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BONUS: Wired To Hunt’s Rut Radio 11/2/16 · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hey everyone, this is Mark Kenyon of Wired to Hunt
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  Speaker 1: and you're listening to the third episode of our bonus
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  Speaker 1: mini series Rut Radio. And with me today is Wired
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  Speaker 1: Hunt contributor Spencer new Heart and Spencer for those who
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  Speaker 1: maybe didn't catch the first two episodes, can you give
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  Speaker 1: us a cliff notes version of what we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be doing here today this podcast? So this time you're
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  Speaker 1: just dying to hear reports from other hunters, whether it
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  Speaker 1: comes through Facebook posts or text messages or what have you,
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  Speaker 1: and this podcast is going to be doing just that.
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  Speaker 1: So I will talk to guys from across White Tail
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  Speaker 1: Nation to get an idea about the deer activity in
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  Speaker 1: their neck of the woods, but more specifically the buck activity.
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  Speaker 1: And so I think we as hunters can then use
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  Speaker 1: that information to confirm or deny what we're seeing and
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  Speaker 1: help us make better decisions, like, you know, if we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be hunting a morning or an evening, what stand
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna be in, you know, if we're gonna be
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  Speaker 1: calling that hunt. Basically, just how aggressive we should be
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  Speaker 1: based on what others are seeing and what they think
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  Speaker 1: the rut activity has been lately, and hopefully in each
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  Speaker 1: episode with the diverse area and diverse group of hunters
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  Speaker 1: that we talked to, will uncover some information that's relevant
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  Speaker 1: and useful to you. Perfect, Yes, so, especially this time
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  Speaker 1: of year with the rut, you know, especially right now
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  Speaker 1: about to really take off. As you know, things change
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  Speaker 1: so quickly every day, let alone every week. So so yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think so far we've been getting really good feedback
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  Speaker 1: on this, and I'm excited to hear what's on tap
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  Speaker 1: for this week's show. But I guess, first, Spencer, how
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  Speaker 1: how are things been looking for you? What's your rut
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  Speaker 1: reports so far? So what I've been seeing is a
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  Speaker 1: lot of one and a half and two and a
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  Speaker 1: half year old bucks out you know, chasing those around.
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  Speaker 1: But those bigger bucks for me still at least you know,
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  Speaker 1: have their wits about them. And we're probably still a
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  Speaker 1: week away from you know, all the deer losing their
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  Speaker 1: mind and the rut really kicking off. And it kind
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  Speaker 1: of agrees with what we heard this week. However, there's
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  Speaker 1: still tons of big deer hit in the ground. You
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  Speaker 1: can't open up any social media without seeing, you know,
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  Speaker 1: somebody holding antler in their hand. And but that's late
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  Speaker 1: October for you. If you've got a buck, you know,
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  Speaker 1: on a pretty good pattern. This would be an amazing
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  Speaker 1: time year to catch him in daylight. If not, if
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  Speaker 1: you're waiting for random dear to show up, I think
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  Speaker 1: we're still a little bit away from, you know, that
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  Speaker 1: bit of the rut. Yeah, as as of right now,
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  Speaker 1: we are on the eve of November when we're actually talking,
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  Speaker 1: and gosh, that's gonna be. It's gonna be a beautiful day.
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  Speaker 1: Sweet November is here. So i gotta say, what I've
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  Speaker 1: been seeing isn't two different than what you just mentioned
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  Speaker 1: to Um. You know, I have seen my buck that
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  Speaker 1: I'm after here in Michigan holy Field two more times
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  Speaker 1: kind of cruising, and um, I did see a three
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  Speaker 1: and a half reel chasing last night. But otherwise it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of slowed down a little bit from what it
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  Speaker 1: was last week for whatever reason, Like we talked about,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of hit a pocket of great activity, but
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  Speaker 1: kind of tapered back down here these last two days.
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  Speaker 1: So I'm excited for the coming days. Hopefully well get
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  Speaker 1: some coal or weather and that will get him get
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  Speaker 1: him moving again. Yeah, you know, everybody said the deer
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  Speaker 1: activity is is pretty good right now, but they all
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  Speaker 1: agree that it's only going to get better. Um and
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  Speaker 1: at this point a cold front would just be gravy. Yeah. Interesting.
