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#304: Invasion of the Body Snatchers (1978) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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  Hello, what's your least favorite scary movie?
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  Welcome to What's your least favorite scary movie?
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  The Podcaster. We talk about the good, the bad,
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  the ugly and the absurd and all of our favorite.
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  And the least favorite scary movie?
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  Because we believe every horror movie rightfully has its fan
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  base. We don't always get it.
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  My name is Travis My. Name is Jessie and yay it's our
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  Patreon voted episode. They had you all you all hedged
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  into. I was going to do that shriek
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  for this. Dude that like it rang we have
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  the metal in here. Fucking looks like vibrating
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  from that right there. We have sound dampening tiles
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  and it goes. Like somebody like unsheathed
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  their fucking sort of like shing.
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  So today we're talking about Invasion of the Body Snatchers.
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  Yes. 1st, I have one announcement and it's that we
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  did our to be or not to be this past weekend, so make sure you
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  check that out. Yes, we talked about Jacko.
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  It is a movie about a killer pumpkin man.
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  Indeed it is, and that one went off the rails hard.
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  Yes, we did not stick to the script.
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  No, but it was fun. It was.
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  I had a fun time and with it. Check it out, I recommend.
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  One more and it's we're gonna do our rapid fire reviews of the
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  movies we've been watching this month.
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  Yeah, we left off after the 4th. So on the 5th we watched Night
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  of the Demons. That was your pick?
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  It was a familiar movie. Yeah.
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  Always a good time. I love that movie pro Quigley.
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  Yeah, pro Quigley in this. House pro Quigley good Halloween
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  movie how I gig. The 6th I chose unfriended.
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  I love that movie. Yeah, cuz I just, I wanted, I
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  wanted teens turning on each other, stuck in a single
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  location. It's fun.
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  It's just a Yeah, this is a fun time.
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  It is. The seventh was your new pick,
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  and it was VHS Halloween. Yeah, VHS Halloween.
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  That was a good one. You know, it's been a while
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  since we watched one of the newer ones.
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  And, you know, I think it's funny.
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  I feel like they've completely abandoned the VHS of the entire
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  franchise. Like we're a guy like modern
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  like cell phone stuff now and you.
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  Know what, though, I like, I liked the wrap around story this
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  time. You did.
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  Yeah. That's one thing that I struggle
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  with a lot of the VHS ones is the wrap around that they have
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  for it. But this one I thought was just
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  really fun. It had nothing to do with the
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  tapes, but. No, it's.
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  It was a good time. Diet Fantasmo.
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  Yeah, I would. I honestly I might try the diet
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  fantasmo you. Know I'm a Phantasmo 0 kind of
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  guy. Same great flavor as Phantasmo.
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  On the 8th I picked a new one for us and it was companion.
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  That one, I like that one. Yes, that was pretty good that
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  it went in a completely different direction than I
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  expected. Yes, we knew what, like, I don't
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  think it was even that much of A twist, but we knew that going
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  into it and we're still caught off guard at certain points.
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  And Sophie Thatcher is just amazing.
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  Jack Quaid is always fun. I love seeing Harvey Gillian on
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  the screen and oh God I forgot his fucking name.
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  Whatever. It's entertaining, yeah.
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  I definitely, if you're, if you're going in thinking it's
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  gonna be like your standard, is that a spoiler?
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  We didn't think it was a spoiler.
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  Yeah, I don't know, but it's not whatever it.
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  Does say that like the ninth was your familiar pick and it was
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  funnel girls? Man, I love that movie.
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  It's just, it's just a fun movie.
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  Yeah. It's good at the horror.
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  It's good at the comedy. I like it.
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  On the 10th, I was feeling Halloweeny.
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  I was feeling bloody. We watched Sheriff Art, too.
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  Yeah. That's always a good time.
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  You guys can listen to our full review on that.
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  And on Final Girls and Unfriended and Night of the
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  Demons. Actually, most of these, Yeah.
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  You know, it's just, it's a good time.
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  Yeah. And then last night, oops, I
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  spelt it wrong. We watched a new movie that you
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  picked out after looking around for some suggestions online.
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  It was a French movie, Meandre. Meandre or Meandre?
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  Go into that blind. Yeah, for sure.
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  I I was just looking for a movie where you, it's somebody trapped
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  in a single place and they have to like, play like a game or
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  like fight for their survival type thing.
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  And that's all you need to know about this.
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  Yeah, I actually I liked it. I liked it, it was not at all
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  what I expected. Yes same.
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  Definitely go into it blind. Go blind makes a big difference,
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  but yeah, it's if you like claustrophobic movies.
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  Oh, God. So there were several times
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  where I was just like, no, no. Like those scenes?
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  In this scene, it's that times 11.
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  Yeah, cranked to 11. Yeah.
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  All righty. And that's it for that.
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  Hey, you know what, everybody? We got a poll this week, yay.
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  And it's because yesterday. It was such a busy day and we're
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  like, fuck it, we'll record tomorrow.
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  And I was like, hey, since we're pushing back our recording date,
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  let's go ahead and do a. Poll Why the heck not?
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  All right, so we did Silent Hill last week on the show.
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  We wanted to ask which was scarier, Pyramid Head, the
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  darkness or religious cults? So 29% say Pyramid Head was
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  scariest, 29% say the darkness was scariest, and 43% say the
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  religious cults. I would say probably because
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  religious cults more realistic for people right now.
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  Yeah, I was going to say I'm going personally with the
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  religious cult because we've witnessed those in real life.
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  Yeah, we're from the South, people.
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  It's not strangers to this shit. And I actually learned when
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  Meander finished last night that Season 2 of Shiny Happy People
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  is now on Prime, so I'm gonna have to watch that.
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  Shiny Happy. People, it's about the Duggars,
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  but also like the religion that they're part of, which is a
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  super, super fundamentalist sect of Christianity.
