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Iran The Great Game w/ Igor Lopatonok |EP672 · The Big Mig Show

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  You got a great interview backstage.
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  It's Igor Lapotonic. I hope I got that right.
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  Of course I've got. Yeah, I got it right.
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  OK, close enough. He's back there cueing me on.
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  Now. If you guys remember, we had
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  Simona Mangianti Papadopoulos on the show for the Hunter Biden
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  documentary. She was great.
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  And of course, that is Igor's documentary.
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  Let's bring him in, George. And I'm going to give his bio
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  wife in here. I don't want to leave him
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  backstage any longer than I have to all.
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  Right. Welcome to the big, big show,
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  Igor. I'm not going to pronounce your
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  name until I hear you fully say it.
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  Hello, Igor. That's OK.
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  Thank you for having me. Nice to meet you guys.
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  Yeah, and of course, Igor is an internationally recognized
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  Ukrainian American film director and producer, celebrated for his
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  bull documentary films and of course tackle geopolitical and
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  historical subjects. He's got a career spanning 2
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  decades and has built a reputation for compelling
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  storytelling and technical innovation in cinema.
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  Widely known for his collaboration with Oscar winning
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  film maker Oliver Stone. You know, we had Oliver Stone's
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  son on the show. Eager.
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  I don't know if you knew that or not.
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  He's brought an alternative perspective on global events to
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  international audiences. Documentaries have achieved
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  worldwide distribution and critical attention.
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  Of course, they positioned him as a leading voice in
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  politically charged, history driven film making.
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  So Igor, man, there's a lot of people around you that we seem
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  to know. Of course, Simona is one of our
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  close friends. George Papadopoulos, close
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  friend. Transform also my close friend
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  because we we finished with him Big 6 episodes of all the
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  President's Men doco series, what is available on the Tucker
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  Castle network and many others. Yeah, that's a great
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  documentary. I've seen it.
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  You know, of course you've been doing some amazing work.
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  But let's, let's go back a little bit.
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  What you know, I don't know when you became a film maker, you've
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  been in for two decades at least on the politically driven film
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  making. But were you always interested
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  in filming with this start early in childhood?
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  Where does the where does the whole story with Igor becoming a
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  film guy start? Oh, I I started studying rocket
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  science after that. Go to the big business.
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  Go and work for government, make good money in the big business
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  business. And in 2005 I was so bored about
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  that making the money because it's actually pointless
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  occupation. So I decided to switch to the
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  movie making from the scratch. I have no degree in the movie
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  making. And so far as 59 successfully
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  accomplished projects, we start doing both equipment cameras, we
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  start renting them TV series, advertisement, commercial music
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  video films, films for TV, films for the big screen and 2008.
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  Look, the son asked me what I'm doing in Ukraine and said I'm
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  doing movie look, it's obvious that no bullshit, there is no
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  movies in Ukraine. You need to move US in LA.
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  So I I did as advised and Los Angeles also was welcoming
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  place. I did a lot of movies related to
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  restoration and colorization of black and white famous solid
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  films and after that in to do couple of features.
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  In 2013, I met Oliver Stone and I was successfully with locking
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  him for my project as a producer, executive producer.
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  And he forced me to direct Ukrainian Fire, what is my so
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  far biggest movie. I, I probably can say 600
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  million audience around the world and still fresh, still,
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  still gaining interest. That's a good achievement.
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  And he forced me to direct and I was not a director.
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  I'm not ready for that. He said, OK, you're passionate
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  about Ukraine, you know more than 10 times so you're going to
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  do I will help and he helped a lot.
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  And from this time until now, he helping me the movie what we
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  were gonna talking about the Iran the great game when I
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  screened it to Oliver, he said, oh, come on, dude, I expected
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  something better from you. What a mess you did.
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  So nobody gonna buy it not gonna nobody gonna distribute nobody
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  gonna see that you need to do that that and this because this
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  is a mistakes You said, oh, you got your bad student.
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  You don't study anything from 12 years.
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  But no, he just, he just keep caring about me, keep teaching
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  me. That's a very big deal for me.
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  And yeah, I did ask. He advised the movie increase
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  the value. It's better than before.
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  So this is that my short short buyer.
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  Well, that's, you know, that's an incredible critique.
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  First of all, that Oliver Stone has that kind of confidence in
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  you #1 cause of course he's a great film maker, had so many
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  incredible films. But it's also got to be a tough
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  blow when the when your mentor says this, this, I expected
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  better of you. Yeah, of course.
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  Every time. Every time, yeah.
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  That's got to be pretty tricky, but let let's back up for a
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  minute. Let's talk about some of the
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  stuff that you did complete. So colorizing these old the 13
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  different Soviet era films, including old men and are going
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  to battle. You did a lot of the the
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  classics, at least for the the the Russians.
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  How many languages do you speak, Igor?
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  I speak 3 languages. I speak Russian, bad English and
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  Ukrainian. Betting.
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  I speak I'm. From I'm from Ford and Road in
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  the Bronx. George and I speak bad English
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  also, just so you know. We also.
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  Speak. I'm apologizing about my accent,
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  but I believe that American, American love the accent because
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  it's making like, you know, but the English less boring.
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  Yeah. There's no doubt, although the
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  guys in New York, we all have our, you know, we have the, the
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  New Yorkers do have our own accent.
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  And of course, the Southerners, a lot of people, when I've
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  travelled around the globe, people, you know, even when I
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  think that I don't have much of A New York accent anymore, they
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  immediately recognize the New York acts.
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  And of course, New Yorkers are a different breed, not like the
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  ones now. Let me say this.
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  I'm talking about the older New Yorkers, not these current New
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  Yorkers that I don't understand at all.
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  I don't know what the hell happened in New York.
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  But I was fascinated when I find out that's a 150 dialects in
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  English and that's that's so big, so big, so different.
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  Yeah, it's, it's funny. Well, you know, of course George
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  grew up in New Jersey and New Jersey and New York, and I grew
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  up in New York, Fordham Rd. in the Bronx and later Westchester
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  County. And of course we have our own
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  slang and lingo. But, you know, I think it's true
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  of every, you know, this course, it doesn't matter whether you're
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  Ukrainian or otherwise. Everybody has kind of their own
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  slangs they use that people are used to that isn't necessarily
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  translated well if you're actually studying a language.
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  You also did 3D effects to The Nutcracker.
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  That's 2010. But let me let's dig in here for
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  a minute. I want to talk about Ukraine on
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  fire. That's a that's.
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  That's a major film for you, so maybe give the audience for the
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  people out there that don't know much about that film, maybe kind
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  of describe what it's about and then the follow up film also, I
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  think. That's very that's very good
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  movie to understand where and why war in Ukraine raging now.
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  So you start with Ukraine on fire because everybody the
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  mainstream narrative is completely wrong about Ukraine
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  and as as a Ukrainian himself to give to Americans a historical
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  perspective of everything what's happened in Ukraine in 2014 and
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  before, because all my starting in the coup in Kiev in 2014.
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  That's an anatomy of this coup and the attempt to present to
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  audience alternative to mainstream version of events
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  with a very high flying politicians commenting,
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  especially ex president of Ukraine Viktor Yanukovych who
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  was on Iran to Moscow and the President of Russia Vladimir
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  Putin. That's what Oliver interview
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  both and give to film very unique insights from the people
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  who was involved in decision making about everything what's
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  happened in Ukraine 2014 and after that we we also did a
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  great analysis with the help of Robert Perry, who was amazing
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  investigative journalist. If you remember Robert Perry, he
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  broke that Iran Contras the case and exposed the CIA importing
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  the drugs and financing the and the trading with Iran and
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  financing the Arabian and the Nicaragua.
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  So this was my mentors in that film.
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  That was my how to say the keystone, the people who
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  understand the situation better and who give that analysis to
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  the audience. And after that we film
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  underground in Ukraine. We cannot stop doing this film.
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  We we do it from November 2013 up to June of 2022 thousand
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  2016. And I understand I cannot finish
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  the movie. I need just to end it.
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  I just need to stop working on this and just release because
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  yeah, because everything was I'm going, I'm going, I'm going
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  just, you know, the coup happened after that Crimea run
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  away after that, that they start war and Donbass after that, that
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  they shut down the plane and it's, you know, always rolling
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  like a snowball and that snowball, especially in the
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  media when they start blaming Russia for everything.
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  Russia do that. Russia do this and I see I say I
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  I I look on this with a yeah with a sense of shock because I
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  know that people is not a good people who is leading protest.
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  I know that people so hypocritical.
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  They killed protesters on the streets of Kiev.
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  They owned guys protesters in the back just to ignite their
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  their appraisal. And it's war.
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  And that's a cold strategy of color revolution, of course.
