Latest / UK Column Radio / UK Column News Podcast 26th June 2024
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- 0:08Good afternoon. It's Wednesday, the twenty sixth of June twenty twenty four,
- 0:11just after one o'clock. Welcome, do you k call him news? I'm
- 0:13your host Mac Robinson joining me by video link. We have Vanessa Biley from
- 0:17Damascus and Charles Mallett. Welcome to the program. Both. We are going
- 0:22to kick off with the release yesterday of Julian Nsanje. He was released from
- 0:28Belmarsh Prison. He had been there since twenty nineteen. He got on a
- 0:34chartered aircraft which flew him to Bangkok initially and then to Saipan, which is
- 0:41apparently an unincorporated organized territory of the United States, and there he had took
- 0:47part in a court hearing. I'm sure everybody knows this by now, but
- 0:51anyway, he pled guilty to one charge. He was due to be sentenced
- 0:55to five years in prison, and with time served he was released. And
- 1:00well you've just seen him getting off the aircraft again in Australia, So a
- 1:04Sianish out of prison. And well, I guess we can have a discussion
- 1:10about that. But if we look at this, what was the BBC's response
- 1:15campaigner or attention seeker. So, first of all, Charles, I don't
- 1:19know what your thoughts are here, but does the average attention seeker do they
- 1:25spend fourteen years in incarceration of various types? Good afternoon, Mike, Good
- 1:30afternoon, all. I don't think they do. No, I think I
- 1:34think that's extremely unfair and really deflective sort of look at it by the BBC.
- 1:38And I think the question really now should not be about his current predicament,
- 1:45but should be a chance to go over what has happened to him,
- 1:48what did happen, and to have some redress for him, but also to
- 1:52be able to make sure that that cannot happen to anybody again. Well.
- 1:56Indeed, now the Australian government seems to have had quite a to play on
- 2:00this, and of course historically they haven't, but there has been a change
- 2:02of government in Australia and the new regime there seems to have been a bit
- 2:07more proactive about sorting this side. So whether they're latest actions including delegations sent
- 2:15to the United States Congress at the end of last year and so on,
- 2:17whether that had anything to do with it, I'm not sure. Of course,
- 2:21we can't underestimate the campaign that's been run over the last number of years
- 2:27by Wiki Leagues and their supporters. But the other issue here and Vanessa is,
- 2:34as Charles has just said, we shouldn't try to deflect away from what
- 2:38a science has actually done. I mean, what are your thoughts about the
- 2:42contribution that he's made. Well, he's done everything that the BBC has never
- 2:46done. I mean, he's held power to account and he's also enabled through
- 2:53the Wiki League's files, journalists that are looking to hold power to count he's
- 3:00enabled them to do so. And I mean, you know, we don't
- 3:02have the time right now to go through the very long history of information that
- 3:07has been used or good basically from the Wiki Leagues platform, So you know
- 3:15that bottom line, really he's done what all journalists and legacy media should be
- 3:20doing and which none of them do, and that's why he's abilified. Indeed,
- 3:24and a lot of the naysayers that I've seen on social media so far,
- 3:28Vanessa are focusing on the alleged sexual improprieties and trying to deflect again away
- 3:35from the release of the documentation itself. And you know, at the end
- 3:40of the day, he has been or he has apparently pled guilty to a
- 3:46charge of actually inciting the release of documentation. So the argument of the other
- 3:53side, and this core case, is that it wasn't that he was just
- 3:57handed documents by blows, but he actually incited that handing over of whistle boars.
- 4:03There's got to be a massive public interest case in this, just acsolutely.
- 4:11Yes, absolutely, And also, of course we shouldn't forget the timing,
- 4:15just coming up to Biden's election, and you know, there's going to
- 4:20be all sorts of different spins and different interests involved in trying to spin this
- 4:27story. But I think, you know, we just have to keep a
- 4:30focus on the goods that Julian As did, his statements that, as I've
- 4:35said, have exposed really, you know, the criminals in this world,
- 4:43and bear that in mind at all times. Yes, anything else is distraction.
- 4:48Indeed, indeed, just to sort of finish this off, Charles just
- 4:54was going to because we're going to come on to we're going to come on
- 4:57to independent candidates later on and who should be the next prime minister perhaps,
- 5:02but I just thought we should highlight this and let's bring this on screen because
- 5:08this is an excerpt from a book called Secret Power by Stefani Marizzi and We're
- 5:14making the point here that it was the Crime Prosecution Service, a public authority
- 5:17then headed by Kir Starmer, which had helped create the legal paralysis and diplomatic
- 5:21quagmar responsible for Julian Assange's arbitrary detention. So that I guess gives us care
- 5:29Starmer's involvement in the Julian Assange case, Care Starmer's involvement in some of the
- 5:33prosecutions over the Horizon It scandal that continues, the inquiry continues on that at
- 5:42the moment, and also the Jimmy Savil case. So Ker Starmer it seems
- 5:46doesn't have a great reputation with respect to judicial matters, and the question is
- 5:53is he qualified to be Prime minister? Well, I don't know that's background
- 6:00with the CPS could be directly overlaid to any sort of political capability, But
- 6:05it doesn't look like he's somebody that is able to confront issues that have blighted
- 6:13his past, or atally should be viewed as having blighted his past. And
- 6:15this doesn't seem to have propped up nearly enough during the inquisition of him as
- 6:20an individual or his election campaign. And if he's going to put himself forward
- 6:26as somebody who's sort of made a difference to the country in the past,
- 6:29then that needs to be examined and scrutinized. He needs to accept the consequences.
- 6:32But no, I wouldn't say that, based on his parent leadership of
- 6:36the CPS as DPP, that he's covered himself in anything like glory. No,
- 6:44indeed. Okay, well, so congratulations to Asang. Some people sorry,
- 6:47just to finish this off, and so some people will be perhaps disappointed
- 6:51that there may be a precedent said here by him accepting this guilty plea on
- 6:58a single charge. But it seems to me that if there's going to be
- 7:01any criticism there, then people need to also have spent certainly several years in
- 7:08Belmarsh and a lot of years in another form of incarceration before that, before
- 7:13any criticism is leveled. Absolutely, walk in his shoes. I think that's
- 7:18you know, it's a very unfair criticism. Look, as I said,
- 7:21look at what he's achieved, look at what he's done, look at what
- 7:25he's gone through, and leave the guy alone. I'm only sad actually that
- 7:30John Pilger didn't live to see this day. I think he would have been
- 7:35overjoyed. Yes, okay, well, look let's move on to another serious
- 7:41issue at the moment of that is the situation with respect to Lebanon and Israel.
