
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Speaker 4: But what needs to happen is Utah Football needs to
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Speaker 4: find a way. And by the way, I'm telling you
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Speaker 4: the need, I'm telling you the problem without really any
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Speaker 4: good idea of what the solution is. What you have
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Speaker 4: to do at Utah Football is you have to find
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Speaker 4: a way to stay on a level playing field in
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Speaker 4: spending with the big boys, because that's what your fan
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Speaker 4: base expects. That's what you and I want Mark Harlan
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Speaker 4: to do. Hey, you better the coaches what they what
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Speaker 4: they're worth. Hey, you better pay the athletes what they're worth. Hey,
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Speaker 4: you better make sure the facilities are shiny and new
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Speaker 4: and special. I need that new baseball field. Man, We've
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Speaker 4: been wanting a baseball field for years. Why are they
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Speaker 4: playing at the pros at the minor league baseball field.
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Speaker 3: Oh look, we got it. It's wonderful.
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Speaker 4: You're not gonna have to expend that type of building
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Speaker 4: infrastructure anytime soon. That's gonna be good, but you know
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Speaker 4: it's gonna have to be refreshed sooner than later. Every
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Speaker 4: other dang building, the Huntsman Center, people are just like, hey,
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Speaker 4: you got to fix that, You got.
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Speaker 3: To make that better.
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Speaker 4: That costs money that, according to the state auditor, Utah
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Speaker 4: cannot afford to spend because you've been operating at a deficit,
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Speaker 4: And her assertion in the letter to the Board of
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Speaker 4: Trustees at the University of Utah is that there is
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Speaker 4: no foreseeable plan where Utah is in the black, is
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Speaker 4: in the net positive year over year with spending.
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Speaker 3: The surplus reported last year was.
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Speaker 4: Because you drew nineteen million dollars out of your athletic
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Speaker 4: department reserves to hide a deficit. And why did you
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Speaker 4: want to do that? Well, because when you're doing an acquisition,
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Speaker 4: which effectively this private equity deal is, you want the books,
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Speaker 4: you want the P and L to look better.
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Speaker 3: Than it does.
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Speaker 4: You're not gonna go to a private equity firm and
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Speaker 4: just say, hey, you want to buy into something that
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Speaker 4: loses fifteen million dollars a year.
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Speaker 3: No, you're going in and you're saying, look, we're doing
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Speaker 3: all right.
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Speaker 4: Part of that due diligence process is everyone going through
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Speaker 4: and finding out, Okay, this surplus really a surplus in
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Speaker 4: a year. In years where you're making this transition to
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Speaker 4: the Big twelve, and we knew that was going to
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Speaker 4: cost some money.
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Speaker 3: There's branding issues, there's all this stuff.
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Speaker 4: So what Utah needs to do is they need to
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Speaker 4: close that gap with the big ten teams, the SEC teams,
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Speaker 4: the power squads in the ACC, the athletic departments that
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Speaker 4: are in the black, that are flush. You need to
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Speaker 4: do that without effectively borrowing the money. You gotta earn it.
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Speaker 3: Again.
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Speaker 4: I'm telling you the obvious of what needs to be done.
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Speaker 4: I don't know how to do it. I know that
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Speaker 4: there are some solutions that you as you and I
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Speaker 4: as fans, are not gonna like. Easiest way for Utah
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Speaker 4: Football to increase revenue is to demand more revenue from
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Speaker 4: the fans. Ticket prices go up, merchandise prices go up,
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Speaker 4: concessions prices go up, Parking prices go up. Magically, you
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Speaker 4: have more money coming in for the same product. Right,
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Speaker 4: the best way to do this is you make more
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Speaker 4: money from your television partners. Well, guess what, you don't
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Speaker 4: get to do that by yourself. That's a Big twelve thing.
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Speaker 4: That's a grant of rights deal. That's a television contract
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Speaker 4: that has negotiated across it's a sixteen team conference, and
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Speaker 4: you don't really have a whole lot to say about it,
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Speaker 4: if we're being honest. Mark Carlin is a pretty powerful
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Speaker 4: athletic director in the Big twelve. President Randall is a
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Speaker 4: pretty powerful university president in the Big Twelve. Neither of
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Speaker 4: them can go blow up a deal if they don't
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Speaker 4: like it, because if Brett Yormark and all the other
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Speaker 4: chancellors in the league want that deal.
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Speaker 5: I mean, in fact, not to bring up old wounds
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Speaker 5: here from the end of the PAC twelve era, but
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Speaker 5: President Randall was reported as one of the people who
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Speaker 5: maybe was trying to assert a little bit too much
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Speaker 5: influence on the amount of money they should get in
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Speaker 5: the PAC twelve deal that never was realized.
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Speaker 3: So you got to be really careful.
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Speaker 5: With that, and like you said, with the influence that
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Speaker 5: you do have with you're Mark Carlin and university president
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Speaker 5: like President Randall, but you also don't have near as
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Speaker 5: much as one as representing one university as you know
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Speaker 5: over sixteen institution conference like the Big twelve. The University
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Speaker 5: of Utah ows payments with interest on one hundred and
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Speaker 5: nineteen dollars of debt relative to things like the new stadium,
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Speaker 5: the new baseball stadium, things like the Ken Garth red Zone,
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Speaker 5: rice ecles expansion, right, all these things that we want
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Speaker 5: as fans. Give me a bigger JumboTron, give me more
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Speaker 5: premium seating. All that costs money to build, right. And yes,
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Speaker 5: generous donations from big time donors that put their name
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Speaker 5: on the on the expansion or put their name on
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Speaker 5: the side of the building.
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Speaker 4: That helps, But it doesn't cover all of it all
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Speaker 4: the time. So the state auditor is saying, guys, you
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Speaker 4: don't have enough money even coming in from this. If
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Speaker 4: you're borrowing this money from otro capital, the infusion of capital,
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Speaker 4: that's what you're effectively doing.
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Speaker 3: You're borrowing time here, according to her report.
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Speaker 4: Now, the flip side of this argument, because it's important
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Speaker 4: to present both, is that the intelligent people at the
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Speaker 4: University of Utah, the minds that agreed to this in
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Speaker 4: the first place. They had access to these books the
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Speaker 4: whole time. They had access to the debt, they had
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Speaker 4: access to the spending plans, they had access to the
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Speaker 4: sort of projections on revenue moving forward. And yeah, some
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Speaker 4: unexpected things happened, like that thirteen million dollar buyout to
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Speaker 4: Kyle Whittingham or whatever. But when we're talking about hundreds
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Speaker 4: of millions, even that is not like doomsday, end of
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Speaker 4: the world scenario. Right, So those people got into bed
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Speaker 4: with outro capital knowing the situation and having some sort
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Speaker 4: of plan. The state auditor is not privileged to know
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Speaker 4: that entire plan. When she says there is no observable
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Speaker 4: plan forward to increase the revenue to decrease these deficits,
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Speaker 4: it just means that there's observable is doing a lot
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Speaker 4: of work here, right, there's no key that when you
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Speaker 4: just pull the public record that says this is what
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Speaker 4: we're going to do to make up this money. Again,
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Speaker 4: I don't have that information either. But if you're selling
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Speaker 4: a portion of your well not a portion, if you're
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Speaker 4: selling the rights to your ticket revenue, you're broadcasting not
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Speaker 4: your not your television grant of rights. But you know
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Speaker 4: your accessory programming effectively to private equity, and you're you're
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Speaker 4: telling them, all right, in exchange for this, you're gonna
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Speaker 4: bring in your expertise. You're gonna help us find way
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Speaker 4: to raise money to increase revenue that we don't have
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Speaker 4: the expertise on. That is the whole point, if you
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Speaker 4: go all the way back to December, that was why
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Speaker 4: they did this. We're bringing in a brand partner. We're
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Speaker 4: bringing in a private equity firm that is going to
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Speaker 4: help us make more money with what we have, because
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Speaker 4: you don't get to just add something you don't currently
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Speaker 4: have as a revenue stream. It's not like the University
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Speaker 4: of Utah has the option, has the privilege of being like,
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Speaker 4: guess what, we know the way to close the gap.
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Speaker 4: We're gonna now instead of having a regular men's basketball team,
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Speaker 4: we're gonna have a G League team on campus.
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Speaker 3: And that's gonna fix this for us. Hey, we're gonna
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Speaker 3: bring it.
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Speaker 4: We're gonna be the first Big twelve university to have
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Speaker 4: a men's boxing team and the coach is gonna be
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Speaker 4: Alexander Uhsik, the heavyweight champions. They don't get to do
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Speaker 4: these things. They don't get to like randomly bring in
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Speaker 4: new things. You have to use what you have to
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Speaker 4: generate more revenue. And every school in the country, every
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Speaker 4: athletic department in the country, with that rare exception, is
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Speaker 4: looking at it and going like, well, how we don't
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Speaker 4: we're already maxim We're already squeezing our fans for as
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Speaker 4: much as we think what they can take out of us.
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Speaker 4: We're already asking our facilities managers, We're already asking our
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Speaker 4: parking a lot partners. We're already at like, we're already
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Speaker 4: maximizing our bottom line, we think. And these private equity
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Speaker 4: firms are the best in the world at actually doing
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Speaker 4: that and coming in and saying, actually, you got you
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Speaker 4: can trimble a little fat here, you can do a
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Speaker 4: little bit there. That's why private equity has such a
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Speaker 4: bad reputation, because what they do is they come in
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Speaker 4: and they are dispassionate and unemotional about maximizing profit, and
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Speaker 4: oftentimes that comes with the cost, a human cost, that
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Speaker 4: comes with a sort of emotional cost of being like, well, yeah,
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Speaker 4: you don't.
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Speaker 3: You don't need six people in this department, you need
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Speaker 3: two people in this department.
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Speaker 4: And so we blame private equity for that trimming, and
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Speaker 4: we say, all right, well they're cold, they're merciless outro capital. Inevitably,
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Speaker 4: if this deal goes all the way through again it
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Speaker 4: hasn't been finalized. In exchange for their infusion of capital,
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Speaker 4: they're going to also say, now, football roster, football coaching staff,
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Speaker 4: all that stuff. You get to maintain decision making power
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Speaker 4: on that basketball coach, basketball roster, yes, men's and women's
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Speaker 4: you get to We're not going to touch the decision
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Speaker 4: making process for who your your gymnastics coach, your gymnastics
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Speaker 4: athletes are, but we are going to determine how much
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Speaker 4: those tickets cost. We are going to determine how much
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Speaker 4: we should be charging for popcorn. We are going to
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Speaker 4: tell you how many people on your support staff are
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Speaker 4: necessary when it comes to those like ticket sales executives,
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Speaker 4: when it comes to the the other stuff. Right, that's
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Speaker 4: what they're here for. That's what this partnership is. And
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Speaker 4: the state auditor is not convinced this is a good deal, says, no,
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Speaker 4: I don't see a plan moving forward to decrease spending.
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Speaker 4: And in fact, the projection, according to her, is that
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Speaker 4: what was a sixty million dollars surplus f sixty one
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Speaker 4: point five million dollars surplus athletically will be five point
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Speaker 4: eight million dollars left over this year. And at the
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Speaker 4: current rate of spending, James, you go from sixty one
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Speaker 4: point eight to forty two million down to five point
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Speaker 4: eight million. Guess what it is in twenty twenty seven
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Speaker 4: or twenty twenty eight at this rate, Yeah, you're in
22:51
Speaker 4: the hole. It's no longer a surplus at all. And
22:56
Speaker 4: that's where Ultro Capital is supposed to come in and say, Haha,
22:58
Speaker 4: guess what, here's five hundred million dollars. You're back in
23:01
Speaker 4: the black. And that resets your clock on how fast
23:05
Speaker 4: you're going to diminish or how fast you're going to deplete.
23:07
Speaker 4: But you cannot this University of Utah Athletic Department cannot
23:11
Speaker 4: let that infusion of capital from Ultro Capital come in
23:15
Speaker 4: and go from two hundred million to one hundred million
23:17
Speaker 4: to eighty million, to fifty million, to forty million to
23:21
Speaker 4: thirty million to ten to zero, because that's when Ultro
23:25
Speaker 4: Capital is like, aha, we gave you this money. We
23:30
Speaker 4: weren't able to make any of it back. We were
23:32
Speaker 4: able to recoup our investment here.
23:34
Speaker 5: Now we own this, yeah, and that's when they that's
23:38
Speaker 5: when they probably say, was it a five year buyout
23:43
Speaker 5: clause or whatever and end clause to the Ultro Capital deal,
23:47
Speaker 5: you know, assuming it will eventually get signed, and because
23:50
Speaker 5: that's still hasn't happened yet as far as we know,
23:54
Speaker 5: that's when they say, Okay, we're opting out of the
23:57
Speaker 5: rest of this partnership that we entered into. We're not
24:01
Speaker 5: gonna We're gonna forego the remaining how many years that
24:06
Speaker 5: we we said we would max out on this because
24:08
Speaker 5: you're we're not making any money with it, and like
24:12
Speaker 5: you said, they're going to be making decisions that are
24:16
Speaker 5: going to make some of the rest of us go,
24:17
Speaker 5: oh really, it's gonna cost that much for popcorn?
24:20
Speaker 3: Oh really? That many people lost their jobs.
24:23
Speaker 4: But I mean, the state auditor is asking for an
24:26
Speaker 4: increase in operating income from the Athletic Department, which is
24:30
Speaker 4: something that they are already working on. We already need
24:34
Speaker 4: to know the plan here. I don't know what it is.
24:37
Speaker 4: But while you're saying, all right, I need more money
24:42
Speaker 4: out of the athletic Department, the Athletic Department is also saying,
24:45
Speaker 4: I know, I know you do. However, we also have
24:47
Speaker 4: to pay twenty one million dollars to the athletes. Now
24:50
Speaker 4: that wasn't a thing five years ago. It's a big
24:54
Speaker 4: chunk of change. Even for Texas, that's a big chunk
24:59
Speaker 4: of change. Even for Miami, that's a big chunk of change.
25:02
Speaker 3: Right.
25:03
Speaker 4: That is twenty point five and it's gonna keep going up.
25:07
Speaker 4: That is twenty point five, twenty two, twenty three point five,
25:11
Speaker 4: twenty five million every year. That comes off of your
25:17
Speaker 4: bottom line, right, And the margins have never been particularly
25:22
Speaker 4: high in these athletic departments because even as you make more,
25:27
Speaker 4: what do you do you spend more to maintain to
25:29
Speaker 4: keep up with your own joneses. Right, the most money
25:33
Speaker 4: that hey look we're Texas a and m We got
25:36
Speaker 4: Johnny Manziel, he brought it an extra one hundred million
25:38
Speaker 4: dollars this year. It's not like they then put that
25:40
Speaker 4: into a bank account so they can use it for
25:42
Speaker 4: the next ten years. It's their their emergency fund. They're like,
25:46
Speaker 4: guess what we're doing with this. We're building a new facility.
25:50
Speaker 4: And that's what every school around the country has done
25:53
Speaker 4: with every extra bit of cash. You reinvest it back
25:56
Speaker 4: into the program. Well, now part of that reinvestment goes
25:59
Speaker 4: to play. Is there someone out there who's gonna wipe
26:05
Speaker 4: out one hundred and nineteen million dollars of Utah debt?
