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- 0:03Speaker 1: The system's going clear to the leftop.
- 0:34Speaker 2: What's up everyone?
- 0:35Speaker 3: Tyler Tamberline here aka to Tag and Tambo back for another.
- 0:39Speaker 2: Edition of Leverage Lane.
- 0:40Speaker 3: We got week ten nfl DFS gonna be breaking all
- 0:43Speaker 3: things down when it comes to ownership, maybe not in
- 0:46Speaker 3: the way you always hear it. We've had some interesting
- 0:48Speaker 3: takes even pre show to go through this. You'll definitely
- 0:50Speaker 3: want to stick around for that. As it affects single entry.
- 0:52Speaker 3: Our focus is as usual on GPPs, but at a
- 0:56Speaker 3: single entry up process, so you guys can put it
- 0:58Speaker 3: together for three max twenty max strap laid out from there,
- 1:01Speaker 3: Stage two of Leverage Lane, going down the lane as
- 1:03Speaker 3: we're going to get to the common built, how it
- 1:05Speaker 3: all fits together, what people are doing, and look for
- 1:07Speaker 3: ways to leverage that.
- 1:08Speaker 2: And at the very end, Alex and myself will take
- 1:10Speaker 2: all the.
- 1:10Speaker 3: Information we've got throughout the show to go with our
- 1:13Speaker 3: Leverage Lane and Alex I'll kick it over to you.
- 1:15Speaker 1: Man.
- 1:15Speaker 2: We were I will say this.
- 1:17Speaker 3: Uticao won the five fifty five million maker last week
- 1:19Speaker 3: with a quad stack, so we were on the right
- 1:22Speaker 3: track when it came to that. But what was your
- 1:23Speaker 3: thoughts on last week? Will recap it a little bit first,
- 1:25Speaker 3: and how you doing this week?
- 1:26Speaker 2: My friend?
- 1:27Speaker 4: Week ten, we made it, Yeah, I was. I was
- 1:29Speaker 4: kind of bummed with that slate I had. I had
- 1:32Speaker 4: a triple stack with Daniel Jones and my thought kind
- 1:35Speaker 4: of going in was, if they finally have a week
- 1:38Speaker 4: where Jonathan Taylor doesn't score multiple touchdowns, this Daniel jonesack
- 1:41Speaker 4: is going off. And it actually did pretty well. Even
- 1:44Speaker 4: triple stacks worked if you had downs instead of Tyler Warren,
- 1:48Speaker 4: but instead of them producing the same amount that they
- 1:52Speaker 4: had been producing, it was just they scored multiple touchdowns
- 1:55Speaker 4: fewer than they had been scoring. So it was a
- 1:57Speaker 4: solid week. It wasn't a great week, but I I
- 2:00Speaker 4: really really like this lay ahead of us.
- 2:02Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a good one. I'm gonna do a couple
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- 2:47Speaker 2: Alex.
- 2:48Speaker 3: I want to do what we usually do and just
- 2:49Speaker 3: go through some of the positions and look at sort
- 2:52Speaker 3: of what we're seeing. I think we got some interesting
- 2:54Speaker 3: thoughts right here right away, especially as it retains to
- 2:56Speaker 3: single entry, where things typically spread out a little bit further,
- 3:00Speaker 3: I shouldn't spread out actually opposite where you will see
- 3:02Speaker 3: more of a let's say, popular running back in the
- 3:05Speaker 3: twenty dollars million maker where we're getting most ownership. For that,
- 3:08Speaker 3: we'll start to get much higher owned or projected higher owned,
- 3:12Speaker 3: which is the keyword there when you get to looking
- 3:13Speaker 3: at the single entry, higher dollar, smaller field stuff. So
- 3:17Speaker 3: what are you sort of seeing right now when it
- 3:18Speaker 3: comes to some of the positional stuff.
- 3:21Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it. The first thing I'll say is like,
- 3:24Speaker 4: this is a more spread out week of ownership than
- 3:27Speaker 4: a lot of the weeks that we've had in the
- 3:30Speaker 4: last month or so, so that part of it is nice.
- 3:33Speaker 4: I think the only guy that I have at forty percent,
- 3:36Speaker 4: and again this is like, this is the first weekend
- 3:39Speaker 4: at least a month where only one guy has been
- 3:42Speaker 4: projected over forty percent for us in single entries. That's
- 3:44Speaker 4: Rico Daubtle at sixty three hundred against the Saints. I
- 3:48Speaker 4: think that it's probably still good chalk, just because he
- 3:51Speaker 4: seems like a very true bell count now and it's
- 3:54Speaker 4: it's gonna be really difficult for the game script to
- 3:56Speaker 4: not go his way. Like that's you know, he's the
- 3:58Speaker 4: type of running back who, by far, like the number
- 4:02Speaker 4: one way he fails is that the game script gets
- 4:04Speaker 4: out of hand and he just doesn't get the touches,
- 4:06Speaker 4: he doesn't get the touchdowns. But against New Orleans and
- 4:09Speaker 4: that in aft offense. That seems like a really unlikely outcome.
- 4:12Speaker 4: So I think he's pretty good Chuck, but certainly not
- 4:15Speaker 4: a lock for me. And then beyond that, you got
- 4:19Speaker 4: McCaffrey thirty three point six percent, that's the lowest he's been.
- 4:22Speaker 4: You have a very very spread out wide receiver, especially
- 4:25Speaker 4: like upper echelon with wide receiver Smith and Jigba Poka,
- 4:28Speaker 4: I'm on Rassain Brown all kind of stealing from each other.
- 4:31Speaker 4: And then you do have one mid tier wide receiver
- 4:34Speaker 4: who looks like he's gonna be very popular in zay flowers.
- 4:38Speaker 4: I'm kind of curious your thoughts there, because this is
- 4:40Speaker 4: not the first time we have seen Zay project for
- 4:43Speaker 4: a massive ownership around the industry. The last time we
- 4:46Speaker 4: had Lamar ruled out on I think it was either
- 4:49Speaker 4: Saturday or maybe even Sunday morning, and day still ended
- 4:53Speaker 4: up like twenty five percent with Huntley, So that surprised me.
- 4:56Speaker 4: It makes me think that there's actually like a real
- 4:59Speaker 4: floor to his ownership. This week against Minnesota.
- 5:02Speaker 3: It seems legit to me, like there's one that doesn't
- 5:04Speaker 3: seem legit, which we'll get to it a little bit.
- 5:06Speaker 3: I think we might save that for segment two. I
- 5:08Speaker 3: think a lot of people think one thing and then
- 5:10Speaker 3: I actually think it's the opposite. Both of us only
- 5:11Speaker 3: get to talk five minutes or so pre show. But
- 5:13Speaker 3: it was funny.
- 5:14Speaker 2: You just asked the question and I answered it, and
- 5:15Speaker 2: we ended up being on the same page. What was Zay?
- 5:17Speaker 2: I think you nailed it with that statement.
- 5:19Speaker 3: It was I remember it because we talked about it
- 5:21Speaker 3: with like if this then that type scenario on a
- 5:23Speaker 3: Saturday about what would happen if Lamar was actually ruled out,
- 5:27Speaker 3: and then it ended up that he was. They gave
- 5:29Speaker 3: him one more week to get through to the Thursday
- 5:31Speaker 3: night football game or whatever it was with against Miami.
- 5:34Speaker 3: So that was a week where you saw what happens
- 5:36Speaker 3: with Zay ownership. Based off of that, it still kind
- 5:38Speaker 3: of was there this week.
- 5:39Speaker 2: He's, you know, in single.
- 5:40Speaker 3: Entry at just fifty nine hundred dollars. I think there's
- 5:43Speaker 3: enough people on Lamar and enough willing to go to again,
- 5:46Speaker 3: not like it's gonna be high owned, but willing to
- 5:48Speaker 3: at least consider JJ McCarthy after what they saw last
- 5:50Speaker 3: week to say, Okay, he's gonna be in the mix somehow.
- 5:54Speaker 3: What's your thoughts, soul, because you always have a good
- 5:56Speaker 3: t you know, sort of thought process around this stuff.
- 5:58Speaker 2: Is Zay as a one off.
- 6:02Speaker 4: I'm definitely not interested in it. I think there are
- 6:06Speaker 4: worse one offs. So the main concern that I have
- 6:10Speaker 4: here is if he has a huge game, it's just
- 6:13Speaker 4: too likely that he's bringing Lamar Jackson with him. Because
- 6:15Speaker 4: of what Lamar does with his legs as well, and
- 6:17Speaker 4: because Lamar isn't two percent on, he's probably gonna be eight, nine,
- 6:21Speaker 4: ten something like that. That's just a little bit more
- 6:25Speaker 4: competition than what I'd like from one off wide receiver.
- 6:28Speaker 4: Now he's at least somebody who he can get there
- 6:31Speaker 4: on receptions in yards alone, is very touchdown independent, even
- 6:35Speaker 4: though like obviously, if if he gives you thirty five
- 6:37Speaker 4: this week instead of twenty five, it's because he scored
- 6:40Speaker 4: once or twice, whereas typically you know, his twenty twenty
- 6:43Speaker 4: two point performance is just coming on yardage and receptions.
- 6:47Speaker 4: So the ceiling is still going to bring Lamar with him,
- 6:52Speaker 4: and that's why I'm I'm probably not on him. The
- 6:56Speaker 4: one way I might play him is if you just
- 6:58Speaker 4: slipped the build and you said, okay, what if if
- 7:00Speaker 4: it's Minnesota. Instead, what if it's McCarthy, Jefferson Addison and
- 7:04Speaker 4: then I'll bring it back with Zay and maybe Derrick Henry.
- 7:06Speaker 4: And now I'm telling the story of Baltimore puts up
- 7:08Speaker 4: a lot of points. It's because they move the ball
- 7:11Speaker 4: in chunks with Flowers and maybe Henry gets a long one,
- 7:14Speaker 4: but when they get to the red zone, it's Dereck
- 7:16Speaker 4: Henry punching it in. He has a three touchdown game, say,
- 7:19Speaker 4: has one hundred and fifty receiving yards, and then McCarthy
- 7:23Speaker 4: ends about scoring Lamar Jackson that way. So that's the
- 7:25Speaker 4: kind of lineup that I would really consider him in.
- 7:28Speaker 4: But other than that, I'm not gonna use him as
- 7:30Speaker 4: a one off.
- 7:31Speaker 3: I like there was a little Isaiah joke in there.
- 7:33Speaker 3: We said it's with Zay Flowers, it's too likely that this,
- 7:36Speaker 3: So yeah, it could be a Lamar with Zay with likely,
- 7:39Speaker 3: But I like to talking about flipping the build. We'll
- 7:41Speaker 3: get to that later. We talk about how to leverage
- 7:43Speaker 3: the common build. But that's a spot where it's like,
- 7:45Speaker 3: you know, even with JJ McCarthy, who you mentioned, he
- 7:47Speaker 3: doesn't have to raw points outscore Lamar. It's a slate
- 7:50Speaker 3: where we're a little bit starved for value at some stuff,
- 7:53Speaker 3: or we're forcing I'm seeing people forcing the sort of
- 7:56Speaker 3: mid range wide receivers outside of Zay. There is some
- 7:58Speaker 3: other options there that I think would be a little
- 8:00Speaker 3: bit more fragile, where like you said, he could just
- 8:02Speaker 3: get there on six for one thirty or something like
- 8:05Speaker 3: that and it still counts. But the other thing that's
- 8:07Speaker 3: interesting too, and it's all slate dynamics, is think back
- 8:09Speaker 3: to the week of Rashie Rice at fifty six hundred.
- 8:12Speaker 3: He was three hundred bucks less. He was super chalk
- 8:14Speaker 3: for a reason. He actually did get two touchdowns. He
- 8:17Speaker 3: was still not on winners. He was on some of
- 8:19Speaker 3: the stuff in the smaller field stuff, but overall still
- 8:21Speaker 3: wasn't required because it was thirty points scores out there.
- 8:24Speaker 3: And maybe that's a thought for this slate as well.
- 8:26Speaker 3: But it's not like we see, or at least I don't.
- 8:28Speaker 3: I'm a huge Ravens. I'm c z getting to like
- 8:30Speaker 3: eight k anytime soon. Versus Rice, you were like, well,
- 8:33Speaker 3: he's gonna be seventy five hundred plus next week probably
- 8:36Speaker 3: if it has a good game this week. At fifty
- 8:38Speaker 3: six hundred and he did and then we saw that,
- 8:40Speaker 3: So there.
- 8:41Speaker 2: Is some dynamics to that.