- 7:46And well, the Daily Telegraph has been behaving not terribly correctly here.
- 7:54Yes, I think a call should be made to Marianna Spring of BBC Verify
- 7:59to follow through or this story quite extraordinary actually from the Telegraph, And I
- 8:03just want to mention that this afternoon we're receiving reports of Israel claiming that it's
- 8:07making preemptive strikes on southern Lebanon. We can only assume that means preemptive pre
- 8:16invasion. It remains to be seen, of course, of Israel will actually
- 8:20carry through with the invasion, but it's very intense bombardment that is currently ongoing.
- 8:26So anyway, so a few days ago the Telegraph produced quite an extraordinary
- 8:31article making a claim it had no byline, it's written anonymously, it's full
- 8:37of anonymous sources. Hez Bala stores missiles and explosives at Lebanon's main airport.
- 8:43Whistleblowers claim, of course, no mention of the fact that the US is
- 8:46bringing missiles and weapons into Lebanon via the same roughie Kari Airport in Beirut.
- 8:56So what are they actually claiming. They're claiming that effectively Hazblayra is storing huge
- 9:01quantities of Iranian weapons, missiles and explosives in the main civilian airport. They
- 9:07say that also at the airport is the eighty to fourteen cornet. Well,
- 9:11by the way, that's manufactured in Syria, and Syria really doesn't need to
- 9:13fly it into Beyrout. It can be transported across border. The disclosures will
- 9:20raise fears that the Raphi Carreri Airport, just four miles from the city center,
- 9:24could become a major military target. Will you don't say the fact that
- 9:28the Telegraph actually produced this article at this stage in the conflict between Southern Lebanon
- 9:35and Israel is absolutely criminal in my opinion. They then made the claim that
- 9:43a security source that the International Air Transport Association told the Telegraph we have been
- 9:48aware of this for years, but we are unable to do anything without international
- 9:52legal action. We are hand tied to do what we'd really like, which
- 9:56is to close the airport and have all the weapons and ex explosives removed.
- 10:01Absolutely fake news, fake attribution of this citation so let's have a look at
- 10:09what the IATA actually said in a statement to the National News Agency, which
- 10:15is basically the official ministry of Information in Lebanon. The quote is completely false
- 10:20and misattributed. IATA has not made and will not make any comments on the
- 10:26situation at Beirut Airport. We have no involvement in the political or security situation
- 10:31in Lebanon and would never comment on such matters. We alerted the Telegraph to
- 10:35the error, and the newspaper has since updated the article removing iaiata's name.
- 10:43Well, yes, they did remove the section which mentioned I. E.
- 10:48Iata, but with absolutely no retraction, absolutely no explanation of why the article
- 10:56was not only altered in its text, but also in the headline. Two
- 11:01Beirut airport bosses deny it's being used to store HESBLA weapons and what is particularly
- 11:09dishonest. If you go to the original URL and click on it, you
- 11:13arrive at the new article with no as. Again, no explanation, no
- 11:16retraction, no update, no apology. Labanon's caretaker Minister of Public Works and
- 11:22Transport, Ali Hamni this is from Almyadin, proclaimed that Beirut Airport has been
- 11:28subjected disinformation for years, adding that instead of publishing a ridiculous and baseless report
- 11:37citing anonymous forces, the British Daily should have opted for checking in with the
- 11:41British Department of Transport, which conducted a field visit of the airport on January
- 11:46the twenty second, twenty twenty four. Incredible dereliction of journalistic ethics and duty
- 11:52by the Telegraph, Greg Carstrom, the Economist Middle East correspondent, I'd love
- 11:58to know the backstory of who, at the time Telegraph decided to publish something
- 12:01so transparent that no one, even our foreign staff, was willing to put
- 12:07their name to it. Lebanon's caretake Minister of Information Side Marcuri accused the Telegraphs
- 12:13article in a post on X contradicting the principles and ethics of journalism, and
- 12:18called on all media outlets not only to denounce it, but also to expose
- 12:22the goals behind its publication in these circumstances, in particular stressing that they are
- 12:28not innocent. I would agree with that the Telegraph is complicit in any escalation
- 12:33that includes the bombing of a civilian airport in the center of Beirut, a
- 12:39diplomatic This is translated from Arabic in al Akba. Diplomatic and media tour at
- 12:46the airport facilities was immediately organized, and a British Foreign Office staff in Beirut
- 12:54denied any collusion with the Telegraph and basically distanced themselves from the Telegraph, which
- 13:00is kind of interesting because we know that the Telegraph pretty much works hand in
- 13:05glove with intelligence agencies in the UK. So this was a quick report by
- 13:11actually a reporter from the National news agency, so not affiliated the law during
- 13:18the visit to the airport. Lebanon's Transportation minister has called for an open tour
- 13:26of the Beirut International Airport after the British newspaper The Telegraph published an anonymously sourced
- 13:33an anonymously written article alleging that the Lebanese has Bulo group is smuggling and stockpiling
- 13:39all matter of weapons in the international airport. So we've been walking from warehouse
- 13:43to warehouse, whereas you can see behind me, there are stock files of
- 13:46various boxes. We've even searched in some of the boxes, and so far
- 13:50there are no weapons to be found. The Telegraph article alludging all sorts of
- 13:54weapons in the civilian airport has caused critics to be concerned that the newspaper maybe
- 14:01manufacturing consent for a potential Israeli strike on the airport, which Israel has done
- 14:07in the past. This comes at a time a heightened conflict, one might
- 14:11say, already a war that has erupted between Israel and Hasbula and its allied
- 14:18militias, although there are fears that it could be stalked into a larger all
- 14:22out and maybe even regional war. It's also interesting the reaction from Israeli media,
- 14:31which of course is to bolster the story. This is just from two
- 14:35selections, the Times of Israel and whine Up, but you can see that
- 14:39they've immediately run with the story with the potential of using it as justification for
- 14:46bombing. I repeat, a civilian airport that has tens of thousands of people
- 14:50going through it every day. The Air Transport Union in Lebanon denied in a
- 14:54statement the Telegraphs report, in which it claimed that his Philosopher's missiles. The
- 15:00UTA called the Telegraphs unfounded claims, mere illusions and lies aimed at endangering Beirut
- 15:05Airport, It's civilian workers as well as travelers to and from it. All
- 15:09of whom are civilians. So I mean, I repeat again, this is
- 15:15extraordinarily criminal action by the Telegraph. And in fact Lebanon is now talking about
- 15:22suing the Telegraph and damaging the reputation of Fairute's main airport, and in the
- 15:28text of the article it talks about putting civilian lives at severe risk. And
- 15:33if we just remember when we're talking about journalistic integrity, I just found this
- 15:41video by chance looking at Telegraphs Twitter x page back in twenty twenty when they
- 15:50were running a COVID fake news campaign, and this is what they said in
- 15:56one of the videos that made up that campaign. But there's a lot of
- 16:00misinformation out there. Some of it's produced by people who are intentionally seeking to
- 16:06mislead, some of it by people who are inadversively misleading the truth. Is
- 16:11the best way to note the information you're getting is right is if it comes
- 16:14from a credible source, for example the NHS or the government, and it's
- 16:18being reported in a rectable news source like a telegram. Well, I mean,
- 16:26you know, I'm smiling, but honestly, this has kind of blown
- 16:33me away with how dishonest and downright criminal lack of reporting this is that was
- 16:41a complete fantasy report put out to effectively, as I said, to provide
- 16:47the pretext for Israel to bomb a civilian airport. They should be hauled over
- 16:52the cold. Yeah, I mean in twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, whenever
- 16:56it was when you and I were running media on trial events, we were
- 17:02focusing on the British media's coverage of Syrian war, for example, and the
- 17:07types of tactics. But even in Syria we didn't see. This is beyond
- 17:12well beyond anything they did even in other conflicts that we had an interest in.