26:08
Speaker 4: Besides this Ultro Capital deal, I don't think there is
26:13
Speaker 4: operating income needs to increase. How does operating income increase?
26:18
Speaker 4: That's what Ultro Capital has to help Utah figure out.
26:21
Speaker 4: And the state auditor is not convinced that it's going
26:25
Speaker 4: to happen. And it's this damned if you do, damned
26:28
Speaker 4: if you don't. It's this chicken in the egg. It's
26:30
Speaker 4: just like Utah. Part of the belief in this deal
26:34
Speaker 4: is that, yeah, they're.
26:34
Speaker 3: Gonna help us.
26:35
Speaker 4: They're gonna come in, they're gonna help us improve our
26:37
Speaker 4: operating income. They're gonna help us get better at this.
26:40
Speaker 4: They're gonna help us to earn more money. And then
26:43
Speaker 4: the problem is solved or the problem gets better. And
26:48
Speaker 4: a state official is saying, well, I don't think this
26:51
Speaker 4: should go through. I don't think you should even benefit
26:54
Speaker 4: from those expertise because the deal ain't good. It's just
26:57
Speaker 4: an infusion of capital that event it gets depleted. We're
27:04
Speaker 4: the home of the utes I'm optimistic that this athletic department,
27:10
Speaker 4: this football program, this athletic program, and the programs that
27:15
Speaker 4: you care about especially are going to remain healthy, stay healthy,
27:18
Speaker 4: get better moving forward. I'm also realistic, ultro capital or not,
27:24
Speaker 4: there are going to be some significant pain points in
27:28
Speaker 4: moving this athletic department forward if you continue to expect
27:32
Speaker 4: it to compete at the national level. And barring anything
27:40
Speaker 4: completely unforeseen, I don't imagine that the thousands and thousands
27:46
Speaker 4: and thousands of fans at reces Eco Stadium every Saturday
27:49
Speaker 4: are just going to collectively shrug and say it's fine if.
27:52
Speaker 3: We're not a nationally relevant program anymore.
27:56
Speaker 4: The tough job they've got up there right now at
27:58
Speaker 4: the Utah Athletic Department, and now you've got a bunch
28:02
Speaker 4: of LOOKI lows going like, well, is this really a
28:04
Speaker 4: good deal or not? It's not finalized yet. Will it
28:10
Speaker 4: be soon? I hope so so we can see what
28:15
Speaker 4: it actually does for the athletic department and for the university.
28:19
Speaker 4: That's the latest good job in the Salt Lake Tribune
28:22
Speaker 4: Jason Patakiao helping to elucidate and really get the information
28:28
Speaker 4: out there in a way that at least some of
28:30
Speaker 4: us can try to understand.
28:32
Speaker 3: We're just getting started on a Sean O'Connell show.
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Speaker 4: mental health care, crisis support. And of course, the groundbreaking
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Speaker 4: research continues and our next guest is involved well in
29:23
Speaker 4: all of those things. Brett Graham, President of the Huntsman
29:26
Speaker 4: Mental Health Institute. Different from the Foundation, the Institute Correct
29:31
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong.
29:31
Speaker 3: This is this is like where the work is done This.
29:33
Speaker 4: Is the clinical arm of what the Huntsman Mental Health
29:36
Speaker 4: Foundation is doing, Is that right?
29:37
Speaker 6: Yeah.
29:37
Speaker 7: I get to be involved with the whole apparatus, if
29:40
Speaker 7: you will, across the university. That really is the clinical piece.
29:43
Speaker 7: It's also the education and training, and I get to
29:45
Speaker 7: work with great people in both of those that are
29:48
Speaker 7: incredible professionals, academics, researchers that just really advance and provide
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Speaker 4: I imagine it's a really exciting thing to be involved with,
29:58
Speaker 4: not only like cutting edge research, but also actual practical.
30:03
Speaker 3: Care that is being provided to the community.
30:05
Speaker 4: And obviously through the Huntsman family, they've done it with cancer,
30:08
Speaker 4: They've done it now with mental health. I'm sure they'll
30:11
Speaker 4: have other plans with other areas of health care as well.
30:14
Speaker 4: But to make those two things meet, like to not
30:17
Speaker 4: just philosophically know what might need to be done, but
30:21
Speaker 4: then to see it put in practice with like.
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Speaker 3: The crisis care center, Oh.
30:24
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean you can kind of think of the
30:25
Speaker 7: Huntsman's as an accelerant to good work that's been going
30:29
Speaker 7: on for literally decades. I mean, the Department of Psychiatry
30:32
Speaker 7: is almost eighty years old. Wow, the clinical enterprise is
30:36
Speaker 7: almost forty years old. And so then you bring the
30:39
Speaker 7: Huntsmans into that and all of their efforts, their passion,
30:42
Speaker 7: their focus, and the resources they bring, it really helps
30:45
Speaker 7: us do the work even better and faster or a.
30:48
Speaker 4: Sports station as you know, right, And there's a really
30:52
Speaker 4: interesting juxtaposition in my mind when it comes to mental
30:56
Speaker 4: health care, athletes now being voices for or advocates for
31:01
Speaker 4: talking about it, seeking treatment and destigmatizing something that really
31:07
Speaker 4: was kind of a weapon of bludgeon used against athletes
31:10
Speaker 4: for so long. Buck up, be tough, don't worry about it,
31:14
Speaker 4: and we saw the negative side effects. And I think
31:16
Speaker 4: that finally the pendulum is swinging the other way and
31:19
Speaker 4: we're seeing coaches, athletes, etc. Understand how important this part
31:23
Speaker 4: of their health is.
31:24
Speaker 7: Oh absolutely. In fact, we're doing work with the IOC
31:27
Speaker 7: is a lead up to the Games in twenty thirty four,
31:30
Speaker 7: and it is incredible how mental health actually plays into performance,
31:35
Speaker 7: but also how in many ways some athletes have chosen
31:38
Speaker 7: their sports because it actually is their outlet to be
31:41
Speaker 7: able to maintain mental health. Right, So it's a challenge
31:44
Speaker 7: but also a tool to maintain it.
31:47
Speaker 4: So how could people get more involved in not only
31:50
Speaker 4: the Foundation, but the institute, yeah up there.
31:52
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, I think what we want first and
31:54
Speaker 7: foremost is we want awareness, right, people to be aware
31:57
Speaker 7: that there are resources when you or a loved one
32:01
Speaker 7: is in a challenging situation. That's first and foremost. Second,
32:05
Speaker 7: because mental health is just a place where it's underfunded
32:09
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Speaker 3: Brett, thanks for being part of this radio thought today.
32:48
Speaker 7: Thanks for the opportunity to be here.
32:51
Speaker 4: There's always stuff left to get to in the sports world,
32:53
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Speaker 3: Bill Riley joins us, Hey.
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Speaker 8: Bill, Hey Sean.
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Speaker 9: Let me just say right off the top, the Huntsman
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Speaker 9: Mental Health Foundation and Center do outstanding work. And the
34:03
Speaker 9: more we see society today, and because you and I
34:08
Speaker 9: grew up in different times, the more we see the
34:11
Speaker 9: importance of the great work they do for kids, adults,
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Speaker 9: those of any age. And I'm so glad that you
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Speaker 9: guys are down there and being part of this today.
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Speaker 9: It's it's a much needed service in our community and
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Speaker 9: they do a fantastic job.
34:28
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
34:30
Speaker 4: Let's talk about some things pertinent to Utah football. We
34:32
Speaker 4: got the kickoff times for the first couple of games
34:35
Speaker 4: of the season and the Arkansas Arkansas football team. The
34:41
Speaker 4: Arkansas Athletic Department displeased that their nine to fifteen Central
34:47
Speaker 4: time body clocks are going to be disturbed by playing
34:50
Speaker 4: a football game at rece Cycle Stadium. Hunter Yerchik, their
34:54
Speaker 4: athletic director, put out an impassioned statement via his social
34:58
Speaker 4: media that this would never happen to some of the
35:00
Speaker 4: other teams in the SEC.
35:02
Speaker 3: Does he have a legitimate gripe in your opinion.
35:05
Speaker 8: He does not.
35:06
Speaker 9: He gladly accepts every check that ESPN and Fox cut
35:12
Speaker 9: to the SEC and Arkansas. I love the fact that
35:15
Speaker 9: he said we might not get back home till five
35:18
Speaker 9: or six in the morning. Well, Sean, let me tell
35:21
Speaker 9: you about what life was like playing in the PAC
35:24
Speaker 9: twelve many a year. Many a time, I was pulling
35:28
Speaker 9: into my driveway at about five thirty or six in
35:30
Speaker 9: the morning after calling a game that went into the
35:33
Speaker 9: PAC twelve after dark. Realm, I have no time for this.
35:38
Speaker 9: This is just how it happens to fall. You chose
35:41
Speaker 9: to play Utah when you play a team that's not
35:43
Speaker 9: in your time zone, there's an opportunity that that may
35:46
Speaker 9: very well happen.
35:48
Speaker 8: And so there you go.
35:48
Speaker 9: Did you ever watch the television show mad Men?
35:51
Speaker 3: I never watched mad Men. I know I've missed the
35:53
Speaker 3: boat on that one.
35:55
Speaker 10: Well, go back and watch it.
35:56
Speaker 8: But here's what I will say.
35:57
Speaker 9: There's a famous meme that's come out of that show.
36:00
Speaker 9: John Hamm's character, the central character and the whole thing,
36:06
Speaker 9: screams at one of his subordinates who wanted more credit
36:10
Speaker 9: for a job that they were to do because he.
36:12
Speaker 8: Got all the credit.
36:13
Speaker 9: And he turns at them and yells, that's what the
36:17
Speaker 9: money is for. And that's what I would have turned
36:19
Speaker 9: and said to Hunter Eurosek if he was if he
36:23
Speaker 9: was saying that to me, if I was Greg sank
36:25
Speaker 9: or ESPN. This is just part of the deal. Television
36:29
Speaker 9: dictates it. This is not something new to him. It
36:32
Speaker 9: just so happens. He's got back to back games where
36:35
Speaker 9: the times don't line up. But to answer your original question, no,
36:38
Speaker 9: he does not have a gripe about this. It's just
36:41
Speaker 9: how it plays out. They'll be fine, teams are resilient
36:45
Speaker 9: and he'll they'll find a way. But no, there's no
36:48
Speaker 9: gripe because the money is what it is, and television
36:51
Speaker 9: dictates everything.
36:54
Speaker 4: I don't like the when we got the announcement and
36:58
Speaker 4: the schedules, we had already seen the times on these
37:01
Speaker 4: things were just released, but it brings back into you know,
37:06
Speaker 4: front of mind what the schedules are. The Big Twelve
37:08
Speaker 4: Conference doesn't really have a showcase game in Week one
37:12
Speaker 4: of the college football season, so reasonably you could go
37:16
Speaker 4: through the entire Week one slate on the weekend if
37:19
Speaker 4: you're you know, somebody sitting in like I don't know,
37:22
Speaker 4: New Jersey, or somebody sitting in Florida and just not
37:25
Speaker 4: even care to see a Big Twelve team, And I
37:28
Speaker 4: don't think the conference could necessarily afford to be in
37:31
Speaker 4: that position. It's easier said than done to make sure
37:34
Speaker 4: you're scheduling prominent games every single week, but it feels
37:38
Speaker 4: more important for Brett or markin for the Big Twelve
37:41
Speaker 4: to stay diligent on that. And last year they obviously
37:44
Speaker 4: outsourced a rivalry game to Ireland in order to give
37:49
Speaker 4: that like a showcase to where at least you were
37:52
Speaker 4: on TV and you were part of the national conversation.
37:55
Speaker 4: Week one in the Big Twelve this year's not going
37:57
Speaker 4: to happen.
37:57
Speaker 11: Bill Well, I would I would push back.
38:00
Speaker 9: I think TCU North Carolina has some possibility there. Now
38:05
Speaker 9: that game's in Dublin, and it does start at ten
38:09
Speaker 9: a m. America, a Mountain time noontime back East, so
38:15
Speaker 9: it's not really a prime time. It's not one of
38:17
Speaker 9: those evening But I would tell you that Saturday, August
38:21
Speaker 9: to twenty ninth, that is that technically week one or
38:23
Speaker 9: is that week zero?
38:24
Speaker 4: I think that's week zero because Week one Utah Utah
38:28
Speaker 4: actually starts a Thursday.
38:29
Speaker 9: As you're all, okay, okay, so that's what you're okay,
38:32
Speaker 9: that's a week zero game. And I'm just kind of
38:34
Speaker 9: perusing the schedule here. Does Kansas Long Island not do
38:38
Speaker 9: it for you?
38:39
Speaker 10: Sean?
38:39
Speaker 4: I mean, you know me, I'm a die hard Long
38:42
Speaker 4: Island and Kansas fan, but.
38:45
Speaker 9: Well I'm looking at Houston Oregons then probably not. Yeah,
38:49
Speaker 9: you're right, there's not a lot of marquee.
38:51
Speaker 1: Well, no, I take that back.
38:53
Speaker 9: I'll push back on Auburn Baylor, two programs that are
38:58
Speaker 9: probably look a little bit that are on paper on
39:01
Speaker 9: the schedule sheet than maybe they will actually be. But
39:04
Speaker 9: it's being played at Mercedes Benz Stadium. It is a
39:07
Speaker 9: Big twelve school, so maybe a factor that in. But
39:10
Speaker 9: I do get your point. There aren't as many marquee
39:13
Speaker 9: games maybe as you would like in that very first
39:16
Speaker 9: week showcase. But then again, Indiana's playing North Texas, you know, Oregon,
39:23
Speaker 9: Well maybe Oregon Boise States one of those games. Tennessee's
39:26
Speaker 9: playing Furman. You know, I'm just looking down there. There's
39:29
Speaker 9: not a lot of great early matchups in that Week
39:32
Speaker 9: one really across the board.
39:33
Speaker 4: Well yeah, and that might be the number one thing
39:35
Speaker 4: to push back on. My own complaint is that when
39:37
Speaker 4: you look at Week one, it's like all of college
39:39
Speaker 4: football abdicated their responsibility to give us something intense in
39:44
Speaker 4: that first frame because there's not much even on the
39:48
Speaker 4: national landscape when it comes to the big time games.
39:51
Speaker 4: I was just double checking here to make sure. So
39:53
Speaker 4: Auburn finished third to last in the SEC last year, Yeah,
39:58
Speaker 4: and so not one of their premier programs. Baylor was,
40:03
Speaker 4: uh Bay there was was fifth in the Big twelve standings, So.
40:07
Speaker 3: There you go.
40:08
Speaker 8: Yeah, a little bit.
40:09
Speaker 9: You know, Kyle Whittingham's kicking off the Michigan era for
40:13
Speaker 9: him against Western Michigan, I think is who they play,
40:16
Speaker 9: So I mean that game is gonna be I can
40:18
Speaker 9: I can't imagine NBC is thrilled about that. So you're
40:21
Speaker 9: You're right. Across the board, there's just not a lot
40:23
Speaker 9: of marque matchups. It's going to be interesting to see though,
40:26
Speaker 9: as we move forward here, as the SEC is adding,
40:30
Speaker 9: you know, taking away their their late season so con
40:33
Speaker 9: week where they take away the you know, they're taking
40:35
Speaker 9: away the cupcakes in November, and if we we really
40:39
Speaker 9: begin to ramp this thing up and expand the playoff,
40:41
Speaker 9: if if non conference scheduling becomes better across the board,
40:45
Speaker 9: if conferences look to add another, i don't know, another
40:48
Speaker 9: conference game in there somewhere, It'll be interesting to see
40:51
Speaker 9: moving forward if the playoff changes, if non conference early
40:55
Speaker 9: season games changed too.
