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Speaker 1: JEMs is the Gold Report.
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Speaker 2: Tonight, we'll show you for the first time the final
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Speaker 2: harrowing moments of the Bondai stabbings when the hero officer
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Speaker 2: Amy Scott drew a weapon against a killer, but there's
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Speaker 2: something else the people behind her. We've caught Chris Bowen
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Speaker 2: as well. Sky's Julia Bradley caught up with the energy minister.
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Speaker 2: Caught him out, in fact, at a voting station to
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Speaker 2: finally ask him about the giant blackout in Spain, which
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Speaker 2: experts say is caused by having too much wind and
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Speaker 2: solar power, just like Bowen is threatening here Watch's response
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Speaker 2: plus no wonder jew hatred has exploded under this government.
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Speaker 2: Jason Claire, the Albanezy government's Education Minister, gives his top
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Speaker 2: preference on his how to vote card to a Greens
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Speaker 2: candidate who has praised the hamas slaughter of twelve hundred Jews.
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Speaker 3: I too want to slit a sleeping country's throat.
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Speaker 2: Also tonight, Vladimir Putin calls for a cease fire war
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Speaker 2: with Ukraine just for his big parade in Moscow next week,
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Speaker 2: after Ukraine scared him by blowing up one of his
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Speaker 2: generals there. One of America's top generals and why Putin
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Speaker 2: should be scared, and plenty more, including Babby Joyce and
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Speaker 2: an assault at a polling booth by man claiming to
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Speaker 2: be kicking for multiculturalism. Why is the left so violent?
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Speaker 2: But first, the coalition campaign in this election has been shocking, incompetent,
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Speaker 2: flat footed, timid, incoherent, and today we saw Liberals already
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Speaker 2: attacking each other in the media, throwing blame Dutton's offers
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Speaker 2: versus the liberal headquarters attacks on shadow ministers. I'll talk
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Speaker 2: in a minute to James Cambell, who broke this exclusive
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Speaker 2: story in the News Court Papers. But even Opposition leader
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Speaker 2: Peter Dutton was talking today already about what went wrong.
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Speaker 4: History doesn't allow doovers. But is there anything that you
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Speaker 4: could have done differently?
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Speaker 5: We should have called out Labour's lies earlier on.
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Speaker 2: That's says I've worn for weeks actually, But the failures
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Speaker 2: obviously go much further. And I want to show you
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Speaker 2: two key moments that summed up for me that coalition catastrophe.
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Speaker 2: It is true conservatives are going to complain that it
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Speaker 2: is unfair to kick the campaign before the last votes
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Speaker 2: are cast as the moralizing people out there. But my
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Speaker 2: job is to call things as they are. But there's
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Speaker 2: also something else. If the Coalition draws a wrong lesson
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Speaker 2: from what now seems almost certain defeat, it is being
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Speaker 2: destroyed newted for years to come. And already I do
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Speaker 2: hear fake autopsies being written like this is today by
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Speaker 2: the Prime Minister.
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Speaker 6: The Liberal Party has become more and more right wing
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Speaker 6: underpleted Up. That's just the truth. They have been increased
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Speaker 6: right wing element.
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Speaker 2: Now well, that's actually false. In fact, Dutton isn'ts of
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Speaker 2: the hard right, or certainly hasn't shown it. I mean,
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Speaker 2: for instance, he still backs the disastrous global warming target
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Speaker 2: of net zero. He isn't even offering bigger tax cuts
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Speaker 2: than Labor is, which was certainly one of the biggest
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Speaker 2: mistakes in this campaign. What were the Liberals thinking promising
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Speaker 2: to actually scrap Labour's latest, tiny, tiny tax cut if
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Speaker 2: it won the election. I think it was too lazy
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Speaker 2: or proud or slow to react to Labour's surprise move there.
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Speaker 2: And what's more, it was exactly when Dutton was being
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Speaker 2: the so called culture warrior saying no to Labour's racist
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Speaker 2: plan for the Voice, for instance, that he was destroying
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Speaker 2: labor That is why he started this year actually head
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Speaker 2: in the polls, saying it cut immigration, he'd fly not
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Speaker 2: one three flags, but one. He'd even announced planned for
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Speaker 2: those nuclear power stations. All that and he was beating
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Speaker 2: labor in the polls four months ago and since then
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Speaker 2: it's crashed. Why what is the real explanation, Well, let's
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Speaker 2: start by looking at the poles, especially since December, from
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Speaker 2: virtually the day that Donald Trump took over as the
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Speaker 2: US president, the very day, Dutton's coalition started slide in
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Speaker 2: the polls and kept sliding as Trump went on a
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Speaker 2: rampage abusing the president of Ukraine, refused to rule out
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Speaker 2: even war to take Greenland from Denmark, hitting Australian the
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Speaker 2: rest of the world with damaging tariffs, and Labor jumped
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Speaker 2: on this ran a campaign of lies that Dutt was
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Speaker 2: a Trump himself and would sell us out.
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Speaker 7: Peter Dunton is going to back Trump over Australia.
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Speaker 2: Now, I said from the start, as you know that
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Speaker 2: Dutton should have picked the fight with Trump to tackle
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Speaker 2: that lay to seem his own man. He wouldn't and
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Speaker 2: a red Bridge pole today shock announce a shock insight
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Speaker 2: said voters now said that Donald Trump was the most
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Speaker 2: important thing in deciding who they oppose in this election.
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Speaker 2: Dunne or Alban easy the top reason, and the second and
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Speaker 2: third are more labelized. Had Dunton's nuclear reactors would cost
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Speaker 2: six hundred billion dollars and that Dutton would cut Medicare
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Speaker 2: to pay for them, total lies. Yet he is another
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Speaker 2: big problem. The Coalition seemed unable to call it out,
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Speaker 2: unable four weeks to say, well, hey, the real cost
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Speaker 2: is a fraction of that. It's more than one hundred
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Speaker 2: and twenty billion, not six hundred And you know, I
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Speaker 2: think that's because the Coalition had lost the courage of
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Speaker 2: its convictions since Christmas. It had stopped arguing for its
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Speaker 2: nuclear power stations for almost all the campaign, to even
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Speaker 2: hit its energy spokesman, Ted O'Brien, who knows this stuff
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Speaker 2: inside out, And so we got instead babbling like this
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Speaker 2: from the liberal spokesman, like in this case Coalition front
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Speaker 2: bench of Bridget mackenzie. That's so typified the Owlition campaign,
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Speaker 2: particularly in this issue, seeming uninformed or shifting about the
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Speaker 2: details the costs of what was in fact the Coalition
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Speaker 2: signature issue. This exchange sums up that debarcle. How much
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Speaker 2: will it cost?
