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NFL Week 17 Leverage Lane | DraftKings & FanDuel DFS Strategy · Daily Fantasy Sports by Ship It Nation

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  Speaker 1: All system's going clear the left.
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  Speaker 2: What's up everyone? Tyler Tamberline here aka Totag and Tambo
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  Speaker 2: back for Week seventeen of Leverage Lane. We're calling this
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  Speaker 2: the final of the year. Got my man Alex Buckle
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  Speaker 2: here with me as always. Hope everyone's got to enjoy
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  Speaker 2: their holidays with friends, family, food, drinks and whatever makes
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  Speaker 2: you happy. But we'll be back. You know, we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: talk through this late really quick. We're back. We're gonna
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  Speaker 2: talk through nine games. We're gonna talk about it from
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  Speaker 2: a single entry GPP perspective as usual, we do. You
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  Speaker 2: have a big announcement, but you know we're not giving
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  Speaker 2: you that right away. We love to tease, so we'll
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  Speaker 2: save that one until the end. It's exciting, but then
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  Speaker 2: also a lot to talk about on this slate with
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  Speaker 2: some of the big games and all of that. So
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about an ownership perspective, what does the common
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  Speaker 2: build look like, how can we leverage that common build?
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  Speaker 2: And then of course at the end we'll get to
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  Speaker 2: our leverage lane. Mister Alex Blickel, we're back. What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: And man, how you doing?
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  Speaker 3: We are really really fun.
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  Speaker 4: Like last week and a half, if you will of
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  Speaker 4: the NFL is a really fun weekend. Honestly, Tima, it's
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  Speaker 4: been such a weird season. Like I've had a really
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  Speaker 4: good props here. I've had a really really good showdown here.
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  Speaker 4: Just had a great showdown in this past Monday. My
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  Speaker 4: main slates have been completely uneventful since week one, so
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  Speaker 4: hopefully we can buck that trend. Have a couple of
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  Speaker 4: tickets now in these last few weeks, so I'm gonna
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  Speaker 4: need to turn around that way.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it can easily turn around though, because I know
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  Speaker 2: some of the tickets you've been picking up Mega Millies
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  Speaker 2: and Ultimate. What do you got for tomorrow? You got
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  Speaker 2: you for the Ultimate?
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  Speaker 3: No, I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I have a Megamilli four thousand and four forty four ticket,
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  Speaker 4: but they don't have one of those this week.
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  Speaker 2: So it's okay running that big thirty three thirty three
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  Speaker 2: this week with two point five up top. So I'm
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  Speaker 2: debating what to do with that. I only have one
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  Speaker 2: ticket for it, but I kind of feel like, you know,
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  Speaker 2: maybe I'll throw an extra one. We'll see.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean this is I think this is kind
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  Speaker 4: of like a good conversation topic too. I have tried
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  Speaker 4: extremely hard every single week to get Mega Milli tickets.
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  Speaker 3: I haven't tried that hard.
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  Speaker 4: To get the main event tickets for the point that
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  Speaker 4: you kind of just made, which is, if you only
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  Speaker 4: have one and you're going up against you know, the
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  Speaker 4: best t best players and they have.
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  Speaker 3: Thirty whatever like it or more.
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  Speaker 4: It's gonna be really, really tough because of the types
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  Speaker 4: of you know, inverse correlation type things that they can
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  Speaker 4: do in those lineups where you really are at a
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  Speaker 4: disadvantage when you only have one. And so I feel like,
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  Speaker 4: you know, that disadvantage is smaller in a smaller contest
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  Speaker 4: like the Megamilli usually is. The Megamilli usually has something
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  Speaker 4: like seven hundred people, and I think this ultimate main
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  Speaker 4: event contest is over three thousand if I saw correctly.
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  Speaker 4: So I'm kind of curious to your thoughts there. Do
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  Speaker 4: you kind of pay attention to that when you're looking
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  Speaker 4: for tickets, because I think, like, why why try for
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  Speaker 4: a ticket into a contest that you don't feel like
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  Speaker 4: you have an edgine?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think for me, it's you definitely try to
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  Speaker 2: get more or I could always buy more if I
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  Speaker 2: wanted to, but I don't typically and you know, usually
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  Speaker 2: it goes a little bit better. This has been a
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  Speaker 2: rough outing. I looked, I'm down a few hundred dollars
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  Speaker 2: playing for these tickets and I only got one out
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  Speaker 2: of it typically, But i mean, look, you guys know
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  Speaker 2: how this goes, and you particularly know how this goes
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  Speaker 2: from the ticket streets. Those seconds were just number to them,
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  Speaker 2: like it doesn't even matter, or third or you know,
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  Speaker 2: seventh when the top six get one, like it's I
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  Speaker 2: have a bunch of those. So I could have easily
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  Speaker 2: had five to seven tickets. Last year I had five
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  Speaker 2: in it, so kind of that was the thought process
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  Speaker 2: going in. It doesn't always work out, but I'm very
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  Speaker 2: comfortable still playing it from that perspective. I think your
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  Speaker 2: your points and advice are definitely sound, and certainly for
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  Speaker 2: somebody just playing it, you know, off the you know
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  Speaker 2: the streets or what do you want to call it,
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  Speaker 2: like just jumping in to jump in. It's not always
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  Speaker 2: the best case, but I'll be more than fine just
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  Speaker 2: fading a ton of good stuff that other people are
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  Speaker 2: gonna love it that I'm just not going to go there,
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  Speaker 2: and I'll play it completely different because if not, you're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna give yourself really any opportunity. Anybody with max
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  Speaker 2: entries is gonna have whatever your your second best idea
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  Speaker 2: is is typically going to be covered still, as is
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  Speaker 2: your third, fourth, fifth. So not saying to get completely
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  Speaker 2: out of the you know, into the weeds, but definitely
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  Speaker 2: got to get different than what the rest of the
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  Speaker 2: competition is doing, and we'll talk about that on this
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  Speaker 2: very show. So listen, let's start here. Last week, I
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  Speaker 2: will say this, we did talk about this last week.
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  Speaker 2: We started with a game, and we're gonna do it
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  Speaker 2: again this week. We're gonna start with, of course, the
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  Speaker 2: Arizona at Sincy game. It's not often you've got the
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  Speaker 2: Bengals with a big total like this, over thirty implied
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  Speaker 2: team total at home. Joe Burrow, we saw what he
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  Speaker 2: did last week. But we did start with the Lions
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  Speaker 2: Pittsburgh game last week. And what's interesting about this week.
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  Speaker 2: So the Lions game, a lot of people were chasing,
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  Speaker 2: not necessarily it was still a good game, but people
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  Speaker 2: were chasing what they missed out on. Right. They didn't
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  Speaker 2: get too GoF Amen Ra and Jamison Williams to break
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  Speaker 2: the slate the week before, so there was like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: we can go back there now with Pittsburgh. It's a
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  Speaker 2: perfect setup. DK Mex has too cheap et cetera, et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: Usually when something like that, bus people aren't super high
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  Speaker 2: on it. But realistically, I think Alex at least what
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  Speaker 2: they're chasing is everybody missed out on Burrow throwing for
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  Speaker 2: four touchdowns and proving himself down. So now they're like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: and the McBride against Sincy stuff, and you just add
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  Speaker 2: it all together, it seems like the perfect storm. So
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  Speaker 2: what is your thoughts will start there with this Arizona
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  Speaker 2: since he game this definitely looks like on paper the
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  Speaker 2: place to be this week for only nine games, et cetera,
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  Speaker 2: et cetera. That you take it from there.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, so the the Detroit Pittsburgh game last week,
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  Speaker 4: it did have a somewhat clear path. The failing which
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  Speaker 4: was GoF gets pressured because GoF his pressure splits are
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  Speaker 4: among the most severe in the in the entire NFL,
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  Speaker 4: where like, when he's pressured, he's not good. When he
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  Speaker 4: isn't pressure he's great. Now, I kind of looked at
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  Speaker 4: that matchup last week and said, hey, there's no TJ.
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  Speaker 4: Watten thought the chance that he gets pressured all game
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  Speaker 4: are pretty low, but Pittsburgh ended up being able to
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  Speaker 4: do that, So it wasn't shocked to see that game fail.
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  Speaker 4: When I look at this Arizona Cincinnati game, there isn't
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  Speaker 4: a clear path to the game underwhelming, right, and so
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  Speaker 4: I don't necessarily want to play any of it. But
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  Speaker 4: I also don't know what fading this game looks like.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, it's just it's really really tough in
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  Speaker 4: that way. So I'm very much looking forward to talking
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  Speaker 4: through this one with you because I don't have a
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  Speaker 4: clear picture of if I'm fading this, how am I
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  Speaker 4: fading it?
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  Speaker 3: But also I don't have a clear picture of if
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  Speaker 3: I'm playing it, how am I playing it?
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  Speaker 4: Because Jamaar Chase is going to be like over forty
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  Speaker 4: percent owned, I think Chase Brown is now overpriced. That
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  Speaker 4: to me, like, if anyone's chasing any part of this game,
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  Speaker 4: it's any ownership that Chase Brown gets over seven thousand
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  Speaker 4: dollars and an almost fifty to fifty split with p
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  Speaker 4: Ryan is solely because he ran hot.
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  Speaker 3: On touchdowns last week. Otherwise there's no chance that he'd
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  Speaker 3: have this ownership.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's a really tough game to kind of
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  Speaker 4: think through and figure either how to play or how
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  Speaker 4: to fait.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think one of the things about this one,
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  Speaker 2: I liked your comment there, just around the setup of
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  Speaker 2: with last week's you could actually see a path of
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  Speaker 2: failure and this one you you you don't necessarily see
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  Speaker 2: it as easily. For example, you're like, well, I actually
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  Speaker 2: don't see how this would happen. So to me, what
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  Speaker 2: that says, and I agree with you one hundred percent,
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  Speaker 2: is that that's the possibility. But if you're if you
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  Speaker 2: were looking to be on it, it feels like you
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  Speaker 2: kind of got to be on it and then look
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  Speaker 2: for ways to get different, whether it's a super over
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  Speaker 2: game stack. But even then they'll start to pick up
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of steam. It probably has to be
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  Speaker 2: something with like a p Ryan or a Gaseki or
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  Speaker 2: a Yoshi vas or you know, double tight end with
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  Speaker 2: Gaseki and McBride or something along those lines. I think
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  Speaker 2: people will definitely still get there. But I think one
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  Speaker 2: of the things that you see in these high scoring games,
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  Speaker 2: and we've seen it in the past with Buffalo and
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  Speaker 2: since the games before, where they can still get there,
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  Speaker 2: which we are saying we still see happening, but it's
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  Speaker 2: so spread out or it's randomness of who gets it
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  Speaker 2: this that, And like last week, even people were so
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  Speaker 2: happy to be on Chase Brown until they realize you
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  Speaker 2: need to Chase Bread with his quarterback because three of
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  Speaker 2: them got thrown to the week before. Like etn Junior
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  Speaker 2: finally comes through no no tooting, and it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: but you need him. With Trevor Lawrence, it's like, so
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  Speaker 2: how often are people setting this up? Sometimes they're actually
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  Speaker 2: setting up to avoid that. So one thing for me
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  Speaker 2: is like, if I'm not in on this game, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, you tell me because you're usually the best
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  Speaker 2: at figuring this out. But like the Chase Jamar Chase
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  Speaker 2: with McBride secondary stack, I know there's a ton of
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  Speaker 2: different quarterbacks you can fit it with, right, you could
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  Speaker 2: get to some other quarterbacks on the slate and cheaper stacks,
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  Speaker 2: But how bad is that with the fact that if
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  Speaker 2: those two actually sealing out on this slate, that's pretty
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  Speaker 2: pretty well set up that you're gonna need Burrow or
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  Speaker 2: Brissette at that point, wouldn't you?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: One hundred percent like that to me.
