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Best of Chuck & Buck 5-29 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 2: Big great Friday morning to every single one of you
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  Speaker 2: except you, Dave.
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  Speaker 1: Let's see you. I know what you did. Yeah, you've
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  Speaker 1: been a real jerk lately.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't hide.
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  Speaker 1: I see you running. We forgave you for a while.
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  Speaker 6: I know.
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  Speaker 2: But everybody else though, I have a great weekend, everybody
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  Speaker 2: but Dave. Yeah, good morning to you. Welcome into the
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  Speaker 2: radio show here on this Friday. It has been a
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  Speaker 2: speedy week. I mean we have zipped to Friday. We
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  Speaker 2: may have even skipped a couple days along the way.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure. But here we sit on the precipice
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  Speaker 2: of yet another weekend here in glorious PNW, Seattle, Washington,
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  Speaker 2: and we are ready to get things started here at
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  Speaker 2: six o'clock on this Friday, to talk a little sports,
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  Speaker 2: to get your juices going, four straight hours of it.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, Ashley Ryan is here. My
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  Speaker 2: name is Chuck powellin we welcome you in to our
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  Speaker 2: little humble radio program. So welcome, come on in, Come on,
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  Speaker 2: have a cup of tea. Yes, I have a scone.
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  Speaker 2: They're handmade, delicious. I got up early this morning. That's
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  Speaker 2: real butter in there.
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait. That's not margarine. That's what you get
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  Speaker 1: at this humble little radio show. Right.
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  Speaker 2: I squeezed it straight from the teep, just a couple
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  Speaker 2: of days ago, I did, I really did, Thanks Bessy.
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  Speaker 1: That's care and love right there. Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's
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  Speaker 1: my second main ingredient. Love. Yeah, care, Yes, that's second
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  Speaker 1: and third. Yeah, butter, love then care. I mean that'll
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  Speaker 1: make for good food.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well, what you've got a lot planned for
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  Speaker 2: you here on this radio program today, four hours of it.
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  Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, we'll go over stuff coming
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  Speaker 2: up with what's on tap? Do you have anything big
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  Speaker 2: for this weekend now that you don't have a softball
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  Speaker 2: tournament to go to for once in your life.
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  Speaker 7: Just wild Mom's Bunco night on Saturday.
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  Speaker 8: What.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what.
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  Speaker 2: It's interesting that you bring that up because in the community,
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  Speaker 2: I came across a couple of people that I know
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  Speaker 2: and they were headed to bunko. Oh yeah, and apparently
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  Speaker 2: it's back or it never went away, but they were
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  Speaker 2: holding it at.
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  Speaker 1: One of the wineries in the area. Oh nice. And
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  Speaker 1: so there's a bunco night.
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  Speaker 2: And I remember when bunko was like extremely popular and
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  Speaker 2: it felt like every woman in the world was doing it.
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  Speaker 1: I mean to make it gender specific, but a woman.
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  Speaker 1: I literally don't remember a single man ever playing. I
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  Speaker 1: don't think they play. So I do remember.
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  Speaker 2: It had to have been oh gosh, mid two thousands,
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  Speaker 2: like two thousand and five ish around there, because the
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  Speaker 2: two girls on my show were both playing, and it
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  Speaker 2: felt like every woman in the world was playing bunko.
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  Speaker 2: And then I think it went away and I don't
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  Speaker 2: know why. Maybe it didn't, and now it seems like
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  Speaker 2: it's back. So I want to know did it go away?
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  Speaker 2: If so, why, And then third question for you why
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  Speaker 2: is it coming back? If in fact it is coming back,
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  Speaker 2: I don't.
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  Speaker 7: Know if it went away because I didn't know anything
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  Speaker 7: about Bunko. I didn't know it was a game until about.
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  Speaker 1: Six or seven years ago.
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  Speaker 8: What.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd never heard of it. Oh, it was a craze.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody was doing it.
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  Speaker 7: And then I was watching Real Housewives of Orange County
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  Speaker 7: and they had Bunko Nights. And that's where I kind
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  Speaker 7: of was like, what is this crazy game they're playing.
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  Speaker 7: They're all having a blast.
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  Speaker 1: That's where it started.
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  Speaker 7: And then we start. Yeah, so then we started having
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  Speaker 7: a Bunco night. It was before COVID, I'm pretty sure.
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  Speaker 7: And then we always have a theme.
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  Speaker 1: Oh.
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  Speaker 7: It started out as a Real Housewives Oh Go night
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  Speaker 7: because that's where the inspiration for Bunco came. You had
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  Speaker 7: to come dressed as your favorite real housewife. Oh, and
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  Speaker 7: then there was a prize for the best costume.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: A lot of guys participating in it. Yeah, lots of men,
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  Speaker 1: lots of changed.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: This year's theme is Deniman Diamonds. Oh. Oh so a minute.
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  Speaker 1: This year? Do you do it once?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: We do one big Bunko Night once a year. Oh, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: where everybody goes all out.
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  Speaker 7: So you got to get your costume, got it everything,
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  Speaker 7: and it is tomorrow.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Denim and diamonds. Denimon diamonds.
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  Speaker 7: Oh that was in my softball cloud. Fully forgot. I
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  Speaker 7: had to get a costume. So I did that yesterday
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  Speaker 7: while I sat in the back.
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  Speaker 2: At least it's denim. I mean, I'm not sure you
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  Speaker 2: got diamonds lining around.
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  Speaker 1: I've tried.
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  Speaker 7: I've found some dazzled jeans on Amazon. They should be
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  Speaker 7: here today.
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  Speaker 1: We'll see how they how they look, See how they shine? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: see how they shine? Oh how you sparkle and know
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  Speaker 1: how you shine? Denim and diamonds.
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  Speaker 2: I like it all right, So we're it's basically Canadian tuxedo.
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  Speaker 7: Yes, basically, yes, pretty much was diamonds right right, yeah,
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  Speaker 7: a be dazzled Canadian tuxedo.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, the is the thought there? Okay, yeah, but you
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  Speaker 1: know that'll be that'll be fun. Don't forget to accessorize.
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  Speaker 2: That's really what's going to set you up, because everybody's
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  Speaker 2: gonna have you need to have like a like a
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  Speaker 2: denim scrunchy, not a diamond scrunch yeah. And then yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so make sure that you're accessor rising diamonds diamond belt.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got denhim sandals. Uh, denim sandals. Uh oh,
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  Speaker 1: that'll set your part. I just hope they fit.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, I'll squeeze my feet in them.
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  Speaker 1: Did you ask five iron hey?
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  Speaker 2: Did you tell them hey, I'm a little short on
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  Speaker 2: diamonds for the old diamonds and denim party out.
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  Speaker 1: He's like, what's the occasion bunko?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Or is it a card game or is it a
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  Speaker 1: dice It's a dice game, dice, dice game.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, So you have to have groups of four, okay,
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  Speaker 7: so you always have to have and it never works
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  Speaker 7: out perfectly. Like I plan this every year and I
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  Speaker 7: this year, we were going to go up to sixteen people.
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  Speaker 7: Sure enough, four people, Well we were on short, just
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  Speaker 7: like three people dropped out. Keep expanding your tournament, Well,
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  Speaker 7: I thought, because there's you know, there's more people that
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  Speaker 7: want to play. I thought, that'll be fine, we can
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  Speaker 7: add another three people dropped out, so which I hadn't
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  Speaker 7: filled the fourth, the final sixteenth spot. Anyway, I was like, okay, well,
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  Speaker 7: now three people have dropped out, like I suspected, we're
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  Speaker 7: down to twelve now we've got one on who's a maybe,
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  Speaker 7: and just like, I'm sure what happens every year, we're
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  Speaker 7: gonna be one short and have to.
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  Speaker 2: Scramble, Oh jeez before tomorrow. Well, I would think five Iron,
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  Speaker 2: a good husband would be the fill in.
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  Speaker 7: No, Palmer the Great has been the filling before. And
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  Speaker 7: she really wants to do it, and I keep telling
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  Speaker 7: her no, five Iron seems like he wants to just
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  Speaker 7: go do nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Well, of course, yeah, so and he's.
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  Speaker 7: Like wait, He's like, I got to go watch the kid,
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  Speaker 7: and I was like, yes, you are taking her somewhere
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  Speaker 7: away from our house.
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  Speaker 2: He'd rather go work on the seventeenth Green with a
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  Speaker 2: pair of scissors. You stick around Bunco night. All right,
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  Speaker 2: Well we'll have fun.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you. What about you? Any fun exciting things this weekend?
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  Speaker 1: All sorts of stuff, a lot of illegal drugs. Nice,
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  Speaker 1: Yeah you're back into that. Yeah, yep, it's time.
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  Speaker 7: Well I think I thought so, but I'm glad you
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  Speaker 7: finally figured it out.
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  Speaker 2: Well, welcome into the show. Now, I'm probably gonna spend
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  Speaker 2: the weekend trying to figure out how to bring the
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  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball Players Association and the owners together on
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  Speaker 2: a deal.
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  Speaker 7: Now, that is a worthwhile way to spend your weekend.
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  Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to think ahead. I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to see some sort of labor stoppage. The last time
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  Speaker 2: they tried to push through a salary cap in Major
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  Speaker 2: League Baseball, we lost seven and a half months of baseball.
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  Speaker 2: We lost a World Series for the first time ever.
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  Speaker 2: So I've been warning you for a little while to
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  Speaker 2: brace yourselves. This could be the biggest, most significant, most
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  Speaker 2: uncomfortable labor negotiation in the history of a very tormented
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  Speaker 2: relationship between Major League Baseball players and owners. I mean
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  Speaker 2: kind of unlike anything else, not just in sports, but
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  Speaker 2: in life, like the Union of Major League Baseball. You
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't think this. You think it'd be some steel workers
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  Speaker 2: or some truckers. Nope, the strongest union in America is
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  Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball Players Association.
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  Speaker 1: It has never been broken, not in the biggest areas
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  Speaker 1: of life.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, it's been forced to negotiate, it's been
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  Speaker 2: forced to budget, it's been forced to come down, but
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  Speaker 2: they typically win.
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  Speaker 1: And so here we get set for another round of it.
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  Speaker 8: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: The climate, the climate, the Collective Bargaining Agreement almost said,
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  Speaker 2: the Climate Pledge agreement.
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  Speaker 1: Well, both equally important. H huh.
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  Speaker 2: The collective bargaining agreement expires at the end of this
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  Speaker 2: year and the next one. Oh, it's going to be
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  Speaker 2: a doozy as and we need to brace ourselves for now.
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  Speaker 2: As I said yesterday, I'm going to give all parties
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of credit here. I mean, usually these
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  Speaker 2: things they wait until if there's a midnight hour, they
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  Speaker 2: wait till eleven fifty seven fifty before they start even negotiating,
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  Speaker 2: because I guess that works in business. I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem to make players panic, and I don't think
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  Speaker 2: today's players are susceptible to panic. And this is where
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  Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball owners really have their work cut
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  Speaker 2: out for them, because pretty much everybody in the league
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  Speaker 2: is a millionaire. Like even the last guy on your
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  Speaker 2: bench is a millionaire. Yeah, and so what so if
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  Speaker 2: they are responsible at all with their money, and I'm
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  Speaker 2: sure there are a couple of I'm sure there are
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  Speaker 2: a few. I'm sure there are guys making thirty five
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  Speaker 2: million dollars that are probably living paycheck to paycheck. Those
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  Speaker 2: are called idiots. But you know, I do believe that
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  Speaker 2: they're you know, they're gonna be a few of those,
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  Speaker 2: but not enough. Like in the past. You know, even
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  Speaker 2: though Major League Baseball players made a lot of money,
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  Speaker 2: still there was this, well, I can't go I even
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  Speaker 2: though I make a lot of money, I got a
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  Speaker 2: really high house payment, or I got really I have
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  Speaker 2: three cars, or you know, my wife is a lot
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  Speaker 2: prettier than I probably would have gotten without money.
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  Speaker 1: She needs a lot of denim and diavs. Yeah, and she.
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  Speaker 2: Needs denim and diamonds for this weekend. And so no,
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  Speaker 2: my kids are in ivy league school whatever. Yeah, And
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  Speaker 2: so that's something that they own could use to their advantage.
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  Speaker 2: And they still always lost in these negotiations, and so.
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  Speaker 1: They're not really going to have that anymore. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: what are you going to do?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, there are a couple of players who are
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  Speaker 2: millionaires on the Mariners who still live together for goodness sake.
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  Speaker 2: This is how more responsible they are with their riches
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  Speaker 2: until they really get their big payday. And so this
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  Speaker 2: is what the owners are up against. That Yeah, you
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  Speaker 2: can lock them out, but they're not gonna be scrimping
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  Speaker 2: for money in the couch cushions so they can afford Subway.
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  Speaker 1: Right now, we're good. We're set.
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  Speaker 2: And if there are a couple that aren't set, there
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  Speaker 2: are some guys that make so much money they're like,
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  Speaker 2: here you go, here's a little loaner. As a matter
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  Speaker 2: of fact, just take it as a gift. I'm Aaron judge.
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  Speaker 2: My teeth are fixed and I'm still making hand over fist,
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  Speaker 2: Like what else do I have to spend it on?
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  Speaker 2: And so I from that standpoint, it would be more
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  Speaker 2: difficult than ever to try to get something that the
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  Speaker 2: players associated has bristled at. More than bristled at. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: they've come out swinging. We are never going to have
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  Speaker 2: a salary cap in this league. It's why they don't
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  Speaker 2: have one. Why the NFL has one, the NBA has one,
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  Speaker 2: the NHL has one, and yet Major League Baseball still
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  Speaker 2: does not have a salary cap to this day.
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  Speaker 1: And so this is.
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  Speaker 2: What the owner is going to try to push forward
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  Speaker 2: between now and the start of next season. And the
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  Speaker 2: last time they tried to push it forward, we missed
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  Speaker 2: an entire practically an entire baseball season. So this is scary.
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  Speaker 2: We're heading into scary grounds. And now baseball players are
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  Speaker 2: richer than ever and probably are not as affected by
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  Speaker 2: a lockout as they would have been in the past,
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  Speaker 2: or as they definitely have been in the past. So
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  Speaker 2: why is this different? How could there possibly be a resolution?