- 17:18Yeah, I mean the Telegraph was also taking part in the vilification of
- 17:22the Syrian government, which effectively was a pre tax for the murder of Syrian
- 17:26civilians, the occupation of their territory and murderous attacks on the Syrian Arabami inside
- 17:34Syria, and thirteen coming up to fourteen years war sanctions, et cetera.
- 17:41But yeah, I mean, this even after their exposure as fraudulent media multiple
- 17:47times, and if you remember, they were actually running the headline that Saddam
- 17:52had moved his weapons of destruction into Syria. So this isn't the first time.
- 17:57That was back in two thousand and four, at the same time that
- 18:00the BBC's Juliet parkin BBC Media and Action was infiltrating Syrian society to basically encourage
- 18:11opposition. So you know, these media outlets at some point have got to
- 18:18be held accountable for the role they've played in genocide in Gaza, but also
- 18:25in mass atrocities carried out by the UK regime globally. Yes, okay,
- 18:30thank you. Well, if we're talking about wardrums and the banging of war
- 18:36drums, that's not the only intervention that the British media plays. The other
- 18:41is election interference. Charles, Yes, not just the British media. I
- 18:48mean, last week I spoke about the feeling of disenfranchisement across the electorate and
- 18:52the record number of independent candidates that are going to be standing in this general
- 18:57election. But what I'd like to look at today are some of the obstacles
- 19:00presented to those candidates and effectively what looks like a deliberate engineering of the system
- 19:07in order to suppress independent candidates. Of course, because they cannot be controlled
- 19:11in the same way that candidates or indeed MPs belonging to a political party can
- 19:17be. So just a couple of headlines from local newspapers talking about independent candidates
- 19:22not invited to hustings. But I just want to give the background to this.
- 19:26And of course the Electoral Commission, whilst writing about how to conduct or
- 19:32hold hustings, make it very clear that there are of course two different types.
- 19:36So they say that some hustings cannot be reasonably regarded as intended to promote
- 19:40any parties or candidates over any others. We call this a non selective hustings,
- 19:45and there's therefore a spending implication or at least declaration on that. But
- 19:52in addition to non selective, the guidance also explained situations in which hustings can
- 19:56be reasonably regard as intended to to promote the candidates or parties who attend.
- 20:03We call this a selective hustings. In this case, either the hustings organizer
- 20:07or the candidates or parties may need to account for the spending. Now that
- 20:14therefore is that actually it's not the Electoral Commission that dictates who would be invited
- 20:18to a hustings, it's the organizer. And we'll just have a run through
- 20:22of some of the possibilities or some of the slants on hustings, which might
- 20:26dictate exactly why independent candidates wouldn't be asked. So first of all, we'll
- 20:30look at Friends of the Earth, so obviously there's going to be an environmental
- 20:34bent to hustings organized by Friends of the Earth. We've then got from West
- 20:37Coast today the urban hustings election candidates speak on LGBTQ plus and local issues.
- 20:45Then the Operation Black Vote hosting a national series of political hustings. Then we
- 20:51go to the Muslim courents and of Britain hustings at mosques, and then Jewish
- 20:55community hustings written up for the general election twenty twelve four. So the point
- 21:00about that is that there is in effect no control mechanism by which an independent
- 21:07candidate may squeeze themselves into these selective hustings. So that's the first part.
- 21:11The second part, as Mike says, is the media coverage, and this
- 21:15is governed by Offcom and effectively is tantamount to censorship of independent candidates by means
- 21:25of the guidance that they have written down, or at least the rules they've
- 21:27written down in elections and referendums Section six so particularly section six point two due
- 21:36weight must be given to the coverage of parties and independent candidates during the election
- 21:41period. In determining the appropriate level of coverage to be given, broadcasters must
- 21:47take into account evidence of past electoral support and or current support. Well,
- 21:52of course, that's rather a closed loop, because if it's an independent candidate
- 21:56that hasn't stood before, there will be no evidence of past electoral support.