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  That sounds terrible. Yeah, there's, there's a lot of
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  stuff you I think another similar, well, no, keep sweet,
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  Pray and Obey is about a even more fundamentalist cult of
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  Mormonism. So there's just, there's a lot
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  of documentaries out there on religious cults, and they're all
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  frightening. OK, All right, enough of that.
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  All right, we're ready to roll into Invasion of the Body
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  Snatchers. So this was a movie that we put
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  as an option for our patrons to vote on.
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  So thank you all for that. If you would like to be a patron
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  and have voting privileges, you can find the link to our Patreon
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  at the very bottom of our show notes, $6 a month gets you
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  budget tier and you get things like stickers, shout outs,
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  voting privileges. Usually we'll tell you guys the
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  schedule early depending on how we record and how we come up
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  with schedules. And bonus episodes.
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  And bonus episodes, which this month, we're really excited
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  about it. We're gonna play a game.
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  Yeah, I'm gonna say for now because it will be a couple of
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  weeks still because we've got Scare Fest next weekend and
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  that'll see. Us down, yeah, but I'm excited
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  for it. I'm looking forward to it, yeah.
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  So this was this was a new movie for both of us.
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  We both knew what the movie is about and we know the iconic
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  ending. Yeah, the the vote for this
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  month was classics that neither of us had watched, so it's
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  between this and The Omen and yeah, Invasion of the Body
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  Snatchers 1. So Invasion of the Body
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  Snatchers was released on December 22nd, 1978.
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  We watch it on HBO Max. You can watch it on Prime or
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  rent it from Google TV. It was written by WD Richter and
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  Jack Finney and directed by Philip Kaufman, music by Danny
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  Zetland and special effects makeup by Edward F Enriquez and
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  Thomas R Berman. Starring Donald Sutherland as
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  Matthew Bennell, Brooke Adams as Elizabeth Driscoll, Jeff
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  Goldblum as Jack Belichick, Veronica Cartwright as Nancy
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  Belichick, Leonard Nimoy is Doctor David Kibner and Misty as
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  Harry's dog. Yeah.
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  Pooch. Yeah, pooch.
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  Funny enough, Harry doesn't have a credit on IMDb, or at least
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  he's not credited as Harry, so I could not tell for sure who his
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  actor was. So the dog was actually on there
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  though. Yeah, I had an IMDb.
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  Credit, yes. Yes, I love her on that.
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  Misty, she's a boxer mix. Good.
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  That was a good dog. It did a good job back.
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  Yeah, and I've got, I've got a fun fact about her in a minute.
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  I can't wait. Yeah, time for our favorite
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  game. Budget or budget, I am going to
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  say bug Ted. In fact, it was bug Ted.
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  OK. And I'm going to look up the
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  conversion. OK.
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  What currency are we dealing with here?
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  Are you doing like inflation? Inflation.
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  Oh, OK. So it is.
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  It was three and a half million in 1978, which is equivalent to
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  over a billion dollars today. I don't believe that.
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  Yeah. No way.
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  No, no, I don't. No fucking way.
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  There's no way. Are you kidding me?
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  No way. No way.
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  I mean, the Internet could be wrong.
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  The internet's been wrong plenty.
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  Of that inflation calculator. Hold on a second.
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  What? What?
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  Year was the 2nd, 1970. 8/19/78 Are you sure you did this right?
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  How much? 3 million. 3,500,000. 350000 How
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  many zeros is this? God damn. 500, yeah.
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  That did it right. I think, wait, yeah, three comma
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  500, comma 000. OK, Yeah, look.
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  Hold on. Hold on one. 1-231-211-2123,
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  Jesse. It's 17,000,000.
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  Oh. Travis, I'm not an accountant.
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  God, I'm also not wearing my glasses, which is probably not
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  helping. $1 billion budget for this thing.
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  Well, for $1 billion, this better be one hell of a fucking
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  production. OK 17,000,000 my bad.
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  Opening box office 1.2 million Worldwide Gross 24.9 million.
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  I'm not doing any more. God damn.
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  How many billions is that in in today?
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  Money. The Force. 7.4 out of 10 on
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  IMDb. Damn, that's a good score.
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  I have 3 movies from 1978 and since this was a terror from
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  outer space, I also found terrors from the land, from the
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  scene, from the air. Hey, is 1 on Halloween?
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  No, really. OK, that's a really good theme.
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  Thank you, I was actually really proud of myself for it.
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  The first one from the land, that's Dawn of the Dead.
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  OK. It had its Italian release on
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  September 1st, 1978. That was before it wasn't
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  actually released in America until 1979.
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  Interesting, but I had to make it the theme work.
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  Why did they get it first over there?
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  Is it because? Because they love zombie movies
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  in Italy. That's true.
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  Also Goblin did the soundtrack. A budget of 100 or 650,000.
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  Worldwide Gross 159,000 IMDb 7.8 out of 10.
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  Damn, another good one. I want to watch that one too.
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  Yeah, it's completely different from the remake, from what I
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  hear. It's got Ken Foray, love that
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  one second by the sea piranha. Piranha.
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  Piranha that released August 3rd, 1978.
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  Budget of 600,000 worldwide gross.
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  How many billions? I feel like I did not do any
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  extra search. I went with what was written on
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  IMDb because it made me laugh. Worldwide gross 321 dollars.
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  Three. 121 dollars. I feel like this missing
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  something but I like to imagine cuz it's around Roger Corman.
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  I can imagine it only made $321. That's why there's so many
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  remains, like I'm making money off this property somehow.
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  Like I'm making another one throwing all kinds of boobs and
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  nudity. Like we're we're making a
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  profit, goddamn it. IMDb 5.9 out of 10.
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  OK. And third movie by air, The
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  Swarm, The Swarm. Do you know who stars in that?
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  No, I don't. Michael Caine.
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  Marco Kind. There you go.
