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Pheeb's top 3 comfort anime - Anime Club · Anime Club Podcast

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Hello and welcome to another episode of Anime Club where you
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just sniffing an arrow bar there?
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Yeah, yeah. I was trying to throw you off
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because you always throw me off. I'll be your host, Chris.
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And this is the other host, Phoebe the Arrow Sniffer.
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Hey all. That's a very, very bad rock
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band. Arrow sniffer, Arrow sniff.
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Living in Alveola, have you got me snacks?
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In what? Yeah, this is my snack for the
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week. I've been all right.
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Got myself an arrow. Because we're doing comfort
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animate, I thought I'd get myself a little arrow.
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Little cheeky arrow. Oh nice, I've got actually, I'll
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let you choose and for my snacks and I've got creamy coolings
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again, a different flavour and I've got various kit Kats, so
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I've got. Various Kit Kats Talk to me
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about your various Kit Kats. Opera.
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I don't know if that's fake excitement.
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No, no, I'm serious. All right.
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I just found the problem is I sound sarcastic when I'm being
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really sincere. Oh, OK.
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We've got some sort of strawberry white chocolate
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thing. Nice.
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Got something called Bad Bad the little bird on it.
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Right. Yeah, that's one of those Sanrio
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characters, isn't it? One of these which looks like
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another strawberry thing. Yeah.
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I've got another one of them which looks like a sour.
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I don't know what that is, but. Maybe like a matcha I'm.
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Going to try one of them once. Or I think that one's good
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green. I would go for the little Sanrio
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Penguin guy and the sour one. Deal easy sorted.
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Yeah. So that's me snacks.
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So as we're saying, today is a bit of a different episode
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because today we're going to be doing Phoebe's top three comfort
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animes. Give your brain a hug, but.
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Before you reveal what the what your three pixel, what do you
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think makes a comfort anime to you?
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OK. Oh, for me, I think.
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It's all personal. It's all deeply personal.
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It's very different depending on what it is.
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I do think you have to walk away feeling like your brain has just
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been like wrapped in a cosy little duvet and your heart is
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like and happy. For me, that would give me
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comfort. I also there's also something in
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there about like the visuals and the sound as well.
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Yeah. So all of the all of the animes
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I've picked, I quite like the look of taste.
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Like is it good? That looks good.
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Oh, you're real well happy with that.
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Yeah, you can't go wrong with a Kit Kat.
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I also feel that we're about like an arrow, so I'm going to
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have a bit. Yeah, because comfort anime is
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completely different everyone, so people like imagining they're
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in that landscape or whatever. It's a nice chill Loafar 1.
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So people just like being distracted from the real world,
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like me. I also I think I noticed as I
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was picking comfort animes and trying to weigh up which ones I
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would talk about. I do tend to learn more towards
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like episodic breakdowns for a comfort anime that you can like
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dip in and out of, rather than like the big epic arcs where you
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feel like you want to watch everything.
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So there's also something about the type of story being
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something that is like easy, easily digestible.
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Definitely, because if it wasn't, I'd probably be pick the
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US office because that's the thing, yeah, dip into an
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episode, it's got very loosely connected kneeler ones, and you
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just enjoy it. Then go away.
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Fly away. Yeah, and for me, or It's Always
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Sunny or Parks and Rec are the same energy.
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I watched, I'm sure I watched three or Four Seasons of It's
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Over Sunny and A11 sitting, and I think it got to the point
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where I was like, is this really happening?
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Am I really watching? This where am I?
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I've been here for days. Well, I don't want to play
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nightworms. Could I just say never in my
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life have ATV duo encapsulated you and Liam more than Danny
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DeVito and Charlie Day? Oh yeah.
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I would I would love to do spike milk.
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Yeah, I think you do do that on top Grumps.
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You do do that with your sponsors every week.
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Yeah, I think we'll be laughing at that at the minute, but I've
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just bought some props for next week, so that's fun.
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Excellent, This is like it. I love how this this week's
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Anime club has become an advert for one of my other favorite
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comfort shows, which is Top Grumps.
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It's meant to be about me stopping by you.
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No, I love it. Sorry, I did beat you well, but
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yeah, so you like just a like a blanket head.
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Wrap. That's not quite what I said.
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That's what I got from. It if your brain OK interesting.
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No, just give your brain a hug. You're just going to feel like
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you've been held and loved. See, I can't believe.
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That oh that makes me so sad. For you like if if I want a
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comfort anime I kind of want to see.
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Oh, I thought, I thought you were saying you'd never been
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held and loved. That's.
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That's for a different type. That's for me and my therapist
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to talk about. Yeah, I like, I don't know,
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people overcoming horribly, horribly miserable odds and you
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want a feeling of, yeah, God, get in.
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You want the moment that Naruto stands up self first time and or
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is that too? That's too kind.
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You want more like people surviving against all odds?
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of like I can't even think
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of an example. Is it Zabuza, the guy with the
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with the three swords and Naruto kind of like that do?
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You want to take no Zabuza the the shark guy?
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Is it the shark guy or is it do you know he had the was it an
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apprentice who looked very female but was a male in the
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woods? Yeah, yeah.
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That's, that's Zabuza. And is it what's his name begins
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with? I know exactly who you mean.
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And that is a fantastic, fantastic bit of Naruto.
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That's like peak Naruto. Yeah.
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So good. I know I kind of missed that,
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but I don't know if I'd go back to it.