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  And we analyzed that. We we trace the money in the
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  media. We trace and it's up to audience
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  to decide if we we are applying the position of Victoria Luland
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  and Ambassador Jeffrey Pyatt in this club, how they help, how
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  they finance what the Soros, George Soros done for that so.
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  Let me stop you there for a minute because you're hitting on
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  a lot of topics for our show. Just, you know, nobody's safe on
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  this show, meaning that we go after all sides of the aisle.
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  We don't just blindly follow. George, you'd agree to this.
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  We're not yes men on this show, correct?
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  Oh, I'm definitely not a yes man.
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  I know that I don't yes men to anybody or nobody.
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  Only God. Only God will be a yes men too.
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  God of my savior, Jesus Christ. Yeah, as a as an example, we're
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  still talking about Epstein. We're not happy about what how
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  this administration is treating the Epstein.
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  You know what though? No one else is talking about
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  Epstein since the shutter of the government though.
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  Yeah, they're getting. Very interesting, of course, you
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  know. But Igor, let me ask you this
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  because a lot of people want to know.
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  You know, we've talked about, I was always impressed that Simona
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  was able to interview Dirchak. I thought he was dead.
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  I thought the CIA, he disappeared for a while and I
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  actually thought the CIA had killed him.
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  And I, I worked as a government contractor years ago.
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  I worked for, you know, Blackwater USA and Halliburton
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  and United Defence, the Sabre and lots of others.
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  And I was always aware of the fact that the CIA was definitely
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  entrenched into, you know, lots of things overseas.
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  So let me ask you this. Who's really responsible for
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  what happened in Ukraine? Because we know the narrative's
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  been manipulated. And we know that George Soros,
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  in my opinion, he's an international.
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  Him and his son are international terrorists.
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  I don't think you know, Russia took a strong position on them
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  because they're obviously fully aware of what Soros is up to.
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  Who do you think is really responsible for the chaos and
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  corruption in Ukraine? Because I even to date, and you
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  may not feel like this. I don't know, I feel to date
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  George, you tell me you if you agree or not.
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  I don't know how you feel about this.
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  I feel like Zelensky was just an installed puppet by the CIA.
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  I believe he was it was George. What do you think?
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  Yes. Stop.
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  I don't know if he's an install puppet by the CIA, but he's just
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  in it just for the taking the money.
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  He's corrupted. Could be the CIA, I don't know.
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  You know what, Lance? That's a good one.
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  So I want to ask you. I'm.
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  Going to let you go? I want to ask you.
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  This I have an answer. For you on this show, we've
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  exposed all the money that of course he bought that ski in ski
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  out resort in France. He bought his wife a 4.6 million
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  a dollar Bugatti. He's got the eight and a half
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  million dollar property in Ridgepont, Israel with a bunch
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  of exotic cars for his family members, him and his hench men.
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  They invested 46 million in properties in Switzerland.
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  He's got a $15 million penthouse in Dubai.
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  He's got that mansion down in Miami that everybody tries to
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  hide, but it does exist. I don't know if he sold it now.
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  He had a property in Italy that he sold.
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  And of course, I've been told that he has a exceeding $1.6
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  billion in offshore accounts down in the Caribbean.
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  So you take it from there. That's what I'm aware of.
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  And I've gotten that from what I consider very reliable sources,
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  some of them within the NSA that are friends of mine.
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  So go ahead, take it from there. So who is responsible for that
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  mess? First of all, Ukrainians
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  themselves because corrupted politician and opposition to
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  President Yanukovych who want more, who want money because
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  they know that position of President of Ukraine provide you
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  a place to 5 billion revenue a year.
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  This is how corrupted Ukraine is.
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  They measuring position of president of the state in the
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  amount of money what is give to them.
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  And so first of all it's corrupted politicians in
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  Ukraine. I can call the names, I can call
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  President Poroshenko, I can call the mayor of Kiev Klitschko and
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  I can call neo Nazi leader of party Sloboda who I even just
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  just forget his name. That was the key people, but
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  they were supported and this is very important for us.
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  Who was providing that support. First of all, that was the
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  Embassy of United States and official position of Ambassador
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  Jeffrey Pyatt and Under Secretary of State for European
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  Affairs Victoria Nolan and couple of very, very big medals
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  like on the top was the George Soros as well as the Russian
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  oligarch Berezovsky before. So this is a gang of people who
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  want to helping Democrats because it was very You cannot
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  call Victoria Nolan Democrat. She is a deep state, but she is
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  a bird from the Dick Cheney nest because she started her career
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  as a as a CIA agent, trained in Russian language, spending some
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  time in Russia and understanding the enemy and after that
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  carefully planning and executing plan to diminish the Russia.
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  Why Victoria Nuland have something I believe personal
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  against Russia. You need to study her past.
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  She understand how she is a nurse, it's not real name, not
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  Nolan, but Noodleman and studied her in details.
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  You will understand that Toria the terrible, how they call her
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  in the in the inner circle nurse from the very, very close circle
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  of Dick Cheney, whom you know. And that said a lot of yeah, a
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  lot. I'm not a fan of Dick Cheney.
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  This show is not a fan of Dick Cheney.
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  But I believe no one saying can be a fan of Dick Cheney or
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  Victoria Nolan or George Soros. Because if you see, if you look
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  at these people, you understand you have impersonated evil in
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  front of you. Because covering the actions
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  with very nice rhetoric, they person the goal of personal
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  power disruption. And they don't care about how
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  many, how much blood they're going to spill.
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  They want to pursue their goals. They started with this story,
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  started with the bombing of Yugoslavia, Serbia in 1999 and
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  person that agenda of liberal interventions.
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  So we decided you're doing bad with your people, so we're going
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  to bomb you people for that. This is how bad is started and
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  it's keep going and going and going and unfortunately that's
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  lead us on the edge of abyss of thermonuclear war with Russia.
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  What will be disaster for Russia of course, but will be also
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  killing us and destroying our beautiful planet.
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  This is why I cannot stand the wall of the lie.
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  What is pushing in the in the mind of Americans and others.
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  I try to do something what I can to educate and enlight.
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  And 1st, my tool is a history. You know we're talking about
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  CIA. Exposing is all part of that,
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  right? And you've been, and that's why
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  I'm asking you some of these questions, because if anybody
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  knows, it's probably you because you follow the same model we do.
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  The idea is to put the light on it, to educate people so there's
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  unification and to get the real truth out there.
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  You know, one of the hot topics when we talk about Derkash,
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  right? And we talk about him being
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  indicted by the DOJ. That indictment's still pending,
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  of course, and it's a cover up. In my opinion.
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  It's a major cover up. Ukraine was a major money
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  laundering operation. Even now, many of the weapons
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  that we shipped to Ukraine, stupidly during the Biden
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  administration, those have ended up on the dark web.
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  They've been resold, they've been sold and they've been
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  available to cartels have have taken advantage of that
• 21:51
  opportunity between the mistakes that the US government made and
• 21:55
  leaving all those weapons behind and equipment in Afghanistan.
• 21:59
  Of course, the cartels have been extremely well funded because of
• 22:01
  the human trafficking. But the stories about Ukraine,
• 22:04
  you know, the early on, maybe it was when it first came out, we
• 22:09
  were covering because we had a pretty good source.
• 22:10
  We were covering all the bio labs and what had happened with
• 22:14
  the Department of Defense and how they had funded those bio
• 22:16
  labs all around there. What are your thoughts on
• 22:20
  Burisma, another very hot topic in Ukraine?
• 22:23
  The the the US government, of course, during Biden tried to
• 22:26
  discredit that story. I believe it's factual.
• 22:29
  I believe that many people, including the children of many
• 22:32
  of our government officials benefited from the Burisma money
• 22:36
  and a lots of other things related to that.
• 22:38
  And of course, they did everything they could.
• 22:40
  Biden was very vocal about getting the prosecutor fired.
• 22:44
  He made a big deal about that. What are your thoughts?
• 22:46
  Is Burisma? Are the American people that
• 22:49
  they've been lied to about Burisma?
• 22:51
  I did couple of movies on the top subject.
• 22:53
  The first time I mentioned Burisma in 2019 when Amar film
• 22:57
  revealed in Ukraine when we interviewed Rizola Stone, leader
• 23:01
  of opposition politician in Ukraine, Viktor Madrichuk.
• 23:05
  And when we talk about Burisma and we talk about how Ukrainians
• 23:09
  meddling in the election of 2016 in here in the United States and
• 23:14
  how Biden was firing the prosecutor general shocking in
• 23:18
  Ukraine for for for catching their tail Burisma Brown doing
• 23:24
  going after his son. After that we did we dedicate
• 23:28
  full film to that. We talk about this in the
• 23:32
  Ukraine 30 years of independence when the Simonam and Jiantha
• 23:35
  Serbia as an interviewer and she interviewed a lot of politician
• 23:38
  included of their catch in Ukraine and including of
• 23:41
  President Yushchenko. And in 2024 we released another
• 23:46
  film, what's called Panther's laptop, Requiem for Ukraine.