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  Speaker 2: Why would Rob Manford and the owners think they stood
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  Speaker 2: a chance in all of this? And I know people
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  Speaker 2: will last when they hear this. I've heard people laugh.
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  Speaker 2: I've heard MLB experts on our radio station on other
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  Speaker 2: shows laugh that this about the fact that this is
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  Speaker 2: anything but the owners just trying to get more of
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  Speaker 2: the pie. And certainly there's an element. I mean, there
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  Speaker 2: is going to be a We're going to limit how
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  Speaker 2: much players can make, how much teams can spin, and
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  Speaker 2: yet we're not going to limit how much value our
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  Speaker 2: organizations can go up. We're not going to cap ourselves.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm not naive, I'm not gullible. I realize that
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  Speaker 2: there's also Major League Baseball owners are saying, Man, look
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  Speaker 2: how those NFL guys have it.
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  Speaker 1: They don't even realize.
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  Speaker 2: People don't even realize how much money that they're making
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  Speaker 2: behind the scenes, and they only have to pay their
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  Speaker 2: players a certain percentage. They know how much they no
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  Speaker 2: matter what kind of windfall financially they come into, they
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  Speaker 2: know when every year begins we only have to designate
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  Speaker 2: this percentage of our earnings to the players, not even percentage.
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  Speaker 2: We have to designate this amount of money to the players.
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  Speaker 2: And so certainly I'm not naive to this. I know
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  Speaker 2: that this is also Major League Baseball owners wanting to
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  Speaker 2: get a little fatter themselves, and I don't doubt that
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  Speaker 2: for a second. However, I have been saying this for
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  Speaker 2: years on this radio show. We don't talk about it
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  Speaker 2: a lot, but I've been saying this for years. I
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  Speaker 2: don't think that this negotiation is about money. I think
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  Speaker 2: this negotiation is about the health of the product. And
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  Speaker 2: you would think man owners are making money. Values of
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  Speaker 2: organizations are going up. Players are making all sorts of money.
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  Speaker 2: Their contracts are the envy of sports. They get all
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  Speaker 2: guaranteed deals. Not even NFL players get guaranteed deals, deals
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  Speaker 2: paid to them into their forties when everybody knows that
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  Speaker 2: they're not going to be good at the tail end
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  Speaker 2: of their contracts. And yet they have such leverage over
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  Speaker 2: the owners with this that they are still getting paid
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  Speaker 2: into their forties tens of millions of dollars, even though
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  Speaker 2: the owners know for the last two or three years
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  Speaker 2: we're going to eat that because there's no way you're
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: going to be good at age forty one.
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  Speaker 1: That's how that's the advantage.
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  Speaker 2: And so certainly the players are making their money the owners,
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  Speaker 2: So why would you risk that if everybody's doing well well,
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  Speaker 2: Just like the NFL is bound and determined to go international,
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  Speaker 2: go global, because they see another opportunity to grow their game,
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  Speaker 2: to grow their income, to grow the popularity not just
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  Speaker 2: on the domestic front, but cross the globe, and that
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  Speaker 2: means even more money. And that's where major League Baseball
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  Speaker 2: sits right now. We can't get to the popularity level
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  Speaker 2: of the NFL well until we introduce some of the
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  Speaker 2: things they've introduced, and it starts with a salary cap.
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  Speaker 2: Here is the absolute truth about what a Major League
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  Speaker 2: Baseball fan is in the year twenty twenty six. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: they all feel cheated.
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  Speaker 7: That's a pretty accurate way to put it.
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  Speaker 1: And it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 2: It's not just Seattle, not just Seattle, but Seattle Mariner
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  Speaker 2: fans are among the more ridiculous ones. Spend, spend spin
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  Speaker 2: Why is my owner not spending my Saint Louis fans?
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: I grew up with, I go home. That's all they
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: talk about cheap ass organization. That's the second most successful
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  Speaker 2: franchise in the history of baseball in.
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  Speaker 1: A dying market.
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  Speaker 2: Not just from a baseball perspective, but they are one
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  Speaker 2: of the few major metropolitan areas.
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  Speaker 1: That is losing human beings in droves.
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  Speaker 2: And yet my cardinal friends that I grew up with
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  Speaker 2: fan friends that I grew up with, every time I'm
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  Speaker 2: around them, we just are so cheap.
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  Speaker 1: We won't spend money.
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: You are a small market club and you've known nothing
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: but success practically your entire lives, and they're still every
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: second of every day belly aching that my ownership for
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: my baseball team won't spend enough money.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: And this is the art.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: This is happening with Yankee fans who are watching the Dodgers.
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: The Dodgers spend three hundred and.
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: Forty more million dollars per year on their payroll than
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the Miami Marlins three hundred and forty. So we have
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: a baseball fan base from coast to coast that believes
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: that the product is blatantly unfair and it cannot be overcome,
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: even though it consistently gets overcome. There is more parody
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: and major League Baseball. It is a proven fact than
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: there is in the National Football League. The National Football League,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: more teams consistently make the playoffs, the same teams in
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: the NFL than do Major League Baseball. We have a
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: couple of outliers. The Dodgers and the Yankees are a
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: couple of outliers. But the New York Mets have proven
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: over and over we can spend as much as we
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: want and we still fail at baseball. They're in last
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: place right now. Last I checked, the New York Mets
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: second highest pay roll in the sport. So the point
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: of the matter is that what baseball owner is what
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: Rob Manford have observed, and they are a thousand percent
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: right about this. It doesn't matter if we have a
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: good system or not. Our main audience, our customer, thinks
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: our product is unfair, doesn't.
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Matter if they're right.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: Our customers think our product is unfair. If a sandwich
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: shop ran that way, where every customer came in and said,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I can't believe you're charging one hundred dollars for a
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: sandwich and it's really only worth ten. This is really unfair,
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: how much business would they.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Get not a lot? They would not get a lot.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: And so that to me is at the heart of this.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: If we really want to grow our sport again, because
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: that's popular, it's only popular. It's wildly popular on the
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: local front, but it's not popular nationally. Want to know
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: why because the team that doesn't make the World Series,
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: Cleveland Guardians fans don't want to watch the Dodgers play
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: because of envy, correct because they believe it's unfair, so
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: they can't get national television audience. Therefore they can't grow
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: their television contract. Therefore they can't really cash in like
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: the National Football League does because they make money hand
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: over fist with their television deals. They have numerous of
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: them now, and so that's what this is going to
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: be about. It's about every Mariner fan that thinks that
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: the entire product is unfair and that the only reason
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: that they're not happy as a baseball fan is because
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: John Stanton won't spend this friggin money that's going on
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: in every market in Major League Baseball that's not the
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: Los Angeles Dodgers and the New York Mets, and the
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Mets fans are unhappy because they don't believe they have
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: anybody that knows how to spend all that money.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're just spending it randomly.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: So if you're running a business and your customers all
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: think that your business is unfair, and you're still popular,
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: you still are making great revenue, how would you change it?
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: What would you change about your sport? The thing that
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: needs to change the most about Major League Baseball is
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: the perception of how the league is run, the perception
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: of fans so they can get back to just rooting
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: for their team and not blaming every single shortcoming.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: On whether or not the owner spends money that they
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: know they have. I know they've got more mind, and
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: they might, they might. I'm not saying John Stanton's not laughing.
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's not in his basement sitting on
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: a mountain of gold.
• 21:10
  Speaker 9: Bullyon and ha, I can't believe these fools keep paying
• 21:15
  Speaker 9: for bobbleheads. Maybe he's worth a trillion dollars through baseball,
• 21:20
  Speaker 9: I have no idea. Or maybe according to Stanton, I
• 21:25
  Speaker 9: barely make money off of this.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I don't believe that, but that's what he says.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: I barely make money. I barely turn a profit off
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: of running this. It's a labor of love. And you
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: know you can laugh at that. In your car all
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you want. But that's the argument on the other side.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: And yet ninety percent of his fans thinks he's a
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: cheap miser who's costing them their happiness, and that that
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: kind of mindset has kept the Mariners from making the
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: World Series, thus has kept all of Seattle miserable throughout
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: the summer. That perception has to change, fans. I've never
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: been for a salary cap. I am now, never in
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: my life. I'm fifty four years old. I've been a
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: baseball fan since i was three years old. I've been
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: thinking this. I've been a sports talk show o since
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: I was nineteen years old, and never before have I
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: wanted or thought it was necessary for baseball to have
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: a salary cap.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: I do now, and I've been saying it for years.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: And the reason is because I, as a talk show
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: host and now on social media, realize the anger and
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: the appetite of the average baseball fan.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: And when your.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Customers think it's unfair, we don't have a chance. Whether
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: it's true or not. You have to change the perception.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: You have a perception problem. And so that's what baseball
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: needs to be about. And I'm sure they're going to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: make more money off of it. Don't get me wrong,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: I'm sure they're going to make more money off of it.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: But after all heart of it, this time around, unlike
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the past, they know that a lockout is not gonna
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: lead the players to poverty. What they're gonna try to
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: do with them is reason with them for the good
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: of the game, for the good of the growth of
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: the game. You guys have to change the way you
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: think about this salary cap. So we're going to adjust it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: We're gonna give you more money. We're going to rise
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: the floor as well as shrink the ceiling, and we're
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: going to make our fans believe in the product again
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and that they have a fair shot. They have their
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: work cut out for them to pull this off against
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: the Major League Baseball Players Association. But I think it's
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: a worthwhile endeavor. I think it needs to be done, frankly,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: and it's taken me fifty some years to arrive at
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: that conclusion.
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: I absolutely think it needs to be done. And just
• 23:51
  Speaker 7: the way you put it, that it is it's all
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: about the product and the growth of the product and
• 23:55
  Speaker 7: the longngevity of the product. If you want, I mean
• 23:58
  Speaker 7: the Dodgers have been dominating for what three years ten? Well,
• 24:03
  Speaker 7: but like, yeah, but just in the last where that
• 24:06
  Speaker 7: all of a sudden, now things have gotten out of
• 24:08
  Speaker 7: control with their salary cap.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they're even kicking into They're even kicking money into
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: the future, which I think will also change with this
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: collective bargain.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: And people are already angry.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: And frankly, and I'm gonna go over if I say this.
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: I think baseball everybody was like, how could you let
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: them defer payments? This is why they knew they were
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: going to have this argument someday. They wanted the Dodgers
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: to run them up. They wanted to use them as
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: a symbol of c We've got to shrink this. Nobody
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: thinks they have a shot. No fan and any other
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: fan base thinks they have a shot against the Dodgers, because.
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Look what they're doing. Look what they're doing.
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: They're using them as the example for why this has
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to be done. An example anyway, but the ultimate example
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: for why it needs to be done.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: And so that's where I'm at. I think it needs
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: to be done.
• 24:53
  Speaker 6: I really do.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: And I didn't know if I'd ever arrive at that conclusion.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: But I do think it's time. I don't want to
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: miss seven and a half months. I don't want to
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: miss one month. But I'm willing to miss a little
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: bit of time for the owners to get their way
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: on this, because I do believe it's better for the game,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: for the league, and for our enjoyment of the league.
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: I agree. All right, let's find out what's on tap?
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: What's on tep? What's ontep?
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Diamondbacks at Mariners tonight. They start a brand new series
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: at home. It'll be Zach Gallen versus George Kirby. College
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: baseball tournament is getting underway today with the regionals. The
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: Koogs will be in action. They made the field of
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: sixty four. They're going to be down in Eugene, but
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: taking on the Beavers. I know that's weird be in Eugene,
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: but they're facing Oregon State today at noon.
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: Softball World Series, I mean, you want to talk about
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a great game, Oh geez.
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: I turned it off the Thunder and the Spurs because
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: it was lopsided and I watched me some Nebraska Arkansas
• 25:58
  Speaker 2: college softball is fantastic. I don't feel that way about
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: women's college basketball. I just don't I'm sorry. I don't
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: think it's that good of a product, but college softball
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: is a fantastic game. And my goodness, did Nebraska and
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Arkansas give us a good one last night with Nebraska winning.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Storm Toronto will play on Saturday. Toronto, one of those
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: expansion franchises. The Spurs did force a game seven against
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: the Oklahoma City Thunder. It'll be played tomorrow in Oklahoma.
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Spencer Hawsell join us to talk about it at nine.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: NBA lottery reform was also introduced, so we got a
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: lot of things to discuss. At the Collective Bargaining Table.
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup Playoffs Montreal at Carolina tonight. The Hurricanes can
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: wrap up the series in advance to the Stanley Cup
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: Finals against Las Vegas. With a win, they're up three
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: to one. Carolina is going eleven and one so far
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: in the playoffs. And we'll talk some Seahawks football with
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell today at seven oh five plus World Cup
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: two weeks away.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: Get ready for World Cup in two weeks coming up next.
• 27:03
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  Speaker 1: for a montage.
• 28:18
  Speaker 7: Montage.
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs won easily over the Oklahoma City Thunder
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: last night, eighteen to ninety one. Victor wimb and Yama
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: twenty eight points, ten rebounds, three block shots. He shakes
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: off his rough performance of game five with a sterling
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: performance in game number six. This game really never was close.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: I said it about game number five. I think it
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: was perpetually. Okase was up thirteen points the entire game.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Every time I looked over, thirteen points I know the
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: score was changing, but for whatever reason, the NBA set
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: a rule in Game five that OKAC must be up
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: by thirteen points at all times. Uh.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: And they won by thirteen point points last night.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: It was more like twenty one because it just Okay
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: s just could not cut into the San Antonio lead.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: So the spurs of even things up, and we're going
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: to have one heck of a game seven. It looks
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: like in the NBA Western Conference Finals tomorrow at five o'clock,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: they'll play that game in Oklahoma.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Boo, yeah, boo. Okay se sucks.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And I said yesterday what makes OKAC special is they're
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: so deep, and the NBA playoffs are about matchups, so
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: they can pretty much match up with just about anything
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: thrown at them because of how deep they are and
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: how versatile they are.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: But there is no matching up with Wimby.