- 22:00And if the media or broadcasters have not previously been reporting accurately the level of
- 22:04support for an independent candidate, then they're absolutely trapped and OFCOM will perpetuate that
- 22:10cycle. It goes on Rule six point two, due weight must be given
- 22:12to designated organizations in coverage during the referendum period. Broadcasters must also consider consider
- 22:19giving appropriate coverage to other permitted participants with significant views and perspectives. Now,
- 22:26that is a very well effectively ambiguous statement in which it might be interpreted in
- 22:32any way permitted participants with significant views and perspectives. Well, who judges that
- 22:38there's guidance on this, And of course OFCOM actually clarify it by saying it's
- 22:42an editorial decision for the broadcaster as to what constitutes appropriate coverage. In relation
- 22:48to Rule six point two. The concept of giving due weight as required by
- 22:52Rule six point two is flexible. Its application depends on the next sorry on
- 22:59the electoral context. So it's quite clear to see that the system is such
- 23:06that the independent candidates may be shut out at will, not just by the
- 23:10organizers of hustings, but also by the broadcasters and the other thing I just
- 23:15thought we'd look at given that it's Pride month. There's been some talk about
- 23:19the Labor Manifesto and what they've put out about transgender people, and they're calling
- 23:29this respection and Opportunity for all. That's the heading they've given this. I
- 23:32just want to highlight the hipoxy of it. They say so called conversion therapy
- 23:37is abuse. There is no other word for it. So Labor will finally
- 23:40deliver a full, trans inclusive ban on conversion practices while protecting the freedom for
- 23:45people to explore their sexual orientation and gender identity. Of course, given that
- 23:49it is Pride month, and given that there is a wave of targeted propaganda
- 23:56at particularly young people with the benefit of being able to change gender at will,
- 24:04the fact that they are describing conversion therapy as abuse is telling. And
- 24:10of course back to front because in effect, what they're allowing for is conversion
- 24:14therapy, or at least is the absolute encouragement of people to change gender in
- 24:19the first place. They then go on to say they'll modernize, simplify,
- 24:22and reform the intrusive and outdated gender recognition law to a new process will remove
- 24:27in dignities for trans people who deserve recognition and acceptance, whilst retaining the need
- 24:33for a diagnosis of gender dysphoria from a specialist doctor, enabling access to the
- 24:37healthcare pathway. Now, there are many issues that crop up there, but
- 24:41I think the main thing that's never concentrated on in this debate are these supposed
- 24:45healthcare professionals who are actually providing a diagnosis and giving in effect a clinical recognition
- 24:52to this that puts them on the so called healthcare pathway. These are the
- 24:56people that need to be held to account and very sell them. Are they
- 25:00ever mentioned? Yes? Okay, thank you for that, Charles. Okay.
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- 25:52did Charles with Mark Bryford on the website. Yeah, it's terrific interview.
- 25:56It's got very good feedback so far. Mark is a farmer in Suffolk and
- 26:00he's a rare breed because he has a very clear idea of what's gone wrong
- 26:06in terms of farming practices and the control mechanisms but also destruction of the environment.
- 26:10But he has practical means by which this can be changed, both at
- 26:15this sort of bigger farm level but also at the individual level, how you
- 26:18can get involved and take control of your own food supply. So I'd really
- 26:22encourage you to listen to that, thank you. And tomorrow at one pm
- 26:26Debbie will be speaking to Ursula Edgington, who is from New Zealand, and
- 26:30they're just going to be covering They're going to be covering all the COVID related
- 26:33the stuff that happened in New Zealand and what's happened since. So join us
- 26:37for that at one pm tomorrow. It did for your Darry. Saturday,
- 26:41the nineteenth of October twenty twenty four in Bristol, we will be holding a
- 26:47really live event and so we will be there and that the venue will be
- 26:52announced much closer to the time, but keep an eye out further information about
- 26:57this. Then for the well, I guess the final time now the Science
- 27:03Beautiful Festival in Wimborne and Dorset begins well tomorrow and I think Kenny is already
- 27:10there today, but we will all be there for that. So if you're
- 27:12joining us for that, please we hope to see you and look forward to
- 27:15meeting you. Okay, now, Charles, where does that take us?
- 27:21That takes us too? Well? Are we being killed by cattle? Well?
- 27:26This is it. The relentless push to convince us that all livestock is
- 27:30not just deadly but also destructive to the environment. So we start with an
- 27:36announcement that DEFRA have just reported on African swine fever in pigs and wild boars
- 27:41in Europe. Of course you won't be surprised to know this amounts to one
- 27:45case of the wild boar in Western Germany for the first time. Nonetheless,
- 27:51that has made them concentrate on development of a vaccine for African swine flu.
- 27:56Of course, this is only possible because of the use of the PCR tests,
- 28:00so this is in effect the COVID model being put onto livestock. And
- 28:04then we look at the Perbright Institute, which we've spoken about a number of
- 28:08times before, and they run a course lab diagnosis of African swine fever conveniently
- 28:15enough, in which you will be able to learn how to isolate ASF virus
- 28:18and applied diagnostic methods. So it's little coincidence to find that Perbright Institute are
- 28:26also joining the European Swine Fever Project, which is going to be developing new
- 28:30technologies for African swine fever vaccines. Here we see at the European Commission.
- 28:36On top of that, we've got avian influenza recorded in Australia. Again absolute
- 28:41bare minimum of evidence, but still it's enough to put out a press release
- 28:45about it. And this again is meant to make people swallow the idea of
- 28:52the spread of something not just from one creature to another, but also from
- 28:56one species to another and then of course onto humans. So they all about
- 29:00H five and H five N one having spread among seabirds and of course in
- 29:04the Falklands. Then we go back to the elephant seals earlier in the year,
- 29:07so then now prepared for detections in Australia despite the absolute minimal evidence of
- 29:15five cases again by PCR test. Further, we've got on the environmental side
- 29:22of it. Denmark yesterday has just put through a carbon tax on agriculture and
- 29:27again this seems to be a push to eliminate livestock from people's lives. This
- 29:34came from an earlier policy paper February twenty ten to three the adaptation of Danish
- 29:40farm sector to attax on greenhouse gas emissions, and in effect it does leave
- 29:47people begging the question that McGill University did ask, which is why isn't the
- 29:51carbon dioxide from breathing a concern for global warming? Meaning if animals are to
- 29:57be attacked for effectively breathing, why are humans not subject to the same treatment.
- 30:04But the answer seems to be that carbon dioxide we inhale does not contribute
- 30:08to global warming for the simple reason that we also take up an equivalent amount
- 30:11of carbon dioxide from the air, albeit indirectly. No one really seems to
- 30:17be able to explain why animals aren't regarded in the same light. But the
- 30:21point here to consider really is that despite the absolute absence of any sort of
- 30:27coherent science, we are continually being pushed to consider that we should eliminate meat
- 30:34from our diets, that livestock are no good for the environment, and that
- 30:38we are likely to catch disease off them, or that they will spread disease
- 30:42among each other. So this is of course something that we have been looking
- 30:47at for a while and we'll keep very much keep an eye on, but
- 30:49particularly with regard to the push or the suggestion that these things can jump not
- 30:56just geographically but from species to species despite absolute dearth of evidence. Yes,
- 31:03but well, I would argue Charles, they are absolutely encouraging us to believe
- 31:07that humans are contributing to global warming through breathing out which is why they want
- 31:11to stop us breathing at all. And we'll come onto the war policy a
- 31:15bit more in a second. But in the meantime, of course, we
- 31:18have a situation if we put this on screen of the net zero policy being
- 31:25used to justify more and more lithium ion batteries being created, and what we
- 31:29can see on screen here is the sparks and the eventual burning of lithium batteries
- 31:36in South Korea in a manufacturing facility in South Korea. This killed twenty two
- 31:41mostly Chinese migrant workers. It injured another aid and so this far as you
- 31:48can see, began after the batteries exploded. But then we in a second,
- 31:52we'll move on to Glasgow because in this case, so that was South
- 31:57Korea. So let's have a look at the Glasgow video and very similar kinds
- 32:02of pictures in terms of the smoke coming out of this. But this was
- 32:06on Sunday night. Firefighters at the scene to try to deal with This was
- 32:10a battery recycling facility. But the key thing here is that what did we
- 32:17see on social media afterwards? But we saw allegations that isn't it a coincidence
- 32:23that we had two such incidents happening very close together in time and immediately after
- 32:30the Russian North Korean Defense Pact was done, and so the suggestion was that
- 32:36these two events were somehow linked to some kind of sabotage by the Russians.
