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Ep. 62: Free Agency Frenzy: Reacting to Big Splash Reported on Day 1 | Jags A.M. Podcast · Jags A.M.

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Jagsam. I'm kind Annie Stevens back here with
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  Speaker 1: us for free agency week. It's a big week in
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  Speaker 1: the NFL, and a big splash of course already right
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  Speaker 1: out of the gate for the Jaguars. Brian Text and
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  Speaker 1: John Oder are with me as we react to some
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  Speaker 1: of those reported IS signings so far. Our big thing
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  Speaker 1: number one today is going to be big splash because
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  Speaker 1: last year we felt the Jaguars didn't do a ton
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  Speaker 1: in free agency. They kind of tried to rework what
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  Speaker 1: they had the season before. But they are not wasting
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  Speaker 1: any time in free agency this time around. Brian, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of names reportedly coming to this team. Of course
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  Speaker 1: they're not official until Wednesday, but maybe five or six
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  Speaker 1: players that we know of. What was the biggest name
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  Speaker 1: that stood out to you.
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  Speaker 2: Mitch Morse, And I'm sure that doesn't surprise you because
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  Speaker 2: of the way that I have harped on the interior
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  Speaker 2: offensive line and the lack of push that Luke Fortner
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  Speaker 2: get this team. Last year, they were amongst the worst
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  Speaker 2: teams in the league on third down and short three
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  Speaker 2: yards or less, and on the most important play of
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  Speaker 2: the season, that fourth and goal from the one in Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: They got pushed backwards.
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  Speaker 2: So bringing in a veteran guy who was in the
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  Speaker 2: Pro Bowl in twenty twenty two, has been with both
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City and Buffalo. Mitch Morris is a name that
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  Speaker 2: caught my attention because he's a veteran presence that you
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  Speaker 2: can count on in the middle of the line. He
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  Speaker 2: and Sheriff and whoever is at that left guard. It's
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  Speaker 2: going to be Cleveland right. Last year they had a
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  Speaker 2: lot of turnover there, but it gives you a veteran
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  Speaker 2: presence in the middle of that line and a guy
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  Speaker 2: who's proven a John.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I thought this was obviously the one they needed
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  Speaker 4: to do.
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  Speaker 5: I'll go a different direction for the sake of not
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  Speaker 5: going the same direction as Ryan Gabe Davis wide receiver
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  Speaker 5: from Buffalo. Obviously, I think he fits into what they're doing.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that this team needs a quote true
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  Speaker 5: number one in this offense. They really didn't have a
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  Speaker 5: true number one in twenty twenty two. Everything sort of
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  Speaker 5: fit together. Trevor Lawrence didn't feel pressure to go to
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  Speaker 5: any particular receias that year. Maybe they're getting back to
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  Speaker 5: that where the ball can just sort of go organically
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  Speaker 5: I think Gay Davis gives you deep speed.
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  Speaker 4: He gives you big playability.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know that he's going to give you a
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  Speaker 5: thousand yards he's never done that, but he gives you
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  Speaker 5: sixteen point seven reception, and that stretches the field. Christian
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  Speaker 5: Kirk and Evan Ingram can work underneath. Maybe that's the
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  Speaker 5: way to go. I don't know about cal Ridley yet,
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  Speaker 5: but if all you have going in is Zay Jones, Davis,
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  Speaker 5: Kirk and Ingram, that's a fourth theme you can work with.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I would think that when you look at a hybrid situation,
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  Speaker 2: you've got Ingram and Kirk, who are clearly the number one.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, the guys who the quarterback depends on.
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  Speaker 4: Ky.
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  Speaker 2: I like Davis because he does have that size that
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  Speaker 2: the Jaguars would like to have on the perimeter, a
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  Speaker 2: guy you can throw the fifty to fifty ball up
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  Speaker 2: to and expect that he'll come down with it.
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  Speaker 1: Two Buffalo Bills heading south to Jacksonville will report that officially,
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  Speaker 1: of course, for you on Wednesday. Our second big thing
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  Speaker 1: today is not done yet, John, you mentioned it. Calvin Ridley.