40:56
Speaker 4: Well, you just brought up what my next question was
40:58
Speaker 4: going to be about the conversation around further expanding the
41:01
Speaker 4: college football playoff.
41:03
Speaker 3: Apparently ESPN doesn't want it.
41:05
Speaker 4: The SEC can't decide if they want sixteen or stay
41:08
Speaker 4: at twelve, or maybe some people are okay with twenty four.
41:11
Speaker 4: The Big Ten says twenty four or bust. And at
41:15
Speaker 4: spring meetings, the Big Twelve. The coaches voted unanimously to
41:19
Speaker 4: have it be a twenty four team college football playoff.
41:23
Speaker 4: I'm not fully on board with this yet, but I
41:25
Speaker 4: think I might have to get on board.
41:26
Speaker 3: What do you think of twenty four teams?
41:29
Speaker 9: I'm not thrilled with I talked about it this week
41:31
Speaker 9: on my podcast on the Crimson Corner. I'm just I'd
41:36
Speaker 9: like to see them take the next logic. We've only
41:39
Speaker 9: been at twelve now for two years, so I'd like
41:43
Speaker 9: to see them take the next logical step in a
41:45
Speaker 9: year or so and go to sixteen. That's what everybody
41:48
Speaker 9: else deals with. Division one, Double A, Division two, Division three, Naia,
41:52
Speaker 9: Let's see what that does. I'm not sure. I mean,
41:56
Speaker 9: I know what the twenty four is. You're adding more teams.
41:58
Speaker 9: The Big ten also wants gear, and you know they're
42:00
Speaker 9: the ones pushing this, and then everybody else that jumped
42:03
Speaker 9: on board. Well, I know the Big twelve is jumped
42:06
Speaker 9: on board. I know the ACC has two. But at
42:09
Speaker 9: least early iterations from Tony Pettiti, he was talking about guaranteeing,
42:13
Speaker 9: you know, like six Big ten teams would be guaranteed,
42:16
Speaker 9: and the SEC would have six teams. I think the
42:18
Speaker 9: Big twelve and the ACC, at least with early discussions,
42:21
Speaker 9: were to get three guaranteed teams in, and I just
42:25
Speaker 9: I don't like the idea of guaranteed teams. I want
42:28
Speaker 9: the best teams to be in there. I don't want
42:29
Speaker 9: you to be qualified because you were the fifth best
42:32
Speaker 9: team in the conference. I want the best twelve, sixteen,
42:35
Speaker 9: twenty four, and maybe we eventually get the twenty four sean.
42:39
Speaker 9: But I'd like to see this thing kind of play
42:42
Speaker 9: itself out, you know, go to sixteen and see what happens.
42:45
Speaker 9: I mean last year we had a little debate. Should
42:47
Speaker 9: Texas have been in? You know, should should Notre Dame
42:50
Speaker 9: have been in? Should be why you maybe have been in?
42:54
Speaker 9: Could you know if it was sixteen, Utah would have
42:55
Speaker 9: probably been in because they would have been fifteen in
42:57
Speaker 9: the final rankings. I don't think going to twenty four
43:01
Speaker 9: and expanding it that far out. I don't think you're
43:04
Speaker 9: excluding anybody at sixteen that's probably a legitimate national championship contender.
43:10
Speaker 9: And ultimately, in theory, that's what the tournament's for, is
43:13
Speaker 9: to determine a national championship. I know, in the real world,
43:16
Speaker 9: it's about billing television dollars and creating more revenue for conferences.
43:21
Speaker 9: But to get back to your original point, I will
43:25
Speaker 9: probably eventually get there, and maybe we'll all love it
43:27
Speaker 9: once we get there.
43:29
Speaker 10: But for me, if you're going to expand.
43:31
Speaker 9: From twelve, do we have to double the field or
43:34
Speaker 9: can we just take another baby step forward get to
43:37
Speaker 9: sixteen and see how it works.
43:38
Speaker 8: Where do you fall on it?
43:39
Speaker 3: Well, I'm with you.
43:41
Speaker 4: I think that you let what the current system is
43:43
Speaker 4: play out of it for a little longer, and if
43:45
Speaker 4: you're going to expand, probably go to sixteen.
43:48
Speaker 3: Now.
43:48
Speaker 4: I love the FCS playoffs because they've they've worked it
43:51
Speaker 4: out this way for a long time. They've got a
43:53
Speaker 4: ton of participation in it. But as the Montana State
43:57
Speaker 4: fans and the Weeper State fans will point out to you, like,
44:01
Speaker 4: there's a lot of first round blowout games in those
44:03
Speaker 4: FCS playoffs, there's a lot of second round blowout games.
44:07
Speaker 4: And the way that they're seeding works, right, if you're
44:10
Speaker 4: one of the top teams in the country, you get
44:11
Speaker 4: that first round by And I'm trying to apply that
44:14
Speaker 4: to last year's final rankings. Nobody really wants to see
44:18
Speaker 4: a Week one of the college football Playoff. No one
44:21
Speaker 4: is demanding to see Ohio State play against TCU. No
44:26
Speaker 4: one's demanding to see in the second week Oregon, who
44:30
Speaker 4: got their first round by play against a two lane
44:34
Speaker 4: team that made it through their first game.
44:36
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
44:37
Speaker 4: It's like, do you actually want these games? And I
44:42
Speaker 4: think the answer is no. Now, the conferences might want
44:45
Speaker 4: the money, but do the fans want the games? Maybe
44:49
Speaker 4: so you have another game on campus, but no one's
44:52
Speaker 4: really champing at the bit to see some of these
44:55
Speaker 4: matchups that we would have had.
44:57
Speaker 9: I would say this though, Yeah, I think college football fans.
45:01
Speaker 9: I think you and I would both count ourselves as
45:03
Speaker 9: college football fans. If those games are on, We're going
45:06
Speaker 9: to watch them. Now, oh we going to watch four
45:09
Speaker 9: quarters of them. Maybe not because if they turn out
45:12
Speaker 9: into a blowout, we probably won't. But I think you
45:15
Speaker 9: and I will both sit down in front of the
45:17
Speaker 9: TV when a college football playoff game is on and
45:19
Speaker 9: watch it just to see what it looks like. And
45:22
Speaker 9: maybe occasionally you get one of those group of five schools,
45:25
Speaker 9: a two lane or even a less known power for school.
45:31
Speaker 9: They can make some noise, but to your point. Probably
45:34
Speaker 9: more often than not, those early round games, especially if
45:37
Speaker 9: you go to that or at least a handful of
45:40
Speaker 9: those early round games in a field of twenty four,
45:43
Speaker 9: are probably going to be lopsided affairs.
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48:21
Speaker 3: This one I found out about a few days ago.
48:22
Speaker 4: I was excited about it because when you have local legends,
48:26
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48:29
Speaker 4: talk with local legends. John Buck right here in studio
48:31
Speaker 4: with his lovely wife Brook and obviously major League Baseball
48:35
Speaker 4: mister all Everything at Taylorsville High back in the day.
48:38
Speaker 4: And by the way, Miss all Everything, way back in
48:42
Speaker 4: the day. I did not know this about the couple
48:46
Speaker 4: in studio right now, but Athlete of the Year Taylorsville High,
48:50
Speaker 4: Male Athlete of the Year and Female Athlete of the
48:52
Speaker 4: Year been together since you were fifteen years old.
48:56
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, welcome to the show. Thanks for having us,
48:59
Speaker 3: Thanks for having us. But can we start there please?
49:02
Speaker 4: The high school sweetheart story with three kids and a
49:05
Speaker 4: fully successful that is the coolest thing, you know what
49:08
Speaker 4: I mean. And I'm gonna look at you, Brooke, because
49:11
Speaker 4: because you're the one who holds it together.
49:13
Speaker 3: I don't know you well, but I know that that
49:15
Speaker 3: is how it is. That's funny you penned. I mean,
49:19
Speaker 3: that's just.
49:21
Speaker 4: You found you married up, you found the better half,
49:23
Speaker 4: and you happen to find it when you were fifteen
49:25
Speaker 4: years old.
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Speaker 12: Just like the award. Like I told everybody when I
49:28
Speaker 12: was giving that speech, she she got both.
49:30
Speaker 8: Of those awards. She earned both of those.
49:32
Speaker 12: Because she is.
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Speaker 13: Don't you're just telling everybody that I'm a nerd.
49:38
Speaker 3: That's right.
49:39
Speaker 4: Uh, Well, I'm supposed to stay on track here, So
49:41
Speaker 4: let's let's talk about why you're involved and how you
49:45
Speaker 4: decided to get involved with Huntsman Mental Health Foundation.
49:48
Speaker 12: Well, I growing up, I had a brother and a
49:52
Speaker 12: mom who had mental health issues. Brother he was the
49:55
Speaker 12: first blue chip All American for Utah actually, and he
49:59
Speaker 12: committed suicide. At the time, I was kind of told
50:04
Speaker 12: not to talk about it. I was all obviously out
50:06
Speaker 12: playing pro ball just got drafted and came home ready
50:11
Speaker 12: to really want to share with his friends and family
50:13
Speaker 12: in my community the hurt and loss and how it
50:16
Speaker 12: was wrong and how I think, you know, the things,
50:19
Speaker 12: kind of share what was going on so that his
50:21
Speaker 12: friend would have some answers. I was told not to
50:24
Speaker 12: talk to him. I think our education about mental health
50:27
Speaker 12: and realizing how we've normalized it till we realize it
50:32
Speaker 12: affects everybody, not just people with hard jobs going through
50:36
Speaker 12: hard things. Mental health is something for everyone. So being
50:40
Speaker 12: able to get that message out and then like share
50:43
Speaker 12: that where I wasn't able to fifteen twenty years ago,
50:47
Speaker 12: I feel very grateful to be able to be here
50:49
Speaker 12: be a part of this telethon to like they are
50:52
Speaker 12: providing what my brother didn't have, Like I just goosebump
50:56
Speaker 12: saying that, yeah, a phone call like this would have
50:58
Speaker 12: saved my brother and my mom's life.
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Speaker 4: Well, the other thing about this is your parents, right yes,
51:03
Speaker 4: and you're raising three boys, which I just found out,
51:07
Speaker 4: and to have these resources available as a parent, I'm
51:10
Speaker 4: I'm a parent of young girls right now, and I'm
51:13
Speaker 4: grateful for that, for the fact that our kids now
51:15
Speaker 4: have these resources, like you said that we didn't potentially
51:19
Speaker 4: growing up and I imagine broke especially being so close
51:22
Speaker 4: to you know, a family tragedy that was a big
51:25
Speaker 4: news story back in the day. Also, like, I imagine it's
51:28
Speaker 4: important to you that your boys have these resources if
51:30
Speaker 4: they need them, that's right, and.
51:32
Speaker 13: Kind of destigmatizing it and kind of normalizing like normal
51:37
Speaker 13: normalizing therapy, normalizing needing help, normalizing even the ask and
51:42
Speaker 13: even having apps out there, having counselors, like just normalizing
51:47
Speaker 13: needing help and asking for it when you need it
51:51
Speaker 13: type thing.
51:53
Speaker 3: I also think it's great.
51:54
Speaker 4: I know, look, it's important when you know any mom,
51:57
Speaker 4: any dad, any person in any walk of life is
52:00
Speaker 4: willing to have these conversations.
52:02
Speaker 3: But your local legend, you're a professional athlete.
52:05
Speaker 4: You're a guy that traditionally a lot of kids are
52:08
Speaker 4: going to look up to a lot of kids are
52:09
Speaker 4: going to look to to say, well that's I mean,
52:12
Speaker 4: you look like you can still play.
52:13
Speaker 3: This is a big, strong guy.
52:15
Speaker 4: And for you to be willing to say no, let's
52:17
Speaker 4: talk about the things that actually matter.
52:19
Speaker 3: I think that's also important.
52:20
Speaker 4: It's something that the Huntsman Mental Health Foundation has been encouraging.
52:24
Speaker 4: We're a sports talk radio station. They've been encouraging, you know,
52:28
Speaker 4: athletes in our community, coaches in our community to make
52:30
Speaker 4: sure that they're on board with this.
52:31
Speaker 12: Yeah, and as funny as it's actually a little more
52:35
Speaker 12: in your face than people realize. If you check the
52:39
Speaker 12: rosters coaching staffs on major leagues, just in particular, you
52:43
Speaker 12: see two or three pitching coaches, two or three hitting coaches.
52:47
Speaker 12: One of them will be called the quality control coach.
52:51
Speaker 12: That's just a fancy way of saying mental strength coach. Interesting,
52:54
Speaker 12: that's a Tony Robbhams, Jim Fannon. Go look at their credentials.
52:58
Speaker 12: They've probably either played, they have lived experience, and then
53:01
Speaker 12: they have the credentials, they have the knowledge and the
53:04
Speaker 12: know how of how to process this stress. We're feeling
53:08
Speaker 12: we're operating a meat locker. Like the conversations I'm having
53:13
Speaker 12: with first responders and ballplayers, we're able to relate because
53:16
Speaker 12: we're operators. Yeah, they go through some really weird stress,
53:20
Speaker 12: and if all they're doing is flight or flight and
53:22
Speaker 12: they don't reregulate, we're also when we're able to table
53:26
Speaker 12: Steph Curry, what he does is throwing that basketball through
53:29
Speaker 12: and seeing those he's doing mental health work. Yeah, he's
53:32
Speaker 12: doing that me rehearsing. If I get buckled by Vertlander's
53:36
Speaker 12: breaking ball and I go to bed playing that over
53:40
Speaker 12: and over and over, that will go into that will
53:43
Speaker 12: be we think in pictures, that'll go into my rim
53:46
Speaker 12: sleep and think that's how mental health works. I intentionally
53:49
Speaker 12: have that buckle in my mind knows no difference between
53:53
Speaker 12: reality or non reality when I'm down playing that in
53:56
Speaker 12: my brain. So if I play it and I rehearse
53:58
Speaker 12: it as I I'm hitting this ball to right center,
54:00
Speaker 12: even though I struck out when I downregulate that when
54:03
Speaker 12: I go into rem the next for four hour increments.
54:06
Speaker 12: Those half hour increments for the next four hours will
54:08
Speaker 12: be rehearsing what I thought or felt when I went
54:11
Speaker 12: to bed, whether it was reality or not reality. We're
54:13
Speaker 12: intentionally hacking into that as athletes. Now, if we can
54:17
Speaker 12: address that with first responders or anybody quality control coach,
54:21
Speaker 12: and as we fail, we learn how to fail and
54:23
Speaker 12: fall forward, you get a lot better routine and rituals.
54:26
Speaker 12: In one hundred and sixty two games in one hundred
54:28
Speaker 12: and eighty days where you have to rest and recover,
54:31
Speaker 12: you have to be able to recover from the next day.