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  Speaker 4: That's so it's kind of a great place to start here,
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  Speaker 4: is once again, as we've talked about kind of all season,
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  Speaker 4: you either should play the game or fade the game,
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  Speaker 4: not try and find the middle ground. And a lot
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  Speaker 4: of the time we've we've had this conversation this year,
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  Speaker 4: it's turned out that we should totally play it. Like
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  Speaker 4: two weeks ago, that Detroit game, you totally played it.
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  Speaker 4: You did really well. Last week we said the same
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  Speaker 4: thing about the Detroit Pittsburgh game, because what if you
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  Speaker 4: faded the game, or specifically if you used either game
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  Speaker 4: Well or Warren as a one off and just said,
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  Speaker 4: I want the game to fail because Pittsburgh actually controls
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  Speaker 4: things instead of Detroit, which then makes Pittsburgh more aggressive,
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  Speaker 4: and that's how the game goes off. Like that would
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  Speaker 4: have been spectacular. And so this this idea of fully
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  Speaker 4: embrace and games stack the crap out of it, or
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  Speaker 4: hope the game fails in a clear way like that,
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  Speaker 4: just it's so clearly been the way to go all season.
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  Speaker 4: And I think even though we don't see the path
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  Speaker 4: to failure this week, we should still take that same
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  Speaker 4: thought it. So maybe the answer is Michael Carter only
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  Speaker 4: and hope the Arizona defense actually slows down burrow a
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  Speaker 4: little bit, or if they give up production, it's as
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  Speaker 4: you said, like Yosibash or you know, Drew Sample, like
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  Speaker 4: those guys are scoring the touchdowns instead of Chase Higgins
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  Speaker 4: Chase Brown. And then you know you're getting the Michael
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  Speaker 4: Carter touched in on the ground instead ofsett throwing the ball.
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  Speaker 4: And now if Arizona actually has a lead, you're not
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  Speaker 4: getting the Brissette drop back, you know, forty seven pass
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  Speaker 4: attempt type game that that he's crushing in so often
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  Speaker 4: this year. So yeah, I think that's that's probably my
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  Speaker 4: lean is is playing the game in that way. But I,
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  Speaker 4: like I said, I don't I don't feel like super
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  Speaker 4: strongly about any part of this game.
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  Speaker 3: I just know it's likely to succeed.
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  Speaker 4: And there there isn't a clear story that I know
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  Speaker 4: I can tell for.
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  Speaker 3: How the game fails.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so a couple of things on that that I'll add.
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  Speaker 2: Just what you know, I love all those thoughts and
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  Speaker 2: the chats talking about a little bit is how many
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  Speaker 2: This is where people get it confused, because like, oh,
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  Speaker 2: everyone's just gonna overstack this game. But some of the
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  Speaker 2: names you mentioned, like the chat talked about Elijah Higgins,
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  Speaker 2: not just t. Higgins, what about Higgins Squared? What about
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  Speaker 2: the Drew Samples, the Yoshi Boss. That's where people, especially
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  Speaker 2: in single entry, will get scared, right, I'm not doing
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  Speaker 2: that's just too good. They'll say things like that's too
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  Speaker 2: aggressive or that's too You don't need to do that
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  Speaker 2: in single You need to do what you need to
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  Speaker 2: do in the end. Like if whatever the highest scores,
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  Speaker 2: remember there's gonna be someone playing single entry that isn't scared.
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  Speaker 2: And when you're saying scared money, don't make money like that,
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  Speaker 2: that's the thing. It's typically true. Somebody's gonna do it.
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  Speaker 2: And if they got you, they got you. Now I
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  Speaker 2: want to talk about it the other way because again
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  Speaker 2: not saying it's gonna happen again or all this, but
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  Speaker 2: I guess if you were truly believing in the Bengals,
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  Speaker 2: I guess you could take it from a perspective of
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  Speaker 2: last week. In the Detroit spot, we said, well, what
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  Speaker 2: if it is Gibbs getting these long touchdowns on the
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  Speaker 2: ground that would then take away and pull from others. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I don't think Chase Brown's gonna be under owned or
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  Speaker 2: over owned. I think it's gonna be somewhere you know,
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  Speaker 2: Goldilocks zone right there, just right in the middle. But
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  Speaker 2: I do think that that would have to be the thought, like,
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  Speaker 2: is it like a Chase Brown with a Bengals D.
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  Speaker 2: Is it and do something different that way? Is it
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  Speaker 2: a Higgins one off? And you're like, you know what,
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  Speaker 2: even though Higgins having the big game would probably be
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  Speaker 2: with Burrow, most those Higgins stacks are gonna be game stacks.
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  Speaker 2: And what if it is just Higgins has a eight
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  Speaker 2: for one oh five one game and he's like that
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  Speaker 2: I can get to Like on the other right, Cardinals
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  Speaker 2: defense ship. We just saw the Millionmaker, the twenty dollars
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  Speaker 2: million Maker. I know we talked single entry GPP focus,
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  Speaker 2: but the single the Millionmaker last week had Bowers gent
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  Speaker 2: and the Vegas dhere versus everyone was just on the
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  Speaker 2: Houston D at four k. It was like a complete
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  Speaker 2: way to flip it as I'm gonna take the D
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  Speaker 2: and two guys from that side with it, so anything
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  Speaker 2: can happen. It's a nine games slay. Do you have
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  Speaker 2: any other thoughts of what like or you you know,
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  Speaker 2: saying to the truth of what you've already said of
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  Speaker 2: like are you sticking to what you would always say,
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  Speaker 2: and just you're gonna avoid the game, because then you
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  Speaker 2: could just not play anything and hope that it spreads
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  Speaker 2: out or that you don't need what you need.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think, like the point that I'll read
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  Speaker 4: it rate, there is the script where this game goes
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  Speaker 4: the most nuclear is pretty clearly Cincinnati builds a lead,
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  Speaker 4: Arizona gets during garbage time. It's it's the same script
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  Speaker 4: that Arizona has hit in so many times since your
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  Speaker 4: Kobe Brissett took over. And so if you're hoping this
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  Speaker 4: game fails, I think you want it the other way around,
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  Speaker 4: where you want Arizona kind of controlling things. You want
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  Speaker 4: Arizona to control the ball to keep the Cincinnati offense
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  Speaker 4: off the field, but you also want them trying to
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  Speaker 4: slow things down offensively instead of trying to speak things
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  Speaker 4: up offensively. And so in that script, I do think
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  Speaker 4: it makes sense to play a fifty two hundred dollars
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  Speaker 4: Michael Carter, who did clearly have the lead last week,
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  Speaker 4: had eleven carries, looked decent running the ball, even had
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  Speaker 4: one explosive run. And we know how bad Cincinnati has
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  Speaker 4: been against running backs all season. They're boosting opponent and
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  Speaker 4: running back production by like eight Fantasy points per game,
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  Speaker 4: which is just a crazy high number. So I do
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  Speaker 4: think Carter is a good play, not just because he's
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  Speaker 4: actually a decent value this week of fifty two hundred dollars,
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  Speaker 4: which is not something I have said at any point
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  Speaker 4: this year about a Cardinal's running back since James Connor
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  Speaker 4: got hurt.
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  Speaker 3: But it actually is a good spot.
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  Speaker 4: But then you also get the benefit of the script
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  Speaker 4: in which he succeeds likely mutes the overall game environment
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  Speaker 4: compared to what.
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  Speaker 3: People are looking for.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, the chatous to about Samaj p Ryan in a blowout?
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  Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
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  Speaker 4: Uh? I I don't even like which direction are you
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  Speaker 4: hoping that p Ryan gets next to run from a blowout?
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  Speaker 4: And I don't I don't know that he'd get extra
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  Speaker 4: carries in a blowout, you know, might be touched Brooks
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  Speaker 4: at that point.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not really interested in p Ryan.
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  Speaker 4: I think the way you use p Ryan honestly, like
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  Speaker 4: might be just a total overstack of this game, where
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  Speaker 4: you were hoping that he gets two touchdowns, one receiving,
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  Speaker 4: one rushing, And it's because Cincinnati scored like forty some
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  Speaker 4: points and the touchdowns had to come somewhere, and there's
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  Speaker 4: just only so many ways that you can allocate all
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  Speaker 4: those touchdowns.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe he runs hot this week instead of Chase Brown.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna say. I'd actually rather it
• 14:54
  Speaker 2: in like a Burrow Carter p Ryan original set up
• 14:58
  Speaker 2: to make cheap plays within the game, boost it up,
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: and then get those other guys fit in by those
• 15:03
  Speaker 2: and hope that it is like a back and forth.
• 15:05
  Speaker 2: That that's how I would build that, or something like.
• 15:08
  Speaker 4: Burrow Chase McBride and then Pete Ryan. And now you're saying, Okay,
• 15:13
  Speaker 4: I'm using the most expensive combination possible from this step,
• 15:18
  Speaker 4: but then I'm actually turning it into a little bit
• 15:20
  Speaker 4: more affordable because I'm using a forty four hundred dollars
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: running back whatever Pe Ryan is. So I think, yeah,
• 15:25
  Speaker 4: I think that's the only way that I consider using
• 15:28
  Speaker 4: p Ryan.
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: But it does seem like a decent way to do.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Now, I got one more thing I want to talk about,
• 15:32
  Speaker 2: but before I do, that relates to this game, but
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: one still within this game. I want to talk about
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: the others more from a DFS perspective, but just within
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: this game. What about flipping the build to the Brissette
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: side and any thoughts on like if it is the
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: McBride two touchdown game, that's already two for Brissette. Now
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: you got to pick in who do you want to
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: have with them? But what about like Brissette Carter one
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: of Michael Wilson Marv Harrison with Trey McBride and then
• 15:55
  Speaker 2: a T. Higgins on the other side or something like that,
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: and do it differently in that sense? You could you
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: see that?
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: So the only issue that I have with this is
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: I don't think, like usually when we say flip the build,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: we're talking about something that really makes ownership. You know,
• 16:12
  Speaker 4: we're talking about a much much lower owned side of
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: the game. And I don't think you're totally getting that. Here.
• 16:17
  Speaker 4: We have Burrow projected at twenty percent in single entries,
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: ten percent per perset, so like there is a meaningful
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: difference there. We're talking about fifty percent the ownership the
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: other guy. But if you're using percent, you've got to
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: use trade McBride, right, and we've got Trade McBride at
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: twenty four percent, So how much are you saving in
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: that regard? I think the only way you do this
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: is if you felt really confident about either Michael Wilson
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: or Marvin Harrison Junior. The problem is number one, I
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: don't feel confident about either of them because the roles
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: are really murky. I've seen some people make the point
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: that last week it was the first time that Michael
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: Wilson stayed in kind of the lead dog role with
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: Harrison on the field, but Harrison was limited, So Harrison
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: isn't limited this week. I'm not one hundred percent sure
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: that it's going to be the same story. So there's
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: that aspect of it. But then also Cincinnati, as bad
• 17:07
  Speaker 4: as they have been against running backs and tight end,
• 17:10
  Speaker 4: so let me bring up the actual data here.