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  You know he would have fit in in this movie with this cast.
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  Yeah, I could see it. Released July 14th, 1978.
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  I could see him like in Leonard Nimoy's.
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  Role. He's Leonard Nimoy's doctor,
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  psychologist. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  A budget of 21 million. I don't have a gross on it but
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  it has an IMDb of 4.5 out of Denton.
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  OK, this is one that had multiple tag lines and I just
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  didn't feel like writing them down.
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  OK. So let me pull up my handy dandy
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  notes, the one on the poster. Watch out, they get you while
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  you're sleeping. That is scary.
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  Second, get some sleep up to sleep, Sleep, sleep and be born
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  again into a world without fear and hate it.
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  Sounds like something from Like a Vampire.
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  Yeah, honestly, like I'm doing Dracula daily right now, and if
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  I read a part with Dracula and he said that I would be like,
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  yeah, then attracts. Yeah, that guy's pretty
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  theatrical on December 20th. Try to stay awake.
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  Why I can't believe all the tagline stuff's about sleeping I
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  got. What about the aliens here?
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  Here you go, pray for the human race.
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  OK, OK. And you'll never close your eyes
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  again. Yeah.
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  OK, this one I feel like was taken from the advertisement
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  script. OK.
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  Cuz there's two of them and you'll see why.
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  I mean from deep space dot dot dot advanced one sheet.
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  Advanced one sheet. Advanced one sheet and then the
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  next one sheet. The next one the seed is
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  planted. Teru grows advanced one sheet.
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  That's how it ends. Advance one sheet.
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  Can I be retarded? Can I talk?
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  Advance one sheet. Advance 2 sheets.
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  Advance 2 sheets. That's for the sequel.
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  OK, so that's a fun fact. Yeah.
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  All right. So Kauffman loved the 1956 film.
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  And he said it's basically it's akin to great radio.
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  That's how he describes it. He had not read the novel, but
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  when he agreed to direct this movie, he decided he was gonna
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  go ahead and read the novel. And he didn't want to do an
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  actual remake. He kind of wanted to envision a
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  variation on the theme. And one of the big differences,
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  obviously, is that they were using color, but they also moved
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  the location to San Francisco because that's the city he
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  loves. And he wanted to see it, you
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  know, see what would happen. Terrorized.
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  Yeah, I love it. So I want to see it go to hell.
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  And the ending was also different.
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  OK. They wanted to do a film noir
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  feel but in color, so they cut. They borrowed some of the tips
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  and tricks like especially like the shadow work, things like
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  that. Interesting.
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  And there were, like, color changes whenever characters
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  turned into pod people. Really.
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  Yeah. Which I didn't really notice.
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  I didn't notice that. Either, but it makes me wanna
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  like go back and kind of rewatch some things.
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  What kind of changes? I just like tinges to the color,
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  is what it said. Ben Burt, who did the sound
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  design for Star Wars, did the sound design for this.
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  Hey, cool. Yeah, He really focused on
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  taking, like, those kind of ambient typical city sounds, you
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  know, like garbage trucks, you know, and finding a way to make
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  them feel terrifying when you realize that the garbage trucks
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  are taking away the dead bodies of people who have been cloned.
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  Yeah. And the other thing he designed
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  was the shriek, which is actually a combination of
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  sounds. It wasn't people doing what I
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  did and breaking the microphones at the beginning of the episode.
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  Yeah, it's a combination of different sounds, and one of the
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  sounds included is a pig squealing.
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  I can hear that. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
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  Yeah, they created the special effects.
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  They were all practical and they were done live on camera for the
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  movie. I was always wondering how they
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  did the thing with like the the plant or whatever, the pod just
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  like opening up like a flower. It was pretty impressive.
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  Yeah, and do you want to know how they did the the hairy pooch
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  Todd person? Because remember they got cloned
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  together 'cause they were sleeping together.
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  Yeah, and then we see the dog come out later with.
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  Harry's head, yeah. That was a mask they made for
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  the dog. And that was that.
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  Yeah, and it had a hole in its mouth so it could like, lick.
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  Good dog, man. Yeah, so I'm really impressed
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  with that dog. Like she looks so happy running
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  out with like her little human mask on.
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  You know, in light of the movie Good Boy coming out, they're
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  fighting right now to get dogs in there for winning awards.
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  To the Academy. I'm all for it.
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  And you know, I think they should because as part of the PR
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  for this, they took Indy to the Walk of Fame and he saw Rin Tin
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  Tin and Lassie's stars. If they could have stars on the
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  Walk of Fame, they should be able to be nominated for awards.
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  I. Mean like, yeah, I agree.
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  So the ending was very, very much secret.
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  No, like literally nobody besides the director knew what
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  then that twist ending was going to be.
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  He didn't tell Donald Sutherland until right before they shot it,
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  he said. I don't even think that.
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  Nancy Cartwright, Not Nancy Veronica Cartwright.
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  Nancy Cartwright, the fucking voice actor from Simpsons.
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  I I was thinking the same thing whenever I heard the name.
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  My I knew I was going to fuck up at some point.
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  I didn't expect it to be this early.
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  Veron. He said that he didn't even
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  think Veronica Cartwright. It doesn't help that her
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  character's name is Nancy. Oh my God, you're right.
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  Yeah. Veronica Cartwright didn't even
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  know about the twist until it happened.
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  And even crazier, the execs didn't know until they were
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  doing the screening of the final product at George Lucas's house.
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  Seriously. Yeah.
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  Why were they screening at George Lucas's I?
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  Don't know. I do think it's really funny how
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  many Star Wars connections there are to this.
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  When Leonard Nimoy from *. Trek.
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  Yeah. Let's get the guy from Star
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  Trek. I mean, like they got it
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  confused. Like, yeah, so you're who are
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  you on So? I like to imagine that he went
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  into the sound designer all the time.
