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Episode 213: Ed K. Cease & Desist, Robert Duvall, and Cursed and Feuded Movies · Drumming Up Conversation

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Yeah, be a friend, tell a friend. So speaking
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of friends, we found out that there is a letter
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given to someone. I was given a cease and desist
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to not be able to use the band name anymore.
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So, Chad Taylor and Frank Mesey and Gene Long.
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We've seen a lot on the places as well. So, it's
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really cool to see that. We kind of had a feeling
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it was going to happen. We had heard some rumblings
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in the community, the close -knit community we
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have. Finally came to fruition. So it's really
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cool. It's a big win for the true life fans that
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know that he said ed K and the tributes so Well
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knowing him he probably will try so we'll probably
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find out pretty soon so It's uh, it's good Hopefully,
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I don't know. I don't know what it means for
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the guys rest of the guys going out and touring
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but Yeah, I'm still getting my wits about me,
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so pardon. But we wanted to talk about that real
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quick. And we also wanted to talk about the actor
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that we lost last week, Robert Duvall. We watched
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Godfather a ton. And he's so good in it. At least.
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As long as it's on HBO or Showtime or wherever
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they're playing it. It usually is. Usually we're
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doing stuff too, which is great. We'll just put
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it on and clean and do work and stuff like that.
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That's funny. You could be in another room and
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just hear a little snippet of it and know what
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movie it is. And know where it's at. Yeah. Yeah.
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Love it. And he's also in your favorite movie.
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Gone In 60 Seconds. And yeah, so he was 93? 95.
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95. Yeah. So, yeah, not bad. And as far as I
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know, he, I don't know what it was last few years,
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but, you know, not too recently he was still
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doing stuff. Did you do the series alone? Some
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dove. He did that, right? Yeah, I think so. I
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never watched it, but it's supposed to be really
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good. Yeah. There's a lot of actors I think that
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were in that. So, and was he in apocalypse now?
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Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Coppola. So, yeah, absolutely.
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Very good actor. Seemed like a really good dude.
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Well, we had Jerry Garcia on the guitarist for,
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oh, I'm sorry, no, just the actor and producer.
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I'm kidding. That is his favorite. Ben and Jerry's
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though, or Ben's or Jerry's. Anyway, yeah, we
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had him on it. He said he was just great. So
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he was really, really nice. Didn't treat anyone
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different than everyone else. Really good dude.
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So it was nice hearing that. And he was a professional
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tango dancer that I don't think a lot of people
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knew. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty cool. That's
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cool. I still feel like I'm not coming through
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as much as I should. Okay. I guess I'm better
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now. I've been trying all these different locations
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with my mic. I also turned your headphones down
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from last week. Okay. Cool. So I could always
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turn those up if you want also, if that helps.
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And then we touched on James Van Der Beek also,
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right? We might have on the podcast we're on
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I don't know if we did on ours Yeah ours because
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we so we did miss a week. I hated doing it I
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didn't even put an episode in during that time.
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I just thinking more people would watch the other
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ones and Because for one we switched our distributor
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Mm -hmm. So this will be our first one with the
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new distributor. I really like it. It's it's
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very Aesthetically pleasing Because you do all
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that and everything. Yeah, so it looks really
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nice I like how it's formatted and I even it
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was even pretty easy to just go back and I took
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the seasons out and just kept it as the episodes
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And it gave me a chance to do that and it was
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it was really quick It looks nice. Yeah, it was
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through j -ro. He told us to check it out. So
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I started researching it and Decided to switch
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them. They made it really easy To switch over
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and we're getting they said a six months free
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thing and then we'll figure it out from there
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after the six months However, which which package
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we're doing or whatever But I really like it
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and I'll look into the ads a little bit more.
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What's wrong? It just says I'm a migrant And
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So yeah, we looked into it and I switched it
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over and they've been really cool about it emailing
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and stuff They said hey, you know, you have an
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existing one and I knew better than to put a
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new podcast on there I needed to just leave it
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alone. And so it was pretty seamless as far as
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I know it's all done and So we'll be doing a
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this episode this next week And then we'll we're
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gonna have a guest on we're doing us on Saturday
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We're gonna have a guest on tomorrow and that
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will be the week after so this will put us two
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weeks out, which is cool But yeah, we didn't
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talk about James Vanderbeek. So really sucks
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because just before Christmas I do were really
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excited. Yeah, I was so super excited. I found
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out that Here I found out that he was going to
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do signed Moxen jerseys moxen jerseys. They were
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$80 with the signature 60 without and Which we
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were sitting there going, who buys the one without
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it? It's the asshole that was just buying the
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one for 60 without the signature. And there hadn't
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been a lot of updates on James at the time. So
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I thought, OK, they have to be custom ordered
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or ordered and then shipped him signed and then
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shipped from there. And that fingers crossed,
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we'll get it. And I guess at the time they were
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ordered, the company knew. that his health wasn't
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great, but they were holding out for... I'd heard
9:34
things that he was getting better. Yeah, which
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happens a lot with cancer. I can attest to that
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with my mom. There are times that you seem like
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you're getting better just before the end, but
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they held out hope that he would be well enough
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to sign them all and get them out. Unfortunately,
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he passed, so we will still get the jersey without
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the signature. which sucks because we had all
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these plans to frame it yeah we're gonna get
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like custom framed and everything there's really
10:03
cool stuff in there because we have a really
10:05
big wall where our tv is in the living room and
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it's just lacking something so we thought this
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will be it this will be our our focal point but
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unfortunately we're just getting the jersey and
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he passed which sucks i'm not worried about the
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jersey as much as that just sucks that he was
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as young as he was 53 yeah yeah six kids Wife
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yeah, yeah a lot of people stepped up for his
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go fund me. There's a lot of controversy with
10:34
it because The Texas ranch that they were living
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on he purchased it just three weeks before he
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died or purchased And people are saying if he
10:46
had money to purchase this ranch. Why does the
10:48
family need money? Why don't they just sell the
10:51
ranch and downsize and what people didn't know
10:54
is that it was Through his name, but a trust
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of friends helped him to secure it so that She
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had a place for her and the kids when he was
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gone just to kind of have to themselves. Yeah,
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and yeah, and people don't people don't realize
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the cost of medical expenses especially when
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sir when they ditched you like they did with
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him. So you didn't have this sad card and all
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that, right? So he had no coverage. So it was
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all out of pocket expense. I mean, we learned
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just from the kid doing her follow -up from the
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mold exposure and everything, thinking that she
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could have possibly have cancer. And just the
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initial exam was $384 because they said she hadn't
11:45
met her insurance deductible. And then the blood
11:48
tests alone, were going to be like 800 bucks
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near a thousand dollars and and that doesn't
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even include any kind of treatment that the doctor
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yeah that's just to get the test yeah so yeah
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um people going through that and then ultimately
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losing that person that those costs are devastating
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yeah and then another actor not so well known
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because he i don't think he did a lot of movies
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he did a lot of tv his name's eric dane he just
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passed yesterday, I think. And he was only like
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52. But ALS just takes you down to nothing. That
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sucks. And same thing, if he wasn't working,
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so no insurance. Grenache, stop looking. So yeah,
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we've been losing actors left and right. Yeah.