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  Speaker 1: Well that said, then I guess who who are we
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  Speaker 1: talking to and what states are recovering today? Well, we
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  Speaker 1: start off in southern Oklahoma with Clay Forest of Stewart
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  Speaker 1: Ranch Outfitters, and then we have Tony Peterson who joined
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  Speaker 1: us a couple weeks ago from bow Hunter Magazine and
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  Speaker 1: he's covering Minnesota and Wisconsin. And then we have Jason
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  Speaker 1: Reid of Pushing the Wild Limits in New York. And
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  Speaker 1: then we have Clinton Fawcett in Illinois with bow Hunter
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  Speaker 1: Die and then we end with another familiar voice of
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  Speaker 1: Josh Honeycut of real tree dot Com in Kentucky. Excellent. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I'm interested to see what they have to say and
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  Speaker 1: is there anything else we need to cover before we
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  Speaker 1: just get right into these interviews? Uh No, I'm excited
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  Speaker 1: for you guys here this week's report. So I think
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  Speaker 1: we higged the first one in Oklahoma. All right, well,
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  Speaker 1: let's get to it and until next week, Spencer, good
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  Speaker 1: luck hunting you two and happy November. Same to you.
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  Speaker 1: and joining us on the line first is Clay Forest
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  Speaker 1: of Stewart Ranch Outfitters Stewart Ranches in southern Oklahoma and
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  Speaker 1: Clay as a manager there, so he's got tons of
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  Speaker 1: insight on what's going on in that area. And Clay,
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  Speaker 1: what would you say on a scale of one to ten,
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  Speaker 1: the bucket activity has been there lately? Uh? Scale one
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  Speaker 1: of ten as far as buck activities, probably from a
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  Speaker 1: rut standpoint, is probably like a tour or three at
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  Speaker 1: this point of something you're right now and so you're
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  Speaker 1: basing that off of sightings or what your clients are
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  Speaker 1: telling you or Chel came activity. What do you see
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  Speaker 1: in there? Um? That's based off moore of decidings, uh,
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  Speaker 1: glassing and that sort of thing getting around as far
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  Speaker 1: to be myself and my guys, and then also from
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  Speaker 1: clients being in the sand the last two and a
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  Speaker 1: half weeks, sure, and what would you say is causing
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  Speaker 1: it to be a two or three right now. And
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  Speaker 1: would you say that's typical for this time of year
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  Speaker 1: to have such a lack of buck activity. Uh, No, sir,
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  Speaker 1: definitely not typical at all. Uh, this time year going
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  Speaker 1: into the first October, we probably are excusing me first
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  Speaker 1: of November, we we should be probably more like a
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  Speaker 1: six or seven a lot of pre rut type of actions.
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  Speaker 1: We're experiencing some abnormally high temperatures right now in southern Oklahoma.
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  Speaker 1: Just for example, today it's supposed to be a high night. Um,
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  Speaker 1: and so I really think that's shutting down a lot
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  Speaker 1: of what we should be seeing right now as far
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  Speaker 1: as a pre rut activity is just I think due
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  Speaker 1: to a weather weather situation when it's as hot as
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  Speaker 1: it is right now. What is then your strategy for
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  Speaker 1: forgetting them at your buck on the ground? Is there
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  Speaker 1: a good way to go about doing it? Do you
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  Speaker 1: get closer to their beds? Do you focus on water,
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  Speaker 1: certain food source? You know? Like, what have you been
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  Speaker 1: doing this last week or so? Uh, We've just kind
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  Speaker 1: of been concentrating on on food sources. We've really just
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  Speaker 1: kind of stuck to what our early season tactics are.
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  Speaker 1: We're really just mainly hunting food horses right now, and
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  Speaker 1: for us that's that's feeders or we've got to winter
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  Speaker 1: wheats in this area. So we're hunting a lot of
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  Speaker 1: travel areas going into uh their main foods horse right now,
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  Speaker 1: which is is winter wheat. Um. So really just kind
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  Speaker 1: of sticking to our early season, early season tactics. We
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  Speaker 1: haven't really switched gears to the rut type tactic or
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  Speaker 1: anything to that nature. So was that heat wave killed
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  Speaker 1: some typical deer sign that you would be seeing right now,
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  Speaker 1: maybe some rubs and scrapes. Um, Honestly, I don't think so.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're we're really starting to see the rub
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  Speaker 1: and scrape activity pick up. I just don't And this
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  Speaker 1: is just my opinion. There's no scientific anything behind it.