- 8:42Speaker 3: The one thing you mentioned there too that I think
- 8:44Speaker 3: stands true just going to it here looking at it quarterback,
- 8:47Speaker 3: you've got sort of the ranges, right, You've got the Lamar,
- 8:50Speaker 3: Josh Allen, maybe even lump Drake Allen in there where
- 8:54Speaker 3: people are sorry Drake May Josh Allen, sim you know,
- 8:58Speaker 3: in there. But then after that it's kind of cheaper guys, right,
- 9:01Speaker 3: Like you're seeing what you said maybe, And it's not
- 9:02Speaker 3: like they have huge ownership because it's so.
- 9:04Speaker 2: Spread out five to seven percenters.
- 9:06Speaker 3: Whether people are choosing Darnald or they're choosing mac Jones,
- 9:10Speaker 3: they're looking at JJ McCarthy, Mariota, whatever it might be,
- 9:13Speaker 3: across different sites. Is there anything else at quarterback that
- 9:16Speaker 3: that makes you think could change as we get to
- 9:19Speaker 3: the single entry stuff and diving into what the build
- 9:21Speaker 3: looks like.
- 9:22Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually do think I have a different read
- 9:24Speaker 4: on quarterback ownership this week than most of the industry. Obviously,
- 9:29Speaker 4: like Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson are projecting as popular
- 9:32Speaker 4: around the industry, and it's not that I think that
- 9:33Speaker 4: they won't be. I just think the typical build is
- 9:36Speaker 4: not going to be one of those two. The typical
- 9:38Speaker 4: build is going to be paying down at quarterback. So McCarthy,
- 9:42Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett, Jackson, Dart mac Jones. I think that's kind
- 9:47Speaker 4: of the foundation that people are gonna like a little
- 9:49Speaker 4: bit more just because it gives you that easier access
- 9:53Speaker 4: to McCaffrey, Smith and Jagbo Right, Like Smith and jag
- 9:56Speaker 4: Buffet's perfectly as a bringback to Jacoby Brissett. That's one factor.
- 10:01Speaker 4: Like I think I'm probably the highest in the industry
- 10:03Speaker 4: on Brissett's ownership, and that's one of the main reasons why.
- 10:05Speaker 4: It's because there's a very clear and obvious way to
- 10:08Speaker 4: use one of the studs that everyone wants to use
- 10:10Speaker 4: within that stack, that game stack. So I think people
- 10:14Speaker 4: are going to do that a little bit more often because,
- 10:16Speaker 4: as you said, we're a little bit starve for value,
- 10:18Speaker 4: and so how do people get value that they actually
- 10:21Speaker 4: feel a little bit good about. They turn to the
- 10:23Speaker 4: stack for it. They feel like, Okay, if none of
- 10:26Speaker 4: the value that I use is going to be good,
- 10:27Speaker 4: I can at least correlate the value that I use,
- 10:30Speaker 4: which is smart. I certainly don't think it's wrong to
- 10:32Speaker 4: build this way, but I do think it's going to
- 10:34Speaker 4: be a little bit more popular. At least the structure
- 10:36Speaker 4: is going to be more popular than what people think.
- 10:38Speaker 4: The good news is, whether we like Brissette, Jackson, Dart
- 10:45Speaker 4: or any of these other like really cheap guys, there
- 10:47Speaker 4: isn't anyone who's going to be twenty percent or twenty
- 10:50Speaker 4: five percent or at least I don't think there's going
- 10:52Speaker 4: to be. So we can kind of pick our favorites
- 10:54Speaker 4: among this group as long as there's some way that
- 10:56Speaker 4: we have some real conviction about.
- 10:58Speaker 3: Yeah, and we talk about you know the name of
- 10:59Speaker 3: the show leverage Lane, and we talk about leverage levels.
- 11:02Speaker 3: We always talked about this. I love that, you know,
- 11:04Speaker 3: we think so much alike on stuff. And that's why
- 11:05Speaker 3: it's great because you said which is smart, and I say, like,
- 11:08Speaker 3: I get it, and I think people get it like
- 11:10Speaker 3: that is how you get there. Because then to my
- 11:12Speaker 3: boy needs his points as it's a comfortable built, people say, well,
- 11:15Speaker 3: at least if it lines up with the stack, I'm
- 11:17Speaker 3: on the right path, because that's if the value hits
- 11:20Speaker 3: the cheaper value that I'm on.
- 11:21Speaker 2: Well, it seems risky.
- 11:22Speaker 3: At least it's attached and correlated and associated to a
- 11:25Speaker 3: stack that's gonna give me multiple extra points and correlation
- 11:28Speaker 3: that builds up the overall score. But I think the
- 11:31Speaker 3: level to it is that you're Brisset, I don't know,
- 11:35Speaker 3: Brisset Wilson McBride stack to get JSN in Yes it
- 11:40Speaker 3: makes sense, Yes it feels good, Yes it is smart.
- 11:42Speaker 3: To your point, it still at least makes some sense
- 11:44Speaker 3: because Wilson, while he's a punt and a risk, it
- 11:46Speaker 3: gets you McBride who's popular for good reason, and JSN
- 11:49Speaker 3: who's popular for good reason. It makes your value work.
- 11:52Speaker 3: But just remember if that's the most common version of
- 11:55Speaker 3: that where people are landing, there is levels to the
- 11:58Speaker 3: stacks of like what's the ability within that price of
- 12:02Speaker 3: a stack to go and get Mac Jones, Kendrick Bourne
- 12:06Speaker 3: and George Kittle and maybe still land on CMC like
- 12:09Speaker 3: you know what I mean? Like where oh, and people
- 12:11Speaker 3: see it. And that's where I think, Alex, when people
- 12:13Speaker 3: watch Takedown Breakdown on Mondays where we review all this stuff,
- 12:16Speaker 3: Nate's is on there with me, You're on this with
- 12:18Speaker 3: me when we review that stuff people, I was like, how.
- 12:20Speaker 2: Did I not land on that build. It was so easy.
- 12:23Speaker 3: But what was in there, what's in their head is
- 12:24Speaker 3: actually it makes the same amount of sense as everything
- 12:28Speaker 3: else I was considering. In our previous example of the
- 12:30Speaker 3: Brissett one, it's the same thought process. You just didn't
- 12:33Speaker 3: go down that path as your lane. So that's the difference, right,
- 12:36Speaker 3: And we've seen it work a ton of different weeks.
- 12:38Speaker 3: Geno Smith the week with Meyers, Tucker and Bowers. Even
- 12:42Speaker 3: though Meyer and Bowers that week didn't come through Jacoby
- 12:45Speaker 3: Meers and Bowers didn't come through. It was Trey Tucker
- 12:48Speaker 3: putting up forty four.
- 12:49Speaker 2: The lane still worked.
- 12:50Speaker 3: Of the thought process of all my other stuff is
- 12:53Speaker 3: great and lines up if I just hit this. You
- 12:56Speaker 3: can think beyond the Brisset one, not saying don't go
- 12:58Speaker 3: that road, just saying when you see it. If you're
- 13:00Speaker 3: seeing that be more popular, so are others. You can
- 13:03Speaker 3: find the what makes sense stack in a bunch of
- 13:06Speaker 3: different stacks on this slate, and that's what's gonna be
- 13:08Speaker 3: the case of what can get there? Do you have
- 13:10Speaker 3: anything else to add when it comes to that? If not,
- 13:12Speaker 3: we could talk a little bit more about these running backs,
- 13:14Speaker 3: because I think that's where it gets interesting this week.
- 13:16Speaker 4: Yeah, when don't we have the James Cook devon eh
- 13:19Speaker 4: Chan discussion, because if you look around the industry, you're
- 13:23Speaker 4: going to see a lot of a Chan projected like
- 13:25Speaker 4: twenty five thirty percent and James Cook around ten to fifteen.
- 13:29Speaker 4: And I just don't see that. I actually have Cook,
- 13:34Speaker 4: where I think is still conservatively projected at eighteen point
- 13:37Speaker 4: one percent in single entries, and eight Chan at seventeen
- 13:39Speaker 4: point nine percent, So as close as it could possibly be,
- 13:43Speaker 4: I am projecting Cook to flip eight Chan, and I
- 13:46Speaker 4: it would not surprise me at all if the if
- 13:50Speaker 4: you know, we get to kick off on Sunday, you
- 13:51Speaker 4: open the DraftKings app, you're scrolling through ownerships and Cook
- 13:54Speaker 4: is at twenty five percent, a Chan is at fifteen percent.
- 13:57Speaker 4: Wouldn't supress me at all. I don't underst stand the
- 14:00Speaker 4: love for one thing, Like I haven't talked to anyone
- 14:02Speaker 4: who's enthusiastic about playing a Chan in this matchup. Yes
- 14:06Speaker 4: he projects well, but it's one of those things where
- 14:11Speaker 4: like I almost feel like projections are it can be
- 14:15Speaker 4: like too mathematical. We talked last week about how you
- 14:19Speaker 4: know Manungai against the Bengals defense. He was projected like
- 14:24Speaker 4: seventeen and a half. That was an aggressive one. But
- 14:25Speaker 4: if you compared his typical production or the typical production
- 14:28Speaker 4: of what we would expect in that role, and then
- 14:30Speaker 4: talked about how much better running back's done against Cincinnati,
- 14:33Speaker 4: averaging like ten more fantasy points per game, it's like
- 14:36Speaker 4: the expectation is in seventeen and a half, it's twenty four,
- 14:39Speaker 4: twenty five and a half. He got that without a touchdown.
- 14:42Speaker 4: So this is one of those I think with a
- 14:44Speaker 4: Chan where it's like the opposite. Any mathematical projection model
- 14:48Speaker 4: fairly is going to put him twenty twenty one, twenty
- 14:51Speaker 4: two draftings points something like that because of how much
- 14:54Speaker 4: he offers in the passing game as well. But I
- 14:56Speaker 4: just don't see how he gets too far beyond that.
- 14:59Speaker 4: Where I really questioned the ceiling for a Chan this
- 15:02Speaker 4: week in this matchup, and there is a path to
- 15:04Speaker 4: him really kind of underwhelming because this Buffalo defense, Number one,
- 15:08Speaker 4: they match up really really well with Miami, especially with
- 15:11Speaker 4: no Tyreek kill, Like teams just want to play too
- 15:13Speaker 4: high against them. Buffalo already plays a lot of too
- 15:17Speaker 4: high and they play it really well they haven't been
- 15:19Speaker 4: great against the run, but because of that, because of
- 15:22Speaker 4: the way that they defend the pass, they can actually
- 15:24Speaker 4: commit more resources to the run in this matchup. And again,
- 15:28Speaker 4: a chan doesn't project well because of what he can
- 15:30Speaker 4: do in the running game, he projects well because of
- 15:32Speaker 4: what he does in the passing game. So I just
- 15:34Speaker 4: think this is a bad spot. Buffalo also does a
- 15:36Speaker 4: really good job of controlling how much the opponent actually
- 15:40Speaker 4: has the ball. Teams don't run a lot of plays
- 15:42Speaker 4: against them. Miami runs very few plays to begin with.
- 15:46Speaker 4: I think this game is a hole, is going to
- 15:47Speaker 4: be a low play volume type game, and I think
- 15:50Speaker 4: Miami's going to get the wrong side of that anyway.
- 15:53Speaker 4: To me, this is James Cooker No One from this game,
- 15:56Speaker 4: and I feel very strongly about that.
- 15:59Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm actually not so I agree fully. This is
- 16:01Speaker 3: what we talk about pre shows, so and now that
- 16:02Speaker 3: we went there, I mean a couple other factors. Again,
- 16:04Speaker 3: my guy Naed's coming in with the good ones. If
- 16:06Speaker 3: you can't get to Alan, like you said, people are
- 16:08Speaker 3: more comfortable with the cheaper quarterbacks because that's where you
- 16:11Speaker 3: can find value. This week, the value that we just
- 16:13Speaker 3: talked about that leaks out from that into the stack
- 16:15Speaker 3: where it's like, oh now I love my lineup. As
- 16:17Speaker 3: long as this stack does anything again smart, like you said,
- 16:19Speaker 3: don't disagree, but that's part of the thought process.
- 16:22Speaker 2: Then it's the huge team total. Then it's still the
- 16:25Speaker 2: good matchup on paper.
- 16:26Speaker 3: The sites that are showing sort of O line, D
- 16:28Speaker 3: line or DV like, all that stuff is going to
- 16:29Speaker 3: reflect the Bill's side. Interestingly enough, the projection, I don't
- 16:33Speaker 3: know what you have for player point projection, but we
- 16:35Speaker 3: actually have a slightly higher projection, a bigger he can
- 16:39Speaker 3: get a bigger ceiling, I think out of HM because
- 16:41Speaker 3: if he catches a bunch more passes and whatnot and
- 16:43Speaker 3: missing since Tyreek Hill and all that, the timing that's
- 16:45Speaker 3: gone by, I think it's possible. But I think from
- 16:48Speaker 3: a projection point, it still shows James Cook. So that's
- 16:50Speaker 3: still going to go into the optimizers. So I've heard
- 16:53Speaker 3: more people. I've heard more people talk about James Cook
- 16:55Speaker 3: and Dulcic secondary stack. Then I've heard people talk about
- 16:58Speaker 3: a Chan single by himself. So I will say this,
- 17:03Speaker 3: it could be James Cook or nothing, but I think
- 17:06Speaker 3: for me, I'm still gonna be stacking some Josh Allen,
- 17:09Speaker 3: and I also think say, if I was going a
- 17:10Speaker 3: secondary stack, well.