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: They've been pretty good against wide receivers.
• 17:14
  Speaker 4: So they're boosting opponent running back production by six point
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: seven fantasy points per game, opponent tight end production by
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: eight point three fantasy points per game, which continues to
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: be like a historically high number for any position, let
• 17:26
  Speaker 4: alone the tight end. They are hurting wide receiver one
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: and wide receiver two production by three point six and
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: two point three fantasy.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Points per game respectively on the year.
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: That's using our DBOA adjusted fantasy points against data over
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: at FTN. So if you do have conviction on Michael
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: Wilson or Marvin and Arrison Junior. I would have to
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: ask why because the matchup's not good and you know,
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: the role is just so unserved for both.
• 17:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well see it sounds like he's I think Marv
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Harrison's going to play anyway, like I think you know
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: that the way it seems no setbacks or anything that
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: you know, it seems like this will be full versus
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: last week, like I said, could have still been a
• 18:02
  Speaker 2: little bit limited, depending and we have ownership projections, so
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: we already know this stuff. It's not gonna be more owned.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be the Burrow side and Chase and then
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: McBride and whatever. And you know, like you said, I
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: think one of the more interesting things, at least if
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: you're doing that is and it's not ideal from the
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: data standpoint, but to the point of Wilson and Harrison
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: just aren't gonna get the ownership as much like most
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: people are gonna go Burrow, Chase McBride and then see
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: what else they can fit in. It's not saying they'll
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: always fit in Higgins, but they're gonna see, Okay, is
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: it Chase Brown, is it t Higgins. Is it Yoshi
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: Boss on the other side, is it Michael Carter or whatever,
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: and try and get a game stack that way. I
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: don't think those Arizona. I think of all the players
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: in this game, Giseki and the two receivers stay lower.
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: What do you see on Michael Carter right now in
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: single entry? Because I could see it coming up a
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: little bit. The more we get to what makes this
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: game stack work, it feels like people feel comfortable about him,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: and I see him getting mentioned a lot as well
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: with that matchup. What's your thoughts there?
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we've gone on at thirteen percent, and I think
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: I'm on the higher side of the industry, but it
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: wouldn't surprise me if he did take off a little bit.
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: There are a couple guys that I kind of feel
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: that way. We're like, there's a large difference between what
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: I was expecting to see and what I currently am
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: seeing in the ownership front where it you know, there's
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: a there's a very good chance where especially you know,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: there's we're not the only ones doing a show today,
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: so shows around the industry today, if they all say, hey,
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: why is this guy under ten percent?
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: There's a good chance that guy becomes twenty or twenty
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: five percent.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Michael Carter is one of those where he's right now again,
• 19:36
  Speaker 4: we've got him at thirteen. I think my numbers actually
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: spit out something like eight or nine percent for him,
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: and I just manually boosted it up because I don't
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: think it could possibly be that low. But also the
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: same with him, like I want to be surprised if
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: it got to twenty twenty five just because he's he's
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: a very clear way to play the favorite game in
• 19:56
  Speaker 4: a bit of a contrarian way, especially if ownership project
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: and are in the industry say that he's going to
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: be really contrariant if he was you know, if everyone
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: looked at his ownership projection and saw twenty five percent,
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: people say, oh, I don't want to play at twenty
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: five percent like Carter. But if twenty five percent of
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: the field thinks that Michael Carter is a good play
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: at eight percent and that's the ownership projective they're looking at,
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: then he has a chance to get.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: To twenty twenty five percent something like that. So we'll see.
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: But you know, that's that's kind of you know, one
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: of my one of my favorite things to do leading
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: up to Sundays is kind of reading the key leaves
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: on ownership.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: In this way, that's the contest sims in a nutshell.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: You know, the year of twenty twenty four leading into
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: this current year of twenty twenty five, almost to twenty
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: twenty six, how much the contest sims have changed it
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: where it's like, oh, this sims say it's good, I
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: got to play it now, and everyone jumps on it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 2: And then the numbers you were going up against that
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: made it good were like, actually way off and you
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: were using bad numbers. So the key is having good ownership.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: But two things then now you got me on that
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: are DEFs related, but not this one. You've probably heard
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: me talk about it in the past. And the PGA realm,
• 20:55
  Speaker 2: which is the lazy weeks. You can't ask for a
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: more lazy week in the NFL. Then Week seventeen, the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: week before the you know, sort of the end of
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: the season. Week eighteen, just that lull before the playoffs.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: All that but happens to happen during most you know
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: a lot of people celebrating Christmas Week and the holidays
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: of some kind throughout this season with friends and family
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: and drinks and fun and all these different things where
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: they just, y know, what does this show say, all right,
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that and you know, or what is
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: the ownerships? I'm gonna do that or go against that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: So it's kind of a setup where I do see
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: this staying really popular, and we'll talk in a little
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: bit about how to leverage the common Bill. But I
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: think that was some good points we made there. The
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: other thing I'll bring up quickly, the second one I
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: was gonna hit on earlier Alex, was the Slate Dynamics
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: as a whole. Like, if you're on Chase and McBride,
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I get it, but you're also you should be on
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: this game. Then when you're doing that, I know there's
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: only eight other games and it's not an eleven or
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: twelve or a thirteen gamer, but there is massive pieces
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: you're leaving on the table. Now, you're not really likely
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: to get to those two plus JSN. I'm not saying
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: you can't. I get people to understand. I can understand
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: the math. I'm just telling you most people with those
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: two in their lineup are leaving out JSN, are leaving
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: out a Chan are leaving out Jonathan Taylor, right, there.
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: There is definitely some other big boy options Barkley, James Cook,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: et Jr. Wherever you want to go with it. They're
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: not leaving out gent I'll tell you that much. We'll
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: get there in a second. That's part of another conversation,
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: but just a thought around, like that's where we're going
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: to be going. I think when we get there, right,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: is this the thought of, like you know right away,
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: most of those builds are on a game stack and
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: they're not able to get to a lot of these
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: other quote unquote studs on the slate that definitely could
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: have slate breaking potential, and that's what would leave something
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: like this in the dust. Even if this doesn't fail
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: like your point earlier, but it just is good and
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: it's not great or phenomenal or needed, you know what
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: I mean.
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So, I think one of the really kind of
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: key points to understand about the slate and and how
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: compareson how it differs more specifically to a lot of
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: the slates this year is the kind of the theme
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: of the season, if you will, has been kind of
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: a return to paying up at running back instead of
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: wide receiver and tight end.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: And of course there have.
• 23:04
  Speaker 4: Been exceptions that rule, like Puka has been mega chalk
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: sometimes this year, Saint Brown has been super choky, Jamar
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Chase has been super chocky, even JSN at times this year.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: So it's not like we've never had people paying up
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: for wide receiver.
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: But the reason why we've got Jamar Chase this week
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: projected for over forty percent and McBride pushing twenty five
• 23:25
  Speaker 4: even though he's you know, at a price where so
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: far this year, whenever McBride has been this expensive or
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: more expensive, he's been like eight percent ten percent at
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: the most.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Now we've got them projected around twenty five percent.
• 23:35
  Speaker 4: Is because we have Bijon, CMC, Jamior Gibbs all off
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: of the main slate, and those have been the three
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: guys that people are so determined to pay up for.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: So the fact that they're off the slate is opening
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: up the potential for people to say, Okay, this week,
• 23:51
  Speaker 4: I'm going to prioritize spending money on my stack or
• 23:54
  Speaker 4: on these one off wide receivers and tight ends who
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: are all the way at the top of the board
• 23:58
  Speaker 4: instead of paying up for.
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: The expensive back. And that just makes it a very.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: Different slate dynamic than a lot of the weeks that
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: we've played recently.
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, agreed, and that's why. That's why I think that,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: you know, the standard's gonna come in a little bit
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: when we get there now, sticking with just the common
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: build and the ownership and where we're seeing it now.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: You already talked about it with Burrow, you know, he
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: talked about it with that game stack. We just mentioned it,
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: so might as well go there. Next is the It's
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: it's kind of a twofold, I guess is you know
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: it's the Raiders versus the Giants. I know there's talks
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: about like the Max Crosby pissed off because they're wanting
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: to hold him out for the last two games now,
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: And I talked tout last week. I thought it was
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: incredible when the reporter tried to ask him about the
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: playing for the number one pick and he's like, you're
• 24:36
  Speaker 2: don't ask me that. He's like, I'm trying to be
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: the best defensive end in the league. I don't give
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: a shit. I'm playing and I'm smashing these dudes. And
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, the management ownership is like,
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: actually you might not be playing buddy, We're we're gonna
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: decide that, and he's pissed off about that, I guess,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: But jenty at sixty one hundred huge week last week, right,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: so of course he he's gonna be popular this week.
• 24:55
  Speaker 2: And then you got Bowers moved to the IR previous
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: to that, so it's like you got the Michael Meyer
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: experience again. It's not Halloween any longer, but you know,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: it's a different holiday, but twenty five hundred bucks, you've
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: got Michael Meyer down there. And then I don't know
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: if people love the other side, but people always seem
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: to want to play a little bit of Robinson, right,
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: they're fine with it, and maybe even Tyrone Tracy Junior
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: because of the way it's been for the Giants. So
• 25:18
  Speaker 2: I guess that's the best place to go next. But
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: what's your thoughts on this stack or this setup and
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: using these guys as pieces to make everything else work.
• 25:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so let's start with the gent chalk because it's
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: going to be massive, and particularly it's going to be
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: massive if Trevion Henderson does play for New England, because
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: what what we were initially projecting was like forty five
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: percent gent forty five percent Romandre Stevenson. If we don't
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: get the Stevenson chalk because Treviuon's back, it might be
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: like sixty percent Gent and then no one else at
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: the at the running back position come anywhere close to him.
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: So there are a couple of things here, and I
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: should I should shout out I wish I remember which
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: subscriber for my discord actually made this point. But they
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: shut down Bowers because they don't want to win this game.
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: They shut down Crosby because they don't want to win
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: this game. Are we sure that they're just going to
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: for speed Gent all game and let you know, they're
• 26:15
  Speaker 4: now best offensive player who's active, just have this like
• 26:19
  Speaker 4: full role, and especially if they're leading, are they going
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: to let him kind of go get them a win?
• 26:24
  Speaker 4: I don't know what the answer to that question is,
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: So it is, you know, a bit of uncertainty in
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: that regard. But more importantly, I think the matchup with
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: the Giants is phenomenal and it's especially good for explosive runs.
• 26:37
  Speaker 4: But we are still talking about a guy who has two,
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: just two twenty plus yard runs on the season.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: Should we be sixty.