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  Speaker 1: It's just I think it's so hot, they're just not
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  Speaker 1: really wanting to push yet. Some of the younger deer
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  Speaker 1: our nose and does around it feeders. But just last
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  Speaker 1: week I watched eight and a half year old dear
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  Speaker 1: to look at the dough and put his head right
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  Speaker 1: back down at a right back down to what he
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  Speaker 1: was eating. So I had no attention to her whatsoever. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So I really think it's just the heat. I mean
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  Speaker 1: they they act rut or their body I think wants
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  Speaker 1: to rut, but they just aren't doing it. I mean
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  Speaker 1: the maturityer that we're getting on the ground there. Their
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  Speaker 1: tarsos are black and their next sharting to swell, and
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  Speaker 1: you know it's just, uh, it's just hot. And I
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  Speaker 1: think that's what's causing the black activity from a from
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  Speaker 1: a rut standpoint, right. And so then going forward in
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  Speaker 1: the next ten days or so, what do you think
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  Speaker 1: the buck ACTV is gonna be down there on a
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  Speaker 1: scale of one to ten. Uh, I'm gonna say maybe
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  Speaker 1: push it till five or a six are extended forecast,
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  Speaker 1: there's not a lot of relief. I think by about
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  Speaker 1: Wednesday or Thursday, we're supposed to the midst in seventies
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  Speaker 1: or so, but still not normal for what uh first
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  Speaker 1: of November should be down here. So hopefully kicks up
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  Speaker 1: a couple of points, but I still wouldn't put it
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  Speaker 1: in the in the high zone. Maybe get it towards
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  Speaker 1: the middle five or six range. Sure, well, looking at
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  Speaker 1: your Facebook page, I I know you guys will get
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  Speaker 1: it done either way down there. If it's uh, if
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  Speaker 1: it's a two or three or if it's a five
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  Speaker 1: or six. So I'll be following along there. Stewart Ranch Outfitters,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for your time, yes, sir, Thank you, Spencer and
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  Speaker 1: joining us on the phone. Next is bow Hunter magazine
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  Speaker 1: gear editor Tony Peterson, and Tony has been hunting his
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  Speaker 1: home state of Minnesota lately, and he also did some
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  Speaker 1: hunting in Wisconsin, where he's punched two tags. Tony, on
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  Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten, what would you say
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  Speaker 1: the buck activity has been lately in that area? Oh,
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  Speaker 1: I would say at eight point seven five. Well that
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  Speaker 1: is a good number. So tell us what you're basing
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  Speaker 1: that off of. Um, just you know, a lot of activity.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's been hot, and uh, it's still been
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  Speaker 1: it's still been going really strong. I mean, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen a buck chasing quite as
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  Speaker 1: hard as the one I killed in Minnesota on Thursday.
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  Speaker 1: So it's it's been going good. And so to to
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  Speaker 1: get yourself in position to kill that buck was in
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  Speaker 1: the morning, said meeting, said were you close to his bedding?
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  Speaker 1: Were you hunting food? What were you doing there? Um?
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  Speaker 1: It was a morning, said I was hunting close to
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  Speaker 1: where that buck and some other ones lived. But I
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  Speaker 1: also knew the reason I sat where I did is
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  Speaker 1: because there's just a lot of doughs living in that
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  Speaker 1: little valley that I was in, So I knew there
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  Speaker 1: was a decent chance of dough would drag a buck through.
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  Speaker 1: And that's that's just what happened. And still for other
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  Speaker 1: guys hunting kind of in that region, do you think
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  Speaker 1: this is about the most aggressive you should be right
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  Speaker 1: now or should you still show maybe a little bit
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  Speaker 1: of patients with your your best stands? Um? You know
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  Speaker 1: it depends here in Minnesota, our our firearms season open Saturday.
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  Speaker 1: So I get real aggressive this week because it's our
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  Speaker 1: last chance for gun huners. You know, if you're in
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  Speaker 1: a state like Iowa or Nebraska somewhere maybe where the
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  Speaker 1: gun season opened a little bit later, you could play
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  Speaker 1: a little bit safe. But what I'm seeing now, I wouldn't.