- 32:42Well, I haven't seen that while that was going on on social media.
- 32:45I didn't see that going out in mainstream media. But already we're starting to
- 32:49see the narrative start to build. So this is the Wall Street journal,
- 32:52I believe from a couple of days ago, Russian saboteurs behind arson attack on
- 32:57German factory. And I'm just a have to say a charge. I find
- 33:00this really unbelievable, more nonsense, fake news from the mainstream press, pushing
- 33:07a narrative with the suggestion that lithium fires happening in factories, which these things
- 33:13happen on a fairly regular basis. And you've highlighted yourself the fact that the
- 33:17British Fire Service extremely concerned about, you know, storage facilities in the countryside
- 33:22for storing energy in lithium iron batteries being a fire hazard, which is not
- 33:29understood. But we've got to divert our attention from that and look at Russia
- 33:35being responsible instead on the Donkey. I mean, if you can, if
- 33:42you can nail Russia for it, then why not also filling pages with this
- 33:45sort of stuff stops you from asking politicians real questions in the run up to
- 33:47the general election. Yes, I mean what they should really be concentrating on
- 33:51here is how the United Kingdom is using lithium battery and battery storage facilities.
- 33:57And exactly like you say, we've pointed this out and the fire services up
- 34:00and down the land have massive concerns and you know you could tell from that
- 34:05video in career you cannot put those fires out. So it's not just the
- 34:07fire, but it's also the environmental hazard during and after the fire. And
- 34:13there's just no regard given to this. There's absolutely no investigation of this policy
- 34:17to to you know, potentially destroy large ways of the environment and it's not
- 34:23going to get better. Indeed, and just before you come on to your
- 34:27energy segmentary, Charles, I just want to make the point these fires can't
- 34:30be put out because once these batteries go on fire, they start generating their
- 34:35own oxygen supply, and that of course means that you know, you can't
- 34:38easily put them out you can to smother them to create a barrier between the
- 34:44oxygen and the atmosphere and the fire. Because it's generating, it's all oxygen,
- 34:49so it's it's really dangerous. But anyway, you have a segment on
- 34:52energy, now I do, and that's it. But you know, we
- 34:57should go into this considering the implications, which are that lithium is required an
- 35:00awful lot of what are called renewable technologies. But I'm going to start with
- 35:07what's happening in London at the moment, which is the Breakthrough Energy Summit,
- 35:12and that of course, is going to focus on all sorts of renewable technology.
- 35:15It may not surprise you to learn that Bill Gates happens to be the
- 35:20fonder of Breakthrough Energy, so he's managed to come over here for this summit.
- 35:25But it's worth pointing out that a few weeks previously, a couple of
- 35:29weeks previously, he put a message on x saying that I've been waiting for
- 35:34this day for nearly twenty years. Today we broke ground on the first ever
- 35:37Natrium plant in Kemera, Wyoming. This next generation nuclear power plant is a
- 35:42big step towards safe, abundant, zero carbon energy. So what we're going
- 35:46to look at is effectively what you're able to do with enough money and control
- 35:52to be able to shape policy in order to stimulate demand and then make money
- 35:57from the results. And Bill Gates also has an enterprise, conveniently enough,
- 36:01which is just referred to in Wyoming called terror Power, which is addressing surgeon
- 36:06gooble energy demand and preserving a sustainable future with the precise balance between renewable and
- 36:14nuclear energy. Now this is not the first time it's been mentioned by UK
- 36:16column Debi Evans had this in her blog back in May twenty twenty three.
- 36:21But the significant development here as far as Gates is concerned are several fold.
- 36:27First of all, on the business case, we've got the former Department for
- 36:30Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy forecasting an enormous upsurge in nuclear power capacity and
- 36:37therefore demand for construction and capacity over the next few years up to twenty thirty
- 36:44five. So it's good timing from Bill Gates there. But the next thing
- 36:47to point out, of course, is that there is a health element to
- 36:52this, and terror Power has terror Power isotopes, which is what they're describing
- 36:57as nuclear innovation to advance new treatments. And again Debbie and on u K
- 37:01column, we've spoken a lot about the massive push towards diagnostics, testing and
- 37:07therefore treatments for cancer. So they're saying that there's a scarce global supply of
- 37:12actinium two two five, an isotopic material in which they'll be able to or
- 37:16with which they'll be able to support pharmaceutical companies cancer research and development efforts.
- 37:22And just to cement that, they say that terror power and pan terrorort of
- 37:25a lot of terror ann strategic collaboration to accelerate across actinium two to five.
- 37:32So again good timing because McMillan Cancer Cancer Support show that there is a forecast.
- 37:40Admittedly this does correlate very strongly with the ROWLIGHTE or new pharmaceutical products from
- 37:46the end of twenty to twenty up to the present day. But also interesting
- 37:52we see the drop off of diagnoses but a relatively flat line for death.
- 37:58So again, in terms of marrcketing, what Gates has is being able to
- 38:04in effect by testing, sell a product based on a test result, as
- 38:07opposed to anybody necessarily being as ill as they might appear to be from the
- 38:12test. But just finally we go to Astrosenica and they have announced that they
- 38:17have acquired just this month June twenty twenty four Fusion and Fusion is part of
- 38:25Astrosenica's oncology portfolio. With the addition of fusion pipeline of radio conjugates, including
- 38:31their most advanced program, a potential new treatment for patients with metastatic castration resistant
- 38:37prostate cancer, and brings new expertise and pioneering research and development, manufacturing and
- 38:43supply chain capabilities in actinium based radioconjugates to Astrosenica. So there we go.