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: Percent owned confident in a guy who only has two
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: explosive plays all season? In the run game, and you
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: know in the passing game, it's similar. He had a
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: stretch of three consecutive games with eight targets in November,
• 27:01
  Speaker 4: but he only hit two targets last week. The fact
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: that one of them was a sixty hour touchdown is
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: really affecting that ownership a lot more than I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: it should. So I am kind of the opinion that
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: Genti is kind of a you know, a pretty clear
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: picture now where he is a really boom er bust
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: guy and he's super dependent on these explosive plays that
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: he's very capable of producing, but is not going to
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: produce them at a high rate. So when he's six
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: percent on whatever he was last week, he's a very
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: good play. When he's sixty percent on like he is
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: this week, he's probably not a good play by any
• 27:38
  Speaker 4: stretch of the imagination.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we have him at one of our highest optimal
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: rates I've seen all season on the stone over at
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: triber Nation, But it's like also one of the most
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: negative leverage standpoints because the ownership and then you take
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that to single entry and it goes even further. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: I always talk about this, like when it's such a
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: high optimal rate. I get it, and we know why
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: that is. But when there's talking points around it and
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: to your point, we'll spend some more time on this
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: when we get to the secondmentbut ways to leverage it.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: But just of note, it's it's we've seen it was
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: earlier this season. Everyone will say, oh, like Miami's so
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: bad against the run. It was Bijon and then there
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: was a late scratch of Drake London And it doesn't
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: matter how bad the other defenses. Sometimes if they just say, listen,
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: we're gonna make quarterback Geno Smith throw the ball to
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Trey Tucker, Jack Besh and Tyler Lockett from twenty sixteen
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: with Michael Meyer and just see what happens. And then
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: the Narraiders say it's not going so well early on.
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: Now we can kind of wave that flag a little
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: bit and try and go after this pick and do whatever.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying it will happen. But everything that people
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: are automatically adding to it, it's already all baked in. So
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: the only thing that happens after it's baked in. Another
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: common theme we've talked about all season. The only thing
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: that happens that's important in DFS is if it's already
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: all baked into the projection and of the points, then
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: all that can happen now is the ownership can get
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: out of control. And that's when we're making the case.
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Now again, he's he's the he's the way he is
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: for a reason. It's you know, people are playing him
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: for the reason. We're making a case. And we'll get
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: to that in segment number two. If you wanted to
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: be off of him and why, there's definite reason to it.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: But that's just a key talking point. Let's instead of
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: going to that route because we're not there yet finishing
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: this out for the common build, what about Michael Meyer?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: Do you think it's a double tight end common build
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: to make that original game stack work where it's those
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: two as a combo pack. Then you get your McBride
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: and you're chasing there and pick your burrow go from there, Like, well,
• 29:28
  Speaker 2: what's your sort of thoughts on that?
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I definitely think Meyer is going to
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: be popular. One thing I'll say this also of course
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: relates to genty, is we should remember that this is
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: a four o'clock game. There are only two four o'clock
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: games this week, so you're going to have a ton
• 29:42
  Speaker 4: of information from the early games to determine whether you
• 29:45
  Speaker 4: can and should use the chalk gent or whether you
• 29:47
  Speaker 4: need to get different at that point in time. So
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: that will number one, like mean that we can still
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: play him even though he's this popular if we if
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: we do think that he's a high probability play.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: But it also means.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: That's that's a chunk of the field who otherwise wouldn't
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: have played him, that will now play him because they
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: feel like they have the license to because they have
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: the Lakeswap option with him. So that could also make
• 30:14
  Speaker 4: him even more popular than he would already have been.
• 30:17
  Speaker 4: So it's yeah, it's it's another tough decision. It's definitely
• 30:20
  Speaker 4: not an easy slate here in week seventeen.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I want to say about that at least,
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: and I know we haven't fully got there on a
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: round it out just and then we'll get there, you know,
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: to the talking about leveraging the common build. But just
• 30:31
  Speaker 2: one thing about that is the two game factor. I'm
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: glad you brought that up because you look, if you're
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: on the Cinci Arizona game and it busts and you
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: got gent left like, yeah, definitely a bad spot to
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: be at that point, because like you're just collecting. I mean,
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: you don't really have much else you'll you should swap it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: And I'm sure that you can literally just put in
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: Tracy Junior at way let's ownership and to see what happens.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: So it's not about that to me as much as
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: the opposite effect. I actually am again we're close to
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: that anyway now, Alex. But I will say this, I
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: really don't care about his projection as much to say that,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: Like if I was golden in the morning, I'm actually
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: not positive I would flip things around to get to
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: gentee on. I mean, obviously there's the blocker effect. I'm
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: just saying I'm not as high on the spot as
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: other situational stuff. It depends on the build, of course.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: I'm just talking about from one shot, you know, the
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: deal looking at it, like we talked about earlier, I'm
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: not one hundred percent sure I would over extend, at
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: least as a better way to put it to get
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: myself there. If I had tons of flex flexibility, I
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: would probably do it, yes, But I'm saying from everything
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: you mentioned, I'm not certain that would be the case
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: like if I had a Barkley lineup or a Cook
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: lineup that I already liked, I actually might stand on that.
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: And yes, they're projected better anyway, but I mean more
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: of with two plays left, I look at the Gent version,
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: but I might hold pat on what I got with
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: Cook and somebody else, like a Cook Tucker versus moving
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: it to a genty something else. I would probably still
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: hold it just because that's just a piece I'll give
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: you that I'm doing. It's you don't have to do that,
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: It's just what I'm thinking about right now.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: Or it could be like you know, Barkley and Meyer
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: versus Gent and Goddard something like.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: That, right, yeah, I might.
• 32:06
  Speaker 4: I think I think one other point that I'll make here,
• 32:10
  Speaker 4: and this is already kind of getting into leveraging the
• 32:12
  Speaker 4: common build, but if I had if I had Gent,
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: I think the only way that I would do it, well,
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: I should start by saying what most people I think
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: will do is they'll have Gent and then if they
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: need to pivot, they'll pivot to Tyrone Tracy just in
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: the same game, saying okay, well, what if it's the
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: giants who end up running all over them instead things
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: of that nature. What I would rather do is I'd
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: rather have Gent in the flex so that my pivot
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: could be to DeVante Smith instead of Tyrone Tracy, because
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: if you're using Tracy, like what is his ceiling twenty two,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: twenty three, twenty four, something like that, whereas we've seen
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: DeVante Smith go for thirty five plus, So if I
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: had to make it a swap late, I would much
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: prefer to be swapping to Davante then to Tyrone Tracy.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and someone brings it up here, I mean definitely.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: You know in cash, people you're playing GENTI like, that's
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: just what people are doing, and do what you want.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like it's clearly a cash lock for
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: anybody looking at cash lineups and things like that. That's
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: what going to be for most people playing cash at
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: the highest level, Jent, He's going to be a lock
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: in that. We're talking more from a single entry GPP perspective,
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: and even Alex's point there, which I just want to
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: round out the common build first, but I'll say two
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: for two seconds is like that might not be possible
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: for people in a certain instance or way because if
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: they do have McBride with Meyer on top of genty,
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: it's like, clearly they're flexes and now they can still
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: find ways to flip it around. Maybe they've got an
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: extra piece in there that can make the move. But
• 33:32
  Speaker 2: I'm just noting it is like it's not always gonna
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: be possible for people with the common build. Is there
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: anything else about the common build that you want to
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: hit on here that I'm sort of missing forgetting or
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: anything else you're seeing that stands out that we want
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: to make sure we fit into this segment before we
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: move on.
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's also worth noting that we we've
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: got a ton of ownership on Jacksonville as well, so
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: like we're actually projecting Lawrence to be more popular than
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: Joe Burrow, and we have Jacobe Meyer at like thirty
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: five percent in single entries, so there's going to be
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: a lot of ownership there. And then I think the
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: only other thing that I would say is despite that,
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: despite the fact that we do have two really really
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: popular quarterbacks for ones, like we still have Prissette May
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: Chuck and Dart all over seven percent as well, all
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: theoretically could be at least ten percent, So it's simultaneously
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: a little bit spread out and really concerned in those
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: two offenses. But maybe even the more important point is
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: it's not necessarily the quarterbacks, but we could also see,
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: you know, major chalk from the Patriots wide receivers given
• 34:40
  Speaker 4: the injuries, where Diggs and Kyle Williams might end up
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: really popular. Hunter Henry is probably going to be really popular.
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: We could see Chris Olave and Juwan Johnson be really popular.
• 34:50
  Speaker 4: So there are kind of a lot of options, a
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: lot of chalky options that we're choosing from, particularly among
• 34:58
  Speaker 4: past catchers this week.
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll get there for sure. I think my takeaway
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: would just be like, how do you want to integrate
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: the conversation of the Jacksonville stuff, because super important to
• 35:07
  Speaker 2: touch on. I definitely think there's a couple of hilarious
• 35:11
  Speaker 2: outcomes on this slate, and one would certainly be the
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: gent piece that we mentioned, like, of course last week
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: he has that big game, so now it comes back
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: to it. But the most hilarious to me would be
• 35:21
  Speaker 2: if Trevor Lawrence, you know, he had those four good
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: weeks then everyone said, oh he's finally facing a real
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: team against Denver. There's no way he's gonna have a
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: big game, he goes out and does it against Denver. Well, now,
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: how wouldn't he do it against Indy? And that would
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: be the most hilarious outcome is when he doesn't do
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: it against Indy when it's like that would be one
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: that you think would be the most common, but I
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: don't know, like the most possible now at this point
• 35:42
  Speaker 2: after everything you've seen from him. But we'll get that.
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: But is there any other way you want to integrate that, Like,
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: do you do you actually think there's a chance people
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: could go something like I don't know if this even
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: fully fits, but like Lawrence Jacobi Meyers with Michael Meyer,
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: Jamar Chase McBride, gent, is that kind of the setup
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: you could see where people land on that even more
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: than the Borough version.
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that.
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: I can also see people double stacking him either with ETN.
• 36:12
  Speaker 4: Since ETN just put three touchdowns from few games ago
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: to still so insane, Breton Strange is going to get
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: some ownership to the tight end position. But I think
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: the main way to integrate this into the conversation of
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: what is the common build is just understanding that because
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: there are so many Chalky pass catching options. Because there
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: are so many quarterbacks that people can go to, we
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: are going to see a bit more at diversity in
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: just the overall like build structure, which also is true
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: because again going back to the original point of this,
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: the stud running backs just aren't as appealing this week
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: as they've been most weeks this season when Jean McCaffrey
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: and Gibbs have been parts of slates, which again is
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: going to give people. It's freeing people up to build
• 36:56
  Speaker 4: in whatever way they want instead of feeling like, Okay,
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I've got to find a way to get these expensive
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: running backs, which has given us more predictable builds throughout you.