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  Speaker 1: We haven't heard any news about him, right, Just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that is no news good news right now? Does that
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  Speaker 1: mean he might still be coming back to Jacksonville or
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  Speaker 1: do you think he's had it elsewhere?
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  Speaker 5: Well, sort of the way you said, no news isn't
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  Speaker 5: bad news. Sure, so that's okay. I think they're in
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  Speaker 5: a good situation with Calvin where if it's Gabe Davis
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  Speaker 5: and Christian Kirk and Evan Ingram and then you retain
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  Speaker 5: Za Jones, I think you're okay with that. If you
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  Speaker 5: can bring back Calvin at a number that makes sense,
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  Speaker 5: where it fits, where it's whatever kind of contract will
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  Speaker 5: work out for both sides, it makes sense too.
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  Speaker 4: So they've pulled it. They've sort of put themselves.
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  Speaker 5: In that situation where they don't use a draft term Ryan,
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  Speaker 5: they don't have to reach for Calvin. Really now, if
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  Speaker 5: it works, it works, I'd be a little surprised, but
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  Speaker 5: I've been surprised before, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, I would be surprised if he came back.
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  Speaker 2: They went right after receiver in Gabe Davis, and that was,
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  Speaker 2: you know, the first indicator. But I do know this,
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  Speaker 2: when you get to day one of the open negotiating
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  Speaker 2: window and you're not getting a lot of action, it
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  Speaker 2: kind of sets the market and what we had heard
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  Speaker 2: was was that Ridley was going to have a chance
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  Speaker 2: and want to be a highly paid, productive receiver somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: clearly the number one, but he didn't get any action
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  Speaker 2: on day one. Maybe it changes here on day two
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  Speaker 2: and he comes up with that big deal, But perhaps
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  Speaker 2: his market is closer to what the Jaguars thought.
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  Speaker 3: It was than what his representation thought it was.
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  Speaker 5: And Ky, what I wonder is, you know, I got
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  Speaker 5: the sense late in the season and this is purely
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  Speaker 5: gone off a couple of conversations where I was one
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  Speaker 5: of many people on Calvin. I got the idea he
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  Speaker 5: wanted to come back. Maybe there's three or four teams involved,
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  Speaker 5: and there's not a number out there that's just blowing
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  Speaker 5: Jaguars out of the water. And he keeps saying, you
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  Speaker 5: know what, you know, I like being down there. Speculation
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  Speaker 5: at this point obviously, but maybe.
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  Speaker 2: And something else to consider, Kay is the Jaguars and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know all the numbers of the players they
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  Speaker 2: signed yesterday, but you know they didn't have much cap
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  Speaker 2: from about seventeen million dollars and they still got to
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  Speaker 2: sign their class. You've got Josh Allen hanging with twenty
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  Speaker 2: four million dollars on the French and then you also
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  Speaker 2: have the opportunity perhaps to do something with the quarterback
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  Speaker 2: to bring the cap numbers down so that you can
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  Speaker 2: create opportunity if you want to go and play a
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  Speaker 2: little bit more, or to find Calvin Ridley room if
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  Speaker 2: he's still out there. So the Jaguars still have decisions
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  Speaker 2: they've got to be making and plans they've got to
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  Speaker 2: be laying out with respect to number forty one and
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  Speaker 2: number sixteen.
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  Speaker 1: An ion for sure, both of those things that were
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 5: Long as well.
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  Speaker 1: Our final big thing today is going to be draft decisions.
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  Speaker 1: So we saw them do a ton of free agency
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  Speaker 1: on Day one essentially, and what does that mean for
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  Speaker 1: the draft. Ran We've been talking about the areas of need,
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  Speaker 1: but they've addressed a couple of those places. So how
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  Speaker 1: does this affect maybe where they go in the first round.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this kids have the ability to take whoever they want.