• 23:50
  Why is Requiem for Ukraine? Because who is suffering this?
• 23:55
  The Biden family made them rich, but the price was paid by
• 24:00
  innocent Ukrainians who was slaughtered for that.
• 24:03
  And This is why dead Biden is family is a criminal gang and I
• 24:08
  believe still need to be prosecuted because as a lesson
• 24:11
  to everybody who is selling the office of presidency of United
• 24:16
  States for money for the small money.
• 24:18
  It's not such a big money comparing to the power what the
• 24:22
  White House possess. That's millions.
• 24:25
  It's just nuts. Nothing but they did it and they
• 24:28
  walk away with that murder. They it's unbelievable how
• 24:34
  reckless that was action and how reckless that actions of this
• 24:38
  family endanger just the regular Americans because we don't
• 24:43
  deserve it. We actually, I strongly believe
• 24:47
  in that. We position it as a strategic
• 24:51
  allies with Russia because Russia was laying Asia and
• 24:54
  Europe, but possess the mental values, values, European values,
• 25:00
  Western values. That's a perfect bridge for us
• 25:03
  to establish understandable communication to China because
• 25:07
  they lay in the Asia. So Russia can be a bridge of
• 25:10
  United States to China. That's a way how we can
• 25:13
  collaborate. Instead of that, we are running
• 25:16
  the proxy war in Ukraine. We still involved in that and
• 25:19
  even I want to say that's when Donald Trump, whom I admire,
• 25:24
  whom I wought 3 times for him and elections here, he still
• 25:30
  trying to position himself. This is not my war, this is
• 25:33
  Biden war. I am OK with that.
• 25:35
  But let's don't forget as a president of United States, he
• 25:39
  is responsible for everything, for every human being living
• 25:42
  here. You know, this is a lack of debt
• 25:44
  responsibility in a Mr. Zelanski position because he don't care
• 25:47
  about Ukrainians. First of all, he is like, you
• 25:50
  know, he's not Ukrainian, he's a Jewish.
• 25:52
  Second, he don't believe in God. Let's provide him money, and
• 25:56
  even the money not only for his pocket and the pockets of
• 25:59
  corrupted Democrats whom he's sending kickbacks back to the
• 26:02
  United States, but for European. Hold that thought.
• 26:07
  I'm going to stop you there. I.
• 26:09
  Caught that too. Let's, George, I'll let you ask
• 26:12
  the question because you, you, you, you popped out.
• 26:14
  I think it's just a second before I did.
• 26:17
  When you just mentioned Ukrainians bring giving
• 26:20
  kickbacks to the United States, well, there's been some
• 26:23
  investigations that that, you know, aid that we were sending
• 26:27
  there was being funneled back even through like Act Blue, one
• 26:32
  of them, I believe going back to kickbacks to politicians.
• 26:36
  So what? What do you have on this?
• 26:38
  And what and what politicians can you name?
• 26:40
  Because we want to hear names, Igor.
• 26:42
  Because at the end of the day, that's what our show is about.
• 26:44
  Just like you, we want to expose the truth.
• 26:46
  Because I agree with you, let me preface this question.
• 26:49
  I think that that that story has been covered up, that Derkash is
• 26:54
  still under indictment because I that makes the DOJ complicit.
• 26:58
  I believe it's the Department of Injustice in many ways.
• 27:00
  I'm not a fan of Pam Bondi. I don't think she's moving
• 27:02
  rapidly enough and I don't think she's doing what she was hired
• 27:06
  to do. In my opinion, which of course,
• 27:08
  I voted for transparency, accountability and consequences.
• 27:12
  The story about Zelensky, here's this guy who who's been known to
• 27:17
  dress up and drag play a piano with his penis supposedly for
• 27:22
  for a comedic effect. And all of a sudden he ends up
• 27:26
  as president of Ukraine. There's lots of dark ties to the
• 27:29
  CIA, The money laundering that has been a talk of topic that's
• 27:33
  come up over and over and over again.
• 27:35
  So give me names. What, what, what?
• 27:38
  Whether the Democrats or Republicans, I don't care.
• 27:39
  You can put them on how many and who?
• 27:42
  Who is getting money as kickbacks?
• 27:44
  Who do you believe anyway? And do you have anything to back
• 27:47
  it up? Any facts?
• 27:49
  Let me let. Me explain you how it's work
• 27:53
  when the Russians trying to invite in Ukraine already start
• 27:58
  invasion in Ukraine on February 22, 2022 Yeah that the landscape
• 28:05
  and his gang cashed out 1,000,000 of bitcoins through
• 28:10
  that money laundering through Iran and United Arab Emirates
• 28:15
  into the United States. Dollar cash in was ready to run
• 28:18
  away because they was afraid they will be like Russian troops
• 28:22
  in Kiev in a few days. So that's how rich they was
• 28:27
  before more than $1 billion in cash was cashed out right on the
• 28:32
  day of invasion. But later later that was a
• 28:38
  scheme what they doing they using that program in Ukraine
• 28:43
  that's called big big construction.
• 28:48
  It's close closest translation like our build better under the
• 28:53
  Biden. What is so they use this program
• 28:57
  to money launder the money and to use this money for first of
• 29:01
  all for promotion and the publicity they own.
• 29:05
  So they paying? Was BlackRock involved?
• 29:08
  At that point, because I know BlackRock has made a bunch of
• 29:10
  deals over in Ukraine, give me a Is BlackRock involved in this?
• 29:14
  I'm very. Precise investigative journalist
• 29:18
  on this subject. I never claim anything what I
• 29:21
  don't have a solid proof as a as a we asked that question to
• 29:26
  Vladimir Putin in 2019. Did Ukrainians meddle an
• 29:30
  American policy? He said for sure, but this is
• 29:32
  not a secret and I cannot say the names because if I will say
• 29:37
  the names, I need to provide the papers.
• 29:39
  So this is what I'm doing. I put the name say allegedly.
• 29:43
  Hold. On you can put.
• 29:45
  Type the names in the chat over to me privately in the chat on
• 29:48
  Zoom and I'll say the names. Yeah, names.
• 29:52
  Names is very obvious because you need to possess some
• 29:56
  intellectual capacity to understand who is benefiting
• 29:59
  from that and who is mostly vocal on that.
• 30:02
  So I can say the names. First of all, George Soros, he's
• 30:06
  having kickbacks because his way of operation was all the time
• 30:11
  meddling politics and the money and he was reimbursed for every
• 30:16
  actions what he did to ignite the color revolutions abroad
• 30:21
  from State Department. So George Soros was paid back
• 30:25
  for that. Second names everybody
• 30:27
  politicians who backing up our endless war strategy, starting
• 30:33
  with the Lindsey Graham before that, that was a Senator McCain.
• 30:37
  And after that you can call every parking sorry name of
• 30:40
  people who were mongering who trying to always go much tougher
• 30:45
  and put it let's deliver tomahawk, let's deliver that
• 30:48
  that that's people all the people on the top of the list.
• 30:52
  I'm afraid that list is very big.
• 30:54
  The list is very long because everybody who is benefiting from
• 30:58
  oh, ask, answer the question, ask you this, how do you think
• 31:02
  they did? It did they use Bitcoin?
• 31:04
  Did they use cryptocurrency wallets?
• 31:06
  Did they use cash? We've heard some stories about
• 31:09
  cash that we never were able to validate.
• 31:11
  How do you think that? What was the conduit to pay
• 31:13
  these people? So let's say they wanted to kick
• 31:15
  back money to Lindsey Graham. Did George Soros do it through
• 31:18
  political contributions to Lindsey Graham?
• 31:20
  Or do you think there was a more nefarious pathway?
• 31:23
  Because when it comes to money laundering, you know, having
• 31:26
  worked as a government contractor, of course money
• 31:28
  laundering is a standard operating procedure.
• 31:30
  When you're in these different operations, you have to get the
• 31:32
  money to certain sources. Sometime it turns out to be
• 31:35
  cash. Sometimes it's done through
• 31:36
  different conduits, multinational banks, shell
• 31:40
  companies. What do you think the process
• 31:42
  was? Any concept?
• 31:44
  I know that's some people. Is very open.
• 31:46
  For example, Mike Pompeo, he's taking the bribes from Victor
• 31:51
  Pinchuk, Ukrainian oligarch through his associate company in
• 31:56
  a in a mobile phone. He's receiving just a 1,000,000
• 31:59
  plus something per year. But he not in a position already
• 32:03
  in the government, so he taking this as a current citizen.
