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Issue 415: Blue Glow Binders · Aggressive Negotiations: A Star Wars Podcast

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  Speaker 1: The force will be with you always.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to the NED party.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, this is Nick and Ostas, you story editor on
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  Speaker 3: us is Jedi Master Matthew Rushing. Matt what are your
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  Speaker 3: of the game. So we very much appreciate if you
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  Speaker 3: love what we're doing. So, Matt, another one of those
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  Speaker 3: silly topics that enters my brain. While I happen to
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  Speaker 3: see a gift of Count Dooku. While I'm looking up
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  Speaker 3: for Dooku gifts to respond to somebody with which as
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  Speaker 3: a Star Wars fan, we are wont to do, and
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  Speaker 3: I came across one of him captive from the Clone
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  Speaker 3: War series with those glowy handcuffs that Obi Wan we
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  Speaker 3: saw on attack in Attack of the Clones when he
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  Speaker 3: was help captive that energy field. So I was saying
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  Speaker 3: about it, and I was just like, how do these
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  Speaker 3: things work? We all know the forces and all living things.
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  Speaker 3: We know that the force this, the force that, But
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  Speaker 3: if the force is about focus in mind, how do
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  Speaker 3: these glowy cuffs work to keep a Jedi or a
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  Speaker 3: Sith or other Force user neutralized.
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  Speaker 4: That's a great question. And in the spanded universe, we
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  Speaker 4: had the Ocilia Murray or whatever they're called, right, and
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  Speaker 4: you know, they created a force bubble in the Dungeons
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  Speaker 4: and Dragons movie. Just rewatched that with Chris Pine.
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  Speaker 3: They're all honor among these surprisingly delightful movie.
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  Speaker 4: It really is very, very good. But one of the
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  Speaker 4: things that really interesting about that movie is they can
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  Speaker 4: put these cuffs on you that can hamper magical ability,
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  Speaker 4: which seems akin to this idea of hampering force ability.
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  Speaker 4: And so the question then becomes what type of force
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  Speaker 4: blocks the force in the Star Wars galaxy and and
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  Speaker 4: like you said, the force being in all living things.
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  Speaker 4: That is a great question as to why, like you know,
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  Speaker 4: obi Wan being floating there right, what in the world
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  Speaker 4: causes this bubble of him not being able to, you know,
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  Speaker 4: get himself out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd never thought about that, but now that you
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  Speaker 2: bring it up, I'm like, that is a really good question.
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  Speaker 2: See an attack of the Clones, I can almost say
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  Speaker 2: obi Wan knows there's nowhere to go. Oh, like, his
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  Speaker 2: ship's been destroyed. He's underground at a droid making facility,
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  Speaker 2: surrounded by Trade Federation ships everywhere in Techno Union Army
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  Speaker 2: and all of this stuff where it's like he could
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  Speaker 2: have like I could easily see it as like, okay,
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  Speaker 2: they have it. It's making it more difficult for him,
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  Speaker 2: but it's not neutralizing him because he's like, where am
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  Speaker 2: I gonna go?
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  Speaker 3: Right, I'm just gonna I gotta hang here. But then, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: as you're going through, I want to pitch this idea
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  Speaker 3: to you because I'm not naturally inclined to go the
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  Speaker 3: East Salamiri type route where it's like there's anti force
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  Speaker 3: that's put out there. It doesn't feel right to me. Right,
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  Speaker 3: what if it's more a thing of it delivers some
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  Speaker 3: sort of low level pain, not torture pain, but some
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  Speaker 3: sort of low level pain that prevents the force user
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  Speaker 3: from concentrating. So if they go try to go into
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  Speaker 3: a trance, it's one of those things where they just
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  Speaker 3: can't focus. It's like irregular little pin pricks that go
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  Speaker 3: through their systems, so they can't keep their mind on
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  Speaker 3: the task at hand.