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  Speaker 2: Right they feel like they've got three offensive tackles. Now,
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  Speaker 2: they've got two guys that can compete at center. They've
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  Speaker 2: got a number of guards. Where you bring Cooper Hodges
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  Speaker 2: back to the equation this year, same thing you bring
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  Speaker 2: in Ronald Darby, they really like Christian Braswell, who didn't
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  Speaker 2: get to play last year very much. They've got some
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  Speaker 2: numbers at corner, they've got some numbers at safety. So really, John,
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  Speaker 2: you're in the position where if you're sitting at seventeen
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  Speaker 2: and there's a defensive tackle you like you could take
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  Speaker 2: him right. You don't have to lean into cornerback because
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  Speaker 2: you let Darius Williams go. You don't have to lean
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  Speaker 2: into receiver because you didn't re sign Calvin Ridley. It
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  Speaker 2: lets them make that best available player choice.
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  Speaker 5: Well, every GM wants to be able to line up
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  Speaker 5: the day before the draft, meaning you don't have to
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  Speaker 5: go reach for a guy you don't have to plug
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  Speaker 5: then as a starter. I still feel like maybe corner
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  Speaker 5: is a spot that is similar to what tackle was
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  Speaker 5: last year, where you looked at it and said, you know,
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  Speaker 5: maybe they don't have to go get Anton Harrison, but boy,
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  Speaker 5: they need that spot on the offensive line. To me,
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  Speaker 5: corner still feels that that this puts them in a
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  Speaker 5: situation where if they're not feeling at number seventeen, as
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  Speaker 5: you said, if there is what they consider an impact
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  Speaker 5: player somewhere else, you can go another.
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  Speaker 1: Direction certainly be interesting. We'll have a couple of weeks
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  Speaker 1: to talk that over. But free agency is upon us
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  Speaker 1: in a lot of name allegedly heading to Jacksonville. We're
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  Speaker 1: going to talk over all of those right after we
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  Speaker 1: my friends.
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  Speaker 3: Did you guys, miss me, you've been gone a couple
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  Speaker 3: of weeks?
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  Speaker 1: Did you have been fighting? Have you been getting along?
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  Speaker 4: Did you go somewhere?
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  Speaker 1: Oh?
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  Speaker 4: No, we get along? Fine, Yeah, we really did. It's great.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you're back on the same side of the couch.
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  Speaker 1: This is trouble. A lot going on, and my first
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  Speaker 1: day back at work yesterday reported signings. Of course, nothing
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  Speaker 1: official until Wednesday, but we do get, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: legal tampering periods, so we get a little more.
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  Speaker 3: Are open negotiating window and I like that term, better.
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  Speaker 1: Open negotiating wind you Yeah, I mean they already knew it.
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  Speaker 1: Let's be honest, everybody already knew what they were doing
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  Speaker 1: before the tampering.
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  Speaker 3: Is now before the open negotiation window.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, God, open negotiation window. So I mean we talked
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  Speaker 1: him a little bit about maybe the names that stand
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  Speaker 1: out obviously those two Buffalo Bills. But there they went.
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  Speaker 1: I mean this kind of a little bit reminiscent of
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  Speaker 1: maybe two years ago. I mean when Doug Peterson first
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  Speaker 1: got here. They kind of went out and got some
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  Speaker 1: people to address some needs.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they didn't because they couldn't splash as heavy as
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  Speaker 2: they might have done a couple of years ago. They
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  Speaker 2: just don't have the cap room to be able to
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  Speaker 2: do it. But as John mentioned that, you know they
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  Speaker 2: were lining up, they were putting bodies in place. You know,
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  Speaker 2: Darnell Savage is a guy who was the nineteenth pick
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  Speaker 2: for the first round the year that the Packers took him,
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  Speaker 2: had a couple of good years with them, had a
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  Speaker 2: couple of years where he wasn't quite as productive, and
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  Speaker 2: they were willing to let him walk. So you hope
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  Speaker 2: that you go and capture a young guy who still
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  Speaker 2: got plenty of upside and development and may fit in
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  Speaker 2: your system. The thing that strikes me about most of
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  Speaker 2: these guys. Is is that you were bringing in guys
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  Speaker 2: who have to come in at a lower cap number.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: The demand might not have been.
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  Speaker 2: There on the market, but the Jaguars wanted him, and
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  Speaker 2: that's what's important, Especially with a guy like Savage. You've
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  Speaker 2: got a new defensive coordinator who's bringing in a new
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  Speaker 2: scheme and you need guys who can do what he
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  Speaker 2: wants them to do.
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  Speaker 5: I think Darby fits that as well, and so does Savage.