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Speaker 1: How much is.
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Speaker 8: Construct We've had a model by Frontier Economics, which the
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Speaker 8: Labor Party also uses, and it has come out forty
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Speaker 8: four percent cheaper than the Labor Party's all renewable.
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Speaker 7: Response is a six hundred bion? Is it one hundred
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Speaker 7: and twenty billion? How many bion is it?
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Speaker 8: Well, it's two hundred and sixty three billion dollars cheaper
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Speaker 8: than labors.
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Speaker 7: You don't seem to be able to tell me this
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Speaker 7: is probably the problem, isn't it. You can't tell me
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Speaker 7: here and our viewers how much it's actually going to
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Speaker 7: cost to build these nuclear power plans.
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Speaker 8: At this election, it is a choice between the Labor
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Speaker 8: Party's all renewable plan for energy provision and ours.
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Speaker 2: See CSROO said it was one hundred and twenty billion.
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Speaker 2: Move on. How simple is that? But the Coalition is
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Speaker 2: now so scared of its own nuclear policy that Peter
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Speaker 2: Dutton today even pretended his nuclear reactors would either it's
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Speaker 2: just a minor issue, and that attempt just made the
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Speaker 2: Coalition seem even dodgier, weaker and half baked.
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Speaker 7: It's not been a huge issue at this election.
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Speaker 1: Cut of four against not.
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Speaker 5: I think people have prioritized other issues, and that's probably
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Speaker 5: where the campaigns concentrated.
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Speaker 2: In fact, on so many issues, the Coalition seemed to
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Speaker 2: lose any confidence in arguing for policies it fought for
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Speaker 2: last year, like it was suddenly ashamed of them, scared
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Speaker 2: of them having second thoughts, hadn't thought them through? Immigration
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Speaker 2: cuts really mentioned flying just one flag barely at all,
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Speaker 2: the defense policy so important, such a good fit with
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Speaker 2: Dutton stuff image not released until just last week, and
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Speaker 2: then without any details. You'll notice that the survey of
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Speaker 2: top voter issues I showed you earlier didn't include in
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Speaker 2: the top three he actually in the top four a
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Speaker 2: single concern about labor. Didn't include one of the issues
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Speaker 2: that had been hammered by the coalition, even though this
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Speaker 2: government has slash living standards, slashed our offenses, weakened our
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Speaker 2: electricity system, and led in a million immigrants, making housing
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Speaker 2: unaffordable for the poor. And that suggests that in the end,
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Speaker 2: there was no clear or memorable message in the coalition's campaign.
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Speaker 2: I mean you just take it. Slogan back on track
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Speaker 2: says nothing. I mean, labor could have used exactly the
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Speaker 2: same slogan. You wouldn't have known labor back on track. Instead,
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Speaker 2: Dunton offered a confusing shopping list of spending promises. I
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Speaker 2: bet most voters in the end couldn't tell you in
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Speaker 2: this blizzard of millions here and millions there and this
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Speaker 2: promise that prom couldn't tell you which were liberal promises
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Speaker 2: or labor ones. And that's the other telling moment of
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Speaker 2: this campaign. I want to show you the fogginess of
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Speaker 2: the Coalition message. There was no story to it and
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Speaker 2: nothing that was definitively liberal or conservative.
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Speaker 9: The last time Coalition won from opposition, Tony Abbott had
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Speaker 9: a very clear, simple slogan, stop the boats, end the waste,
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Speaker 9: repeal the carbon tax. People knew what they were voting for.
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Speaker 9: What does the Coalition stand for other than being against
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Speaker 9: Albin Easie.
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Speaker 5: Well Elie, We're for a cut of twenty five cents,
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Speaker 5: a leader in people's fuel, realizing the dream of home
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Speaker 5: ownership again.
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Speaker 2: We're going to cut migration.
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Speaker 5: Stop drugs and stop illegal tobacco coming across our borders.
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Speaker 5: More in defense as well, energy policy, about bringing more
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Speaker 5: gas in, about bringing baseload power in. We can bring
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Speaker 5: inflation down. We can help families get through this god
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Speaker 5: awful period. Of the last three years and help get
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Speaker 5: their own budgets back on track.
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Speaker 2: Oh dear, dear, Look, there are other problems to the coalition.
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Speaker 2: Ad Blitz, I mean, why run it so late when
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Speaker 2: millions of strands have already voted? And Peter Dutton, I
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Speaker 2: mean I like this man. He is an honest man
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Speaker 2: with a good heart. He is decent, wouldn't have occurred
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Speaker 2: to him to lie like Labour's lying lots of common sense,
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Speaker 2: but he does not have the common touch of Anthony Obnezi,
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Speaker 2: the non threatening approachability, the ease with people, these with
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Speaker 2: children that we saw today, which in this very uncertain world,
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Speaker 2: that counts for a lot. That liberals like to sniff
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Speaker 2: at the way that Albanezey kept talking about his fiance,
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Speaker 2: his upcoming wedding, doing even a Valentine's Day quiz with
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Speaker 2: his fiance and flaunting Toto the dog. But then he
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Speaker 2: realized far too late that they should have done something
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Speaker 2: similar for a Dunton and defined him humanize them, And
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Speaker 2: they rushed out his young son Harry during the campaign
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Speaker 2: to talk politics, which was too late and too obvious.
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Speaker 2: And what's that really tough enough to demand? A campaign
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Speaker 2: that was built on his message, one that worked. It
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Speaker 2: is now so critical that the coalition learn the lessons here.