• 29:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, there's no solution for seven foot five unicorn
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: that can shoot, has thirty five foot range and can
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: take one dribble from the top of the key and
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: hit his head on the back.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Is incredible. Yeah, So he is the He's the fly
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: in the ointment for them.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: He is the alien landed on Earth and might be
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: the guy that saves us from having to watch the
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Oklahoma City Thunder win.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Five straight NBA championships.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: And so Game seven, we know who Seattle will be
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: rooting for the San Antonio Spurs tomorrow at five o'clock.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Good morning, it is Ashley Ryan here. My name is
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Chuck Palcod to have you with us. Greg Bell's going
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: to join us here in about a minute and a half.
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: Let me first get through your headlines. They are brought
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• 30:31
  Speaker 2: from NBC Sports. I should point out NBA also decided
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: yesterday that we are going to have a lottery re
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: formatting of the NBA lottery to try and curb tanking.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: It's a really interesting proposal. I would say I like
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: it more than I dislike it, and I certainly like
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: it more than the past process that they've used. I
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: think it's time to start rewarding teams that are intentionally
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: losing in our professional sports. And so that's what the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: NBA is going about, and they're also making it very
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: easy on themselves to rig it.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: Even more thoroughly.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: Can't wait for Yeah, So we'll talk about that coming
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: up at seven forty five today. Storm will be in
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: action tomorrow against the expansion Toronto franchise. Also, Stanley Cup
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: playoffs will be held tonight Montreal at Carolina. The Hurricanes
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: have gone eleven and one so far in the playoffs
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: and I have a feeling they're going to finish off
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: the Canadians tonight at home in game number five, and
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: then next up for them will be the Las Vegas
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: Golden Knights in the Stanley Cup Final. Major League Baseball,
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: the Arizona Diamondbacks will be in town to take on
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: the Mariners. Both teams hot ish. Arizona's won ten of
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: their last eleven, but against some of the worst competition
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: that the sport will provide right now. Meanwhile, the Mariners
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: are coming off a suite. They are a first place team.
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: They can get back to five hundred tonight with a victory.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Maybe they've got a little bit of that M word
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: that actually doesn't want to mention going for them right now.
• 32:02
  Speaker 2: We shall see, but they will start at home against
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks. It's George Kirby versus Zach Goalman, a pair
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: of right handers. That's good news. In the matchup tonight,
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: College baseball tournament. Also, the Field of sixty four begins
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: today in regional play. The closest region to US will
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: be in Eugene. Oregon's a part of it. Oregon State's
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: a part of it. Yale is a part of it.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I'dreg in the Pacific Northwest, Yale and the Koogs are
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: a part of it. The Coogs will be in action
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: today at noon, taking on Oregon State in Eugene. That
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: feels weird. They'll play that game at noon. And the
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: Softball World Series elimination round today. Two teams will be
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: eliminated from the tournament today after yesterday's opening quadruple header
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: that was thrilling, including the game last night between Nebraska
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: and Arkansas, and Nebraska won five to three. All Right,
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: those are your headlines, brought to you by Frost Brewed Cores.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: Like let's talk some Seahawks football with our Seahawks insider
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell.
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: Good morning, sir, Good morning.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Ready for the weekend?
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to stay home for a change. Jet setter,
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: globe trotter.
• 33:16
  Speaker 6: I'm going to be in the stake.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: We're going to go to the Brandy Carlisle concert at
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: the Gorge tomorrow night.
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, the bells, bells do get after it.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: I'll give you credit.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: I mean, I just get the Friday and I'm like,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: can I have a nap in some vodka and the
• 33:29
  Speaker 2: bells get after it?
• 33:33
  Speaker 4: The kids are home and yeah, activities for sure. My
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: wife's big Brandy Carlisle fan. So we're going to go
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: out there to morn night.
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's make Wendy happy. That's always a
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: good plan for the.
• 33:43
  Speaker 6: Yeah, that's my game plan.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: That's thirty years I've done that and it's worked a
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: little bit.
• 33:48
  Speaker 6: I guess.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's talk a little Seahaws football. I mean,
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: we're at the end of the week of OTAs and that,
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: let's face it. I mean, they didn't even open it
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: up to the media, so I mean, there aren't a
• 33:57
  Speaker 2: lot of juicy nuggets flying out of renting right now.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: But we did get video of DeMarcus Lawrence running out
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: into the football field. There was a brief period of
• 34:06
  Speaker 2: time during this offseason where we thought maybe he was
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: considering retirement, and that has been cleared up.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Correct.
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: Correct, He's on the field and yesterday first time he's
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: to joined the team. His priorities are in order. He's
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: explained to John Boyle with US dot Com team writer
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: yesterday that the reason he hasn't been around this offseason.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: Right after the Super Bowl, his wife birth their sixth child.
• 34:35
  Speaker 4: Oh boy, I have two children, and I know how
• 34:38
  Speaker 4: much my wife needed help with that. Six children, including
• 34:43
  Speaker 4: an infant, and DeMarcus Lawrence says, I'm going to stay
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: home and be with my wife and be with her
• 34:48
  Speaker 4: and help raise now six children, one of them a newborn,
• 34:52
  Speaker 4: and that's why he wasn't here. So his priorities are
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: for sure in order. You know, he'll play it appears
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: his thirteenth NFL season.
• 35:01
  Speaker 10: The supposition he might not come back came from the
• 35:05
  Speaker 10: fact he played his twelfth NFL season his first with
• 35:08
  Speaker 10: Seattle last year, and he finally won the Super Bowl,
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: and he's made over hundreds of millions of dollars.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: It would seem like to go out on top and
• 35:17
  Speaker 4: why would you need to come back, But that's not
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: how he thinks. He wants to see if he can
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: do it again, and he recruited Dante Fowler Junior, a
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: veteran edge with background with the Cowboys from when he
• 35:31
  Speaker 4: was with eleven. Lawrence was eleven years with the Cowboys
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: and recruited him to Seattle. He said, you want to
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: come win a Super Bowl, do what I did and
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: signed with the Seahawks, and that's what Fowler did. So
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: we'll see how this all shakes out with Fowler and
• 35:46
  Speaker 4: Lawrence and Leonard Williams all thirty two, thirty three, thirty
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: four years old. But the rotation is starting to take
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: shape of their edge rushers.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Do they feel like they have a whole because that
• 36:00
  Speaker 2: was has been discussed, I mean, losing Mafey. They didn't
• 36:03
  Speaker 2: really address it aggressively in the draft, so the conversation,
• 36:09
  Speaker 2: the narrative has been that maybe there's still a guy
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: shy even with the addition of Fowler, or does Fowler
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: take care of that from their perspective, Well, for them.
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: The last couple of years, especially in the McDonald since
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: he came in for Carroll Boy, Mafey hasn't been a
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: true edge rusher yea, and at times he was getting
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: replaced on passing downs. He was an early down edge setting,
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: run stopping and he wasn't always doing that effectively either.
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: But his effectiveness in the pass rush game I think
• 36:38
  Speaker 4: has been overstated and some of that might be because
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Cincinnati paid twenty million dollars a year, which blew everybody
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: in the Seahawks building away.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you get a run stuffing you know,
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Sam linebacker for twenty million dollars a year.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: So I don't know what Cincinnati seeing.
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: Well, they asked Hendrickson, so they were desperate for any
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: pass rusher and they took Mafey for that, and the
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: Seahawks for no way going to match that because of
• 37:03
  Speaker 4: how they use Emon worry and because now Bud Clark
• 37:06
  Speaker 4: is in as a versatile he could stop the run
• 37:09
  Speaker 4: and come into the boxes of safety. McDonald has a
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: couple pieces that doesn't have to They don't have to
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: be true linebackers on the roster to play edge linebacker. Well,
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: I mean you mentioned Sam linebacker. That's basically what nick
• 37:21
  Speaker 4: emun Wore was for most of the time, last two
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: thirds of the time last year. So just because a
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: depth chart doesn't have it has one fewer outside linebacker
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: and boy Mafey, that doesn't mean they're berift of options
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: on the edge. Fowler will come in and have probably
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: third down responsibilities maybe thirty percent of the snaps. They
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: hope but he's got options, and he wants more options
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: to mix and match guys who don't even show up
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: with a depth chart as a linebacker to play that role.
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: Greg Bell is with us our Sahawks inside or you
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: can follow him of course at cheep mel Seattle on
• 37:56
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• 37:59
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• 38:02
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• 38:05
  Speaker 2: talk Seahawks football because our audience just can't get enough
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: of it.
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: Let's talk about Sam Donald.
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: We had Matt Hasselbeck on earlier this week and I
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: asked him about through his own experience of when he
• 38:19
  Speaker 2: had his breakthrough year where and he knew he belonged
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: as not just a starter, but he was one of
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: the dudes in the National Football League at quarterback, what
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: kind of an off season experience that was, and then
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: tried to relate it to Sam Darnald. Would you fall
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: on complacency at all or were you hungrier to go
• 38:38
  Speaker 2: after it even more? Well, I mean what I've seen
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: of Sam Donald this offseason and we're not following him
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: around town.
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: But you know, he got married.
• 38:46
  Speaker 2: He I think opened up a chicken restaurant, and so
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering, you know, should we have any fear that
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald, you know, had that breakthrough year and may
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: not be the focused war year that we saw this
• 39:01
  Speaker 2: past season.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Well, that's the prototypical concern of every veteran player on
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: a Super Bowl champion, and in fact, that's what Mike
• 39:09
  Speaker 4: McDonald's trying to address. And he's uniquely messaging and run
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: it forward, not back, to try to push the process
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: ahead even more and.
• 39:15
  Speaker 6: See how good they can be.
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: It's interesting you asked this this week because Sam Donald
• 39:19
  Speaker 4: was on a podcast this week and he was asked
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: the same thing, and he said that he talked to
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: a sports psychologist and worked with a sports psychologist before
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: his one season with Minnesota, so the year before he
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: signed with the Seahawks, and the sports psychologists likened his
• 39:36
  Speaker 4: Donald's career to a house and he said, the first
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: five six years you spent building the foundations of your
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: house and the framing. And he said, now you've been
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: in the career, your career long enough and played for
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: this many teams and had limited success, but success when
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: your dad started start painting the house, start decorating, started
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: doing things to beauty it up and realize that this
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: is your home and you're not going anywhe that you
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: belong here. This is now your home. Move in, And
• 40:03
  Speaker 4: he said mentally that was a breakthrough for him. Wait
• 40:06
  Speaker 4: a minute, I belong in this league. I've done well
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: in this league. And yeah, I keep getting one year
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: here and a couple of years here and I'm backup here.
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: But in my time i've started, I've done pretty well.
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: And it was after that year JJ McCarthy gets hurt
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: as a rookie Uning's training camp for the Vikings and
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: Minnesota starts Sam Donald. He goes fourteen and three throws
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: for forty five hundred yards and then he signed one
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: hundred million dollars contract with the Seahawks and then the
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: first year wins the Super Bowl back to back Pro
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: Bowl season since that house building breakthrough with a sports psychologist,
• 40:37
  Speaker 4: and it's the first time Donald has mentioned this publicly
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: and tell us this last during the last season at all.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: So there has been a breakthrough for him and it
• 40:47
  Speaker 4: came the year before he arrived in Seattle. You're right
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: about I mean, it's the downfall of Super Bowl champions
• 40:54
  Speaker 4: who some of whom haven't made the playoffs in the
• 40:56
  Speaker 4: last quarter century, often traced to come place and see
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: you're getting fat and happy. The difference here is, in
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: Donald's case and and others, the Seahawks didn't get a
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: run on new contracts and rich, happy, fat guys, and
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: that their young. Their core is still young. Donald's still
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: only twenty eight, and Jackson Smith and jig with the
• 41:17
  Speaker 4: reigning NFL Offensive Player of the Year is twenty four.
• 41:21
  Speaker 6: Devin Witherspoon is about to.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: Get minted as the highest paid quarterback in the league
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: this summer is twenty five. So it's different than the Legion.
• 41:28
  Speaker 6: Of Boom coming back.
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman and Cam Chancellor holding out
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: and all those guys getting paid massive, massive amounts of money. Now,
• 41:38
  Speaker 4: of course Smith and jigb and Witherspoon will get get paid,
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: but typically mid twenty still and Donald's not gotten repaid.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: He's still in the middle of his contract, which is
• 41:47
  Speaker 4: now a value for Seattle based on quarterback salaries around
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: the league. So I don't I think it's a difference
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: proposition because of how young the cores is that will
• 41:58
  Speaker 4: be in the seahawks favor this year.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: I know that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not getting greedy about this. I don't
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: need Sam Donald to be any better than he was
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a year ago. That quarterback won a Super Bowl title,
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: had a couple of rough games along the way, but
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: obviously proved a lot of his, if not all, of
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: his doubters wrong this past season. But I would ask
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: do they believe? Does the organization believe that he still
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: has a lot more upside.
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: That he could reach?
• 42:27
  Speaker 4: I think so. And it's because he led the league
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: in turnovers last year, and if he cuts the turnovers
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: even in half, his efficiency should double. I mean, that's
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: just common sense. If you don't turn the ball over,
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: you got that twice as many chances to score if
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: you've turned the ball over half as.
• 42:43
  Speaker 6: Many times, and it'll start there.
• 42:45
  Speaker 4: And some of it is that Clint Kubiak and Darnold
• 42:49
  Speaker 4: pushed the ball down the field and we're having success
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: doing it. Some of them was just his ball secure.
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: How many times did we see him just get hit
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: and knock the ball out of his hands? The San
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Francisco game inside the ten yard line in the opener
• 43:01
  Speaker 4: they lost the.
• 43:02
  Speaker 6: Ball, the Tampa Bay game where he got hit and.
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: The ball was deflected for an interception in the final
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: second final minutes of that game to set up the
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Bucks winning to the field goal. Just tighter with the
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: ball would be enough to limit his turnovers. But yeah,
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: he wasn't perfect last year. He got him the Super Bowl,
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl. But there's a lot he could
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: improve upon, and it starts with taking care of the
• 43:24
  Speaker 4: ball and not turning it over and handing scoring opportunities
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: the other team.
• 43:28
  Speaker 2: Greg belt Our guest here on this Friday, as the
• 43:31
  Speaker 2: off season continues for the Seahawks and so OTA is
• 43:35
  Speaker 2: coming to a close. And then where do we go
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: with the schedule. What's the next thing to accomplish here
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: this offseason?