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I mean, it's it's gonna happen anyway, just like
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musicians the next 10 years. It's you know, Everyone
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like music as we know it as we grew up for you
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know, 50 years Yeah So it's gonna happen so we'll
12:58
be probably having some episodes of just like
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I mean there's there's a couple really big ones
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that are still with us that gonna Suck when that
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happens. But meanwhile, I think Clint Eastwood's
13:10
plan is to outlive everyone because I think he's
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103, 105? Really? I'm not 100 % positive, but
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I think he's over 100. I don't know if he is
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100 yet. Is Dick Van Dyke still alive? Yes, he
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is. I know he's 100. Oh, that's cool. Oh, Grenache
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baby, come on. Grenache is going crazy right
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now. Oh, I take that back. Clint Eastwood is
13:41
95. Okay, so same age as... Robert Duvall. Yeah.
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I didn't think he was 100 yet. I know Dick Van
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Dyke is and then yeah. Bob Newhart we just lost
13:54
right and he was he hit the 100 mark didn't he?
13:56
I think so. Isn't Feeny getting up there too?
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Feeny's getting up there too. Yeah. He still
14:01
has this what's about him. He's I think he was
14:03
just on like the Boy Meets World podcast over
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recently. Yeah. On Meets World. Yeah that's it.
14:08
Oh and I lost my oldest brother too. Oh yeah.
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But he was only 75. that sucks yeah all right
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i'm sorry 70 77 yeah i have siblings that old
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yeah okay all right well anyway off of that we
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will uh start our actual themed episode so which
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all that gave me time to kind of get my wits
14:34
about me and clear my throat a little bit grosh
14:36
baby you're hitting the microphone so this one
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we Aptly titled cursed movies actor feuds on
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set and I have Robert do all I had just as a
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note but So did you want to go first Okay, so
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I'm doing actor feuds on set first. My first
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one is Tom Hardy and Charlize Theron the Fury
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Road feud Mad Max series. Yeah, I was when they
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like brought it back in the 2000s they had a
15:07
lot of Fuse whatever just from I guess Theron's
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very Meticulous on set I guess It's always on
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time on time. Yeah always ready to go and I guess
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Tom Hardy was the opposite he would show up Late,
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I think one of them said he was like three hours
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late on one of them and Yeah, just it came down
15:35
to work ethics and just the environment I guess
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It was just a crazy environment. It says that
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Theron was a former dancer and disciplined and
15:44
punctual, and Hardy was more of a method oriented
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and frequently tardy. And when I read that, I
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was like, oh, tardy Hardy. Let me make that comment.
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Yeah, I saw that the other day. And I was like,
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oh, that's funny. That's probably too easy. That
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was probably his nickname on set. Probably. And
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probably gave him a complex, and maybe he's better
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now. Yeah, it says he arrived three hours late
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to a morning call leading Theron to angrily swear
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at him and call for a fine That's a lot that's
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a long time on a set it is because when you're
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going 16 hours anyway that puts it at 19 hours
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Think of it that way if that's what they're doing
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and she's Darren had felt so threatened and unsafe
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that she requested a female producer to be on
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set. So Denise Denavi was assigned to mediate
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attention, which that's crazy. I don't think
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I've ever heard of someone requesting to bring
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a female on set just for that. I wonder what
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she felt threatened by. I don't know. It wouldn't
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go much into detail about that. A director said
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that The real -life friction mirrored the journey
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of their characters and kind of helped with the
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tension I guess but and then I guess they finally
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reconciled. It says that Hardy admitted he was
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in over his head and Darren needed a more experienced
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partner than he was at the time and she ignores
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they were both in survival mode and has expressed
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deep respect for Hardy's talent noting that the
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the end of the shoot on civil terms and his piece
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offering Hardy gave Theron a self -portrait painting
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with an inscription that signaled their hard
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one respect and say self -portrait of who though
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him or her yeah so there's quite a few in Hollywood
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that I know of and one of them that my last one
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which I'll probably be the last of everything
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I do is probably the most My first one is the
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Omen and I did not realize how many issues there
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was. Oh, so you're doing the Cursed movie. Oh,
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I'm sorry Oh, you can the feud. I'm sorry. You're
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good Mine's all over the place too. This is kind
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of last minute. It's been busy. It has been very
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busy. Okay my feud and I Totally had forgotten
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this because it is still currently going on and
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it's Blake Lively versus Justin Baldoni now Blake
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Lively is Ryan Reynolds wife she was in that
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movie with Ben Affleck Was it where they're they're
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in Boston, I think they were robbing things yards
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district it'll come to me yes there's something
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justin baldoni i had never heard of him prior
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to this but i guess he's done a lot of tv the
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town the town that was it um so blake lively
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and justin baldoni have a current major legal
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battle going on since filming it ends with us
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in 2024 now it ends with us i've read the book
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i've read the the second book also that is titled
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It Begins With Us. And from what I read, okay,
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from what I read the book, Blake Lively wanted
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to shift the meaning of the book, like the turnaround,
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and she wanted to film it in a different way.