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another thing too, Aaron Smith brings up, is that, yeah,
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Jackson Indian a dome with a lot of other winter
• 37:09
  Speaker 2: weather spots, and even like the Philly Buffalo game, which
• 37:12
  Speaker 2: we didn't talk a ton about, that's a very low
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: total for those two teams going up against each other.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: But you know, Philly as good as most, you know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: more than most, I should say, as good as anybody.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: But look behind you with the helmet there is like
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: just thinking about the spot of that. They just like
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: to run the ball and throw short chop throws over
• 37:28
  Speaker 2: the middle. It's like that just shuts the clock down
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: pretty quickly and moves fast. And obviously Buffalo contend to
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: do the same, especially when they get into these colder
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: weather games. Just Alan Cook whatever else these short throws
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: are and capassit to along and move it. But one
• 37:40
  Speaker 2: thing I will say about the Jackson Indy though, is
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: if you go like Lawrence Jacoby, Strange, whatever, I feel
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: like it's going to be more Jamar Chase being left
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: out because it's I think then people could move to
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor, but they might still want McBride in there
• 37:56
  Speaker 2: or something along those lines. And if they had gent
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: maybe it's Strange instead of Meyer. But they can get
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: down a little bit from Brown or sorry, from Jamar
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: Chase to Taylor and make that work within a game
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: stack there. So I do think that's somewhat interesting. But
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: I don't know if that's like, I don't know, do
• 38:11
  Speaker 2: you think it's like really is it going to leverage
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: the common build or is it going to feel like
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: that's kind of just the secondary version of it.
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: So I wouldn't say that I think that Chase can
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: get left out of builds like that because I think
• 38:23
  Speaker 4: One of the kind of themes that we've seen this
• 38:25
  Speaker 4: season is when people pay up all the way up
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: for a receiver or tight end in McBride's case, they
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: are a little bit more hesitant to double stack and
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: and like they look then obviously makes sense to some degree,
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: right Like if Chase has one of his twelve for
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: two hundred and two games, it's going to be hard
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: for anyone else on Cincinnati to get there. So it's
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: not that it doesn't make at least some sense. But
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: the decision that people have so often made this year
• 38:59
  Speaker 4: in that kind of scene situation is Okay, if I'm
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: not going to double stack it, I might as well
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: just mini stack this and then go find a cheap
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: double stack that helps me fit that. And again, like
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: in theory, that makes sense, but when so many people
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: are doing that, it becomes really bad because now you're
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: threading this really the needle.
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: So I think that.
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: That's the primary mistake that people are going to make
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: on this late is trying to find mini stacks, particularly
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: like the McBride and Chase mini stack.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: And I think we're going to see that all over
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: the place.
• 39:33
  Speaker 4: So I don't think there are going to be many
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: builds that use McBride, but then say, Okay, I guess
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: I can't get to Chase here because I think so
• 39:40
  Speaker 4: many builds are going to actually start with that mini
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: stack and then figure out what they do around it.
• 39:45
  Speaker 2: Well, the more I think about it out loud, actually
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: is you know, now I think what could happen to
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: your point way back when when we first started talking
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: about this, since the Bengals or the since Arizona game,
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: is I actually think we're going to see more Michael
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Carter's steam because now that about it, it'd be like, Okay,
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: strange fits the tight end. So let's say they go
• 40:03
  Speaker 2: with Lawrence one of those three, if not two of Meyers,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: Thomas Junior and Washington after the big game range. Now
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: it's Jonathan Taylor. Now it's Genty. Well, it's like they
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: could actually just do Michael Carter and land on one
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: of the Sinci guys and maybe it's Chase that fits
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: it or something like that, and then you have Chase
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: and Taylor because people have seen Chase have big games
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: too where it's like he's not even the primary focus
• 40:26
  Speaker 2: of like three touchdowns or something, but it's like he
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: still gets twelve targets, So I actually think and I
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: didn't look if it fits, but I think you could
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: see something like that as well, where people still feel
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: like they're covering the angle. So it just makes me
• 40:36
  Speaker 2: think to round out thoughts on the common build, it
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: makes me think that Michael Carter could get steamed a
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: little bit more because he still fits both versions of
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the build, the game stack build to make it all work,
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: or the builds with like Trevor Lawrence or whoever else.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Is there anything else you want to touch on? There
• 40:52
  Speaker 2: a defense or anything else to see what the common build?
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: If not, let's move right to how we're gonna leverage
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: this in other angles we can attack from.
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's move on.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Okay, I see currently just a note, I see Steelers
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: Browns both those defenses, and then it looks like Patriots
• 41:09
  Speaker 2: if people are paying up, is that kind of what
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: you got? Yeah?
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: So yeah, and I think let's see yeah, Steelers Patriots.
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: I also think the Giants could end up a lot
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: more popular than people are expecting, just because if you
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: don't have gente, it makes so much sense to use
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: the Giants, and there aren't you know, any other like
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: good options under three thousand dollars, so they could end
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: up being a lot more popular just because the sims
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: are gonna like them.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Maybe play your Eagles under three thousand dollars, that could
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: be a way to do it this week twenty six.
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: I think they're a really good option, And actually they
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: could end up steaming because right now Roth is saying
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: that there's going to be heavy rain in that Philly game,
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: So if it's gonna get sloppy, then then people could
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: end up playing either defense from that game.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have no but I mean, I don't know
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: if they could get steamed enough. We'll see. But at
• 41:54
  Speaker 2: twenty six hundred, I think they're a fine option download.
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: So what you haven't.
• 41:59
  Speaker 4: Seen a defense do really well against Buffalo, Like Houston
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: in that standalone game had like eight sacks against him
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: or something like that, So it's definitely possible.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Jalen Carter also back for Philly.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, good call on that as well. For sure. That's
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: interesting too about the James Cook theory in this one,
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: because obviously Philly, you know, showing up a little bit
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: bad against the run, but it's like when you're missing
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: your main dude for a lot of those games, it
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't help you either, so certainly something like that. Okay,
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: let's move to the second part. Then we kind of
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: got the common build figured out now, and I think
• 42:27
  Speaker 2: most figured that part of it. It's gonna be more
• 42:30
  Speaker 2: exciting to go through this next twenty minutes or so.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: But just to note the Patriots factor, I mean, I
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: not that I wanted to start there, but you know,
• 42:38
  Speaker 2: someone talking about it again about the again, I guess
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: we got to wait and see. But with Henderson questionable,
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: Like I don't know, the Patriots feels like what the
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: Raiders are doing and it's just they're actually gonna do it.
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna it seems like they could leave Henderson
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: out here. Will have to wait and see, but it
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: seems like they could end up going without him. But
• 42:55
  Speaker 2: maybe not. But I think the only motivation for them
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: is like Drake may MVP right is to come out
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: and the sea that way, Yeah, lock that MVP down
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: And obviously having a team like the Jets to go
• 43:05
  Speaker 2: up against certainly a good spot. But any thoughts on
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: that one? And then where do you want to go
• 43:08
  Speaker 2: with leveraging common build first? Because I know the chat
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: talked earlier about Geno stacks with you know, moving off
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: gent is that the first place you want to go.
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: But let me hear your Patriots thoughts quick, we can
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: tie these in.
• 43:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look like they're still live for the
• 43:22
  Speaker 4: one seed, but it should be such an easy win
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: against the Jets that like they they might you know,
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: shut things down and put the backups in late in
• 43:30
  Speaker 4: the third quarter or something like that in this one.
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's gonna be hard for them to play
• 43:35
  Speaker 4: the ceiling. The other thing I don't like is one
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: of my first thoughts of how to play this slate
• 43:40
  Speaker 4: was like a Drake may double with Adam I Mitchell
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: as to bring back the problem is that Patriots have
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: been so good at preventing explosive.
• 43:47
  Speaker 3: Passes that.
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: You know, my favorite actually, well, one of my favorite
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: props of the week over our underdog is under twenty
• 43:56
  Speaker 4: nine and a half long as completion for Cook because
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: they don't throw explosive passes and the Patriots don't allow
• 44:03
  Speaker 4: explosive passes.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: So I just really really like that one.
• 44:06
  Speaker 4: But that means that Adam and I Mitchell has a
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: much much more difficult path to getting there, and it's
• 44:11
  Speaker 4: a lot harder for the Jets too. You know Fluke
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: into a long touchdown that now does push New England
• 44:17
  Speaker 4: a little bit, so that sack just I think what
• 44:21
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna end up doing is if I if I
• 44:23
  Speaker 4: play a Patriot, it's going to be a one off
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: fide receiver, most likely either Digs or Kyle Williams.
• 44:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kyle Williams is a one off at thirty three hundred.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: It seems pretty fine. Like he seems fine on this
• 44:32
  Speaker 2: late because I know what people say, wouldn't you want
• 44:34
  Speaker 2: to pair him up? Not necessarily? And I don't see
• 44:36
  Speaker 2: him getting any crazy steam. So it's like if he
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: is the one piece, if you think the Patriots are
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: going to do something with him, and they have injuries already,
• 44:43
  Speaker 2: and he's cheap enough that he doesn't quite kill you,
• 44:45
  Speaker 2: and if he has a big game it could be meaningful.
• 44:46
  Speaker 2: Because he's not going to be very high owned. I
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: think that's where I'd be more comfortable going. Digs is
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: fifty eight hundred. It's not like he's expensive, so I
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: think he's fine as well. But to your point, either
• 44:55
  Speaker 2: of those two would make a little bit more sense.
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: Now if Henderson was out, how much ownership think goes
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: to somebody else like you know, Stevenson or something like that.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: What do you sort of see happening there?
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: If that's the key, Yes, Stevenson would be massive chalk.
• 45:07
  Speaker 4: I think there's even a chance that he'd end up
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: more popular than Gentee, and I think that he would
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: largely largely deserve that ownership. So I don't even know
• 45:16
  Speaker 4: if I would fade it. But hopefully we don't have
• 45:20
  Speaker 4: to make that decision, and hopefully that's just kind of
• 45:22
  Speaker 4: a wash, because I've already you know, I just this morning,
• 45:26
  Speaker 4: I already did an entire run through the ownership projections,
• 45:29
  Speaker 4: taking ownerships from Stevenson and figuring out where to dish
• 45:32
  Speaker 4: that out.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: I don't want to have to reverse that way.
• 45:36
  Speaker 2: To such as the life right. But somebody mentioned about
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: the other side on the Jets one like again, another
• 45:43
  Speaker 2: hilarious piece would just be Jeremy Ruckert same price as Meyer.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: They actually just paid him, I know, which sounds crazy,
• 45:50
  Speaker 2: but they did just give him a contract. And now
• 45:53
  Speaker 2: Mason Taylor out. It's like, if you know they're missing
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: linebackers for the Patriots, could be a garbage time whatever,
• 45:58
  Speaker 2: but at twenty five hundred, you could do worse and
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: just noting it. Obviously he's not going to project like
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: Michael Meyer, but you know, I could see that happening
• 46:05
  Speaker 2: at twenty five hundred. Not something I'm super thrilled about,
• 46:07
  Speaker 2: but just a note. All right, let's start with the
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Geno conversation, because I think if you know, if everyone
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: says the same and to your point and all that,
• 46:14
  Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything crazy about having this conversation
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: with the fact that jenty could get to fifty sixty
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: percent even in these single entries that we're talking about.
• 46:22
  Speaker 2: So what is your thoughts on the Geno Smith side
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: of things. I didn't see the update on Jack Besh.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: I know he was questionable and I think he hit
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: the injury report on Friday, but it seemed like it
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: was minor. So I already know Trey Tucker's being talked about,
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: We know Michael Meyer's being talked about. You can stack
• 46:38
  Speaker 2: GINO with both of them or add in somebody else,
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: any anything there with the geno side of things.