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  Speaker 1: I'd get after it. And so what about deer sign
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  Speaker 1: in the areas that you've been hunting. Have you been
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  Speaker 1: seeing a lot of scrapes and rubs and do you
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  Speaker 1: think they're still active? Oh? Yeah, you know, the scrape
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  Speaker 1: thing will dry up a little bit. But I had
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  Speaker 1: a camera over a scrape in Minnesota up until the
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  Speaker 1: day I killed that buck, and the deer were visiting
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  Speaker 1: that scrape every day bucks and does um and just
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  Speaker 1: you know, rubs showed up all over the woods, so
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  Speaker 1: it's they're they're laying down sign And so what about
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  Speaker 1: food sources this time of year? Do you have some
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  Speaker 1: agriculture where harvest has taken place? Are you hunting some
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  Speaker 1: pretty dense woods? Um? You know, I killed a buck
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  Speaker 1: in Wisconsin and the Big north Woods last week that
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  Speaker 1: was just feeding on brows and I ended up calling
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  Speaker 1: him in. But the deer that I'm moniting in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the acorn crop was was down quite a
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  Speaker 1: bit this year, so they're hitting the chopped corn fields
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  Speaker 1: pretty hard to pickcorn fields and uh, you know pick
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  Speaker 1: bean fields and alfalfa. So that's that's been an egg
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  Speaker 1: thing for me. And so you just talked about the
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  Speaker 1: calling there, and you know, what kind of techniques are
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  Speaker 1: you using this time of year with grunting or rattling?
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  Speaker 1: Um I snort weeds that buck in. I don't do
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  Speaker 1: a lot of calling um I Generally I kind of
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  Speaker 1: like to say let things happen on their own. But
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  Speaker 1: that buck I was sitting over a creek, so I
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  Speaker 1: couldn't hear him coming, and he was already past me
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  Speaker 1: by the time I saw him. And so he grunted
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  Speaker 1: at him a few times, and he wouldn't pay any
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  Speaker 1: attention to a grunt call. And then when I started
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  Speaker 1: snort weeds and he started getting ticked off, and he
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  Speaker 1: came in and rubbing his antlers and raking branches, and um,
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  Speaker 1: he was fired up. And I think he was a
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  Speaker 1: fighter anyway, because he had a messed up I and
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  Speaker 1: he had a lot of puss around one of his eyes,
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  Speaker 1: so I think he caught a tie in there too.
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  Speaker 1: But for me mostly it's yeah, I like a snort
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  Speaker 1: weed a lot. And and so with those two haunts
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  Speaker 1: where you you punched EAGs, do you think the weather
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  Speaker 1: was helping you it all then? Or do you think
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  Speaker 1: that still has no in a factor this season. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think the weather helped me on either one a
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  Speaker 1: whole lot. You know, it's been warm and uh the
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  Speaker 1: buck in Minnesota, it was really windy already by the
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  Speaker 1: time the sun sun was up. Um, So you know
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  Speaker 1: the factors that that a lot of people think you
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  Speaker 1: hurt deer movements such as heat and wind. I dealt
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  Speaker 1: with both of them and it didn't matter. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the rut Trump's everything right now, I think a sure.
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  Speaker 1: And so what phases of the route would you say?
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  Speaker 1: We're in a pretty rod, are we seeking and chasing?
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  Speaker 1: What do you think is going on in your area?
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  Speaker 1: We're in the pre roud. You know they're they're seeking
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  Speaker 1: and chasing hard um. You know, they're definitely they're definitely
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  Speaker 1: outlooking for dose um. And I think, you know, I
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  Speaker 1: can't prove this, but there are a lot of big
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  Speaker 1: bucks hitting the ground right now. And I think what
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  Speaker 1: it might have to do with is that some of
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  Speaker 1: those natural foods that were used to having and kind
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  Speaker 1: of spreading out the deer, like the acorns, that they're
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  Speaker 1: they're not They're not drawing the deer because they're not there.
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  Speaker 1: So I think more of the does are concentrated on
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  Speaker 1: the on the fields and some of the food sources.
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  Speaker 1: And it just seems like the running activity is going
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  Speaker 1: really good for this time of year. And so going
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  Speaker 1: forward in the next ten days or so, do you
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  Speaker 1: think we're going to improve on that eight point seven
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  Speaker 1: five that you gave me, or do you think we'll
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  Speaker 1: get a lot of nurse. No, I think we'll get better.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it's still I just checked the ten day
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  Speaker 1: forecast and it's gonna stay hot. But it doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: once you start getting into the fifth, sixth, seventh of November,
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  Speaker 1: it's the same thing every year. It's that's when to
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  Speaker 1: me that it just bust wide open. And so I
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  Speaker 1: think it's I think it's only going to get better.