• 32:05
  This is no crime in debt cryptocurrency.
• 32:08
  Of. Course and especially if they
• 32:10
  already buried the people they already bankrupted the company.
• 32:13
  It takes what was involved in the initial money laundering
• 32:17
  scheme. So they're using all possible
• 32:20
  things they careful, but Zelensky name continuously
• 32:23
  popping up in other and other kind of how the investigation of
• 32:29
  money laundering and scam. For example, in the Panama paper
• 32:35
  what even that was done by OCCRP who is outlet of Soros in CIA.
• 32:40
  But they they find out that Zelenski also has accounts and
• 32:44
  and and the Bagamas in the whole area.
• 32:47
  That's right. But I believe they much more
• 32:50
  invent inventive in this. I believe they're using crypto
• 32:53
  and they probably using couple of associates that you will
• 32:56
  never see the name of Zelenski. You will never see you see all
• 32:59
  the names what will tell you nothing because this is a cover
• 33:02
  up. This is how money laundering is.
• 33:04
  But the guy who was paid for Zelensky campaign, Igor
• 33:09
  Kolomoisky, he's investigated by FBI in a money laundering of
• 33:14
  more than 800 billions in the United States.
• 33:17
  Can you imagine how that how massive this money laundering
• 33:21
  operation is if this was done even before when Zelensky come
• 33:26
  to power? This is what's happened to to
• 33:29
  the money laundering operations. I believe that FBI have a lot of
• 33:33
  information on this, including the names of American politician
• 33:37
  and I strongly believe that sooner or later question.
• 33:41
  That ashes. I'm going.
• 33:42
  To interrupt you. Have you ever, and I don't know
• 33:45
  if you can say it or not as the our current administration
• 33:49
  through the FBI or even Pam Bondi, has anybody ever
• 33:52
  attempted because you are a a massive Trevor treasure trove of
• 33:57
  information. Has anybody contacted you or
• 34:00
  interviewed you or asked for information for you to kind of
• 34:03
  walk them through things that you can't see on the show?
• 34:06
  Just I was. Contacted on a day of
• 34:08
  inauguration of Biden by two nice agents from FBI knocking at
• 34:12
  my door and start asking the questions about Russian
• 34:14
  influence in United States. I said I'm sorry guys, I know
• 34:18
  little about Russian influence but I know a lot about
• 34:20
  Ukrainian. Take your notes and I start
• 34:23
  saying the American what I know. So yeah, FBI was given, but that
• 34:27
  was under Biden. So that that that information
• 34:30
  probably ended up in some burn bags, my guess based on the way
• 34:34
  they operated. But I'm talking about the
• 34:35
  current administration. I'm talking about Cash Patel,
• 34:39
  Pam Bondi, Dan Bongino supposedly.
• 34:42
  I'm talking about Radcliffe, you know, the people that supposedly
• 34:46
  would be the individuals that would want to get to the bottom
• 34:49
  of this. Have you been, has anybody made
• 34:51
  any attempt to interview you or talk to you?
• 34:54
  No. Answer is no even even I know
• 34:57
  personally Kesh Patel. We interview him for all the
• 35:00
  President's men and I was accused by that not David Korn
• 35:06
  and Rachel Maddow to bribe in Kesh Patel when my company
• 35:10
  American company fully officially openly paid 25K
• 35:14
  compensation for cash time spending an hour set.
• 35:18
  Yeah, hold on for a second. Hold on right there because
• 35:20
  we've got. To take a short commercial
• 35:22
  break. I already went over the break
• 35:23
  because you've got a lot of information and I'm trying to
• 35:26
  get to the bottom. Of course, we hear a lot of
• 35:27
  things from our sources. All right, listen, the big, big
• 35:30
  show is going to take a short break.
• 35:31
  We'll be back with Igor. You don't want to miss any of
• 35:34
  this stuff. We're we're digging in now, so
• 35:36
  you know how that goes. At the end of the day, baby, tip
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  of the spear, George Valentine, myself, Lance Miliacea, and of
• 35:42
  course, Igor coming back at you. I don't want to butcher his
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  name, so I'm going to leave that.
• 35:48
  You're not going to want to miss a minute of this interview.
• 35:50
  We're we're going all in. Stay tuned.
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  We'll be right back. I want those names.
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  Write them. Down.
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  Yeah, we're naming names, baby. We're naming names, all right.
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  So, Lance, that's on you. All right, Igor, what do we got?
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  We need names, dates, places so we can go after and.
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  Listen and let me. Add this to it.
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  Igor what? About the mainstream media, were
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  you able to paper trail any money trails to any of these?
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  Because we've seen it through USAID.
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  How much money got funneled to social media influencers,
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• 42:44
  And that's so dangerous because this is actually on the level of
• 42:48
  warfare. This is a weapon.
• 42:50
  This weapon was designed to fight the war informational war
• 42:55
  as a part of hybrid war in a contemporary contemporary
• 42:59
  warfare and they use it against American people.
• 43:03
  Of course it's a crime. Of course it's have a trails
• 43:06
  because you know, footprints and the snow all time exist.
• 43:10
  Money is not things, money is making footprints.
• 43:14
  So tracing that money is a dangerous things.
• 43:17
  It's not my first goal. My first goal is to make a movie
• 43:21
  and to educate the people. But from time of making this
• 43:26
  films, we see a lot of a lot of hard die hard evidences about
• 43:35
  the criminal actions of people who was involved.
• 43:39
  And what strike me is even more important than the list of
• 43:43
  names, because you know, you already know that names exactly
• 43:48
  same people who was conspiring against President Trump in his
• 43:53
  2016 first term. That's exactly same people who
• 43:57
  organized the war and run the war in Ukraine and who backing
• 44:01
  up Zelanski now. So this is the same gang so that
• 44:05
  the coup in United States and war in Ukraine, that's
• 44:08
  interconnected like that. And this is a big question.
• 44:13
  I think the Americans need to understand that when the names
• 44:19
  look at George Soros, names like Lindsey Graham next, like
• 44:24
  Victoria Noland on the top of that list, and it's a long list.
• 44:28
  I I don't know if we have a time to go through every details,
• 44:32
  every evidence. This is the big, big show.
• 44:34
  You are we make time. We don't, we don't have no.
• 44:37
  Time. Constraints on us, so their
• 44:39
  strategy. Is lying, lying, denying,
• 44:43
  counter attacking, lying again and make it in such a fast pace
• 44:47
  what audience is completely continuously interrupted,
• 44:51
  distracted and the attention of media circle driven from to the
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  different subject. So what you're saying is a.
• 44:59
  Typical politician. We got that.
• 45:02
  Yeah, that's a. Strategy of informational
• 45:06
  operational influence. This is how they do they
• 45:10
  organize in the orchestra information.
• 45:13
  Warfare, of course, controlling the narrative.
• 45:16
  They create a false narrative and then they perpetuate the
• 45:19
  narrative from consistent lying. They always say the best lies
• 45:22
  are those lies that are intertwined with shreds of
• 45:24
  truth. You take a shred of truth, you
• 45:26
  wrap it in a really sophisticated lie, and then you
• 45:29
  market that lie using mainstream media, using paid operatives,
• 45:33
  using the intelligence apparatus, using international
• 45:36
  press, all manipulated and paid for.
• 45:39
  But let's talk about that. I'm going to switch gears with
• 45:42
  you here because I want to talk about Iran, the great game.
• 45:45
  This is your new documentary. You are rewriting the story of
• 45:49
  the US Iran conflict. I know a lot of details about
• 45:52
  that. At the end of the day, I
• 45:55
  understand what's happened in the Middle East, maybe more so
• 45:58
  than others. Let's talk about what you've
• 46:00
  done here because this is a big deal.
• 46:04
  This film is wrapped up. I think it's available now.
• 46:06
  I don't know. Let's talk about why you did
• 46:09
  this and what the real story is behind it and what people can
• 46:12
  expect to find out. What are you exposing in this
• 46:15
  film, first of all? I start making that movie when I
• 46:20
  understand that Donald Trump projected to win election.
• 46:25
  In my mind, this happened in 2023-2024.
• 46:29
  I was already in full gear working on this film.
• 46:33
  And the biggest problem for him and the foreign policy will be
• 46:36
  Ukraine, what we covered pretty much, and Iran, because sooner
• 46:42
  or later they will run him inside of this war.
• 46:46
  What we don't need. And I try to educate American
• 46:49
  people about what has really happened with Iran, why Iranians
• 46:54
  do not trust United States, why we blame Iran for everything bad
• 47:00
  possible, like, you know, making the perfect villain and what is
• 47:04
  the real history behind of that. So I go to Iran.
• 47:08
  It was not so dangerous as I expected before.