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Speaker 2: It wasn't that they had policies that were too wing,
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Speaker 2: and some of them are actually very good policies. It's
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Speaker 2: the way they stopped arguing for them. It wasn't that
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Speaker 2: their nuclear power plan was bad. I think it's going
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Speaker 2: to be absolutely essential. It's going to be a crying
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Speaker 2: shame that for three more years now we will not
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Speaker 2: have nuclear power plans being proceeding because they will be inevitable.
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Speaker 2: The problem is that they ran away from pointing out
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Speaker 2: the lies that undermine this policy. And of course it
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Speaker 2: wasn't that they lacked policies, that just lacked the story
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Speaker 2: that defined them the big picture. They stopped showing they
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Speaker 2: were people of conviction, committed to a well thought through plan,
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Speaker 2: that they were confident and competent and brave. It was
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Speaker 2: if this Liberal campaign was being run by labor voters
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Speaker 2: at headquarters, labor staffers with no faith in what they
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Speaker 2: were selling, like vegetarians trying to sell steak. Now, this
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Speaker 2: is going to be a tragedy for Australia. I mean,
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Speaker 2: we've got a party that's been shocking a government looking
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Speaker 2: like now beating a party that's only been shocking at campaigning.
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Speaker 2: And today we were reminded that three more years of
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Speaker 2: labor will come into terrible costs. I mean, I'll give
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Speaker 2: you two examples from today. The Prime Minister finally asked
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Speaker 2: about the devastating total blackout of Spain and Portugal this
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Speaker 2: week because by having too much unstable wind and solar,
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Speaker 2: which is exactly the problem that we're warning that we've
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Speaker 2: been warned we will have. And he was asked too
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Speaker 2: about the warning from long term British labor Prime Minister
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Speaker 2: it's only Blair that is net zero policies of people
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Speaker 2: like him, we're irrational and bound to fail. But Anthony Albanez,
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Speaker 2: he seems blind and deaf and determined to push ahead
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Speaker 2: for three more years with his disastrous and net zero schemes.
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Speaker 5: Can you explain how your renewables focus plan will be
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Speaker 5: different to the policies that Blair's warnering about and may
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Speaker 5: have actually massively faltered in Spain.
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Speaker 6: Well, the first thing that I'll do is to reject
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Speaker 6: the characterization that you just raised, that the Liberal Party's
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Speaker 6: characterization our plan is for renewables back by gas backed
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Speaker 6: by batteries and back by hydra.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't work. And there was no sign either that
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Speaker 2: Albanezi will ever cut back on a spending, ever stop
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Speaker 2: adding to Australia's that year after.
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Speaker 7: Year have you given up on ever delivering another surplus
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Speaker 7: in the government you lead?
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Speaker 6: Andrew the last election, I didn't promise to deliver a surplus,
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Speaker 6: and we delivered too. And this year's deficit is twenty
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Speaker 6: seven billion dollars, but that's almost half of what was anticipated.
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Speaker 6: So we've worked really hard on budget savings, over one
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Speaker 6: hundred billion dollars that we've delivered during this term. The
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Speaker 6: last budget handed down by the coalition delivered not one.
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Speaker 7: So you can so can you deliver a surplus again?
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Speaker 6: What I won't do is to speculate what I will
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Speaker 6: do as say that we're being responsible economic managers and
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Speaker 6: will continue to do so.
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Speaker 2: Those savings are mythical and he will not deliver a surpace.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 2: I mentioned that story in the newscort papers the Day
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Speaker 2: of Liberals unnamed anonymous already bagging each other for the
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Speaker 2: disastrous campaign. Joining me is the author of that. James
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Speaker 2: Campbell of the Herald sunt James Great to see you again.
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Speaker 2: Great story. Who is blaming who?
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Speaker 11: Well, I think there's the backbenches are blaming the front benches,
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Speaker 11: and the front benches are blaming the leader's office, and
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Speaker 11: everyone's blaming campaign headquarters, and campaign headquarters is blaming the
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Speaker 11: ad agency in the out I know who the ad
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Speaker 11: agency is blaming because I don't talk to them, but
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Speaker 11: you get the picture. And the main criticisms, well, the
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Speaker 11: criticism of of the campaign is that the ads were
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Speaker 11: no good or not good enough, and even when they worked,
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Speaker 11: they weren't. They were the spending far too late they
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Speaker 11: should have been at that, they haven't learned modern campaign techniques,
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Speaker 11: that they haven't didn't do anything to deal with the
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Speaker 11: fact that they knew that there was going to be
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Speaker 11: criticism of Dutton. I mean after the Dunkly by election
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Speaker 11: where they went backwards during.
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Speaker 1: The course of it.
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Speaker 11: They knew that unless they found a way to soften
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Speaker 11: or manage Dutton's image, Labor had a lot of stuff
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Speaker 11: that they could bullets that they could fire at him
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Speaker 11: and those bullets would wound.
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Speaker 1: But they did nothing.
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Speaker 11: But the biggest criticism I suspect is that they just didn't.
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Speaker 11: They haven't worked the policy work wasn't done, or for
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Speaker 11: what if it was done, it wasn't released in time.
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Speaker 11: There's genuine confusion about how this has been able to happen.
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Speaker 11: I mean, the election date is not actually a mystery.
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Speaker 11: It was government's gone full term. If you haven't done
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Speaker 11: your homework both the end of the full term, you know,
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Speaker 11: you've got no one to blame about yourself. I mean,
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Speaker 11: if they'd gone to an election in the first year,
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Speaker 11: maybe there's an excuse, but it was always going to
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Speaker 11: be in May if it wasn't earlier, So they definitely
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Speaker 11: had to have it done by now, and it hasn't
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Speaker 11: really happened, and I don't personally really understand.
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Speaker 1: How that happened.
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Speaker 11: I think part of the problem was if they decided
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Speaker 11: they were going after a whole bunch of seats that
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Speaker 11: the Liberal Party has never had before, right, so they're
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Speaker 11: trying to break into a new country, so they needed
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Speaker 11: to understand what motivated those voters, what they would like
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Speaker 11: and what they wouldn't like, and that work wasn't done. Really,
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Speaker 11: I mean, you would never ever run a campaign that
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Speaker 11: you were trying to win people over in the outer
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Speaker 11: suburban areas of Australia. With a policy to sack forty
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Speaker 11: one thousand public servants. There's a reason why the Labor
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Speaker 11: Party runs on carts in its heartland every single election.