- 38:50That's the whole circuit closed effectively by organizations like Terra Power who are able to
- 38:55stimulate demand for such energy technology by shaping the policy because they give the right
- 39:01amounts of money to the right organizations, and therefore we're driven down a renewable
- 39:06and nuclear channel. Then demand opens up for nuclear and they have a sort
- 39:09of health derivative. So it's very well sewn up, and it'd be very
- 39:13interesting to see what the Health Service does on the cancer diagnostics and testing and
- 39:20indeed treatments as a result of this. Thank you, Thank you, Charles
- 39:24Vanessa. Let's come back to you and what you were talking abo at the
- 39:28beginning about Lebanon and the issue with Israel. Let's get some more detail on
- 39:34this. Yeah, well, I think this is a dangerous part of what
- 39:40is happening in Lebanon right now, which of course is directly related to what
- 39:45is happening in Gaza. Bolar is fighting the Israeli forces in the north of
- 39:51the occupied territories to detract or to not allow the full force of the Israeli
- 39:58military to be used against Gaza, and of course pre them. The diplomatic
- 40:02solution is an end of the Zionist war against Garza or genocide in Gaza.
- 40:09Now, what's interesting is that this article in Political came out pretty much at
- 40:15the same time or just after the telegraph US to Hesbla, don't count on
- 40:22us to stop an Israeli attack. Well, that can be translated as we
- 40:27endorse an Israeli attack inside the territory of Lebanon. US officials claiming to prevent
- 40:36a bigger Middle East war are leading an unusual or giving career. I can't
- 40:40read that warning to Hasbella. Don't assume that Washington can stop Israel from attacking
- 40:47you again, that this is all in my opinion, to basically put pressure
- 40:52on hez Billa to end the conflict with the Israeli forces in the northern occupied
- 40:59territory is But if we then look at what they say at the end,
- 41:04it's not clear exactly what options Israel is considering against has Bulal, which is
- 41:08not only heavily on but also wields political influence in Lebanon. This is an
- 41:13important point to make because of course the UK and the US and I believe
- 41:17Canada has designated heads Blara terrorist organization when of course they are part of the
- 41:24political system in Lebanon. Sorry, Can I just go back to that for
- 41:29one second? Okay, yes, sorry, sorry mate? Yeah. Joint
- 41:35Chiefs Chair General C Q. Brown has also had a warning for Israel if
- 41:40a broader conflict erupts for in Israel, and it may be more difficult for
- 41:45the US to help defend Israel compared with the April thirteenth missile verige from Iran.
- 41:51That's because hes Blara is geographically closer than Iran, but it's actually bordering
- 41:55the occupied territories and therefore an attack requires a much short a response term.
- 42:00And Hasbla also has considerably more rockets and more sophisticated rockets than Hamas. And
- 42:07of course we know that the IOF has so far failed to even dent the
- 42:14Hamas operations in Gaza. So then if we look at the fact that also
- 42:20various resistance factions in the region, including Iraqi leaders about to support host Bloro
- 42:25for war is waged against Lebanon. Iraqiya i'll Hauk leader shaik Ka Kazzali threatened
- 42:34the US and stated that if they support Israel's attack on Lebanon, then all
- 42:38US interests in Iraq and the region will be a target. Similarly, a
- 42:42spokesman of the Iraqi resistance factions responsible for firing during sports Israel announce that they
- 42:49are today operating from Afar. If a war happens in Lebanon, they will
- 42:52go to Lebanon and use all available weapons at their disposal. And as I've
- 42:57mentioned before, Syria is currently supplying weapons to the resistance actions in the region,
- 43:04will of course then also be drawn directly into the conflict. Now,
- 43:08these were two reports, one from the Classified UK and one from Hretz back
- 43:14in late October twenty twenty three, so only a few weeks after the October
- 43:19seven US military is secretly supplying weapons for Israel using the UK based on Cypress.
- 43:24Just to give some context there, Cyprus gained its independence from Britain in
- 43:30nineteen sixty. Britain retained control of what it calls its sovereign Bases two hundred
- 43:37and fifty six square kilometers. It's one of its largest military bases outside the
- 43:44UK. Cypress also has an Operational Support Unit which provides support to the British
- 43:51forces to protect UK strategic interest. And so basically, let's come back to
- 43:59this, the US moving arms in Israel from around Europe using Britain's air base
- 44:05on Cyprus, but the Ministry of Defense refuses to tell declassified what American aircraft
- 44:10are flying or what weapons are on board. And at the same time,
- 44:15Harez was also pointing out that Cyprus was being used as a launchpad for weapons
- 44:21and forces to be brought into not only Israel, but as it states,
- 44:27Lebanon has also seen the arrival of special flights from the US, British,
- 44:31Canadian, German, Spanish, Dutch, and Italian air forces, so a
- 44:36fair amount of native member states in there. Some of these landed at a
- 44:39Lebanese Army Special Forces based near Tripoli, which is in the north of Lebanon,
- 44:45in an apparent attempt to prepare a forward operating base in case a mass
- 44:49rescue of their citizens from Lebanon is required due to a full blown war between
- 44:54Israel and Hezblac. Now bear in mind this was back in early November.
- 45:00Choice of location also indicates an assessment that in such a war, Bayertz International
- 45:05Airport will not be used. Does that seem a little bit prescient to you?
- 45:08So let's have a look at where this forward base is being established.
- 45:13Is in the north, in Tripoli, and we know from previous news reports
- 45:16and research by myself particularly that British intelligence have been operating heavily and Tripoli and
- 45:23setting up units there, establishing infiltration into Lebanese security, intelligence and military,
- 45:31but particularly in Tripoli. So is this a forward base on the basis that
- 45:37if a war kicks off between Israel and Hezbala, then NATO gets involved.
- 45:44This again was from Almyadin. A long history of military cooperation between Cypress and
- 45:49Israel. It's reported regionally that Mossad has very close relations with Cypress intelligence.
- 45:55Why is this all kicking off now? Because said Nasralla, the general or
- 46:00secretary general of Hezbollah has actually worn Cypress, specifically that opening its airports and
- 46:07bases to the enemy Israel to yet Lebanon's means that it has become part of
- 46:16the war and essentially becomes a target for the resistance actions. Now in May
- 46:22twenty twenty three and May and June twenty twenty three, there were joint Israeli
- 46:28Cypriot military jills. Actually, what do I say staging an invasion of Lebanon.