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  So he said. How is it working with Leonard
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  again? He's like what the fuck are you
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  talking about? Yeah, it's like, tell me about
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  that scene where Spock and Luke, they save the day.
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  And Speaking of Leonard Nimoy, that this character was meant to
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  kind of break him of his typecasting that he had, you
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  know, after playing Spock for so long that I don't know, because
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  there were several times in this movie that I was like, man, he's
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  barely acting human. I was like, but you know, you
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  know how Vulcans. Are isn't like his whole thing,
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  like he's like a know it all. He's kind of a know it all in
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  this movie too, isn't he? He's.
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  Very logical and reasonable. He is half human, half Vulcan,
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  yeah. Whatever, you know, I was
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  realizing though, like we're, this is one of those movies that
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  had some of these classic actors that I think we may be one of
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  the last generations to really like.
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  Know. Yeah.
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  The cast. Yeah, 'cause like you show
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  somebody today, later, Nimoy, they're not going to know who
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  the fuck that is probably. Or I, you know, people.
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  Gen. Z maybe same.
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  Same with like a babyface Jeff Goldblum.
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  Yeah, Jeff Goldblum. That was a shock to even see him
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  in this movie. I feel like he must have a
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  writer in his contract that he has to get gooey in all his
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  movies. Yeah, just get gooey.
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  Goldblum. That's that's his full name.
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  Yeah. Donald Sutherland had to have
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  his curls set every day. His curls set?
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  Yeah. He had like little pink curlers
• 20:24
  in his hair to set the curls. He's not naturally curl.
• 20:27
  Or at least not naturally a pretty curl.
• 20:29
  I mean, think about how much work I have to do to get my
• 20:31
  waves to sit the right way. This is probably the youngest
• 20:33
  I've ever seen him. Yeah, he still kind of looks
• 20:35
  old. They did several cameos from the
• 20:38
  original, the 1956, which we haven't seen that either, but I
• 20:42
  just thought that these were kind of interesting to include.
• 20:45
  So Dan Siegel, who is the director, he played a cab driver
• 20:49
  at one point. And Kevin McCarthy, McCarthy,
• 20:53
  who played Doctor Miles Bannon Bennell in the 1956, he's the
• 20:58
  one at the end who's shouting they're coming.
• 21:01
  And he said the director, Kaufman, said that although this
• 21:06
  wasn't meant to be the same character from the 1956
• 21:09
  original, it was meant to kind of like, metaphorically be
• 21:13
  Doctor Miles Bunnell running through the country shouting,
• 21:15
  they're coming, trying to warn everybody.
• 21:18
  Interesting. Yep.
• 21:19
  So those are all of my fun facts.
• 21:21
  Cool. Which means we can go ahead and
• 21:24
  start a token. All right.
• 21:27
  Well, good, bad, ugly and absurd.
• 21:30
  Yep, as we do. So good.
• 21:34
  I, I thought this was like an interesting take on like the
• 21:37
  sci-fi thing 'cause like it's less the sci-fi in this of it
• 21:40
  and it's more of like the paranoia of it all.
• 21:43
  You know, you have like these people being duplicated and it
• 21:47
  really, there was like a point in the movie where I'm like
• 21:50
  guessing, is this person real? You know, and I feel like
• 21:53
  whenever that happens, you've kind of got, it's effective what
• 21:57
  you're trying to do. It's effective.
• 21:58
  That and plus we learn somewhere in the second act that if you
• 22:04
  act like you're one of them, you can kind of get by undetectable.
• 22:07
  So it adds to that feeling of paranoia and really helps that
• 22:10
  twist ending. Yeah, it does.
• 22:12
  That ending is awesome, too. It's iconic.
• 22:15
  We knew it going into it, but it definitely didn't hurt anything
• 22:18
  here. Yeah, like I was still the whole
• 22:20
  time in my heart or something. I was like, oh man, what's going
• 22:23
  to happen? The I like the chemistry between
• 22:27
  Donald Sutherland and Miss Cartwright here.
• 22:31
  Yeah, that's who played her, right?
• 22:34
  Nancy. No.
• 22:34
  Nancy's car, right? Fuck who?
• 22:37
  Brooke Adams. Played Elizabeth yeah, yeah,
• 22:40
  Elizabeth and him they. Felt like genuine friends.
• 22:43
  And you could also see that like, yeah, the affair was bound
• 22:46
  to happen, yeah, if it hadn't already started.
• 22:49
  But it seemed like they never fully crossed that line until
• 22:51
  the world was ending. Yeah, yeah, the the effects were
• 22:56
  amazing with this too. I was not expecting them to be
• 22:59
  as good as they were, especially for that time.
• 23:02
  I don't really, I mean, I you can definitely do some good
• 23:05
  effects in the 70s. I just I didn't expect to see
• 23:09
  the full pod like kind of give birth to one of the body double
• 23:14
  s and it was upsetting looking like it was just like goopy and
• 23:19
  covered in what looked like webbing some kind.
• 23:21
  We would never find out what the process of duplication looked
• 23:25
  like and I was like shit, we just actually are.
• 23:27
  And that also kind of got to me too, when we first saw the body
• 23:31
  double for Jeff Goldblum, because I didn't realize it was
• 23:34
  him at first because the the features weren't all there.
• 23:37
  Yeah. And I assumed like, oh, this is
• 23:39
  a client that got body. I assumed their bodies were
• 23:41
  actually being snatched. Like full on snatched, not
• 23:44
  duplicated as far as the. Original murdered.
• 23:46
  Yeah. Yeah, I thought it was the guy
• 23:48
  in the mud that like kind of was acting weird.
• 23:52
  Yeah, that was apparently a pain in the ass, customer.
• 23:55
  Was that part and also the part where Elizabeth her like my skin
• 24:01
  just like shrivels up? That was so fucking weird.
• 24:05
  Oh I I wanna see how they did that.