- 17:11Speaker 2: It doesn't it's all baked in like we talk about.
- 17:13Speaker 3: I actually don't mind going to something like a Chan
- 17:16Speaker 3: and King Kid and it's still it's just the a Chan.
- 17:18Speaker 3: If the ownership does actually flip like we think it could,
- 17:21Speaker 3: it's more that the ownership I think comes back some
- 17:24Speaker 3: on both to your point on the numbers you have,
- 17:27Speaker 3: and then if it does come back some and then
- 17:28Speaker 3: one pops up, we actually think it's James Cook that
- 17:31Speaker 3: does that in your tournament. So I think especially in
- 17:33Speaker 3: like single entry, people want to get a piece of
- 17:36Speaker 3: the thirty point bills. That's just where they go. I'd
- 17:39Speaker 3: be fine with King Kid as well. At forty three hundred.
- 17:41Speaker 3: He's just sitting there in the middle of a bunch
- 17:44Speaker 3: of other stuff and you don't have to go a
- 17:46Speaker 3: Chan in that. I just want to bring it up
- 17:47Speaker 3: that I think that's an interesting spot to go as well.
- 17:50Speaker 2: Let's see for me here.
- 17:52Speaker 4: I think the last thing I'll say on this is like,
- 17:54Speaker 4: this is just a spot where I think people get
- 17:57Speaker 4: really confident in the ownership projection that they're looking at.
- 18:00Speaker 4: And this is one where I think we should give
- 18:03Speaker 4: the industry credit for how sharp we are as an industry,
- 18:07Speaker 4: and that a lot of people are gonna look at
- 18:09Speaker 4: that ownership projection for James Cook and say it's hard
- 18:12Speaker 4: to stack this game. I don't like who I'm pairing
- 18:15Speaker 4: Josh Allen with, I don't like the opposite side, but
- 18:17Speaker 4: they are implied for over thirty points, so someone's going
- 18:19Speaker 4: to score. It just makes too much sense to go
- 18:22Speaker 4: to James Cook. It's a smart play. It would be
- 18:25Speaker 4: one of the sharpest plays on the entire slate if
- 18:29Speaker 4: his ownership projection around the industry was correct. So because
- 18:32Speaker 4: of that, I'm just saying I think he's going to
- 18:34Speaker 4: be another five to ten percent kind of minimum. He
- 18:36Speaker 4: might end up being, you know, twenty five to thirty percent.
- 18:39Speaker 4: Like I really wouldn't be shocked if we saw that
- 18:41Speaker 4: kind of steme from him. So my point is basically,
- 18:43Speaker 4: just if you do want to play James Cook, because
- 18:45Speaker 4: I still think he's the smartest way to play anyone
- 18:48Speaker 4: from this game, if you do want to play him,
- 18:50Speaker 4: you just need to understand you're probably playing into more
- 18:52Speaker 4: ownership than what you're seeing around the industry.
- 18:55Speaker 3: Yeah, and I will say this too, because somebody just
- 18:56Speaker 3: I think with Sean who brought it up, said Judkins's
- 19:00Speaker 3: interesting pivot from Jockey rego. We could stay here because
- 19:02Speaker 3: we're still in segment one, just going through some of
- 19:04Speaker 3: the positional stuff. As we move around, I think we're
- 19:07Speaker 3: seeing what do you have on Judkins right now?
- 19:09Speaker 2: I'm curious.
- 19:10Speaker 3: I'll start there, Actually, what do you have on him
- 19:11Speaker 3: right now?
- 19:12Speaker 4: I've got sixteen percent. I think that's probably a little
- 19:15Speaker 4: bit above industry. Also another guy that I want to
- 19:18Speaker 4: be surprised if aam's up to twenty five percent. Because
- 19:20Speaker 4: the matchup with the Jets is obviously good to begin with,
- 19:22Speaker 4: and now no Sauce Gardner, no Quinn Williams, they're probably
- 19:25Speaker 4: going to be even worse defensively than they've been, which
- 19:28Speaker 4: is hard to imagine. But like the matchup with Miami,
- 19:32Speaker 4: like we know, Judkins, like doubtll is going to be
- 19:35Speaker 4: a very game script, matchup dependent type fantasy producer, and
- 19:40Speaker 4: this definitely qualifies as one of the games where he's
- 19:43Speaker 4: most likely to be in a good game script and
- 19:46Speaker 4: most likely to actually be efficient even though they can't
- 19:49Speaker 4: pass the ball. So this is a very good spot
- 19:52Speaker 4: for Judkins, And again, it's the type of spot that
- 19:54Speaker 4: people are going to catch on to and say, hey,
- 19:56Speaker 4: wait a minute, this is actually one of the spots
- 19:58Speaker 4: where I can play this guy and he's fun to
- 20:00Speaker 4: So it wouldn't surprise me if he ends up to twenty
- 20:02Speaker 4: five to thirty percent. But I'm kind of conservatively leaving
- 20:04Speaker 4: him at sixteen for now.
- 20:06Speaker 3: And I think another thing to talk about here, So
- 20:07Speaker 3: I wanted to ask you that I think this he's
- 20:09Speaker 3: also going to get boosted by the Browns d whether
- 20:12Speaker 3: people like it or not, that's a correlation that people
- 20:14Speaker 3: love to go with. Obviously it can make some sense.
- 20:16Speaker 3: The chat's already talking about what about putting the panthers
- 20:18Speaker 3: with Dowdell? What about putting the bills with James Cook?
- 20:21Speaker 3: I mean, the bills with James Cook is a little
- 20:23Speaker 3: bit more expensive than the Dabtle costs because you're going
- 20:25Speaker 3: up eleven or twelve hundred dollars and then a little
- 20:27Speaker 3: bit on the defense too, So of course that's going
- 20:30Speaker 3: to be a little bit lower home. But at least
- 20:31Speaker 3: to Alex's point, that could could make some more sense.
- 20:34Speaker 3: If it's not a chan, it's not you know, to
- 20:36Speaker 3: a start throwing interceptions things like that. That could be where
- 20:39Speaker 3: James Cook finds his way and you'll just have to
- 20:41Speaker 3: find that little bit of extra money. I think the
- 20:43Speaker 3: Browns d is definitely pushing up Judkins even further people
- 20:46Speaker 3: already looking for a bit of a pivot. That doesn't
- 20:48Speaker 3: mean that Dowdell doesn't become the highest owned still, which
- 20:52Speaker 3: we think he will. It just means it'll be held
- 20:54Speaker 3: in check at forty ish as opposed to getting even
- 20:56Speaker 3: crazier and out of control like something else. So I
- 20:58Speaker 3: think that's important to think about. And also real quick, Tamba.
- 21:02Speaker 4: But before you move on, I think this is a
- 21:04Speaker 4: phenomenal point that you're making about the brown See and
- 21:07Speaker 4: how it affects Judkins. I already have the Browns way
- 21:09Speaker 4: above industry. I'm at sixteen percent on them, So I
- 21:12Speaker 4: think like immediately when we get off this, I'm going
- 21:15Speaker 4: and bumping the Judkins ownership at least at twenty percent,
- 21:18Speaker 4: because this is how we should be thinking through ownership, right.
- 21:21Speaker 4: It's it's not how is everyone evaluating this play individually?
- 21:25Speaker 4: It's how does this play get affected by everything else
- 21:29Speaker 4: that people are seeing and wanting to do? And like
- 21:32Speaker 4: you I am envisioning a lot of Cleveland defensive Steam
- 21:35Speaker 4: because they're just aren't very many good options that are
- 21:38Speaker 4: under three thousand dollars that you project pretty well around
- 21:41Speaker 4: the industry. And now you have that perfect you know,
- 21:44Speaker 4: traditional correlation pair that you can use them with Judkins.
- 21:48Speaker 4: I think it's it's just a great example of number one,
- 21:51Speaker 4: how we want to kind of kind of show people
- 21:54Speaker 4: how to think through ownership and how ownership might move.
- 21:56Speaker 4: But then it's also just a really good point and
- 21:59Speaker 4: to say that, you know what, I do need to
- 22:01Speaker 4: bump that Judgekins ownership projection. I think twenty is probably
- 22:04Speaker 4: a floor for him.
- 22:05Speaker 3: Yeah, this is the prep work that's important because this
- 22:07Speaker 3: is what it makes you actually be ready to go
- 22:10Speaker 3: for certain situational stuff when you're thinking. I'll give another
- 22:12Speaker 3: I love just riffing back and forth on this stuff.
- 22:14Speaker 3: It's great because it's you know, kind of I think
- 22:15Speaker 3: it really helps people. But this is a prime example
- 22:17Speaker 3: where sometimes this is the case and sometimes it's something else.
- 22:20Speaker 3: And I'll give two of them. One is if you
- 22:22Speaker 3: go to the spot of like the Carolina one with Dowdell.
- 22:26Speaker 3: That's another thing like I don't think you're getting sneaky
- 22:29Speaker 3: with the Carolina Panthers D. I think they'll end up
- 22:31Speaker 3: becoming one of the most popular sheep defenses because it's
- 22:33Speaker 3: backwards correlated. If Dawdlell's going to get that much ownership,
- 22:36Speaker 3: people start thinking I can put this in to.
- 22:39Speaker 2: Help it get different.
- 22:39Speaker 3: They don't move from Daddle, They try and go to
- 22:41Speaker 3: a different way with it. Dowdell stays whatever, and then
- 22:44Speaker 3: the defense comes along with it. It's the inverse of
- 22:46Speaker 3: the one we just talked about with the Browns d
- 22:48Speaker 3: picking up steam and that. But it doesn't always get
- 22:50Speaker 3: thought about this way where you go to the Cook
- 22:53Speaker 3: one because everyone doesn't necessarily currently think. We literally are
- 22:56Speaker 3: probably the first people to bring that up. I haven't
- 22:58Speaker 3: heard anyone mention it yet, but you and I both
- 22:59Speaker 3: thought where James Cook is going to be more owned
- 23:02Speaker 3: than a chan. You already have a situation where not
- 23:05Speaker 3: everyone is there yet. It's a bubble thing. So then
- 23:07Speaker 3: the bills d is not there yet because of that,
- 23:10Speaker 3: and if people catch on too late to that and
- 23:12Speaker 3: that becomes a great option, that would be your leverage
- 23:15Speaker 3: to the tournament in a good way already.
- 23:17Speaker 2: If that holds.
- 23:18Speaker 3: True, now just noting that the secondary piece and this
- 23:21Speaker 3: can be some of the stuff a wide receiver, because
- 23:22Speaker 3: I want to talk quickly about like Pooka and a
- 23:25Speaker 3: Monra and Jefferson and some of these guys.
- 23:27Speaker 2: But a favorite of yours.
- 23:29Speaker 3: I mean, he probably still is, but week one was
- 23:31Speaker 3: not too good to you, Nico Collins. The jags D
- 23:35Speaker 3: is super popular right now at the cheaper price one
- 23:38Speaker 3: of twenty six hundred. But you don't see anything on
- 23:41Speaker 3: anything that can hurt it or leverage and people to
- 23:43Speaker 3: all I am I gonna put with Travis etn Junior.
- 23:45Speaker 3: Probably not, that might not be the way. You don't
- 23:47Speaker 3: have to apply the Judkins theory to this. But what
- 23:50Speaker 3: would be the way to leverage it is a guy
- 23:52Speaker 3: at sixty seven hundred dollars in Nico Collins. I know
- 23:55Speaker 3: it's Davis Mills coming in, but still sixty seven hundred
- 23:58Speaker 3: bucks for Nico Collins at like read a five percent
- 24:00Speaker 3: ownership maybe and that would just again anyone who it's
- 24:03Speaker 3: not about it would necessarily hurt the Jags D.
- 24:05Speaker 2: They both could get there.
- 24:07Speaker 3: It's most people building lineups with the jags D already
- 24:11Speaker 3: won't have Collins. And then you factor, all the other
- 24:13Speaker 3: factors of the slate and the position the stacks and
- 24:15Speaker 3: all of that. So do you have any thoughts on
- 24:17Speaker 3: any other ways along those lines, because I think that
- 24:20Speaker 3: leads us into some wide receiver talk with Nico Collins
- 24:22Speaker 3: as well. But I just think that's something interesting that
- 24:24Speaker 3: stands out to me from the previous conversation we just
- 24:26Speaker 3: had a running back.