• 46:44
  Speaker 4: Uh, Pat and Davis talked about about this stack and
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: it's like the vast majority of people who will go
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: to this stack are not going to it because they think, oh,
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: GINO is going to have a huge game here. They're
• 46:57
  Speaker 4: going to it because they think if I just get
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: needy hooker production from this stack of Gino Tucker and
• 47:06
  Speaker 4: A Meyer, then goodness, I can fit like four different studs.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: I think they had Chase McBride and JSN in the
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: lineup all together when they did this, so it's it's
• 47:18
  Speaker 4: absolutely viable for that purpose. And again, the Giants defense
• 47:23
  Speaker 4: is really really bad. They do allow explosive play, So
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: this is as good as spot as we'll find.
• 47:27
  Speaker 3: I'll season for Trey Tucker.
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: I can't say I'm super into it though, just because
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: I think there are very attractive game environments on the slate,
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: and I think there are like really solid plays on
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: this slate at the at the quarterback and wide receiver position,
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: So I think there's too much opportunity costs there for
• 47:47
  Speaker 4: me to go this route. But again, it's it's really
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: hard to argue like they they are all good values.
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I'd still have trouble with like the
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: Chase McBride with another stack though, because like, if it
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: truly does break it, it's like, man, those guys had
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: to have the bigger game. I guess almost say, no,
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: not necessarily because the nine game, it's it is everything,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: anything is possible. This is Kevin Garnett screaming into the
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: Abyss when they win the championship, like anything is possible. Yes,
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: but just noting it. It's like that's what makes it tricky.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: And it's also I don't know if it's that sneaky,
• 48:19
  Speaker 2: like I think the realistic way is like if I think,
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: I actually think if Genti fails, it could be the
• 48:23
  Speaker 2: whole offense does, and then it is just like shut
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: it down, not actually shut it down, but like just
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: the way the game goes. It's like it just kind
• 48:30
  Speaker 2: of plays out, and that could be something with the
• 48:32
  Speaker 2: Giants d like you said, even if they get a
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: little bit of steam. But that could make sense from
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: that perspective. That could be to your Arizona point earlier,
• 48:38
  Speaker 2: like how that game, if the game actually flipped in
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: that game, it could be good. In this game, it
• 48:42
  Speaker 2: could be bad for the Raiders. It could be like
• 48:44
  Speaker 2: Tracy and the Giants start putting a stop down on
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: the man and just do it that way, and it
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: is what it is. So I don't know, I have
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: different thoughts on it. The geno stack is obviously gonna
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: look good. But I think it's gonna look good to
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: a lot of people. And I already know Gent's ownership.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: We already you know Meyer's ownership. I think Trey Tucker
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: is already getting steamed a little bit. I mean, as
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: a one off, I don't love it, but I won't
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: I won't say I wouldn't use it, because you know,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: it's a fifteen percenter versus a fifty percent. It's not
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: like that's where I'm okay with it. It's not going
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: to be the same as your Kyle Williams at low ownership.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: But I'm just noting. It's like once the Geno stack hits,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: I feel like a lot of other stuff hits with it,
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: and then it's kind of you know, you either have
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: it or you don't. So keep that in mind. But
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: if you only have one build, it's it's not going
• 49:28
  Speaker 2: to be two different once you go there. I think, so.
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: Everything you just said gives me kind of two strong
• 49:33
  Speaker 4: thoughts on this one. With the first is if you're
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: playing Gino stuff, you need to have at least one
• 49:39
  Speaker 4: giant spring back, and you might even want to because
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: the script where this really works and actually leverages gent
• 49:45
  Speaker 4: instead of also helping Genteks. The offense successful is if
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: the Giants jump out to a big lead, as improbable
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: as that sounds, the Giants stripping out to a big lead,
• 49:54
  Speaker 4: But if they were to do that, and now you say, okay,
• 49:57
  Speaker 4: gent can't get to twenty carries, he's gonna end up
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: with a to ten carries because they're just not going
• 50:01
  Speaker 4: to be able to run the ball all game.
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: And Gino was able to get there in garbage time.
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: Like that's the path where Geno Stack is successful and
• 50:10
  Speaker 4: really does a.
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: Nice job of leveraging and Gente.
• 50:12
  Speaker 4: The second thing is you mentioned that you know, okay,
• 50:15
  Speaker 4: I don't want chaseing McBride with you know, without that
• 50:19
  Speaker 4: game anyway. Okay, so if you are saving this much
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: money with the Stack, instead of paying for chasing McBride,
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: pay for the running backs, yes, pay for a Chan,
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: pay for cook Er Saquon, pay for Jonathan Taylor a person.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: And I don't think Taylors are very good play because
• 50:33
  Speaker 4: the matchup's really bad. But you know, pay for eight
• 50:35
  Speaker 4: chan especially and just do it that way. Maybe maybe
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: you go eight chan and JSN or something like that,
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: so you're still getting the benefit of Okay, I can
• 50:44
  Speaker 4: now pay up for all this upside and all these
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: you know, kind of automatic points from these superstars, but
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: you're not doing it in a way where you're helping
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: that Arizona Cincinnati game get there.
• 50:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the second one you nailed spot on, and it's
• 50:57
  Speaker 2: going to lead to my lane later on. You might
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: we might be in this this week. I don't know,
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: but just noting it. It's it's last show of the years.
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: So I will say that your second point was bang
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: on with what I was gonna say is, here's the
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: interesting factor whether you go and honestly, I'll talk about
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: from both sides, so you go genty or sorry, if
• 51:12
  Speaker 2: you go, I through fade genty and go Smith, Tucker, Meyer, Slayton. Okay,
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: you all you have two running back slots and a
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: flex left wide open, and he doesn't not like everyone
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: just thinks, oh, I better get to that Chase McBride
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: spot No, what about getting this something totally different and
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: flipping the bill that way, like we talked about from
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: from a DFS perspective, not just a game flip. So
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I think that's important, and even on the other side,
• 51:34
  Speaker 2: it can work if you wanted to go Dart Robinson
• 51:37
  Speaker 2: and THEO or Dark. When we see Robinson have big games,
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: it's almost as often as genty, not very often, but
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: when it is, it's a big game with his quarterback.
• 51:45
  Speaker 2: And so maybe it's Dart Robinson and it's like THEO
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: for nine hundred bucks more than Meyer. And then you
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: can put Trey Tucker into that, and Trey Tucker and
• 51:54
  Speaker 2: Wanderlay or Wondale sorry, are like your two highestoned guys
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: that like nothing, wander Lay Wandelay. I always say that
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: with the yeah no Robinson, if you put him in there,
• 52:02
  Speaker 2: you could see it. But that build leaves you in
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: a different spot. You're out on the most popular play
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: on the slate in this example with gent and then
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you're in on a build that is the opposite build
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: of like the McBride all and you just say that
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: game spreads out too much or fails in some way,
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: shape or form where not enough people are gonna have
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: it in the right way or comfortably. And so I'm
• 52:23
  Speaker 2: good with where I'm at, and so I love that
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: call out there. What else? What do you want to
• 52:28
  Speaker 2: go to next? On sort of talking about leveraging the
• 52:30
  Speaker 2: common build? What else do you got Yeah.
• 52:32
  Speaker 4: I think it's just kind of almost a reiteration of
• 52:37
  Speaker 4: what I just said, which is a lot of the
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: theme that we've talked about here on the Common build
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: is the fact that the expensive running backs are on
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: this appealing this week, but they are still you know,
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: expensive running backs.
• 52:48
  Speaker 3: With a lot of upside.
• 52:49
  Speaker 4: And so I think one way to leverage the common
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: build this week is just say screw it, I'm gonna
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: do what we've been doing all year and play the
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: expensive running backs Perry Chan with you know, someone from
• 52:59
  Speaker 4: the the Philly game, or even with you know, you
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: could even like play gent in that way right where
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: you go a Chan Gent and then another expensive running
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: back and now a chance actually the cheapest running back
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: instead of one of the more expensive running backs. That
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: I think, you know, it's going to show up in
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: a lot of builds where people are really using Gent
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: as maybe even the most expensive running back that they
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: have so that they can pay up at the other positions.
• 53:24
  Speaker 4: So so yeah, I think that's that's kind of just
• 53:27
  Speaker 4: the other like big picture way to leverage this light
• 53:31
  Speaker 4: that I think stands out to me.
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's key. Any other so when we
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: go to these other games acts. We already had the
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: Patriot stock, we had the Jaguars talk. We talked through
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: those ones. The other games obviously aren't very appealing when
• 53:44
  Speaker 2: it comes to the Stacks. I think you mentioned it earlier,
• 53:47
  Speaker 2: but I guess the battle of the Titans versus the
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: Saints to other really bad teams, I definitely still have interests,
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: Like I know it's going to pick up some steam,
• 53:55
  Speaker 2: but if you're able to play like Tyler Shuck olave
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: A Juwan like last week, they all had massive of
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: games and they did not. Olave did, of course, But
• 54:03
  Speaker 2: obviously Taysom Hill throwing him that last touchdown. I mean,
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: he's only twenty seven hundred. Again, he crushed at twenty
• 54:08
  Speaker 2: five hundred last week. That might be something people are
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: thinking about too. If you're landing on Michael Meyer two
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: hundred bucks more, go play some Taysom Hill at twenty
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: seven hundred. They seem very content continuing to use him.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: But the Titan side, I mean, I think the difference
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: in you and I had good conversation about this the
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: last couple of weeks is like people are always like
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: all but I don't know who to play. It's it's
• 54:28
  Speaker 2: not really about if you have to play someone from
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: them at all, it's do you believe they can keep
• 54:33
  Speaker 2: up in this game or force the back and forth?
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: And I just think for sort of one of the
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: last games of the season, a good a good chance
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: for Tennessee to get another win. Same for the Saints
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: both sides. I think both the records are identical. Believe
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: two and thirteen. It does seem like you could see
• 54:47
  Speaker 2: one of the We've seen these types of games go
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: back and forth before, where it's like, oh, two of
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: the shittiest teams actually put up two the bigger scores
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: and fantasy scores because they're they're receivers, their tight ends,
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: everybody running backs. They're all RB ones, wide receiver ones,
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: but just for such bad teams. So any thoughts on
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: this one here?
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree there.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: And then the last thing that I'll say on just
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: how to leverage the common build this week is I
• 55:12
  Speaker 4: think like there's obviously a temptation, and honestly, it's one
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: of the more fun aspects of building lineups in DFS
• 55:19
  Speaker 4: is like, okay, but I want to find the stack
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: that nobody's on that could end up going off, And
• 55:23
  Speaker 4: that's a really fun thing to do, and it's an
• 55:25
  Speaker 4: especially fun thing to hit on. But the best answer
• 55:27
  Speaker 4: this week might just be, Okay, who is the really
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: under owned guy within the chop stack? And when I
• 55:35
  Speaker 4: look through like all of the stacks on this slate,
• 55:37
  Speaker 4: basically every single one of them has.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: A low owned option that has some upside.
• 55:41
  Speaker 4: Right. So in the Arizona game, you've got Harrison and
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Michael Wilson, they're both going to be low owned. In
• 55:48
  Speaker 4: the Indianapolis and Jacksonville game, I think Parker Washington, Brian
• 55:51
  Speaker 4: Thomas Junior, Alec Pierce, all three of those guys are
• 55:54
  Speaker 4: going to be pretty low owned. So as I look
• 55:57
  Speaker 4: through the slate, leg I just say, this might be
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: a week where you say, how can I turn a
• 56:03
  Speaker 4: truck stack into a contrarian stack? More so than you say,
• 56:06
  Speaker 4: what is the stack that everyone's overlooking and actually has
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: a great chance of it?