• 43:43
  Speaker 4: Well, there's two sets of three day OTAs. The first
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: set is this week ending today. The second set will
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: be next week over three days. It's about three practices
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: in four days, just like this week. And then June eight, nine,
• 43:54
  Speaker 4: and ten is the one mandatory event of the offseason,
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: the mini camp.
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: That's it.
• 44:00
  Speaker 4: From June tenth until around July twenty eighth or thirtieth
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: or so, they're off and this is the most gone
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: fishing out of the office. Don't try to get a
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: hold of me time in the NFL calendar from mid
• 44:14
  Speaker 4: the end of the veteran mini camp until the start
• 44:16
  Speaker 4: of training camp. So the offseason came fast and ended
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: quickly because of the Super Bowl and everything else. In
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: McDonald trying to give some of the veterans a break,
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: And yeah, they're just three ota practices of mini camp
• 44:29
  Speaker 4: away from being off until training camp starts, and it's
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: fifteen days before the veterans can report no earlier than
• 44:37
  Speaker 4: fifteen days before the first training camp. That's by the CBA.
• 44:40
  Speaker 4: First preseason game, excuse me, that's by the CBA. The
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: first preseason game is August fifteenth for the Seahawks against Dallas.
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: So on or about July thirty thirty, first veterans are reporting.
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: No.
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: Mike McDonald does it differently than Pete Carroll. He has
• 44:54
  Speaker 4: his rookies report a couple of days ahead of the veterans,
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: like a lot of teams do. So the rookies might
• 45:00
  Speaker 4: report around July twenty seventh or so.
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: When I first moved here, they were coming off the
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl loss. I don't need to provide any more
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: details for that, but I think for my first five camps,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: six camps, there was a holdout every single time. How
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: surprised would you be in the John Schneider Mike McDonald
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: coming off a Super Bowl championship, How surprised would you
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: be if they ran into an unexpected holdout this year
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: at training camp.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: I'd be shocked because it'd be counter to everything Mike
• 45:36
  Speaker 4: McDonald has built culture and locker room wise in the
• 45:39
  Speaker 4: two years. Everything has been about togetherness, unity of effort,
• 45:43
  Speaker 4: singular purpose, selflessness.
• 45:45
  Speaker 6: If they have somebody do that, it would be like WHOA.
• 45:49
  Speaker 6: I thought they were on this track, and now they've
• 45:50
  Speaker 6: got a guy on this track.
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: He'd be the outsider, the only one who's making who's
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: gonna in line for a big enough contract that it
• 45:58
  Speaker 4: would cause that would he would even try to hold
• 46:01
  Speaker 4: out because there's a stick in the negotiation.
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: Would be Devin Witherspoon.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: Yet, Witherspoon has been here since day one of the
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: voluntary off season training program in April, when McDonald told him,
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: don't come blow it off, just do it remotely in
• 46:15
  Speaker 4: zoom calls. We'll call you when we need you. And
• 46:17
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon was there day one. He was there this week
• 46:20
  Speaker 4: at the OTA's practicing in the rain in May, he
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: didn't look like a prima Donna guy who was going
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: to hold out in July. So yeah, that would be
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: really counter to what McDonald has built, and it would
• 46:31
  Speaker 4: shake McDonald frankly, because he thinks he's got these guys
• 46:34
  Speaker 4: all bought in, and there's no reason that the guys
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: shouldn't buy it. This guy just won him a super
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: Bowl doing it his way. Why don't listen to this guy?
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: That would be a rock to boat culture. He prides
• 46:46
  Speaker 4: himself on his culture and he'd be pretty shook if
• 46:49
  Speaker 4: that happened. Then I don't think it's going to And.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: By the way, before we let you go, Ashley and
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: I picked up what you were putting down. We heard,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: we knew.
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: That was laced with a little bit of suggestion that
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: there is a period of time coming up where nobody
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: answers their phone and talks football and can't be bothered.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: So we get it, We get it very aloud and clear.
• 47:11
  Speaker 6: Well, you know I'm not going anywhere. I'm hosting the
• 47:13
  Speaker 6: show after yours.
• 47:14
  Speaker 3: That's true, that's true.
• 47:18
  Speaker 6: So yeah, I don't have a choice in this case,
• 47:21
  Speaker 6: but yes, it is. It is striking though, and.
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: People say, why is the Winerspin deal done. It's because
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: everyone's gone and they don't want to do any business
• 47:29
  Speaker 4: until they get back. And that's often why contracts don't
• 47:32
  Speaker 4: For the Seahawks, the big contracts get done the first
• 47:34
  Speaker 4: days of training.
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: All right, man, well what do you got on the
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: show today?
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: Gary Hill Junior, the Mariner's broadcaster, friend of our show,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: is on a lot. He's going to talk about the
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: first place Mariners, what went right in Oakland? This platoon?
• 47:49
  Speaker 6: What do we call it?
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: Piggyback?
• 47:50
  Speaker 6: I guess we still call it. It's going to be Sunday.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: The next iteration, Oh boy, yes, I learn Luis castiea
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: can slam stuff around on the dugout Benchgin on Sunday.
• 48:00
  Speaker 6: And we'll talk about that at eleven and we'll talk
• 48:02
  Speaker 6: about it.
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Chris is I just defer to Chris on NBA playoff
• 48:05
  Speaker 4: talk because he loved the sports so much. I don't
• 48:07
  Speaker 4: like it nearly as much at all, actually compared to
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: what he does. So we'll talk about the NBA Finals.
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: It looks like Nix and maybe Thunder Game seven for
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: Saturday night. Yeah, hey, g seven Saturday Night.
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: Whimby's going to be there, So I want.
• 48:23
  Speaker 4: The Floppers to win, so that the Knicks mopped them
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: up in the finals. That's that'd be a more seattle finished.
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: All right, Well, unwatchable, aren't they try? When I try
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: to watch it, my son, it's like these phantom It
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: looked like, say gildess Inter got hit by a truck
• 48:41
  Speaker 4: he was rolling around the floor last night and he
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: didn't get hit. Almost unwatchable, I guess.
• 48:47
  Speaker 2: Michael Wilbon brought that up yesterday on a show and
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: Jay Williams was so angry walked off the set and
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: yet whatever. All right, Greg, Well we'll be listening at
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: ten and we'll see. Uh, we'll crosspaths later on today.
• 49:02
  Speaker 6: All right, thanks'd be Friday, all.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Right, Greg Bell our Seahawks insider again on back on
• 49:07
  Speaker 2: our airwaves from ten to noon with Christopher kid here
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: at kJ R. Well, he brought up the magic word.
• 49:15
  Speaker 2: Obviously we're not beating a dead horse when the horse
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: is very much alive and running around the track. So yes,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I am going to talk about the piggyback again because
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: we're going to experience round three on Sundays. We'll talk
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: about that next Sports Radio ninety three point three kJ
• 49:33
  Speaker 2: R F M.
• 49:34
  Speaker 6: J R FM.
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: All right, it's Chuck Powell and it is Ashley Ryan
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: with you here on this Friday. I'm just gonna pull
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: the band aid off because I'm not even gonna soft
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: paul this. I'm not gonna soft play it.
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: Oh, piggyback, piggyback, piggyback.
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: Ah.
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: I was not prepared for that.
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: I just saw somebody and it's just a random person.
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: And again, I don't give too much credit to just
• 50:11
  Speaker 2: a random person commenting.
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: I don't give a crap about random people, that's right. No, no, no, no,
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: no no.
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: I try not to give too much credit to just
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: some random thought. And I'm sure the person was being joking,
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: like tongue in cheek, but like, really more piggyback softy,
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: isn't that?
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: Isn't that conversation over?
• 50:31
  Speaker 6: Uh?
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: And the answer to that is no, no, how would
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: it be over?
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 50:35
  Speaker 2: I mean we're, like I said, going into the last break,
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: you can't beat a dead horse when the horse is
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: not being beaten and it's alive.
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: Right and trotting around.
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's it's running, running around the track,
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: it's getting ready for another lap.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 50:49
  Speaker 7: I saw it do one of those little jumpy things right.
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: So no, I'm feeding a really alive horse, quite healthy.
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: So we're getting ready for another round of piggybacking with
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: the Mariners and it will be Miller and Castillo again,
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: and it's back to Miller starting and then handing it
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: off to Castillo. We have, of course, since from what
• 51:13
  Speaker 2: we are to understand, Jerry and Justin got involved to
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: make sure that both parties understand exactly what we're doing,
• 51:22
  Speaker 2: why we're doing it, how we're going to continue doing
• 51:25
  Speaker 2: it going forward, and there is hopefully an endgame to it,
• 51:30
  Speaker 2: but right now there's not an ideal solution. That's a
• 51:33
  Speaker 2: quote from Jerry Depoto. And they feel this is the
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: best way to keep both guys stretched out in case
• 51:39
  Speaker 2: they need them to be a starting pitcher at some
• 51:41
  Speaker 2: point later on in the season, and you often do
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: need more than five starters during the course of a
• 51:46
  Speaker 2: regular season. And they also believe it can be an
• 51:50
  Speaker 2: effective tool toward giving the bullpen mostly a night off.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: And Bryce Miller and Luis Castillo have both pitched really well,
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: and they're two attempts at the piggyback.
• 52:01
  Speaker 7: I mean, that's the thing is you can't argue with
• 52:03
  Speaker 7: how well it went last time. You can be annoyed
• 52:06
  Speaker 7: that the guys were annoyed and that Castillo didn't He
• 52:08
  Speaker 7: was angry and didn't want to come out, and Bryce
• 52:10
  Speaker 7: is uncomfortable. I get all of that, and you know,
• 52:13
  Speaker 7: I understand how it's uncomfortable, especially when we hear about
• 52:16
  Speaker 7: routines and all the things that these guys, you know,
• 52:19
  Speaker 7: are kind of slaves to. This would be one hundred
• 52:22
  Speaker 7: percent uncomfortable, But you cannot argue the fact that it
• 52:24
  Speaker 7: has worked. It is accomplished the things it's set out
• 52:27
  Speaker 7: to accomplish. They're pitching, well, the bullpen got a full
• 52:30
  Speaker 7: day of rest.
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and we went one in one, which is actually
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: a better pace than we're on overall.
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, by one. You know, we're a game under five
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: hundred right now.
• 52:39
  Speaker 7: Your offense does a little bit more in game one
• 52:41
  Speaker 7: and you're two and zero with the piggyback.
• 52:42
  Speaker 2: Yes, Miller and Castillo combined and seventeen innings via the
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: piggyback have a two point one two er, and that
• 52:49
  Speaker 2: is better than either of them individually. It's a third
• 52:52
  Speaker 2: of Luis Castillo's era when he's not piggybacking. So, yes,
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: we've discussed this at great length about how we don't
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: think on this show that it has been the disaster
• 53:04
  Speaker 2: that so many people are trying to paint it as,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: and I think a lot of good things have come
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: out of it, and a couple of things have been
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: rough and hopefully have been dealt with, and it'll be
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: smoother this go round against the Diamondbacks on Sunday. But
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: it's not a long term solution, no doubt about it.
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: Ryan Healy was on with Us Tuesday, now a Mariner's
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: television broadcaster and our weekly guest, and I asked the
• 53:31
  Speaker 2: former Mariner how he would proceed with the piggyback.
• 53:35
  Speaker 11: I don't think there's been enough to relegate one to
• 53:38
  Speaker 11: the bullpen. Quite frankly, I feel like both piggybacks have
• 53:42
  Speaker 11: been successful from the pitching side. What went wrong, in
• 53:46
  Speaker 11: my opinion, is that the plan can change based off
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: of what the game is showing you, amen, and I
• 53:52
  Speaker 11: do believe that there can be some slight alterations to
• 53:55
  Speaker 11: you that of, Hey, Luis, maybe you're not going to
• 53:57
  Speaker 11: pitch the ninth inning today because our offense only decided
• 53:59
  Speaker 11: to get one hit and score one run on a
• 54:01
  Speaker 11: fielder's choice, and we're gonna We're gonna bring in our
• 54:04
  Speaker 11: closer here because this one nothing game matters a lot.
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: And I'm not a manager, I'm not a big league manager.
• 54:08
  Speaker 1: That's a tough job.
• 54:09
  Speaker 11: But that was the first piggyback, and of course that's
• 54:11
  Speaker 11: the situation that they were thrown in as a coaching staff.
• 54:14
  Speaker 11: That's tough, and I hope that that's a learning lesson
• 54:17
  Speaker 11: that they make adjustments moving forward. But I have seen
• 54:20
  Speaker 11: the piggyback be successful in the two opportunities they've had
• 54:23
  Speaker 11: so far from the pitching side, and it's a lot
• 54:26
  Speaker 11: easier to stomach this process when the offense does what
• 54:29
  Speaker 11: it does last night and scores a lot of runs
• 54:31
  Speaker 11: and gives the pitching staff and coaching staffs some breathing rooms.
• 54:34
  Speaker 11: So let's make sure the the challenge here or I
• 54:39
  Speaker 11: don't even want to say the blame, but the you know,
• 54:41
  Speaker 11: the workload is shared amongst the roster, not just the
• 54:43
  Speaker 11: two guys that are in uncomfortable situations right now.
• 54:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, right.
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: And I don't agree on everything that we discussed at Tuesday,
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: but man, I'm with him on this, and of course
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: we talked about it before we even had.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Him on and I don't think he listens to the show.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so for him to kind of just parrot the
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: points that at both Ashley and I were making about
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: the piggyback, I mean that does I mean you do
• 55:09
  Speaker 2: like to hear people you respect and smart guys and
• 55:12
  Speaker 2: people have been in the league, and then they pretty
• 55:14
  Speaker 2: much say the exact same thing you've been saying. Yeah,
• 55:16
  Speaker 2: it does kind of bolster your opinions on it. And so, yeah,
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: I obviously agree with Ryan's take on this situation. I
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: think it's been more successful than it's been unsuccessful, which
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: I find hilarious that there are so many people out
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: there that think it's been an absolute disaster.
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: Well, and I don't even know where you're I don't
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: even know what ground you.