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It involves child abuse, abuse from a partner,
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and reconciliation, and she kind of wanted to
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romanticize the abuse part, which makes absolutely
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no sense. Lawsuits are like alleging sexual harassment
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bullying and a smear campaign Tensions began
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during production when both stars had different
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versions of the movie Blake rewrote parts of
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the script several times and Blake accused Justin
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and his production company of creating a hostile
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work environment and Executing a retaliatory
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campaign against her. So I guess during like
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press junkets they went out and she talked up
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the movie about how she kind of took over and
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rewrote things and made it the way she wanted.
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And he went out and he didn't do much for press
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junkets because he wasn't happy and product.
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She said that he engaged in disturbing and unprofessional
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behaviors such as entering her trailer while
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she was breastfeeding her baby. And then on the
20:39
flip side other people said that she had requested
20:41
him to come to her trailer while she was doing
20:44
that to rewrite scenes so there's all the he
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said she said she said she said she said yeah
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um she said he improvised physical intimacy while
20:56
shooting scenes on the flip side he said that
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she was the one that um Brought in kissing scenes
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at inappropriate times and without even telling
21:08
him prior just as they were filming she initiated
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them She was upset when he asked how much she
21:16
weighed due to scene where he had to lift her
21:18
off the ground his retaliation for his his excuse
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for that I guess not retaliation his excuse for
21:26
that was that he had a bad back I don't know
21:28
if there was prior surgery involved, but he had
21:31
to know how much she weighed to lift her up.
21:34
She thought that was inappropriate. She cried
21:36
to her husband. And then she said that he didn't
21:42
promote her well enough at the press junkets.
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And then he countersued her for $400 million.
21:48
And this is still. going on in court. It's against
21:53
her and Ryan Reynolds. Ryan Reynolds called him
21:57
to their home and physically... You sent them
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to my home? Yeah, physically threatened him.
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And then Blake started taking in all of her famous
22:11
friends to... Threaten Justin thinking that if
22:16
she has all these powerful friends, he'll back
22:18
off. She brought Taylor Swift into the lawsuit
22:21
and apparently Taylor Swift doesn't want to be
22:25
her friend anymore because she said that she
22:27
didn't want to be involved in it She had nothing
22:30
to do with the movie. She hadn't even seen the
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end Filming, you know the end with it when they
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show it to like Casting crew and family and stuff.
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She had never even seen the movie not defending
22:42
Taylor Swift, but I get it She's like why are
22:44
you dragging me into this? But it was a money
22:47
thing and a power thing. She brought in other
22:49
high -profile celebrities Like Hugh Jackman and
22:53
Emily Blunt to verify that she was a nice person,
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which that is irrelevant You have to do that
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exactly if you're not a nice person. Yeah Basically
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she didn't like his script version and didn't
23:04
like the changes that he made and since he isn't
23:07
as well known as her she thought she could just
23:09
push him around and they still have a huge battle
23:12
going on and it sucks because this movie was
23:17
supposed to really promote him into the movie
23:19
scene and you know getting him out of TV and
23:24
the book was great. I will say the book was great
23:28
and if she's She wanted to film it as, like,
23:33
romanticizing abuse. I don't get that. I don't
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get that. Because the book was really, really
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raw. Yeah. It's fine. Yeah, it's funny. People
23:44
romanticize, you know, serial killers, like the
23:46
Ed Gein thing we tried getting through. Right.
23:48
Like, why are we making him to be, like, making
23:51
excuses for what he did? Yeah, he's a really
23:53
nice, soft -spoken guy. Did it sound like that
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at all? It didn't sound like that at all, yeah.
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Didn't do it? Yeah, I don't know why... Charlie
24:00
Hoonam took the character in that. Did someone
24:02
let him do it? Yeah. Shitty director, probably.
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Just let him do it. Let him do it. Don't, yeah.
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We would have watched it otherwise. Yeah, I could
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do it. And I get it. He has an accent because
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I think he's either British or Australian. I
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get covering up the accent, but I don't get the
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soft voice. Yeah, I don't know. It's weird. Anybody
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that's still alive and familiar with the case
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said he was never like that. No, he didn't like
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that at all. It's crazy. All right. All right.
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I will start with a cursed movie. A cursed movie?
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Yep. My first is The Poltergeist Curse. Yeah.
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And it's most enduring. It has some urban legends
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with it and stuff too, but there is some tragedy,
24:51
early deaths of four cast members as well. And
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what's going on with my headphones? Okay. There
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we go. And maybe it's cursed. Maybe it is cursed.
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So the source of the curse is that the production
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invited malevolent spirits by using real human
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skeletons as props during the iconic swimming
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pool scene. Special effects artists reportedly
25:16
used real remains because they were cheaper than
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manufactured. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that's
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crazy. Plastic ones. And the lead actress Jo
25:24
Beth Williams only discovered she had been swimming
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with actual human remains years later When she
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encountered a member of the crew? Well, I mean,
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I don't think they would want to tell them because
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they wouldn't do it They would tear they would
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terrify you and yeah haunted by that for years.
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Yeah and So the key tragedies are Dominique done
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Dana Freeling just five months after the film's
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release the 22 year old actress was murdered
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by her abusive ex -boyfriend in her driveway
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The face of the franchise died at age 12 in 1988,
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four months before Poltergeist 3 was released.
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Her death was caused by cardiac arrest and septic
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shock resulting from a misdiagnosed genital bowel
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obstruction. See that in her face as she got
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older because she started getting really puffy.
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I don't know how they misdiagnosed that. This
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one has to do with some character in Poltergeist
26:25
2, died of stomach cancer at age 60 in 1985 shortly
26:28
after completing his role, but before the film's
26:31
release and that was Julian Beck. Will Sampson,
26:35
Taylor the Shaman in Poltergeist 2, a real -life
26:38
Creek medicine man who reportedly performed an
26:40
exorcism on the set to rid of bad spirits. He
26:43
died a year later in 1987 following a heart -lung
26:45
transplant. and then some more incidents onset
26:50
accident during the first film young actor oliver
26:52
robbins was nearly strangled when the mechanical
26:55
clown toy malfunctioned during his scene still
26:57
steven spielberg had to intervene to save him
27:00
and this is a more of a coincidence thing which
27:03
i don't believe in coincidences but any scene
27:05
from the first movie uh Super Bowl 12 poster
27:08
is visible in Robbie's room Heather O 'Rourke
27:10
died the day after that specific Super Bowl took
27:13
place in 1988 in the same city San Diego where
27:16
the game was played wow and there's a fire did
27:20
they have a future Super Bowl poster um you know
27:26
like we get we can see the Super Bowl Like the
27:30
picture with the Roman numerals on it like the
27:32
year before or two years before it comes out
27:33
It's just something like that just hanging on
27:35
the wall didn't have like the teams or anything
27:36
because I wouldn't know that Yeah, and then the
27:42
last one I have is set fire a major fire broke
27:46
out on the set of poultice three destroying a
27:48
Parking garage set and injuring several crew
27:50
members So it sounds like it continued throughout
27:54
the sequels as well. So yeah So I have the omen
28:01
we start this over again since this was almost
28:05
my first Segment the omen I and I I never knew
28:12
until now all the crazy things that happen on
28:14
that I don't know how I didn't know all this
28:16
because I love that movie One month before filming
28:20
Gregory Peck's son committed suicide. So he had
28:23
already committed to the film And then just one
28:26
month before they started he killed himself.