54:34
Speaker 12: So those principles and foundation what we're doing. It tables
54:38
Speaker 12: the conversation us as athletes. We're doing this mental health
54:42
Speaker 12: stuff and our regular day activities. We're just really good
54:45
Speaker 12: one percent performing humans with this meat lock or body,
54:49
Speaker 12: we know how to make it perform. Sometimes I was
54:52
Speaker 12: able to make this move. And the unhealthy part is
54:55
Speaker 12: that the first responders do is we're protectors. We're not
55:00
Speaker 12: supposed to hurt or feel they're supposed to perform. So
55:03
Speaker 12: a lot of that post game not recognizing that and
55:05
Speaker 12: not doing that correct way is some of our yips
55:09
Speaker 12: or the things and the stuff that happens in the
55:11
Speaker 12: game that'll downregulate. And we're starting to understand.
55:14
Speaker 4: That at what point in your baseball career did you
55:18
Speaker 4: become aware of these tools and the things that can
55:20
Speaker 4: help you, Because that's a lot of what the Huntsman
55:23
Speaker 4: Mental Health Foundation is doing is you're equipping people with tools. Right,
55:28
Speaker 4: all of us have negative thought patterns. All of us
55:30
Speaker 4: have you know, good days, bad days, up days, down days.
55:33
Speaker 4: Obviously for some people it's more profound. For people with
55:36
Speaker 4: mental health issues, it can be a lot more significant
55:38
Speaker 4: and a lot more serious. But having the tools to
55:42
Speaker 4: know how to interrupt those patterns, how to just pull
55:45
Speaker 4: yourself out or to talk to someone who can help
55:48
Speaker 4: you pull it out. At what point in your career
55:50
Speaker 4: or your life did you become aware of those tools?
55:54
Speaker 3: I was.
55:54
Speaker 8: I was was weird.
55:55
Speaker 12: I was very fortunate, and like you had an uncle,
55:58
Speaker 12: David Burke, who wash went late in high school, went
56:02
Speaker 12: to Nebraska. It was Irving Fryar and all that. When
56:06
Speaker 12: they're they're an orange bowl and all that. So he
56:08
Speaker 12: was he was. I thought he walked on water.
56:11
Speaker 3: At Nebraska.
56:11
Speaker 12: They made him take this class called psycho Cybernetics. So
56:15
Speaker 12: how do you train your to be able to do
56:17
Speaker 12: patterns and move your body part? And how you train?
56:20
Speaker 12: I was also at they made them take ballet. So
56:24
Speaker 12: my my mom asked my uncle, well, what should I do?
56:28
Speaker 12: She put me in gymnastics. Wow, So learning how to
56:31
Speaker 12: rehearse and play that routine in my head that became
56:34
Speaker 12: very natural to me. So I learned to kind of
56:37
Speaker 12: do that right. And then so in that when I
56:39
Speaker 12: started doing that and learned how to rehearse, it was
56:41
Speaker 12: like this skill set. I think that's what made me
56:43
Speaker 12: good at sports. But then when I was able to
56:46
Speaker 12: apply that because I started, I was good until I
56:49
Speaker 12: wasn't right, and then you get into Pro.
56:51
Speaker 8: Bowl, everybody's good.
56:53
Speaker 12: Yeah, right, So then that mental thing becomes really relevant.
56:57
Speaker 3: It's like, all right, Alex score and they're acting different.
57:02
Speaker 12: They don't waver, and the whole world was looking for
57:05
Speaker 12: him to be the next George Brett. He didn't waiver,
57:07
Speaker 12: he didn't panic, He stayed steady right, And I could
57:11
Speaker 12: see how his mental stayed steady, stayed confident, didn't go
57:14
Speaker 12: too high or too low. There's a skill set.
57:17
Speaker 8: Why is he like that?
57:18
Speaker 12: He has a routine in richels of what he's feeding himself.
57:21
Speaker 12: And I started seeing this, started having conversations with guys
57:25
Speaker 12: like Zach or Alex or Jeter. I have a picture
57:29
Speaker 12: in my room of Jeter talking about how where how
57:32
Speaker 12: he tricks his mind to be back in Battle Creek, Michigan,
57:36
Speaker 12: hitting the ball to right field as he blows a
57:38
Speaker 12: bubble because the neighbors are jerking left field and won't
57:41
Speaker 12: give him the ball back. So that helps him reduce thoughts.
57:44
Speaker 12: And this most pressured moments he told me, is have
57:47
Speaker 12: this picture. Go look at all his big home runs,
57:49
Speaker 12: all his big hits, he's blowing a bubble. Wow, he's
57:53
Speaker 12: doing one of those tools, the best in the game,
57:56
Speaker 12: a tool. Because he's feeling this, I asked him, and
57:59
Speaker 12: why I have the picture? I want to said, Derek,
58:02
Speaker 12: why did you say I felt really nervous? We had
58:04
Speaker 12: this at bat and it was in the paper here
58:06
Speaker 12: I single handedly beat the Yankees whatever in the ninth
58:09
Speaker 12: inning he had a chance to beat us, got second
58:12
Speaker 12: and third or whatever. Looks down at me two things happened,
58:15
Speaker 12: looked at me and winked and says, John, Oh, we
58:17
Speaker 12: haven't fun yet. Derek knew my first name. I was
58:20
Speaker 12: Dope second right. I was like, he's not nervous, he's
58:25
Speaker 12: winking at me, blowing me bubbles, asking if we have fun.
58:29
Speaker 12: I went and asked him, why did you do that?
58:31
Speaker 12: He told me, I'm blowing the bubble what I told you?
58:34
Speaker 12: Putting myself back in a bouttle creek because you had
58:37
Speaker 12: me because I was squatting looking up at him, thinking
58:40
Speaker 12: I think now's the time to go in. I'm gonna
58:42
Speaker 12: go hard in and come. And then he told me
58:44
Speaker 12: he was thinking, I think I'm gonna try going in.
58:47
Speaker 12: I had him thinking I bought him off of his approach.
58:50
Speaker 12: I was making him think of thoughts off of his approach.
58:54
Speaker 4: So then his response to that was to pull himself
58:56
Speaker 4: back into that routine.
58:58
Speaker 12: He pulled out that He pulled out a mental skills
59:00
Speaker 12: tool to reduce his thoughts for what he wants, now
59:03
Speaker 12: what he does want, I was getting pulling him towards
59:07
Speaker 12: avoiding what he doesn't want.
59:08
Speaker 3: See the brain trick. That's awesome.
59:10
Speaker 12: He was fixing himself into a spot where he is
59:13
Speaker 12: in the zone where he's only thinking about what he wants,
59:16
Speaker 12: and he needs to go back to battle Creek blowing
59:19
Speaker 12: a buffle for his trick.
59:21
Speaker 4: I love that story because it points out that a
59:24
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59:27
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59:30
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59:33
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Speaker 3: Some big news coming from the Big twelve conference.
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Speaker 4: A new replay operations Center is opening for this upcoming season.
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Speaker 4: It's at Williams Tower in Irving, Texas. All of us
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Speaker 4: know exactly where that is. Of course, the replay Operations
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Speaker 4: Center will also operate. They will support I have audio
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Speaker 4: feeds during replay, so the Big twelve is now going
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Speaker 4: to be one of two conferences to reutilize replay audio
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Speaker 4: as part of the television presentation.
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Speaker 3: I like this.
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Speaker 4: We have seen this on television before where you go
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Speaker 4: into the replay and you get to hear what the
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Speaker 4: referee is saying to the command center and vice versa.
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Speaker 3: This is awesome.
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Speaker 4: New replay Operation center will hopefully get things a little
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Speaker 4: bit more accurate in this upcoming Well, it won't be ready,
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Speaker 4: I guess till the twenty twenty seven football season. Ten
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Speaker 4: replay stations with the ability to expand to sixteen replay stations.
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Speaker 5: ACC is the other conference, if I'm not mistaken, that
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Speaker 5: you can actually hear the refs talking and talking to
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Speaker 5: replay center and then talking back to them, so you
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Speaker 5: know what the call is before they give it to
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Speaker 5: the stadium. But not only that, if you've watched an
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Speaker 5: ACC game, you get to hear the process of why
1:02:59
Speaker 5: they just decided to make that call, which is, just
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Speaker 5: like you said, incredible. I believe the UFL has been
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Speaker 5: doing this going back to their XFL days a few
1:03:08
Speaker 5: years ago, with Dean Blandino involved in that as they're
1:03:13
Speaker 5: head of officiating. It's been really cool to see it
1:03:17
Speaker 5: in those too, the UFL games and the ACC games.
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Speaker 5: I mean, I wish it was ready for this year,
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Speaker 5: oh see, but can't wait for twenty twenty seven. That
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Speaker 5: way seems like you could just like slap the same
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Speaker 5: equipment in a building that's already ready to go.
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Speaker 3: But whatever.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I wonder if we might by the end
1:03:40
Speaker 5: of the season. They're like, we'll have this for Big
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Speaker 5: twelve Championship game to get you a taste of what
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Speaker 5: it'll be in twenty twenty seven.
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Speaker 3: But we'll see.
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Speaker 4: We may have found another transfer portal loophole in the
1:03:54
Speaker 4: college football world, similar to what Jake retz left it
1:04:00
Speaker 4: last year, and of course there was a rule made
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Speaker 4: to close that loophole. The ghost transfer where you unenroll
1:04:06
Speaker 4: and then re enroll as a walk on somewhere allowed
1:04:10
Speaker 4: Jake Retzlaf to be the two lane quarterback a season ago,
1:04:13
Speaker 4: and the n c DOUBLEA came out with some pretty
1:04:16
Speaker 4: severe penalties proposed for someone doing the same thing. If
1:04:20
Speaker 4: you encourage someone to ghost transfer, as it has been
1:04:24
Speaker 4: referred to, you lose a ton of revenue and your
1:04:28
Speaker 4: coach will be expended for expended what is suspended for
1:04:32
Speaker 4: a half season. So the ghost transfer rule, that loophole
1:04:37
Speaker 4: is closed. But here's another one, and this UCLA quarterback
1:04:43
Speaker 4: Carson Gordon, who has also played some receiver. He was
1:04:46
Speaker 4: a four star athlete coming out of high school. He
1:04:51
Speaker 4: hasn't really found his footing necessarily in the college football world,
1:04:56
Speaker 4: but he is. He's entering the NCAA transfer portal and
1:05:01
Speaker 4: you might be sitting there going like, what are you
1:05:02
Speaker 4: talking about? The transfer portal window closed a long time ago.
1:05:06
Speaker 4: You're absolutely correct, but he's not transferring as a football player.
1:05:13
Speaker 4: This guy also ran track at UCLA, so he's entering
1:05:18
Speaker 4: the transfer portal as a track athlete. He can now
1:05:21
Speaker 4: go to a new school as a track athlete. But
1:05:23
Speaker 4: guess what sport. He's gonna play football.
1:05:26
Speaker 5: He's gonna walk on the football team, but he's gonna
1:05:29
Speaker 5: officially be a track athlete.
1:05:31
Speaker 4: And actually he doesn't have to walk on. You can
1:05:33
Speaker 4: give him a scholarship. Okay, because he's not a ghost transfer.
1:05:37
Speaker 4: He's just a student athlete. Who oh, look at this. Wow,
1:05:41
Speaker 4: I entered the transfer. So now there's another loophole they're
1:05:44
Speaker 4: gonna have to close, which, by the way, this one
1:05:46
Speaker 4: would be so easy to close. Like, yeah, you could
1:05:48
Speaker 4: be a track athlete and transfer, but you have to
1:05:50
Speaker 4: run track. You could transfer in the window for track,
1:05:54
Speaker 4: but you have to also participate in track at another
1:05:58
Speaker 4: at the next school.
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Speaker 3: You can't. You can't do the football.
1:06:00
Speaker 4: But there's another guy who's the Missouri State guy's doing
1:06:03
Speaker 4: this with basketball. Yeah, he's like a six', five two
1:06:07
Speaker 4: hundred and ninety five pound power, forward and he's just,
1:06:10
Speaker 4: like all, right well this isn't working out for.
1:06:12
Speaker 3: Me i'm gonna go play.
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Speaker 4: Football so he's entering The he entered the basketball transfer
1:06:16
Speaker 4: portal with the intent of playing football somewhere. Else it's
1:06:19
Speaker 4: the easiest thing in the world to just write a
1:06:21
Speaker 4: rule that's just, like you have to transfer and then
1:06:24
Speaker 4: play the same sport you transferred.
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Speaker 5: Him, yeah but and if you want to be part
1:06:28
Speaker 5: of a different team than the sport you, transferred you
1:06:30
Speaker 5: can be a team manager for that.
1:06:32
Speaker 3: Team you can't be a. Player here's the, thing, Though
1:06:37
Speaker 3: just let him do. It let him do, It.
1:06:39
Speaker 4: Okay let the soap opera be so insane that college
1:06:45
Speaker 4: football coaches are now going to the track coaches on
1:06:48
Speaker 4: campus and just being, like, hey will you let this
1:06:52
Speaker 4: kid be a track athlete, too so that we can
1:06:56
Speaker 4: we can have him have this extra loophole available to.
1:06:59
Speaker 3: Him you know what this. Is it just popped in my.
1:07:01
Speaker 5: Head it's The Lori laughlin and many others usc The
1:07:06
Speaker 5: Varsity blues.
1:07:07
Speaker 3: Scandal, yeah it's exactly what it. Is it's what it.
1:07:10
Speaker 5: Is but it's with the transfer portal instead of, admissions
1:07:14
Speaker 5: resumes and.
1:07:15
Speaker 4: Letters it's like what's that you're on the rowing team
1:07:18
Speaker 4: and so we're gonna allow you into the. School that
1:07:21
Speaker 4: whole thing was the funniest and it just shows you
1:07:24
Speaker 4: how ridiculous human beings can. Be, like, WELL i want
1:07:28
Speaker 4: my kid to go TO. UCLA i want my kid
1:07:31
Speaker 4: to go TO. Usc it's, like all, right, well then maybe.
1:07:33
Speaker 3: You should encourage to to get good grades for their whole.
1:07:36
Speaker 5: Life seriously and, Listen I'm i'm not one that completely
1:07:41
Speaker 5: understands that mindset because for, me obviously there's varying degrees
1:07:48
Speaker 5: of a good education depending on what college you go, to,
1:07:52
Speaker 5: Right but for, me and maybe it's just the result
1:07:55
Speaker 5: of the Field i'm going, into the degree doesn't matter
1:07:58
Speaker 5: as much as the experience and the networking does in
1:08:00
Speaker 5: our BUSINESS Oc so maybe that just colored my. Thoughts
1:08:03
Speaker 5: But i'm, LIKE i DON'T i don't care what COLLEGE
1:08:06
Speaker 5: i go. TO i just want a college, degree AND
1:08:09
Speaker 5: i believe That i'll get a quality education no matter
1:08:13
Speaker 5: WHERE i go. To that's WHY i stayed, hometown went
1:08:15
Speaker 5: To Utah, tech you, know Formerly Dixie state And Saint.
1:08:18
Speaker 5: George Because i'm, LIKE i JUST i could care less
1:08:21
Speaker 5: to try to get great grades to get Into, stanford
1:08:25
Speaker 5: or to or To university Of utah here, locally or
1:08:29
Speaker 5: or TO byu. WHATEVER i just, LIKE i just want
1:08:32
Speaker 5: to go to. College and SO i don't really understand
1:08:35
Speaker 5: the devaluing of every other college institution in a way
1:08:39
Speaker 5: that like we're going to cheat to get into a specific.
1:08:42
Speaker 3: SCHOOL i.