• 55:37
  Speaker 7: Have to stand on, because that's the thing is, there
• 55:39
  Speaker 7: is no ground to stand on with it. It's just
• 55:41
  Speaker 7: the annoyance of the situation. And then seeing the anger
• 55:44
  Speaker 7: and the annoyance from Miller and Castillo, they're like, well,
• 55:47
  Speaker 7: this isn't working, and can't actually look at the fact that, yeah, sorry,
• 55:50
  Speaker 7: it is. It's not a permanent solution, No way is
• 55:53
  Speaker 7: it a permanent solution, but for right now, Yeah, when
• 55:56
  Speaker 7: you have a long season ahead of you, and you've
• 55:58
  Speaker 7: got there's undoubtedly going to be situations where somebody could
• 56:03
  Speaker 7: get injured. I mean that happens a lot, and you
• 56:06
  Speaker 7: might need both those guys to be there ready to go.
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know.
• 56:11
  Speaker 2: I think it's just flat out hypnocritical to sit there
• 56:13
  Speaker 2: and say, look, you've angered poor Luis, and yet your
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: solution is to go put him in the bullpen.
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah maybe that's not. Maybe no, but it is.
• 56:23
  Speaker 7: And they're saying, but it's not about it's not about
• 56:25
  Speaker 7: hurting people's feelings. It's not about feelings. This isn't personal
• 56:28
  Speaker 7: blah blah blah. But then yeah, their counter argument is
• 56:31
  Speaker 7: that Louise is angry and Bryce is uncomfortable.
• 56:33
  Speaker 2: Right, So if it's not about personal feelings, then why
• 56:37
  Speaker 2: are you worried about a fit.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: I don't even mind the fit. No, I didn't either.
• 56:40
  Speaker 2: I get why Luise is angry about that. I was
• 56:43
  Speaker 2: pitching my best game of the entire year when Bryce
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: was pitching well in front of me. You kept him
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: in for longer than you were supposed to. You're starting
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: pitchers still care about wins. I know the analytical community
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: does not care about wins anymore, but starting pitchers still
• 57:00
  Speaker 2: want that win. So I liked the fire that I
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: saw from him, and I like the fact that finally,
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: I don't like the fact that they didn't have a
• 57:09
  Speaker 2: better understanding, both he and Bryce, but I do like
• 57:12
  Speaker 2: the fact that they have a better understanding going forward,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: and I think it's worth another try, and I think
• 57:19
  Speaker 2: that the merits of it thus far have outweighed the
• 57:23
  Speaker 2: detriment that we've experienced through the first two piggyback experiences,
• 57:29
  Speaker 2: and so we get ready for number three.
• 57:30
  Speaker 1: Now long term.
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: I heard Brett Boone on with the guys last night,
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: and I think he's right. I think long term you
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: do have to say eventually, and maybe not that far
• 57:41
  Speaker 2: into the distant future, like we just got to go
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: with our best guy, and I don't want to do
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: this much longer to Bryce, right, I.
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: Think Luis Castillo has earned this doubt.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: This doubt and Luis Castillo dates all the way back
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: to last season when we got to the playoffs and
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: they had plenty of opportunities to throw him in pivotal
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: games in the playoffs and decided not to. So this
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: doubt in Luis and him being one of our best
• 58:10
  Speaker 2: five starting pitchers has been alive for a while now,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: and so he's been our worst starting pitcher this year.
• 58:18
  Speaker 2: And he's looked better in the piggyback, yeah, for sure,
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: and yet he's still he's earned being doubted as one
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: of our best five starters. To me, Bryce has done
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: nothing since he came off the injury list, but mow
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: fools down and I don't want to put shackles on
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: Bryce going forward. I think Bryce is one of our
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: three best starting pitchers. He might be our best.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: And I know that's now.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: That seems like a crazy statement. He was our best
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: at the end of last year. He might be our
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: best starting pitcher. I wouldn't I wouldn't go to the
• 58:56
  Speaker 2: bank with that, but I don't eliminate him from the conversation.
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: And so as he's coming off the injury and he
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: was supposed to be building up his strength and now
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: the piggyback has kind of kept him from adding to
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: his pitch count going forward, I don't want to continue
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: to do that to him, especially if he continues to
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: dominate opponents. So I do think I agree with Brett.
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: He's the better pitcher and he needs to be pitching
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: every five days for the Mariners. So maybe this is
• 59:30
  Speaker 2: just one more time through the rotation, and you do
• 59:32
  Speaker 2: have to make a decision. But for right now, I
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: have no problem doing it again and then seeing if
• 59:39
  Speaker 2: we really can perfect it. Yeah, if we really can't,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: If we get another.
• 59:45
  Speaker 1: We do another.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, five innings for Bryce, four innings for Luis, we win,
• 59:50
  Speaker 2: we save the bullpen for another round.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: All of a sudden, it's looking like a really good idea.
• 59:55
  Speaker 7: You're gonna have a hard time convincing the Mariners. It's
• 59:57
  Speaker 7: not a good idea that happens, that's for sure.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 2: If it's a one nothing, two nothing game, two to
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: one game, and Bryce goes five and Luis goes three,
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: and then we go to Munos in the ninth and
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 2: close it out like you're supposed to do, then again,
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 2: we've ironed out the wrinkles on this dress and can't
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 2: wait to wear the dress again.
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 7: It is.
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 2: It's still an ongoing story because we're still doing it,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 2: and I think it's been better than it has been bad. Uh,
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: And I'm interested in seeing the results on Sunday and
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: where we go from here. But I do agree with
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 2: Brett I think ultimately you do have to make the decision.
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: We just got to go with the best guy right now.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 2: We got to go with the best five guys. That's
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 2: what we got to do. Whether that's one more turn
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 2: through the piggyback, two more turns, or maybe this is
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: the last one.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: We shall see, but right now we piggyback. Yeah, and
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: I am glad we're doing it.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: I'd be actually annoyed if after two and the second
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 7: one being as successful as if they were like, all right,
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 7: we're done. Because the guys are annoyed, I'm like, wait
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 7: a minute, then, what's your plan and what was the
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 7: point of the first two times if we didn't actually
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 7: glean anything from it?
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: All right, we'll talk more about the Mariners coming up
• 1:01:13
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• 1:01:15
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• 1:01:18
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• 1:01:20
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• 1:01:22
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• 1:01:27
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  Speaker 1: You know that the boss, you know, he had the
• 1:02:05
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• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: The gall to come to me and say, maybe you
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: should do the Oho more frequently this summer.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Did he really? Yeah about that? Like, you know, he
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: was there when we fought THEO Wars.
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he was a part of the battle, right, he
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: had a sword in hand, he started cutting away at it.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 7: Yeah, he was actually on the other side, I know.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: And then he's like, you know what, I kind of
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: miss the old days every day.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I miss having to forts Ashley into finding eight
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 2: clips during the course of the radio show every single day.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you like that wasn't that a lark?
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 7: I just I just remember when when we fought those wars.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: And we thought we'd settled something.
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 7: Yeah, we thought, and then we fought to keep Friday.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 7: All right, we'll get rid of all of them. We're
• 1:02:53
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• 1:02:53
  Speaker 2: We thought the community was satisfied. They were fat and
• 1:02:56
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• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: They say, all those lives lost, all that blood that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: was shedding for what?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: For what?
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 1: Well, we'll see.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 2: Well, welcome in on this Friday. We got your eight
• 1:03:11
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• 1:03:14
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• 1:03:17
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• 1:03:21
  Speaker 2: we're gonna begin with the NBA because they are going
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 2: to get their game seven. The Thunder could not close
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: out the Spurs last night. San Antonio won easily one
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 2: eighteen to ninety one over the OKC Thunder. Victor Winn
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 2: Binyama had twenty eight points ten rebounds during a game
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 2: that never became compelling. I wanted it to, never did.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: San Antonio was in control throughout. And so now we're
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: going to get a game seven on Saturday in Oka.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: See here's Seattle's own Mitch Johnson, head coach of the
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs, saying.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Bring it on.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 12: Tonight was do or die, and I thinks are going
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 12: to be happy. They say that's the best line in sports,
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 12: I believe. So we'll be prepared. Take the next forty
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 12: hours or whatever it may be, to try to get ready,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 12: get organized, and get ready to go into a hostile
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 12: environment against the defending champs in the Western Conference Finals,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 12: for a team that's done it multiple times and knows
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 12: exactly what they're gonna what it takes, and I would
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 12: expect to get their best punch. We're gonna go over
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 12: our eyes wide open and expecting nothing less.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 2: Spencer been following him around, has been creeping on Mitch Johnson,
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 2: his buddy.
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: I did not see Spencer last night, but I did
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 7: see him over the weekend wearing a pink T shirt
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 7: and a large cowboy hat.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: If it wasn't him, that's crazy, Yeah, exactly.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 7: Yeah, because I said the five iron, all that guy
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 7: looks like Spencer Hawes and he looks at me, he goes,
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 7: that is Spencer hawk Like, there's just another guy that's
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 7: gonna be at the Spurs game that's seven feet tall.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Wearing a cowboy hat.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Spence's gonna join us at nine o'clock. So
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 2: we'll find out the real story about whether or not
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: Him, yeah, or if he has a doppelganger in San Antelo.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 2: It would be odd to find a Spencer Halls doppelganger,
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 2: that's for sure. I would like to see like a
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: five foot two inch version of that look exactly like him,
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 2: but was five two.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: The fair I don't know that that version of him
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 7: was seven feet tall, right, he was in a crowd.
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: It's a lot taller than everyone around him.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: But you never know. Well, we'll find out.
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 2: We'll get to the bottom of that mystery today at
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 2: nine o'clock we'll speak to a Spencer himself and not
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 2: as doppelganger. As for the Spurs, I mean, I mean,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: it was just they kind of were in control. And
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this yesterday where OKC is so good is
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: their front office. They really only have one superstar and
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 2: a couple of other stars I guess, but their death.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: I mean, they've got ten twelve good players and they
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: can kind of come at you in different ways. And
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 2: when you get to the NBA Playoff, everyone will tell
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: you it's all about matchups. That's who wins the series.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: So if you have a team so deep and so
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 2: layered in terms of what they bring to the table,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: and all of them can shoot pretty well well, then
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: you've got a much better opportunity to match up well
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: against that opponent, and it's worked to this point, but
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 2: Wemby changes everything. There's no match up for seven foot
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: five that has thirty five foot range, three point shooting
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 2: range and can take one dribble from the hash over
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 2: by the coaches bench and dunk it. I mean, there's
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: no matchup for that guy. And I don't think it's
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 2: all that big of a surprise. Is that what he's
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: played well, they've won, and when he's played poorly, they've lost.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: And I think there are a lot of other people
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: out there that have said, I don't think it's that
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: big a surprise.
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: When Oklahoma City gets calls, that's what I was going
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: to and it goes.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 2: To the free throw line, they win, and when they
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 2: don't get to the free throw line, they lose. So
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 2: I don't know what's gonna give tomorrow night. Either way,
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be interesting.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna be tuned in. Yeahs ghostpur Gohostpert. I think
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 1: they got a great shot. I really do. I think they.
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: I think that I think in a game seven where
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: you're pouring it all in, they've just got that one
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 2: element that OKAYC doesn't have an answer for if he
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 2: doesn't play well, okay See will win if he plays well.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 2: I think san Antonio is gonna get him.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I'll be, you know, assistant secretary of the Wemby
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 7: Fan Club if.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 1: I need to be. He's got plenty. He's got plenty
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: vying for that, Pat so So Yes.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 2: Game seven tomorrow night, five o'clock in Okay See which
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: speaking of Oka, See, that's where the actual best game
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 2: of the night was played last night. Nine two out
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: at bats, no hits, oh for nine for Nebraska, big
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: pitch time and again for the Razorbacks in the center.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: By Kusack Chunson going back. It's done. It's Ava.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: Tou magic from Ava Cusack and it.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 3: Was worth to wait ten innings and twenty.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: Four years later Nebraska when it's in war up Kushi
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 4: up the world Series.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: Yes, been with the call last night. That game was fantastic.
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 2: I'm so glad that Game six was a blowout because
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 2: I only had one TV going last night and I
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: just went in to break and I went over one
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 2: of the commercial breaks and went over to watch them
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 2: softball and I did not turn it back.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: It was great.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 7: I'm mad I forgot that softball was on because I
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 7: still had that game on and just grabbed a book.
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: National College Player of the Year Jordi From and her
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Nebraska Corneskers capped off opening day of the College Softball
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: World Series with a dramatic five to three walk off win.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: A solo home run in the bottom of the seventh
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: tied the game at three, and then From worked a
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: scoreless eight to ninth to set up the game winning
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: walk off two run homer for a five to three
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 2: victory double elimination tournament making the first elimited nation games
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: to be played today, a doubleheader starting at four o'clock
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: with Texas and Mississippi State. Meanwhile, the men's Field of
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: sixty four just gets underway this morning at nine o'clock.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: The nearest region will be in Eugene, Oregon, where the
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: favored Ducks are gonna host Oregon State. Yale and the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: Coogs have made.
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: The Field of sixty four.
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 7: It's like in Sesame Street. One of these things is
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 7: not like the other. Where Dale come from?
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 2: Where did Yale come from? I mean, there wasn't a
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 2: California team you could have sent up here.
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: It seems odd.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: Yeah, but Yale, you're gonna go to Oregon.
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: But the Coogs in action today against the Beavers.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 2: I mean they are now brothers and sisters, Oregon State
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 2: and Washington State. They're linked seemingly in every single way. Now, yeah,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: they are, and yet they're going to battle in Eugene
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: today at noon to get their tournaments.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 7: But the nice thing for them is that one of
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 7: them will get a win in Eugene, which doesn't happen
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: very frequently.
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean not this year, but Oregon States. No,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, like just in general and sports. Oh, you
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: just mean in general, that's true.
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 2: That's true Oregon usually, and I guess I mean they
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 2: have in the same weather we are.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: They're going to have to dodge rain drops down there today.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: Great question. Actually, yeah, I have number three on your
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: road show.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 2: Speaking of baseball. First place Mariners return home after a
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: successful sweep of the Athletics in Sacramento.
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 1: You're right, we did what we set up to do.
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 1: I am ready to go. Yeah, well we're ready to
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: have you. Yeah, welcome home. Yeah, welcome back.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 7: We made the weather real nice for you.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: Welcome back to the shire.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 7: Thanks for all you did from thoh, yes, exactly. In
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 7: Kansas Nope, not in Kansas City.