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It'll be like I understand that sounds about right.
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I'm going. I'm going to say yes, OK, I'm.
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Not going to cry, I'm going to I.
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Have 0 notes What? We will leave that for people in
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the comments. Come tell us why we're wrong
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about anime. Yeah, it was.
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Sorry I got so excited I knocked my mic.
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But it is Haku I have remembered and I'm happy because I love
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though. Oh, would you do know?
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Or someday we. Should I'd love that he's It's
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good. It's good fun.
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Is it bad that instead of doing episodes I want to do an arc?
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No, I think we can do whatever we like.
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It's our podcast. True.
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What's What's going to happen? They're going to shut us down.
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They can't. We're fine.
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Going to have a word Ruby self. The the anime police are going
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to come in here, blast in. Movie's not.
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Yes, but let's do an arc. Oh yeah, let's do that.
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So I talked about this on Sunday pod.
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Oh, is that the second sour one? It's.
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Not sour, it's just crumbly and nutty.
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Oh. Not big fan of nuts.
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Oh, this is pistachio. Oh, OK, I'm quite liking that
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clipping that. So my first pick is I talked a
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bit about this on last week's Sunday Pod, and that is
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Mushishi. It's an anime that I love.
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I won't shut up about it. Every every time every time
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someone asks for animation. Usually I'm like Cowboy Bebop
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and Mushishi because I think Cowboy Bebop everyone loves.
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But Mushishi and Cowboy Bebop did nearly make it onto my list.
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But I want to do a whole episode on that rather than have it
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share the spotlight because I think it deserves that.
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OK. And but Mushishi is an anime
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that I feel like is so credibly underrated and it hits a lot of
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like really sweet spots in my comfort anime thing.
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Went to watch, went to watch a couple of episodes quickly for
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this pod. Ended up watching the all of
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series one. Yeah, Yeah, in like what?
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In like 2 days just went just went through it and had a lovely
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time doing it. It's good so so good.
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And it's an anime that's based on like various like Japanese
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folklore. And there is a mushi master
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Ginkgo, who is the one eyed mushi master who travels round
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doing mushi related problems of mushi are these creatures or
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form of life that exist beyond plants and animals and fungi.
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And when strange things happen with humans it they're almost
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like spectral or spirit based. It's because some sort of weird
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mushi has come in so that it kind of like I used to have a
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lot of like fairy. OK, that are full of like
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different, like folklore, like beautifully like illustrated
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books that would have like descriptions of like fair, like
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old, old fairy tale and like different types of fairy folk
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and stuff. And for me, Mushishi is like the
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anime fairy law anthology, but it's but using Japanese Japanese
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folklore as its source. And on top of that, it's so it's
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like it's quite gentle horror. There's like some weird stuff
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that happened. Some of it is quite unsettling.
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It never tips into being like a like an assault on senses like
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some. And the soundtracks just
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beautiful. It's really, really gorgeous.
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Because there's an episode, Because I watched.
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You've recommended me to this ages ago and I watched a few
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episodes. I don't know what, I don't know
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why I didn't finish it, but there is a girl with no eyes
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that has it. Is it a mush?
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Mushy. She mushy.
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Yes. Behind her eyes, that's eating
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her eyes. And you watched it.
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And if I, if I said, Oh yeah, there's footage of a woman, a
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little girl, having her eyes eaten from the inside.
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You think it's a bit gross, but it's not.
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It's very stylized. It's very stylized and it's also
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kind of weirdly beautiful, but it is creepy as hell.
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And and that episode starts with her just being like locked in a
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dark room and essentially not being allowed to interact with
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people at all, except except for this one little boy who brings
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her her food and sometimes play with just plays with her in the
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dark. And then he he contracts the
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same disease. And then that's when the Mushi
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master comes in and try and tries to help.
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And the other thing I love about and also a thing in that
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episode, this massive spoilers for any.
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So like skip ahead a bit if you want to actually go watch Mushi
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and I say go watch mushi. But there's a bit in that
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episode where it's. So the thing I kind of like
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about the mushi is that often they're very parasite, which
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makes them deeply creepy to me because I find parasites really
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like a terrifying thing. And but they're like the kind of
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parasites that alter your behaviour, behaviour so that
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they can thrive so often. So in that episode, the little
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girl experiences pain whenever she looks at light, But what you
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discover is that the mushi thrive in darkness.
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So they're making her feel pain so that she'll seek darkness and
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then they'll be able to like just grow exponentially.
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So there's also something about the mushi of and, and it's not,
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it's never malicious because they don't have like will.
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They're just trying to like create the right environment
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feels very natural. Well, in the same way that you
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have those parasites that infect ants, make them climb up the top
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of trees because the aim of the parasite is to be eaten by
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birds, that then the birds can carry them over long distances
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and poop them out and then they can reproduce.
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But they like change the behaviour of the Ant, often the
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mushy change the behaviour of they've infected.
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And I find that kind of like weirdly, it just feels very of
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the natural world thing that is supposed to be supernatural.
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Anime Blue Planet. Yeah, Yeah, it does actually.
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Do you know what I'd like in terms for TV?
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Like David Attenborough is right up there for me.
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And this is basically like anime David Attenborough.
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It has exactly the same. And the soundtrack is this, as
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if someone heard his voice and heard it very like calming.
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So would you like to be in the world of Busishi with that, with
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that brigade comfort if you in this world?