1:08:44
Speaker 4: Believe that it's just you want to impress your. FRIENDS
1:08:50
Speaker 4: i really think that's a lot of what this is.
1:08:51
Speaker 4: About because if it were all about the, meritocracy, right
1:08:55
Speaker 4: and if you were, like, yeah my kid needs to
1:08:58
Speaker 4: go to this elite academic and institution in order to get
1:09:01
Speaker 4: the job THAT i think my kid deserves or, whatever,
1:09:04
Speaker 4: right these are multi millionaire, parents right that are setting
1:09:10
Speaker 4: their kids up for failure by trying to set them
1:09:12
Speaker 4: up for. Success but being, Like i'm going to get
1:09:14
Speaker 4: you into a school you didn't earn your way into.
1:09:17
Speaker 4: That we have lost the plot with a lot of
1:09:20
Speaker 4: this in youth sports with. Education if you want your
1:09:25
Speaker 4: kid to be, elite make them work at being elite
1:09:29
Speaker 4: by all, means hire them the coach if you really
1:09:31
Speaker 4: think that's. Important buy them the fancy baseball glove and
1:09:35
Speaker 4: the good cleats if you think that's what's. Important but
1:09:38
Speaker 4: there's no substitute for making the person earn the. Thing
1:09:42
Speaker 4: if you buy your way onto a travel basketball, team
1:09:46
Speaker 4: you're not actually better at, basketball Right and this is
1:09:52
Speaker 4: the thing that drives me so insane IS i hear
1:09:55
Speaker 4: parents and a lot of my friends have kids older
1:09:58
Speaker 4: than Because i'm an old, dad a lot of my
1:10:00
Speaker 4: friends have kids that are like heading into high school
1:10:03
Speaker 4: sports and stuff right, now and you hear some of
1:10:06
Speaker 4: them just being, like, oh, yeah you, know we're trying
1:10:10
Speaker 4: to get so and so is going to be a
1:10:12
Speaker 4: Scholarship it's, like, no so and so is going to
1:10:14
Speaker 4: be a scholarship athlete because of what they, do not
1:10:17
Speaker 4: because of what you. Do oh, no you got to
1:10:19
Speaker 4: get them on these competitive volleyball. Circuits you got to
1:10:22
Speaker 4: get them on these these certain, teams or else they
1:10:24
Speaker 4: don't get any. Attention And i'm just, like, yeah, okay
1:10:27
Speaker 4: there's probably some validity to validity to. That but if
1:10:31
Speaker 4: you think your kid is going to go play volleyball
1:10:33
Speaker 4: at Like, nebraska it's because they will find the elite.
1:10:38
Speaker 3: Athletes right, now there.
1:10:41
Speaker 4: Are college football programs AND nfl teams for that, matter
1:10:46
Speaker 4: that are going to the farthest reaches of The globe
1:10:49
Speaker 4: and finding monster bodies to put on their football. Fields
1:10:54
Speaker 4: if your kid's good, enough big, enough strong, enough fast,
1:10:57
Speaker 4: enough they don't fall through the cracks.
1:10:59
Speaker 3: Anymore it just does not.
1:11:00
Speaker 4: Happen you can't buy a child's way into elite status.
1:11:06
Speaker 4: Athletically i'm one hundred percent. Certain, Academically i'm also pretty.
1:11:11
Speaker 4: Certain so if you're, like, Hey i'm gonna buy my
1:11:14
Speaker 4: kids way Into, Harvard, okay, cool you bought your kids
1:11:17
Speaker 4: way Into, harvard your kid's not smart enough to go To,
1:11:20
Speaker 4: harvard you know.
1:11:21
Speaker 3: Bad that's gonna suck for your.
1:11:22
Speaker 4: Kid your friends might be, Impressed hey so and so
1:11:26
Speaker 4: got Into, Harvard, Great they're probably not gonna be that
1:11:30
Speaker 4: impressed when so and so has to drop out or
1:11:32
Speaker 4: gets kicked out because they've got a one point SEVEN,
1:11:35
Speaker 4: gpa because they're not prepared for. That this is one
1:11:39
Speaker 4: of the things That i'm most adamant, about but also
1:11:44
Speaker 4: most fearful love as a, parent is my kids like
1:11:48
Speaker 4: start to select their own things and try to do
1:11:50
Speaker 4: their own. Things my parents were excellent at this because
1:11:53
Speaker 4: of their own nonchalance when it came to. Athletics they
1:11:57
Speaker 4: were just, like, yeah, whatever like you're having. Fun, great
1:12:00
Speaker 4: are you? Playing are you working?
1:12:02
Speaker 3: Hard? Okay cool thumbs.
1:12:03
Speaker 4: UP i had friends that their parents were just, like
1:12:06
Speaker 4: you have to do, this you have to do, this
1:12:07
Speaker 4: you have to do, this you have to do. This
1:12:10
Speaker 4: and it was, like my parents are, like, well if
1:12:11
Speaker 4: you're gonna be on The All star, team it's because
1:12:12
Speaker 4: you worked your way onto The All star, team not
1:12:14
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i bought.
1:12:16
Speaker 3: A bunch of equipment for the.
1:12:17
Speaker 4: Team that's, like that's something we got to get used
1:12:21
Speaker 4: to in athletics and. Academics and this kid that's transferring
1:12:28
Speaker 4: and a lot of people think he's, gonna excuse, me
1:12:30
Speaker 4: end up At Texas.
1:12:31
Speaker 3: Tech he's a.
1:12:33
Speaker 4: Former dual threat quarterback recruit that moved to receiver and
1:12:38
Speaker 4: then is entering the transfer portal as a track. Athlete
1:12:41
Speaker 4: allegedly runs a four two eight forty by the, way pretty.
1:12:48
Speaker 3: Cool he allegedly might end up At Texas.
1:12:52
Speaker 4: Tech i've got a story for you later On Texas
1:12:56
Speaker 4: tech all the by the way that, UH i think
1:12:59
Speaker 4: you're really gonna LIKE i WANT i don't want to
1:13:00
Speaker 4: try to cram it in here BECAUSE i want to
1:13:02
Speaker 4: give it plenty of time to talk. About but, man
1:13:07
Speaker 4: we've got these, loopholes and this ONE i don't even
1:13:10
Speaker 4: think it is going to be necessary to close BECAUSE
1:13:13
Speaker 4: i just don't think there's that many people who are
1:13:15
Speaker 4: going to try to be two sport athletes in college
1:13:18
Speaker 4: just to keep a potential transfer portal window open for.
1:13:22
Speaker 5: Them, yeah there's only there's only a handful of elite
1:13:27
Speaker 5: like sprinters and, track track and field guys to be
1:13:30
Speaker 5: able to, like for, example Like Carson, gordon to be
1:13:35
Speaker 5: able to pull that.
1:13:36
Speaker 6: Off.
1:13:36
Speaker 4: Right, well as far AS i could, tell we've had
1:13:38
Speaker 4: one basketball player and one track. Athlete no, watch they'll
1:13:43
Speaker 4: be like a bunch of swimmers at some. Point swimmers,
1:13:47
Speaker 4: ALSO i also.
1:13:48
Speaker 5: Swim i'm a good basketball, player BUT i also.
1:13:52
Speaker 4: Swim, So, james do you have think about your? House
1:13:58
Speaker 4: close your eyes and picture your, house all of you
1:14:00
Speaker 4: out there unless you're, driving don't close your, eyes but,
1:14:02
Speaker 4: mentally picture you're a home.
1:14:05
Speaker 3: And tell the.
1:14:06
Speaker 4: Truth WHEN i asked this, question is there is there?
1:14:09
Speaker 4: Something is there a place in your home where you
1:14:12
Speaker 4: like store, things maybe in a corner that you absolutely
1:14:16
Speaker 4: should be finding a better place to store those.
1:14:17
Speaker 3: Things, absolutely it, changed it changed.
1:14:23
Speaker 5: Rooms we had a whole, room and then we and
1:14:25
Speaker 5: then we've, oh we've got A we've got a family
1:14:30
Speaker 5: member who's who's moved in, temporarily so we had to
1:14:32
Speaker 5: clear out that room and moved it to another.
1:14:34
Speaker 4: Room, okay SO i think EVERYONE'S i think everyone's house
1:14:37
Speaker 4: has probably several of.
1:14:39
Speaker 3: These my house certainly.
1:14:40
Speaker 4: Does where it's, like there's a much better place to
1:14:44
Speaker 4: store in our in our, house it's.
1:14:46
Speaker 3: Shoes there's a much better place to store these.
1:14:48
Speaker 4: Shoes and we just have like designated a shoe corner
1:14:52
Speaker 4: where it's just like we're just putting shoes in that.
1:14:54
Speaker 3: Corner it's not. Good buy a toat buy a.
1:14:58
Speaker 4: Basket we actually have a we actually have a shoe basket.
1:15:02
Speaker 3: Also but, anyway.
1:15:06
Speaker 4: It's acceptable in your. Home i'm not going to criticize
1:15:08
Speaker 4: you in your. Home we all do. This i'm not
1:15:10
Speaker 4: going to accept. It at A Grand slam tennis, event
1:15:15
Speaker 4: have you seen all the people that are getting hurt
1:15:18
Speaker 4: running into things At Roland. Garo's they roll up the
1:15:23
Speaker 4: tarps and they just kind of like tuck them against
1:15:25
Speaker 4: the wall on the, back something that.
1:15:27
Speaker 3: Would never happen At, wimbledon by the, way people are
1:15:31
Speaker 3: tripping over.
1:15:31
Speaker 4: Them professional tennis, athletes some of the best in the
1:15:34
Speaker 4: world are falling down because they're tripping over advertising.
1:15:39
Speaker 3: Boxes WHICH i get.
1:15:41
Speaker 4: It your sponsors want to put their product placement, signs
1:15:45
Speaker 4: like that's probably a harder one to. Manage but if
1:15:48
Speaker 4: you just have a rolled up tarp sitting in the,
1:15:50
Speaker 4: corner it's, Like utah, fans we know this, pain, Right
1:15:57
Speaker 4: why did you start a quarterback run into a table
1:16:00
Speaker 4: and injure his. Hand why is the table?
1:16:02
Speaker 3: There?
1:16:04
Speaker 4: Right don't put stuff where athletes can trip over it
1:16:07
Speaker 4: run into, it at least in the football, thing it's
1:16:09
Speaker 4: like removed from the field of.
1:16:10
Speaker 3: Competition it's on the.
1:16:11
Speaker 4: Sideline you should have had several people there to like
1:16:14
Speaker 4: absorb the.
1:16:15
Speaker 5: Momentum put your, BACKUP o line around the.
1:16:19
Speaker 4: Table, hey if he comes running in, here let him
1:16:23
Speaker 4: run into, you not onto the. Table, right they got
1:16:26
Speaker 4: rolled up, tarps they've got. Boxes not a good.
1:16:30
Speaker 5: Situation at roll On garros of all places like this
1:16:34
Speaker 5: is other Than. Wimbledon this is like the the iconic tennis,
1:16:42
Speaker 5: arena tennis center in the.
1:16:45
Speaker 4: World and you've got effectively and by the WAY i
1:16:52
Speaker 4: was looking AT i was analyzing how when the players
1:16:55
Speaker 4: were protesting over, THIS i was analyzing how how freely
1:17:01
Speaker 4: these little green logo boxes. MOVED i think they're. HEAVY
1:17:07
Speaker 4: i think they're like really heavy by. Design have you
1:17:10
Speaker 4: ever accidentally kicked a medicine ball instead of a soccer?
1:17:13
Speaker 3: Ball? Oh, yeah. Sucks you're, like oh, crap.
1:17:17
Speaker 4: IT'S i think that's the situation we've got, here where
1:17:19
Speaker 4: these athletes are, like, OH i better pick my foot
1:17:22
Speaker 4: up over. This oh, no it's just like green. Foam
1:17:24
Speaker 4: it'll move out of the. Way my foot will just
1:17:26
Speaker 4: knock it out of the. Way but then it doesn't
1:17:28
Speaker 4: knock out of the way because they it seems like
1:17:29
Speaker 4: they weigh.
1:17:30
Speaker 3: Like twenty pounds too, firm and.
1:17:32
Speaker 4: So it's, ah they got these poor tennis players bashing
1:17:36
Speaker 4: themselves into The La coast. Crocodile maybe it's an. Alligator,
1:17:41
Speaker 4: uh into the. Logo it's bad. News move your, stuff
1:17:45
Speaker 4: pick your stuff.
1:17:46
Speaker 3: Up Roland.
1:17:46
Speaker 5: GARROS i have a funny story about kicking, something kicking
1:17:51
Speaker 5: the wrong thing. RIGHT i had a good friend in high.
1:17:54
Speaker 5: School she's a three sport, athlete, basketball, soccer, softball incredible,
1:17:59
Speaker 5: athlete and one time she admitted to, me it still
1:18:05
Speaker 5: makes me still cracks me up that she'll be she's
1:18:08
Speaker 5: playing infield in, softball and she'll have her soccer instincts
1:18:12
Speaker 5: will come up.
1:18:12
Speaker 3: And she'll kick the, ball kick this.
1:18:15
Speaker 6: Song.
1:18:15
Speaker 5: Ow that hurts because you know she her. Brain the
1:18:19
Speaker 5: wires get. Crossed i'm, like oh my, gosh you got
1:18:24
Speaker 5: it when you're when you're a multi sport athlete like.
1:18:26
Speaker 5: THAT i, guess, UH i, guess wires get crossed like.
1:18:28
Speaker 4: That, unfortunately during today's, PRACTICE i heard a snap in
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Speaker 4: because it's just a talking about something that they're talking.
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Speaker 4: About but according To brett Or, mark The big Twelve
1:22:49
Speaker 4: conference is conversing about doing ten conference, games and those,
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Speaker 4: discussions according to, him will. Continue why, Why, brett why
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Speaker 4: why ten conference? Games isn't THE sec just now going
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Speaker 4: to nine and acc? Two, like if you're doing this
1:23:15
Speaker 4: so you have something more to complain about because you're
1:23:18
Speaker 4: the only one to play ten games where everyone else does.
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Speaker 3: Nine just keep it at.
1:23:22
Speaker 4: Nine let's let's go with some uniformity across all of college.
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Speaker 4: Football we've been asking for that for. Years you finally
1:23:29
Speaker 4: get it from THE sec and it's, like, oh, well
1:23:31
Speaker 4: we're gonna play ten conference? Games is this because you
1:23:35
Speaker 4: don't want to pay LIKE fcs opponents anymore to come?
1:23:39
Speaker 4: In you still need those tune up. Games why ten
1:23:44
Speaker 4: conference games in The big. Twelve what you need in
1:23:47
Speaker 4: The big twelve with your teams in The big twelve
1:23:49
Speaker 4: need is they need robust non conference schedules with good.
1:23:54
Speaker 4: Competition they need to win those games and elevate the
1:23:57
Speaker 4: profile of the. League The Big twelve doesn't get that
1:24:01
Speaker 4: advantage playing more conference. Games, yeah they might not get
1:24:06
Speaker 4: the advantage if they lose those don conference, games but
1:24:09
Speaker 4: at least you're not guaranteeing won less opportunity to elevate
1:24:13
Speaker 4: the profile of your.
1:24:14
Speaker 3: Conference, yeah this.