• 47:13
  They very, very warm people. They gentle, they the culture is
• 47:17
  so different. It was very hard to penetrate.
• 47:21
  But I did the movies in Asia before the Western Asia is very
• 47:25
  special specific place. So I travelled the country, I
• 47:29
  filmed A tag around filming the Jans province and Isfahan and
• 47:34
  Shiraz and all over Iran, omances.
• 47:39
  And after that I interview people here it is my teacher
• 47:44
  Oliver Stone feels because he know a lot about Alexander the
• 47:48
  Great invasion in Persia in the in late 4 and the Jeffrey Sox
• 47:56
  who know who running the foreign policy of United States about
• 48:01
  Iran. Of course it's Israel.
• 48:03
  And also I speak to a very nice fine English gentleman, Alistair
• 48:09
  Crook, who was a British diplomat and MI 6 for 30 years.
• 48:13
  I was about to say MI 6. The MI 6.
• 48:17
  Very small. Can I ask you a question?
• 48:18
  Was he? Involved in the 1953 CI AM I6
• 48:22
  orchestrated coup, which of course reinstalled the Shah of
• 48:25
  Iran. Was he part of that?
• 48:27
  I don't think so, no. I think that his biggest, his
• 48:32
  biggest achievement was setting up the negotiation first
• 48:39
  negotiation face to face and sitting around the one table
• 48:43
  Hamas people and Mossad people. So this is his achievement, but
• 48:47
  he was, I believe on this time, not already on the MI 6.
• 48:51
  He's not more than diplomacy. He was not involved in a shock
• 48:55
  because it was a little bit early 1953.
• 48:59
  We touched this in my film. By the way, film is available on
• 49:02
  Amazon Prime and everybody who want to see that and also on the
• 49:06
  Salem Salem Now Network. So just hit the button on the
• 49:10
  Amazon Prime Video, hit the Iran the Great Game and you will see
• 49:14
  the film. It's two hours.
• 49:16
  It's take 2 1/2 years to to make it and this is attempt to
• 49:21
  analyse not only current affairs of United States and Iran, what
• 49:28
  is actually rebalancing on the age of war.
• 49:32
  This is a state of affair and but also 5000 years of history
• 49:36
  of Iran and the history why we call it Great game because how
• 49:42
  the great game is played by peril Britain and peril Russia
• 49:46
  on the territory of Asia for access to India.
• 49:50
  That was a very interesting historical subject.
• 49:54
  But as Alistair tell me Igor grand game is over.
• 49:59
  They desperate for one goal they diminish the goal of great game
• 50:02
  to the one goal take off the Trump was surprising me.
• 50:08
  We sitting in Tiger and hotel and and keep saying me so the
• 50:13
  goal of great game in Europe is just one goal take off the Trump
• 50:18
  why because Trump doing something what is not fitting
• 50:23
  that scenario of endless war and I'm this film is education for
• 50:29
  American audience about Iran. Of course, it's impossible to
• 50:32
  tell the story of 5000 years in the in the two hours impossible
• 50:37
  completely, no doubt. Let me hold you there.
• 50:39
  I want. To play the trailer and then
• 50:40
  hold that thought, I want you to come right back in.
• 50:42
  I want the audience to see the trailer so they can get a feel
• 50:45
  for what you're doing here. How long has this been out,
• 50:47
  Lance? Now this.
• 50:51
  Ivor How long has this movie been out?
• 50:54
  Two hours? Little.
• 50:55
  Bit more than two hours? No no.
• 50:56
  When did the movie? 'S released now, it's available
• 50:59
  to be seen now, correct? Yeah, we start where?
• 51:02
  Is in the end of August, so OK end.
• 51:05
  Of August, I know. You gave us the.
• 51:06
  I have the. Full movie.
• 51:07
  Can we put it up on our documentary channel here in
• 51:09
  Mumble? The full movie, no.
• 51:11
  Because we still, we still have the light sensing obligations
• 51:16
  and by the way, we have a. Documentary Channel on Rumble.
• 51:19
  If any of your older documentaries that you've
• 51:21
  already monetized, if you'd like them to be put up there, let us
• 51:23
  know. OK, you can provide.
• 51:25
  Those to George you. Connect with him the documentary
• 51:28
  channel does very well over on rumble.
• 51:29
  We've got lots of documentaries from lots of different experts
• 51:33
  and professionals like yourself all right let's play the let's
• 51:35
  play the trailer George. Let's.
• 51:38
  January 8th. 2020 the. Passenger plane falls.
• 51:43
  From the sky in Tehran, 176 lives lost in seconds.
• 51:48
  But what if? This was only the.
• 51:50
  Spark in a much older fire. To understand why the West fears
• 51:55
  Iran, you must first ask why it tried to remake it.
• 51:58
  Iran third largest. Oil reserve in the world from
• 52:02
  Cyrus the Great. To the War on Terror, from
• 52:05
  ancient empires to modern sanctions, it is a story.
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  No, no, I'm I'm not sure. Well, of course, a lot.
• 52:24
  Of people don't recognize what Iran has been a, a political,
• 52:29
  you know, I think a pawn in the global chess board.
• 52:33
  Of course, a lot of people don't recognize that.
• 52:35
  And then you've made those connections and you start with
• 52:37
  the Downing of that flight, PS752.
• 52:41
  Why did you think that was a great point to bring up as the
• 52:45
  starting point of the film? Why did you pick that flight?
• 52:49
  Because it's a tragedy. First of all, I, I look on the
• 52:51
  making the movie about that flight and what's happened to
• 52:54
  them, why that's fall from the sky, why that's flight was shut
• 52:58
  down by mistake. But as soon as I start digging
• 53:02
  deeper and deeper, I see bigger picture.
• 53:04
  I I keep the plane and explain the story of the plane, but I go
• 53:09
  more concentrate more on the questions of regime change in
• 53:13
  Iran and why it is wrong, why it is dangerous and why it's never
• 53:18
  work or it's work and fire back so badly.
• 53:22
  So we were suffering the consequences of this.
• 53:25
  This was my goal. So goal was making the movie was
• 53:29
  initially to cover the story about, about this innocent plan,
• 53:32
  you know, Ukrainian plan in Iraq, in Iran and the, and the
• 53:37
  Americans killing the Qasem Soleimani and the order of
• 53:41
  President Trump. That was a perfect drama,
• 53:43
  perfect setup for the film. And later I find out I need to
• 53:47
  talk more about the entire that change in the game regime change
• 53:52
  operations in Iran, what we run continuously but from the time
• 53:58
  of 1953 and a little bit early and how Iranians respond what we
• 54:04
  what we grow in their response of region of us as Americans.
• 54:10
  That's a complicated things because first of all, I
• 54:13
  mentioned the culture difference.
• 54:15
  Cultural difference is big. You know, first we Christians,
• 54:18
  they Muslim, second, they have history of 5000 years, different
• 54:24
  invasions, different fights. We have history of 250 years.
• 54:28
  And that's like a spark in the historical on the historical
• 54:32
  timeline from their perspective. And we teaching them how to
• 54:36
  gather themselves. We we know that we call them the
• 54:40
  Theocratics. Even the brightest minds of my
• 54:45
  friends who who helped me to make that movie as my teacher
• 54:49
  Oliver Stone, they calling them theocrats.
• 54:51
  This is not theocratical regime because it is different regime
• 54:55
  and nobody trying to understand, everybody trying to project the
• 54:59
  dominance and it's failing again, again and again.
• 55:02
  The dominance is not the answer for building our position, our
• 55:07
  foreign policy stand on to Iran. We tried for 40 years.
• 55:13
  We never go to the goal. We never got to the goal.
• 55:16
  Now it's again the people advocating for regime change in
• 55:20
  Iran. And you know what's funny, as
• 55:23
  you know, I mentioned Mike Pompeo in previous sections and
• 55:25
  I make I mentioned him again because he taking the money from
• 55:29
  that organization. What was not so long before on a
• 55:33
  terrorist list? Mac advocating for regime
• 55:36
  change. Also John Bolton.
• 55:38
  Wasn't he part of that also? Oh yeah, John Bolton.
• 55:41
  Accidental. This is a professional
• 55:42
  warmonger. He's warmongering at every
• 55:44
  possible France. Yeah, he's also taking the money
• 55:47
  from exactly same people. Yeah, I mean Pareo.
• 55:50
  In Hold on. Yeah, sure.
• 55:51
  I I. Ran the the trailer through
• 55:55
  Premiere Pro and redid it in a different format so I can play
• 55:58
  it now. Yeah, let's go ahead and play it
• 55:59
  right now. George, thanks for doing that,
• 56:00
  buddy. January 8th. 2020 the.
• 56:05
  Passenger plane falls. From the sky in Tehran, 176
• 56:10
  lives lost in seconds. But what if?