28:28
So two commits, huh? As Gregory Peck flew from
28:33
the studio to the filming location, his plane
28:37
was struck by lightning. Another one. Then the
28:42
executive producer Mark Neufeld's plane was also
28:46
struck by lightning. The hotel that Neufeld and
28:49
his wife stayed at was bombed by the Irish Republic
28:53
Army. The crew had a small plane to do some aerial
28:57
shots, but at the last moment the plane was given
29:00
to another client. That plane crashed during
29:03
takeoff and killed the entire crew on board.
29:07
Everybody on board died. Yeah. And while filming
29:11
the zoo sequence, the boy playing Damien got
29:14
the bad boon so riled up that an animal handler
29:17
was called in to help. So Yeah, do you remember
29:23
the filming of that? That part in the zoo? They're
29:27
all going crazy. I had no idea that was all caused
29:29
by the little boy. So they called the animal
29:33
handler. The Antichrist. Yeah, they called the
29:35
animal handler in and the next day he was mauled
29:38
by a tiger and killed. Crazy. The creepiest curse
29:42
of the movie happened to special effects supervisor
29:45
John Richardson. His big FX sequence was when
29:49
a character is decapitated with a sheet of glass.
29:53
If, if you remember that part also. We don't
29:56
watch it that long ago. While filming his next
29:59
movie in the Netherlands, he and his assistant
30:02
were involved in a car crash and the assistant
30:06
was decapitated by auto glass. It's rumored.
30:11
flip my age. It's rumored that the accident happened
30:15
near a road sign that said Omen, O -M -M -E -N
30:19
in the Netherlands, 66 .6 kilometers away. And
30:25
that's weird. It's really weird. The initial
30:27
idea for the movie came from an advertising exec
30:30
that told producer Harvey Bernard that a movie
30:33
about the Antichrist would be really cool to
30:36
make, but shouldn't be made because the devil
30:39
wouldn't want it to be made. Crazy. I kind of
30:45
want to rewatch it or reread it. I love that
30:49
movie. My next first movie is The Crow and I
30:56
have to say 1994 because they remade it for some
30:58
reason. Don't know why. It's primarily linked
31:01
to the tragic death of its star Brandon Lee.
31:04
and a series of eerie mishaps that plagued the
31:06
production. Many fans and historians connect
31:09
these events to the Lee family curse following
31:11
the equally mysterious death of his father, Bruce
31:14
Lee, two decades earlier. Which I think the rumor
31:18
is, or what makes the most sense is he took something
31:22
for a headache and never woke up from it, I think
31:24
is the most... The one that they said was probably
31:28
the biggest cause of it was he didn't take stuff
31:31
like that and probably just had a... adverse
31:34
effect to him soon. But the death of Brandon
31:37
Lee on March 31st, 1993, with only eight days
31:41
of filming left. He was fatally shot during a
31:44
scene where his character, Eric Draven, is killed
31:46
by a gang. The technical failure in a previous
31:51
scene used dummy rounds, real bullets with no
31:54
gunpowder. A lead bullet tip from one of these
31:56
rounds became lodged in the barrel of the .44
31:58
Magnum revolver. For the death scene, the gun
32:01
was loaded with blanks, which yeah contain open
32:04
uh been proud of an object when actor michael
32:06
massey fired the force of the blank propelled
32:09
the lodge bullet tip into lee's abdomen he died
32:13
after six hours of emergency surgery at the age
32:16
of 28 just 17 days before he planned a wedding
32:20
with eliza hutton the film was completed using
32:23
body doubles including uh future john witt director
32:26
chad stahelski god too early and early cgi and
32:34
um luckily most of the final scenes were were
32:39
done which is great because we have a majority
32:41
of the movie with him in it that you can see
32:44
and if you want to dive more into like the scenes
32:47
that he wasn't in um there's all that on there
32:49
as well um that's then while his was the most
32:53
famous the set was notorious for other dangerous
32:55
incidents uh massive hurricane or storm destroyed
33:00
several exterior sets early on production. There
33:03
were worker injuries. A carpenter suffered severe
33:06
burns after his crane hit live power lines and
33:10
equipment malfunction. A crew member excellently
33:12
drove a screwdriver through their hand and a
33:14
disgruntled employee reportedly drove a car into
33:16
the production's back lot. And the Lee family
33:20
connection is the legend of the curse often points
33:23
to the bizarre parallels between Brandon and
33:24
Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee died at age 32 and 73, also
33:28
during the production of a film, Enter the Dragon
33:30
and Game of Death, under debated medical circumstances.
33:34
In Bruce Lee's final unfinished film, Game of
33:36
Death, his character is accidentally shot by
33:38
a real bullet on a movie set, the exact tragedy
33:41
that claimed Brandon Lee after his life years
33:43
earlier. I was reading that as I knew you were
33:47
going to do that one. Uh, but I was reading along
33:50
with it and apparently this curse spans like
33:55
generations of their family. And it, it didn't
33:58
really say where it supposedly came from or anything,
34:02
but that's, that's crazy. Yeah. I guess recently,
34:06
um, they just did the forever stamp for Bruce
34:09
Lee, which is cool. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah.