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I don't think it would, I think I'd probably end up dying So and
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and also the mushi masters that it's a quite a sad existence
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because they can't stay anywhere for too long because they
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attract mushi. So that's how you become a mushi
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master is often like have some sort of incident that means that
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you then are like able to see them and attract.
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So if they stay somewhere, then all their like friends and
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family get infected, hurt. So they have to move around all
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the time. So either you're a victim or
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you're live a very lonely existence.
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So I don't know if I would want to be in the world of Mushishi.
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I'm just. I do.
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Busy. The more you're talking about
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this story, you're talking about the they're not like the rules
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of nature aspect of Mushishi of a mushy and then you get the
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beautiful but sad existence of the mushy master and stuff,
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where at what point does it bring you comfort?
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I just because yeah, great question, Chris.
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I think at the point of some deep childhood trauma maybe, I
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don't know at. Least I'm.
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Not saying yeah, I think I find it beautiful.
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And also it so sometimes it's very sad because actually the
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Mushi Master save people. Sometimes he does save people
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and there's hope. But what you see a lot of in the
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from the character Mushi, she is.
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So there's this pull between like the sort of lonely wanderer
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of Ginkgo and the communities that he's helping serve by kind
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of helping individuals in them. So I think it's the some of it's
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the community stuff as. Yeah, yeah, I get that.
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But yeah, you're but yeah, you're right, it doesn't as I
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describe, it doesn't sound very comforting, but the music does
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Also a lot of heavy lifting if you get very.
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It's like a because I'm sure we've came to talk about it
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before in the past, and you were like, it's melancholy.
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That's how you would describe it.
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And I get that feeling of. Getting comfort from that.
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Yeah, yeah. There's a touch of it's all
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like, no, no. And I think when you're feeling
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sad, sometimes watching something that's incredibly
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happy is actually very irritating writing.
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Sometimes you want to be like, I'm really sorry if you can hear
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the dog licking my, licking my arm.
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It's really, really gross. Yeah, let's pop him down there,
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Eddie. Yeah.
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So sometimes when you're feeling sad, having very poppy and happy
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is a bit like it's too much. And I think Mushishi isn't.
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It's no, you're never going to feel like it's too much, I don't
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think. I think you'll always feel like
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it's kind of holding you in a very sort of slightly depressed,
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slightly depressed like but very gentle space.
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Sometimes the dark feels. Sad.
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It's the same size to feel sad and it's also like sometimes the
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darker stuff can be very comforting as well.
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But. So when's the first time you
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actually watch this? Can you remember?
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No. Oh.
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We're introduced to this. Yeah, I think I stumbled across
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it. It it.
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So this is one of the ones that no one's ever recommended me.
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And I think I just stumbled across it on YouTube and I was
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like, right, Oh, this is interesting to me.
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Yeah, because when when we were younger, it was a lot harder to
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find a new anime. Especially if it wasn't
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mainstream like a like a shot and jump or like something that
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was so weird lots of people were talking about it.
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So yeah, that's why I was asking because I'd never heard of this
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before. You recommended ages.
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Ago No yeah. And I I it's literally I think I
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was just going through like anime videos on YouTube and like
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looking for like I was having one of those days where I was
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like, I'm just maybe I just need a new series to start.
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What do I fancy? And I just stumbled across and
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they had an episode on YouTube and like 4 episodes and I was
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like OK this is my new favorite handmade.
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Was it one of them episodes that was split into like 17 parts?
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On YouTube it's like 4 minutes each.
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Yeah, yeah, probably I'm. Pretty sure that's how I'll
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watch some of bleach. Yeah, it's very.
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I mean, I actually, I tried to find a series, this anime and
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it's really hard to find now. But they do have this, the
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rebooty second series on Crunchyroll now, which is
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exciting to me because I kind of hope that by it being on
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Crunchyroll, it will get a bit more recognition.
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But yeah, well, the beautiful world of mushy shoe.
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Hello, I do kind of watch the rest.
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Want to watch the rest of it now because it did bring his like a
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oh, it's really nice. Kind of like, do you know when
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you're like a angsty teen and you stare at the bus window when
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it's raining? Kind of, kind of.
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Sad. Yeah.
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Yes, that's what I want. Where you feel, you feel like,
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oh, maybe I am beautiful in pain.
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Moving on. Just I think that was horrible
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then. Sorry, so you've got 3 picks, do
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you want to quickly move on to the second one?
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Absolutely. Let's move on to something.
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Still cringing a little. Bit yeah, you should completely
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different. Let's go for my next one is
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Gintama, which is, and this is for a very different reason,
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because this can be if you're feeling kind of a bit like low
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energy, this can be it's this is a very high energy anime.
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Yeah. And a very goofy anime, but it's
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an anime that I find incredibly addictive and very comforting in
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that the characters are just very funny.
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It's very silly situations. It's like it's kind of
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historical. It has history facts in it, but
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it's like. Roof rugby based kind of like
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the Texas Chainsaw Mosque and Ed Gein.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like a kind of, it's almost
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like a it's like a kind of comic, but it it reminds you
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what it reminds me of. And This is why I like it.
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It reminds me of the Beano is I feel like, yeah, could you have
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my kids about? There's a touch of like, because
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it's, again, very episodic, very silly.
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And you cut to different characters in like various
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hijigs and they'll have like, their own moments and their own
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little stories in this like very pop poppy pop party version of
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the Edo period where you've got samurai and everyone's super,
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super sassy. The 4th wall breaks in this as
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well. All the time.