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Speaker 11: It's not for sentimental reasons. It's because it works. So
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Speaker 11: what were they thinking, You know, there were ways that
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Speaker 11: could have been handled. Likewise, did they think about what
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Speaker 11: the impact of work from home was. I mean, you
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Speaker 11: could argue about the merits or otherwise I work from home,
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Speaker 11: but the fact was, there's enough evidence out there that
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Speaker 11: a lot of people won't look at jobs without work
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Speaker 11: from home element. And then they came back and they said, oh, no, no,
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Speaker 11: it's only for public service. But it doesn't matter what
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Speaker 11: you say, it's what people hear. And in that one
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Speaker 11: they were hearing they want me to go back to
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Speaker 11: the office five days a week.
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Speaker 1: I don't like that.
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Speaker 2: No, thank you. But again, the kind of exss we're in,
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Speaker 2: it wasn't explained properly. It wasn't explained properly. They didn't
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Speaker 2: have the courage for the convictions that brought them to
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Speaker 2: that policy, and they dumped it, and so they had
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Speaker 2: the worst of all possible worlds. I mean, it's just incredible.
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Speaker 2: But they finally James, Why are these liberals having this
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Speaker 2: argument now through you in the papers when it can
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Speaker 2: only hurt their campaign?
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Speaker 1: Uh?
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Speaker 11: Well, perhaps I'm just an interesting guy to talk to.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe they just enjoyed getting things up
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Speaker 1: their chairs. I don't, I don't. I don't think that they're.
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Speaker 11: Doing it really a in a malicious way.
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Speaker 1: Bizarrely.
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Speaker 11: I think a lot of them are themselves genuinely bewildered
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Speaker 11: as to what has happened, and they're they're they're trying
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Speaker 11: to they're trying to process their grief.
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Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, And that's mague I did think.
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Speaker 2: And if they think one of them must have had
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Speaker 2: a factional angle. They claiming that Peter Dutton's office was
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Speaker 2: staffed by you know, hard right kind as types. I'm
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Speaker 2: not so sure there's evidence much evidence of that. But
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Speaker 2: James Campbell tremendous reader, which people go and have a
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Speaker 2: look at it on the website. I mean, it's sad
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Speaker 2: read if you're a liberal conservative. But thank you so much, mate,
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Speaker 2: Really appreciate your insights there. Well, the polls do look
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Speaker 2: grim for the coalition head of voting day on Saturday,
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Speaker 2: something like four to six points behind labor after preferences,
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Speaker 2: depending what pole you're looking at. But does that really
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Speaker 2: mean that all hope is lost?
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Speaker 3: Now?
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Speaker 2: I'm joined by Tom Connell, our Sky newthsephologists, the best
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Speaker 2: in my view, and it's not just because there's a
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Speaker 2: colleague on any TV station in the country, including the ABC,
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Speaker 2: and he will star of course in our election, not coverage.
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Speaker 2: I know Tom always blushes when I say that, but
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Speaker 2: it's meant I've said it personally as well. Tom, is
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Speaker 2: there any hope for the coalition?
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Speaker 12: Trying not to blush for the makeup Andrew it might
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Speaker 12: be helping me. Look, I think there is some we've
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Speaker 12: discussed before. For example, polling. Everyone knows it was wrong
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Speaker 12: in twenty nineteen, it was wrong in twenty two as
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Speaker 12: well online as primary by three or four percentage points.
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Speaker 12: The momentum against them is a huge problem. And I'll
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Speaker 12: get to polling in a moment. But if you're sort
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Speaker 12: of mapping out how will this be an unexpected good
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Speaker 12: night for the coalition and realistically in a minority sense,
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Speaker 12: I think here's what would need to happen. First of all,
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Speaker 12: they'd need overall gains in teals and Greens. Now obviously
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Speaker 12: the main game for them is winning seats off labor
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Speaker 12: because that closes the gap. But if we think of
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Speaker 12: those teal and green seats, they lost a whole swaye
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Speaker 12: of them last time on a very very good night.
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Speaker 12: Perhaps they get four or five of them overall Victoria
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Speaker 12: as well, they.
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Speaker 4: Need to swing there.
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Speaker 12: They need the right swing though, so think of the
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Speaker 12: smaller margins Chisholm and mcuwen at three four percent, and
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Speaker 12: then they need their bigger swings out in places like Gordon.
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Speaker 12: So what they need there is an efficient swing andrew
20:47
Speaker 12: the right amount in the right areas. They don't need
20:49
Speaker 12: anywhere wasted swings. And if you do that you can
20:52
Speaker 12: have the national mood not so much in your favor,
20:54
Speaker 12: but win seats. That would apply in New South Wales
20:56
Speaker 12: as well. Again, they're going to have some swings there.
21:00
Speaker 12: I don't feel like there's an overall mood in New
21:01
Speaker 12: South Wales of being swinging towards them, But it doesn't
21:04
Speaker 12: mean they can pick up a few seats such as
21:07
Speaker 12: I'll go to them in a moment where were ben
21:09
Speaker 12: along read even if the overall swing isn't big to them.
21:12
Speaker 12: So those Victorian and New South Wales they need the
21:15
Speaker 12: right swings in the right areas, and then Queensland this
21:18
Speaker 12: is where Labor's actually eyeing a few off. They can't
21:20
Speaker 12: afford losses, so once they're going backwards anywhere, that's where
21:23
Speaker 12: they're in trouble. So some of the bigger margins they're
21:25
Speaker 12: targeting as well, These will be needing to either be
21:29
Speaker 12: in their corner or close if they're a chance, because
21:32
Speaker 12: these are the outer suburbs Peter Dutton's been targeting that
21:35
Speaker 12: you alluded to there where were in Sydney five point
21:38
Speaker 12: three percent, Dunkly in Melbourne six point eight percent, Hawk
21:41
Speaker 12: seven point six percent. That's also in Melbourne, and so
21:43
Speaker 12: is Gorton at ten percent. So some big margins. I'm
21:46
Speaker 12: not saying they all have to go, but if we
21:48
Speaker 12: see to swing on in those types of seats, then
21:51
Speaker 12: you're saying, okay, the out of suburban strategy might just
21:53
Speaker 12: be working.