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  Speaker 5: Look ideally, you're not bringing in this many free agents.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I'm gonna shout at the clouds
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  Speaker 5: a little bit, but you'd rather be getting these guys
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  Speaker 5: through the draft. Credit them for looking at and saying,
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  Speaker 5: you know what, we drafted Fortner, but we've got to
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  Speaker 5: fix the center issue, not.
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  Speaker 4: Hanging on to that.
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  Speaker 5: Credit to him, Gabe Davis. To me, all all these
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  Speaker 5: guys sort of fit it what I like in this sense,
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  Speaker 5: you're not playing at the high end of free agency,
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  Speaker 5: where you're absolutely crippling yourself if you don't work.
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  Speaker 4: There.
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  Speaker 5: I would term this as maybe the very very end
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  Speaker 5: of the first wave of free agency. I'd rather play
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  Speaker 5: in the second wave if you had to play in
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  Speaker 5: the first wave, play at this level.
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  Speaker 4: All these guys make sense.
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  Speaker 5: And I will say this the one thing about them
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  Speaker 5: going after free agents in three or four years, Trent
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  Speaker 5: is very, very very good at.
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  Speaker 4: Picking the right free agents.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 5: They've had more success with free agency than any team
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  Speaker 5: I've been around, Jaguars, Colts, whatever. So there's a high
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  Speaker 5: percentage chance these guys fit right, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Kay, we're talking about free agency day one, right, and
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  Speaker 2: the guys the DAGs brought in, and we're going to
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  Speaker 2: turn to the draft really quickly, but we shouldn't forget
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  Speaker 2: that in between. That is maybe the most important component
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  Speaker 2: and that's all the draft picks they had last year, right,
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  Speaker 2: all the guys you know, Tyler Lacy and Cooper Hodges
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  Speaker 2: and Eric Hallett and Christian Braswell. I mean, these are
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  Speaker 2: guys that you brought in to be jars on the shelf,
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  Speaker 2: developmental guys. You didn't need them last year, but you
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  Speaker 2: need them this year and next year. As you're paying
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen and you're paying Trevor, you're gonna pay some
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  Speaker 2: of these guys. So you need low cost guys who
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  Speaker 2: can come in and play like starters. And I don't
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  Speaker 2: want people to forget that that group last year is
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  Speaker 2: big for a reason because they needed bodies, many many
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  Speaker 2: developmental guys. And that's to me, other than Mitch Morse,
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  Speaker 2: that draft classroom last year is more important than everyone
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  Speaker 2: else that they signed.
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  Speaker 5: It's very important. Is Antonio Johnson good? Is Parker Washington good?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Cooper Hidge as we keep hearing about.
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  Speaker 3: And bendro Miller come back and be a key linebacker
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  Speaker 3: for you.
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  Speaker 5: I do wonder with Cooper Hodges, had he been healthy
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  Speaker 5: last year, maybe their equation on the offensive line is different.
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  Speaker 5: That's sort of I think handcuff them a little bit.
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  Speaker 5: They love Cooper Hodges, but he didn't play, so it's
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  Speaker 5: hard to say, hey, this is our guy going forward.
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  Speaker 4: Go.
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  Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see what he's able to do
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  Speaker 1: in training camp. Obviously, work his way, and they've added
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  Speaker 1: at center there with Mitch Morse. I made a little
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  Speaker 1: to do list for us here on JACKSXAM, I did
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  Speaker 1: an off season to do list. Obviously Number one is
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  Speaker 1: signed Josh Allen to a long term deal. That one
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  Speaker 1: has yet to get checked off.
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  Speaker 2: But you know the cost now we now know because
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  Speaker 2: Brian Burdeny's got a huge deal. The Giants one hundred
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  Speaker 2: and fifty million eighty seven point seven guaranteed, and I
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  Speaker 2: think it pushes him over thirty million dollars a year average.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's what it costs now for Josh Allen.
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  Speaker 5: But my guess is that's what happened at the deadline
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  Speaker 5: is the cap went up.
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  Speaker 4: Josh's people in this purely speculation as people.