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All the time, yeah. And like and like, yeah, it has
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like even the manga artist even has like the narrator just
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popping. There's like a narrator who just
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pops in and out of the series as well.
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It's very, it's very like meta and and loose in in lots of
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different ways. I think like there's like very
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little like if they ever had rules, they break them really
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quickly. And I kind of love it for and it
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never takes itself too serious. And just when you think it's
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about to take itself too seriously it you realise it's
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setting up a kind of weird joke. Yeah, because they they take
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take the mic or their parody, every single other animated man
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that they've done Dragon Ball Z, they've done One Piece and
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narrator. Everything that I've seen that
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is has been parried in, paraded in here.
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And it's bringing back memories now because I'm like, do you
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remember any of the episodes? And I remember one of them was
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called Is it in a pack of cigarettes?
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One always tastes like camel shit.
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That's just the name of one of the episodes.
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Yeah, exactly. It kind of, it kind of feels
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like someone gave a manga artist a bunch of money and they were
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like, make this popular manga into an anime and he was like,
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OK. Which is hard to bash.
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Yeah. I also think because of that
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parrot, that Paradinus is part of what makes it so funny.
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Because you watch a lot of anime, sometimes you start to
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get a bit tired of the tropes. And what you can do is you can
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go to Gintama and go, yeah, that is, that is ridiculous.
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It is ridiculous when people pull shit like.
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That they have to. They have to go to where when
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Namik like Planik to get some tobacco because of the banned
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cigarettes and the wig, they go and look for the ooey gooey
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balls which are like these slavey balls to wish back
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nicotine. And then at the end they make a
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wish and it's like, Oh no, it just turns everything ooey gooey
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and they're like. Oh yeah, yeah, it's so silly.
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Yeah. I think there's even like really
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early on in the series, there's an episode where it's literally
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most sort of Scooby-doo, where the whole episode is about like
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the police officer guy with the black hair whose name I can't
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remember right now, is just trying to chase skin.
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Yeah, just trying to like, chase, chase everyone around a
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city and like, arrest them. The whole.
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And that's the whole episode. It's just that it's just, and
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there's lots of like, missed coincidence.
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It's very fast, like missed opportunities and like people
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going in the wrong direction. And it's great, yeah, but very
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different to Mushishi in that it's like, this is like a high
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beat silly departure when you just need a bit of like,
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nonsense. Yeah, it's, it's weird because
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it's like it, it does all of these amazing, like funny
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episodes. And then I remember at one
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point, because I'm sure I watched about 3-4 hundred
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episodes or something of this. There's quite a few of them.
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It might not be that many, but watch loads and then just went
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bam, right. There's some storylines and
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really deep gem character law and everything.
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And then it was like, sorry, we're going on a break for nine
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months. I don't know when we'll be back.
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That's something like that. Yeah.
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And, and this is, and it's also one of those a series where you
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think, oh, this is just a bit of fun.
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It's super silly. And suddenly you realise you
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really care what happens characters, even when it's
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they're in ridiculous circumstances, you're actually
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really rooting for. And because of that, it also
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reminds me. So my honourable mention for
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this round was vending machine, the vending machine anime that
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we've we've actually reviewed on this podcast, and because that
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did exactly the same thing. It you really ridiculous
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character in really stupid situation and suddenly you find
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yourself really invested and you don't know how you got there
28:18
because really the anime hasn't given you anything really
28:21
worthwhile. But then it does and then it
28:25
pays off. Like the fact that you care pays
28:27
off because they do like go into this like these really deep,
28:30
rich backgrounds and you're like, that's been there the
28:33
whole time and we didn't know. And I love that.
28:36
I love it for that. It's like the DND settings, you
28:40
know when you pick up a really weak NPC then later on you're
28:44
like I will, I will die for this NPC.
28:49
I will die for this person that the DM is really wishing they
28:53
had given a more normal voice. Didn't think they were going to
28:56
be sticking around for quite so long.
29:02
But vaguely I remember the story like that this was there was an
29:09
aliens invaded during feudal Japan in the outlaws like
29:14
samurai and Gintoki was one of the resistance fighters the lost
29:22
so he gave up his sword. Does he carry around a wooden
29:25
sword or something like that? It's not a short 1, it's not a
29:31
sharp 1. And that feels like a sender.
29:34
Ruino. Ruino, What's it called?
29:36
Kenchu that we've watched 100% That's yeah, yeah.
29:42
But that is that feels ripe for parody.
29:44
And that is a very we know that that's like an older anime
29:49
that's had like a fair amount of influence.
29:51
And I'm pretty sure that Gintoki is fully ripped off from that.
29:57
That I kind of like. Devil may care, but actually is
30:02
a complete badass. Yeah.
30:06
Underneath the goof, the set and it's the same.
30:09
You have lots of characters like that as well with like Trigun,
30:12
there's a few moments where you think, oh, this feels like a
30:15
character who you could see in the Trigun.
30:19
Yeah, fully. And I think that alien kind of
30:22
Ness of it feels very try like pulled from Trigun as well.
30:28
Whether or not it was you don't know, but it's like, I think
30:32
it's it feels like an anime written by someone who actually
30:35
really love other anime. Yeah.
30:38
And therefore is doing a bit of a send up.
30:41
I'm, I'm wondering if they've got some sort of like ADHD or
30:45
something like that and they're just like when you do this, then
30:49
this and this and this joke and then this.