21:57
Speaker 2: Well, gee, I'm looking at ten percent swing. I wouldn't
21:59
Speaker 2: want to be bitting my future on overcoming that given
22:04
Speaker 2: the overall polls. But these days elections are very tightly
22:09
Speaker 2: targeted in marginal seats. That makes them very hard to read.
22:14
Speaker 2: But look at the polls overall since December, when and
22:19
Speaker 2: where have they fallen for the coalition and what does
22:22
Speaker 2: that tell you about this election?
22:25
Speaker 12: I think the biggest issue in what it tells us
22:27
Speaker 12: is that momentum you alluded to that time frame there
22:31
Speaker 12: that in recent years we haven't had such a savage
22:35
Speaker 12: swing from one side to the other. So if we
22:37
Speaker 12: look through it newspoll, now, I'll actually just go just
22:40
Speaker 12: before December and November, so Labor the fifty two percent
22:43
Speaker 12: forty eight to two party preferred, that's three percent towards
22:46
Speaker 12: it in three percent against the coalition.
22:47
Speaker 4: Obviously that's decent enough.
22:49
Speaker 12: But look at the primary change for the coalition since then.
22:52
Speaker 12: That's what's significant Because all this talk of preference flows
22:56
Speaker 12: and that could matter, and that might be added in
22:58
Speaker 12: the hope column if you like Andrew one Nation preferences
23:01
Speaker 12: might swing a bit better or flow a bit better
23:03
Speaker 12: for the coalition. But when we look now at the
23:04
Speaker 12: coalition's primary in November, forty percent in news poll thirty
23:10
Speaker 12: five percent, Now that's a huge reduction and actually gets
23:13
Speaker 12: them below the last.
23:14
Speaker 4: Result in the election.
23:15
Speaker 12: So the concern here for me on that is the
23:18
Speaker 12: trend and also that it's been everywhere in terms of
23:21
Speaker 12: the state. Some has come off every state, including in
23:24
Speaker 12: Victoria where they were on track to make clear gains
23:27
Speaker 12: of five to.
23:28
Speaker 4: Six seats plus. And now it needs to be that
23:30
Speaker 4: efficient swing I spoke about. The other issue is the issues.
23:33
Speaker 12: Themselves where mark where voters are sort of deciding which
23:37
Speaker 12: party is better.
23:38
Speaker 4: So I'll go through some of them providing quality healthcare.
23:41
Speaker 12: Look, maybe you go, yeah, this is Labour's thing, Anthony
23:43
Speaker 12: Albaneze and and his Medicare card. But the Coalition matched
23:47
Speaker 12: that huge spend that even the AMA said wasn't a
23:50
Speaker 12: good use of money, that RACGP said it wasn't a
23:52
Speaker 12: good use money. The Coalition matched it, and it hasn't
23:54
Speaker 12: helped them. Look at the gap there, and who thinks
23:57
Speaker 12: they'll get better health care from help with cost of living? Again,
24:00
Speaker 12: this is something where the Coalition has got in arguably
24:02
Speaker 12: a bidding war with labor.
24:04
Speaker 4: So it's spent a lot of money and not got
24:06
Speaker 4: much gain from it.
24:07
Speaker 12: It does have gained from defense if you look at
24:10
Speaker 12: this huge gap. And yet if they're going to cash
24:12
Speaker 12: in on this, arguably should they have released their defense
24:14
Speaker 12: policy earlier. Then when they did, they've got a clear
24:18
Speaker 12: lead there, so Australians trust them, but you know what
24:20
Speaker 12: about the detail lowering taxes for Australians.
24:23
Speaker 4: This is one that will have them concerned.
24:25
Speaker 12: Seven percentage points lower than the Liverpool Party and again
24:29
Speaker 12: wading deep into it to talk about Lomito tax cut
24:32
Speaker 12: they were giving.
24:32
Speaker 4: And then this might be the big.
24:34
Speaker 12: X factor that we might talk about a lot dealing
24:36
Speaker 12: with Donald Trump and the uncertainty. This is harder for
24:39
Speaker 12: Peter Dutton Andrew to be fair to sort of just
24:42
Speaker 12: assuage voters. But thirty nine percent compared to thirty two
24:45
Speaker 12: and that X factor in the campaign. I think the
24:48
Speaker 12: sort of events, dear boy events, that's the one that's
24:51
Speaker 12: hurt the coalition.
24:54
Speaker 2: I think that last slade is the wrong headline on it.
24:57
Speaker 2: It should be standing up to Donald and that's where
25:01
Speaker 2: I think pitted Upton should have made a criticism, even
25:04
Speaker 2: if it seemed undiplomatic. Tom any surprises you expect on
25:09
Speaker 2: election note or from this campaign look.
25:12
Speaker 12: One thing to really look at for It's happened in
25:14
Speaker 12: past elections, but is pre poll and postal vote. It
25:17
Speaker 12: looks like they will grow again and there is a
25:19
Speaker 12: chance that.
25:20
Speaker 4: This does really correct seats. The likelihood would be Labor
25:24
Speaker 4: could be in the lead.
25:25
Speaker 12: On two party preferred, but if that lead is two
25:27
Speaker 12: or three percent in a seat, that won't necessarily be safe.
25:31
Speaker 12: So we're going to have to be a little bit
25:32
Speaker 12: cautious on the night. Look like, I try to get
25:35
Speaker 12: out there and be front leading. Nobody wants to see
25:37
Speaker 12: someone sitting on the fence if you like, while you're
25:39
Speaker 12: on the touch screen, but there'll just be a little
25:41
Speaker 12: note of caution on that, so it to be worth
25:43
Speaker 12: watching later on. Some of those contests could get bigger
25:46
Speaker 12: corrections than we've seen.