- 46:37So Cyprus Cypress did allow its territory, not only the sovereign basis which
- 46:42can be claimed to be British, but it did use its own territory external
- 46:47to those bases. In response to the warning Cypriot President Nichols Crystal duluids so
- 46:55sorry, I've just murdered that said on ex Cypress does not participate and conflicts
- 47:00and this part of the solution, not part of the problem. But at
- 47:05the same time Israel was eyeing a port in Cyprus. Back in March,
- 47:08israel I am disclosed Israel's plan to purchase support in Cypress under the pretext of
- 47:14establishing an alternative supply route in case the Islamic resistance in Lebanon targets the port
- 47:21of Haifa. So we are looking now at a potential of real escalation between
- 47:28NATO member states and the regional resistance in my opinion, Yes, okay,
- 47:35thank you. Now let's move on to Ukraine. And on Monday, Brian
- 47:38just briefly mentioned the attack in Sevastopoul. But let's have a look at this
- 47:44a little bit more detail. Now, this is the Telegraphs coverage of a
- 47:46crime in some bit are struck by deadly shrapnel. We'll look at the video
- 47:51clip in a second, and Vanessma viill of a comment to make about whether
- 47:53it's or maybe Charles, about whether it's shrapnel or not. This was CNN's
- 47:59coverage at least five dead after missile fragments scattered over beachcores in Russian occupied Crimea.
- 48:06So let's just have a look at Sorry, I do apologize, I've
- 48:09a bit trigger happy there with my finger. Let's have Yeah, we're having
- 48:16trouble today. Let's go back one and try again. Okay, you will
- 48:21see these things coming down, and Charles, I don't know that that looks
- 48:24more like just shrapnel. That looks like explosions taking place. It does absolutely
- 48:32Mike, Yeah, it's very hard to believe that it would be fragments.
- 48:38I mean, suppose is a detonation in sort of well, I mean,
- 48:45it's hard to see how that could be a detonation that would result in fragments
- 48:49landing exactly like that. So I don't see that's credible at all. Thank
- 48:54you. So basically this looks like a cluster munition that's been used. But
- 48:59let's bring Matthew Miller on from the State Department. You've seen this a couple
- 49:01of times already, so apologies for that. I'll just tell you what the
- 49:06ambassador said when she met with the Russian Foreign Ministry, and that is,
- 49:07of course that we lament any civilian loss of life in this war. Yet,
- 49:14well we believe him there, don't we. We provide weapons to Ukraine,
- 49:17he said, so it can defend its sovereign territory against armed aggression.
- 49:22He went on to say that includes in Crimea, which of course is part
- 49:24of Ukraine, and Russia should stop. Russia could stop this war today and
- 49:30end the suffering caused by the war in Russia about the war Russia launched today,
- 49:34if it would stop its occupation of sovereign Ukrainian territory and stop launching attacks
- 49:39on civilians. He went on to say, I don't have any assessment of
- 49:43the underlying attack, including who was responsible for it, but I will say
- 49:46you've seen Russia make ridiculous claims about responsibility in the past. It's not unusual
- 49:52for the government of Moscow to make ridiculous, hyperbolic claims about responsibility that aren't
- 49:57born out by any fact. The hypocasi see here is off the charts.
- 50:01But anyway, of course, what he's referring to Russia absolutely clear that that
- 50:06these weapons could not have been fired without US help. They are US supplied
- 50:12weapons, they are cluster munitions. Now in Tas they quote the EU as
- 50:17saying pretty much the same thing. They're saying that there's zero the EU claiming
- 50:22that the zero credibility that the US or was involved in targeting this. The
- 50:29Russians themselves say the use the use of US supplied at a c M S
- 50:35missiles will be discussed at the next regular briefing on Ukraine, which will be
- 50:40held in July, as we do every month. But vastly in Besnia ne
- 50:45Benzia here saying you know, they are absolutely claiming that this These are US
- 50:50supplied and therefore US targeted weapons systems. So this is from Italy particular report
- 51:00and we'll do a quick translation on what it says here. So the headline
- 51:02is Russian attribution. Sorry, Russian attrition continues. Italy is right to talk
- 51:07about negotiations. But actually in this article it quotes an Italian military expert and
- 51:15director of a particular organization that's qualified in these areas. I won't try to
- 51:21pronounce the name. I'm sorry, you'll have to look in the article to
- 51:23see that. And this person is quoted as saying the use of these weapons
- 51:29involves extensive US technical support. They're used with himar's launchers and the attack is
- 51:34brought forward by a drone flying over the Black Sea. Drones take off from
- 51:37the Sicilian base at Sigonella and act as scouts and missile guidance. And he
- 51:44went on to say the US may have redeployed them from Greece. However,
- 51:46their main headquarters is in Italy and Sigonella. Their long range strategic reconnaissance drones
- 51:52called Global Hawk. So that's what's in the Italian media. In the meantime.
- 51:58Here is the United nations position on this from the UN Human Rights Office,
- 52:04Elizabeth Throstle here saying well, cluster munitions are not se prohibited prohibited under
- 52:08international humanitarian law. It is the consistent position of the UN Human Rights Office
- 52:14that their use in populated areas is incompatible with fundamental principles of international humanitarian law.
- 52:20And I'm going to say thanks to Charles for this, because he sent
- 52:23me through this from the UK Manual on National Rules of Engagement, and it
- 52:28quotes here calling for fire support. UK personnel engaged in multinational operations are able
- 52:32to continue to call for fire support using current procedures, even knowing that support
- 52:37may come from non state parties in the form of cluster munitions. So that's
- 52:42that. And then from CSIS, the Center for Strategic and International Studies making
- 52:46the point that the Cluster Munitions Agreements are signed by one hundred and twenty three
- 52:52nations, came into effect in twenty ten, but that Russia, Ukraine,
- 52:57and the United States have not signed the convention and so perhaps that explains why
- 53:01the Department of Defense Law of War Manual that we talked about last week does
- 53:06authorize the use of cluster munitions, amongst other things now political here reporting that
- 53:12France has deepened ties military ties with Germany and Poland. So another trilateral defense
- 53:17agreement done, this time between France, Germany and Poland. Now, of
- 53:21course the problem here is that there's a snap election be called in France,
- 53:24so we see how that stands up following that. But this follows on from
- 53:30the report we did a couple of weeks ago on military mobility and PESCO and
- 53:34so on, and the fact that a whole raft of European countries twenty two
- 53:39EU member states have signed the agreement on military mobility. And this is all
- 53:44about getting effectively US and British arms and personnel from the west coast of Europe
- 53:51to the east coast in order to do battle with Russia. I say that
- 53:55with tongue in cheek, because they'll get annihilated if they try it. Anyway.