1:24:15
Speaker 5: Doesn't this doesn't help elevate the elevate the profile of
1:24:18
Speaker 5: the conference because they. Don't they're not going to value
1:24:21
Speaker 5: an Extra Big twelve. Win we saw that so many.
1:24:25
Speaker 5: Years you know this better than most covering The pac.
1:24:27
Speaker 5: Twelve SERIOUS. Xm how many times was The pac. Twelve
1:24:33
Speaker 5: they didn't have a great, team nationally recognize great team
1:24:38
Speaker 5: to make The College football, playoff but you had like
1:24:41
Speaker 5: five or six really good. Teams so no, one no
1:24:45
Speaker 5: one valued any of those conference wins because they're, like
1:24:47
Speaker 5: well they just they're just a bunch of average teams
1:24:49
Speaker 5: beating up on each. Other even if that's not the case.
1:24:53
Speaker 4: CORRECT i don't get, it, MAN i, like you could
1:24:58
Speaker 4: go undefeated in The big twelve and everyone else is
1:25:00
Speaker 4: gonna be, like, well they only Played big twelve.
1:25:02
Speaker 3: Teams it doesn't matter if it's one extra.
1:25:04
Speaker 5: Game it's interesting because you finally have a time where
1:25:08
Speaker 5: THE sec is finally on.
1:25:10
Speaker 3: Board is it next?
1:25:11
Speaker 5: SEASON i don't think it's this coming season where they're
1:25:13
Speaker 5: gonna have nine conference games like everyone, else and then
1:25:16
Speaker 5: you're just gonna be.
1:25:17
Speaker 3: Like, well now we're gonna do.
1:25:18
Speaker 5: Ten, no you the field is the playing fields even,
1:25:21
Speaker 5: now just leave.
1:25:22
Speaker 3: IT i don't get, It. Brett THE acc is an
1:25:26
Speaker 3: interesting one.
1:25:26
Speaker 5: TOO i think it was earlier in the, offseason end
1:25:30
Speaker 5: of the end of the season they announced they're gonna
1:25:33
Speaker 5: have they have eight Conference every team plays eight conference,
1:25:37
Speaker 5: games and because OF, smu they have an odd number of,
1:25:40
Speaker 5: teams so you have you have one or two teams
1:25:43
Speaker 5: that play, nine and that switches every. Year but then
1:25:47
Speaker 5: they're they're mandating Ten power four opponents on your schedule all.
1:25:53
Speaker 5: Year so depending on what the, year you have eight
1:25:58
Speaker 5: conference games and then you have to play two Other
1:26:00
Speaker 5: power four. Teams if you're AN acc team or you have,
1:26:04
Speaker 5: nine you have to play one Other, LIKE i don't
1:26:06
Speaker 5: see the point of making teams play one more well tough.
1:26:11
Speaker 4: Game the, thinking according to the, reports the thinking is
1:26:16
Speaker 4: an expanded college football playoff twenty four, teams which now
1:26:20
Speaker 4: The Big twelve, supports adds more spots for your teams,
1:26:25
Speaker 4: potentially but also you need a good. Resume and the
1:26:30
Speaker 4: thinking in The big twelve offices is, that, well this
1:26:33
Speaker 4: gives us another elite. Game but that's not what the
1:26:37
Speaker 4: landscape of college football has told. You they don't consider
1:26:41
Speaker 4: another win Over houston an elite.
1:26:44
Speaker 3: Game. Now is it A howston's, Ranks they're not going
1:26:48
Speaker 3: to consider. It is it a power four?
1:26:49
Speaker 8: Win?
1:26:49
Speaker 3: Yes BUT.
1:26:52
Speaker 4: I will die on the hill that you would be
1:26:54
Speaker 4: better served to do non conference. Games now they can't
1:26:59
Speaker 4: be cupcake, game but to do non conference games against
1:27:03
Speaker 4: the power forward, team that's what people want to. See
1:27:05
Speaker 4: that is actually what elevates the reputation and the reputation
1:27:11
Speaker 4: of Your big twelve. Teams, hey LOOK i went OUT
1:27:14
Speaker 4: i beat AN sec. Team, Look arkansas is not. Great
1:27:18
Speaker 4: they're not in a great situation as a program right.
1:27:20
Speaker 4: Now utah is gonna Beat arkansas In week. Two Hunter,
1:27:24
Speaker 4: yerchik there athletic director is gonna complain about it and
1:27:29
Speaker 4: blame it on the kickoff. Time but what's actually gonna
1:27:32
Speaker 4: be the case is people are gonna forget who it.
1:27:35
Speaker 4: Was and at the end of the, year If utah's
1:27:37
Speaker 4: got ten, wins we're gonna say and one of them
1:27:41
Speaker 4: is against AN sec, team and the committee is gonna be, like,
1:27:44
Speaker 4: oh and more, importantly just like the average college football
1:27:49
Speaker 4: pundit is gonna be, like, oh they beat AN sec,
1:27:51
Speaker 4: team or they'll throw it in.
1:27:52
Speaker 3: There look at.
1:27:53
Speaker 4: This The big twelve was blank and blank versus THE
1:27:57
Speaker 4: sec this, year and, like that's the that's the perfect.
1:28:00
Speaker 4: Game because a win Over, arkansas Even, arkansas is more
1:28:05
Speaker 4: valuable to A big twelve team than almost Any big twelve.
1:28:09
Speaker 4: WIN i hate that as much AS i don't want
1:28:11
Speaker 4: to say, that it's just the. Facts If baylor Beats,
1:28:15
Speaker 4: Auburn auburn isn't. Good auburn doesn't have to be. Good
1:28:18
Speaker 4: If baylor Beats, auburn Then baylor beat AN sec. Team
1:28:21
Speaker 4: that win For baylor is more valuable than almost Any
1:28:25
Speaker 4: big twelve. Win that is more valuable than any win
1:28:28
Speaker 4: except FOR Byu Texas, Tech utah and Probably Arizona, state
1:28:33
Speaker 4: Maybe arizona and maybe five. Teams, yeah and don't play
1:28:38
Speaker 4: ten conference game play nine.
1:28:41
Speaker 5: And nationally we've been talking about. This there's certain there's
1:28:45
Speaker 5: certain publications that have that are predicting a middle of
1:28:50
Speaker 5: the road in The big Twelve conference here For. Utah
1:28:53
Speaker 5: so they may not even Consider utah a big game
1:28:57
Speaker 5: until later in the, season when you, know if everything
1:29:00
Speaker 5: goes the Way utah fans wanted, to they're you, know
1:29:03
Speaker 5: they're vastly overachieving a court based on those. Things so it's,
1:29:08
Speaker 5: yeah playing Another big twelve game does nothing for. You
1:29:12
Speaker 5: THE ucla, game even Though ucla ended up being awful last,
1:29:16
Speaker 5: YEAR o, see was this kind of thing For utah.
1:29:18
Speaker 5: Too we they had no expectations going, in so no,
1:29:22
Speaker 5: one no one thought this was gonna be a great
1:29:25
Speaker 5: resume a huge resume builder For. Utah but it's, like,
1:29:28
Speaker 5: oh that's A big ten team on the. Road that's
1:29:31
Speaker 5: that's a pretty good way to start the. Season ended
1:29:33
Speaker 5: up it all tangible logic and everything was, like, well
1:29:38
Speaker 5: that's a TERRIBLE ucla, team but it's still A big
1:29:40
Speaker 5: ten team you, beat.
1:29:44
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Speaker 4: welcome into the. Show, First how are you? Great thank
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Speaker 17: Commitments so let me give you a statistic that suicide
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Speaker 4: Start, well and you brought up that statistic and it
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Speaker 4: really challenging time in the world for kids right now
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Speaker 4: with the social, media the, technology all the issues that
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Speaker 4: talk about. THIS i had it in the, notes we
1:37:28
Speaker 4: never got to. It Yanick, center number one tennis player
1:37:30
Speaker 4: in the, world on a thirty match win streak going
1:37:33
Speaker 4: all the way back To, february was a game away from,
1:37:36
Speaker 4: winning and you put this in your update, Yesterday. James
1:37:41
Speaker 4: but he he started to. Cramp he started to have
1:37:44
Speaker 4: problems in the, heat which has been the ultimate kryptonite
1:37:47
Speaker 4: For Yanick center in his. Career he started cramping and,
1:37:52
Speaker 4: collapsed epic.
1:37:53
Speaker 3: Collapse a game away from match.
1:37:56
Speaker 4: Point he was like a serve away for winning this,
1:37:59
Speaker 4: thing and he ended up losing and being eliminated by
1:38:03
Speaker 4: the number forty.
1:38:04
Speaker 3: SIX i think it was forty six ranked player in the.
1:38:06
Speaker 5: World, yeah unseated at The French, open ranked somewhere around around,
1:38:12
Speaker 5: there around forty six in the world tennis. Rankings one
1:38:16
Speaker 5: of the bigger upsets you'll see In Grand slam. Tennis
1:38:20
Speaker 5: and like you, said he go he wins, six, two,
1:38:24
Speaker 5: six three in the first two. Sets that's not like
1:38:28
Speaker 5: blanking somebody that's that's not even as dominant as a
1:38:32
Speaker 5: six to, one as a six to one kind of,
1:38:34
Speaker 5: thing but that's like a that's like a twenty point
1:38:37
Speaker 5: blowout in AN nba. Game so he he cruises through
1:38:40
Speaker 5: the first, two get through the first two. SETS i
1:38:43
Speaker 5: believe it was a seven to five. Game in the third,
1:38:46
Speaker 5: set like you, said really close to winning in straight.
1:38:52
Speaker 5: Sets and then the final two sets he gets he,
1:38:56
Speaker 5: goes he gets beat six to, one six to, one
1:38:59
Speaker 5: and so they heat of course got to. Him you
1:39:01
Speaker 5: know what you AND i say to people like keonic
1:39:05
Speaker 5: center can't stand the, Heat stay out of the.
1:39:08
Speaker 3: Kitchen the kitchen is the kitchen is more of a pickleball.
1:39:12
Speaker 3: Term that's.
1:39:12
Speaker 4: True just pretty, wild pretty wild to see that and
1:39:18
Speaker 4: Now Novak jokovic upset By Joal, fonseca A brazilian young,
1:39:24
Speaker 4: cat so.
1:39:25
Speaker 5: Another, unseated unseated player he may. Be, YEAH i think
1:39:31
Speaker 5: he's unseated anyway in The French open. Draw so, yeah
1:39:36
Speaker 5: that's a that's also a five. Setter that one was
1:39:39
Speaker 5: much closer than The center match ended up being in
1:39:43
Speaker 5: those final few. Games so some some fun upsets to,
1:39:47
Speaker 5: start but it makes you wonder who's gonna actually win this.
1:39:51
Speaker 4: Thing Jonick centner's opponent after the match, SET i actually
1:39:57
Speaker 4: feel bad for him because he deserved to win this,
1:39:59
Speaker 4: match BUT i don't know what.
1:40:00
Speaker 3: Happened, well what happened was he.
1:40:03
Speaker 4: Collapsed he started, cramping and there was actually some complaints
1:40:07
Speaker 4: That Yonic cinner was getting extra benefit because He's Yonic,
1:40:11
Speaker 4: center that he got to talk to the physiotherapist about
1:40:15
Speaker 4: which you're not supposed to be able, to like pause
1:40:19
Speaker 4: the consultation with the doctors and the healthcare professionals At
1:40:25
Speaker 4: Grand slam. Tournaments it's supposed to be for, injuries and
1:40:27
Speaker 4: cramping is not considered an. Injury so, everyone like the tennis,
1:40:33
Speaker 4: purists were, like what are you? Doing you're not you
1:40:36
Speaker 4: can't attend to. Him you can't try to help. Him
1:40:39
Speaker 4: this is a heat, issue this is a cramping. Issue
1:40:42
Speaker 4: these are the conditions of the court that everyone else
1:40:45
Speaker 4: has to deal. With you can't go help him and get,
1:40:48
Speaker 4: him give him like a time out because he's.
1:40:50
Speaker 5: Suffering lots of women listening right, now, going, really you
1:40:55
Speaker 5: can't work through?
1:40:57
Speaker 3: Cramping, really look.
1:41:02
Speaker 4: Not the, Same, okay, dehydration cramping not what we're.
1:41:06
Speaker 5: Not it not the same as what you're dealing. With
1:41:10
Speaker 5: any different kind of cramping. There, Hey by the, way
1:41:13
Speaker 5: twenty eighth seeded number twenty eight in The French open
1:41:16
Speaker 5: Draw shoeolt phone, second so.
1:41:18
Speaker 3: Pretty good, player not someone you'd expect to.
1:41:21
Speaker 5: Beat the third the third ranked, Player Novak, djokovic ninety,
1:41:26
Speaker 5: degrees by the, way for The Yonic center match on
1:41:29
Speaker 5: the clay At Roland, garros which In, europe which In
1:41:32
Speaker 5: europe is, uh that's, hot it's.
1:41:35
Speaker 3: Hot that's hot.
1:41:36
Speaker 5: HOT i, mean it's it's warm hot, anywhere but it's
1:41:43
Speaker 5: it's especially hot in places Like paris when they. Don't
1:41:46
Speaker 5: i'm sure they have air conditioning inside of rolling, garrols
1:41:49
Speaker 5: but they don't really have air.
1:41:50
Speaker 3: Conditioning most places In, europe like.
1:41:52
Speaker 4: That that's actually when you're being a tourist In, europe
1:41:55
Speaker 4: it's something that you fail to acknowledge sometimes that like
1:41:59
Speaker 4: your whole hotel room has air, conditioning because that's an
1:42:01
Speaker 4: expectation for hotel rooms to, have and you go out
1:42:04
Speaker 4: to the, restaurants you're just, like what is?
1:42:06
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1:42:09
Speaker 5: i suppose if you ask for, it they might put ice.
1:42:11
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1:42:14
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1:42:16
Speaker 5: that's something you, KNOW i mentioned served serve my mission
1:42:20
Speaker 5: In HUNGRY i was told by you, know THE mtc. Teachers,
1:42:25
Speaker 5: yeah like something you need to, know there's no air.
1:42:27
Speaker 5: Conditioning BUT i didn't necessarily believe it TILL i got over, There,
1:42:31
Speaker 5: like come, on it's it's back. Then it's you, know you,
1:42:34
Speaker 5: know we're in the twenty first. Century you're you're telling
1:42:36
Speaker 5: me that a developed country doesn't have air, conditioning and they're, like,
1:42:40
Speaker 5: yeah that's What i'm telling. You it's just not part
1:42:43
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1:42:44
Speaker 4: Wasn't didn't they have a weird thing about ice also
1:42:46
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1:42:49
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1:42:51
Speaker 5: Cold so that's another reason why they have superstition about
1:42:56
Speaker 5: about being, cold another reason why they didn't use air,
1:42:59
Speaker 5: conditioning because if you, were if you, were if you
1:43:03
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1:43:06
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1:43:08
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1:43:11
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1:43:16
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1:43:19
Speaker 3: Superstitions all, RIGHT i like just leave that right.
1:43:22
Speaker 4: There i'm sure It's i'm sure it's there's other places
1:43:26
Speaker 4: In europe that feel the same.