• 24:07
  This is one that I would love to get like a fancy blue rig of and
• 24:12
  white Sheldon behind the scenes details.
• 24:14
  Yeah, I also liked how, like, this is like around the time
• 24:18
  where cameras were getting crazy, people were like, all
• 24:20
  right, we can move around with cameras and let's go fucking
• 24:22
  wow, 1970. 8 Same year Halloween.
• 24:25
  Yeah, he was so excited to use that.
• 24:28
  The Pantaglas, yeah. Yeah, that's why that was in my
• 24:31
  mind when I was like, same year. They're probably also playing
• 24:35
  with this new technology. Yeah.
• 24:37
  But those scenes of Donald Sutherland kind of frantically
• 24:41
  going around the street and he's like trying to call people in
• 24:43
  the phone booth and stuff like that, and there's just like all
• 24:45
  these shots of the people around him, and then it's just like, it
• 24:48
  gets interesting. Oh, my God, yeah.
• 24:49
  That whole scene, like, you can hear that was such an
• 24:51
  interesting way to do a montage of, like, making all of these
• 24:54
  calls and getting more and more frantic.
• 24:55
  And you can you feel that same paranoia of more and more like,
• 24:59
  wow, how many of these are already POD?
• 25:00
  People. Yeah, exactly.
• 25:01
  I don't know this. This movie did a lot of things
• 25:03
  like that really well. I think all of those elements
• 25:05
  coming together really made it work.
• 25:08
  It all clicked Yeah alright, what about you?
• 25:11
  The whole cast just absolutely fantastic.
• 25:14
  Like, they are all super magnetic.
• 25:16
  And obviously I'm a fan of Jeff Goldblum and the Sutherlands,
• 25:21
  always have been. But it was just they were so
• 25:25
  fantastic to watch. It was really interesting having
• 25:28
  this framed from like a health department perspective.
• 25:30
  Yeah. And I feel like honestly, maybe
• 25:33
  seeing this post COVID gave me a new appreciation for how much
• 25:37
  the health department really does.
• 25:38
  They're not just looking for rat turds and soup, which that being
• 25:42
  one of his first lines. Yeah.
• 25:45
  It's it's kind of like what I was saying about Kurt Russell,
• 25:48
  actually. Like Donald Sutherland can make
• 25:49
  anything sound just super swabbing cool.
• 25:52
  You know, it was really funny you say that, though, because,
• 25:54
  like, I was thinking about this and he's like a Leonard Nimoy's
• 25:59
  character is talking about like, yeah, there's must be some kind
• 26:01
  of like, outbreak going on where everybody's having the same
• 26:04
  delusion. Kind of like a psychological
• 26:05
  flu. And Donald Sutherland's, like,
• 26:08
  you want the health department to get involved?
• 26:09
  Like what the, what's the food people going to do about this?
• 26:12
  I'm like, Oh yeah, they're not just food.
• 26:13
  Yeah. Like this is honestly a really
• 26:15
  good reminder. And having lived through COVID,
• 26:18
  yeah, we are very much more aware of it.
• 26:21
  So I thought that was kind of an interesting character choice to
• 26:23
  have. And apparently that was in the
• 26:25
  early version of the script. She was like and a vocational
• 26:28
  jazz musician is what they called him.
• 26:30
  Yeah, I don't know if that would have worked as well.
• 26:32
  Yeah, so I I really like that they did that with his
• 26:35
  character. And honestly, this is one of
• 26:37
  those movies that is almost two hours long, but it never feels
• 26:40
  like it's that long. Yeah, it it doesn't really
• 26:43
  meander too much. It's the opposite of our QB
• 26:46
  movie where like every time we pause, we're like, Jesus Christ,
• 26:48
  how much is left? And then like, by the time this
• 26:50
  was over, I was like, wow, two hours have already passed.
• 26:52
  Yeah, yeah, it goes by good pacing.
• 26:55
  Yeah, and it just, it really does.
• 26:56
  It keeps the tension there. You jump right into things too,
• 27:00
  which I always love. Oh yeah, I love that too.
• 27:02
  It just I had such a good time with this movie.
• 27:06
  All right, what's your back? I really don't have a lot of bad
• 27:11
  things to say about this movie. Well, you think you're about to
• 27:16
  say something. Well, I'll wait till my entry.
• 27:18
  No, go ahead. I might be able to jump in with
• 27:20
  you. OK.
• 27:21
  My bad thing mainly was because we do end up getting so many
• 27:24
  other things revealed. I wish we saw what happened with
• 27:27
  the bodies after they were doubled beyond the the
• 27:31
  traveling. Yeah, like, because they turned
• 27:33
  into like, black fungus looking things that are thrown into the
• 27:38
  garbage trucks, which we know because we've seen them over and
• 27:40
  over and over again. And like we see Elizabeth's body
• 27:44
  shrivela but it doesn't turn into like black fuzzy fungus
• 27:47
  mold spores. Yeah, it is a little bit weird.
• 27:51
  And I mean, maybe we just missed that part of it, but.
• 27:55
  I don't know. But that's really my And that's
• 27:58
  such a tiny nitpick because we do see like the fun part of her
• 28:01
  body disposal. Yeah.
• 28:04
  Gross to say it that way, but you know what I mean?
• 28:05
  Like from a horror movie perspective.
• 28:07
  Yeah, man, I don't know, I, I'd have to think on this a little
• 28:15
  bit harder. I just, I couldn't really think
• 28:17
  of anything in the moment while I was watching it because it's
• 28:19
  like a new movie. I was taking it in and it
• 28:27
  doesn't feel like a lot happens in the second-half of the movie.
• 28:30
  It's just a bunch of like him running around and like, oh,
• 28:33
  that's an alien, That's an alien, you know?
• 28:35
  And then like the ship comes in, it's like, oh, that's an alien.