30:51
And I'm like, I love it, but. Yeah, it's all over the place,
30:55
but you can, you can dip in and out of it.
30:58
It's like, I think it's, this is one of those animes where you
31:01
can just like pick it out, put it down when you just need like
31:04
a little break from, you know, that really heavy episode of
31:09
Kaiju #8IN series 2, which I'm not allowed to talk to you about
31:12
yet. No, but I'm watching One Piece.
31:16
No, when I finish that, I'll do. No, we're never going to be able
31:22
to talk about Kaiju number 82. I've got so much out of it to
31:29
watch. There is one thing I do like.
31:33
Why stop with One Piece? Because.
31:36
I've been, I've been least put a challenge down for us.
31:41
I've got to do it now. Put it in the form of a
31:43
challenge. I'll do anything.
31:47
Yeah, I'll think of a way to finally make you watch Kaiju #8
31:51
series 2. If I watch Dander Dan, will you
31:54
watch Kaiju #8? Yeah, yeah, done.
31:58
There we go. Challenge accepted.
32:01
See I would do a watch along or something but I can't watch
32:05
anime with other people, I don't like it.
32:08
I don't want to hear other people's opinions while I'm
32:10
watching this anime. Not even that.
32:13
You know, when someone tries to talk to you while you're
32:15
watching it And I'm like, I'm reading, listening and watching
32:17
at the same time. Leave it alone.
32:19
Yeah, sorry. IA 100% get that I and A lot of
32:24
the a lot of anime I tend to watch in bed on my phone so it's
32:28
like this is clearly a private moment leave me alone.
32:33
Not like that. It's an accident.
32:35
You're walking in on someone on the toilet.
32:38
Yeah, but it feels like that level of private.
32:41
This is my sanctum and I thought I was safe to respond however I
32:45
needed to in order to get this out.
32:50
I don't know what, I don't know what my face is doing right now
32:53
and I don't want to think about it anyway.
33:05
So this is a comfort here because of the the comedy relief
33:09
and change of pace, would you say?
33:11
Yeah, just the silliness of it. Yeah.
33:15
And it's like sometimes you get a bit bored of like seeing the
33:17
same old even if you love it. So I'm coming to this that you
33:23
do feel like it's like it's OK take the pics out of anime as
33:26
well as like love it deeply. Yeah, I totally get that.
33:35
Yeah. Should we move on to your third,
33:37
third and final pick? Oh my God yes and I I love this
33:42
anime and. Sorry, go on.
33:48
Go on. No, no, that's OK.
33:52
So for me, this is an anime that I I really love and I haven't
33:56
ever because I genuinely don't know to be your vibe, but I it's
34:03
just, there's something about it that's so it's again, it has
34:07
like a very human story. So there's no magic, there's no
34:10
fighting, and it's really about a bunch of nerds living
34:15
together, trying to protect something that they all love,
34:18
which is their community in the shared house.
34:23
And the anime is called Princess Jellyfish.
34:25
And the reason I was looking because I have the manga up on a
34:29
shelf next to my desk. Yeah, Yeah.
34:33
And I love it. It's a beautiful anime.
34:37
It's got it's very it's very female driven.
34:41
So most of the characters in it are female and yet you very
34:45
rarely see them in any sexual. They're just very human whole
34:50
realised characters that happen to be women.
34:54
And you also have like gender queerness in it as well.
34:59
So we have 1 character who is transvestite is like a man
35:05
dressed as a woman. It's not that he wants to be a
35:07
woman, he just enjoys dressing and being beautiful.
35:10
So there's a kind of like gender fluidness to some of the
35:14
characters as well. There's a touch of romance, but
35:19
it's never the be all and end all story, which I think is very
35:25
unique for like female orientated anime as in like the
35:30
main, the main, the the romance is a subplot.
35:33
The main plot is about the community and about the
35:36
friendships that the character has.
35:40
Yeah. And I just think it's I think
35:42
it's one of the cutest animes I think I've seen and it fills me
35:46
with a sense of hope. And that's why I find this one
35:50
very, very comforting. And it's also why I want to
35:52
finish with this one. You're like laughing at me
35:55
because you're like, you're ridiculous.
35:57
No, no, I get it. I was surprised at the the
36:01
romance being a secondary plot and the friendships because
36:04
normally they'll be around. Yeah, and actually, and exactly,
36:09
especially in especially in like anime marketed to women, the
36:14
romances like if you look at something like Salem, which I
36:17
also loved, get me wrong. But like the whole thing about
36:21
Tuxedo Mark, it is apart from the fact that he's incredibly
36:25
toxic as a character, like he is not a good he is not a good
36:30
romance goal for any young. But like the like that kind of
36:37
derails the whole story of her like being this strong,
36:40
independent warrior from, you know, base and in this it's it's
36:49
completely secondary. And actually the manga, the, the
36:53
the woman who wrote the manga decided not to resolve the
36:57
romantics as part of the as part of the ending.
37:02
So it's in terms of a series they only really do like up to
37:06
the first or second books. So it never got the the full
37:09
story has never been fully animated because it just wasn't,
37:15
it just didn't find an audience, I think.
37:17
So there's also part of me. I really love this anime, but it
37:21
all leaves me bit unsatisfied because you never get to see
37:25
like the full story play out. But they they they do complete
37:29
what, like one of the 1st art in the in the series that they did
37:34
do. But yeah, so they the the the
37:38
writer decides to resolve the main character's story, not
37:44
romance. And I like that because it's
37:46
like actually her, she goes on to become this like like girl
37:52
boss and realises that it like the romance season actually that
37:56
important that she carries on and achieves her.