25:47
Speaker 4: Before at a federal level.
25:49
Speaker 12: The other one is just all the different moods in
25:51
Speaker 12: different states. Tasmania could actually be pickups for Labor. You
25:55
Speaker 12: know last time around, Peter Gatwin and Scott Morrison were
25:57
Speaker 12: still popular. Queensland could be too. Victoria that could still
26:01
Speaker 12: be savage for later. I mean they hate the state government,
26:04
Speaker 12: so we'll see how much that's gone back. And then
26:06
Speaker 12: places like the Northern Territory, I mean that could be
26:08
Speaker 12: two pickups for the coalition. Those seats swing hard, so
26:12
Speaker 12: we won't just get a uniform mood.
26:14
Speaker 4: I'm sure of that.
26:14
Speaker 12: On the night there'll be different states to look at
26:17
Speaker 12: different areas in those states as well. So the Hunter,
26:20
Speaker 12: I think is going to be a better area this
26:22
Speaker 12: time around than Western Sydney for the coalition.
26:24
Speaker 4: So the usual scripts, if you like, and narratives.
26:27
Speaker 12: Could be somewhat upturned on election night when we look
26:30
Speaker 12: at different areas of the country.
26:31
Speaker 4: I think the suburban one has to be one to watch, right.
26:33
Speaker 12: So if this is the strategy to replace the inner
26:35
Speaker 12: city seats, is it working.
26:38
Speaker 4: Maybe it comes in the form of seat.
26:39
Speaker 12: Pickups, but maybe it's also bigger swings and a classic
26:43
Speaker 12: two election strategy.
26:44
Speaker 4: To get a two election strategy, you've got to win something.
26:47
Speaker 2: Look, yeah, made, I've got my fingers Crofts there for
26:52
Speaker 2: because I simply don't like that deal person there. That
26:55
Speaker 2: Kuyong will be one pickup, not necessarily as long as
27:00
Speaker 2: not a teal. Tom Cole, you're going to be really
27:02
Speaker 2: busy on electure night. Have a great call of the
27:05
Speaker 2: card and I'll be talking to crossing to you a
27:08
Speaker 2: couple of times during the night. Good luck, Thank you
27:10
Speaker 2: very much. After the break. Chris Bowen, we've found him
27:14
Speaker 2: and confronted him today. Has been hiding from the campaign
27:18
Speaker 2: from his energy's disasters and Anthony ALBINIZI just laughs when
27:23
Speaker 2: he's caught out lying again. You've been caught out on.
27:27
Speaker 13: This along I have been, you have.
27:30
Speaker 2: I'll say this a lot fand Toby Joyce. After this
27:38
Speaker 2: breaking news Chris has Risen Energy Minister Chris Boone has
27:42
Speaker 2: emerged from hiding. He's been hiding all this campaign to
27:44
Speaker 2: be ambush by scars Julia Bradley and he was finally
27:49
Speaker 2: asked what he learned from the terrible blackhouse of all
27:51
Speaker 2: Spain and Portugal on Monday. A disaster cause by having
27:54
Speaker 2: too much wind and solar power. A disaster that Dr
27:57
Speaker 2: Ardie Patterson, a former head of Australias New Science and
28:00
Speaker 2: Technology organization, told me last night was coming to Australia.
28:05
Speaker 2: Under Bowen's policies.
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Speaker 14: We are on a road to failure. There's no doubt
28:11
Speaker 14: in my mind. We saw that in Spain just in
28:15
Speaker 14: the last twenty four hours. What happens with an unstable
28:19
Speaker 14: wind plus solar grid runs into a problem of having
28:24
Speaker 14: too much. The whole thing falls over catastrophically. Every expert
28:29
Speaker 14: who is running the grid that we are trying to
28:32
Speaker 14: run in the way that we're trying to run it
28:34
Speaker 14: knows that it cannot be done.
28:36
Speaker 2: A serious warning from a serious expert. But Chris Bowen
28:39
Speaker 2: did a bit of a Sergeant Schultz. We or nothing
28:43
Speaker 2: about Spain, nothing as yet, and then attacked doctor Patterson.
28:47
Speaker 6: There isn't an expert involved in running our o energy
28:49
Speaker 6: system who thinks the coalitions plan is vaguely sensible or practically.
28:53
Speaker 4: What about the open letter.
28:54
Speaker 10: There's fifty signatories experts as well well.
28:57
Speaker 4: There people who have been long term advocates of Nicolopoweer.
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Speaker 4: That's no surprise.
29:03
Speaker 2: Joining me is Nationals front bench of Barnaby Joyce, the
29:06
Speaker 2: former Deputy Prime Minister and our Thursday regular Barnaby. Honestly,
29:13
Speaker 2: when you see that, you can understand, can't you why
29:16
Speaker 2: our power system is in such trouble. Here's a bloke
29:20
Speaker 2: that cannot look at clear evidence from Spain and clear
29:25
Speaker 2: warnings from one of our top power experts and learn
29:30
Speaker 2: the lesson. You've got to pull back or wear stuffed
29:32
Speaker 2: and we're going to get the polls are right, three
29:35
Speaker 2: more years of this guy.
29:38
Speaker 15: You know, Andrew, I hadn't found one person who says, gee,
29:43
Speaker 15: I'm really looking forward to another three.
29:45
Speaker 2: Years of Minister Chris Bowen, that's what I want.
29:49
Speaker 15: That's what I'm blowing forward in my heart. I'm going
29:52
Speaker 15: to the pole and put in my box saying I
29:55
Speaker 15: want three more years of Chris.
29:59
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what it was not just Spain Andrew.
30:01
Speaker 15: It was the whole Iberian peninsula that went down, the
30:05
Speaker 15: whole Iberian Peninsula. And they said it was atmospheric conditions,
30:09
Speaker 15: whatever that means. What we are seeing is quite clearly
30:14
Speaker 15: that reality is in physics has won this debate. You
30:19
Speaker 15: cannot run a nation on intermittent power by its very nation.