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  Speaker 4: See, I think that you're onto something there. The idea
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  Speaker 4: that that field helps disrupt the flow of the force
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  Speaker 4: through them in that way makes complete sense, you know,
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  Speaker 4: the the because I do agree with you the idea
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  Speaker 4: that anything kind of mechanical could block the force, or
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  Speaker 4: even that there would be something physical like a like
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  Speaker 4: some kind of being. Now. The interesting part about this though,
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  Speaker 4: and this kind of ties into our previous episode that
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  Speaker 4: we're talking about all the crazy stuff with the other
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  Speaker 4: universe and the way in which death Mary Magic works.
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  Speaker 4: It does kind of make me think that the idea
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  Speaker 4: of this silly Mary isn't all that off though, when
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  Speaker 4: I think about the fact that we've got a whole
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  Speaker 4: other galaxy, we've got Sith you know, I'm sorry, we've
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  Speaker 4: got death Miry magic that is somewhat tied to the
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  Speaker 4: Force and yet different at the same time. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it almost makes you wonder even if those type of
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  Speaker 4: binders involve something along those lines, because death Mary Magic
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  Speaker 4: does have the ability to interact with force users in
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  Speaker 4: kind of an interesting way, and so it's probably not
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  Speaker 4: the case. But yeah, but I mean, lots of those
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  Speaker 4: lines would make sense to me, right.
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  Speaker 3: Well, let's explore it like it would It would have
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  Speaker 3: to be something where it's like it's so prohibitively expensive
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  Speaker 3: to make, like it's a difficult sort of thing to
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  Speaker 3: get a hold of, so like, you know, you're average
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  Speaker 3: person on thirteen thirteen doesn't have access to these sorts
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  Speaker 3: of things, but it's an interesting possibility that there would
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  Speaker 3: be some sort of alloy or energy that would you know,
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  Speaker 3: every force has an equal and opposite force sort of
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  Speaker 3: thing where it's like you're able to build something that
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  Speaker 3: has some sort of reactant that notices a build up
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  Speaker 3: of energy, you know, because you're when you focus the force,
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  Speaker 3: you're focusing energy and it picks up on that and
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  Speaker 3: it creates like a counter energy or something. I'm still
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  Speaker 3: not necessarily in love with that idea. I sort of
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  Speaker 3: hold on to that first one that I have, but
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  Speaker 3: it is something where I think what it gets me
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  Speaker 3: back to is like I'm always glad that Star Wars
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  Speaker 3: is not Star Trek because Star Trek would have invented
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  Speaker 3: a bunch of technobabble to explain it. Yeah, where it
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  Speaker 3: would have been like, oh, well, the anti forcetrons in
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  Speaker 3: the reverse polarity stabilizer cuffs. I'm like, eh, Instead, it's like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we're gonna give it a blue glow and
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  Speaker 3: then your brain is gonna sit there and say like, uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it just works on force users differently, Like Okay, I
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  Speaker 3: could see that. I mean, I can even see slapping
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  Speaker 3: those things on people who weren't force users, just in case,
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  Speaker 3: but that would get back to the prohibit prohibitively expensive
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  Speaker 3: aspect of it, where it's like you can't just use
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  Speaker 3: these cuffs on everybody because they're just too difficult to
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  Speaker 3: manufacture or something like that. You know, sort of like
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  Speaker 3: you know, because you have Malls Mandalorian holding Bin from
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  Speaker 3: the Phantom Apprentice where it's like they that neutralized them,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, you know, it's one of those things
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  Speaker 3: where it's like, was it a specific type of metal alloy?
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  Speaker 3: Is it possible that there's something about bestcar that like
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  Speaker 3: screws with them or something like that. The only thing
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  Speaker 3: that I give credence for the SALAMII and other stuff
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  Speaker 3: is like the force is supposed to be a part
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  Speaker 3: of nature, and that means that nature is balanced, and
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  Speaker 3: so there will always be something that can counterbalance the
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  Speaker 3: ability to use the force. So I don't know, maybe
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  Speaker 3: maybe those sorts of things can get me there. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know.