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: So small but sober.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 2: In Sacramento, fifty seven games into the season, are the
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: AL West favorite Mariners finally ready to put it together
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: and pull away from a mediocre field of division rivals.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 1: Well, the first place Mariners are coming off that sweep.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: They've won six of their last nine, and of course
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: the incoming Arizona Diamondbacks are even hotter. They've won ten
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: of their last eleven to thrust themselves all the way
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 2: up and the National League West standings in between the
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: Dodgers and the Padres. So having a good year in Arizona. Now,
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 2: something's got to give here, obviously. And let's be honest, Diamondbacks,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 2: you've been beating up on the chumps of the National
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 2: League during your streak. You're not chumps, are you, Marion exactly?
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 2: I think the local baseball team is going to be
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: just fine here, but the Giant excuse me. The Diamondbacks
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 2: have faced in their last twelve games the two worst
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: teams in the National League, the Giants and the Diamondbacks.
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: Twelve games in a row against those two teams. That
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: seems like they know somebody that helped them out. Yeah,
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: credit to them. For winning those games.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: That's what you got to do, and beat the teams
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 2: you're playing exactly. And yet maybe they're in for an
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: eye opener tonight. We shall see.
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you got to think about this. If
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 7: you're if you have a snake that you need to kill,
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 7: what do you do? You stab it right there in
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 7: the head with the trident? Oh wow, and then you
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 7: put it, raise that up and show everybody I don't
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 7: like snakes.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: Well, look, this team has not done well seizing momentum
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: on the road and then coming home, yeah, and making
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 2: us feel like okay, things are okay. Now, that's usually
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 2: been a recipe for them playing their work.
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: First baseball of the year. You have no momentum, Mariners,
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: don't worry about it, So let's.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: Just snap that nonsense starting tonight. Get off to a
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: good start at home. Seven oh five, first pitch, two
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: right handers.
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: That's music to the year. Okay. Zach Gallen will go
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: for the Diamondbacks. Four eyes.
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 7: I always want to say, Zach Gallifanakis so kind of.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: And George Kirby will get the start for the Mariners tonight. Now,
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 2: is this the last major League baseball season before a
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: labor stoppage that's certainly in the background of a lot
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: of baseball fans' minds. The collective bargaining agreement is going
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 2: to come up, and Major League Baseball owners commissioner they're
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 2: going to try to get something accomplished that they've never
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 2: gotten accomplished and a collective bargaining agreement with the players Association.
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: Here's Jeff Passon talking about the game plan.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 13: For the first time in thirty years, major League Baseball
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 13: is going to propose a salary cap and the details
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 13: of that are going to be the interesting part. What's
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 13: the revenue split going to be, would it be fifty
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 13: to fifty, what's the top end going to.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: Be, what's the floor going to be?
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: And more than that, what are they.
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 13: Going to offer major league players in exchange for this
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 13: thing that they have vehemently opposed the entirety of the
• 1:14:15
  Speaker 13: existence of the union.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 2: As Jeff pass in the ESPN on the Pat McAfee show,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 2: And that was before we actually did get details. So
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: the owners and the commissioner have revealed what they're asking
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: for with the with the salary cap that they're trying
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 2: to get passed through the next collective bargaining agreement, and
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 2: Jeff Passen's right, we talked about it earlier.
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: Players have never gone for this ever and may not.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: They just may not. Bucky, he and I have had
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: numerous conversations. It will never happen. It will never happen.
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 2: And yet that seems to be the only thing on
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: the agenda. And so the salary cap would look like this.
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 2: That'd be a two hundred and forty five million dollars ceiling.
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: And it sounds like it's going to be a soft
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: so you would be punished if you went over it.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be a hard cap like they have in
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 2: the National Football League. It would be all It would
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: be more of a soft cap. Wait a minute, I
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: don't know if that's true or not. I don't know
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: if that's true. I'm gonna take that back. I'm just
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: gonna give you the numbers. Two hundred and forty five
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 2: million dollars would be the high. And the Dodgers right
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: now have a three hundred and forty million dollars payroll.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: That's one hundred million over so you can imagine what
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: they would have to do to get in accordance with
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: the new rules by next year. Yeah, you got to
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: cut one hundred million dollars from your payroll by next season.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: We'll just defer it to twenty eighty maybe.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: And then there's a salary cap floor as well. In
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: that floor, and I think this is a great idea too,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy one million. So that's gonna force
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: teams like the Marlins, who are ninety million dollars under
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 2: that threshold, they have to come up. So that's one
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 2: way to tell the players, like, Okay, we're gonna ask
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: teams to spend We're gonna ask them teams spend left.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: We're also going to ask everybody to spend more as well.
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 2: That's underneath it. So that's one way they're going to
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 2: do it. This will also involve combining one media source,
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 2: so that's why you see Mariners TV now and not
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Root Sports.
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: A lot of the teams are doing this.
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Major League Baseball is shepherding all of these organizations because
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 2: they eventually want to just have one package of Major
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 2: League Baseball teams television wise that they can present for
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: maximum revenue, and then they would share that revenue evenly.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 2: It wouldn't be based on market Right now, the Yankees
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: and the Dodgers have such a huge advantage over everybody
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: else because of their market size, so they can sell
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 2: their television package for a lot more.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 1: Baseball would get their arms around all that money and
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: then disperse it equally to all of the teams. That's
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: one way they would do it. So you know, I've
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: been against this my entire life. I'm for it now.
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: And for reasons of perception, baseball does not have a
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: problem right now. Product is good, It's very popular locally,
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: it's not popular nationally. So what does that tell you?
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Baseball does not have a revenue generating problem. Owners are
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: not having difficulty making money. Players get great contracts, the
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 2: best in all of sports. What baseball has a problem
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: with is their perception. Their customers believe the game is
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: unfair based on the financial structure of things, and so
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: it cannot grow nationally. Because fans of the Cleveland Guardians
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 2: won't watch the World Series because the Dodgers are in
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: it too frequently, and Guardians fans feel like they never
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 2: even had a shot against the Dodgers all season long,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 2: and so they won't watch national baseball. So from a
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: perception standpoint, Baseball's trying to change that, and I think
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: they're right to do so, Yeah, I.
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 7: Would agree with that. I do have a question, and
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 7: you don't necessarily have to answer it now, but just
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 7: something I was wondering. If the TV thing went how
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 7: they want it to and then you just do revenue sharing,
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 7: would that solve the issue? Because now you're taking away
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 7: the massive amounts of money that the Dogs and the
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 7: Yankees have. So if they came to an agreement on
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 7: that and maybe didn't agree on a salary cap, that
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 7: would still help maybe to even things out.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: It would help a lot. Okay, I've a pushed for
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: this for a long long time. It would it would
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: help a lot. Maybe it would make up for it entirely.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 2: If even if they have to settle for a soft cap,
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: We'll settle for a soft cap. Yeah, I mean they
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: sort of operate with one now. They have a luxury
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 2: tax threshold, so that's kind of a soft cap, but
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 2: maybe a harder cap than what they have, yeah, but
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 2: not hard.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 7: And then yeah, and then you have the revenue sharing.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 7: You're taking away the seven hundred and fifty million the
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 7: Dodgers get.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, in TV right now.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 2: I'm no lawyer, I'm no Matt Locke, you know, croning
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: my craft down there at Crackleberry quick. So I don't
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: know if I have all the answers, but just from
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: a philosophy standpoint, I think this needs to get done.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: We'll talk more.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: About it coming up at eight thirty, because it's been
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: my sup with you question today. If you had the
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 2: chance to vote for it, like in an election, would
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: you vote for a salary cap as a baseball fan?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 8: Yes?
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: Or no?
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: And then why We'll get to your answers at eight thirty.
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 2: Seahawks OTAs Round number one will wrap up today. The
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: media hasn't even been allowed access to Seahawks OTAs the
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 2: last couple of days. Greg bell, our Seahawks insider, was
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 2: on with us earlier this morning, and so I didn't
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: really ask him anything about Seahawks OTAs.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 1: You know what I asked him.
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 2: I asked him, is there still a belief in renting
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: that Sam Donald has a much bigger ceiling than he's
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: even reached to this point?
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: I think so, And it's because he led the league
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: in turnovers last year, and if he cuts the turnovers
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 4: even in half, his efficiency should double. I mean, that's
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: just common sense. If you don't turn the ball over.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 4: You've got twice as many chances to score if you've
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: turned the ball over half as many times, And then
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: it'll start there. And some of it is that Clint
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 4: Kubiak and Donald pushed the ball down the field and
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: we're having success doing it. Some of them was just
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 4: his ball secure. How many times did we see him
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 4: just get hit and the knock the ball out of
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 4: his hands. The San Francisco game inside the ten yard
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 4: line and the opener they lost the ball, the Tampa
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: Bay game where he got hit and the ball was
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 4: deflected for an interception in the final second, final minutes
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: of that game to set up the Bucks winning.
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: To the field goal.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 4: Just tighter with the ball would be enough to limit
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 4: his turnovers. But yeah, he wasn't perfect.
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 6: Last year.
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 4: He got him the Super Bowl, won the Super Bowl.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 4: But there's a lot he could improve upon, and it
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: starts with taking care of the ball and not turning
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: it over and handing scoring opportunities.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: The other team.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: R inside of Greg Bell. If you want to hear
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: the entire conversation, you can do so at ninety three
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 2: to three KJR dot com with our podcast. Also, he'll
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 2: be on today at ten o'clock, maybe he ends up
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: talking more about Sam Donald. Now I disagree with with
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: Greg on this issue, Hughes. I'm on the Hue side
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 2: of this issue. I don't even though Sam Donald committed
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: a lot of turnovers last year, I never reviewed him
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: as having a turnover problem a year ago. Sometimes it
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: just happens. Sometimes that's stuff that wasn't in his control,
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 2: So I never really viewed it. That said, I do
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 2: believe there's more upside for Sam Darnald. And if we
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: get the exact same Sam Donald that we got a
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 2: year ago, will take it, yes, please, But I do
• 1:21:19
  Speaker 2: believe he can be even better than he was a
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: year ago, and in a lot of facets of the game.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, and especially with the same team.
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 7: Obviously, I know you have a different offensive coordinator, but
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 7: I think he's continued to improve year over year with
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 7: different offensive coordinators anyway, So I don't know why it
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 7: would be any different.
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 2: All Right, We'll talk more football coming up a little
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 2: bit later on, because Matt Hasselbeck has a theory about
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 2: Ken Walker not being on our roster anymore, and we're
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 2: going to discuss that later on this hour. But let's
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 2: move on with the OCHO item number six. Stanley Cup
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 2: playoffs do continue. We're very getting very close to a
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 2: Stanley Cup final matchup. As a matter of fact, we
• 1:21:56
  Speaker 2: might need just one win away. That could happen up
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 2: and tonight and you know where it could happen. Carolina
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: can close out Montreal tonight and secure a Hurricanes Golden
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 2: Knight Stanley Cup Final.
• 1:22:09
  Speaker 1: They are eleven and one in the playoffs.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: The Hurricanes, I don't know how they are this good
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 2: without a single superstar on the team.
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: I don't either. It's crazy.
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 7: And I especially the way they came out in the
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 7: first game and they were a little rusty. I was like, oh,
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 7: oh Montreal might be might be ready to take this,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 7: but they were just rusty.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: They were just rusty. They got over that real quick.
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 2: M Yeah, so they got a chance to wrap it
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 2: up in five games. They will drop the puck tonight
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: in Carolina at five o'clock. And we are two weeks
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: away from the World Cup.
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: Well hate this place, geographicality.
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: Two weeks from everywhere, Yes, two weeks weeks from everywhere.
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: Two weeks we are, as far as I'm concerned, two weeks,
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 2: two weeks away from the World Cup starting on June eleven.
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 2: I don't know what the math is, but to me
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  Speaker 2: it's two weeks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not gonna correct you. Why bother?
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  Speaker 2: Actually you probably should Okay, yeah, we are future days
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  Speaker 2: because I'm going to keep doing.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, thirteen days Okay, yep, yeah, I think that's going
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 1: to have to be the relationship to think we have
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: no clue what we're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to have to do my little stupid petty
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: joke of where it's two weeks away and you're going
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: to have to actually give us how many.
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  Speaker 3: Days we are?
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  Speaker 7: Okay, thirteen days?
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  Speaker 1: Is it thirteing?
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 7: Yes, it's two weeks officially yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I don't usually like to get loose with math. I
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: like to stick with my facts.
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: By the way, the Sounders won't play another match until
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 2: the you're twenty seventy five.
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 7: When we looked at the schedule yesterday and I told
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 7: you they don't play untill July.
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 1: Jeez, middle of July. Wow, that is something.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 2: Finally, the Storm and Action they're going to play tomorrow
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 2: morning at ten am against the Toronto Tempo.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: So ten am. Start there for the Storm on a seat,
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: all right? There you go. There is your road show
• 1:24:02
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  Speaker 6: No?
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• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: us now. He's been joining us once per week throughout
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 2: the NBA Playoffs for a second year in a row,
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 2: and it's been a while because we had them on
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 2: I think last Monday as our day to have on
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: Spencer and now we're having them on the following week
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: on a Friday.
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: So it's way too long since we've.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: Caught up with local basketball legend Spencer Halls and our
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 2: NBA expert analysts throughout these playoffs joining us here on
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 2: Chuck and Buck.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: How are you, sir?
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 8: I was telling Ashley off the air, I'm a lot
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 8: better than I would have been if the series would
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: have ended last night.
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 1: Hope still alive? All right?
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 6: Now?
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: Clear something up for us? Was that you or was
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: that your seven foot doppel ganger that went to watch
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: the Spurs?
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 1: What was it game for?
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 8: That was game three? Yes? And that was me?
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:25:42
  Speaker 8: Confirmed?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 8: Was me yelling at Chet?
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: Thank goodness?
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 7: I would have been real worried if there was another
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 7: one of you, another seven foot tall Spurs fan.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah? What were you yelling at Chet?
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 8: Just you know, just things in the spirit calmdition. I
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: don't really remember. I was pretty excited.
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 1: Oh oh, I bet you didn't remember.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 7: Excited or inebriated, isn't it?
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 1: Isn't it crazy that?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Chet Holmgren's the seven foot one inch bit
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: of a freak himself, and he's just dwarfed out there.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: He looks like, you know, he looks like me standing
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: next to you when he's trying to guard wimby.