- 24:27Speaker 4: Well, I think there are two things I want to
- 24:30Speaker 4: kind of mention here. The first is about this thought
- 24:32Speaker 4: of doubto and the Carolina defense. I do think it's
- 24:36Speaker 4: true that the Carolina defense will stay I don't know,
- 24:39Speaker 4: five seven, eight percent something like that, But think about
- 24:42Speaker 4: the ownership within doubtle lineups. Who's actually using that Carolina defense.
- 24:46Speaker 4: Who's paying thirty five hundred dollars for the Carolina defense.
- 24:48Speaker 4: It's primarily the people who have Doubtle and think that they're,
- 24:51Speaker 4: you know, getting this great correlation there. I don't think
- 24:54Speaker 4: it's that correlated. But more importantly, I think in doubtle lineups,
- 24:58Speaker 4: the Carolina defense might be fifteen percent owned instead of
- 25:00Speaker 4: six percent, So you should think about that aspect of it.
- 25:04Speaker 4: But then the second thing I want to say is like,
- 25:07Speaker 4: just generally speaking, this is where ownership matters the most.
- 25:11Speaker 4: Let's let's use this Cleveland pair again to kind of
- 25:15Speaker 4: really kind of envision this Judkins we think is going
- 25:18Speaker 4: to be let's say, twenty percent Cleveland fifteen percent. If
- 25:22Speaker 4: you think that you're playing that pair with Judkins at
- 25:25Speaker 4: thirteen percent and the Cleveland defense at seven percent, because
- 25:28Speaker 4: that's what you're seeing on a lot of different sites,
- 25:30Speaker 4: you're gonna feel really good about that. Ownership doesn't matter
- 25:34Speaker 4: a ton when you're looking at, you know, a random
- 25:36Speaker 4: wide receiver and it's, oh, is it going to be
- 25:38Speaker 4: eight percent or eleven percent? That doesn't really affect a
- 25:41Speaker 4: whole lot. Seven percent and thirteen percent for Judkins in
- 25:44Speaker 4: Cleveland verse twenty percent and fifteen percent. That's massive. That's
- 25:48Speaker 4: a huge difference. So when you're looking at these plays,
- 25:50Speaker 4: and particularly when you're looking at your contrarian plays, one
- 25:53Speaker 4: of the questions you want to ask is if I'm
- 25:55Speaker 4: wrong about the ownership, how wrong can I possibly be
- 25:57Speaker 4: about this guy? How protected is this guy from really
- 25:59Speaker 4: still or how protected is this combination from really steaming?
- 26:03Speaker 4: And you know, this Cleveland one is one of those
- 26:05Speaker 4: examples where you're not protected at all. It could get
- 26:08Speaker 4: really bad really quickly. And then you've got to ask yourself,
- 26:11Speaker 4: if I am accidentally playing these guys at twenty percent
- 26:13Speaker 4: and fifteen percent, am I gonna hate myself for that?
- 26:16Speaker 4: And I to me like that pairing, Yeah, that's one
- 26:18Speaker 4: that I would not want to be in on that
- 26:20Speaker 4: as Chuck, as much as I would be interested in it.
- 26:23Speaker 4: If it's, you know, a contrarian pairing and each of
- 26:27Speaker 4: the individual plays there a contrarian. So I think that's
- 26:29Speaker 4: just another like really good kind of broad picture kind
- 26:33Speaker 4: of thought.
- 26:34Speaker 3: Yeah, it's important to think of that. That's saying so
- 26:36Speaker 3: I love going through this stuff. I would not do
- 26:38Speaker 3: this personally. Just to note the reason. I mean, we've
- 26:40Speaker 3: focused on single entry and GPPs, but I mean you're
- 26:42Speaker 3: missing out on so much and if that's what costs you,
- 26:44Speaker 3: imagine you get everything else right, that's the point of
- 26:46Speaker 3: having fifty lineups thinking, So, I mean you're missing out
- 26:49Speaker 3: on Detroit, you're missing out on Seattle. These are high
- 26:52Speaker 3: leverage spots or good good cases like Seattle is one
- 26:54Speaker 3: hundred bucks more. Going up against Brissett and Trey McBride,
- 26:57Speaker 3: both are going to be very popular if you end
- 26:59Speaker 3: up beating having a good lineup that wasn't on the
- 27:02Speaker 3: Brissette stuff already. I mean, when you're on a different
- 27:04Speaker 3: stack and everything else that goes with it, you're kind
- 27:06Speaker 3: of saying whether you know it or like it or not,
- 27:08Speaker 3: you're saying, I'm not interested in them, because I'm interested in.
- 27:11Speaker 2: This beating that.
- 27:12Speaker 3: Well, what could also help beat that and double leverage
- 27:15Speaker 3: it would be to have something like the Seahawks defense.
- 27:17Speaker 3: I'm not advocating them specifically, as much as saying examples
- 27:20Speaker 3: to what you're mentioning.
- 27:21Speaker 2: Within your portfolio.
- 27:22Speaker 3: I would not be all in on a thirty five
- 27:24Speaker 3: hundred dollars Panthers just because you like the spot and
- 27:26Speaker 3: think it's the best one to teach your own. That's
- 27:28Speaker 3: your risk for reward, your money. But you're gonna be
- 27:31Speaker 3: really angry if you have, you know, thirty or twenty
- 27:33Speaker 3: of those builds that are in pretty good shape, but
- 27:35Speaker 3: they're all dead because the Carolina de didn't come through
- 27:37Speaker 3: for you and easily could have been other alternate options
- 27:40Speaker 3: on this slate. So your your call, but it's just
- 27:42Speaker 3: a my two cents on it. Lastly, real quick, Alex,
- 27:46Speaker 3: and then we'll get to the common build and putting
- 27:48Speaker 3: this all together of what we've seen so far, I
- 27:50Speaker 3: do want to spend a few moments on those wide
- 27:52Speaker 3: receivers because there is that's I think part of the
- 27:56Speaker 3: slate dynamics here right, is like you only have these
- 27:59Speaker 3: mid range as low as these mid range running backs
- 28:02Speaker 3: for most people, they're not seeing the option to go
- 28:04Speaker 3: to value.
- 28:05Speaker 2: You have the cheaper quarterbacks.
- 28:07Speaker 3: That I think you nailed earlier, people are definitely going
- 28:09Speaker 3: to more to NAT's point, to your point of how
- 28:12Speaker 3: comfortable it is, it makes sense, but remember a lot
- 28:14Speaker 3: of those lead not many of those.
- 28:16Speaker 2: Lead to expensive stacks.
- 28:17Speaker 3: Maybe you could say the McCarthy Jefferson Addison one gets
- 28:21Speaker 3: a bit up there, but that still fits the mid
- 28:23Speaker 3: range build of just a cheap tight end with the
- 28:25Speaker 3: mid range running backs and a cheap defense. So it's
- 28:28Speaker 3: still a very similar build type once you go down
- 28:30Speaker 3: that path. But I do think with Nico Collinson up
- 28:35Speaker 3: like when you go Nico Puoka, a Monro Saint Brown.
- 28:39Speaker 3: We talked about Jefferson already and maybe in those stacks, Well,
- 28:42Speaker 3: what's your thought on these expensive wide receivers on the slate,
- 28:45Speaker 3: because I think that's where people have to struggle to
- 28:47Speaker 3: get to.
- 28:47Speaker 2: If they're going high, they're going to CMC for example.
- 28:50Speaker 4: Yeah, So from an ownership perspective, I've got Puka twenty three,
- 28:56Speaker 4: Jay said at twenty five, I'm on Riot twenty, Jefferson
- 29:00Speaker 4: at ten, a book at fifteen. So I think it's
- 29:03Speaker 4: going to be pretty spread out. My preference is not
- 29:06Speaker 4: as spread out. I think Puka is in a tier
- 29:08Speaker 4: of his own here. I think number one, he's been
- 29:10Speaker 4: kind of in a tier of his own just throughout
- 29:12Speaker 4: the whole season, particularly in games that he's played the
- 29:14Speaker 4: whole game. But man, the matchup is so good in
- 29:18Speaker 4: the last two weeks. So no Fred Warner for San
- 29:20Speaker 4: Francisco posing quarterbacks or nineteen of twenty two for two
- 29:25Speaker 4: hundred yards and two touchdowns throwing over the middle of
- 29:28Speaker 4: the field. That's not an accident. That's what happens when
- 29:30Speaker 4: you lose a player like Fred Warner on a defense
- 29:32Speaker 4: that's already kind of hurting everywhere and isn't that good anyway,
- 29:36Speaker 4: And then you realize who were those quarterbacks?
- 29:39Speaker 2: It was c. J.
- 29:40Speaker 4: Stroud throwing to a team without Nico Collins and Jackson
- 29:43Speaker 4: Dark Stafford to Puka is going to tear them apart
- 29:47Speaker 4: this week. I think Puka has an absolutely massive ceiling.
- 29:50Speaker 4: I think Kirian Williams has a massive ceiling. This is
- 29:52Speaker 4: the game that Kyen had. I think it was like
- 29:54Speaker 4: seven receptions for sixty six yards and two receiving touchdowns.
- 29:57Speaker 4: They were using him over the middlefield a lot. That
- 29:59Speaker 4: was when Fred Warner was still playing, So that that
- 30:02Speaker 4: whole Rams offense, I think is in such a good
- 30:04Speaker 4: spot and it really puts Pooka ahead of everyone else
- 30:07Speaker 4: for me. I also think DeVante Adams, you know, he's
- 30:09Speaker 4: He's produced over the middle quite a bit as well,
- 30:12Speaker 4: so I wouldn't count him out. And I think you
- 30:14Speaker 4: could play both of them together with Stafford. I wouldn't
- 30:17Speaker 4: play them together without Stafford, but I think you could
- 30:20Speaker 4: play Adams instead of Pooka and feel pretty good about that.
- 30:23Speaker 4: So I really like Pooka, I really like Adams, and
- 30:25Speaker 4: I think they're kind of in a tier they're own
- 30:27Speaker 4: for me up top. I don't think that Jasn is
- 30:32Speaker 4: a bad play. I don't think aman Ran is a
- 30:34Speaker 4: bad play. I just think Pooka is a better play
- 30:37Speaker 4: than these guys.
- 30:38Speaker 3: Yeah, the tricky here is, you know, and Nads says
- 30:41Speaker 3: it here that no one wants Stafford at that price point.
- 30:44Speaker 3: I don't think it's nobody wants it. I think I
- 30:46Speaker 3: mean ownership explains that, yes, And I agree with you there,
- 30:49Speaker 3: But I'm saying that it's a product of the slate
- 30:51Speaker 3: because if you go even like, what what are you
- 30:53Speaker 3: gonna do? If you go Stafford and Puka, do you
- 30:56Speaker 3: really want to just put Juwan Jennings in there and
- 30:58Speaker 3: be like, well that's my stack. You're leaving out Adams,
- 31:00Speaker 3: You're leaving out Christian McCaffrey, like, you're really not on
- 31:03Speaker 3: the best pieces. And it's super expensive to go Stafford, Puoka,
- 31:07Speaker 3: CMC and people just cannot find the value right. They
- 31:11Speaker 3: can't find it. So while it does slice into them,
- 31:13Speaker 3: and you know, I love a good slice and dice,
- 31:14Speaker 3: it's very tricky for people to find that this week
- 31:18Speaker 3: unless more value opens up. Because go build a lineup
- 31:20Speaker 3: right now and you put Pookah, you put Stafford, you
- 31:23Speaker 3: put CMC, and then even just do that and build
- 31:25Speaker 3: it out, you're not gonna like the rest of your build.
- 31:28Speaker 3: It's not gonna really play out too well. When you're
- 31:30Speaker 3: looking at sims and things like that, you're gonna have
- 31:32Speaker 3: to do more. So I think that's part of the
- 31:35Speaker 3: process there that people don't fully always follow or see
- 31:38Speaker 3: it that way.
- 31:39Speaker 2: That's what we try and explain both ways on the show.
- 31:41Speaker 3: Of like that makes perfect sense and looks good, it
- 31:44Speaker 3: would be awesome if we could get to it, But
- 31:46Speaker 3: when it screws up the rest of the bill, that's
- 31:48Speaker 3: where people come back and say, what did I do wrong? Well,
- 31:49Speaker 3: you jammed like four punt plays just to make those
- 31:52Speaker 3: three guys work.
- 31:53Speaker 2: I get it.