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  Speaker 5: Look at the market and say, well, if we signed
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  Speaker 5: for twenty nine million in two years, he's going to
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  Speaker 5: be grossly underpaid. So they probably went to the Jaguars
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  Speaker 5: and said this and Jared's no, well, we got to
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  Speaker 5: see if that makes any sense. Now that they see
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  Speaker 5: what it is, maybe something gets.
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  Speaker 2: Done well in production wise. I mean, Josh and Brian
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  Speaker 2: since they came into the league are very close in
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  Speaker 2: terms of the number of overall sacks. And last year
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  Speaker 2: Brian Burns on a bad team had twelve and a
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  Speaker 2: half sacks and on a pretty decent team, pretty good team,
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  Speaker 2: Josh Allen had seventeen and a half.
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  Speaker 3: So I mean it's just if you're Josh.
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  Speaker 2: Allen's people, you're putting a little bit bigger deal now
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  Speaker 2: in front of Dreads and his people saying this is.
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  Speaker 3: What we want.
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  Speaker 1: When does this get done that? I feel like we've
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  Speaker 1: been talking about this for months and it's like.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you want you want the room. You need the
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  Speaker 2: room to be able to do some things and have
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  Speaker 2: maneuverability with your cap So I would imagine their trading
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  Speaker 2: proposals here in the next week.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about the O line, what
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  Speaker 1: they've done there that was on our to do list,
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  Speaker 1: and then adding some depth on defense. I we talked
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  Speaker 1: a little bit about it, John, but I kind of
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  Speaker 1: like where they added in the defensive backs to kind
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  Speaker 1: of also, as you mentioned, allow these second year, third
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  Speaker 1: year players of the Jags have to see what they have. Right,
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  Speaker 1: Cisco's gonna be up soon, you know. On cornerback, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't get really what they wanted. They let Darius go,
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see what Tyson Campbell's kind of able to do,
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  Speaker 1: whether he you know, he was hurt a lot last year,
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  Speaker 1: if he can bounce back, whether that's someone they want
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  Speaker 1: to keep long term. I think this will be a
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  Speaker 1: big year on defense to kind of see what you
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  Speaker 1: have and whether you want to keep that continuing next season.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's Tyson Campbell was sort of a lock for
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  Speaker 5: an extension before last year.
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  Speaker 3: Didn't play, you know, had the hamstriggen.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the hamstring.
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  Speaker 5: I don't think you can look at Tyson Campbell's season
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  Speaker 5: and not fact to the hamstring and heavily. So what
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  Speaker 5: they're gonna have to do next off season is they're
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  Speaker 5: gonna have to figure out how cornerback's going to look.
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  Speaker 5: At some point you need to draft him because it's
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  Speaker 5: a young man's position, and right now they have Tyson
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  Speaker 5: Campbell going into year four round derby. In year ten,
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  Speaker 5: you don't know what Nicol looks like. That's why I
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  Speaker 5: still think corners a big possibility at number seventeen, because
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  Speaker 5: that's a position that you want to keep young because
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  Speaker 5: it you know it, it is a young man spring
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  Speaker 5: in the legs position. So not that Tyson's old, but
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  Speaker 5: you don't know if he's coming back after this year,
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  Speaker 5: so you got to make sure that position is young
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  Speaker 5: and vibrant.
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  Speaker 4: Like ky not us, I love.
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  Speaker 1: A compliment necesarily in the morning, I'll take you.
• 14:36
  Speaker 4: Welcome back guy, thank you.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Final thing on my list. I kind of threw on
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: there because I know we have talked a little bit
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: about it is Trevor still part of a conversation of
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: something they do this year, if they really fully pushed
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: it to next year.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't think you ever fully push your quarterback
• 14:49
  Speaker 3: to next year.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: I think you're always looking at your cap from a
• 14:52
  Speaker 2: you know, a thirty thousand foot view and trying to
• 14:55
  Speaker 2: figure out when do we need to do it.
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: Late in summer is kind of the time we have.
• 15:01
  Speaker 3: Joe Burrow got his deal done.
• 15:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what Mahomes got his done.