30:23
Speaker 15: It's not renewables, it's intermittent. It happens sometimes, doesn't happen,
30:27
Speaker 15: happens in other times, happens in kind a little bits,
30:30
Speaker 15: then doesn't happen at all. And when you do it,
30:33
Speaker 15: you resign your nation to destitution. And obviously what we
30:39
Speaker 15: saw was the Iberian Peninsula, for which all your good
30:42
Speaker 15: people listening know. So you go from the Pyrenees right
30:45
Speaker 15: all the way back to the English Channel, all that area.
30:47
Speaker 15: They had a little example of medieval Europe, little example
30:52
Speaker 15: of evil Europe, just what it's like to live without power.
30:56
Speaker 15: And we hear in the reports the police were out.
30:58
Speaker 15: Thirty thousand police were out because the criminals were out.
31:01
Speaker 2: No power, and we're doing this to ourselves.
31:05
Speaker 15: We're doing this to ourselves. We're going to this election
31:09
Speaker 15: and we're going to say I want to be like Spain,
31:14
Speaker 15: I want to be like Portugal. I want to be
31:17
Speaker 15: black like that. I want my nation at night to
31:21
Speaker 15: look like that at night. It's it's mad, it doesn't work,
31:27
Speaker 15: and you know, and Minister Bowen steps up there and iisle, oh.
31:32
Speaker 1: We've got to do it.
31:33
Speaker 15: It's all it's we've got to stop this. We've got
31:36
Speaker 15: to we're going to join with the world, even though
31:39
Speaker 15: the world's not joining with us, even though China was
31:42
Speaker 15: never there, you.
31:42
Speaker 2: Know, looking transitive. But Bannaby, if we want reliable power,
31:50
Speaker 2: that is emissions free, if you really believe in we've
31:52
Speaker 2: got to go net zero, you have to go nuclear.
31:55
Speaker 2: And that's going to be the tragedy if labor comes in,
31:57
Speaker 2: because I know they take a while to be but
32:00
Speaker 2: now we can add three more years to before we
32:03
Speaker 2: can actually even start to think about building them. So
32:06
Speaker 2: this is one of the tragedies. But then, as Anthony
32:08
Speaker 2: Albanez is lying about the costs of those seven unclear
32:11
Speaker 2: plants that you've been talking about six hundred billion dollars,
32:14
Speaker 2: he claims, when these know it's I know it says
32:19
Speaker 2: it's a fifth of that. Look you know it's rubbished.
32:22
Speaker 2: I know it's rubbish. Only now though, do I hear
32:24
Speaker 2: it even being called out by radio presenters as the
32:26
Speaker 2: message finally got through them one in Perth to Day.
32:29
Speaker 2: But I want you to watch how shamelessly are but
32:31
Speaker 2: easy when it's called that. He keeps smiling and smirking
32:36
Speaker 2: like he knows that lying works anyway, or it's all
32:39
Speaker 2: a big game. Have look at this.
32:42
Speaker 13: That's not mate, you say this, it's not you know
32:46
Speaker 13: it's not. You know it.
32:47
Speaker 9: I know it is.
32:47
Speaker 13: You know it's not.
32:48
Speaker 2: No, it's not. You've been called out on this a lot.
32:51
Speaker 13: You have been You have six hundred of saying this
32:53
Speaker 13: a lot which has been four he keeps saying six
32:57
Speaker 13: hundred and.
33:00
Speaker 1: So this is the thing.
33:01
Speaker 2: A maounaby. Those guys lie like butter wouldn't melt in
33:05
Speaker 2: their mouth, and you guys haven't been quick in picking
33:09
Speaker 2: up the lies encountering them or your campaign as well.
33:13
Speaker 15: I have to look, I have to command on your network.
33:15
Speaker 2: I have to Comman David.
33:16
Speaker 15: Littl Pratt, who did a very good interview with Laura Jays,
33:19
Speaker 15: basically saying for the Fourth State, the Fourth State has
33:23
Speaker 15: got to do their job to hold truth to power
33:28
Speaker 15: and to say what you're saying is a lie. What
33:31
Speaker 15: that've done, ladies and gentlemen, is that to come up
33:33
Speaker 15: with this fantastic number, which they do all the time.
33:36
Speaker 15: The Eland Rail's going to cost thirty one billion dollars BS.
33:39
Speaker 15: Down gown dams going to cost one point three billion
33:42
Speaker 15: dollars BS. The nuclear power stations are going to cost
33:47
Speaker 15: six hundred It's like Dr Evil off one of those
33:51
Speaker 15: one of the movies, you know, Dr Evils, coming out
33:53
Speaker 15: and say, oh, six hundred million dollars BS. What they did,
33:57
Speaker 15: ladies and gentlemen, is they got There's like they got
34:00
Speaker 15: a turbo charge Porsche and multiplied it by seven and
34:06
Speaker 15: said that is the price of every car in Australia,
34:10
Speaker 15: which we know is absolute Bumpkin. It's also a lie,
34:16
Speaker 15: a lie. They're not telling you the truth.
34:18
Speaker 2: And they do.
34:20
Speaker 15: Get by and smirk, you know, and we've got a car.
34:26
Speaker 15: You guys don't listen to their lives, don't listen to
34:30
Speaker 15: their bs don't be that naive.
34:33
Speaker 2: I totally agree, Bannaby. I totally agree that the media,
34:36
Speaker 2: parts of the media have totally forgotten they're in the
34:40
Speaker 2: truth business, right. They were all fact checking Trump, Oh,
34:43
Speaker 2: fact check Trump, tractic Trump. They didn't wouldn't even fact
34:47
Speaker 2: check their own Prime Minister. Point one point two is
34:50
Speaker 2: why you guys were so slow on this. I think
34:52
Speaker 2: Peter Uton is right. But you go and have a
34:54
Speaker 2: look at the Trump White House. Now they've got a
34:56
Speaker 2: re response team on social media. The very next second
35:00
Speaker 2: hour they've got a correction. You guys didn't do that,
35:03
Speaker 2: And I think the liberals and Nationals have got to
35:06
Speaker 2: think about this in future. If Liza now the currency
35:09
Speaker 2: of labor election campaigns Barnaby Joyce, thank you so much
35:13
Speaker 2: for talking to us. After the break, Vladimir Putin is
35:16
Speaker 2: spooked by the Ukrainian assassination of a top general in Moscow.