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  Speaker 1: Right well, being in your neighboring status South Dakota, I'm
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  Speaker 1: really excited to hear then. I can't wait to get
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  Speaker 1: out this week. So awesome, Well, good luck, all right,
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Tony, Yeah, thank you. And joining us on the
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  Speaker 1: line now is Jason Read, an outdoor writer of Pushing
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  Speaker 1: the Wild Limits. Jason in New York, what would you
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  Speaker 1: say the bucket activity has been there on a scale
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  Speaker 1: of one to ten? Uh, let's say right now it's
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  Speaker 1: totally about a fives between the daylight and nighttime activity.
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  Speaker 1: And so I know you haunt a lot of different
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  Speaker 1: areas in New York, and would you say that five
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  Speaker 1: is pretty consistent for for all the places that you've
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  Speaker 1: been so far, just at this time of the month. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: And where we are, I think they are starting to
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  Speaker 1: pick up more and more. We're getting more, We're finally
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  Speaker 1: getting some we're finally getting some daylight photos of our
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  Speaker 1: of our target box. And so I know you haunt
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  Speaker 1: like three different areas. Would you explain what the differences
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  Speaker 1: are there and you know what you see for activity
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  Speaker 1: level wise? Yeah, so the person to the spot that
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  Speaker 1: I hunt is up near Lake Ontario. That's very reminiscent
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  Speaker 1: of you know, the Midwest by agriculture, really great soils,
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  Speaker 1: so the genetics and nutrition are all there. Um we're
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  Speaker 1: seeing I was seeing last week. I saw dose um
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  Speaker 1: really running in circles in the woods with their tails
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  Speaker 1: upspread and they're trying to start to spread their scent around.
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  Speaker 1: I've been starting to see more um between my between
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  Speaker 1: the central part of the state and the Lake Shore.
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  Speaker 1: Have been seeing button bucks and yearland does on their own,
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  Speaker 1: which is kind of indicative of the mamma does pushing
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  Speaker 1: them out, getting ready to do get breads as far
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  Speaker 1: as the buck activity goes. Are starting to seeing upstick
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  Speaker 1: and HI really seeing the really the peak of scraping
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  Speaker 1: at this point in both locations. And so you said
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  Speaker 1: the scraping is really picking up right now, would you
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  Speaker 1: say a lot of that has been being done at night. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the photos that have scraping or
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  Speaker 1: at night. Um any any of my buddies have been
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  Speaker 1: sending photos, and it's mostly at night at this point,
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  Speaker 1: although on the we did have our number one buck
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  Speaker 1: Texas there's a really like plus inch wide ten point
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  Speaker 1: show up at one o'clock in the afternoon to hit
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  Speaker 1: a mock scrape. Like I said, mostly at night, with
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  Speaker 1: the exception of of the big guy. Sure stand wise
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  Speaker 1: right now, how aggressive are you with with your sits?