• 56:13
  This was only the. Spark in a much older fire.
• 56:17
  To understand why the West fears Iran, you must first ask why it
• 56:21
  tried to remake it. Iran third largest.
• 56:23
  Soil reserve in the world from Cyrus the Great.
• 56:27
  To the War on Terror from ancient empires to.
• 56:39
  Keep doing that to the. Audience, I don't know why it's
• 56:41
  stopping on me. That's too bad that it is.
• 56:44
  All right, well, listen, let's talk about Bolton and Pompeii.
• 56:46
  Of course they were the they they spearheaded that
• 56:49
  assassination of Iranian General Cassini.
• 56:54
  They made a big deal of it. Of course, it was all over the
• 56:56
  press and they were excited about it.
• 56:58
  We always talk about the power of the military industrial
• 57:01
  complex. What do you think the real
• 57:03
  intent of that was? Was that just more moves on the
• 57:06
  imperial chess board or what was that first of?
• 57:09
  All what is the biggest danger with that?
• 57:11
  Because that people know that behavioral pattern of our
• 57:16
  president, they calculate him very well and they sell him the
• 57:20
  idea of killing Qasem Soleimani to make him look bigger than
• 57:26
  Barack Obama killing Osama bin Laden.
• 57:28
  First of all, I believe my Christian believes that killing
• 57:32
  human beings, this is an act of sin.
• 57:36
  So this is wrong. I'm not approve any killings,
• 57:41
  doesn't matter who ordered them, but why and how they sell it.
• 57:46
  And they, they will try to do it again because the same, same
• 57:51
  technology, if it works once, they're going to work again and
• 57:55
  again. So of course, every person, even
• 57:58
  the president of United States have a behavioral pattern.
• 58:01
  If you do that, if you show that to him, he will do this.
• 58:06
  For example, why Zelanski when he was talking to Trump, why
• 58:10
  bring some pictures with him and showing this to the president?
• 58:15
  Because somebody told him to do that.
• 58:18
  Who? Who advised him?
• 58:20
  Because we know that people in intelligence who is working for
• 58:24
  Victoria Nola than others who teaching Zelensky how to impress
• 58:28
  Trump, how to make him unbalance it and how to make him to do
• 58:34
  something what he don't want to do when he pragmatically
• 58:38
  thinking about this. This is a danger of this
• 58:40
  technology. Because as a film makers, as a
• 58:43
  film director, I do exactly same with my audience.
• 58:47
  I first of all ignite an emotion and after that when emotion is
• 58:51
  here, I sell in something like, you know, messaging.
• 58:54
  So this principle, if you hear something about Cambridge
• 59:00
  Analytica, this is just a top of iceberg.
• 59:02
  But before behind that the company named CLS who is a
• 59:08
  masterminds of all informational influence affairs and the
• 59:14
  killing of Qasem Soleimani. For me it's a brilliant example
• 59:19
  how the real President of United States can be wasted and
• 59:23
  manipulated by people who person they own goals.
• 59:28
  I think we saw so. Much of that in the first Trump
• 59:31
  administration. He had lots of people around him
• 59:34
  I did not trust. I didn't like Mike Pompeo from
• 59:37
  the very beginning. He made the hair on the back of
• 59:39
  my neck stand up. I didn't like Bill Barr and so
• 59:43
  many others. Christopher Wray, there was just
• 59:44
  so many individuals around and in the administration.
• 59:48
  Laura Loomer's done a pretty good job of outing them.
• 59:50
  But of course, they did a fantastic job of suppressing
• 59:53
  lots of the information online and, and at that point, a lot of
• 59:56
  things hadn't been exposed. What do you think in in this
• 59:59
  situation? Do you think Trump understands
• 1:00:03
  that he's being sold a bill of goods?
• 1:00:05
  Do you think he's more aware this time?
• 1:00:07
  I believe so. I believe so.
• 1:00:09
  He is much different. His posture, his results in the
• 1:00:13
  second edition is much better than the first.
• 1:00:15
  He's much well prepared and he's surrounded by some people whom I
• 1:00:18
  can trust for example, Tulsi Gabbard or Cash or others and
• 1:00:24
  the people who's talking to to him as well.
• 1:00:26
  I know we interviewed General Flynn for all all the
• 1:00:29
  President's men. I I understand he's a military
• 1:00:32
  guy said this something very interesting.
• 1:00:34
  He said if I will have a gun on me and I will told and have an
• 1:00:39
  order to kill the Putin, I will shot him in the head with no
• 1:00:42
  hesitation. This is how he projects himself
• 1:00:45
  as a military person. So I under command and order,
• 1:00:49
  but that's all people they're advocating for peace because
• 1:00:53
  they understand how bad will the consequences of real hot war of
• 1:00:58
  United States and Russia and why Iran is here because you know
• 1:01:02
  the situation in Iran, I was told by Iranians kind of
• 1:01:06
  influential, influential Iranians.
• 1:01:08
  Igor, we feel much differently now because last three years
• 1:01:12
  changed everything from 2022 when Russia go in the war in
• 1:01:16
  Ukraine. We are strengthening our
• 1:01:18
  relationship with China and Russia dramatically.
• 1:01:21
  So we now feel totally different than we feel before when we were
• 1:01:26
  standing against the United States of powerful player alone.
• 1:01:31
  So Iran, Iran, it will be a key point because the problem is
• 1:01:35
  here that Israel will try to project all possible influence
• 1:01:39
  what Israel developed in the United States.
• 1:01:43
  To lure United. States into the war with Iran
• 1:01:46
  because they cannot run this war on their own, they have not
• 1:01:50
  enough of capacity for this war and they understand there's only
• 1:01:54
  one big danger and they for their territory integrity and to
• 1:01:58
  goals of Israel state as it is now this is Iran.
• 1:02:03
  So This is why that film given to American audience alternative
• 1:02:08
  to mainstream analysis of history of Iran governance and
• 1:02:14
  history of Iran and relationship of Iran to the great power of
• 1:02:19
  the great game. So this I believe not an answer
• 1:02:24
  but just a background education, because if the shit happened and
• 1:02:29
  if we will go on a big war, the consequences for all of us will
• 1:02:33
  be very, very bad. Because we can that war can
• 1:02:36
  distract us from something very important, what we're doing
• 1:02:39
  inside of our country, trying to rebuild and save.
• 1:02:42
  Because believe me or not guys, I was survivor of falling of
• 1:02:46
  Soviet Union. I see same signs.
• 1:02:50
  The money is start losing the value people hate each other,
• 1:02:55
  they divide it the politicians keep ranting and and giving them
• 1:02:59
  different destructions, but overall our country going down
• 1:03:04
  and the thing that is you think you think because they always.
• 1:03:07
  Say 200 years and we're way past that for a superpower.
• 1:03:11
  Do you think that right now the signs you see having lived
• 1:03:14
  through the fall of, you know, the, the, the Russian economy
• 1:03:19
  and the Russian government, do you think we're a superpower in
• 1:03:22
  decline and maybe in fact being $37 trillion in debt, where our
• 1:03:27
  destruction is imminent? We are definitely.
• 1:03:30
  In decline, but did we need to sit and wait and look on this
• 1:03:35
  and try to do nothing No, we need to fight against that.
• 1:03:39
  We need to find where is our mistakes.
• 1:03:41
  We need to fix that because as a Christian, I believe that every
• 1:03:45
  people who praying to God, they will be here and that will be
• 1:03:48
  answer. So we need to find back our idea
• 1:03:52
  because we lost an idea and this is the biggest problem for the
• 1:03:55
  Western civilization. Where is our idea, what we're
• 1:03:57
  doing, why we're living there and let me stop you.
• 1:04:01
  I got to ask. So.
• 1:04:03
  I downloaded another two different trailers, the original
• 1:04:05
  trailer, the one I checked it, it stops on its own.
• 1:04:07
  It's not here. So let me play this, OK?
• 1:04:12
  January. 8th 2020 the. Passenger plane falls.
• 1:04:16
  From the sky in Tehran, 176 lives lost in seconds.
• 1:04:22
  But what if? This was only the.
• 1:04:23
  Spark in a much older fire. To understand why the West fears
• 1:04:28
  Iran, you must first ask why it tried to remake it.
• 1:04:32
  Iran third largest. Soil reserve in the world from
• 1:04:35
  Cyrus the Great. To the War on Terror, from
• 1:04:39
  ancient empires to modern sanctions, it is a story about
• 1:04:43
  power, about memory, about defiance.
• 1:04:47
  Iran is a. Civilization state.
• 1:04:49
  It's at the crossroads of Eurasia.
• 1:04:52
  When it comes to regime change. the United States does not abide
• 1:04:55
  by international law by the will of the people.