- 31:53Speaker 3: We like those three guys, but we play a nine
- 31:56Speaker 3: roster position game, including defense, so it's like you have
- 31:59Speaker 3: to be able to fill out the rest of the
- 32:01Speaker 3: lineup and not have yourself give up too much or
- 32:04Speaker 3: need too many diamonds in the raw for sacrifices to
- 32:06Speaker 3: get there. And then on the flip side of it,
- 32:08Speaker 3: it's the it's the opposite. People go way too safe,
- 32:11Speaker 3: right and they just get all the best plays, but
- 32:12Speaker 3: they're all the chalk plays together and it's like they're
- 32:14Speaker 3: not really going off the boards. So I don't know
- 32:16Speaker 3: if you have anything else you want to add on that,
- 32:18Speaker 3: but if not, that's probably a good segue after you're
- 32:20Speaker 3: done to bring us to the how to leverage the
- 32:22Speaker 3: common build this week and what we're seeing that look like.
- 32:25Speaker 2: I think we talked through a bunch of it already.
- 32:27Speaker 4: I think the one thing I'll add to that thought
- 32:29Speaker 4: is if I was going to do the Stafford double sack,
- 32:32Speaker 4: or if I was gonna use Stafford at all, it
- 32:34Speaker 4: would be a double sack with Pooka and Adams and
- 32:36Speaker 4: then the bring back to save money instead of trying
- 32:38Speaker 4: to force McCaffrey. I don't even think you could possibly
- 32:40Speaker 4: do that. I'd go Kiddle. And it gets to just
- 32:44Speaker 4: this idea of like we want to think about how
- 32:46Speaker 4: the game could go if if Stafford and Puka and
- 32:49Speaker 4: Adams are are connecting their their you know, going for
- 32:53Speaker 4: a touchdown drive every single time they touch the ball,
- 32:55Speaker 4: and Stafford's throwing all these touchdowns, it's putting San Francisco
- 32:58Speaker 4: in a games shoot and they actually have to just
- 33:00Speaker 4: traditionally drop back through regular passes, get away from the
- 33:03Speaker 4: run game, get away from the play action game. And
- 33:05Speaker 4: now you're actually getting Kittle running routes every play instead
- 33:08Speaker 4: of big use as a blocker, this and that, and
- 33:12Speaker 4: and that's when Kittle all of a sudden has you
- 33:14Speaker 4: know the path to any reception game, and so I
- 33:18Speaker 4: think that's another thing I think Govin just like again,
- 33:21Speaker 4: just this idea of when you're stacking, when you're building
- 33:25Speaker 4: any lineup, you want to think how does this affect
- 33:27Speaker 4: each individual play. That's a kind of game script where
- 33:29Speaker 4: Kittle would really have that massive ceiling. So I like
- 33:32Speaker 4: that thought. But yeah, let's let's move on to to
- 33:35Speaker 4: kind of leveraging the common build and what the common
- 33:37Speaker 4: build actually is.
- 33:38Speaker 3: No spoilers, let's move on. For sure, we'll keep it wrong.
- 33:41Speaker 3: We got our leverage lane at the end, but we'll
- 33:43Speaker 3: talk through that. I think this is definitely an interesting spot.
- 33:45Speaker 3: I'll say that much. Let's go to the second part. Well,
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- 34:22Speaker 3: second segment there, Alex, how to leverage the common build
- 34:26Speaker 3: really just looking at sort of now that we've seen
- 34:28Speaker 3: everything we've seen, we want to put it all together.
- 34:30Speaker 3: See what some of these combinations are you talk we talk,
- 34:32Speaker 3: I mean the Judkins Browns one was a prime example,
- 34:35Speaker 3: like that's certainly going to be a popular one that
- 34:37Speaker 3: you see pair it up. We talked about a few
- 34:38Speaker 3: different ones already. But then we can talk about some
- 34:41Speaker 3: of these game stacks as well. So let's talk about
- 34:43Speaker 3: the common build first, what you're seeing the round segment one,
- 34:46Speaker 3: and then we'll talk about how we can leverage that.
- 34:49Speaker 4: So, yeah, I think the first thing that I'm seeing
- 34:51Speaker 4: in terms of the common build is is not the
- 34:53Speaker 4: expensive quarterback. It's the cheap quarterback trying to save some
- 34:56Speaker 4: money in the stack so that you can get at
- 34:58Speaker 4: least two of studs. And when I say studs, I
- 35:02Speaker 4: don't necessarily mean McCaffrey Pooka. I'm also including Cook Gibbs,
- 35:08Speaker 4: maybe even like a Derrick Henry type guy, or Justin Jefferson,
- 35:12Speaker 4: Dvante Adams, emanuel A Mecca, a Buka. I think all
- 35:15Speaker 4: these guys kind of qualify here because it's just as
- 35:20Speaker 4: you know someone commented earlier, it's a more comfortable build
- 35:23Speaker 4: this way. If you save money through the stack, Now
- 35:26Speaker 4: you're getting access to these guys that you view as
- 35:29Speaker 4: some really high upside great plays. You're doing it without
- 35:32Speaker 4: having to punt anywhere in a way that feels like, oh,
- 35:35Speaker 4: this is a really ugly play, but at least I
- 35:37Speaker 4: get access to this guy if you do that through
- 35:39Speaker 4: the stack instead, if you save your money through the stack,
- 35:42Speaker 4: whether it's Burssett, McBride, Michael Wilson, as you said, whether
- 35:45Speaker 4: it's Brissett, Marvin Harrison and Michael Wilson or Marvin Harrison
- 35:49Speaker 4: and Trey McBride, I think it's going to be just
- 35:52Speaker 4: a much more comfortable way for people to build. And
- 35:54Speaker 4: that means if we want to leverage these builds, what
- 35:57Speaker 4: do we have to do well, We either have to
- 36:00Speaker 4: find a better way to play the studs. So you know,
- 36:03Speaker 4: I like to me, I think the best answer is
- 36:08Speaker 4: find the cheap stack that you think is just a
- 36:12Speaker 4: better cheap stack than what people are using. Because if
- 36:14Speaker 4: you're going the route instead of I'm going to use
- 36:16Speaker 4: these studs and I'm going to now instead of you know,
- 36:21Speaker 4: saving money through my stack, I'm going to save money
- 36:23Speaker 4: with a bunch of really cheap one offs, that's a
- 36:26Speaker 4: like decidedly worse pap than the cheap well correlated stack.
- 36:31Speaker 4: So instead, I want to find the contrarian well correlated
- 36:36Speaker 4: cheap stack that I think is just better than where
- 36:39Speaker 4: most people are going. Or I want to just build
- 36:41Speaker 4: a very balanced line up. But instead of getting to
- 36:44Speaker 4: CMC and JSN, I say, okay, one of the most
- 36:47Speaker 4: expensive guy in my lineup is DeVante Adams or Derrick
- 36:51Speaker 4: Henry something like that. And now I'm getting a bunch
- 36:54Speaker 4: of guys who I like, a bunch of guys who
- 36:56Speaker 4: I think have a great ceiling. Rico Dwell would fit
- 36:58Speaker 4: that mold. But you don't have to punt anywhere. I
- 37:01Speaker 4: don't have to save money anywhere. My stack is probably
- 37:04Speaker 4: going to be a mid tier stack as well. So
- 37:05Speaker 4: those are the two routes for me, very balanced build
- 37:08Speaker 4: or a contrarian cheap stack.
- 37:11Speaker 2: Yeah, and we'll look at some of those. I think
- 37:13Speaker 2: the big thing for me is looking at some of
- 37:15Speaker 2: the spots.
- 37:15Speaker 3: It's like, if if you're on doubtle, fine, but if
- 37:19Speaker 3: you're not, I would be comfortable playing Saints D at
- 37:21Speaker 3: twenty four hundred. We just saw a cheap d get
- 37:23Speaker 3: there last week that was against Kimani Vidal and the
- 37:26Speaker 3: popular defense. On the other side, you could see something
- 37:29Speaker 3: like that this week if you didn't want to go
- 37:31Speaker 3: that route. I think another one somebody mentioned it earlier
- 37:33Speaker 3: but was like, you could definitely flip the brown side.
- 37:36Speaker 3: I know the Jets are in shambles and everyone says
- 37:38Speaker 3: they suck now and others they're still I think last night,
- 37:41Speaker 3: look they were still favorites, or maybe they moved to
- 37:43Speaker 3: slight underdogs. No, yeah, slight underdogs what they moved to,
- 37:46Speaker 3: so that you know, at the end of the day,
- 37:48Speaker 3: I think you can see that stuff flip. We've seen
- 37:51Speaker 3: teams like look at the stuff we've seen lately. We
- 37:52Speaker 3: see in Carolina beat Green Bay. We've seen you know,
- 37:56Speaker 3: all these teams show up in these spots where it's like,
- 37:58Speaker 3: it's definitely possible, and that's just two bad teams, so.
- 38:00Speaker 2: It could go either way.
- 38:01Speaker 3: But what game stack do you think people are gonna
- 38:06Speaker 3: end up on the most and then what are sort
- 38:08Speaker 3: of the fallbacks to the secondary and third? Like, if
- 38:11Speaker 3: they're not on that game stack, where's the next one
- 38:13Speaker 3: gonna be? Because it may be like part of the
- 38:15Speaker 3: common build where you see people landing, But I'm still
- 38:17Speaker 3: hearing a lot of people talk about the Brissette side
- 38:20Speaker 3: of that Seahawks game and the Donald side of that
- 38:23Speaker 3: game as well, So I'm wondering if that's the one
- 38:26Speaker 3: where you could just see a little bit of a
- 38:29Speaker 3: break a breakdown. I mean, I'll build for that in
- 38:31Speaker 3: some but in like my single entry, I think that's
- 38:33Speaker 3: what I'm gonna not go to when we get the
- 38:35Speaker 3: leverage lane, I think it's gonna be something different.
- 38:37Speaker 4: Yeah, I think people are gonna go to that game
- 38:39Speaker 4: for sure. I think people are gonna use JJ McCarthy
- 38:41Speaker 4: as well with Minnesota and just kind of flip that
- 38:45Speaker 4: a little bit. And I think that that's a that's
- 38:49Speaker 4: an interesting one because even though you're using a forty
- 38:51Speaker 4: nine hundred dollars quarterback, it's not necessarily a cheap stack
- 38:54Speaker 4: as long as you're going to justin Jefferson, but it's
- 38:57Speaker 4: it's very similar to the Arizona stack in that way.
- 39:00Speaker 4: Right Like, if you're using per set, you're probably using
- 39:04Speaker 4: JSM as one of your pay ups. Same idea here,
- 39:07Speaker 4: You're you're still you know, building this this kind of
- 39:10Speaker 4: lineup that says, Okay, I'm gonna try to get to
- 39:12Speaker 4: two studs, but one of them is now just included
- 39:15Speaker 4: in the stack. So maybe it would be something like McCarthy, Jefferson,
- 39:20Speaker 4: Addison in Flowers, or maybe you even use Mark Andrews
- 39:23Speaker 4: as the bringback. Personally, I don't like that. I think
- 39:25Speaker 4: you made this point on the show with Pat, But yeah,
- 39:27Speaker 4: Mark Andrews gets their rescoring touchdowns, so I like I
- 39:31Speaker 4: like Flowers more as a bringback then I like Andrews.
- 39:33Speaker 4: But but you get the idea, right like, you're you're
- 39:36Speaker 4: you're going to McCarthy to save a lot of money
- 39:38Speaker 4: at that one quarterback spot so that you can still
- 39:42Speaker 4: get access to a lot of these studs, and you're
- 39:44Speaker 4: just now using the studs in a correlated way as well.
- 39:48Speaker 4: So I think that'll be used quite a bit the
- 39:51Speaker 4: one game that I expected to be crazy popular that
- 39:53Speaker 4: doesn't seem to be that popular in Chicago and New York.
- 39:56Speaker 4: I thought that would be like a massively popular game,
- 39:59Speaker 4: and I was actually projecting it that way prior to
- 40:02Speaker 4: the update that I did this morning, because I'm just
- 40:04Speaker 4: not seeing the signs of people really liking that game.
- 40:06Speaker 4: I honestly think that part of that, though, is people
- 40:09Speaker 4: looked at ownership for the first time this week, they saw,
- 40:12Speaker 4: oh my god, Wandell Robinson's at twenty percent. Again, I'm
- 40:15Speaker 4: not doing that right like they just did that last week.
- 40:17Speaker 4: Wandell did not really come through. Dart had a fine game,
- 40:20Speaker 4: but they didn't want to go back to that thought.
- 40:23Speaker 4: It looks like and Me's gonna play, so it's a
- 40:25Speaker 4: little bit harder to figure out how to stack Kaitla Williams.