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah? And if you're you know, especially great way to
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: do that is if you're not in on the most
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: popular game. There's a lot of secondary versions that we
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: talked about that you can now turn into really good
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: secondary versions that maybe you feel more comfortable with than
• 56:24
  Speaker 2: converting the Bengals stack into a Burrow, p Ryan, Yoshivas
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Stack where it's like, ah, that might be a bit much, right,
• 56:30
  Speaker 2: Like you could do this in these other places much easier.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: You just mentioned some guys with like Pierce, there was
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: no way he could have a good game last week,
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: and then he goes off and crushes I think you
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: knew he was gonna have a good game if I
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: recall correctly. But you know Alec Pierce, that is, he
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: had a really solid game, but everyone's like, oh, he's
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: not catching a deep ball from from rivers and it's
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: not that even needed to. Like the way they used him,
• 56:50
  Speaker 2: that game was just totally different. He was able to
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: get there just fine. So he's forty seven hundred U
• 56:55
  Speaker 2: Parker Washington. You mentioned off a big week but not popular.
• 56:58
  Speaker 2: You know everyone else off a big week is super popular.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Burrow and Gent and all these different guys that those
• 57:03
  Speaker 2: are the ones that people are moving towards Lawrence. People
• 57:06
  Speaker 2: are sticking with, but they're not necessarily sticking with the
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: guy that just had the big game and made him
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: have a big game against Denver. What if they go
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: back out and reward him again and say, hey, you're open,
• 57:14
  Speaker 2: then you could you should definitely be open now we
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: can get you set up. And I think not that
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: you know, people are super high on this guy any longer,
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: but I think Sauce is back right for Indy.
• 57:24
  Speaker 3: I'm honestly not even sure.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: I'd have to look it up or somebody. Maybe I'm missing, uh,
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: missing that, but I'm pretty sure I read what was it?
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: No, yeah, yea, but remains out yeah.
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was. So again, whatever people want
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: to say about that, but my point being, if he's
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe following around BTJ Moore or or
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: mc myers or whatever ends up being like maybe Parker
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: Washington could have a better game. So I do like
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: your call out of you know, people recognizing that they're
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: still his only nine games. There is a superior game
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: that everybody likes and wants to go to. And then
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: the main point would be is you can still get
• 57:58
  Speaker 2: to some of these secondary games, but have better conviction
• 58:01
  Speaker 2: around different ways to build around those games than in
• 58:05
  Speaker 2: the game. Everybody wants to build it because that goes
• 58:07
  Speaker 2: to your point earlier of like me having one lineup
• 58:09
  Speaker 2: in the Ultimate for example, if I if I end
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: up with just the one, it's like you don't really
• 58:13
  Speaker 2: have a lot of choice, but me building around that
• 58:15
  Speaker 2: since Arizona game is gonna be covered six ways, so
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: there's gonna be everyone's gonna have that build times five times,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: seven times ten, whatever they do to get in on it.
• 58:24
  Speaker 2: If it hits, it hits. And some people say, well,
• 58:26
  Speaker 2: if it hits, you're gonna need it. True, but I'm
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: not gonna play that way because it's not how I play.
• 58:30
  Speaker 2: So I won't be on that game stack as a whole.
• 58:33
  Speaker 2: And there actually is a chance I don't anybody from
• 58:35
  Speaker 2: that game in my lineup just because I'm gonna again,
• 58:37
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna hope for the chaos, and even if they
• 58:40
  Speaker 2: do put up points, maybe not in a way that
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: is needed. And there's other ways that you can get there,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: So all right, anything else, and if not, I'm really
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: worried because I assume you have it, but I'll let
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: you take it. It is, you know, the last show
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: of the year. We have our big announcement coming up next.
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: But let me hear your leverage lane for week seventeen.
• 59:00
  Speaker 4: This is another week where I'm struggling to kind of
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: narrow in on a specific leverage lane. But I will
• 59:07
  Speaker 4: kind of follow the thought that has kind of developed
• 59:10
  Speaker 4: over over the course of the show, which is I
• 59:13
  Speaker 4: want to pay up at running back, and for the
• 59:16
  Speaker 4: second straight week, I think.
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: Devon Chan is a phenomenal play, So a Chan is
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: going to be my leverage lane here. Tampa is a
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: pass funnel.
• 59:24
  Speaker 4: We know that that has been true about them for
• 59:27
  Speaker 4: a while now, but it's also true that they are
• 59:30
  Speaker 4: weakest in the run game against the outside zone. Well,
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: eight Chan loves outside zone and he breaks a lot
• 59:36
  Speaker 4: of explosive plays, and Tampa also has a vulnerability in
• 59:40
  Speaker 4: the run game against explosive runs. They shut down a
• 59:44
  Speaker 4: lot of run plays, but they also give up a
• 59:46
  Speaker 4: lot of explosives in the run game. We actually have
• 59:49
  Speaker 4: Miami projected for the highest explosive rush rate of the
• 59:52
  Speaker 4: entire week at sixteen point eight percent. That is a big,
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: big percentage, and I think, you know, eight Chan is once.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: Again going to be super underround here.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 4: I think he's easily the best of the spend of
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: running backs, and the fact that he's just a little
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 4: bit more expensive than the rest is going to make
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 4: him even that much more underround where I think we
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 4: haven't projected at like twelve percent eleven percent something like that.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 4: It wouldn't shock me if the game starts and I
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: open the DraftKings app and oh my god, I have
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 4: Ahan at four percent or something crazy like that. So
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 4: Ahan is gonna be my leverage language, you know, It's
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: I don't usually like making my leverage lane just one
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 4: specific player. But I think part of the point here
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 4: is if I'm using Han, if I'm paying up for
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: the most expensive running back on this particular slate, It's
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 4: going to make the rest of my roster construction naturally
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: contrarian because I'm spending this much money in a position
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 4: that other people are trying to save money.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so we did have the same and it was
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: I think you nailed it though. That was what I
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 2: was gonna get to. It's like usually it's actually because
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: I'm not set on the stack yet, so I'm gonna
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 2: give a separate one and I will use this elite
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: somewhere I can't commit to one hundred percent. Sale'll use
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 2: it in my thirty three thirty three because I'll think
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: about it, but I'll go to it in a second.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: But to your pol point, it wasn't just the a
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: Chan factor. It's the eighty five hundred dollars running back
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: on a week when a lot of the setup is
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 2: gonna be with gent and a cheaper running back and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 2: a two tight end build. And that's I mean, I
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: could just say that too. It's unlikely that it's a
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 2: two tight end build it for my main but just
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: of note one stack I'll bring up and I talked
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 2: a little bit about it earlier. I tried it out
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: last week. It was very close to me. Good the
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: namesake Tyler Shuck. I'm gonna go back to these Saints.
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I do think that it was very condensed. You can
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 2: go to that side of it. I actually don't even
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 2: have anything against like a Tony Pollard on the other side,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: and the way he's been working around things, and he's
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: fifty five hundred, which sort of fits in. If I
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: go to this game, it's very likely that I just
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: avoid Arizona Sincy altogether. You could still fit in an
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: a Chan, you could fit in other studs or whatever
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: you want to put into it. But I like shock.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: I like Juwan Johnson at forty two hundred. I like
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: Tony Pollard at fifty five hundred. I think when two
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: bad teams face off, you can sometimes see smarksply fantasy
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 2: points wise and you know, back and forth in this game,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: I think could be a little bit interesting. I don't
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 2: think it'll be the lowest OWE, but I also think
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 2: that there's enough plays games stacks things like that well
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 2: in front of it where I think that's where I'm
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 2: more than fine getting away. But it kind of actually
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: hits on your point earlier of I'm not going to
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 2: secondary options within this game stack would probably be the
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: more popular spot within this but you're down the chain
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: of that, you know, back to a Chan, but you
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: know you're down that chain a little bit of where
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 2: people are actually going on this slate. And even if
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: Tyler shucks seven to ten percent and Olave is fifteen
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 2: to twenty or somewhere in that range, and Juwan Johnson's
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 2: up there a bit, they not everybody can be owned,
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: and so you know, you're still leaving out some of
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: these big options. So I'll give that for mine. I
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: am in. I'm with you one hudred percent on a CHAN.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: I really like that spot. This week, somebody said, who's
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: the run back? They don't have to run it back.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 2: I mean you could just have them, you could have
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: him with the Miami defense. You could have Baker stacks
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: with Baker Evans. I mean, Evans looks really good again,
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: he looked awesome last week.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Evans.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: The answer, yeah, if you're really picking one. I mean,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: people say, like, oh, you know, the funny part is like,
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: that's kind of the cost almost of like a McBride
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: and Chase. But the difference is, no one's really gonna
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: have those games. I say, no one lightly. Obviously somebody will.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: I'm just saying when those two go off, it's not
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: the same as when Jamar Chase and McBride go off
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 2: and you say, well, of course I got them right,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: but I didn't have all those other pieces these guys had.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: Well these guys are these other people built a ton
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 2: of lineups and they had you covered. And that's the difference.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 2: So in single entry, there's still gonna be a ton
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 2: of game stacks that will be over the top of you,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: versus if you have like a Baker, or if you
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 2: have an Evans an a Chan or a Baker Evans
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: h Chan, you're gonna be in a league of your
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 2: own for the most part, or a very small portion
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: of the league is going to have that. In this example,
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: and you're gonna be able to find your way to
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: the top in that model. So love that. All right,
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: we got one announcement. Do you have anything else you
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: want to hit on before I pull it up?
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 3: No, I think it's got all right.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: Let us know in the chat you're feeling on this.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: We've been waiting a while to bring this up. You know,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: people have given us a ton of really good feedback
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: as the season went on, and we've been saying if
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: you caught it, we did the old dad joke of
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 2: saying the last show of the year. That doesn't mean
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: the last show that we're gonna do though. There's gonna
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 2: be another show coming up. I hope you're all very excited.