34:12
I have to get some for work. So on a brighter
34:13
note. That'd be cool. Our room is so cold. It's
34:18
making my nose run. I don't know if it's warmer
34:21
on this side or sitting on the other side of
34:23
the room, because that one was closer to the
34:25
window, so I don't know. For sure. It's definitely
34:27
chilly in here. I'm still waking up. Oh yeah,
34:30
me too. Should probably take another half an
34:32
hour or so before we did this, but apologies.
34:35
It is what it is. At least it's an episode. I
34:37
hated not doing an episode. Yeah. My second and
34:41
final cursed film is a movie that no one's even
34:44
heard of because it was never made. It was so
34:47
cursed and the movie is called a toque This film
34:52
was never made because it was so cursed plotline.
34:54
The story is about an Inuit poet who travels
34:58
to Toronto Yeah, who travels to Toronto and has
35:02
several fish out of water experiences. So not
35:05
it wasn't even a horror movie. So Inuits are
35:08
um from Alaska I believe they're like an Indian
35:11
tribe yeah like Eskimo yeah yeah um the first
35:16
man up for the role John Belushi who then died
35:20
of an overdose so then they passed the script
35:24
along to Sam Kenison who then died in a car accident
35:28
ow ow ow after that the script was passed on
35:33
to John Candy who died from a heart attack Still
35:37
not convinced that the story was cursed, they
35:40
sent it on to Chris Farley, who died of an overdose.
35:45
But before he died of an overdose, he sent the
35:48
script over to Phil Hartman, thinking he would
35:51
be interested in it also. Phil Hartman was killed
35:55
by his wife. And I think, yeah, that's all I
36:01
have on it. After that, they decided they would
36:04
never make the movie. How crazy is that? Everybody
36:08
connected to it died. Did you make that on it?
36:14
No, I was gonna make a joke, but it would have
36:17
been dark. Go ahead, make a dark joke. No, I
36:20
was wondering if Phil Hartman gave it to his
36:22
wife to read over, and she's like, don't do this
36:25
movie. And he's like, no, I'm doing this movie.
36:27
And she killed him because he was gonna do it.
36:29
And then killed herself because it was cursed.
36:31
Yeah. That's kind of funny. Actually, okay. Okay.
36:35
All right. I was I wanted to do it in real time
36:38
Probably would have been funnier. It probably
36:39
would have been yeah. I don't know. I love Phil
36:42
Hartman I although I wish all those all of them.
36:44
Yeah, it sucks Yeah, I mean the John Belushi
36:47
one that was gonna happen. Anyway, Chris Farley
36:49
probably too, but Phil Hartman one that sucks
36:52
now Sam Kinnison Was he drunk driving or was
36:56
he hit by it was hit? That was the irony I think
37:00
of it He was like really sober then. I think
37:05
he was a year in even, maybe at that point. And
37:07
yeah, he got killed by, I believe a drunk driver.
37:10
So, yeah. Her right now. You're being a good
37:18
girl. Showing her what she's supposed to do.
37:20
Back to you, Justin. Thanks, Andrea. I thought
37:25
about it too. All right, so my next one is probably
37:30
the most infamous of the cursed movies cursed
37:34
movies the Wizard of Oz And there's some toxic
37:39
conditions urban legends Supernatural stuff Some
37:46
things that after this movie was made they changed
37:48
the practices of how they can do things The first
37:52
one is probably like one of the worst and this
37:55
is the poisoned tin man So the original Tin Man
37:59
buddy Epson was hospitalized in critical condition
38:02
after inhaling aluminum powder used in his makeup.
38:05
He spent two weeks in an oxygen tent and suffered
38:07
lifelong respiratory issues. His replacement
38:10
Jack Haley also suffered a severe eye infection
38:12
from the redesigned makeup paste. Burning Witch,
38:23
Margaret Hamilton, the Wicked Witch, suffered
38:25
second and third degree burns to her face and
38:28
hands with a trapdoor malfunction during a fiery
38:30
exit scene. Her green makeup, which contained
38:33
toxic copper, had to be removed with rubbing
38:35
alcohol while her nerves were exposed to prevent
38:37
permanent disfigurement. Oh, God. Aspesto Snow,
38:43
which didn't we hear about that? Was this on
38:44
Jeopardy? Yes, it was. Because I said potato
38:49
flakes. Yeah, no, it was asbestos. The magical
38:52
snow and the poppy field scene was actually 100
38:55
% pure crystallite asbestos The cast including
38:59
Judy Garland spent hours inhaling the carcinogenic
39:03
fibers my god, I'm usually really good at these
39:07
Birds is hard. Oh my god, and I'm just having
39:10
coffee. This is supposed to be helping the Exploding
39:14
broomstick Hamilton stunt double Betty Danko
39:16
was severely injured when a pipe designed to
39:19
emit smoke from her broomstick exploded She suffered
39:22
a deep leg gash and internal damage that required
39:24
a hysterectomy. Oh my god. And I did, I never
39:30
heard this. And then there's the treatment of
39:32
Judy Garland. Studio executives placed 16 year
39:35
old Garland on a strict diet of black coffee
39:37
and cigarettes and provided pills, amphetamines
39:40
to keep her awake and sleeping pills to help
39:42
her rest. There's some debunked urban legends.
39:47
Then again, I've heard Some of this is true as
39:50
well and they probably say it's debunked because
39:51
they don't want any more heat on this. The Hanging
39:54
Munchkin. A persistent rumor claims a munchkin
39:56
actor committed suicide on set and is visible
39:59
in the background as the trio follows the yellow
40:01
brick road. Historians have debunked this identifying
40:04
the movie shadow as a large bird likely a crane
40:06
or emu borrowed from the LA Zoo. An emu in a
40:11
tree? the munchkin misbehavior while reports
40:21
of rowdy behavior by some actors playing munchkins
40:23
exist claims of organized sexual harassment toward
40:26
garland have been contested by historians is
40:29
exaggerated or false even if exaggerated that
40:33
means there's something right and what weren't
40:36
the munchkins like treated horribly also um I
40:40
I heard it was a little bit but what's that other
40:42
movie freaks where they were treated really bad
40:44
freaks freaks was weird too I'm not sure on that
40:48
one. I think some of them were in that as well.
40:51
Yeah. Um, Oh my God. I couldn't imagine having
40:54
an accident so severe that I needed a hysterectomy.