• 1:04:58
  What does the world see? When it looks at Iran, a threat
• 1:05:01
  or a nation that is simply refused to kneel, the Parthians
• 1:05:04
  never acceded to Rome. They never gave up when they.
• 1:05:08
  Why the people as evil and good? This is the beginning of
• 1:05:12
  mistake. The great game is over.
• 1:05:19
  This is not just Iran. 'S story it's.
• 1:05:22
  Ours too. All.
• 1:05:30
  Right, see we got it. Got 3 * a charm.
• 1:05:34
  I'm a relentless man. I'm a relentless man.
• 1:05:36
  Yeah, you know, you know I. Got to ask you this course
• 1:05:38
  Netflix has been in the news for what I would consider a grooming
• 1:05:43
  operation. We covered it the other day.
• 1:05:45
  It's incredible the amount of content.
• 1:05:48
  And of course you chose to to release on the Tucker Carlson
• 1:05:52
  network, one of your projects. What do you think the future is
• 1:05:56
  of the for digital platforms? Do you think the future of
• 1:05:59
  documentary, you know, documentary distribution,
• 1:06:03
  especially when it's content like yours, do you think these
• 1:06:05
  alternative platforms are the real solution?
• 1:06:07
  Cause of course suppression is still going on.
• 1:06:09
  And do you think this operation we see of content that seems to
• 1:06:13
  undermine the United States or at least the children of the
• 1:06:17
  United States, whether it's TikTok or it's on Netflix, What
• 1:06:21
  do you think? Do you think that's intentional?
• 1:06:23
  Do you think there's a there's a master plan behind the scenes,
• 1:06:27
  first of all? Netflix it's a Obama platform
• 1:06:31
  because infiltrated into the board by Susan Rice and not even
• 1:06:36
  mentioned on their official website.
• 1:06:38
  But she is in there and she's in position as waiting what should
• 1:06:42
  put what should not. So Netflix, sorry, I'm not
• 1:06:45
  calibrating with Nexus anyhow, I'm a Public Enemy.
• 1:06:48
  I'm a Netflix. So we choose Amazon.
• 1:06:52
  We also on the many others platforms, independent
• 1:06:54
  platforms, I believe the content is a key and a good content
• 1:06:58
  can't find the way to the audience through the different
• 1:07:01
  channels. You know, we was severely
• 1:07:04
  censored on the Ukrainian fire and it's lead only for 600
• 1:07:10
  millions of audience around the world and this is.
• 1:07:13
  How it's work? If you're silencing, if you're
• 1:07:15
  attempting to silence something and people see that they're
• 1:07:19
  gonna do, they're gonna find a way.
• 1:07:21
  So I'm in 2022 when we were silenced in the during the
• 1:07:25
  summer after this few years already on the on the on the on
• 1:07:30
  the show. And it was suddenly we was
• 1:07:33
  killed by YouTube, by Vimeo, by Apple, by everybody.
• 1:07:37
  I give up the copyright for my film and I give it to audience
• 1:07:41
  for free and YouTube and everywhere that people see 3000
• 1:07:45
  different sources of film, it's impossible to penetrate.
• 1:07:50
  We reached like a 6,000,000 on a Rumble for just a few days,
• 1:07:53
  thanks to a CEO of Rumble who give us front page for promoting
• 1:07:58
  our film. And then people who help like
• 1:08:01
  Glenn Greenwald, Oliver and others, they help us to
• 1:08:04
  penetrate this wall of censorship.
• 1:08:07
  So I believe in a good content, telling the truth to the
• 1:08:10
  audience can find a way even in oppressive silencing regime of
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  contemporary media, all big media, it is corporate media
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  that mean they have an agenda. They have they first agenda is a
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  profit. But you know, even my movie was
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  #1 on Apple TV, number one in the documentary on Amazon.
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  And they cancel it because that's something else.
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  What is bigger than money. So they afraid of truth.
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  But audience have a different agenda.
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  Audience want to see the truth. Audience want to see some
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  alternative versions of events and they can find a way to your
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  content. If your content is a great.
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  So my answer that's answer was Hollywood based on content is a
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  key. So good film can find a way to
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  the audience anyway how you censor it And I think you're
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  right. You know what kind of advice is
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  a successful film maker? What kind of advice would you
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  give to the aspiring documentary film makers that are of course
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  looking to tackle complex geopolitical issues, while of
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  voice? What could you tell these
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  younger guys below you that are still trying to do it but
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  haven't had the success you've had?
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  What's what? What's the best strategy?
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  I'll get it. Try to make something real.
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  Forget to make in films. Honestly, try to make it.
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  Try to make it good as the struggle is real.
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  Yes, it is you. Will be struggling.
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  You will be blank, you will be prosecuted, you will be lost
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  your income if you will continue seriously.
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  So try to make it as good as you can and try to be passionate
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  about this and the good content. We'll find out.
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  It has not happened from the from the from the first film.
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  That's that's a long journey. You need to keep buying this
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  lottery ticket making another movie after another movie.
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  And that will that's happened to me on the Ukrainian fire in
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  2016. And after that on the Snowden,
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  what we helped to produce to Oliver Stone, because you
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  mentioned he was a contractor. I also met one contractor, his
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  name Edward, he's reside in Russia now, happy two kids.
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  He take the Russian citizenship, he study language, his wife with
• 1:10:26
  him, He's OK, The guy who served humanity a lot because he tell
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  us that's that people is spying on us without violating the law.
• 1:10:36
  And who was in this? We showed the Clapper.
• 1:10:40
  Ahead of NSA in our film Snowden.
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  There's nothing changed from this time.
• 1:10:45
  The guy is still walking free, not indicted.
• 1:10:47
  I very badly want all of these people on the list.
• 1:10:51
  I I waiting for 9th of October to see Mr. Comedy behind the
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  bar. But is it just the beginning if
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  they all the perpetrators will be not bring it to justice, they
• 1:11:03
  will do it again for sure. There's no doubt you know they.
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  Always say that, of course we compare it to a bartender that
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  steals a drink. He steals that first drink and
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  puts it in his tip jar. He doesn't get caught.
• 1:11:17
  Then the next night it's 2 drinks.
• 1:11:18
  Next night it's 3 drinks. And that bartender eventually
• 1:11:21
  starts paying his rent because he's stolen so much.
• 1:11:24
  And you're right, without without transparency and then
• 1:11:27
  accountability and consequences, they're going to just continue.
• 1:11:31
  They've been empowered to continue The Dirty 51 + 8 911
• 1:11:36
  Seth Rich laptop, their Hunter Byter laptop that you covered so
• 1:11:40
  well, all these things. If you, if you allow these
• 1:11:43
  people to continue, they are they're, they're, you know,
• 1:11:46
  they're empowered by getting away with it.
• 1:11:49
  And, you know, we're disappointed because I had
• 1:11:51
  thought that we were going to see arrests happen much more
• 1:11:53
  rapidly. I think comedy is an example.
• 1:11:57
  I think his attorneys probably pre negotiated knowing how much
• 1:12:01
  serious trouble he's in because what he's being charged for is
• 1:12:03
  minor in comparison to the Russian collusion hoax and his
• 1:12:06
  participation in trying to overthrow the US government.
• 1:12:10
  I wouldn't be surprised if he is working under A5K1 for
• 1:12:15
  cooperation because of course these people have been very
• 1:12:19
  confident because there haven't been any consequences in and and
• 1:12:23
  of course very aggressive about the behavior behind the scenes.
• 1:12:27
  We've seen it, but if you don't start going after them, and that
• 1:12:31
  goes all the way through Congress, we've said it many
• 1:12:33
  times that absolute immunity even in the judiciary is a
• 1:12:36
  problem, right? God is the only one with
• 1:12:38
  absolute immunity, and he doesn't have to ask for it.
• 1:12:41
  When you start looking at things like absolute immunity,
• 1:12:43
  qualified immunity and lifetime appointments, it goes right
• 1:12:46
  through the judiciary, those through our intelligence
• 1:12:48
  organizations, people in the FBI that are guilty of destroying
• 1:12:52
  evidence. We heard about the burn bags.
• 1:12:54
  I'm sure many of them that they found.
• 1:12:56
  There's probably 10 times the amount of information that's
• 1:12:58
  been burned up in cover ups and that includes every branch of
• 1:13:02
  our government. I still don't see that
• 1:13:05
  happening. I don't see those individuals.
• 1:13:06
  Of course, The Dirty 51 + 8. Some of these things are really
• 1:13:10
  low hanging fruit. Go ahead.
• 1:13:12
  What were you going to say? I have a question.
• 1:13:14
  Do you believe that burn bags because I stay like a it's a
• 1:13:18
  like a inside job of people who in the FBI who believe that
• 1:13:22
  justice need to be bigger than that was during that comedy time
• 1:13:26
  and they don't I don't believe it.