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: Are you getting pretty close to betting right now? Or
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: are you focusing on our areas well? Part of the
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: thing is with with where I can hunt. The side
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: A couple of places, different places I can hunt, but
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: for the most part I really don't have all that
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: great access to food, which is kind of interesting. Um
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: one spot had some good mass crop. But for the
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: most part I am hunting generally hunting transition zones and
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: um closer to betting areas. So right now I'm starting
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: to get because of because of the time of the year,
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: seeing the uptaket and buck activity, I'm starting to push
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: in a little bit closer to the betting areas just
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: because they know that they're going to be cruising in
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: and out of there checking for those. Um. So just
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: you know, obviously being as careful as I can, but
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: I'm starting to get a little more aggressive as the
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: as the calendar take spy and I only have nineteen
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: days left in archery until rifle starts. So you gotta
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: make the move now before rifle starts. Because once rifle
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: starts in New York, do you gotta hunt them like rabbits.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: And it's a different ball game. Sure, it's so going
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: forward in these next ten days or so, what do
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: you think the bucket activity is going to be on
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: a scale of one to ten. I think it's gonna
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: be up towards eight. Uh. For us here in New York,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: we got the weather is finally going to stabilize, and
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: so hopefully the pressure, the barametric pressure is gonna stabilize.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: And I think that because we are now what it
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: would be like two or three weeks, I think from
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the full moon, um, and the fact that I've already
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: seen dose you know, I've already seen bucks chasing those
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: a little bit, um, I think the next ten days
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: is just gonna explode because of the weather and the
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: timing with the moon phase there. Well, that's exciting to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: hear Jason and they. I hope you can get it
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: done before gun season opens up there, Thanks man, I
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: appreciate it alright. And joining us on the phone. Next
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: is Clinton Fawcett, a bow hunter die now, Clinton, Illinois.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: What would you say to the buck activity has been
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: there on a scale of one to ten. Well, for
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: the past week, um, we have been seeing several bucks.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: I would say the buck activity has been a seven.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: And so is is that what you'd expect for the
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: end of October? Yeah? Yeah, Normally I really like our
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Frank and I we really like hunting the last week
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: of October. Um, we have usually on a normal year,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: we have a lot of success and we have been seeing, um,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: several of our shooter bucks. Now, the overall dear activity
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: has been down with this warm weather. Um, but we
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: have been seeing, uh, several nice bucks that we've been hunting.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: And so those shooter bucks that you've been targeting, what
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: are they doing when you've had encounters that they're hitting scrapes,
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: are they chasing? Does are they just you know, bed
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: to food? What's going on there? Well, the first two
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: big bucks that we encountered. Frankie was by himself the
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: first day and he grunted one in and called him
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: and that would have been last Wednesday, for no excuse me,
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: would have been on Thursday. And uh, the big eight
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: point that I was after I saw on Wednesday night
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: and I had actually rattled and he come in last
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: night we saw and it was just out cruising. The
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: last three days, it seems like they've been pretty unresponsive
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: and they're just kind of getting their nose into the
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: wind and just heading out searching. Um. My pictures have
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: been down the last three days on scrapes. It seems
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: like they kind of transitioned over to just you know,
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: putting the nose in the wind and kind of trying
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: to look for that first dough saran. So what are
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: your calling textique techniques right now? With the rattling and
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: the grunting. Are you doing any blind calling at this
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: point or not? Actually both the deer we called in
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: UM was blind calling UM a lot of times. If
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: if we're out and it's getting later and nothing's been happening,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: what we'll try to blind call at least once UM,
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: not not multiple times. On the same farm. If we're
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: hunting the same setups, we try to eliminate. You know,
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: we don't call every time we go in, but if
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: we're bouncing around there a couple of different farms, we
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: will um. But the deer last night we saw him.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: He was seven yards away. I've been trying to kill
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: the deer since the first October. We've been on in
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: and see him several times. But he come out and
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I could tell pretty much by his body posture that
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: we weren't gonna getting done with him. But he had
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: his nose into the wind. He was kind of on
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: cruise mode. And I grunted at him, immediately stopped and
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: looked um and then we let him he When he
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: walked off, we did try to sport we's at him,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and he did posture up a little bit, but he
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: looked for probably a minute or two, and then he
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: just continued about his way and we let him get oh,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: probably a hundred fifty yards away. In the CRP. We
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: could just see his horns and we rattled at him
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: and he turned and came just a little bit and
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: then continuing on. Now, the setup wasn't perfect for him
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: to come in. You know, with those big beer when
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: they get the wind where they can't get in their
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: face or at least get a good cross wind to
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: come back to that rattling or calling. You know, a
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: lot of times it's pretty tough to kill a big
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: mature beer that way. But you know sometimes they'll come
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: blazon in there. But right now because he they're just
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: not in that mode, at least not around here, right
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: And so you said, overall the deer activity has been down,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: but you've encountered a number of mature bucks. Why do
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: you think that that you've and encountering these mature books
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: if if the deer activities is at a lull right now, well,
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: we Frank and I run a lot of cameras all
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the time, um, so we know where where the deer
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: at most of the time, or especially right now, they're
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: still on like a historical based pattern where they were
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: last year mostly and once those deer move in there
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: and you know, we look at that past day so