40:58
That's just wild. Yeah. He's crazy. All right.
41:03
What do you got? Okay. So, um, I'm back to the
41:07
feuds, few eds, few eds. Um, and I only have
41:11
the one left. Um, and it's tippy Hedren versus
41:15
Alfred Hitchcock. Tippie alleged severe sexual
41:19
harassment, obsession, and professional sabotage.
41:24
Hitchcock discovered Hedren in 1961 when she
41:27
was a model, and he signed her to a five -year
41:29
contract, grooming her to be a Hitchcock blondie.
41:33
And that's weird. That's how the movie industry
41:39
was ran. long ago where if someone was discovered
41:43
they were instantly signed to so many movies
41:47
yeah it's crazy and i don't think they do that
41:50
anymore at all i think every actor has control
41:52
of um it depends i mean unless it's like a franchise
41:57
movie yeah exactly um well like ralph machio
42:01
when he did karate kid um they they had told
42:06
him like you know there was something in the
42:08
contract i think that said if there's sequels
42:10
you have to be this contract binds you to stop
42:15
anything else you're working on and do the sequel
42:16
and stuff like that I believe so that's why he
42:19
did one two and then why he did the performance
42:21
he did in three because he just didn't want to
42:23
do that anymore which he was unhappy with and
42:26
I think now he really regrets being like that
42:29
because there's so many great trilogies out there
42:33
and honestly the third one is the worst one but
42:36
in my opinion I think it's the best one for the
42:38
villains For sure. Yeah. I mean, the Cobra Kai
42:42
series wouldn't have gone as long as it did if
42:43
it wasn't for the third one, but he wasn't great
42:47
in it. And you can just tell. But yeah, so I
42:49
think that was one of those. Yeah. So Hitchcock
42:53
became obsessed and controlling with Tippi. At
42:57
one point, he forced himself on her in a limo
43:00
and demanded that she touch him. Touch him there.
43:07
And Hitchcock forced her to shoot the attic scene
43:10
in the birds where she was attacked by birds
43:13
for five days. He was locked in the room. Yes.
43:17
And she was told that they were going to be mechanical
43:20
birds. They weren't. They were real birds. And
43:24
it left her physically injured and psychologically
43:28
traumatized because That whole scene, she's getting
43:32
attacked by birds. They're pecking at her arms,
43:34
her feet, her face. They were scratching her.
43:38
And those screams are all real. And he insisted
43:43
that no one on set touch her or disturbed her
43:49
or not manipulated, but monopolized her time.
43:54
And he grew insanely jealous over any male attention
43:58
on her. After she rejected his advances, he installed
44:04
a door from his office to her dressing room so
44:06
he could walk in on her whenever he wanted to.
44:10
After shooting her last movie with him, Marnie,
44:15
he refused to let her out of her contract and
44:19
prevented her from working with other directors.
44:22
And just to take it one step further, to traumatize
44:26
her. He gifted six -year -old Melanie Griffith
44:29
a wax figure of her mother in a coffin. That's
44:34
how twisted he was. And what is she doing these
44:37
days? Melanie Griffith? No. Tippy Hedren? She
44:42
runs a big cat sanctuary in California. What
44:46
do cats not like or what do they like to eat?
44:49
Birds. Yep. That'll tell you everything you need
44:51
to know right there. All right. My last feud
44:58
on set is probably my favorite. Awesome. Richard
45:02
Dreyfuss and Robert Shaw and Jaws. You can see
45:07
this in the movie. Oh, yeah. The times where
45:09
he's like, I can't take this abuse much longer
45:12
is totally just him being done working with Robert
45:16
Shaw. So the onset friction, Shaw was a classically
45:21
trained hard drinking Old pro who often viewed
45:24
the younger talkative dry fist as a young punk
45:27
needed to be taken down a notch I could start
45:30
no Uh, there's the firehose incident one of their
45:33
most ugly confrontations occurred after dry fished
45:35
through sha's drink overboard in an attempt to
45:38
help him stay sober Which will not help either.
45:41
No one did that to me. I'd kill him. Yeah No,
45:43
i'm just kidding sha retaliated by spraying dry
45:45
fist in the face with a firehose while he was
45:47
acting Oh that had to hurt so bad Spielberg often
45:53
acted as a mediator, though he later admitted
45:55
the real -life tension between the actors added
45:57
a layer of raw, authentic energy to their characters,
46:00
Quint and Hoopa. Hoopa! Which I think makes the
46:04
movie, especially that the shark wasn't seen
46:07
so much and that was great too, but just their
46:10
friction and Roy Scheider kind of you could tell
46:16
was uncomfortable in some moments too with it.
46:21
I think that's one another reason the movie's
46:24
so great is because of that. Mutual respect and
46:29
legacy and admiring greatness despite their bickering
46:32
Dreyfus has repeatedly stated he was blown away
46:35
by Shaw's performance especially the USS Indianapolis
46:38
monologue. That's one of the best scenes in any
46:42
movie in movie history. That explanation. I love
46:46
the part where, you know, Dreyfus has actually
46:49
given him shit or Hooper's given him shit before
46:51
he starts telling the story or whatever. And
46:53
he's like, then he says that it was the Indianapolis
46:56
and you see Dreyfus just go, you were on the
46:58
Indianapolis and just the whole thing. It's just
47:01
such a great scene. How he ends it, how many
47:04
were in the water and how many can hump. I'm
47:07
saying, yeah, I will never use a life preserver.
47:12
You know, he'd rather have just sunk and whatever.
47:15
dealt with it. In recent years, Dreyfus has downplayed
47:19
the feud label, describing it as more of a competitive
47:22
love -hate dynamic where they challenge each
47:24
other to be better. And there's a Broadway play
47:29
co -written by and starring Robert Shaw's son
47:31
Ian Shaw depicts the legendary tension on the
47:34
set of Jaws. Dreyfus expressed that he was hurt
47:36
by his portrayal in the play, maintaining that
47:41
the severity of their conflict was exaggerated.
47:46
And I went a little bit deeper with this and
47:48
found key improvising character -driven moments.