- 40:27Speaker 4: Rome is coming off such an awful game, so I
- 40:30Speaker 4: think people were turned off to that game when they
- 40:34Speaker 4: saw ownership there. Now that around the industry, you're not
- 40:37Speaker 4: seeing a whole lot of ownership on that game, and
- 40:40Speaker 4: I'm not seeing like the signs of interest that I
- 40:42Speaker 4: was expecting to see from that game. Maybe people will
- 40:45Speaker 4: actually start to like it again and it'll get some
- 40:47Speaker 4: buzz again. But that to me is probably like the
- 40:50Speaker 4: clear and obvious pivot at the moment. I'm not sure
- 40:53Speaker 4: if there are too many other really cheap options. I
- 40:56Speaker 4: think you can do some really cheap stuff with Drake Maystacks.
- 40:59Speaker 4: He's not the cheapest, but if you're going you know,
- 41:03Speaker 4: Pop Douglas and Hunter Henry as your two, that makes
- 41:07Speaker 4: it really cheap. Or even if you're going May Digs
- 41:10Speaker 4: Hunter Henry, that probably qualifies more as like the mid
- 41:13Speaker 4: tier type stack that we talked about, where you're not
- 41:16Speaker 4: necessarily saving a ton of money in any one spot,
- 41:21Speaker 4: but you're also not spending in any one spot in
- 41:25Speaker 4: that stack. So that would be a really good way
- 41:27Speaker 4: to build a lineup that you know has only one
- 41:29Speaker 4: stud or has nobody over seventy five hundred dollars something
- 41:33Speaker 4: like that, So that one also could get some ownership.
- 41:35Speaker 4: But I think the theme of the week honestly is
- 41:37Speaker 4: that there's there isn't like a super common stack. It's
- 41:41Speaker 4: a structure that's going to be common, but there isn't
- 41:44Speaker 4: one that people are going with. So if you if
- 41:45Speaker 4: you have one that you have a lot of conviction
- 41:47Speaker 4: on it, I think you can play it however you want.
- 41:50Speaker 3: Yeah, I want to say it's definitely the weather that's
- 41:53Speaker 3: throwing people off this. So right now, the current projection
- 41:55Speaker 3: for that game is twenty five to thirty mile per
- 41:57Speaker 3: hour wins with potential for rain and snow. Again, it's Chicago,
- 42:01Speaker 3: much like you know in Philly, all these in New York,
- 42:03Speaker 3: all these plays.
- 42:04Speaker 2: I'm in Canada. It's no different here.
- 42:06Speaker 3: The weather could say one thing today and be something
- 42:08Speaker 3: totally different tomorrow. That would definitely be something. But the
- 42:11Speaker 3: chat's caught ontre here two talking about the weather scaring
- 42:13Speaker 3: people off. My man Jonesy's just on an absolute heater
- 42:16Speaker 3: over at the Nation says ninety percent chance of snow
- 42:18Speaker 3: for Chicago. Ge again, and if that's the case, that's
- 42:21Speaker 3: going to be part of it as well. But I
- 42:22Speaker 3: definitely think that's part of what's scared people off. I'll
- 42:26Speaker 3: think about it as I go through before we get
- 42:27Speaker 3: to the other stuff, But just to kind of give
- 42:29Speaker 3: a couple spots.
- 42:30Speaker 2: One is game by game quickly.
- 42:32Speaker 3: Like on the Panther side, Ted McMillan popped up on
- 42:35Speaker 3: the injury report. Now, if he's out, I think there's
- 42:37Speaker 3: already if your start for value an option. The chat
- 42:40Speaker 3: mentioned that I've been on a little bit thinking about
- 42:43Speaker 3: him last couple of weeks, but Jalen Cocher is thirty
- 42:45Speaker 3: three hundred. He would already be a leverage play as
- 42:48Speaker 3: an option there if you weren't on dubtle and if
- 42:50Speaker 3: you want value to make something work.
- 42:51Speaker 2: It's thin, but just a note.
- 42:53Speaker 3: Obviously it would get a lot nicer, a little bit
- 42:55Speaker 3: better if TET was out, and you'd feel good about
- 42:57Speaker 3: just sort of landing there. If you landed there, at
- 42:59Speaker 3: least I would, So I'll note that the other thing
- 43:02Speaker 3: is swift with the personal issue. It was like thinking
- 43:05Speaker 3: he's coming back the questionable tag. Now it looks a
- 43:08Speaker 3: little more murky. I was already interested in this, and
- 43:11Speaker 3: it may pick up steam by Sunday because people are
- 43:13Speaker 3: starved for value. But I like that he's fifty six hundred.
- 43:16Speaker 3: Is Manungai off last week? This is another great matchup
- 43:19Speaker 3: snow Rain, don't care. Why not just run the guy
- 43:22Speaker 3: into the ground right now? At fifty six hundred, I
- 43:24Speaker 3: think he becomes a spot to go to here on
- 43:26Speaker 3: this slate, if, especially if we get the swift news
- 43:29Speaker 3: in that game. I think he would fit no matter
- 43:31Speaker 3: what talked about Collins already, I'll move quicker, but Collins
- 43:35Speaker 3: against the Jags, d just Collins in general, sixty seven
- 43:38Speaker 3: hundred is a fair price. We already had a good
- 43:40Speaker 3: enough conversation I think around the Bills Dolphins. The one
- 43:42Speaker 3: thing I did want to bring up, though, back to
- 43:44Speaker 3: the JJ McCarthy and the gamestack factor there is you know,
- 43:48Speaker 3: can they push the Ravens. That's what it always comes
- 43:50Speaker 3: down to. We've had these conversations in the past. You
- 43:53Speaker 3: need a team that can be able to do it,
- 43:54Speaker 3: and I think they can. We just saw it last
- 43:56Speaker 3: week against Detroit where they could do it. They do
- 43:59Speaker 3: have Addison, Jefferson, they have Hawkinson, They've got a running
- 44:02Speaker 3: game there that they can move around and do some
- 44:04Speaker 3: stuff with. So a fair team total. I'm not saying
- 44:08Speaker 3: we're gonna see the JJ from last week, because I
- 44:10Speaker 3: didn't have much faith in them then. But the thing
- 44:12Speaker 3: about this stack is as much as Jefferson is seventy
- 44:14Speaker 3: nine hundred, McCarthy forty nine, opposite of Lamar, who's expensive,
- 44:20Speaker 3: and really it's too cheap for these quarterback prices, but
- 44:23Speaker 3: they left all the players this way this week.
- 44:25Speaker 2: Addison only fifty four.
- 44:26Speaker 3: And one of the most interesting things of this is
- 44:28Speaker 3: it's probably the better matchup anyway if you are going
- 44:31Speaker 3: against Minnesota is to get there on the ground. We
- 44:34Speaker 3: had interest in Gibbs, we had interest in Montgomery. People
- 44:36Speaker 3: were looking at those options.
- 44:38Speaker 2: Last week.
- 44:38Speaker 3: I say we as like as an industry, people were
- 44:40Speaker 3: looking at these spots. And now you get Dereck Henry
- 44:44Speaker 3: at sixty eight hundred. It's not that far off from
- 44:47Speaker 3: like a Doubdle or something like that. But I want
- 44:49Speaker 3: to put him in away. And you can play him
- 44:50Speaker 3: with Dawtell too, but I'm saying I want to put
- 44:51Speaker 3: him in a way that makes sense.
- 44:53Speaker 2: Well, what gets this game rolling is.
- 44:55Speaker 3: Him on the ground early, and then it's McCarthy needing
- 44:57Speaker 3: to keep pace and throw it back and forth. It
- 45:00Speaker 3: would also affect it further if you left Zay out,
- 45:03Speaker 3: who is thirty percent or whatever, ends up being twenty
- 45:05Speaker 3: to thirty percent whenever he comes in at in your tournament.
- 45:08Speaker 3: So I think those are some more interesting ones. We
- 45:11Speaker 3: talked about the Browns Jets already. We talked about Drake
- 45:14Speaker 3: May a little bit. I think the Drake May one
- 45:15Speaker 3: just people have people have a hard time stacking him,
- 45:18Speaker 3: and because if it's not Booty who's now out this week,
- 45:22Speaker 3: it really though it did get kind of thinner, So
- 45:24Speaker 3: you mentioned him quickly there, Alex. But like if you're
- 45:26Speaker 3: stacking him up, you have Digs Mayo, like Pop Douglas.
- 45:30Speaker 3: You've got Henry who looks like he's popular. But the
- 45:33Speaker 3: one I always use, there's one hundred people in the
- 45:34Speaker 3: room and ninety of them are leaving the room to
- 45:36Speaker 3: not play Hunter Henry, so it's not like he's that popular.
- 45:39Speaker 3: People like to call everything chalk. Ten percent wouldn't be
- 45:42Speaker 3: that bad. Do you have any thoughts? I guess my
- 45:44Speaker 3: question would be, you know, on the other side of
- 45:46Speaker 3: that game, I do think the total's big enough. I
- 45:48Speaker 3: think the spot's possible to really bad pass defenses on paper.
- 45:52Speaker 3: But do you have any other thoughts on the Tampa
- 45:54Speaker 3: Bay side of this game? To make Drake may move
- 45:57Speaker 3: so real quick?
- 45:57Speaker 4: I actually have Hunter Henry at twenty and a half percent,
- 46:00Speaker 4: so it'd be eighty percent of the of the room leaving,
- 46:03Speaker 4: not ninety.
- 46:04Speaker 3: But I would take the honor on that, and we
- 46:07Speaker 3: we tend to agree, but I don't again, people need value,
- 46:10Speaker 3: so I get where it's coming from. But part of
- 46:13Speaker 3: these people going to their you know, comfortable stacks, I
- 46:17Speaker 3: think always leads to a moonwalk, and I think that
- 46:19Speaker 3: could be the case with Henry. But I'll give you
- 46:21Speaker 3: like fifteen to twenties. That's fine even continue on.
- 46:24Speaker 4: Yeah, that's definitely possible. On the Tampa side, like I think,
- 46:28Speaker 4: I think Abouka might come in a little bit lower
- 46:30Speaker 4: than people expect just because the matchup is not good.
- 46:33Speaker 4: Like I made this point in my discord, but on
- 46:37Speaker 4: the year the New England pass defense, their numbers still
- 46:41Speaker 4: look pretty bad, but Christian Gonzales was out for the
- 46:45Speaker 4: first three weeks. Since he came back, they are number
- 46:48Speaker 4: two in past TV away so this is a much
- 46:52Speaker 4: much much better pass defense than their season long numbers
- 46:54Speaker 4: will because they were just that bad for the first
- 46:56Speaker 4: three weeks before their superstar corner came back. We just
- 47:00Speaker 4: saw Drake London do really really well against them, so
- 47:03Speaker 4: maybe that affects things. But as good as a book is,
- 47:07Speaker 4: he's not Drake London. Drake London is outstanding and he
- 47:11Speaker 4: made a lot of like outstanding contested catches, which is
- 47:14Speaker 4: not a Buuka's game at least at this point in
- 47:17Speaker 4: his career yet, so I think it's a really bad
- 47:19Speaker 4: spot firm. I think most people are going to kind
- 47:21Speaker 4: of agree and just think, you know what, he's too
- 47:24Speaker 4: close to Jefferson and Saint Brown. If I'm going to
- 47:27Speaker 4: pay seven thousand dollars for a book, guy, I can
- 47:29Speaker 4: find the thousand to get to one of those guys.
- 47:32Speaker 4: So that's kind of how I see that. But that
- 47:34Speaker 4: does make him a pretty good option as a bringback
- 47:37Speaker 4: to any may stuff. And I do think like you
- 47:39Speaker 4: could go to Test Johnson. I think it's gonna be
- 47:41Speaker 4: like ten percent. He could go to Rashad White and
- 47:44Speaker 4: just hope he scores multiple touchdowns, even though that's pretty ugly,
- 47:47Speaker 4: Like they can't run the ball against anyone. They're definitely
- 47:49Speaker 4: not gonna be able to run the ball against New England.
- 47:51Speaker 4: So you're just hoping that Rashad gets their own touchdowns
- 47:53Speaker 4: and receiving stuff. But yeah, I don't think any that's
- 47:56Speaker 4: necessarily bad or wrong to do. It's a it's an
- 48:00Speaker 4: interesting game because we know that people are going to
- 48:04Speaker 4: think of that game like it's two of the biggest
- 48:07Speaker 4: pass funnels in the league, right, Like both of those
- 48:09Speaker 4: run defenses are really good and both run offenses are
- 48:14Speaker 4: really bad. We should expect a lot of dropbacks in
- 48:17Speaker 4: that game. So from just a pure game environment perspective,
- 48:20Speaker 4: it is really really interesting, and I think a lot
- 48:23Speaker 4: of people are gonna have that thought and still not
- 48:25Speaker 4: land on it because they don't know how to stack,
- 48:26Speaker 4: they don't know how to play it. They don't have
- 48:28Speaker 4: any conviction on any of the individual players, even though
- 48:31Speaker 4: they agree conceptually it's a good spot for everyone in
- 48:34Speaker 4: the game.