37:59
And I think that's in terms of anime we should be and manga
38:03
that we should be giving to young women.
38:05
This it would rate really highly for me.
38:07
And I it's one that I wish I had found earlier in my viewing.
38:14
Like when I found it I was like in my mid 20s and I wish I had
38:17
like found it as a teenager, although I don't know if it
38:20
existed then because I am a yeah.
38:23
Again, how did you find this one?
38:25
Because I'd never heard of this till you said, I think we're the
38:29
first mention of it that I heard was because I think it was Pride
38:34
month and we're looking at animes that had good
38:37
representation that wasn't exploitative.
38:40
And you said, Oh well, I like Princess jellyfish.
38:44
That's quite good. And there was a banana one.
38:48
As well. Oh, the which is which is the
38:52
gay gangsters Banana fish? Yes, I think that was it.
38:56
Yeah, it was actually, that is the first time I'd ever heard of
39:00
it or it was under my radar, but I don't think I'm the topic
39:04
demographic for. It if I'm honest, I don't think
39:08
you are either and I don't think that you wouldn't.
39:13
So it's not that I don't think you would not enjoy it.
39:16
I think it's got a good story. I don't think you would fall in
39:20
love with it and be like, this is one of the best anime ever.
39:24
And I think that's OK because I don't think it doesn't like, not
39:27
all anime has to be for everyone.
39:29
Do you know what I mean? Yeah.
39:33
I'm sure there's stuff that I like that you won't.
39:37
Yeah, maybe. I've got a pretty low bar for
39:40
what I like, though. I'm just like an enthusiastic
39:43
audience. You know what?
39:45
I mean, I'll find one. I'll find one.
39:48
Yeah, we found ones that we both don't like.
39:52
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but that's not about this.
39:58
That's on another podcast. Come for anime.
40:01
So yeah, so. And I like this.
40:03
I also love just the whole aesthetics of it.
40:08
So at one point, because obviously you've got this, this
40:11
transvestite character who does lots of, lots of dressing up and
40:16
like maybe they're a bit more draggy.
40:18
You don't see them often. They tend to live in the world
40:23
in female attire, even though they're male.
40:27
It's a really, they're a really interesting character actually.
40:29
And, and I think, I think actually, I would say binary is
40:34
a better term, although probably not one that was like as used as
40:38
often when this was made. But they definitely feel like a
40:40
non binary character, like a character that doesn't
40:43
necessarily want to be labeled male or female and they just
40:45
want to exist in what they like and what they feel is right.
40:49
And I think that's really interesting.
40:51
We don't get a lot of story, but you get that character And also
40:54
they get to be like it's nice seeing the men in this show a
41:00
level of emotional intelligence as well, because like I think
41:05
sometimes the other thing that can happen in female anime is
41:08
men are just idiots. And actually I've got a lot of
41:12
male friends who are really like supportive and intelligent and
41:17
like think about the world, but sometimes say they sometimes
41:20
still do say stupid stuff, but they're able to learn from it
41:26
and it's quite lovely. And actually the Met like that
41:28
character brother shows up as like a secondary love interest
41:32
point, but you see like a kind of an interesting relationship
41:35
between them as well as as as brothers, which is really fun.
41:42
But because it's got this kind of very fabulous drag element to
41:45
it, you have a lot, it's like very rich pastel based, like
41:52
colours and sets. And it makes me feel like I'm
41:56
living in a Polly Pocket world, and I love that.
42:01
I was getting that a lot because I haven't watched this, but I've
42:05
watched, I think it was like a little clip or a trailer from it
42:11
and it does look very Polly Pocket, the colors.
42:14
It's super Polly Pocket, and I love that like, and that's one
42:19
of the other things is that like, if for all that it has
42:21
these like, really strong, amazing, like quite modern
42:24
interpretations of like female characters.
42:27
The aesthetics are so girly. And I can't.
42:30
And sometimes I just want to like, wear pink.
42:35
I want to wear pink and think that jellyfish are beautiful.
42:38
When I go to an aquarium. That's OK.
42:43
I want to go because there are. Yeah, it does.
42:46
Like, And actually after watching this for the first
42:49
time, I can't remember how I found it.
42:51
It was probably another like of trawling through YouTube, find a
42:54
strange anime, give it a go. Which I think I spent a lot of
43:00
time doing. What?
43:02
I get it. And getting like, kind of like a
43:05
weird back catalog animated. And also a lot of series.
43:11
There are a lot of series. I fell in love with my aunties
43:14
that never went past like one series because I think I was one
43:19
of the very few people who was like, I love this.
43:22
And everyone else is like, yeah, but have you saw this?
43:26
Yeah. That has like, you know,
43:28
broader, better audience. And you're like, yeah, fair.
43:30
That's quite good. I get why that might be more
43:35
appealing. Yeah, yeah.
43:38
But but yeah, for me, this is a sweet spot.
43:40
A very, very sweet spot. Sugary sweet like a cupcake.
43:46
Again, but I still collect. The cake like a pasta kind of
43:49
cupcake. What I was going to say is
43:50
aquariums are great. It definitely is this you will
43:54
want you'll get the urge to go to an aquarium.