• 28:37
  Like, I don't know. It could have been nice to see
• 28:40
  like everything escalate to a point, like, well, I'm
• 28:46
  completely out of options now. Which I guess he kind of did
• 28:49
  have that happen whenever the boat.
• 28:50
  It went from like, there's a few people here and there too.
• 28:53
  It's everybody. Yeah, it's a very quick
• 28:57
  escalation, which I guess like makes sense because they are
• 29:01
  exponentially reproducing people.
• 29:03
  I, I think it would have been even better though, to, to like,
• 29:07
  play a little bit more on to like the paranoia stuff because
• 29:09
  like it reveals that what's his name?
• 29:14
  Kibner. Kibner is an alien.
• 29:17
  Probably a little bit too soon for my liking.
• 29:20
  I think it would have been cool to have that reveal like way
• 29:22
  later into like. I do appreciate that instead of
• 29:26
  him just joining the long line of horror movie, terrible,
• 29:28
  terrible, terrible psychologist. Yeah.
• 29:31
  Because he, like, is like, it's all in your head.
• 29:36
  You're making this up. Just go home.
• 29:38
  Go home with this person who treats you badly.
• 29:39
  It's fine. You'll be fine.
• 29:41
  I I think it could have been cool to play a little bit more
• 29:44
  on like inner group paranoia, like maybe people.
• 29:47
  Like a thing moment. Yeah, we're like, how do I know
• 29:50
  you're you? You know what I mean?
• 29:53
  Because we do see that some of them can put that kind of an
• 29:56
  error on like obviously Doctor Kipner.
• 29:58
  Yeah, and Jeffrey, too, whenever the cops come by and like
• 30:01
  they're all kind of putting on that show and when they're all
• 30:03
  like checking out the room when Elizabeth got kidnapped in
• 30:07
  quotations. Yeah.
• 30:10
  But yeah, like they can, they're emotionless when they're around
• 30:13
  each other, but like when they're they can put it on that
• 30:15
  front. Yeah.
• 30:15
  It would have been kind of cool to see a little bit more of that
• 30:18
  done here. That's.
• 30:19
  Fair. Ugly.
• 30:21
  Rat turds and fucking soup. Yeah, pretty fucking disturbing,
• 30:26
  but also just like just the whole process of being turned
• 30:32
  into a double was really upsetting.
• 30:34
  I I just hate the idea of like falling asleep and then just
• 30:38
  because you fell asleep you are being like encrusted in this
• 30:41
  like goopy webby stuff and. And it's weird because they say
• 30:45
  that they have all of your human memories, but you're an advanced
• 30:49
  race. And that's confusing because
• 30:50
  then it turns into an existential thing, like what is
• 30:53
  the human? What is the soul?
• 30:54
  Like? What makes a person a person?
• 30:55
  Also what are they doing? Like what's a guy?
• 30:58
  They are traveling to other planets.
• 31:03
  Basically these monsters destroy every planet they go to and then
• 31:08
  they have to move on to the next one, much like the human race
• 31:10
  will do some ditchers. Yeah, we're getting there's a
• 31:13
  message in there somewhere. Yeah.
• 31:15
  But like at the same time, like we never really got an
• 31:18
  understand, like they're just kind of like moving pods around,
• 31:20
  but they like, are they like harvesting?
• 31:23
  They're trying to turn everybody into their.
• 31:26
  But what for what purpose? Because they move on to another
• 31:29
  planet and do the same shit, like and repeat.
• 31:33
  Like we never really saw like a goal and we just saw them
• 31:35
  carrying around pods. Yeah, like, like at least like
• 31:38
  have them like, you know, scavenge shit or something or
• 31:41
  like, feed off of the people. This kind of turned into more of
• 31:45
  like a bad thing, but like, yeah, I don't know.
• 31:48
  OK, whatever. What's your ugly?
• 31:50
  Well, POD person or no, the way that Doctor Kibner is like
• 31:55
  advising people coming to him for help.
• 31:59
  Yeah, but you got, you got to also understand like, how are
• 32:01
  you going to like realistically respond to something like that
• 32:05
  person's a double. That's not that's not that
• 32:08
  person. That's a that's a completely
• 32:09
  different person. You guys, you're just telling
• 32:12
  them like, it's OK, it's a delusion.
• 32:13
  Like I understand you feel that this is the case, but like let's
• 32:18
  actually look at this from a logical.
• 32:19
  Standpoint, no. He does it worse, though.
• 32:21
  Like he's very gaslighty about it.
• 32:23
  Like he's not. Yeah.
• 32:25
  I can't remember how I. I forgot exactly how it was
• 32:27
  worded, but it was bad. It was not.
• 32:29
  It was not in any way that was like supportive of the people
• 32:32
  that were coming to him with concerns.
• 32:33
  OK, well, I just like I always think about like in movies like
• 32:37
  this, you always have like you're with the protagonist.
• 32:40
  You're like, no, you fucking idiot, it's actually a fucking
• 32:42
  body double. But when you actually like look
• 32:45
  at it in universe like, well, how would you actually believe
• 32:49
  something like that if somebody came up and told you?
• 32:51
  That I feel like I would be more compassionate to a person going
• 32:53
  through that, which I feel like is something that a therapist
• 32:56
  should be doing. OK, even if it's a delusion, you
• 32:59
  can acknowledge that something's a delusion, but still, I
• 33:02
  understand that whether it's real or whether it's a delusion,
• 33:05
  this is a thought that is very obviously affecting this
• 33:07
  person's mental health, and telling them to just get over it
• 33:10
  is not helpful. OK.
• 33:15
  Absurd. The opening of the movie, for
• 33:20
  whatever reason, we just see this priest on the swing set
• 33:23
  with a bunch of children and I, we don't get any explanation.
• 33:28
  We don't ever see this guy again.