- 48:35Speaker 3: Well, one thing I do like, you know, even if
- 48:37Speaker 3: Henry got to that ownership because he makes it cheaper,
- 48:40Speaker 3: is potentially going with something like people callings got the
- 48:42Speaker 3: MVP before. If you go to baker a Buca Tes
- 48:45Speaker 3: run it back with Henry, you can still get a again.
- 48:48Speaker 2: That's where I'm saying.
- 48:48Speaker 3: When it hits someone's like, oh I had all those
- 48:51Speaker 3: other right pieces, I just didn't land on that stack.
- 48:53Speaker 3: It's like, oh, I wasn't gonna play that loser chalk Henry.
- 48:56Speaker 3: But it's not who you play, it's how you play
- 48:58Speaker 3: them that would make some sense, and then you don't have.
- 49:00Speaker 2: To try and figure out the other side.
- 49:03Speaker 3: Even though may's fine, it's more we know May or
- 49:06Speaker 3: Baker could push the other. So if you like the
- 49:08Speaker 3: Drake May side better, I'm talking to people out there
- 49:10Speaker 3: watching by all means, go to that's that's the whole
- 49:12Speaker 3: point of leverage lane.
- 49:13Speaker 2: If that's your lane, go to it.
- 49:14Speaker 3: This is not my lane, but just making a note
- 49:16Speaker 3: and thinking about it, I don't see anywhere in the
- 49:18Speaker 3: world Iguka can get ownership on this slate yet. I
- 49:21Speaker 3: do think it's a pretty good spot. You look at
- 49:23Speaker 3: the props, you look at the matchup, you look at
- 49:24Speaker 3: the capability of can this game be pushed? It can,
- 49:28Speaker 3: and neither side you could. Really you can't really run
- 49:30Speaker 3: in this spot. And I'll tell you what, Patriots don't
- 49:33Speaker 3: seem to want to run anyway because they still can't
- 49:36Speaker 3: get this guy. We've been trying to make Henderson work
- 49:38Speaker 3: for weeks now. Just doesn't seem to be a thing.
- 49:39Speaker 3: So that's somewhat interesting just from that perspective. The other
- 49:43Speaker 3: thing is to alex as we rounded out here, it's
- 49:46Speaker 3: the last three games on the slate, kind of like
- 49:48Speaker 3: the way we're doing it today. These all have very
- 49:51Speaker 3: high interest in many ways, and there's definitely gonna be
- 49:54Speaker 3: late swap. There's always late swap. I shouldn't say like that,
- 49:57Speaker 3: like it's some revolutionary thing. Mind you, most people don't
- 49:59Speaker 3: do it at all, So you know, I'm guarantee you
- 50:01Speaker 3: that too. But this is a really interesting, even an
- 50:04Speaker 3: afternoon only slate, when you have Brissett, Darnold, Stafford, mac Jones, Goff,
- 50:10Speaker 3: and Mariota. These are all starting points for people. There's
- 50:14Speaker 3: all good game environments. What have we got all thirty Like,
- 50:19Speaker 3: we've got pretty much what forty seven and up for
- 50:21Speaker 3: game total on all three of these games. So I
- 50:24Speaker 3: guess the one spot we didn't spend a lot of
- 50:25Speaker 3: time on outside of a little bit of mentioning of
- 50:28Speaker 3: a Monra is the Lions spot. We did spend a
- 50:31Speaker 3: lot of time on Rams forty nine ers. We've definitely
- 50:33Speaker 3: spent time on Cardinals Seahawks. Do you want to finish
- 50:35Speaker 3: out just talking a little bit about this Detroit spot?
- 50:38Speaker 3: Thirty point team total, implied team total at home, any
- 50:41Speaker 3: thoughts on that?
- 50:42Speaker 4: Yeah, this is a game where I think the prevailing
- 50:45Speaker 4: narrative around the industry is this is one of those
- 50:47Speaker 4: spots where Detroit could run up the score. Right. It's
- 50:51Speaker 4: a rematch of the playoff game that they lost. They're
- 50:54Speaker 4: coming off one of their most underwhelming games of the
- 50:58Speaker 4: last few years, and Washington kind of stinks across the
- 51:03Speaker 4: board now, particularly no Jayden know Terry like this Detroit
- 51:07Speaker 4: defense should have a field day and offensively they can
- 51:09Speaker 4: probably do whatever they want here.
- 51:11Speaker 2: And so.
- 51:14Speaker 4: I'm thinking of this in a couple of ways. Like one,
- 51:17Speaker 4: I think you can absolutely go with golf triples. You
- 51:20Speaker 4: could go GoF Saint Brown, Jameson Williams, Samuel Porter and
- 51:23Speaker 4: hope he throws one of those five touchdown games. That's
- 51:25Speaker 4: a I think, a really good way to build this out.
- 51:28Speaker 4: I also think Jamier Gibbs might slip through the cracks
- 51:32Speaker 4: and he might be ten percent when McCaffrey, cook, a Chan,
- 51:37Speaker 4: Henry Judkins, Dowdell are all, you know, soaking up so
- 51:41Speaker 4: much ownership around him. And is there a better spot
- 51:44Speaker 4: for running back on this slate than Gibbs against Washington
- 51:48Speaker 4: throw last week out the window. Flores had a blitzing
- 51:52Speaker 4: plan that forced gibbshi Montgomery to be pass blockers every
- 51:56Speaker 4: drop back instead of being able to run routes, and
- 52:00Speaker 4: they ended up trusting Montgomery a little bit more in
- 52:02Speaker 4: that role. That's not going to affect who's on the field.
- 52:05Speaker 4: This week. We've seen Gibbs, you know, even in a
- 52:08Speaker 4: shared role, put up thirty nine point eight against Tampa.
- 52:12Speaker 4: That's that's the Tampa run defense we're talking about, Washington.
- 52:15Speaker 4: He has a massive, massive ceiling here. If I think
- 52:19Speaker 4: he's gonna slip into like seven percent eight percent, I'm
- 52:22Speaker 4: gonna play him, just point blank period. If I think
- 52:24Speaker 4: he's gonna be single digits, I'm gonna play him. But
- 52:28Speaker 4: I think it's also one of those spots where like
- 52:31Speaker 4: maybe you put I'm on rust Saint Brown in your
- 52:33Speaker 4: flex and if you need to get a little bit
- 52:35Speaker 4: more contrarian with late swap, you swap him to Gibbs
- 52:39Speaker 4: or something like that. But but yeah, it's it's a
- 52:42Speaker 4: really kind of incredible spot for the whole offense. And
- 52:45Speaker 4: I do think it's to me, he played a little
- 52:46Speaker 4: bit more than an ownership suggests. Like I have Jamison
- 52:49Speaker 4: Williams coming in over ten percent. I think most people
- 52:52Speaker 4: think he's gonna be seven percent, eight percent something like that.
- 52:55Speaker 4: Laporta I think is gonna be a little bit higher
- 52:57Speaker 4: than people expect. But Gibbs to me, is the one
- 53:00Speaker 4: that might actually slip at the cracks and be less
- 53:02Speaker 4: than people expect as people opt instead to go attack
- 53:05Speaker 4: that passing game.
- 53:06Speaker 3: Yeah, one thing I love this week too again clearly
- 53:09Speaker 3: and currently start for value. Like we said, so, one
- 53:11Speaker 3: of the common things I'm seeing that this is a
- 53:13Speaker 3: double whammy. It's first of all, when you've already got CMC,
- 53:16Speaker 3: who's a thousand bucks more, less people like Gibbs really
- 53:19Speaker 3: triple whammy less people like Gibbs for that reason, Gibbs
- 53:22Speaker 3: failed everybody last week, and even the people that believe
- 53:25Speaker 3: what we believe, the chat doesn't always believe, but even
- 53:28Speaker 3: the people believe that we believe that the Lions could
- 53:30Speaker 3: come back with a chip on their shoulder and just
- 53:31Speaker 3: smash this. Jayden Daniels lists Commander's team now and be
- 53:36Speaker 3: able to get after it. They kind of want Montgomery
- 53:39Speaker 3: because it's like, oh, if I can just get a
- 53:40Speaker 3: five k running back, he at least can get something there.
- 53:42Speaker 3: So it leads to ten or eleven percent. Gibbs in
- 53:46Speaker 3: a great spot after everybody.
- 53:47Speaker 2: Loved him that this week.
- 53:48Speaker 3: The matchup's phenomenon, if they're actually going to be up,
- 53:50Speaker 3: it might get even better. The guy's electric with the
- 53:52Speaker 3: ball in hand, he's a thousand. Think of him as
- 53:54Speaker 3: a thousand less than McCaffrey in those bills, and you
- 53:57Speaker 3: think about ways to use that to your advantage. So
- 54:00Speaker 3: I think the Detroit spot's really good. I'm gonna be
- 54:01Speaker 3: mixing it up a ton. I've talked about this also
- 54:04Speaker 3: a ton in the past. While everybody else tries to
- 54:05Speaker 3: figure out cornerbackers, wide receiver and this, that and the
- 54:09Speaker 3: other and all these things, I just that's not my
- 54:11Speaker 3: lane's that's not my stuff when it comes to DFS.
- 54:13Speaker 2: I want to focus on the game and playing it.
- 54:15Speaker 3: And I think for single entry, I've got a different
- 54:19Speaker 3: spot that I'm gonna go, but it may include this
- 54:21Speaker 3: spot to what we just mentioned, but I will definitely
- 54:23Speaker 3: have some goff.
- 54:24Speaker 2: I thought about this from my leverage lane.
- 54:25Speaker 3: We're gonna get there in a second, but I thought
- 54:27Speaker 3: about like goff a'mnra Jamison Laporta, no run back and honestly,
- 54:31Speaker 3: maybe even putting the Lions d and just going full onslot.
- 54:34Speaker 2: I've done this in the.
- 54:35Speaker 3: Past in single entry or higher dollars, smaller field stuff.
- 54:39Speaker 3: You can really get away with that if you think
- 54:40Speaker 3: they're just gonna pop forty points on them and just crush.
- 54:42Speaker 3: That could be a way to do it. You don't
- 54:44Speaker 3: need to run it back, you can shorten it, you
- 54:46Speaker 3: can do whatever you want as far as the sax
- 54:47Speaker 3: size goes here. But I definitely think there's just a
- 54:50Speaker 3: chance that the Lions just crush and score a ton
- 54:52Speaker 3: of points, and I'm gonna want to be involved if
- 54:54Speaker 3: that happens.
- 54:55Speaker 2: So I think that's kind of it.
- 54:56Speaker 1: Man.
- 54:57Speaker 3: On everything else, if people think we miss stuff, by
- 54:59Speaker 3: all means, can hit us up in the chat if
- 55:02Speaker 3: you want to go through more. But do you have
- 55:04Speaker 3: anything else, Alex before we get to our lane, I
- 55:06Speaker 3: do not.
- 55:07Speaker 2: All right, I'll let you start it off. Man, I
- 55:09Speaker 2: don't think we're on the same one at all, so
- 55:10Speaker 2: I'll let you go ahead first.
- 55:12Speaker 4: Yeah, I wasn't entirely sure which one I was gonna
- 55:15Speaker 4: go with. I think there's a very good chance that
- 55:18Speaker 4: the thing I end up feeling the strongest about is
- 55:21Speaker 4: is dart stacks. I'd like to see how the weather
- 55:25Speaker 4: report looks. I'm not I'm very rarely kind of turned
- 55:29Speaker 4: off by weather. The combination though of snow and wind
- 55:34Speaker 4: or rain and wind. That's where I do think you
- 55:36Speaker 4: get a little bit dicey. So if if one of
- 55:39Speaker 4: the two kind of doesn't look that way comes Sunday,
- 55:42Speaker 4: whether it's the wind is actually laying down even though
- 55:44Speaker 4: it's gonna rain or snow a little bit, or it's
- 55:47Speaker 4: gonna be windy, but there's no precipitation anymore. I think
- 55:50Speaker 4: that's where I'll end up going. But my leverage lane
- 55:53Speaker 4: is going to be kind of a very contrariant thought,
- 55:56Speaker 4: which is to pair Phuka Nakua with kyn william Obviously,
- 56:01Speaker 4: most people are going to just kind of choose their
- 56:03Speaker 4: favorite Ram if they really like this game. But I
- 56:05Speaker 4: think this sets up as one of those games where
- 56:07Speaker 4: the Rams offense is going to be able to do
- 56:09Speaker 4: whatever they want every single possession. You're going to see
- 56:13Speaker 4: chunk play after chunk play to Pooka. You're going to
- 56:15Speaker 4: see a lot of touchdown equity for Kyron Williams. I
- 56:18Speaker 4: think we could get something like, you know, twelve for
- 56:21Speaker 4: one point fifty and a score from Pooka and combine
- 56:23Speaker 4: that with one hundred yard bonus and two or three
- 56:26Speaker 4: touchdowns for Kyron Williams. I think they both have a
- 56:29Speaker 4: path to a ceiling together. And I just want to
- 56:31Speaker 4: be on this offense in a big way. But we
- 56:33Speaker 4: talked through earlier how difficult it is to actually pull
- 56:36Speaker 4: off a Stafford double stack. So if I'm not going
- 56:40Speaker 4: to try the Stafford double, how do I go all
- 56:43Speaker 4: in on this offense? I pair a running back with
- 56:45Speaker 4: the receiver. Stafford's not going to get there. If Kyron
- 56:48Speaker 4: scores multiple touchdowns, but that offense could very easily still
- 56:51Speaker 4: score five touchdowns total. And if I get three or
- 56:54Speaker 4: four of those from this Puka and Kyroen combination and
- 56:57Speaker 4: they both hit one hundred yard bonus, you're going to
- 56:59Speaker 4: see both of them in optimal lineup. So I think
- 57:03Speaker 4: that's gonna be my leverage lane. It's the combo of
- 57:06Speaker 4: Puka and Kyroene. Let them go nuts.