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: we can get in there on them. But also you know,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: the last week October is a great time to kill
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: a big deer because he's he's out looking, you know.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: But to tell you the truth, the best pictures I
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: had so far this year was from the nineties. I
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: had lots and lots of deer um big bucks on
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: their feet in the daylight. And honestly think it's you know,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: we got a lot of cameras in the core area,
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: and I think, you know, you just catch them there
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: at the end on a little cold front or or
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: maybe the wind switching direction. The next day, they get
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: up and get moving. So I think that's always been
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: successful just because we're you know, we're very close to
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: where they're betting um and where they're coming to, right,
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: And so if you're getting all this good movement now
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: at the end of October, do you worry it all
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: that come there? These deer might disappear and head off
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: to the neighbors that they're cruising so much. Or is
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: that not a few of yours? Oh? No? I hate
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: I hate hunting in November. I absolutely hate it. I
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: wish I could just hunt the last two weeks of
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: October and then maybe hunting late season. Um. I am
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: a I am a patternal deer hunter. I don't like
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: hunting deer. I can't pattern and stuff that gets out
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: of my control. Even with it work and stuff in life,
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not very good at it. So November just does not.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I just don't like it. Absolutely. And what about going
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: forward for this next week or so, what do you
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: think the buck activity is going to be then? On
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: the scale of one to ten, um, truthfully, with it
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: today's Monday, I'm not looking for a whole lot except
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: for on Thursday. I would say if it gets above
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: a five or six, I'd be surprised. Um, the temperatures
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: here in central Illinois aren't supposed to do much. You know,
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: it's really warm today in tomorrow. We're supposed to get
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: an inch and a half of rain on Wednesday, So
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I think Thursday morning could be pretty good because they
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: gonna have high pressure in the winds will get out
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: of the north. So I'm thinking Thursday could be good. Um.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: After that, the tempts are just supposed to mellow off. Um.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: The pressure is supposed to be high on Friday and Saturday,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: so you know you could catch them there. But just
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: in my experience, the first four or five days in
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: November usually aren't very good for us. UM. It's usually
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: you know the fifth, after the fifth, it kicks off,
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: but it's almost like it just gets a little flow,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: you know, right now are pictures are down. I feel
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: like the bucks that have been harassing the dose enough
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: now that they're kind of hiding, but they're not ready.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Some of these big deer are definitely gonna be on
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: their feet kind of cruising and looking. But I don't
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: think they're gonna be called responsive. I think you know
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be a typical You better just be in
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. Um. But as
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: as far as I'm just going nuts running around, I
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: don't see it happening yet. I think we're a week
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: off from that. But I would say if a guys
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: in the woods on Thursday, you could see a little
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: spike in the in the buck movement that morning after
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: that rain. Right, Well, I hope those mature bucks stick
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: around for you and we'll continue to fall along at
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: bow haunts your day. Well, thanks Spens, right, I appreciate
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: the call, and I appreciate you guys letting me be be
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: on show all right and joining us on the phone.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Last is Josh Honeycutt, the deer editor with Real tree
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: dot Com. Now, Josh, I know you already tagged out
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: in Kentucky, but that hasn't kept you out of the woods.
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: So on a scale of one to ten, what would
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: you say the buck activity has been there lately? Yeah,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: I've been spending a little I've killed my buck tag
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: and filled my buck tag and Kentucky and but I
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: still filmed some other people in Kentucky. So I've still
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: been out in the woods, still been keeping eye on
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: trail cameras. Um. And it's been kid of slow as
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: far as the dayline activity, uh for the last a
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: few days because of this really really hot temptures you
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: had here in Kentucky. It's been one of the hottest
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Octobers on the record. UM, So it's been pretty tough
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: as far as those deer moving in daylight. I'm still
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: moving daylight, just not very farsome feddic areas. Um. And
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: so I'll skill I want to seem I would probably
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: say it's went down a little bit since the last
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: time we talked the middle of October too, probably from
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: like a six to seven to a five or six.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: It's went down a little bit, uh, just simply because
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: of the extreme temperatures that we've had. So you've got
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: bucks out moving, but not necessarily in daylight. Um, are
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: they moving like in the middle of the night or
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: before and after shooting light just as soon as the
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: shooting light, just as soon as as legal shooting lights over.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: I'm getting pictures of bucks. I mean, I know they're
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: moving in daylight. Still they're just not have they haven't
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: been moving as far from their beds of an afternoon
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: from getting a lot of pictures of bucks of a
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: morning in daylight because it's cooler, but as far as
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: afternoon sets. But they're just aren't moving as quickly of
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: an afternoon. So so the last week or so, the
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: mornings have definitely been more productive based on my camera checks,
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: based on the time that I've been in the woods filming, uh,
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: some other people hunt and uh. But as I think
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: that's about to change because we're gonna be moving into
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: the weekend. It's gonna stay warm until the end of
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: this week and then moving into the week Friday and Saturday. Uh,
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: we're supposed to cool down. They're supposed to be about
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: a fifteen degree temperature swing. So uh, being that with
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: just with the temperature swing, we're gonna have the end
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: of the week, paired with the fact that it's gonna
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: be around that, you know, the end of the first
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: week in November November five six, I mean between, but
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: just between those two factors alone, I expect to see
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: a big increase in daylight activity and overall activity by
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: the end of the week. Sure. And so those bucks
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: that are out moving at night, do you know what
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: they're doing? Are they are they laying down some sign?