• 15:04
  Speaker 5: Yeah, it's usually the time because it takes it's so complex,
• 15:09
  Speaker 5: it's it's and it sounds silly, but it's been busy
• 15:14
  Speaker 5: in the last six weeks. So at some point summer
• 15:19
  Speaker 5: gives you a chance to say, Okay, here's our cap,
• 15:21
  Speaker 5: here's how it works, here's how it fits. You get
• 15:24
  Speaker 5: on the phone, hey shod right. You know this is
• 15:26
  Speaker 5: a big one. So there's a lot that goes into
• 15:29
  Speaker 5: this because if you look at the borough number, if
• 15:31
  Speaker 5: you look at mahomes number, it shapes your franchise, hopefully
• 15:35
  Speaker 5: for ten years, how that has structured, How are these
• 15:38
  Speaker 5: things fit, how it grows.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: It's the engine that drives your salary gup.
• 15:41
  Speaker 5: How much you want to have in each year, so
• 15:44
  Speaker 5: I think, if memory serves, I think Herbert got done
• 15:48
  Speaker 5: late as well.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: So Herbert Burrow a lot of the mega deals.
• 15:51
  Speaker 5: Josh Allen, I don't think any of them are on
• 15:53
  Speaker 5: the start of the league year because it's too much
• 15:55
  Speaker 5: to try to get done.
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: And I think that when you look at it. But
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: Doug said resoundingly at the combine, he's our guy. Okay, well,
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: you know you're going to get a deal done for him,
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: right You're going to extend him, So figure out what
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: the number is. As John said, kind of take your time,
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: look at your whole salary cap picture, and then.
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: Go ahead and make the offer.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: But you've got his fourth year and his fifth year option,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: so you do have the backstop. You don't need to
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: necessarily get it done. If you can't come to a
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: number that works, you can be patient with it. But
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: if he's your guy, you want to set your salary
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: cap up for twenty twenty five and beyond as soon
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: as you can.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: Something to keep an eye on a little bit later
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: on in the summer as things get closer to training camp,
• 16:39
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  Speaker 3: Oh.
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• 17:21
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• 17:22
  Speaker 4: Talk about. Yeah, good segment.
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  Speaker 3: I enjoy yourself all right.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Our first reader viewer listener David from the Island. He
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: wants to know the signing. The signing for Morse and
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: trading for Jones negatively affect the Jags when computing compensatory
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: picks next year.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: No, they only And I included this because there's a
• 17:43
  Speaker 5: lot of misunderstanding of that. I think any acquisition is
• 17:46
  Speaker 5: going to cost you commisitory picks.
• 17:48
  Speaker 4: First of all, I'd be surprised if they get.
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: A commensatory pick now because they have been active in
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: free agency. The formula is gains and losses involving unrestricted
• 17:59
  Speaker 5: free agents in one off season affect your compensatory picks.
• 18:04
  Speaker 5: The next offseason, they traded for Jones.
• 18:06
  Speaker 4: He's not in it. Morse was not unrestricted.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: Because he was released by Buffalo. Now that's said, they've
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: gone after four unrestricted guys, not huge number guys, but
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: when you go after that many, they would have to
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: lose somebody dramatic like Ridley. Maybe they get one in that,
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: but I'd be a little surprised because they've gained a
• 18:29
  Speaker 5: lot in free agency when that's been the reason that
• 18:31
  Speaker 5: the Jaguars haven't heck pens story picks for the last
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: decade or so is they haven't drafted well historically.
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: Ye.
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: So they have been active in free agency, and when
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: you're that active in free agency, you don't get the
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: pen story picks because you're more active than you lose.
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: I can't add anything to that.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: I mean, the one thing I do know is that
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: they have tweaked the system yearly to try to get
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: it right. You lose a big free agent, generally, you're
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: going to get a bottom of the third round pick.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: You lose some middle guys, you're generally going to get
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: a sixth or seventh round pick.
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, we'll see how that ends, but if
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you sign guys it cancels out.
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: That negates all that. So there is a little bit
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: of a misconception. A lot of my ozone weders said,
• 19:11
  Speaker 5: well they should just get rid of Ridley. They'll get
• 19:13
  Speaker 5: a third round pick. Well not if you go out
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: and be active, So that doesn't add up, and people
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: will be mad.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Next year if that happens. But that's how it.
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: Is, all right, let's hear our. Another fanatic fan question.