47:52
The mocking mimicry. During an intense exchange
47:55
on the Orca Dry Fist, used a mocking pirate voice,
47:59
Aye, aye, sir, aye, Jim Boy. And AWC Phil's impression
48:03
to vent his characters and his own frustration
48:05
with Shaw's constant belittling, which I just
48:08
spoke of, where he's like, I can't take this
48:10
abuse much longer. That was another one. The
48:13
knot tying challenge, Shaw's quint frequently
48:17
pushed city hands Hooper to prove himself and
48:19
once seen, Quint forces Hooper to tie a knot.
48:22
Dreyfus' character threw the rope back in Shaw's
48:24
face in a show of defiance that reflected their
48:26
off -camera dynamic. The monologue of the Indianapolis,
48:31
while not strictly improvised on the spot, Shaw,
48:34
a published playwright, Completely rewrote the
48:36
speech overnight to make it leaner and more haunting
48:39
and the genuine on Dreyfus's face during that
48:42
Final take was a real reaction to Shaw's masterful
48:44
performance. It's it probably makes the movie.
48:46
Oh, it does. Absolutely The Mary Lee ad -lib,
48:51
which is the broken heart Mary Lee while on the
48:55
dock a spontaneous addition meant to needle chief
48:58
Brody's wife and establish quince abrasive persona
49:01
and the physical provocation. Shaw often tried
49:04
to go Dreyfus into dangerous physical stunts,
49:07
like jumping off the orca's mast. When Dreyfus
49:10
refused, the resulting glares and tensions were
49:12
often captured on film as authentic character
49:15
mistrust. And yeah, that's all I have for...
49:19
And you know, Richard Dreyfus is hard to... Work
49:24
with I know I was I was expecting to find more
49:27
about him and a couple others Did you come across
49:31
any of his family? Uh -uh issues his kids won't
49:35
even talk to him. Oh, really? They said he was
49:38
he was a horrible father and yeah, they yeah,
49:41
they they're feuding with him currently They
49:44
won't even speak with them. Yeah, I guess he's
49:46
just a really difficult person But I thought
49:50
I would find because I started diving in like
49:52
director actors and stuff to us like you did
49:54
with Hitchcock and Hedren And I was expecting
49:57
to find like stuff with Val Kilmer and all that.
49:59
It's it's crazy There was not much on there and
50:01
everyone says that I that was just I'm being
50:05
a perfectionist and They said he was always great
50:08
with the other actors Tom Cruise has nothing
50:09
but great things to say about him on Top Gun
50:12
And yeah, so I was expecting to find a lot more
50:16
of that I found other stuff but And we could
50:19
have covered the outsiders because the director...
50:27
Oh my God. Coppola? Trying to... No, I've had
50:30
a loss for words. Francis Ford Coppola? No, he
50:32
purposely... That's what I was trying to get.
50:34
He purposely... Separated the Stoshas and the
50:38
outsiders. Or the greasers. The greasers had
50:41
to stay in a basement during filming. That's
50:44
crazy. purposely did that that's why like see
50:49
thomas howell and rob low and ralph machio and
50:53
all them are still good friends because of it
50:55
actually so whereas rip patrick um who was the
51:01
main social what was his name he is he still
51:03
with us and the main section uh that's off the
51:09
top i can't really zane was one wasn't he no
51:11
no i thought he was who were all the socias Diane
51:17
Lane. She was kind of in the middle. It's the
51:20
female. Yeah. So shh. Keep talking. I'll look
51:25
it up. Okay. Oh, did you want to talk about the
51:28
Jennifer Grey, Patrick Swayze thing since we
51:31
probably won't touch on it, but. Yeah. And it
51:34
was hard to find specifics on them, but they
51:38
didn't get along. Leif Garrett. Leif Garrett,
51:43
that's right. Who else? Oh, that Darren Dalton.
51:47
Yeah. Tom Waits. Oh, that's right. Yeah. What
51:51
a cast. Do you ever listen to any of his music?
51:55
I don't know if I know any of his music. But
51:57
isn't Matt always talking about him? Yeah. Okay.
51:59
Yeah. I do it just because Matt suggested and
52:01
Matt's usually pretty good. Yeah. What a fucking
52:03
cast. Oh my God. Yeah. See Thomas Hell, Matt
52:07
Dillon, Ralph Macchio, Patrick Swayze, Rob Lowe,
52:09
Emilio Estevez, Tom Cruise. Glenwith Row, Diane
52:12
Lane, god. Leif Garrett. Murderers Row. No, I
52:16
mean, how many of them still have careers? Yeah,
52:20
not Leif Garrett. No. Well, I heard he was very,
52:23
very, very difficult. So, Emilio Estevez, I think,
52:27
is doing more directing, but. I think so. And
52:29
C. Thomas Howell, I believe, too. Dylan doing
52:31
these days. I think he's still doing, I think
52:34
he's going to be in something big coming up,
52:36
actually. Oh, he's playing Rocky's dad, or Sylvester
52:40
Stallone's dad in that documentary thing, whatever,
52:44
where I am Rocky or something, I think it's called.
52:47
Yeah, I think he's going to play his dad. That's
52:49
what I think I just recently read. Let's see.
52:51
You know, I had just clicked on it. So let's
52:54
find out. I finally saw an article about Pat
53:00
McAfee that he's going to be on Tulsa King and
53:04
that Ari Gold, I think is it what's to make him
53:12
the next Sylvester Stallone? Yeah, that'd be
53:14
so awesome I can't wait to see him in it. I just
53:18
think it's hilarious that all those people were
53:20
like you can't believe it You he didn't take
53:22
that four million dollar contract He was offered
53:24
him just retired and like he's gonna in four
53:26
or five years. He's not gonna be anything He's
53:30
don't shit on someone cuz now he's got two middle
53:34
fingers pointed right back at you going. Oh,
53:36
yeah What do you think about that? Saved college
53:38
game day. He's great in wrestling, which I'm
53:42
still waiting for him to come back to that and
53:43
do his six month stent. Yeah. Yeah. And now he's
53:49
going to be in a TV hit TV show. I'm excited
53:52
about that. I can't wait to see it. Good for
53:54
him. Yeah, absolutely. Hunter. Just a good guy
53:58
that just hit it big. Yeah. I mean. There's so
54:05
many rumors about how charitable him and his
54:07
wife are that people have no idea and yet Well,
54:11
he's essentially self -made like he had no help
54:14
doing what he's doing now his parents weren't
54:16
well, it was just himself Yeah Well, I mean just
54:18
the show after after it football like he pretty
54:21
much invested what he made in football to what
54:23
he's doing now Yeah, and there's there's no chance.