- 54:00In the meantime, the wonderful image to Bretton Gordon has been up to
- 54:04his old tricks again. His headline in the Telegraph once again, We're getting
- 54:07the Telegraph in as many times as possible. Today Puttin's nuclear arsenal is crumbling.
- 54:13Ukraine can take it out for good, is what He's claiming, so
- 54:16therefore we don't need to worry. We can just go ahead and use nuclear
- 54:20weapons against Russia if we choose to do so. But in the meantime,
- 54:24watched Russia's response to this. Well, it is refute revising its nuclear doctrine
- 54:30according to Dimitri Pskov here, as reported by Reuters. So this an extremely
- 54:36dangerous situation. The fact is, this is not an issue which is an
- 54:42election issue as far as I can see at this point, aside from the
- 54:45comments that Faraj Mah have made a few days ago. I think this needs
- 54:50to be an issue for the election, and so I think everybody needs to
- 54:54be getting out there and making it an issue for the election. And that's
- 54:59what I would courage. Okay, where does that take us then, Africa?
- 55:04Charles, Yeah it does, Mike, Yeah, thanks very much.
- 55:08We'll just play a video now while I speak over the top of it.
- 55:12This is from Nairobi, scenes of the last sort of sorry, scenes from
- 55:19the last twenty four hours or so in which there's been no widespread sort of
- 55:25thank you, rioting, looting, call it what you will, in government
- 55:30buildings and essentially this is shown by Al Jazeera, but it's in response to
- 55:36a couple of very controversial pieces of legislation. Now, whilst this focus obviously
- 55:42is on what's happened in the Parliament in Kenya, the lessons really are to
- 55:46be drawn for everybody because it just shows how precarious in a way we all
- 55:52are when sort of legislation like this to put forward. That particularly was concerning
- 55:58the Finance Bill. And we'll just have a look at what the government put
- 56:02out in terms of debt management for the year. So the Treasury and Economic
- 56:07Planning Group put out their medium term debt strategy and they absolutely spelled it out.
- 56:14To be fair to them, the government will continue implementing growth responsive fiscal
- 56:17consolidation through broadening of tax revenue base and rationalization of expenditures in order to reduce
- 56:23the fiscal deficits. It's just worth drawing out there. The public debt they
- 56:28say is at sixty eight point two percent of GDP, whereas at the UK.
- 56:31In the UK, at the the latest statistics from the unsay that we're
- 56:35at ninety eight point three. But nonetheless, the other part of legislation that
- 56:42is in effect much more controversial is the Land Law Amendment Bill, or at
- 56:46least in some respect which I'll just explain the second, and in particular here
- 56:51we see that this clause states that the owner of any freehold land or properties
- 56:57situated within the boundaries of any urban area or city shall pay an annual land
- 57:01levy equivalent to land rent charged on a comparable leasehold land or property of the
- 57:06same size in the same zone. So, obviously that slightly complicated way of
- 57:10saying that it doesn't matter whether you were previously a freeholder to all intense purposes,
- 57:15you are now a leaseholder. And of course that could be something that
- 57:22is taken on by any other administration anywhere in the world. Concurrent with this
- 57:27is a memorandum from the United States designating Kenya as a major non NATO alli
- 57:32of which there are eighteen existing ones. But you might be interested to know
- 57:37what privileges of such an appointment are, particularly in light of the situation not
- 57:43just in the Middle East, but also with Ukraine and Russia, and indeed
- 57:46the sort of worldwide financial situation, so that you're eligible for LANs of material
- 57:52supplies or equipment for cooperative research, development, testing, or evaluation purposes.
- 57:58Critically as a location for the US owned war reserve stockpiles, to be placed
- 58:01on your territory outside of US military facilities. Also, you're eligible to enter
- 58:07into an MoU or formal agreement for the purpose of conducting cooperative research and development
- 58:14projects on defense equipment and munitions. And again, just following Mike's segment,
- 58:20you're eligible for consideration to purchase depleted uranium ammunition. So these might seem slightly
- 58:28disconnected, but in effect we've got protests generated by the increase of a number
- 58:34of taxes, some of which had been scrapped even prior to it going to
- 58:38the House for the final time, and it now requires presidential assent. But
- 58:42that's been enough to tip people into this sort of behavior. Exactly how it's
- 58:46been incited orchestrated doesn't really yet seem clear, but police are reckoned to have
- 58:51shot dead a number of people through the day and indeed through last night,
- 58:55so appalling scenes there. But the the underlying point, of course is that
- 59:01the economic vulnerability of that country and that region, and in particular that the
- 59:07strategic significance, the political and military significance of East Africa and the Horn of
- 59:14Africa, and the interest from both Russia and China, and the United States
- 59:16feeling like it needs to make a countermeasure in order to assert both military and
- 59:22economic control. Is something that we'll have to keep a very close eye on.
- 59:25Yes, indeed, Okay, thank you, Charles, and we're just
- 59:29going to end with this piece of news. So, first of all,
- 59:32this is the National Crime Agency press release on the so called Leader of Lockbit,
- 59:38which is a cybercrime gang. Cybercrime gang, they run these sort of
- 59:46ransomware attacks on various organizations we've been talking about over the last couple of weeks,
- 59:52and well why am I mentioning this. Well, they are claiming on
- 59:54their channels that they have managed to hack the Federal Reserve Bank, that they
- 1:00:00have obtained thirty three terabytes of data from the Federal Reserve Bank, and that
- 1:00:04they're going to publish it unless the Federal Reserve pays up in bitcoin. So
- 1:00:09we'll be watching this story as it develops and see whether they do actually publish
- 1:00:14this data. But once again, we have the biggest organizations on the planet
- 1:00:21absolutely unable to protect themselves from this type of activity. Of course, the
- 1:00:25National Crime Agency attempting to draw connections between these guys and the Russian government and
- 1:00:35putin in particular, because we shouldn't miss the type of opportunity to draw these
- 1:00:38types of connections and make sure that Putin is getting the blame for everything.
- 1:00:43But nonetheless, we will watch this story and if that data is published,
- 1:00:47we'll let you know, but we'll leave it there for today. I'm going
- 1:00:51to say thank you very much to Vanessa and Charles for joining us today and
- 1:00:54everybody that's watched. Stick around a few UK column member for some extra in
- 1:01:00a couple of minutes. But if you're not a member and you'd like to
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