• 33:29
  And it just kind of like immediately threw me off, like
• 33:31
  what the fuck is happening? Here I feel like maybe that was
• 33:34
  another cameo, but I didn't write it down.
• 33:36
  That's a weird way to do a cameo.
• 33:40
  I also liked Elizabeth's eye thing.
• 33:45
  I thought that that was going to come up to do like is like the
• 33:47
  tests are like, all right, show me that it's actually you and
• 33:50
  like do the eye thing and she does the eye thing, you know?
• 33:52
  No, he really just included that to kind of show like normal
• 33:55
  human interactions to kind of contrast them later, OK.
• 34:00
  Yeah, that makes sense. That's what it.
• 34:02
  Was it was not. It was not a director's trick
• 34:05
  called foreshadowing. OK, Yeah, my absurd is that bath
• 34:14
  house, the mud bath that's they've got like, like the
• 34:20
  tablecloths from Dollar Tree, like that's what's separating
• 34:23
  everybody, to get naked into mud baths and then onto massage
• 34:28
  everybody. Everybody.
• 34:29
  'S just kind of halfway one around and muddy nudity.
• 34:32
  I don't want to live in that world.
• 34:34
  I don't either me up. And like, apparently Nancy
• 34:39
  always has to get this, this man into the shower.
• 34:42
  He's always like losing his footing in the mud tub.
• 34:46
  Please tell me you got like some plastic daisies on the bottom of
• 34:49
  those tubs or something for safety.
• 34:51
  Probably not. And then also, is that mud just
• 34:53
  being reused again and again because the tubs are still full
• 34:56
  of the mud at the end of the day?
• 34:57
  Yeah, it's kind of nasty. And how?
• 35:00
  How on earth are the Belichick's friends with Matthew Benall?
• 35:06
  Health department guy, super health guy, and he's not being
• 35:10
  like, hey, yeah, we got to discuss this.
• 35:13
  Maybe there's just like a they're friends who's like, I'm
• 35:16
  going to let this one slide. He knows that Jeff Goldblum,
• 35:20
  he's a little sensitive boy. He just on the street as poetry
• 35:23
  and he's. Very.
• 35:23
  Is that what there was? Was it poetry that he was
• 35:26
  writing? He.
• 35:26
  Writes poetry and he hates Kipner.
• 35:29
  Those are his main characteristics.
• 35:31
  Kipner, that's how I knew he was a pod person.
• 35:36
  Later he was like, you've never agreed with him in your life.
• 35:38
  Yeah, it really that was the tell right there.
• 35:40
  I like that. OK.
• 35:43
  You wanna rate it? Yeah, let's read.
• 35:44
  It all right, I like this movie a lot.
• 35:46
  I can see why it's a classic for a lot of people.
• 35:48
  I've given a nine. Yeah, I I'm gonna give it an
• 35:51
  8.5. OK.
• 35:52
  I think it's, it's really good. I had a much better time with it
• 35:55
  than I knew it was like, it's been long standing as a classic,
• 35:59
  but it was nice to actually feel it's one of those.
• 36:02
  Feel it. One of those movies where you're
• 36:03
  like, yeah, sure. I know people like, I'm sure
• 36:05
  it's good, but you never, like, watch it and then you watch it.
• 36:08
  OK, now I get it. Yeah, I get why people really
• 36:10
  like this movie. So a starting average of 8.75.
• 36:13
  Cool. All right.
• 36:14
  Well then, let's talk about it. My first note is that we're on
• 36:18
  the opening credits and already wow this cast.
• 36:20
  Yeah, I know. Because the only person we knew
• 36:23
  that was in this movie was Donald Sutherland.
• 36:26
  Because we just like, we knew the ending of it, so we didn't
• 36:29
  realize that we had Leonard Nimoy.
• 36:31
  And Jeff Goldblum, like when I saw that, he was like what the
• 36:33
  fuck? Like I didn't even know he was
• 36:35
  acting back in the 70s. We see rain and we see some
• 36:39
  gooey flora. I listen.
• 36:42
  If you are a budget to your patron and you actually read our
• 36:46
  notes when we upload them, count how many times I write Gooey.
• 36:49
  I I did goop and also actually it starts with body snatchers
• 36:53
  gooping about in space and then they goop about on plants.
• 36:56
  OK, OK. Yeah.
• 36:57
  And then the kids are being told to pick the flowers.
• 37:01
  I wonder if the kids are like from a Catholic school or
• 37:03
  something or something like that and that's why they were being
• 37:06
  preached to on the. No, don't buy it.
• 37:11
  Elizabeth picks one of these flowers and she takes a home and
• 37:13
  she shows Jeffrey. She says it's a Grex.
• 37:15
  It's a hybrid type of plant. She can't find it in her book.
• 37:20
  Jeffrey doesn't care. He just wants to watch the
• 37:23
  Golden State Warriors. They've made it to the playoffs.
• 37:25
  Watching the big game. Yeah, watching the big game with
• 37:27
  his big old headphones on so that way she can read.
• 37:31
  We've got Matthew Banal. He is health inspector and he
• 37:34
  goes to a restaurant and he is arguing with the the chefs and
• 37:38
  the owner about if it's a caper or a rat turd.
• 37:43
  And he says if it's a caper, eat it.
• 37:45
  And that's a good way to get him right there.
• 37:47
  Although if that man cared about his restaurant he would have
• 37:50
  eaten shit right there. Yeah.
• 37:52
  He's like fuck it, give me the rat turd.
• 37:54
  It's a caper. When he goes back out to his
• 37:56
  car, he finds that some of the other chefs had thrown a bottle
• 37:59
  of wine. Busted his windshield.
• 38:01
  I like how his windshields just fucked up.
• 38:03
  Yeah, he just not address it. Yeah, they're out there just
• 38:06
  smoking and just watching them drive off.
• 38:08
  And he calls Elizabeth and he's like, they busted my wind
• 38:11
  shield. And she was like, oh, you?