43:57
You might also start looking up what does it take to own
43:59
jellyfish? And the answer is too much.
44:02
Yeah. There's way too much involved in
44:05
owning jellyfish, but I went down a rabbit hole thinking
44:09
maybe I could be a jellyfish Princess do.
44:15
You know what's weird? I've been down a lot of rabbit
44:18
holes and for stuff like that, like owning jellyfish, I'm sure
44:23
I thought exactly the same thing.
44:25
But I'm like, Nah, I'll. Stick to well, you've also
44:29
thought if you could. You've also thought if you could
44:31
be a jellyfish Princess. Well, I think it was right.
44:38
I was to say, oh, I've really missed lava lamps, but they only
44:40
make the glitter ones now. And I was to say.
44:44
Oh, you might stare out for me then.
44:47
Well sorry, I was like, oh I really love lava lamps but they
44:50
don't make the lava ones anymore.
44:51
It's all the rubbish glitter ones.
44:54
I thought what's the next best thing?
44:55
This. That's good to stare at.
44:57
That requires low maintenance jellyfish.
45:02
Turns out it's not low maintenance, it's actually quite
45:06
high maintenance. Nothing alive is low
45:08
maintenance. Nothing alive is low maintenance
45:12
and we shouldn't pick up pets as hobbies.
45:15
Oh yeah, jellyfish aren't just for Christmas.
45:19
They're not, but they would look cute in middle Santa hats or in
45:27
one of those snow globes that. Reminds us I've got an M making
45:33
bully. Went and told it to grease.
45:34
We brought back a puffer fish. Do you know you can get?
45:38
Them Oh yeah, I did. Yeah.
45:41
Like the, the like, yeah, we're dried.
45:47
Yeah, the dried. Ones we always put a Santa hat
45:49
on every Christmas. Nice, this tiny one.
45:54
Has he got a name? Well, of course it has to be a
45:55
tiny little hat, because he's a tiny little guy.
45:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's not really.
46:04
Does he have a name? No, not yet.
46:11
Can I propose Santa Santa or Santos Oh.
46:18
Yeah, because he's Greek, isn't he?
46:20
Because he, he and Rishi, I don't know, don't know Rishi.
46:24
Never checked. I don't know how to sex a puff
46:29
of fish, so where'd? You find Princess John Fish
46:33
comforting I think carefully is the answer to how to sex about
46:38
the fish and. With a gloved hand with a.
46:43
Gloved Hand and protection and why I love Princess jellyfish is
46:51
it's yeah, it's just it's cute to look at.
46:53
The aesthetics are amazing. I feel like often I'll watch
46:57
very like pastorally. I nearly did a non anime comfort
47:02
anime and do like a comfort animation, which is the The
47:05
other would be being puppycat, which is on Netflix and is also
47:10
a pastel dream when you like watch it very weird, but like
47:13
much more surreal and goofy a bit more Adventure Time.
47:22
Whereas Princess Jellyfist is just, it's just earnest and
47:25
sweet and. Would you recommend it to
47:28
people? I would recommend it to certain
47:32
people because I don't think it is everyone's tea.
47:38
I really don't. And I think that's OK because I
47:40
think the people who do like it will really fall in love with
47:44
it, and that's a beautiful thing.
47:48
I did notice that the episodes were on YouTube as well.
47:51
Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is what I mean.
47:54
Sometimes you can troll through and get lesser known anime
47:57
that's been cancelled and no one cares about the rights anymore.
48:01
You can find it on YouTube. So yeah.
48:03
So all these three pics you did tell us because I had to make
48:07
the thumbnail before doing this. So I need to put that on.
48:12
So I thought myself, should I watch the episodes?
48:16
But I thought, no, it's Phoebe's episodes.
48:18
She can. She can describe what, what
48:21
makes it important to her. Plus I've been with her and I'm
48:26
watching One Piece and and I will be until I'm 60 because
48:31
there's like something crazy like 1700 hours but.
48:37
It's at the minute it is 19 full solid days.
48:42
Yeah, that's a lot. Yeah, that's a lot.
48:48
Because busy, Lee said to me he was a site, right?
48:52
Do you think you could finish and get up the current the
48:55
current episodes? By the time We were Sonic called
48:59
next year, I was like, I'll try. Oh.
49:05
Yeah, fair. That seems like an easy goal.
49:08
Yeah. And we're wanting to talk about
49:10
it as well. Yeah.
49:14
On Shop Gramps. No, and something different.
49:18
I was, I was wanting like because he, he's obviously.
49:21
A One Piece special. Yeah, because he was, he's
49:26
watched. He's completely up to date and
49:28
he's obsessed with One Piece. And he was just like, if there's
49:31
anything you want to do in One Piece, I'll jump in on this.
49:34
And I was like, well, I'll need to watch it.
49:36
And I kind of talked to you, unless I've caught up with you.
49:39
And that's the thing. Kind of like the Kaiju #8 fiasco
49:43
that's going on at the minute. Yeah, you know I'm not allowed
49:46
to talk about it because I'll spoil it for you.
49:48
One day. One day, but yeah.
49:53
So I'm going to watch them in increments.
49:57
Do you know? Can you?
50:00
I think The thing is Kaiju #8 season.
50:03
Now look, we'll have this conversation of life.
50:10
I kind of do that one. So what are we doing next week,
50:18
Chris? Do you know what it is?
50:20
I have no idea to. Would say no, I think we did.