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  Speaker 4: Well, there's there's always the idea, right of I mean,
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  Speaker 4: you think of the Superman idea and you can't see
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  Speaker 4: through lead, Yeah, you know, so something about the composition
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  Speaker 4: of lead does not allow his X ray vision to
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  Speaker 4: pierce it. And the idea of you know, him being
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  Speaker 4: allergic to radioactive bits of his home planet, right, And
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  Speaker 4: so I think that you are onto something when when
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  Speaker 4: you bring up the idea that you know, everything in
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  Speaker 4: nature does have something to which there is a a
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  Speaker 4: counterbalance to it. You know, you even think of lightsabers
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  Speaker 4: can cut through anything, but bestcar.
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  Speaker 3: Or whatever the hell of the electric field is on
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  Speaker 3: the Magna Guards staffs.
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  Speaker 4: Exactly right, you know. And so there are ways to
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  Speaker 4: counter act the benefits of a Jedi, and yet they
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  Speaker 4: do seem to be either cost prohibitive or few and
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  Speaker 4: far between. And you know, I think you also get
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  Speaker 4: to the the idea that many people just really haven't
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  Speaker 4: run into enough Jedi to have enough experience to know
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  Speaker 4: what works, you know, something like the Mandalorians. It seems
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  Speaker 4: as though, you know, in in the distant past, in
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  Speaker 4: the Star Wars universe, there was enough of a conflict
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  Speaker 4: between the two for the Mandalorians to specifically research and
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  Speaker 4: figure out how to counterbalance Jedi. Yeah, but by the
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  Speaker 4: time we get to the prequel era, there has been
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  Speaker 4: very little challenge to the Jedi, and their numbers mean
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  Speaker 4: that those in the galaxy they may or may not
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  Speaker 4: ever see a Jedi at all ever, and feel more
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  Speaker 4: as though they're fairy tales or maybe even myths on
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  Speaker 4: their world, because there might not really be a need
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  Speaker 4: for Jedi to ever visit their world in the first place.
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  Speaker 4: And so, you know where these type of technologies come,
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  Speaker 4: it does make sense that they are kind of just
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  Speaker 4: few and far between.
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  Speaker 3: You know, I've got a thought here, and maybe this
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  Speaker 3: supports something about the energy field or advancement of technology,
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  Speaker 3: who knows. But in Return of the Jedi, I mean, obviously, look,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not dumb. I know when they're filming Return of
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  Speaker 3: the Jedi back in the eighties, adding a blue glow
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  Speaker 3: to Luke's binders when he goes up to see the
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  Speaker 3: Emperor is a very different thing than oh, I have
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  Speaker 3: a computer that can do that. Like, I'm not being
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  Speaker 3: I'm not diminishing any current effects person who's using computers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know that it's a completely different thing.
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  Speaker 3: So obviously they're not going to put the blue glow
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  Speaker 3: on them. So I have a multifaceted couple of questions
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  Speaker 3: here for you all right, so bear with me. One
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  Speaker 3: do you think that if he took another pass at
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  Speaker 3: another special edition of all of the movies, Lucas would
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  Speaker 3: add the blue glow to Lucas to Lukes binders? Two?
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that Lukes Binder's not having a blue
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  Speaker 3: glow is a headcanon moment where we can say, well,
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  Speaker 3: they figured out a way to do it without the
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  Speaker 3: blue glow showing? And three do you think that if
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  Speaker 3: there had been that blue glow it would prevent another
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  Speaker 3: force user from undoing the binder on Luke? And therefore
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  Speaker 3: it could be more impressive for the Emperor to disengage it,
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  Speaker 3: because he's so powerful that there is no limit on him.