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: Brian from Tampa is next up, and he says, the
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: JAG's got more expensive on Monday, but did they get better?
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: Well?
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: And I included this one because I'm not sure they
• 19:34
  Speaker 5: got that much more expensive. Yes, you get expensive when
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: you play in free agency. But I didn't get the
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: idea that this was just cash at the door, you know,
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: throw everything at it guy.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: This was a more measured approach.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: I think they got better because I think Mitch Morse
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: makes you better, because I think it makes you stouter
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: in the middle.
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: Did they get better everywhere? Else? Is Gabe Davis quote
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: better than Calvin Ridley? I don't know. Is he a
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: cheaper option?
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: They can give you something different the other guys. I
• 20:06
  Speaker 5: think you're assured of starters who can help you going in.
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: Are they that much better everywhere else?
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I haven't seen yet.
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: Mitch Morris makes you better, right, everyone else makes you
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: more competitive? I think that's probably the best way to
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: say to who can say what Darnell Savage brings. I mean,
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: he was a special teams player last year in Green Bay.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: The Jaguars are taking a flyer on this. They're looking
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: at his overall talent and saying he's got what we
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: want to do X, Y and Z. Well, you can't say, well, okay,
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: you're better here or there. I like Gay Biggers. I
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: think he's a good football player. But is he that
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: explosive guy that Calvin Ridley showed us at times?
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: He can be?
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: He's not right, but he is a guy who can
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: probably be more consistent. Calvin was inconsistent running routes and
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: created problems. That's not been the word on gave Davis
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: that he's a tough guy, smart guy, well prepared guy.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: So does he make you better? In one sense, he's
• 21:03
  Speaker 2: there where the quarterback wants him to be. In another sense,
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: he's not the down the field guy that Calvin is.
• 21:08
  Speaker 5: I thought Darby was interesting that pick up too, because
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: clearly they didn't believe that Darius Williams fit what they're doing.
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: They believe that Darby does. You also bring Darby in
• 21:18
  Speaker 5: and he doesn't absolutely cripple you for five years. It's
• 21:22
  Speaker 5: a two year deal. He's going into his tenth year.
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: He and Morrise are Obviously, we've got to do something
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: at these spots because it's hard to draft, Like if
• 21:33
  Speaker 5: you're going into the draft this year trying to fill
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: those two spots, it's hard to go get two corners
• 21:39
  Speaker 5: and a center in the draft. So in this case,
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: they had to sort of go get a couple of
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: stop gaps. I would expect them to draft those two
• 21:46
  Speaker 5: positions over the next couple of years to try to
• 21:47
  Speaker 5: get it right.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Art Our final fan question is from Michael in Orange Park.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: He said, well, at least the Jaguars did something on
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the offensive line, but have they done enough? And John
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: you alluded to that maybe this is the little stop
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: gappy and then kind of address it in the draft
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: as well, and see what Cooper Hodge just brings.
• 22:03
  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, the approach with the offensive line, everybody wanted
• 22:07
  Speaker 5: to just oh, tear it down. But it's hard to do,
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: and it's easy to say, go do it. But if
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: you go do that, then all of a sudden, you're
• 22:17
  Speaker 5: bringing in mega price free agent and you're committing the
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: entire draft to that.
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I'd be fine if they went offensive line in.
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: The draft philosophically, but philosophically can go out the window,
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: and you need corners. So their school of thought clearly
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: is if we're making the middle stouter, and if we
• 22:36
  Speaker 5: can get these guys in continuity, that'll be enough to improve.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: That's the approach.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be scared to take an offensive lineman in
• 22:43
  Speaker 2: the draft because correct me if I'm wrong. Cam Robinson
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: is in the final year of his free agent contract
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: and Walker Little is in the free agent in the
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: final year of his rookie contract. So next year you
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: have one tackle under contract, Anthon Harrison, who's a really
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: good one. So depending on what they think of these
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: two guys and what their contract demands might be, if
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: you take an offensive tackle at seventeen in a draft
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: that is filled with really good offensive tackles, as many
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: as nine guys could go in the first round. If
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: you take one of those guys, fine, right, yeah, fine,
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: you're setting yourself up long term. The GM's job is
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: always to have a long term perspective on the roster,
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: and I think that would be a good move.
