Latest / Best of Business / Jon Duffy: Consumer NZ chief executive on the Commerce Commission filing charges against Noel Leeming over ‘Price Promise’ claims
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- 0:16Speaker 2: Now, the Commerce Commission is continuing its run of prosecuting retailers.
- 0:20Speaker 2: It's now filed criminal charges against Noel Leaming and this
- 0:23Speaker 2: is over its price promise. Now. The price promise is
- 0:26Speaker 2: the policy where if you find a product cheaper somewhere else,
- 0:28Speaker 2: Noel Leming will match the price for you. John Duffy
- 0:30Speaker 2: is the CEO of Consumer New Zealand.
- 0:32Speaker 3: A John, Hey, here the ho's going.
- 0:35Speaker 2: I'm very well, thank you. Do you have any concerns
- 0:36Speaker 2: around the price promise.
- 0:40Speaker 1: Here?
- 0:40Speaker 3: I mean it is a high risk strategy for retailers
- 0:43Speaker 3: because you know, there's there's lots that can come in
- 0:46Speaker 3: between your ability to offer the product and the customers
- 0:51Speaker 3: ability to find that elsewhere, including online, including you know, offshore.
- 0:57Speaker 3: There's lots of there's lots of caveats that businesses need
- 0:59Speaker 3: to do when they're offering these promises. And if those caveats,
- 1:03Speaker 3: if that list of caveats gets too long, you know,
- 1:07Speaker 3: agencies the Commus Commission can start getting concerned that actually
- 1:11Speaker 3: maybe the headline offer that it's a price matching promise
- 1:14Speaker 3: might not be as true as you'd hope it would be.
- 1:17Speaker 2: That sounds really subjective though, I mean, there's no there's
- 1:21Speaker 2: no objective way to dealt with the list is too long?
- 1:23Speaker 3: Is there? Yeah? Maybe that that was a bad example,
- 1:28Speaker 3: but if you if you get good examples of caveats
- 1:31Speaker 3: that make the headline advertising misleading. For example, if you
- 1:38Speaker 3: are the only stockist of a product, if you have
- 1:40Speaker 3: an exclusive deal with a brand that can't be bought
- 1:43Speaker 3: or a product that can't be bought anywhere else, and
- 1:45Speaker 3: you say we'll we'll match this price elsewhere, well that's
- 1:48Speaker 3: pretty misleading because you can't buy it elsewhere.
- 1:50Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, do you do you ever see? I
- 1:52Speaker 2: mean they said that they had about two hundred and
- 1:54Speaker 2: fifty thousand people actually use the price promise between twenty
- 1:58Speaker 2: nineteen and twenty twenty one, So if you count all
- 1:59Speaker 2: three years, then what's that about eighty thousand people a year?
- 2:02Speaker 2: Is that reasonable?
- 2:07Speaker 3: Well, it kind of shows if if the price profice
- 2:09Speaker 3: is misleading, it actually shows the scale of the problem.
- 2:12Speaker 3: So if they're putting that much volume through and they're
- 2:15Speaker 3: misrepresenting the terms here, well that's a huge number of
- 2:19Speaker 3: people who have been impacted by what could be misleading conduct.
- 2:22Speaker 3: We'll have to see how the case pans out to
- 2:24Speaker 3: see what the court decides, but we should also remember
- 2:27Speaker 3: that this is although I've noticed nol Lemmings have come
- 2:31Speaker 3: out and made comments refuting the allegations, but they're really
- 2:35Speaker 3: only focusing on this price promise part of the Commission's prosecution,
- 2:39Speaker 3: which is only one part of kind of three heads.
- 2:42Speaker 3: They've also been pained for potentially misleading or allegedly misleading
- 2:46Speaker 3: people about their rights under the Consumer Guarantees Act, which
- 2:49Speaker 3: is really interesting when you look at our complaints data
- 2:53Speaker 3: about nol Lemming, the vast majority of those complaints relate
- 2:57Speaker 3: to products that have broken or are faulty. So if
- 3:01Speaker 3: people are taking stuff back to the store and getting
- 3:03Speaker 3: mislead about their rights to a refund or a replacement,
- 3:06Speaker 3: that's very concerning.
- 3:08Speaker 2: John, Thanks so much, John Duffy, Consumer CEO.
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