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  Speaker 3: So those are my that's my three questions in a
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  Speaker 3: row having to do with Luke's binders.
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  Speaker 4: Well, my first answer is, George, more special editions. You know.
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  Speaker 3: It would happen. You know full well it would happen.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm not one who drags the special editions. We
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  Speaker 3: had our conversation about the special editions of just saying
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  Speaker 3: I'm surprised it didn't occur somewhere along.
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  Speaker 4: The way, But I would say that I don't believe
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  Speaker 4: that his his binders that he's wearing are actually special
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  Speaker 4: in any way. I believe they're just normal binders. And
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  Speaker 4: the reason that Luke, you know, where's he going to go?
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  Speaker 4: This is the point, this is the plan, uh, was
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  Speaker 4: was him because these binders look exactly, I feel similar
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  Speaker 4: to the binders that we see in with.
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  Speaker 3: Probably the same problem.
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  Speaker 4: So probably the same problem. So therefore, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 4: I I don't think that there's really a need for
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  Speaker 4: a special edition on that front, because this was never
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  Speaker 4: about the binders. It was always just about the fact
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  Speaker 4: that the Emperor knew Luke needed to be there, and
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  Speaker 4: Luke knew Luke needed to be there, and Vader knew
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  Speaker 4: Luke needed to be there. So everybody knows Luke needs
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  Speaker 4: to be there because they all know the reason he's
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  Speaker 4: really there. Uh. And so this is really just sub
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  Speaker 4: refuge in that sense of like everybody's playing their part
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  Speaker 4: in this big force. Uh. And So, now, if they
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  Speaker 4: were these type of energy binders, would that mean that
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  Speaker 4: Palpatine could undo them or would they actually need to
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  Speaker 4: be undone by some sort of like special key or something.
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  Speaker 4: That's a good question.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to say. I'm going to say no, Actually,
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  Speaker 3: I just realized. Episode three gives us the answer to
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  Speaker 3: that question. So it's a pointless exercise.
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  Speaker 4: Well, he's also there on purpose, No, I.
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  Speaker 3: Know, but Palpatine is sitting there with the blue glow
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  Speaker 3: blind boy boy, I tripped upon that one with the
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  Speaker 3: binders have the blue glow in episode three when Dooku
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  Speaker 3: Slash Grievous has him captive, and uh, they release the
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  Speaker 3: binders from him with a wave of the hand. Anakin does,
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  Speaker 3: and so therefore.
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  Speaker 4: There you go.
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  Speaker 3: No, the blue glow does not prevent another force user
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  Speaker 3: from hitting them. And wow, could we retroactively say that
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  Speaker 3: was a tell right there that Palpatine was a force user.
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  Speaker 3: He was laying a hint out there to see if
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  Speaker 3: somebody noticed that they used force binders on him.
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  Speaker 4: I see, I like this. That's uh, that's really.
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  Speaker 3: Good waiting to see if Anakin's smart enough to pick
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  Speaker 3: up on it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Well, and it also, like you said too earlier,
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  Speaker 4: what if this was just one of those places where
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  Speaker 4: you know this was the highest security measure you could give,
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  Speaker 4: so you knew it would hold a Jedi, and so
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  Speaker 4: therefore you put Palpatine there because you don't want him
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  Speaker 4: escaping anyway. Sure, right, and so yeah, so that that
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  Speaker 4: could be a part of the reasoning behind that as well,
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  Speaker 4: But no, I mean, you're right, you know, absolutely, Jedi
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  Speaker 4: do have the ability, it seems to affect those binders
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  Speaker 4: outside of themselves, but they can't do it while in
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  Speaker 4: the binders. And so I love I think it really
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  Speaker 4: does come back to and I think the idea that
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  Speaker 4: the binders create a disruption in the maybe the neurochemical
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  Speaker 4: makeup of a Jedi with pain and maybe something else
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  Speaker 4: might be the best answer to this question and make
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  Speaker 4: the most sense because you aren't able to focus, because
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  Speaker 4: your focus determines your reality, right, that's what we hear
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  Speaker 4: from Qui gon Jin. And it does take focus for
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  Speaker 4: Jedi to be able to use telekinesis.