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Are they looking for dolls? Are they you know, getting
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: to their food a little earlier? What's going on there?
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: It's kind of a transition period. We're kind of right
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: there on the tail end of the pre rut moving
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: into the rut. You know, we're not it's not full
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: bone right yet. I mean I've not been I've not
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: seen any chase and activity. It's kind of in that
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: seeking phase, seeking phase, the beginning of the seeking phase
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of the rut. Uh, there's I haven't seen a lot
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: of chasing activity. They're really still in that, uh, the
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: period where they're laying down a lot of signs. A
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: lot of rubs have popped up the last um seven
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: to ten days, a lot of scrapes have popped up
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: the last five to seven days, UM. And those bucks
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: are laying down signed pretty hard right now. Um, I've
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: seen quite a few bucks. Um, new bucks that I
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: have not seen this year. Um just showed up within
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: the last seven days on camera. UM. So the deer moving, uh,
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: they're starting to move more that in the overall activity
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: has continued to increase throughout October. It's just these afternoons
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: because of this hot temper. This hot weather as prevented
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: prevented those deer from getting up as quickly as they
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: would of an evening. But those morning tents of men
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: kind of decent because there's been a lot of times
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: where I've had pictures of bucks um hitting camera sites.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: You know, we're right there around the beginning of legal
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: shooting light. But I expect that I expect activity to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: increase quite a bit as we moved towards the end
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: of this week and in the next week, because they're
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: supposed to stay pretty cold. It's not gonna be cold.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: That's supposed to stay pretty cool from this weekend and
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: moving into the next week and the even the end
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of next week. Yeah, so that upticking activity, what would
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: you say that will translate to that on a scale
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: of one to ten for buck movement in this next
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: week or so, Well, my favorite week over the whole
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: year hunt is next week. It's that pulled my account
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: calendar up here. Uh. Next this week is obviously the
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: week of Halloween. You know, next Saturday is gonna be
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the fifth. UM. So we got next week, we got
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: the week of the six from the six of the twelfth,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: that's my favorite week to hunt of the entire year. UM.
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: That is usually UM for most people. It's a little
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: bit different from place to place, from state to state
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: and from region region, but that's usually generally your best
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: uh buck movement. Uh. That's you're kind of that chasing period.
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: It's that week prior to peak breeding, uh, what people
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: refer to as the lockdown phase. This next not this week,
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: but next week. I act next to see a lot
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: of chasing going on, simply because of the time that it's,
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the time of the year, um, what the
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: point of the rut that will be in, and also
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: because of the temperatures will have. So this week I'll
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: be still being Kentucky running the camera filming some guys hunt. Uh,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: and then next week I'll be heading uh heading to
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: Indiana to get my Indiana hunting license in chasing the
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: Indiana buck up there on Public Plan because I expect
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it's gonna be pretty good. Well, it sounds like an
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: exciting next couple of weeks coming up for you, Josh,
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: and I look forward to watching for pictures that you
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: got from the Hunts. So thanks again for your time. Yeah,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: thank you. And actually, like I said, I expect, I
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: don't know if I give you a number, but i'd
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: say it's gonna be between the nine at the end
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: next week. Well, I'll take either one of them, all right. Thanks,
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: thank you, and that concludes this week's episode of Wired
• 30:03
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  Speaker 1: Spencer ner Heart. Thanks for listening, and I want to
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: wish everybody a happy rut.