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 8: Everybody. I mean, he makes everybody look like that. And
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 8: I think usually when you when you have these outliers,
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 8: you kind of adjust to their physical profile or their
• 1:26:38
  Speaker 8: skill set or whatever they're doing out there. And it's
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 8: I've watched a lot of Vickers games since he's been
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 8: in the league. I saw a lot of them before,
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 8: and it's still hard to calibrate your eyes to the
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: things that he does out there and how he stands
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 8: out and a league that's full of mutants, he stands
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 8: above the rest.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So it's been pretty clear. I mean a
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: couple of things. When Wimby puts up big numbers, the
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: Spurs win. When he doesn't, the Thunder win. And then
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: also when the thundershoot a lot of free throws.
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  Speaker 3: They win.
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: When they don't, they lose. So as you get ready
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 2: for game number seven, what is going to be the
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: key to this thing? Keeping the Thunder off the free
• 1:27:21
  Speaker 2: throw line or the Thunder trying to figure out a
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: way to stop Wimby or not.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 8: I don't think it's the the thunder free throws as
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 8: much as because if you look at the series, the
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 8: Spurs have actually shot more free throws. I think a
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 8: lot of that has to do with their makeup, and
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 8: you know, their guards that want to live in the
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 8: paint versus Okase's guards, especially with their injuries, are more
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 8: spread out. But it's it's definitely stand out of bonus
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 8: keeping Shay out of the bonus where you get these
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: styles at thirty forty feet where he can just go
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 8: rack up free throws when they're not in an attack position.
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 8: But I loved Wendy's aggressiveness last night coming out. You know,
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 8: he was making the three, so those look better. I
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 8: would have liked to have seen him around the hoop,
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 8: but at least he was starting down there and not
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 8: not trying to initiate everything from outside the three point line.
• 1:28:17
  Speaker 8: So obviously that's the you know, he's the game plan
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 8: for both teams. I think Oklahoma City, when they're others
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 8: have made shots and played with confidence offense tends to
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: translate the defense and then they get a little more
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 8: juice on that end and kind of get rolling. So
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 8: I think it's really trying to for the Spurs, obviously,
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 8: get Vid going, get him going early and let him
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 8: open things up for the rest of those guys, and
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: then for the Thunder, it's you know, Shay still hasn't
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 8: had a big game or a legacy game. You know
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 8: that's in there somewhere. I personally hope that he punts
• 1:28:54
  Speaker 8: that for next season. At some point. I think it's
• 1:28:56
  Speaker 8: going to come down to the Battle of the superstars.
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 2: Is with us talking NBA playoffs here, as we will
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: get a Game seven of the Western Conference Finals on Saturday.
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: But you know, that first game between these two teams
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: was just one of the best basketball games that I've
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: ever seen in my lifetime. It was so entertaining, so
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 2: wildly entertaining. But since that time, you know, we've had
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 2: an average point differential of seventeen points. We haven't really
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: had that compelling theater. I mean, obviously an evenly match series,
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: but even the match from the standpoint, they just keep
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: alternating blowouts throughout this entire series.
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 1: I was talking a little bit earlier in the show.
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 2: I think it's unfair the critics of the NBA win
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: because I think today's game can be beautiful and maybe
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 2: as beautiful as it's ever been. I realize that it's
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: not as physical, but we do have incredible skill on display,
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 2: and when it's done right, I mean, it's as good
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: a basketball as you're going to fine, But I will
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 2: side with the old curmudgeon on his couch that doesn't
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: like the NBA Spencer. I certainly don't think it's as
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: tough as it used to be as physical it used
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: to be. I mean, and that is by design, But
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: does that have an impact on the players themselves and
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: their psyche when the thunder falled down by twenty points
• 1:30:22
  Speaker 2: and they know they have a game in pocket and
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 2: game seven will be an OKC.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 1: In the past, I think maybe a Jordan team.
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 2: Or a Charles Barkley led team would have fought to
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: try to get back and win that game. Where it
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 2: feels like today's athletes, if they've got that game in hand,
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 2: kind of roll over, like all right, let's not waste
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: our energy here on game six trying to come back
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: from a twenty point deficit. Let's save it for game
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 2: number seven. Do you think that there's anything to that?
• 1:30:48
  Speaker 2: Or am I being just a little confused? What would
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 2: you say to that?
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 8: No, I don't think they're rolling over. I think they
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 8: got to the point where they looked at the way
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 8: the game was going and the way they were playing,
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 8: and the math says this is the point when it's over.
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 8: I mean, the detail of it with the team's analytics
• 1:31:12
  Speaker 8: and at you know, at this point of the game,
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 8: if you're out by this and many even the probabilities
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 8: like they they're just playing the numbers, and they knew
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 8: about the middle of that fourth quarter that it's it's
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 8: not worth the potential energy or rolling the dice on
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 8: a twist ankle or something like that, where you know,
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 8: the Spurs did what they were supposed to do at home.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 8: They came out, they buried them. You know, Okay, see
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 8: was kind of sticking around at the end of the
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: first half. They came out in the third quarter and
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 8: buried them. And when that happened, that's kind of the
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 8: last you know, if you're defunder, that's what you know
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 8: that yes, is it plausible potentially, but it's probably it's
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 8: not probable. And I think this series when they let
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 8: him play, has been as physical as any that I've
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 8: seen a long time, and I think it's beautiful to watch.
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 8: And they've led the athletes determined it and not Tony
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 8: Brothers and the rest of his official cronies.
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 2: Do you think, though, there is a problem. I mean,
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: here you have this series everybody's looking forward to. We're
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: six games in, we've had one close game, even though
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 2: we're going to get a game seven. Do you have
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: a problem with the fact that we really haven't had
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 2: that many competitive actual games.
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 8: Well, it's kind of like the best worst series in
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 8: the fact that obviously these all year, these are the
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 8: two best teams in the league by every metric by
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 8: a healthy margin. They are in the midst of an
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 8: incredible seven game three DS match that I think just
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 8: as has gotten more and more interesting with the adjustments
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 8: and everything has it's gone along. But you know, this
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 8: is both the team has had huge point differentials over
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 8: the course of the season, disproportionate ones. They're use to win,
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 8: not only winning winning consistently, but when they do win,
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 8: they you know, they don't play with their food, as
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 8: we like to say. They they make sure that they
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 8: put a healthy enough distance where they're not going to
• 1:33:18
  Speaker 8: have to stretch down the stretch if they can. And
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 8: I thought that I definitely thought the games would be closer,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 8: but it's kind of both teams them of this is
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 8: how they win. And I don't think Game seven will
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 8: be a blowout. I hope it's not a blowout, because
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 8: it has the potential to be. You know, I know
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 8: SHA's going to come out aggressive early. You know Victor
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 8: is going to come out aggressive early. It's it's going
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 8: to be the tighten tightenan be Titan, and I think
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 8: it has a chance to be one of the best
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 8: games in a long time.
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: Well, we all know who Spencer wants to win this game,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: But who do you think is going to win?
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 1: And why?
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's tough because I obviously have
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 8: so many biases for many different reasons towards the team
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 8: in San Antonio. I think I think they're young players
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 8: with their lack of experience, I think they've grown up
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 8: a lot just over the course of this series, not
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 8: to mention this playoff run that they've been on. And
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 8: I think Victor is the best player, and I think
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 8: he's the best player in the world. And my kind
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 8: of general rule of thumb in basketball or really any
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 8: sport is it's game seven, win er go home. I've
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 8: got I'm the best player, and I hope I'm not
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 8: jinxing it like I said earlier. No, you know, Shay's
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 8: got a generational game in him. He's a two time
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 8: MVP for a reason, and I just don't want to
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 8: see it be generational to be she's twenty six free throws?
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 2: Again, how is your friend Mitch Johnson? How's he holding
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 2: up through all of this? This is really his first
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 2: experience with all of this, is he feeling the pressure
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 2: at all?
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 8: Uh? If he is, he's he's not really showing it.
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 6: You know.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 8: Mitch has always kind of been the cool hand luke
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 8: of the crew, and I think, uh, it's his nature,
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: it's his nurture, his his demeanors. He's always uh, he's
• 1:35:15
  Speaker 8: always kind of a consistent one. So I think he
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 8: was built for this. He was built for these moments.
• 1:35:21
  Speaker 8: And uh, you know he's he's prepared, he's confident. And
• 1:35:25
  Speaker 8: now you go put it on the line and see
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 8: what happens.
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 1: Where did your relationship with him start?
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 4: And uh?
• 1:35:30
  Speaker 1: And what has it been like over the years. I mean,
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 1: we knew he was your friend, but how close of
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 1: friends are you?
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 8: Well, we were both in each other's weddings. Okay, so
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 8: he actually he he hosted be on my eighth grade
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 8: visit to Oday. That was the first time I remember
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 8: really talking to him. I always looked up to him
• 1:35:52
  Speaker 8: because they you know him, Martell Brockman. They were all
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 8: kind of big kids on the vocal basketball circuit and
• 1:35:59
  Speaker 8: then became friends in high school and started playing with
• 1:36:03
  Speaker 8: each other on Friends of Hoop and then he's a
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 8: queen Anne here like myself, So the proximity helped and
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 8: been buddies ever since.
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 1: That's great, That's phenomenal.
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Spencer Aus is with us here as a local
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 2: basketball legend here in Seattle, of course you know that,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 2: and he's been our NBA analysts throughout the last two
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 2: NBA postseasons, and so as we get ready for the
• 1:36:28
  Speaker 2: Western Conference Finals here on this Friday, Spencer breaking it
• 1:36:32
  Speaker 2: down for you. And we haven't even talked about the
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 2: Knicks just yet. I mean, my goodness, I mean, how
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 2: did this happen? I said it earlier in the week.
• 1:36:40
  Speaker 2: I think they might be playing better than any sports team,
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 2: regardless of level, in the entire world right now.
• 1:36:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, to max out their abilities.
• 1:36:51
  Speaker 2: They seem to be doing it right now as a team,
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: and I'm just curious as to whether or not you
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 2: think they can sustain that for another series against heightened competition.
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: You know, it kind of it's it's a weird comparison
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 8: because it's a cross sports, but they kind of remind
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 8: me of this year Seahawks team, where you know, the
• 1:37:12
  Speaker 8: season starts and it's kind of like what do we got?
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 8: And then then it gets rolling. You're like oh they're good,
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 8: but we need to see it. And then they It's
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 8: like they just continue to get better and better throughout
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 8: the regular season, and then all of a sudden, they're healthy,
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 8: they got their whole roster, and they run through the playoffs,
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 8: you know, like a snowball going downhill. So I think
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 8: the rest versus Russ saying that is a position you
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 8: want to put yourselves in as a team. I think
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 8: you always you always choose the best, especially at this
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 8: point of the season. But this is what couldn't They
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 8: traded five first round picks for Michel Bridges, and they
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 8: made the big move for cat. This is what they
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 8: were shaping it up. Em betting on this kind of
• 1:38:03
  Speaker 8: core of shooters around Brunt and they can all switch
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 8: and defend and playing a every night. It's it can
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 8: be a different guy for them. You can do a
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 8: Josh Hart game one night and then you come back
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 8: and Landry Shampman is going nuts, you know, hitting threes
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 8: and locking up on the other end. So it's you know,
• 1:38:26
  Speaker 8: I think they whoever comes out of the Western Conference,
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 8: I think it is seeing a lot differently about playing
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 8: the Knicks than they would have been two or three
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 8: weeks ago, and that's what you want to see. A
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 8: championship team in any sport is one that gets better
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 8: and it's peaking at the right time, and they're exemplifying
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 8: that as much as any team in any sport. Yeah.
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've spent the entire year.
• 1:38:51
  Speaker 2: I think most basketball fans just expecting whoever comes out
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 2: of the West is going to win this thing. And
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 2: maybe Boston, if they're rolling, could possibly be a team
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 2: that could upset a Western team in the finals. But
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 2: no one gave Detroit a chance. No one thought about
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 2: the Knicks being able to do that. Hell, I was
• 1:39:11
  Speaker 2: just sitting at the bar the other day with a
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 2: guy watching the Spurs Thunder play and he repeated that
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 2: same refrain, Well, whoever comes out of this is going
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 2: to win. And I think that so many people have
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: just used that as the backdrop to this season that
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 2: we're accustomed to saying it, and yet here we get
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 2: closer to it. Is like, Hey, if the Knicks keep
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: playing the way they're playing, they're not losing to anybody.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, but I don't know if they can keep
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: playing that well, Spencer, but that version of what we've
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 2: seen from the Knicks whether or not they're playing a
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 2: team that's better on paper. If they keep playing with
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: that kind of efficiency on both ends of the floor,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: don't you think they win the championship?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and.
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 8: I agree with that. I think the question is what
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 8: is level of competition that that has allowed them to
• 1:40:02
  Speaker 8: present themselves in the light and in the way that
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 8: they're playing right now. That's obviously the million dollar question
• 1:40:08
  Speaker 8: I was. I was really disappointed in the Cavs. I
• 1:40:12
  Speaker 8: thought that they would I definitely didn't think they'd get Broomstick.
• 1:40:15
  Speaker 8: But you know, I've been waiting on that team to
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 8: take a leap since they've kind of put together this
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 8: current iteration of their core. And I think that you know,
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 8: obviously the Knicks are playing really well. How well will
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 8: know and when the finals started and they get to
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 8: a level of competition that is significantly higher in whichever
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 8: team wins on jeez, tomorrow night, it comes quickly this
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 8: nightment in the playoffs. So I haven't really gotten too
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 8: deep in the leads on like what Vegas is saying
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 8: about the next chances. I don't I don't love that
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 8: at this time of the year. But uh, they're a wagon.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 8: They're well coached. They're going to be probably as prepared
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 8: as any team going into the finals in a while,
• 1:41:02
  Speaker 8: with the with the rest that they've had off and
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 8: the time they've had to really scour through whichever team
• 1:41:10
  Speaker 8: ends up prevailing. And I'd be excited to fire a
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 8: Nicks scene right now. And I know that based on
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 8: the scenes I've seen out of coming out of Manhattan,
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 8: they are.
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, chalo May is fired up too, and that's
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 2: really important to all of us to know that Timothy
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 2: shallow May is excited. It's clearly very important, Spencer to
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 2: the national conscience to make sure that Timothy chalo May
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 2: is happy about the Knicks because we have to see
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 2: it every three seconds during the game.