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  Speaker 3: You know.
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  Speaker 4: We see that even in the Tackle the Clones as
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  Speaker 4: an example, right, the massive column falls and Obi Wan
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  Speaker 4: and Anakin would die if Yoda didn't turn his full
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  Speaker 4: attention to making sure that this massive thing doesn't land
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  Speaker 4: on them, and it allows Dooku to escape. And so
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  Speaker 4: I think that is our to me, that's the answer.
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  Speaker 4: In the end, we come full circle and that's where
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  Speaker 4: it makes most sense.
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  Speaker 3: So it took us more than four hundred episodes. But
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  Speaker 3: we did, I think finally answer definitively the blue Glow Binders,
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  Speaker 3: their role, what they do, how they function. Once again,
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  Speaker 3: another successful journey here on Aggressive Negotiations where we have
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  Speaker 3: answered the deep burning questions and Matt, the other deep
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  Speaker 3: burning question that so many people have is how can
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  Speaker 3: they reach you online to talk about the tongue twister
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  Speaker 3: of saying blue glow Binders ten times fast.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, well, I would love to see the videos of
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  Speaker 4: people trying to do that. You can hit me up
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  Speaker 4: on social media under the name Matt Rushing Joe two.
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  Speaker 4: Here on the network, you'll find me doing owl posts
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  Speaker 4: show about every single chapter the Harry Potter series, one
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  Speaker 4: over on the TFM network doing a bunch of shows.
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  Speaker 4: One is called the six ozho two Club, where we're
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  Speaker 4: talking about all of the franchises we love. Outside of
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  Speaker 4: the Star Trek fandom, you can also find me doing
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  Speaker 4: a bunch of Star Trek Talk with my good friend
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  Speaker 4: Chris Jones, talking about a lot of the different Star
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  Speaker 4: Trek shows as we've hit their anniversaries or like Saddle
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  Speaker 4: Up or card So check all of those out. But John,
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  Speaker 4: if people are just wanting to find a way to
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  Speaker 4: lock you into some blue glow binders, where can people
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  Speaker 4: find it?
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  Speaker 3: You're having trouble saying it too. This is amazing that
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  Speaker 3: we have now created a canonical name that will make
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  Speaker 3: it impossible for people to put us in these restraints
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  Speaker 3: because it's so difficult to say blue glow binders.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, So why don't we just call them the bbbs oh.
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  Speaker 3: Bgb bgb BG Oh my god, which explains why when
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  Speaker 3: the Beg's play the Beach, I'm completely incapacitated. It causes
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  Speaker 3: my brain to shut down. The Beg's are now canonically
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  Speaker 3: Jedi inhibitor music. Actually, so we should go back and
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  Speaker 3: have a special edition where Jive talking is playing when
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  Speaker 3: Dooku goes in to talk to Obi Wan in Attack
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  Speaker 3: of the Clones. Book it somebody put that together. I'm
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  Speaker 3: far too lazy to do that and put it on YouTube,
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  Speaker 3: but I know somebody out there can do it. I
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  Speaker 3: know somebody out there can do it. Find me as
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  Speaker 3: Castle junkie out there in the wild space of the Internet.
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  Speaker 3: Find me here on the network, co hosting a show
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  Speaker 3: called house Lights with Tristan Riddell and Darren Moser, where
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: we look at the work of directors and have a
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: lot of fun doing so. But Matt I found out
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: actually that they install the lock on my quarters using
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: the blue Globe device. So I'm going to need your
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: help to release it back at the Temple. So I
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: think it's time to close these negotiations, John, negotiations are courts.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: Join the Revolution, Join the Nerd Party.