• 23:26
  Speaker 5: And philosophically, that is a perfectly legitimate thing to do.
• 23:30
  Speaker 5: Even though you've got two tackles, as you know, can
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: start because it's difficult. Teams do it, but it's difficult
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: to find tackles that you love outside about the top
• 23:43
  Speaker 5: forty all.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Right, something to keep an eye on. Stay with us
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: here on jag Zam. We're going to come back talk
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit about what we've got going on for
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: free agency, tomorrown where the team is headed with that expans.
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• 24:13
  Speaker 6: He dropped the throat looking looking fires fill in the
• 24:17
  Speaker 6: field and that ball is picked off. It is picked
• 24:21
  Speaker 6: off the race shown jackins. He's running it back along
• 24:24
  Speaker 6: the right sideline. That is gonna be a touchdown. That
• 24:29
  Speaker 6: is gonna be a touchdown. The Jags are gonna win
• 24:32
  Speaker 6: it on a race Seoan jacko its big six?
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: Are you kidding me?
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: A lot of changes for the Jags and a lot
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: of new faces we mentioned are coming to town. That
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: means a lot of other people are not gonna be
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: here this year. Rashaon Jenkins one of those cap casualties,
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: Darius Williams as well, and I think with some other signings,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: there's some other players that probably wants you. Jamal Agnew
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: one of those as well. So things are changing. It's
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: not gonna be like last year.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: As he goes out the door, it's important to remember
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: that Rayshawn Jenkins in twenty twenty one.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Right his first year here, he was okay.
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty two, he gave you two of the
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: biggest defensive plays in franchise history, the one that we
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: just saw and obviously the sack strip against the Titans
• 25:15
  Speaker 2: that turned into a Josh Allen touchdown that was such
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: a dramatic end to that season. So, I mean three years,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: two enormous memorialized kind of plays As a good signing.
• 25:27
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, you play this game for the money,
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: but players also play it for the memories and the
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: moment he turned into the moments.
• 25:36
  Speaker 4: That fans will never forget.
• 25:38
  Speaker 5: I think the Rayshaw's relationship with the team will remain strong.
• 25:42
  Speaker 5: I expect at some point to see him back and
• 25:45
  Speaker 5: fans will always be able to say, hey man, I
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: was there, you know, and Jamal Agne the same way
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: in the disaster. And I think the signing of a.
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: Dervin A probably means gone.
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: I mean so, but fans who were there will never
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: forget one hundred and nine yard return and he changed
• 26:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of games.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: So it's a business.
• 26:11
  Speaker 5: These guys eventually have to leave, but a few guys
• 26:16
  Speaker 5: will leave that I think mean a lot to fans.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: And hopefully these guys are financially secure for the rest
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: of their lives.
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: But if they take with.
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: Them those kind of moments and those kind of connections,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: that's pretty cool to you.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. As for us the rest of the week, We're
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: going to have a special show, Free Agency Live tomorrow
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: at four pm and we're going to have a lot
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: of talk about as all of these things will become official.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So are we going to see anymore before that or
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: just the ones we've seen so far?
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what they are keeping Tim Walsh
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: in a very sharp pencil, busy because they came into
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: this week with roughly eighteen million dollars in salary cap room,
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: and you start signing free agents in the numbers that
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: they have, and that evaporates quickly, and you still need
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: to have room for your draft class, right, which is
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: what nine picks now. I wouldn't anticipate there being anything more,
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: but I'd be honest with you, I didn't think they'd
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: have this many.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: John.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: What we know about Calvin by Wednesday or do you
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: think it might be later in the week.
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: I would expect. I would expect to hear something today.
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: It just sort of feels. But I wasn't shocked you
• 27:16
  Speaker 5: didn't hear something yesterday. I'd be a little more shocked.
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: For doing something today.
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: So yeah, I think by tomorrow at four pm, which
• 27:23
  Speaker 5: is about our show, will.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Be all right. Check out our show on Jaguars dot
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: com and on YouTube as well, and then we'll keep
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: you posted the rest of the week when all these
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: free agents come to Jacksonville.