- 57:08Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 57:09Speaker 3: One very thing I mean, I'm not picking on banking
- 57:11Speaker 3: today is in here. I appreciate all the engagement. But
- 57:13Speaker 3: one of the biggest leaks and misconceptions and people in
- 57:15Speaker 3: DFS is the score, meaning the points. Obviously, the more score,
- 57:19Speaker 3: the higher the score you can have, the more points
- 57:20Speaker 3: that are out there. But in a twenty four to
- 57:22Speaker 3: nineteen you could have three optimal plays from that game.
- 57:25Speaker 2: It's all who scores the points to his point.
- 57:28Speaker 3: What if the twenty four is the Rams and it's
- 57:30Speaker 3: a touchdown, ten catches and one hundred and seventy for
- 57:33Speaker 3: Puka and it's two touchdowns from Williams on the ground,
- 57:37Speaker 3: that's two options right there. And that's not even at
- 57:40Speaker 3: twenty four points. That's the three touchdowns and then there's
- 57:42Speaker 3: a field goal in there. So just to throw that
- 57:44Speaker 3: out there, the score doesn't always matter when it comes
- 57:47Speaker 3: to the actual output of the lineup. I think that's
- 57:49Speaker 3: a big mistake a lot of people or this Bears
- 57:52Speaker 3: team sucks. They only got a nineteen point team total.
- 57:54Speaker 3: And then DJ Moore catches ten catches, one hundred yards,
- 57:58Speaker 3: a touchdown and throws a touchdown. It's like, wow, they
- 58:01Speaker 3: only put up two touchdowns, but he was in on
- 58:02Speaker 3: both of them, and that's part of the thought process,
- 58:05Speaker 3: So you can get there in these spots.
- 58:06Speaker 2: Still, that's a note anyone.
- 58:08Speaker 4: I also, yeah, I also just don't agree that the
- 58:10Speaker 4: game is going under. Maybe it goes under because San
- 58:12Speaker 4: Francisco doesn't produce, But give me the overall day on
- 58:16Speaker 4: the Los Angeles team total, like I said, nineteen of
- 58:18Speaker 4: twenty two, two hundred yards and two touchdowns just attacking
- 58:21Speaker 4: the middle of the field in the last two games.
- 58:23Speaker 4: That's a Nico Collins list, CJ. Stroud and Jackson Dark Stafford,
- 58:29Speaker 4: and this offense, I think is going to absolutely shred
- 58:31Speaker 4: them just posts like an absolutely massive success rate some explosives,
- 58:35Speaker 4: but they don't even need the explosives, right, And if
- 58:37Speaker 4: they don't get the explosives, that makes it even more
- 58:40Speaker 4: likely that two of these guys hit together because it
- 58:42Speaker 4: means you get a Pookah twenty yard reception and now
- 58:46Speaker 4: a Kyron eight yard run, now a Pookah twelve yard reception,
- 58:48Speaker 4: now Kyron eight yard reception, and they just stack the
- 58:52Speaker 4: points on top of each other, on top of each other,
- 58:54Speaker 4: and they get the touchdown. So I love them together
- 58:56Speaker 4: and I just love attacking that game or whatever we
- 58:59Speaker 4: can too.
- 59:00Speaker 3: And that's why I was hoping you would just stop
- 59:02Speaker 3: after you said the dart stuff, because you leaked in
- 59:04Speaker 3: a little bit to mine. But it is different, So
- 59:06Speaker 3: I'm gonna go heavy on mine again this week. I'll
- 59:08Speaker 3: put four pieces to it in just a second. But
- 59:10Speaker 3: one thing I want to note, actually very interesting, because
- 59:12Speaker 3: you did bring up the dart stuff, is the Vegas
- 59:16Speaker 3: total does not have any fear of the weather either
- 59:19Speaker 3: as of yet. To me what I'm seeing, if you
- 59:21Speaker 3: go look at some of these Vegas odds and insiders stuff,
- 59:24Speaker 3: it actually looks like the total has rose from forty
- 59:26Speaker 3: three and a half open, which is just an opening line,
- 59:29Speaker 3: but it's up to forty seven now for that line.
- 59:32Speaker 3: So I mean, like, it doesn't seem like they're very
- 59:35Speaker 3: scared of the weather in this spot, So at least
- 59:37Speaker 3: that's something to keep in mind.
- 59:38Speaker 4: I think part of that, by the way, is because
- 59:40Speaker 4: the Giants run defense is like totally inept, So even
- 59:45Speaker 4: if there's bad weather, Chicago at the very least should
- 59:48Speaker 4: be able to move the ball and score. I don't
- 59:51Speaker 4: want to say anything else on that because I'm afraid
- 59:53Speaker 4: it might be your leverage lane, but I I just.
- 59:56Speaker 2: Want to note it for you because you've brought up
- 59:58Speaker 2: the dart stuff and I like that.
- 59:59Speaker 4: Yeah, I do think the just like in general, whether
- 1:00:04Speaker 4: we think it's Manungai or whether we think it's Swift,
- 1:00:07Speaker 4: I am very confident that one of those two is
- 1:00:09Speaker 4: going to have a really really good game. I don't
- 1:00:11Speaker 4: know who's gonna run ahead of the other. I don't
- 1:00:13Speaker 4: know who's going to get the touchdowns. But I'm very
- 1:00:15Speaker 4: confident that one of those guys is a really good game.
- 1:00:17Speaker 4: So maybe the movie is just like bet the the
- 1:00:19Speaker 4: over on the on the rushing for both of those
- 1:00:21Speaker 4: guys and then not mess with it from a DFS perspective.
- 1:00:23Speaker 4: But if anyone out there, like, if you feel like
- 1:00:27Speaker 4: man I just don't like the dow Roll chalk, or
- 1:00:29Speaker 4: I don't like the Judkins chalk, right, I don't like
- 1:00:32Speaker 4: any running backs in that range. And you want to
- 1:00:34Speaker 4: take a chance on a sixty one hundred Swift or
- 1:00:36Speaker 4: a fifty six hundred Manongui, I'm all for it. One
- 1:00:39Speaker 4: of those two is gonna have a really good game.
- 1:00:40Speaker 3: Yeah one No two is again like I SAIDISTI about
- 1:00:42Speaker 3: wait on the Swift stuff, but right now my book
- 1:00:46Speaker 3: moved it quite a bit. Actually is Manungui has a
- 1:00:48Speaker 3: fifty five and a half rush yard prop to the
- 1:00:51Speaker 3: fifty one and a half for Swift. It converted it
- 1:00:54Speaker 3: already based on the news. Obviously that's not like rocket science,
- 1:00:56Speaker 3: but they both are. But Swift is still minus one
- 1:00:59Speaker 3: twenty five. I have to score anytime touchdown and Manunguy
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: is minus one zho five. So again an interesting thing
- 1:01:06Speaker 3: would be, like you could go pair up the manungui
- 1:01:08Speaker 3: anytime and the over on the rush yards. It might
- 1:01:12Speaker 3: still happen even if Swift plays, but if he doesn't,
- 1:01:15Speaker 3: you're you're way ahead of the curve, and that's you
- 1:01:16Speaker 3: taking the bet when they're willing to offer it. So
- 1:01:19Speaker 3: I think that's part of the thought process as well,
- 1:01:21Speaker 3: just in case. And the other thing I mentioned this
- 1:01:23Speaker 3: last week and it ended up coming true, and I'll
- 1:01:25Speaker 3: say it again, is lots of good team totals and
- 1:01:27Speaker 3: things to look at out there. We always talk about today.
- 1:01:29Speaker 3: We talked about with Detroit, We're talking about it with
- 1:01:31Speaker 3: the Rams and some of these other teams. But you
- 1:01:33Speaker 3: have to take note when a team like the Chicago
- 1:01:36Speaker 3: Bears have almost a twenty eight point team total or
- 1:01:38Speaker 3: something on the road last week in that matchup again,
- 1:01:41Speaker 3: still sitting there right now with like a twenty six
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: twenty seven range when it comes to their their team
- 1:01:46Speaker 3: total at home and again whether aside they got to
- 1:01:48Speaker 3: put those points up somehow.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: So definitely think that's something to consider.
- 1:01:52Speaker 3: But my leverage lane, I'm gonna fully commit to this
- 1:01:55Speaker 3: now because I was gonna go I was gonna halfway
- 1:01:58Speaker 3: in on this and just get there, you know, and
- 1:02:00Speaker 3: say Pooka and Kittle because I like that Pookah cost
- 1:02:05Speaker 3: McCaffrey money. It's really tricky to put them all together.
- 1:02:08Speaker 3: While I would prefer to have McCaffrey, that would be great,
- 1:02:10Speaker 3: maybe in my MM sets or something. There's some unique
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: versions of that that I get where it makes sense.
- 1:02:15Speaker 3: But for my single jury and my leverage lane, I'm
- 1:02:17Speaker 3: gonna go to the opposite side. I think for Stafford
- 1:02:19Speaker 3: to have the big game, he's gonna need to be pushed.
- 1:02:21Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to mac Jones, George Kittle, Poka Nakua,
- 1:02:27Speaker 3: and I'm gonna add the fourth I gotta I'm not
- 1:02:30Speaker 3: I guess I'll stop at three. But I'll say this,
- 1:02:32Speaker 3: there's a high likelihood that I get Jamior Gibbs into
- 1:02:35Speaker 3: this lineup as well as the way to sort of
- 1:02:37Speaker 3: point put out the Nikua over McCaffrey for big spend
- 1:02:42Speaker 3: while still spending at running back and then finding some
- 1:02:44Speaker 3: value plays across the middle. It's a little bit expensive
- 1:02:47Speaker 3: with Nikua and Gibbs, but when you add in mac
- 1:02:51Speaker 3: Jones and Kittle, and I'm hoping that Kittle eats the
- 1:02:53Speaker 3: touchdowns up. Obviously, the point of like my Mark Andrews
- 1:02:56Speaker 3: piece yesterday with Mayo is it like I don't really
- 1:02:58Speaker 3: want him just as a run back for it, because
- 1:03:01Speaker 3: if he gets there, I think it really helps the
- 1:03:02Speaker 3: Lamar side more so, I wouldn't really love that in
- 1:03:04Speaker 3: a JJ McCarthy side.
- 1:03:06Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Mac Jones.
- 1:03:07Speaker 3: Pooka, George Kittle, and I'll throw Gibbs in there too,
- 1:03:11Speaker 3: even though he's not in that game. He's not about
- 1:03:12Speaker 3: the game STAF. People are wondering what that means. It's
- 1:03:14Speaker 3: because he would be the guy for a thousand bucks
- 1:03:17Speaker 3: less than McCaffrey. And I really like the Gibbs spot
- 1:03:20Speaker 3: this week when nobody else does. After just a great
- 1:03:22Speaker 3: spot last week fell through, I think they're gonna come
- 1:03:24Speaker 3: back and find those points. So that's gonna be my
- 1:03:27Speaker 3: leverage lane for this week. Final thoughts, Alex, anything you
- 1:03:29Speaker 3: want to add there and then let the people know
- 1:03:31Speaker 3: where they can find you.
- 1:03:33Speaker 4: I like that a lot. I think you could also
- 1:03:34Speaker 4: use the double bringback if you wanted, right, Mac Jones,
- 1:03:37Speaker 4: George Kittle and then go Pooka and Kyron and just
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