1:43:27
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1:43:28
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1:43:29
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1:43:31
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1:43:42
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1:43:49
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1:43:54
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1:45:04
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1:45:09
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1:45:12
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1:45:16
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1:45:19
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1:45:23
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1:45:28
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1:45:31
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1:45:34
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1:45:38
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1:45:40
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1:45:43
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1:45:46
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1:45:46
Speaker 3: BASKETBALL i don't mean to jump around too. Much But.
1:45:54
Speaker 4: Joelle, fonsaka they're showing him ON tv. Postmatch his team
1:45:58
Speaker 4: walks him, back they have a nice. Hug they celebrate
1:46:01
Speaker 4: together in kind of the bowels of you, know probably
1:46:04
Speaker 4: under the grandstand where the you, know players only, area
1:46:08
Speaker 4: and his coach you could, see puts him on a
1:46:11
Speaker 4: dang treadmill and gives him a, bottle not a treadmill
1:46:15
Speaker 4: and exercise. Bike he just played a match and Beat Novak,
1:46:20
Speaker 4: djokovic and now you're gonna put me on And i'm
1:46:22
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1:46:24
Speaker 3: Something one more of.
1:46:28
Speaker 4: The many reasons WHY i could not be a professional tennis,
1:46:30
Speaker 4: player because IF i had just Beat djokovic and then
1:46:33
Speaker 4: you're just, like, hey get on, that get on that
1:46:35
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1:46:38
Speaker 4: up this Is i'm.
1:46:40
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1:46:42
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1:46:45
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1:46:49
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1:46:51
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1:46:55
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1:46:59
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1:47:02
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1:47:04
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1:47:06
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1:47:09
Speaker 5: thing a postgame, lift. Right but then a lot of
1:47:13
Speaker 5: the former players are in the media were, like, well,
1:47:16
Speaker 5: no this isn't this isn't. Notable we all it's part
1:47:19
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1:47:21
Speaker 5: think Of Eric, weddle remember the conversation about you, know
1:47:25
Speaker 5: limiting injuries At utah and why why has it been a,
1:47:29
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1:47:32
Speaker 5: you got a, lift you don't, take you don't rest
1:47:35
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1:47:36
Speaker 3: Out pro athletes are just different that. Way, yeah. Yikes all,
1:47:43
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1:47:44
Speaker 5: The, way, sorry before we move off with The French,
1:47:45
Speaker 5: OPEN i believe the highest ranked and thus most notable
1:47:52
Speaker 5: men's player left in the field is The Canadian Felix
1:47:56
Speaker 5: ouge Alias. Siem of, course who's no who who was ranked?
1:48:00
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1:48:05
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1:48:11
Speaker 5: not won this tournament because we already said all of
1:48:13
Speaker 5: the former champions have been eliminated or they didn't play at,
1:48:16
Speaker 5: all Like carlos Alcaraz so, uh give me. Interesting gonna
1:48:21
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1:48:24
Speaker 5: maybe it's someone else from the men's side at The French.
1:48:29
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Speaker 4: texas AND i feel like there's not gonna be a
1:57:44
Speaker 4: lot of times Where i'm on board With Texas tech
1:57:48
Speaker 4: Or I'm I'm i'm feeling some.
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1:58:00
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1:58:03
Speaker 4: and steal all the good things In big twelve football
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Speaker 4: That utah and to a lesser extent by you want and.
1:58:11
Speaker 4: Have this is a team that is trying to push
1:58:14
Speaker 4: through a guy who is uh who's gambling on college
1:58:19
Speaker 4: sports to eligibility this. Year they might be exploiting loopholes
1:58:22
Speaker 4: in the transfer portal to get some depth in the quarterback.
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Speaker 3: ROOM i, mean there's a lot of times Where i'm
1:58:27
Speaker 3: just gonna rag On Texas. Tech but today is not that.
1:58:31
Speaker 4: Day Because Steve sarkisian didn't Name Texas, tech but was
1:58:36
Speaker 4: obviously talking About Texas tech when he was saying, like oh,
1:58:39
Speaker 4: yeah there's another team in our state that if they
1:58:42
Speaker 4: had to play our schedule would.
1:58:43
Speaker 3: Stink they'd be two and eight or Whatever Texas.
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Speaker 5: Tech he also, said if we played their schedule without
1:58:53
Speaker 5: our number, ones just our twos and, three.
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Speaker 3: Here's.
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Speaker 4: Lots, sorry terrible comment to, make but also it stirred
1:59:04
Speaker 4: up some things In. Lubbock and they've got this guy
1:59:07
Speaker 4: In Cody campbell who's, like, Fine i'll put my money
1:59:09
Speaker 4: where your mouth. Is And Texas tech made some phone
1:59:14
Speaker 4: calls To Texas state and To Abilene christian their their
1:59:20
Speaker 4: first two conference their first two non conference opponents on the,
1:59:22
Speaker 4: year and, said you know, what we would like to
1:59:27
Speaker 4: buy out of our game Against Abilene. Christian we would
1:59:30
Speaker 4: like to Schedule texas in order to in order to
1:59:37
Speaker 4: play against The longhorns In week.
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Speaker 3: One now.
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Speaker 4: To SAY i will not only buy out my, opponent
1:59:47
Speaker 4: BUT i will buy out your opponent is.
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Speaker 3: GANGSTER i was.
1:59:52
Speaker 5: WONDERING i didn't see that context in the ARTICLE i
1:59:55
Speaker 5: was reading about. It i'm, like, wait hold on playing
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Speaker 5: week One abilene and buy out. Two but they're buying
2:00:00
Speaker 5: Out texas is A? Christian Is Texas tech's opponent For week?
2:00:04
Speaker 5: One Texas state In San, marcos which is like right
2:00:09
Speaker 5: down the road From, austin is really that.
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Speaker 3: Close it's. Close it's SO.
2:00:15
Speaker 4: I Think austin And San antonio are like ninety minutes. Apart,
2:00:19
Speaker 4: yeah they're they're. Close, Well San marcos is between, them
2:00:24
Speaker 4: right in the. Middle, okay. Wow so it's like it's
2:00:26
Speaker 4: Like Saint george To mesquite kind of. Close, yeah it's
2:00:28
Speaker 4: like you, know it's it's Like Salt lake To probo
2:00:31
Speaker 4: kind of. Close and So Texas state Is Texas's week one,
2:00:35
Speaker 4: opponent And Texas tech is just, like, hey would you
2:00:39
Speaker 4: be interested in us buying out The texas?
2:00:41
Speaker 15: Game?
2:00:42
Speaker 4: Now for For Texas, state that's a money. Game so
2:00:47
Speaker 4: that's Probably, Christian, Yeah Abilee christian obviously. Too but For
2:00:50
Speaker 4: Texas state that's probably like a one, million one point
2:00:53
Speaker 4: five million dollar. Game And Cody campbell And Texas tech
2:00:56
Speaker 4: are just, like, yeah we'll buy you out so That
2:00:59
Speaker 4: texas has an opening and they can Play Texas. Tech
2:01:02
Speaker 4: and if you think that your twos and threes can beat,
2:01:06
Speaker 4: us or that your twos and threes are good enough
2:01:08
Speaker 4: to go undefeated in our, schedule why don't we play about.
2:01:10
Speaker 5: It let's fight about it. Instead, yeah why don't you
2:01:12
Speaker 5: Play why don't, wait here's the. Thing you have to
2:01:15
Speaker 5: play only your twos and threes when you play.
2:01:17
Speaker 4: Us, well they don't even they're not even putting that out,
2:01:19
Speaker 4: there But joey McGuire and everyone In Texas tech is just, like,
2:01:22
Speaker 4: fine then let's show.
2:01:23
Speaker 3: It AND i love this move for a lot of.
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Speaker 4: REASONS i love the attitude for, It, okay just because
2:01:29
Speaker 4: of the competitive attitude of. Shows this is something that
2:01:33
Speaker 4: we actually got to see a little bit of during
2:01:35
Speaker 4: THE covid, season where teams would have nobody to play
2:01:39
Speaker 4: and just be, like, oh well they dropped out of
2:01:41
Speaker 4: this game because OF covid protocols and the coaches that
2:01:45
Speaker 4: actually were, anybody, anytime any.
2:01:48
Speaker 3: Place that's what we want in. Sports.
2:01:51
Speaker 4: OKAY i know that there's big money associated with these,
2:01:55
Speaker 4: things AND i know you have to worry about, injuries
2:01:57
Speaker 4: AND i know all of that kind of. Stuff but,
2:02:00
Speaker 4: competitors the hardcore, competitors like the root of why you love.
2:02:05
Speaker 3: Sports you go back to when you were in fifth.
2:02:07
Speaker 4: Grade you go back to the elementary school, playground you
2:02:10
Speaker 4: go back to, whatever and someone was just, like, hey
2:02:12
Speaker 4: do you want to? Play and your answer was, yes
2:02:15
Speaker 4: and it was especially yes if it was somebody that
2:02:18
Speaker 4: you wanted to, beat somebody that you didn't, like if
2:02:21
Speaker 4: it was the neighbor kid that was bullying your little,
2:02:24
Speaker 4: brother or if it was the team across town that
2:02:28
Speaker 4: had the nicer. Uniforms, hey you want to play? Us,
2:02:31
Speaker 4: yes the answer is. Yes and you know, what sometimes
2:02:34
Speaker 4: when you said, yes you lost and you had to
2:02:39
Speaker 4: learn that.
2:02:39
Speaker 3: Lesson it was good for.
2:02:40
Speaker 4: Everyone Texas tech is throwing the gauntlet down and saying, like,
2:02:43
Speaker 4: okay tough, guy you have so much to say about
2:02:46
Speaker 4: how we aren't going up against something tough.
2:02:48
Speaker 3: Enough why don't you put yourself in front of?
2:02:51
Speaker 4: Us And Texas tech is, saying we will pay the
2:02:54
Speaker 4: buyouts For Aveline christian and For Texas. State and by the,
2:02:58
Speaker 4: way those two could then just play one, another yeah
2:03:01
Speaker 4: and still get the.
2:03:02
Speaker 3: Money everybody wins Here Texas.
2:03:06
Speaker 5: State by the, way is this the first year of
2:03:09
Speaker 5: the NEW pac twelve is that we're going Into is
2:03:11
Speaker 5: that still a little way? Off, no Big NEW pac. Twelve,
2:03:15
Speaker 5: yeah this. Year so this is the first year of
2:03:17
Speaker 5: The NEW pac. Twelve so they're not a power, conference
2:03:21
Speaker 5: but they're at a higher level Than Avelene. Christian Maybe
2:03:24
Speaker 5: Aveleen christian gets a little, bit gets a little bit
2:03:27
Speaker 5: more money out of, this Because Texas state's, like, yeah
2:03:29
Speaker 5: we'll pay you a little, bit not as much As
2:03:31
Speaker 5: texas would have paid. You so this could be particularly
2:03:35
Speaker 5: lucrative For Avelen christian if it turns out that.
2:03:38
Speaker 8: Way So.
2:03:41
Speaker 4: Texas and by the, way strategic move here By Texas
2:03:45
Speaker 4: tech because they know that there's absolutely no way in
2:03:49
Speaker 4: the hottest of hells That texas would respond correctly to,
2:03:55
Speaker 4: this that they would say they would, say.
2:03:56
Speaker 3: All, right, fine let's do.
2:03:57
Speaker 4: It you KNOW Whi texas Plays Texas state in week, One,
2:04:03
Speaker 4: James you know Who texas plays in week?
2:04:04
Speaker 6: Two is?
2:04:06
Speaker 3: It is it AN sec? Team?
2:04:09
Speaker 8: No it is.
2:04:09
Speaker 5: Not are they Playing Ohio state? Again they Play Ohio
2:04:13
Speaker 5: state in week? TWO i forget because they played in THE.
2:04:16
Speaker 5: Sea they already played two years in a, row because
2:04:18
Speaker 5: they played in THE. Cfp, yeah this is the last
2:04:20
Speaker 5: of Their.
2:04:21
Speaker 3: So my grievance is with, you because there's you caused
2:04:25
Speaker 3: this problem for.
2:04:26
Speaker 4: Yourself you had to open your big dumb mouth and
2:04:30
Speaker 4: start talking about how THE sec is so superior and
2:04:34
Speaker 4: What texas is doing is so. Superior to anything that's
2:04:36
Speaker 4: happened in the Big twill school in our home, state
2:04:39
Speaker 4: that we could beat with our twos and, threes we'd
2:04:41
Speaker 4: be undefitting their. Schedule you didn't have to say, that,
2:04:44
Speaker 4: right and now you have to be the ones your
2:04:47
Speaker 4: school has to be the one that tucks their tail
2:04:49
Speaker 4: between their.
2:04:49
Speaker 3: Legs it, says we didn't actually.
2:04:51
Speaker 9: Mean what we.
2:04:51
Speaker 5: Said actually we MEANT. Tcu you you totally Are. Baylor
2:04:56
Speaker 5: that's what you, say, like, oh, sorry we didn't mean you.
2:04:58
Speaker 5: Guys we we're actually referring To Texas. State We sark's
2:05:04
Speaker 5: gonna have to come out with the public.
2:05:05
Speaker 3: State BUT i was talking.
2:05:06
Speaker 4: About Abilene christian, guys so everybody in walking we could.
2:05:11
Speaker 4: Down we could defeat their schedule with our, twos with their.
2:05:15
Speaker 4: Furs maybe all due respect to the fcs Abiwayen Christian.
2:05:20
Speaker 4: UH i also love that this IS i wrote it
2:05:23
Speaker 4: in the notes like, this because this is Not joey
2:05:25
Speaker 4: McGuire Versus. Sark this Is joey McGuire Slash Cody campbell
2:05:29
Speaker 4: slashed The big twelve Versus. Sark because McGuire hears that and, says,
2:05:36
Speaker 4: okay let's talk to these opponents like he, says we
2:05:39
Speaker 4: would love to Play. Texas Cody campbell hears that and, Goes,
2:05:42
Speaker 4: Okay i've already Called Texas state With, joey And i've
2:05:45
Speaker 4: Called Abwaine. Christian we've got we've got a conversation in
2:05:49
Speaker 4: place about buying both of those both those teams, out
2:05:52
Speaker 4: so that there's so the schedule's quered for week one
2:05:54
Speaker 4: for both of. Us big twelve hears about this and,
2:05:56
Speaker 4: says all, right we're gonna we're gonna remote this on
2:06:00
Speaker 4: our social media and we're gonna tell the. Story maguire
2:06:04
Speaker 4: has talked To Texas state And Nabling christian would love
2:06:07
Speaker 4: to buy those games out to Play texas in week,
2:06:08
Speaker 4: one if not love it eight then at AND T.
2:06:10
Speaker 4: Stadium so it Like sark makes a statement by himself
2:06:15
Speaker 4: and then he gets three Influential big twelve, People Texas
2:06:19
Speaker 4: tech people in, particular coming right back at.
2:06:22
Speaker 3: HIM i love the gang up On sark.
2:06:25
Speaker 5: Thing this is the second time in like what six
2:06:29
Speaker 5: weeks less than that he said that stupid thing about
2:06:32
Speaker 5: basket weaving and ole miss and had to walk those.
2:06:35
Speaker 3: Back it's, like, hey maybe just focus on. YOURSELF i just.
2:06:39
Speaker 4: Also, like are we pretending that the student athletes at
2:06:45
Speaker 4: The university Of texas are not given cupcake academic schedules
2:06:50
Speaker 4: and tutoring and nerdy kids to do their homework for.