50:28
We could do a film. We could do, oh, do you know
50:33
what we were talking about that we could do?
50:35
Do you want to do a Naruto? The original series.
50:41
The original series The first 3 episodes of the original series.
50:45
The big one that is Naruto future her car gay.
50:51
Yeah, good. It'll not be in the first 3
50:54
episodes of doing things. I can't.
50:56
I've seen all of Naruto. I've seen all of Shippuden as
50:59
well and haven't touched Borrow because it'll make us feel
51:02
ancient. Because I'm like this shouldn't
51:04
be happening and. But it's like when you see child
51:08
stars grow up and then their kids are filmed and you're like.
51:12
Why isn't holy coke and just walking around with a beard kind
51:17
of like that? Yeah.
51:20
Is he in disguise, hiding from the bandits, trying to rob his
51:22
house? I.
51:24
Hope so mentally cope. Yeah, it's like what?
51:32
Why? Why did a whole village.
51:36
I hate the ex Hokage's child like so badly?
51:40
Why did he stay by himself in the flat?
51:42
Where's his caregiver? Why is he just have Robin?
51:45
Why? Like, yeah, yeah.
51:52
If you know that there's a small child but the demon inside of
51:55
them, why do you antagonize them?
51:58
Why? Why would you not show him love?
51:59
And also doesn't that make doesn't the awfulness of his and
52:04
people do show him love He has like people like Aruka who
52:07
believe in him despite the fact that he fails every time.
52:12
No, they do. And you have the haka gig
52:13
watches over him and tries to tries to do his best guy sells
52:18
Rahman. The guy who sells in running is
52:21
it Ichikaru's Rahman? But also it kind of like I have
52:29
moments with Naruto talk about comfort anime where I well up
52:34
because he like you know, you were saying about like being
52:37
people overcome odds. Every time Naruto stands up and
52:41
does the kind thing despite the fact that he has been shown so
52:45
little kindness, I feel myself get choked up.
52:52
Oh. Little guy, little guy with all
53:00
powerful demon inside of him, just like getting by on like
53:05
sheer goodwill. It's oh, so I'm all for doing
53:11
that. Do you want to do that Can.
53:13
We do more than three episodes. Yeah, of course we could do as
53:16
many as you can get through between watching One Piece I'll.
53:21
Do One piece Naruto One piece Naruto.
53:24
I said this story was so good in that as well.
53:27
I'm thinking of like Rockley, he's all fiasco where he didn't
53:30
have. A Rockley when he takes his
53:34
takes his weights off for the first time and you realize that
53:37
how he's so strong you cannot contain his strength.
53:44
No Gates as well and knock himself.
53:47
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he does. Yeah, he does.
53:50
And also like there are so many good, the TuneIn exams in
53:54
particular are actually some favorite, but you've also got
53:57
like the Zabuza and Haku bit where they go out for their
54:01
first like like June in a rank missions that just always seem
54:07
to go sideways. Kakashi as well, his whole stuff
54:11
like there is like, it's so good.
54:13
It was a game changer. I'm looking forward to talking
54:15
about this. And do you know some some of the
54:20
the Naruto deaths with some of the first deaths, right?
54:23
Where do you know afterwards? It's the equivalent of junior.
54:28
I know you don't drive when you're driving home and you just
54:30
turn the radio off and you're in silencing like I just need, I
54:33
just need a bit of at a long time just to process all of
54:37
this. When ASPA died I was at OH.
54:44
And there's a moment where you realize that Kira and I, there's
54:47
a moment where Kira and I just, And you realize what a big blow
54:56
it is to. Yeah.
55:00
Also, do you know who else I'd love?
55:01
Do you? Let's save this for.
55:03
Next week, Next week. Sorry, Yeah, yeah, we're just
55:05
talking about good times and bad times and what's going up next
55:09
this week on the Gyp North. Oh, so we have got on the Sunday
55:16
pod we are doing. We're time warping again, baby,
55:21
because it is the 50th anniversary.
55:25
The Rocky Horror Show and of course, the suddenly pod on
55:28
Tuesday have got a very special interview about the new
55:32
documentary, the new documentary film on Rocky Horror with Linus
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McBride. Yeah, who was the son of the
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writer, one of the writers, one of the creators of Rocky Horror,
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which is really worth a watch. Go and have a seen it already.
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We also have on top Gramps. What's it called that you're
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doing? Bird birds, demic.
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Birds demic, That was it. Birds demic so Alfred Hitchcock
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eat your. Heart a truly, truly gonna be
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wild. Yeah.
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And then on is it Saturday we're doing we're doing countdown.
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It's not count. Is it countdown to doomsday
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Still we still counting down the booth?
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Yeah, yeah. But we're doing Captain Marvel,
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which is one of Tammy's favorite.
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I've very much been looking forward to this episode.
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And Eddie is also a big captive, which is why he's kicking off
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the background. So yeah, it's going to be a good
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week. And then, I don't know, I don't
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think we've got any wonk. But if you haven't, go and check
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out the wonk playlist because they're just fun to watch.
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You don't have to see a new episode to enjoy it.
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Sounds good. I think that's us for the week,
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yeah. See this is prerecorded, but
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next week it might be live, I don't know, maybe.
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We don't know, We'll see. Depends how much we've been hit
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in the heart by Naruto. Watch it play.
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Oh, I want to shoot Putin. I've watched them all, but let's
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talk about it. Let's do the films.
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Bye bye.