• 1:13:28
  I don't believe that those individuals had the burn bags
• 1:13:30
  and they just stopped because normally the documents are
• 1:13:33
  shredded first and then they're put into the burn bags.
• 1:13:36
  I don't believe that somebody took the burn bags, put
• 1:13:38
  documents in. I almost wonder if that wasn't
• 1:13:41
  kind of a manipulation of the narrative.
• 1:13:43
  So I'm not confident that it's true.
• 1:13:45
  I'd have to hear it directly and I'd have to know it directly
• 1:13:48
  from people that I trust. I'm, I'm, I'm unsure.
• 1:13:52
  Here's my problem. I, I think that there's lots of,
• 1:13:55
  for example, Letitia James, if you and I have committed
• 1:13:59
  mortgage fraud, it wouldn't take months and months and months to
• 1:14:01
  indict us. They would look at the
• 1:14:03
  paperwork. They would say Igor lied about
• 1:14:05
  his revenue. Hold on.
• 1:14:06
  We know why they didn't. Do beat.
• 1:14:08
  That's because the the US attorneys for those states
• 1:14:12
  didn't want to do it. Now that they changed them up so
• 1:14:15
  well, it's kind of like Adam. Schiff he's clearly he violated
• 1:14:20
  again mortgage fraud. It's a low hanging fruit case.
• 1:14:23
  And you can always the US government, when it comes to a
• 1:14:25
  person like Igor, they would easily, they indict you and, and
• 1:14:30
  then they tell you, you've got to take a plea or this is going
• 1:14:32
  to happen to you. And you're, you're facing these,
• 1:14:33
  these excessive years. And then here comes the
• 1:14:36
  superseding indictment. Igor, if you don't do this, this
• 1:14:39
  and this, which is extortion, bribery and coercion.
• 1:14:42
  If you don't do this, we're going to supersede the
• 1:14:44
  indictment. And instead of 10 years, you're
• 1:14:46
  going to be looking at 100 years because that's how the charges
• 1:14:50
  stack. It's a standard procedure.
• 1:14:52
  Let's face it, any mathematician would tell you that it's
• 1:14:54
  impossible for the US government to have a 98% conviction rate.
• 1:14:59
  It wouldn't. It doesn't work.
• 1:15:00
  It's and let's face it, are you telling me that the Department
• 1:15:02
  of Justice is the only government department that works
• 1:15:05
  perfectly? That they're so good at their
• 1:15:07
  job that they get all these indictments?
• 1:15:09
  No, it's because they cheat and they lie and they coerce and
• 1:15:13
  they destroy exculpatory evidence and they do many other
• 1:15:15
  things that I could go into details on.
• 1:15:18
  My thing is, is that when you look at that situation and you
• 1:15:21
  really understand the system. I questioned the burn bags.
• 1:15:25
  It seemed very perfect timing because the narrative, everybody
• 1:15:28
  was very angry at Pam Bondi. They were upset that the
• 1:15:31
  indictments were coming. They need redirection.
• 1:15:33
  I still questioned because I worked in operations years ago
• 1:15:37
  that manipulated media very effectively.
• 1:15:41
  Are you familiar with the term economic Jackal?
• 1:15:44
  Yes. Of course.
• 1:15:45
  OK, so I used to do. Overwatch for economic jackals
• 1:15:49
  and at the end of the day, that manipulation of the banking
• 1:15:52
  system and of course they use they use lots of different
• 1:15:55
  systems to make that work. And that's just I.
• 1:15:59
  Want to I want to .1 very important things here what is
• 1:16:03
  what is emerging in this in this mindset, but you establishing
• 1:16:07
  the way of manipulate the media and you start using this against
• 1:16:11
  American citizens and you start using that for manipulate your
• 1:16:16
  own government. So real intelligence is going
• 1:16:20
  into the window. So nobody care about real
• 1:16:23
  intelligence on a battlefield and that foreign, foreign
• 1:16:26
  territory they have manipulated, constructed picture what's
• 1:16:31
  already sold through the media, through the politicians, through
• 1:16:34
  the legislators and they making government start.
• 1:16:38
  So that's exactly perfect situation, situation of wag the
• 1:16:41
  dog because the intelligence community who's supposed to
• 1:16:45
  serve the government now making the government serve the
• 1:16:50
  intelligence community. This is why biggest why biggest
• 1:16:54
  perpetrators sit in an intelligence community.
• 1:16:56
  Why either comedy, Renan Plopper and others.
• 1:17:00
  That's all intelligence has a I can mention only the Admiral
• 1:17:05
  head of NSA who was brave enough to go to Trump and reveal that
• 1:17:09
  you aspire that your your wired up.
• 1:17:12
  Your Trump Tower is wired, so that's a big responsibility as a
• 1:17:17
  citizen of this country. Because if you see the coup, if
• 1:17:21
  you see high treason, you need to raise your voice.
• 1:17:24
  You need to stand against that or that will be unbelievable
• 1:17:28
  consequences. Because we have great power.
• 1:17:30
  We have a lot of power. We have a nuclear warheads, we
• 1:17:33
  have biggest army in the world, we have a biggest military
• 1:17:35
  budget and we have a biggest debt.
• 1:17:37
  What actually only, and it's all making us very dangerous.
• 1:17:43
  This is why I'm making this film about Iran.
• 1:17:45
  It's not about the story for Iranians.
• 1:17:48
  This is a story for us to try to fix some of our mistakes, to
• 1:17:52
  abolish, abolish the method. Or if you're doing the same
• 1:17:56
  things again and again, it's like a sanction in Russia in 19
• 1:17:59
  circles. So sanction in Russia again and
• 1:18:01
  again and again. My friend Pearson Sharp just
• 1:18:04
  come back from Russia and he's showing how sanction is work,
• 1:18:08
  perfect life, clean streets, nice settings.
• 1:18:12
  Russia's amazing. It's.
• 1:18:13
  Beautiful. They've done an incredible job.
• 1:18:15
  I mean, you look at their subways as compared to us.
• 1:18:18
  It's just that's also, that's also.
• 1:18:20
  Impressed myself, Tucker Carlson when he was in Russia in 2024
• 1:18:25
  and he was also and we talked to him to help him to understand
• 1:18:28
  the Russian mentality and to understand Putin.
• 1:18:31
  And this is everybody who see that on their own eyes, they
• 1:18:35
  say, Oh my God, this is so different than really that we
• 1:18:38
  perceive that we practically bring Russia to the Stone Age
• 1:18:41
  with our like a continuous sanctions.
• 1:18:44
  No, no, not even close. And why to use again, same
• 1:18:49
  technique, same old and absolute strategy of dominance against
• 1:18:54
  Iran if we can just we respect today's sovereignty and the
• 1:18:58
  nation and try to understand them and try to deal with them
• 1:19:02
  because we're good on dealing, especially with the President
• 1:19:05
  Trump. We're good at making deals, no
• 1:19:08
  doubt. I think you're right.
• 1:19:10
  Over the target and I'm sure you've been attacked for it just
• 1:19:13
  as we have. Suppression attacks.
• 1:19:16
  That's part of the MO, right? That's part of the modus
• 1:19:19
  operandi. But listen, we're out of time
• 1:19:21
  for today. But listen, we got to have you
• 1:19:22
  back on. I'm sure we could dialogue with
• 1:19:25
  you. I'm, I'm sure George has got
• 1:19:26
  lots and lots of things he'd love to bring up because I can
• 1:19:29
  see him over there. I can see his facial expression.
• 1:19:31
  I want to make. I say we make a.
• 1:19:32
  Documentary, a movie about, you know, all this money coming back
• 1:19:35
  in the United States. Yeah.
• 1:19:38
  Yeah, I, I any. Project you're working on Igar
• 1:19:40
  you're always welcome to use our platform, any of your older
• 1:19:43
  documentaries if you'd like to get them up on our documentary
• 1:19:45
  channel on Rumble Happy to do that.
• 1:19:47
  You can work with George on that.
• 1:19:49
  Where can they go see the new documentary?
• 1:19:52
  Where can they download it? How do they follow you?
• 1:19:55
  This is your shameless plug. Go in all in.
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• 1:20:01
  they they can follow you on social media and how they can
• 1:20:03
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• 1:20:06
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  Or just type my name or type the name of the title around the
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  Great game and you can see it. Yeah, that's great.
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  We appreciate. Do you have a?
• 1:20:27
  Do you have a website? You have your own?
• 1:20:28
  You don't, no. No website so I.
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  Found you. I found your details on IMDb.
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  I've got an old IMDb profile up there.
• 1:20:35
  I used to do some acting years ago, crappy stuff, you know what
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• 1:20:39
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