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 2: But starting at the Sony open for the PGA DFS
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 2: season right here on the ship at Nation YouTube station,
• 1:04:16
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• 1:04:19
  Speaker 2: Let us knowne the comments, your feelings and thoughts on
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 2: this show upcoming. But I'm excited, Alex, We're coming back.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: We're bringing out the PGA DFS version. We got a
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: ton of feedback all season long of people wanting us
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 2: to do this, and I think this is gonna be awesome.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: I'm very excited obviously a long season with PGA, but
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: I'm excited to do it with you, and I'm excited
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: that we got the show each and every week coming out.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be on Wednesdays and current tentative but should
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 2: stick is ten thirty am Eastern, so that if you
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: can watch it live, great, If you can't, you can
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 2: watch it on your lunch break after work, on the
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 2: way home, whatever. It might be tons of time to
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: get it in before lock on Thursday morning.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, look, look like we we obviously love
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 4: nflthy AFS. I think we both might like PGA DFS
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 4: even more than an NFL So this is gonna be
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: an absolute blast for the for the entire season, and
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: I can't wait to to talk about it. Like a
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 4: lot of the same principles, I don't think people who
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 4: haven't tried PGA DFS realize how much carryover there is
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: in terms of NFL DFS strategy to PGA DFS strategy,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 4: and a lot of what we've talked about this year
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 4: like that has been unique to leverage lane when you
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: compare it to a lot of the other NFL shows
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 4: around the industry, like the you know, the the conditional
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: ownership stuff, the pairings if you will, that plays a
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: massive role in PGADFS. So I think we're we've got
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 4: a really nice edge over in PGADFS, and I think
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: we're gonna hopefully, you know, teach people how to take
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: advantage of that all season.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be a lot of fun.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's gonna be crazy. Like you know,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of people don't know that. That's like you
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: where it's not who you play, it's how you play
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: them starting not even in football because it replies everywhere,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 2: but in DFS it was always the point of like
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: someone telling me, you can't play John ra I'm at
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 2: the Mexico Open obviously ram od to live now, but
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: just notice, like you can't play them there, he's gonna
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: be thirty five percent own. It's like you can you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: can literally lock him if you want. You can play
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: him in your single entry and get different. There's a
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 2: ton of different stuff, but I know the two biggest
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: pieces of feedback that we got, and we're thankful for
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 2: everybody and appreciate all the support, but it was the
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: two common themes were one, there's not enough content based
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: around single Entry, GPP Focus. Right, those are obviously the
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 2: tournaments that most can get into. You can extrapolate the
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: thought process up and down. MM is not for everybody.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: Even if you take our thoughts, you can still apply
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: them if you liked Hey, look today we talked about
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: the Geno Smith Stacks, we talked about the Trevor Lawrence Stacks,
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: Tyler Shuck. It's like, well, I feel like I want
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: to play three to five max. Now you can't. Now
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: you've got some thoughts on how you might play the
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Shuck lineups. Now you got some thoughts on a Baker
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 2: with Evans, with a Chan you can go play five max.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 2: But the thought process has all been around single entry.
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: That was the first piece. But the overwhelming piece that
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: we got, and this is what we couldn't be more
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: thankful for, was people just saying the combination of you
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: and I together and doing this show, and the chemistry
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: and the back and forth and different thoughts and ideas
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: and then putting them all together. So we're excited to
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 2: be able to run that back. It makes quote unquote
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 2: work very easy when it doesn't feel like work at all.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: I have a ton of fun doing this with you.
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: It's like two buddies, just shooting the shit back and forth,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 2: coming up with thoughts and ideas and putting them out
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: there and hopefully helping others. And I think we've done
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: a good job of that. So can't thank everybody enough.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: We appreciate all the support. We're excited to be able
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: to run it back for PGA. No, but I would
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: love to, being honest, right, PGA show should be great.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: Break out the my ties. I mean there was a
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: little you know, the Hawaii the Century Tournament of Champions.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 2: They shut it down this year. But it will I mean,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: my man, Aaron, you've been here all day. I mean,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: I love you and the support, but will it be
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: Leverage Lane? Will literally be Leverage Lane for PGA dfs,
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 2: the exact same show you're watching right now, my friends.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it'll be exactly what you expect and everything
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 2: you got from this show, just applying it to the
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: PGA streets now and there. I mean, there's a ton
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: of good things going on in PGA throughout the seat.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: It's a long season, right, you have big majors, you
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: have all these other different things, and so we think
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: Wednesdays are good. You get enough information by then then
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: obviously you can go to the respective spots and find
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: outlex and stuff, find our stuff. You'll be able to
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: have all that. We'll bring all that into the fold
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: and give you as much information as we can, and
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: there'll be a ton of evergreen learnings as well that
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: you could just apply just to become a better PGADFS
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: player and hopefully more successful, more profitable. That's really what
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: it's all about, Alex. Any other thoughts, any final thoughts,
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 2: and then let people know where they can find you
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 2: for the rest of this week and the rest of
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: the NFL season.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really have any anything else. It's going
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: to be so much fun talking PGA. And I think
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 4: you know the nice thing too about pg Like you said,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 4: it's where a lot of like these kind of thoughts
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 4: that we've talked about all season have really originated for us.
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 4: Where I know, like I found a ton of success
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 4: in PGA dfs before I found success in other DFS sports,
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 4: and a lot of the reason why I've been successful
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 4: in other DFS sports since are because they said, okay,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 4: well what can I apply to NFLDFS or mlbdfs that
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: I have learned and that has made me successful in
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 4: PGA DFS, so I think hopefully we do a pretty
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 4: good job of like naturally talking about the strategy in
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 4: NFL DFS here throughout the year on Leverage Laan. I
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 4: think what you guys might find is that the conversation
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: is even more natural and free flowing in pgadfs because
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: it's where a lot of our thoughts and strategies have originated.
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 4: So I can't wait for the season as a whole.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 4: I can't wait for the Sony Open January fourteenth or
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: whatever it is. And yeah, I can't wait to get rolling.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 4: But as always, you can find my stuff at alex
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: Bloka one on Twitter, whether you want the GPP scores
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 4: in ownership over at FTN or you want kind of
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: the events DFS theory props and pick them that I
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 4: have got over my discroup.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be a lot of fun. I think
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 2: the other fun part is that from a single edgity perspective,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: I mean to two things. One those if you don't
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 2: play PGA dfs, this will be a good reason for
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: you to start, because you can check this show out
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: for free and follow along. And obviously we don't talking
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: about you'd be able to find that out. But the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: main thing is when I first started playing DFS as
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 2: a whole, it was always just golf and then NFL
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: because it's like you have all week to work on it,
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 2: like when golf, even when football was on at the
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: same time as golf, like it still technically will be
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 2: with the divisional round playoffs upcoming. It's like you can
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: do a lot of stuff at night, whether you have
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: a significant other, kids, full time job, whatever it might be,
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 2: you can get into the pgadf S streets and it's
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: pretty easy to get the concept of it. It's then
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 2: the game theory and the leverage and putting it all
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: to Yeah, that's where the show is going to be about,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: and then taking the tools and applying them from there.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 2: But the other thing is it's a little bit different
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 2: than NFL. Like to your point earlier, actually a great
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 2: one of today. Just a little tidbit or spoiler I
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 2: guess is like when you say, oh, well, you know
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: we won't want to have one lineup versus everybody else
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: having a bunch, Well, in football, that's really tricky because
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: it's like game stacks are going to crush you all
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 2: of this and it can be tricky, like to Scottie
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: Scheffler or not to Scottie Scheffler, But it's when you
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: have one lineup, you can still feel really comfortable in pgadfs.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: And even if that's how you just get your feet wet,
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: get started, that's what I would suggest. But yeah, I
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 2: think if you don't play PGADFS already, you'll want to
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: start playing it. It's a great sport. It's grown a
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: ton in the last couple of years of people coming
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 2: over from these other sports because just recognizing, okay, I
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: got to pick six golfers and then start applying some
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 2: of the other theory and process to it makes it
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: a ton of fun. There's a lot of good data
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: and tools and things like that you can bring into it.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: So yeah, should be a ton of fun. If you
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: guys want to join us over at ship a nation,
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  Speaker 2: you could do so the codes up there ship nineteen
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  Speaker 2: five days for nineteen dollars go collect says no late swap.
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  Speaker 2: It's pretty sweet to set it and forget it. Except
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  Speaker 2: when deck he throws out his back and his neck
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  Speaker 2: and his back post lock. Yeah, it happens.
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  Speaker 4: But there's one other aspect of PGA that I think
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  Speaker 4: is super fun, which is the the satellites and the qualifiers.
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  Speaker 4: I think we might end up talking even more about
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  Speaker 4: like our strategy and how we kind of attack those.
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  Speaker 4: Because in NFL, the satellites and qualifiers like sometimes they
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  Speaker 4: you know, they set them for random weeks and specific
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  Speaker 4: showdowns and things of that nature or here in Week
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  Speaker 4: seven team. But in PGA, every single satellite is super
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  Speaker 4: specifically targeted for the Players Championship, and then once you
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  Speaker 4: get through the Players, it's for the Masters, and then
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  Speaker 4: once you get through the Masters, it's for the PGA Championship, right,
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  Speaker 4: And so it's it's so segmented that way, and you
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  Speaker 4: know what you're trying for. And you made an awesome
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  Speaker 4: point there, which is, if you have one lineup up
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  Speaker 4: against you know, uticaw playing the hundred in NFL, he's
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  Speaker 4: going to do all sorts of like inverse correlation things
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  Speaker 4: between his lineups that really boost his win probability at
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  Speaker 4: your expense. In PGA, you can't really do that. And
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  Speaker 4: so in PGA, if you only have one ticket and
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  Speaker 4: you're playing you know, seven hundred other people or three
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  Speaker 4: thousand other lineups, you're not at a severe disadvantage.
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  Speaker 3: For that fact.
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  Speaker 4: So the the satellite strategy, the ticket strategy, it's even
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  Speaker 4: more powerful in PJ And I think there's also an
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  Speaker 4: element there of like you get you get a lot
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  Speaker 4: of non PGAs players who are really good at dfs
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  Speaker 4: and have a lot of money, and they'll just say,
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  Speaker 4: all right, I'm going to go play the Megamilly this week,
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  Speaker 4: even though I don't know a damn thing about PGA,
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  Speaker 4: because it's the Masters and I want to watch, and
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  Speaker 4: so maybe the competition.
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  Speaker 3: Also is quite as strong as it is an NFL.
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  Speaker 4: So basically, like every single reason to love NFL DFS
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  Speaker 4: is kind of magnified for PGA.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure, it's a lot of fun. I think,
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  Speaker 2: like I said, if nothing else, this will be a
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  Speaker 2: way that you can sort of get your feet wet.
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  Speaker 2: It's one lineup you can throw it in if you're playing,
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  Speaker 2: and you'll follow what we're talking about, a single landry
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  Speaker 2: you can put in a single entry tournament of any
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  Speaker 2: dollar value that fits your bankroll. If you have FOMO
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  Speaker 2: and want to throw it into the lottery still because
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  Speaker 2: it could still win, that go ahead. And if you
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: want to put it in your satellite you can do
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  Speaker 2: that as well, obviously different thought processes in different camps
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  Speaker 2: and all of those things, but that's what we'll be
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  Speaker 2: talking about. So showdown is great as well. We don't
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  Speaker 2: have a showdown version of this, but we'll have more
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  Speaker 2: PGADFS news from shiber Nation in the January first week
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  Speaker 2: of January leading in so we'll let you guys know
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  Speaker 2: that when we get there. This has been awesome. Guys,
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  Speaker 2: we really appreciate you so much. We were excited we
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  Speaker 2: could do this, bring Leverage Lane out there season and
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: launched the show. It's been an awesome season. Week eighteen
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a shit show, as most know, will
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  Speaker 2: still be covering it at ship a Nation. He'll be
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: covering it at FTN and with his stuff and his
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 2: discord for Alex, but just noting it. No leverage Lane
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  Speaker 2: for next week. We will be back January fourteenth for
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: the Sony Open for the PGA DFS series debut of
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: Leverage Lane for PGA DFS. That's gonna do it for
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  Speaker 2: this season, guys, for Alex, for myself, Totagg and Tambau,
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  Speaker 2: thank you for watching and led ship it