54:26
He didn't know if it was gonna be successful.
54:27
He was just him And then everyone just started
54:30
wanting to be on his show and the way he talks
54:32
and you know Just let's everyone else be themselves
54:35
on it, too. He is You know and people harassed
54:39
he has online all the time. Yeah telling her
54:42
he's a bad husband a bad father and Bad because
54:46
they know Exactly. Yeah, cuz they're jealous.
54:49
Yeah, and it's and she struggled so much with
54:52
infertility and You just, you don't need all
54:56
that stress on top of everything else when they
54:59
just, they just want to have a family and be
55:03
just regular people. They just happen to be famous.
55:06
Yeah. And there's so many people that just are
55:11
against that, but anybody can make it. You just
55:15
have to want it and you have to execute it. Yeah.
55:18
Just like when we lived in San Luis Obispo, so
55:22
many people hated Alex Madonna. but didn't know
55:25
in the background he was paying for hospital
55:28
bills for sick children and doing so many other
55:32
good things that people didn't know about. But
55:34
people hated him because he had money, you know?
55:37
Just jealous. Especially with the people that
55:40
did it on their own, for the most part. Because
55:43
they're like, well, how come I can't have that?
55:45
Why can't you? That's your problem. Just like
55:48
the two Pauls, like I have no prob. I don't even
55:52
say I get what people have. white people hate
55:54
them they're just they're jealous because they
55:57
were they did they were early on in the youtube
56:01
thing and just stuck with it and you know if
56:07
you hate them then why does he have millions
56:09
and millions of views on things and all that
56:10
then who's watching these if all these people
56:12
hate him exactly you're watching you're watching
56:14
it so go fuck yourself don't watch it then yeah
56:17
yeah yeah if i don't like something i don't watch
56:19
it you know i guess what i'd change the channel
56:23
or i i'd stop watching the video or you don't
56:25
read it yeah whatever yeah so i don't need to
56:29
go i'm gonna watch it because i hate this guy
56:31
i'm gonna waste waste my time yeah i'm gonna
56:35
waste the one thing i cannot get back my time
56:37
by watching something i hate and despise and
56:39
i'm jealous of and then make horrible comment.
56:42
Yeah. Yeah. I'll show them. Yeah, I'll show them.
56:44
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's doing a frog splash
56:47
off the top ropes. I'll show him. Yeah. Yeah.
56:50
Okay. And again, I'm so excited about the Gina
56:53
Carano run the rally. And that being put on by
56:57
Jake Paul by his company. Yeah. That's awesome.
57:00
And Jake Paul's fiance just won gold medal in
57:04
the Olympics. And she broke a record. So they're
57:06
gonna get married now. Yep. Because that was
57:09
that was stipulation on the um that she was gonna
57:12
call american follow her dreams and he wasn't
57:15
gonna stand in her way and then once she's once
57:17
gold and does what she wants to do then she's
57:19
they're gonna get married and i think she's gonna
57:20
come move out here do something out here yeah
57:23
so good for them yeah i mean i could see her
57:26
doing like a um a training like having training
57:30
facility and getting the next crop of olympians
57:32
in there or something you know something like
57:34
that and yeah i guess uh jake just had uh another
57:39
surgery on his jaw. Oh, geez. He said it's because
57:43
he wasn't supposed to be like talking and doing
57:45
things during this time. And he's like, oops.
57:48
Well, yeah. And he flew out to watch Ahuta in
57:51
her Olympic run, too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he
57:54
cried in the stands when she won. He bawled like
57:56
a baby. But we've seen from the TV show. He's
58:00
very emotional. He's more of the crier. Yeah.
58:03
Yeah. Yeah. So hey, good for him. It's cool.
58:05
So hate him all you want. But You know what?
58:08
You're just jealous. That's all it is. It's jealousy.
58:10
It's because, well, he didn't come from money
58:12
and this and that and he made themselves and
58:14
why can't I do that? So do it. We're doing this.
58:20
We know our numbers and stuff like that, but
58:22
we're always just trying to get better and better
58:23
and eventually we'll hit our stride and we're
58:26
just going to keep working at it. Working at
58:28
it and working at it until we get to the level
58:32
we want to get to. and we have fun we have fun
58:34
doing it anyway any any guests we've had like
58:37
they're just so much fun like i those are my
58:40
my favorite episodes when we have guests on just
58:42
because we're learning something new and having
58:45
fun with it and you know just it's making making
58:49
me better as a conversationalist i would not
58:53
today not today you know what though if we had
58:56
a guest on for some reason been on yeah i just
59:00
yeah we haven't done this in a couple weeks and
59:02
we've had a lot going on and february it's just
59:06
been oh my god next week's not going to be much
59:09
better than oh i know because we have the pouring
59:13
on thursday and then well then tomorrow we have
59:16
a guest song which that'll be fun which will
59:18
be nice because we'll have to do one next week
59:19
yeah um and then you have the pouring and then
59:23
we have to get ready for the event saturday for
59:25
the wrestling event because apparently the last
59:28
one was a big hit for my birthday and people
59:30
like oh this that was fun it was more fun than
59:32
i thought it was fun like yeah we just hang out
59:34
have drinks this one's more regular time so Um,
59:39
and this one will actually cook more because
59:41
it's in chicago. So yeah, we're not doing something
59:44
crazy a lot of it We can just open it up pretty
59:47
much and present it correctly and we're good.
59:49
Uh, but yeah, we're cooking a little actually
59:51
might even be cooking less Because last time
59:54
we cooked five pizzas. So like Yeah, that was
59:57
quite a bit of time. This one's just some hot
59:59
dogs. Yeah, but I did promise karen a cheesecake.
1:00:02
So that's all I can't bake. I'm a terrible baker.
1:00:05
That's not the baker the baker I'm Enzo. I'm
1:00:09
Enzo, the baker, the baker. I'm here for your
1:00:12
father, your father. We love the Godfather. Anyway,
1:00:19
I've gotten better at talking as we've gone on,
1:00:22
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1:00:25
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