35:20
Speaker 2: One of America's stop generals says, there's got a lot
35:23
Speaker 2: more to worry about after this. Well to vision never
35:34
Speaker 2: before seen by the public that was released day by
35:37
Speaker 2: the inquest into the Bondai Junction mass murder. A year ago.
35:41
Speaker 2: Six people were killed. Now how many times these days
35:45
Speaker 2: we see some tragedy, some emergency, and people just standing around,
35:50
Speaker 2: you know, filming on their iPhones, expecting someone else to
35:54
Speaker 2: actually do something. So it is powerful to see from
35:58
Speaker 2: this vision how the heroic Inspector Amy Scott not just
36:03
Speaker 2: rushing in without any police support to find and confront
36:07
Speaker 2: the killer, but being followed hard on her heels by
36:10
Speaker 2: a crowd wanting to help her, including two French tourists
36:14
Speaker 2: wanted to help, although they themselves were unarmed. Well, they
36:18
Speaker 2: found the killer, Joe Cauchi, who at first ran away
36:21
Speaker 2: with his knife. I mean, how lucky was one shopkeeper
36:24
Speaker 2: wandering out of his shop right in the killer's path,
36:27
Speaker 2: could have been killed. But then Couchi turned and ran
36:31
Speaker 2: straight to Amy Scott. How little time did that woman
36:34
Speaker 2: have to defend herself? A couple of seconds of Couchi
36:37
Speaker 2: to run six meters, she fired three times, hit him twice,
36:40
Speaker 2: and the nightmare was over. Now everyone says Inspector Scott
36:44
Speaker 2: was the hero, and she was. When you look at
36:47
Speaker 2: that footage, you also see that heroic to are those
36:50
Speaker 2: people who, without guns themselves or a sworn duty to
36:55
Speaker 2: step in and help, actually backed her in such danger.
37:03
Speaker 2: Now to an astonishing story. Why is Jason Clair, the
37:09
Speaker 2: Albinizi government's Education minister, favoring a Greens candidate on his
37:12
Speaker 2: how to vote card who has actually defended the horrific
37:15
Speaker 2: massacre of Jews by the Hamas terrorist group. They must
37:21
Speaker 2: the Greens Party candidate for the seat of blackslth, which
37:24
Speaker 2: is held by Labor Minister Claire is Omar. Saker is
37:28
Speaker 2: a pro Palestinian radical and a poet of violent trash
37:31
Speaker 2: like this, put.
37:33
Speaker 3: Your mask on, get vaccinated. I don't care what's in it.
37:37
Speaker 3: I too want to slit a sleeping country's throat. Virtue
37:42
Speaker 3: signals let's be villains.
37:44
Speaker 1: But worse.
37:45
Speaker 2: On October eighth, twenty twenty three, one day after Hamas
37:49
Speaker 2: terrists invaded Israel, slaughtered twelve hundred people, beheaded, men, raped, women,
37:54
Speaker 2: kidnapped even children, days before Israel even hit back, this
37:59
Speaker 2: Olma called it Harmas's most ambitious and successful resistance action
38:04
Speaker 2: in decades, and said he grieved for these terrorists, grieved
38:09
Speaker 2: for what had been done to them, and were they
38:12
Speaker 2: be forced to resort to that, forced to rape and
38:15
Speaker 2: to murder even babies. And this Sakka is the man
38:19
Speaker 2: that Jason Clare, how many is his education? Minister says
38:23
Speaker 2: it's his favorite guy on his ticket after himself, deserving
38:27
Speaker 2: his second preference, joining mister Panel Eveland, Ray Farmer, former policeban,
38:31
Speaker 2: Sky News regular and jameson Fuster from the late debate
38:34
Speaker 2: here on sky News. James, what would you say to
38:38
Speaker 2: Jason Clare?
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Speaker 16: To paraphrase the most famous Jew of all time? I
38:43
Speaker 16: would say, what does it profit a man if he
38:45
Speaker 16: gains the seat of Blaxland but loses his soul? I mean,
38:49
Speaker 16: why would you put as your preference someone who has
38:52
Speaker 16: said these things, supporting her mass, demonizing Jews, and to
38:56
Speaker 16: just add to that, he said that Australia is illegitimate
38:59
Speaker 16: country and that we're all racist. I mean, Jason Claire
39:02
Speaker 16: will be the hardest working member of Parliament because he
39:04
Speaker 16: certainly won't be sleeping at night.
39:06
Speaker 4: How could he.
39:07
Speaker 16: What this demonstrates, so Andrew, is if Labor are prepared
39:10
Speaker 16: to do deals with the Greens to win single seats
39:13
Speaker 16: around the country, then would we really believe Anthoney Albanezi
39:17
Speaker 16: would not deal with them in order to have power
39:19
Speaker 16: over the whole nation?
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Speaker 2: I don't think very good point, very good point, Evelyn.
39:24
Speaker 2: What did you make of it?
39:26
Speaker 4: I'd like to.
39:27
Speaker 10: Ask Jason if this is what they mean when they
39:30
Speaker 10: insist that diversity.
39:31
Speaker 15: Is our strength.
39:32
Speaker 1: You know, I think every day we're exposed to things
39:34
Speaker 1: like this which just go to show this.
39:37
Speaker 10: Idea of multiculturalism is just an unattainable delusion at this point,
39:42
Speaker 10: and you know proof is in the pudding.
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Speaker 2: Look, I'm embarrassed that this session has been cut so
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Speaker 2: very short with some late breaking news. I apologize to
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Speaker 2: you both. We'll do more with you next week with
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Speaker 2: the post mortem of the election. Thank you, Evelyn Ray
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Speaker 2: and Jameson first and apop ologies and sorry if you're
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Speaker 2: not bringing you the story of the guard that assaulted
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Speaker 2: the one nation, the one Trumpets of Australia, whatever it is,
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Speaker 2: Trumpets of patriots candidate, bring you that later. That's it
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Speaker 2: for me now, Sherry Markson. Good Night,