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 8: Yeah, what happened is bench do owner and Spike League,
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 8: I mean, yeah, get back to the traditions. Like he
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 8: just like over all of a sudden, he's just taken
• 1:41:48
  Speaker 8: over the You're cliche not rushmore Knicks fan.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: I wonder if Spike Lee is like jealous, I wondered
• 1:41:55
  Speaker 2: in an honest moment, he's been like, what about me?
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: Been waiting for this my entire life.
• 1:41:59
  Speaker 8: I used to be the guy, all right, So that's
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 8: that's what doom does for you.
• 1:42:06
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly all right.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 2: So where are you gonna watch the game tomorrow? Are
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 2: you gonna be in Oklahoma? Are you gonna be on
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 2: your couch? You're gonna get together with uh the other
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 2: members of your you know, groomsman. Uh, what are you
• 1:42:18
  Speaker 2: gonna Where are you gonna be? Who are you gonna
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 2: be watching it with? And and and give us the lowdown?
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 8: DVD's basement at my house has had some pretty good juju.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 8: We had about half of our fantasy football league over
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 8: last night, of which coach Johnson has been the commissioner,
• 1:42:36
  Speaker 8: uh going on two plus decades. So shout out, shout out,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 8: NFA madness. We need the juju. We need to uh,
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 8: we need the band together.
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 2: I love that he's the commissioner of your fantasy football league.
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 1: Is any good?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 12: No?
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 8: He rules with an iron fist, but I guess that's
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 8: part of the course.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 1: But is he good at fantasy football or just good
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 1: at organizing?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 6: No?
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 8: He was terrible forever and he got a championship and
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 8: now it's like you can't say anything to him. So
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 8: it's it's kind of like, what what we're a little
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 8: worried about? If you go he gets a real one,
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 8: but that's a problem i'd look forward to having.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 2: Well he's now well, now you've shed a whole new
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 2: light on the finals. He has championship experience. I mean
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: that's been the knock on Mitch Johnson. He doesn't have
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 2: championship experience. But now we know he's won a fantasy
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 2: football title, so that's not going to be a factor
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 2: at all tomorrow or in the NBA finals.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 8: That's great to hear he's used to that level of pressure.
• 1:43:35
  Speaker 8: I guess.
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  Speaker 2: All right, man, well enjoy Thanks great stuff as always,
• 1:43:40
  Speaker 2: and we'll bug you next week.
• 1:43:43
  Speaker 8: All right, thanks for having me.
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: Spencer Oz joining us right here on Chuck and Buck
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: in the morning. All right, coming on next your ABC's
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  Speaker 2: of the MS Sports Radio ninety three point three KJRFM, Auburn.
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: You just get more at sunset and people.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Do like that, gravitate toward it.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 8: I love it.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they embrace, embrace it. Yeah, soak themselves in it.
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, people do like it.
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  Speaker 6: They do.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: All right, ABC's of the MS and I am at
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 1: the end of the alphabet. I do love it. When
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 1: we have X y Z to close out on a Friday,
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 1: it feels like something's working fate.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. So that's what we've got today. Now, the
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 2: bad part about that is hard to find matches for X,
• 1:44:32
  Speaker 2: y Z. The alphabet does have its limitations. When we
• 1:44:35
  Speaker 2: get to this tough part of the order, you've got
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 2: to be creative, uh, And so we'll start with X
• 1:44:41
  Speaker 2: x's for extreme ed.
• 1:44:43
  Speaker 1: I mean, it has been an extreme struggle, has it?
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 8: Not?
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 2: Against left handers, right against left handed pitching, we've had
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 2: a struggle. Maybe we've started to come out of it.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: We face Gauge Jump and Jeffrey Springs of the A's
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: and back to back games won both games. Rattled the bats,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 2: as my dad used to say, wait to rattle those bats, boys.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: We rattled those bats against all left handers in the
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 2: last two games. So maybe we're coming out of it.
• 1:45:10
  Speaker 2: Maybe we want to keep going with that. Maybe we
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 2: want to go to the other extreme as opposed to
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 2: avoiding left handers. Maybe we want to face left handers
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 2: right now, strike while the iron is.
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 1: Hot, bring it on, lefties. Well, we're going to.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 2: Face the other extreme here today because the Diamondbacks only
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 2: have one left hander that could possibly pitch this entire weekend,
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 2: and that's out of their bullpen. They have a left
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: handed starter and what Eduardo Rodriguez, but we're going to
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: avoid him entirely. So that means there's only one left
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 2: hander on the entire Diamondbacks roster. And he's not exactly
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 2: a household name either. Brandon Garcia is his name. And
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: so if we do struggle, particularly at home against left
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 2: handed pitching, doesn't sound like we're gonna have to worry
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 2: about that this weekend.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's all right.
• 1:46:03
  Speaker 7: I don't think, you know, we don't need to go overboard, right,
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 7: we got to face lefties two times in a row.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: I don't think we now need to be.
• 1:46:09
  Speaker 7: Like, you know what, that's all we need is lefties,
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 7: just lefty, lefty, lefty, No, bring it on, that's.
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 1: Right, ring afraid. So that's fine.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 7: We'll face some righty's throw a lefty in there if
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 7: you dare.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 1:46:22
  Speaker 2: And Brandon Garcia, I don't know, maybe they'll try to
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: work him one big inning every single game. It's not
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 2: like he's, you know, somebody that they count on regularly.
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 2: He's only pitched eleven games for them so far this year.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: Apparently we're a Mariner uniform. At one point even though
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: I do not remember him.
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 1: I don't either.
• 1:46:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we should not have to deal with left
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 2: handed pitching at all this weekend against the Arizona Diamondbacks.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 1: Why is for yen? Is that a form of money? Yeah? Okay, yeah,
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go with the end.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 2: I was going to try to maybe even make up
• 1:46:58
  Speaker 2: a word, because there's a synonym or a you know,
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 2: an urban dictionary word for money for like every letter
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: in the alphabet, except I don't know if we have
• 1:47:09
  Speaker 2: one for why.
• 1:47:10
  Speaker 1: I was gonna say yeast. It was just gonna make
• 1:47:12
  Speaker 1: one up. How's your yeast looking these days? I don't
• 1:47:17
  Speaker 1: think I want to answer that. Man, man, oh man,
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 1: the yeast is rolled.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 7: My pockets are full.
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 1: I just won my bet. That's a lot of yeast,
• 1:47:30
  Speaker 1: a lot of Yeah, you gotta do the money inside
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 1: while you're talking about it, dude, that's a lot of
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: yeast in there.
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, Marshawn makes things up and everybody thinks they're cool.
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: You know, how's your chickens and your whatnot?
• 1:47:44
  Speaker 1: Your chickens?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 1: Can I just say, you know, how's your yeast? You can?
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 1: People are gonna look at you like your nuts. I
• 1:47:51
  Speaker 1: think it sounds better than your chickens. Well, I think
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 1: I'd rather have chickens.
• 1:47:56
  Speaker 2: All right, anyway, let's talk to yeast. Let's talk money,
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 2: because somebody had made the suggestion about, you know, the finances.
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 2: It's such a long haul to get to the actual
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 2: money in baseball. I mean, when did you start following
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 2: I don't mean to pick on this person because I
• 1:48:13
  Speaker 2: appreciate them listening and they took the time to text in,
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 2: But did you stop following baseball in sixty three? I mean,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 2: do you know how much yeast these guys make? Do
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 2: you realize that the league minimum? Johnny Parada makes seven
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 2: hundred and eighty thousand dollars per year?
• 1:48:32
  Speaker 1: Seven hundred and eighty that's league minimum. Oh, he's so broke.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. And now do you know they still.
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 2: Get meal money, like they don't even have to spend
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: their own money when they're on the road, and it's
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: not a little amount they get like meal. There was
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 2: a guy by the name of Pat Kelly used to
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 2: play for the Whys for Yankees, and he my brother
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: used to work for the Yankees. And the story my
• 1:48:55
  Speaker 2: brother relayed to me was that Pat Kelly his first
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 2: year in the league because he didn't know if he
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: was going to have much of a career. He saved,
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 2: he only spent his meal money and saved his entire
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: salary and put it in the bank. Oh okay, So
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 2: then they get free shoes, and they get free back
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: they get free food everywhere they go.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: They get free food at the ballpark, they get free
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 1: food at team Mobile. They bring it to them before
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: the game, after the game.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: Like I mean, you're looking at once you tally up
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 2: all the free stuff they get. Not to mention, you know,
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 2: charter flights, you know.
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 1: I mean they're all.
• 1:49:33
  Speaker 2: Making a million dollars a year. That's why that's going
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 2: to be a bit of a battle. I mean, the
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 2: MLB is going to have to do a hell of
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: a job convincing them. Hey, look, this isn't about money.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 2: You guys in your union have always been about what's
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 2: in the best interest of future generations of this sport.
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 2: That's why you've always been such a good union. That's
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 2: why you've always driven such a hard bargain. I'm telling you,
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 2: we're not trying to screw you over over financially.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 1: We are going to pay you.
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: We're going to give you a fifty to fifty split
• 1:50:04
  Speaker 2: of the money. Right, We're going to pay you, but
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 2: you gotta play ball with us a little bit. Yeah,
• 1:50:11
  Speaker 2: if you really do want to take care of future generations,
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: we got to grow this game with our fans and
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: with globally and everything else. And the best way to
• 1:50:20
  Speaker 2: do that is to let our fans believe that every
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: city has a chance to win every year in Major
• 1:50:28
  Speaker 2: League Baseball, and it really comes down to the quality
• 1:50:31
  Speaker 2: of moves you make and the quality of play on
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: the field, and it does just doesn't come down to
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: whoever has the most yeast.
• 1:50:41
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Sadly I do.
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 2: So that's the fight that they're up against. But they're
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: also dealing with every single player in the Union is
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: a millionaire.
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I was like, what what are you gonna do?
• 1:50:54
  Speaker 1: Lock us out?
• 1:50:55
  Speaker 4: So what?
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, so I'll just I got money to say,
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 1: I got money to burn. I saved my meal money. Yeah,
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 1: good luck.
• 1:51:05
  Speaker 2: Trying to get into a financial battle with somebody sitting
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 2: on a mountain of yeast.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. I am laughing like someone with emphasma.
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 2: All right, finally, see is for Zanino Oh yeah, Because
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 2: here's the truth, and we are just about a weeko.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: Hopefully we're a week away from Cal Raleigh.
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 6: You know, caw.
• 1:51:34
  Speaker 1: My birthday's on Thursday. Yeah, come home.
• 1:51:35
  Speaker 2: Be a nice gift to be healthy and ready to go.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 2: I want a new oblique for col, a healthy oblique
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 2: for Cal for my birthday.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: And so he is right now.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 2: According to CBS, the target date for his return is
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: on June fifth. I mean, we're starting to play better baseball,
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 2: or at least it feels that way. We couldn't have
• 1:51:56
  Speaker 2: played worse through fifty seven games and yet still a
• 1:52:00
  Speaker 2: first place team, a game under five hundred, with our
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: best player having played.
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 1: Poorly so far this year.
• 1:52:08
  Speaker 2: The truth of the matter is, and he's not been
• 1:52:11
  Speaker 2: He's not been void of contribution. He has hit seven
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 2: home runs so far this year. He was on a
• 1:52:16
  Speaker 2: thirty home run pace when he got injured, which is
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 2: not sixty but thirty for a catcher. Still from a
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 2: power standpoint, I mean, Jay Buner was like, you just
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: keep doing this, No, no, Jay, But from a home
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: run perspective, and obviously he's a very good to grade defender,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: and he has a great teammate and they love him,
• 1:52:40
  Speaker 2: and so there's intangible, there are tangibles. Jerry Depoto told
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: us in spring training, if he has two eighty grades,
• 1:52:47
  Speaker 2: that's his power and his intangibles, and eighty is the
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: utmost grade in the scouting world for a baseball player,
• 1:52:55
  Speaker 2: you know. So that's something that's been missing and he's
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 2: always going to contribute to that to the team. But
• 1:53:00
  Speaker 2: the truth of the matter is, well, we've had behind
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 2: the plate so far this year prior to the injury
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 2: was Mike Zanino, and Mike Sanino was not a bad catcher,
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 2: but he was a strikeout machine. He'd hit the occasional
• 1:53:15
  Speaker 2: home run, and he'd give you a good effort behind
• 1:53:18
  Speaker 2: the plate, good solid defense behind the plate. Call a
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 2: decent game for you behind the plate. Cow calls a
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 2: great game behind the plate. And we obviously won more
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 2: than that. And so I'm not saying that to pick
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 2: on cal I'm saying that as another thing to be
• 1:53:33
  Speaker 2: encouraged by fifty seven games into the season, a game
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 2: under five hundred and yet somehow still in first place,
• 1:53:40
  Speaker 2: despite all of this that has gone sideways for this
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 2: team so far. I don't think it could be a
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: worse start based on the talent that we have on
• 1:53:47
  Speaker 2: this roster, and so if we can just clean up
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: our mentals and get Cow back to being Cow. He
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 2: doesn't have to be last year's Cow, but he does
• 1:53:59
  Speaker 2: need to be more than Mike Zanino for this team
• 1:54:02
  Speaker 2: because we're counting on that. Mike Zanino did a nice job,
• 1:54:06
  Speaker 2: he handled his game, but Cal Raley, we need to
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: be a star at minimum, maybe not a superstar. Maybe
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: he doesn't have to put up superstar numbers every year,
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: but we need him to at least be a star.
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: And so we get that back here in about a
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: week and then I think we're going pretty well. So
• 1:54:23
  Speaker 2: we're looking for better than Zanino right now.
• 1:54:26
  Speaker 1: Okay, that's what we're looking for.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: I mean, b t z btz all right. Coming up next,
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 2: we're gonna close out the week with uh booze news.
• 1:54:34
  Speaker 2: Do want to let you know that it's not just
• 1:54:37
  Speaker 2: cal celebrating my birthday next week also Colin Ray will
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: be doing it. He has decided to throw a big
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: giant concert at talalap Resort Casino in my honor, and
• 1:54:47
  Speaker 2: so if you would like to go to that, make
• 1:54:49
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