2:06:54
Speaker 3: Them stop. It, No texas Is. Stanford did you know?
2:06:57
Speaker 3: That you didn't know?
2:06:58
Speaker 4: That, Like texas is a tough school to get into
2:07:01
Speaker 4: if you're a tuba, major if you're a football, player
2:07:05
Speaker 4: you're getting in and they're not making you do anything.
2:07:08
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2:07:28
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2:07:42
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2:07:46
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2:07:50
Speaker 4: Team they've been To Death, valley they played night games In.
2:07:56
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2:07:59
Speaker 3: You scared of doing it in the.
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2:08:05
Speaker 4: we're gonna get back at six.
2:08:07
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2:08:14
Speaker 5: pac twelve For. Utah so many years in THE pac. Twelve,
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Speaker 4: Health can our governments please start spending money on our,
2:08:31
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2:08:34
Speaker 3: Teachers both of my school age kids.
2:08:36
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2:08:40
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Speaker 4: Parts let's please put some money where it should go our. Teachers,
2:08:47
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Speaker 3: WEEK i.
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Speaker 4: WILL i will not accept a raise on my taxes
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2:09:03
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Speaker 4: one percent on your taxes or, something and that money
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2:09:10
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2:09:15
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2:09:22
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2:09:26
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Speaker 4: Utah we have really screwed this up because this is
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2:09:41
Speaker 3: Kids everything is about. Kids everything is about.
2:09:43
Speaker 4: Kids except we're like forty eighth in the nation in
2:09:47
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2:09:50
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2:09:54
Speaker 4: i the special needs community as a place very near
2:09:57
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Speaker 3: Your grievance, there.
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Speaker 4: and their work all. Day your brain is, beautiful Dot.
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Speaker 4: ORG i know this is near and dear to your
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Speaker 4: heart because you know you've, had like many of us,
2:12:19
Speaker 4: do people close to, you struggled with mental health and
2:12:22
Speaker 4: it's something that you, know we just have to to
2:12:25
Speaker 4: stay up, on we have to pay attention.
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Speaker 3: To but but why be so active With Huntsman Mental.
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Speaker 18: Health, well when my, brother uh you, know completed his
2:12:39
Speaker 18: act back in the, DAY i was out playing and.
2:12:42
Speaker 11: Came home and wanted to talk to his friends my,
2:12:46
Speaker 11: City Tearesville High school.
2:12:47
Speaker 10: Itself because he was a pretty popular. Kid bucks are
2:12:52
Speaker 10: known around his athletes at the time him being announced
2:12:55
Speaker 10: that he was this first Bull Chip All. AMERICAN i
2:12:57
Speaker 10: wanted to speak to, people and not only to speak to,
2:13:00
Speaker 10: him not you, know tell him that it wasn't. Right
2:13:02
Speaker 10: and here's some THINGS i could have, done BUT i
2:13:05
Speaker 10: was told to be, quiet WHERE i was almost felt
2:13:08
Speaker 10: to be ashamed of what was going, on to WHERE
2:13:11
Speaker 10: i really felt that where he missed the, boat WHERE
2:13:13
Speaker 10: i could have talked about and advocated for some things
2:13:16
Speaker 10: that he could have done, better stayed active on his mental,
2:13:19
Speaker 10: health stayed active on his prescription him being, bipolar and
2:13:24
Speaker 10: or be active because back in the, day we used
2:13:27
Speaker 10: to lead with hitting with our head, right and that
2:13:30
Speaker 10: is kind of WHERE i found a lot of, his
2:13:32
Speaker 10: which Why i've paid extension to. Mine WHEN i got the,
2:13:35
Speaker 10: YIPS i really paid close attention to my mental health
2:13:39
Speaker 10: BECAUSE i didn't want to go down that, health SO
2:13:41
Speaker 10: i leaned into it and it never got to the
2:13:43
Speaker 10: point where my brothers. WAS i was able to maintain
2:13:47
Speaker 10: it and fall, forward if you, will because of that.
2:13:50
Speaker 4: Experience SO i mean athletes, experienced you, know LIKE i,
2:13:54
Speaker 4: think a heavy workload demand on mental health because not
2:13:58
Speaker 4: only do you have to perform your, job you have
2:14:00
Speaker 4: to do it kind of in the public, eye but for,
2:14:03
Speaker 4: everyone for, people you, know the postman out, there for
2:14:06
Speaker 4: the accountants out, there for the insurance salesman out. THERE i,
2:14:10
Speaker 4: mean there's pressure on everybody in their, life and you
2:14:13
Speaker 4: spent an entire career figuring out ways to handle that,
2:14:17
Speaker 4: pressure developing tools to make sure that that pressure didn't
2:14:21
Speaker 4: overwhelm you from a mental health, Standpoint and obviously The
2:14:23
Speaker 4: Huntsmen foundation is a place where people can find, out you,
2:14:28
Speaker 4: know how to apply that to their own.
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Speaker 11: Lives, yeah they've really tabled the conversation and given me
2:14:34
Speaker 11: an opportunity to express and table. It why, baseball the,
2:14:39
Speaker 11: game and life and first responders are. SIMILAR i have
2:14:44
Speaker 11: a quote from THAT i learned That it really hit
2:14:46
Speaker 11: me WHEN i was. YOUNG i Heard Tom house said
2:14:49
Speaker 11: baseball is a negative game taught by negative people wanting positive.
2:14:54
Speaker 8: Results and think about a first.
2:14:56
Speaker 11: Responder that's a negative job around negative things that are,
2:15:02
Speaker 11: happening and we as public we demand them for excellence and,
2:15:06
Speaker 11: execution and if they, don't we ridicule. Them that's a
2:15:09
Speaker 11: hard spot to be in mental health and to table
2:15:12
Speaker 11: that conversation because there's a lot of that going, on
2:15:14
Speaker 11: especially here in our. State for The Hunts Memental Institute
2:15:17
Speaker 11: foundation to step up and be, like, hey let's have these.
2:15:21
Speaker 11: Conversations that's the CONVERSATION i didn't get to have with
2:15:24
Speaker 11: my brother and then my. Mom so it's like it
2:15:27
Speaker 11: hit me. Twice so now to be able to have
2:15:29
Speaker 11: that conversation as the, MASSES i feel really.
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Speaker 4: defeat mental illness as a. Whole, john appreciate you being
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Speaker 4: involved in the show today and everything you're doing to
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Speaker 4: help out The Huntsman Mental Health.
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Speaker 8: For giving me the opportunity to be a part of.
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Speaker 4: You John buck Former utah baseball, player Longtime major, Leaguer
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Speaker 4: and When john was in studio with us earlier, TODAY
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Speaker 4: i shared this with, him BUT i WAS i was
2:16:22
Speaker 4: a year behind his Brother Paul buck in, school and back,
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Speaker 4: Then utah was not really on the map from a
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Speaker 4: national recruiting and national football kind of, thing, right and you,
2:16:39
Speaker 4: know there were just not a ton of people getting
2:16:41
Speaker 4: attention from in high school. Football and his brother At,
2:16:46
Speaker 4: taylorsville which was not like a powerhouse. Program his brother
2:16:50
Speaker 4: was one of those guys that if you were a
2:16:52
Speaker 4: year younger LIKE i, was or you were younger at,
2:16:54
Speaker 4: all or even, older you were just, like oh my,
2:16:56
Speaker 4: gosh who is this? Superhuman and very tragically he ended
2:17:01
Speaker 4: up taking his own life and it was a big,
2:17:03
Speaker 4: story AND i didn't know him, personally BUT i remember
2:17:07
Speaker 4: being you, know when you're a high school you're just, like,
2:17:10
Speaker 4: wait what that doesn't make any? Sense and it still
2:17:12
Speaker 4: as a grown, adult doesn't make intuitive, sense, Right it
2:17:16
Speaker 4: doesn't make logical. Sense BUT i remember being a young
2:17:19
Speaker 4: person be, like, no, no, no, no that guy has it.
2:17:22
Speaker 4: All that's not the kind of person that does. This
2:17:26
Speaker 4: AND i only bring that up because it's something that
2:17:29
Speaker 4: WE i still think we need to be more aware,
2:17:32
Speaker 4: of where, like it's not always people that are the you,
2:17:36
Speaker 4: know the emo kid that doesn't talk to anybody in the.
2:17:38
Speaker 4: Corner it's not always that person that's struggling with mental.
2:17:42
Speaker 4: Health so check in on all your, people even the
2:17:44
Speaker 4: ones who have it going really, well who are smiling
2:17:46
Speaker 4: all the, time who it seems like everything's going their. Way,
2:17:51
Speaker 4: Yeah and just just briefly, HERE i just wanted to
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Speaker 4: to Add I've i've, Been I've i've shared my personal
2:18:01
Speaker 4: story with with, grief losing both my parents already one
2:18:07
Speaker 4: is a one as a teenager and one a few years,
2:18:10
Speaker 4: ago and that that has been quite The and those
2:18:16
Speaker 4: that have lost any loved ones or or close, friends
2:18:19
Speaker 4: whatever it might, be you understand just the toll that
2:18:23
Speaker 4: grief can can have on your mental. Health in, Particular
2:18:27
Speaker 4: that's been something That i've had to navigate. Through and
2:18:33
Speaker 4: it's it's. Tough it's.
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Speaker 5: Been it's been even it's weird how much becoming a
2:18:40
Speaker 5: parent has kind of dredged some of that up, too
2:18:42
Speaker 5: Because i've gotten the you, know he loves his he
2:18:46
Speaker 5: loves his grandma and grandpa that are here by in,
2:18:49
Speaker 5: laws my my wife's, parents who are. Incredible he loves
2:18:54
Speaker 5: them so. Much there's a part of me that, goes,
2:18:57
Speaker 5: MAN i he doesn't get to have that with my,
2:19:00
Speaker 5: parents which you, know dredges a lot of that stuff
2:19:05
Speaker 5: up been through different not ever clinically, diagnosed but been
2:19:10
Speaker 5: through different bouts with. Depression because of that and other,
2:19:13
Speaker 5: things you try to put on a brave. Face but
2:19:17
Speaker 5: like you, said we're getting to a point where maybe we.
2:19:19
Speaker 5: Don't maybe you don't have to always have the brave face.
2:19:22
Speaker 5: On maybe maybe it's okay and not maybe it is
2:19:26
Speaker 5: okay to to kind of share, yourself unburden. Yourself like
2:19:29
Speaker 5: we talk about tongue in cheek with airing of. Grievances,
2:19:32
Speaker 5: yeah this, segment but in a serious. Way so just
2:19:36
Speaker 5: anyone that's whatever it is that is taking a toll
2:19:40
Speaker 5: on your mental. Health for me, personally it's been it's
2:19:43
Speaker 5: been my it's been my grief losing my. Parents that
2:19:46
Speaker 5: just sticks with. You many of you similar thing with.
2:19:51
Speaker 5: That maybe you're clinically diagnosed with, something maybe you're, not
2:19:55
Speaker 5: and you're, realizing, hey MAYBE i do need to see
2:19:57
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Speaker 19: Spence how are, You i'm, well good work. Today you,
2:21:33
Speaker 19: know days like this for us are are. Cool it's
2:21:36
Speaker 19: kind of like what we do for the road home,
2:21:39
Speaker 19: oftentimes maybe you can relate to. This the show ends
2:21:43
Speaker 19: and you drive, home you're, LIKE i didn't do anything
2:21:45
Speaker 19: notable today at. All all it is broke Down okac's
2:21:49
Speaker 19: pick and roll defense and talked about the college football.
2:21:51
Speaker 19: Schedule so when you have the opportunity to support an
2:21:55
Speaker 19: endeavor like this that needs support because of the important
2:22:00
Speaker 19: work they're, doing so good job today from WHAT i
2:22:03
Speaker 19: could hear driving around, town and, yeah we'll do what
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Speaker 19: we can to continue it throughout the course of the.
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Speaker 3: Afternoon So game.
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Speaker 4: Seven was forced last. Night so The san atoi s
2:22:12
Speaker 4: first kind of a blowout victory For San. Antonio and
2:22:16
Speaker 4: it was interesting because if you were listening to some
2:22:19
Speaker 4: radio shows national radio on my way to work, yesterday you,
2:22:22
Speaker 4: know there's, like, oh, YEAH i think this one's. Over
2:22:24
Speaker 4: it feels like The spurs kind ofly had that realization
2:22:28
Speaker 4: like we're not there, Yet and obviously the people that
2:22:32
Speaker 4: actually matter in that organization don't feel that way, well
2:22:35
Speaker 4: and it really.
2:22:36
Speaker 19: Was and he's only twenty two years. Old Victor wemberiam
2:22:41
Speaker 19: is twenty two years. Old he came out and, said no,
2:22:44
Speaker 19: today eleven first quarter points. Knock they hit eight threes
2:22:48
Speaker 19: in the first, quarter But. John the interesting thing, Is
2:22:50
Speaker 19: Oklahoma city held the line right like. It it felt
2:22:54
Speaker 19: Like San antonio brought this, wave as young teams will
2:22:57
Speaker 19: do at, home and it felt like they were gonna
2:23:00
Speaker 19: away from, them But Oklahoma city stayed right.
2:23:02
Speaker 3: There it was the third quarter where they went on
2:23:05
Speaker 3: a twenty to zero.
2:23:06
Speaker 19: Run Stefan castle was like TACKLING sga and the rest
2:23:11
Speaker 19: swallowed their whistles for the most, part WHICH i think
2:23:13
Speaker 19: you should do in postseason. BASKETBALL i, WOULD i honestly
2:23:18
Speaker 19: would be surprised If San antonio Wins game. SEVEN i
2:23:21
Speaker 19: THINK okc back at. Home you, know the The Alex,
2:23:25
Speaker 19: caruso's some of the bench, players you, know the case
2:23:28
Speaker 19: In wallace is they've just played much better at. Home
2:23:31
Speaker 19: and For jazz, Fans Oklahoma city's home court advantage in the,
2:23:35
Speaker 19: postseason it's a lot like The Delta, center where The
2:23:37
Speaker 19: jazz are, good those fans are, nuts and they're.
2:23:40
Speaker 3: Right on top of.
2:23:40
Speaker 19: You the building is built a little bit like The
2:23:42
Speaker 19: Delta center was for. Basketball so, look Love game. Seven
2:23:46
Speaker 19: excited for tomorrow. Night i'm leaning, okase but twenty two years,
2:23:50
Speaker 19: old this league is going to belong To victor Wembin
2:23:53
Speaker 19: yama for a long.
2:23:54
Speaker 3: Time, agreed no, notes no.
2:23:58
Speaker 4: Notes love it that you have to separate how exciting
2:24:03
Speaker 4: that is from the fact that The Utah jazz are
2:24:05
Speaker 4: actually going to be trying to compete with them sooner than.
2:24:07
Speaker 19: YEAH i mean both like, yeah and both these teams quite,
2:24:11
Speaker 19: FRANKLY i, mean you, know at least The jazz will
2:24:13
Speaker 19: be back in the mix to be decent next. Year
2:24:16
Speaker 19: but it is the airing of the, Grievances so grievance
2:24:18
Speaker 19: Against San antonio And Oklahoma city for being so good
2:24:20
Speaker 19: and so.
2:24:21
Speaker 3: YOUNG i like that.
2:24:22
Speaker 4: Grievance, echoede stay tuned for the. Drive thanks for listening
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