• 38:13
  And he goes, hey, will you come in at 7:30?
• 38:15
  She goes, no, I'm not coming in at 8.
• 38:16
  I'm coming in at 8. He goes, please come in at 7:30.
• 38:19
  I'm going to nominate you for civil servant of the year.
• 38:21
  He's like, please just test for salmonella.
• 38:22
  I'm getting these guys. It sounds like he has had an
• 38:25
  ongoing beef with this restaurant.
• 38:26
  And I would absolutely watch the prequel.
• 38:28
  Yeah, I want to know what the fuck went down there.
• 38:31
  So she she agrees. She agrees that she'll come in.
• 38:35
  But that night, because she had taken the flower and she put in
• 38:38
  a glass of water, she's like, look at how it's already
• 38:40
  rooting. And she put it on Jeffrey's side
• 38:42
  of the bed. And we see like just a couple of
• 38:45
  random cuts of it just getting bigger and bigger.
• 38:47
  And it's one of those like unsettling.
• 38:48
  And it's not super highlighted, but you see it and you're like.
• 38:51
  Yeah, I wouldn't be comfortable with that.
• 38:54
  She wakes up in the morning and. Jeffrey is just at the side of
• 38:58
  the bed. He's dressed up in a suit and
• 38:59
  he's cleaning up glass from the floor.
• 39:01
  Yeah. And which this should be a sign
• 39:04
  because there's no water with a glass spill.
• 39:06
  Just rice. Maybe he I looked it up like the
• 39:10
  people like the beer kids and the Jack O movie and me Also I I
• 39:17
  just have a weird question. OK, He's a dentist.
• 39:21
  He is going into work in the fucking full suit and tie and
• 39:26
  everything. Dentists don't really get that
• 39:28
  dressed up for. Yeah, they usually wear scrubs.
• 39:31
  Yeah, I just thought it was very strange.
• 39:33
  That would be the first tale. Like somebody snatched his body.
• 39:37
  And so Elizabeth ends up running late because she's trying to
• 39:40
  talk to him and she's like, I don't know what's going on.
• 39:43
  And she ends up being late and she tells Matthew why.
• 39:47
  And he was like, listen, I've got rat turds to deal with.
• 39:51
  So we'll talk about this later, or I'll get you in touch with my
• 39:54
  friend, Doctor Kipner. That night, Jeffrey is still
• 39:59
  acting weird. And he says he has a meeting and
• 40:01
  he gave his Warriors playoff tickets to a patient.
• 40:03
  And she's like, I don't believe that for one second because it's
• 40:06
  the playoffs and it's your Warriors.
• 40:09
  And he goes outside and he just randomly meets people by a
• 40:14
  fence. And she goes to Matthew's house
• 40:18
  and she's like, hey, I don't know what's going on, but
• 40:21
  Jeffrey's not Jeffrey. And they eat some food together.
• 40:25
  Yeah, they have dinner. Makes her eyes do a thing.
• 40:28
  Does the eye thing, yeah. I like it when actors can do
• 40:30
  stuff like that because I know that was the thing with Bill
• 40:33
  Skarsgard. He can do that.
• 40:34
  With his eyes. And it also, I don't know if you
• 40:38
  noticed in companion, but Sophie Thatcher can cry from just one
• 40:41
  eye and so the director loved that to make her.
• 40:44
  How the fuck can you control which eye it's here comes out
• 40:47
  of? How can you control any of these
• 40:49
  things these people we've just named can do with their eyes?
• 40:52
  I can believe the other ones more than the tier thing.
• 40:54
  That's kind of weird. Well, again, he offers to let
• 40:58
  her speak with his psychiatrist friend just to, you know, like
• 41:01
  not calling you crazy, but you know, he might be able to help
• 41:04
  you process everything like. We'll, we'll see.
• 41:06
  We'll see him at the book party tomorrow, which is in fact a
• 41:08
  book party. I did not believe it.
• 41:10
  We. Were not prepared for how much
• 41:12
  of A book party that book party was.
• 41:13
  Yeah. So the next day, Matthew takes
• 41:18
  his clothes to a dry cleaner and the woman and you get the sense
• 41:22
  that he he's regular there and the woman isn't in the mood for
• 41:27
  his joking around. And the guy also working at the
• 41:31
  dry cleaner goes my wife. That's not her.
• 41:33
  Like, something's wrong. She's not acting like herself.
• 41:36
  And it's like. And as he's walking to work, he
• 41:38
  says hi to a street musician named Harry in his pooch.
• 41:42
  He says, hi, Harry. Hi, Pooch.
• 41:44
  Yeah, he's also, like, noticing a bunch of, like, random people
• 41:46
  kind of recognizing each other and they're passing things
• 41:48
  along. To each other.
• 41:50
  Things are seeming weird. Yeah.
• 41:52
  So he gets to work, and Elizabeth's upset.
• 41:54
  She said she tried to see Jeffrey in his office and he
• 41:56
  wasn't there, and he's always there.
• 41:58
  That nerdy little suit wearer is always in his office.
• 42:01
  So you know what she did? She followed him because that's
• 42:04
  what a woman does when she starts to get kind of paranoid
• 42:06
  that maybe her husband's cheating on her or maybe he's a
• 42:08
  pod person. So she follows him and just
• 42:11
  keeps seeing him meet up with people like he knows them.
• 42:14
  And she says, but they're all strangers to me.
• 42:16
  If they were people that he knew previously, I should at least
• 42:18
  know some of them, right? And they're just passing things
• 42:20
  off. And everybody just seems a
• 42:22
  little bit off. And by this point, they're in
• 42:24
  Matthew's car. And a man jumps on the car and
• 42:27
  yells they're cunning. And he is chased and killed.
• 42:29
  And this is the guy from the 1956 version.
• 42:33
  And as they're passing by the scene, they're, like, horrified.
• 42:38
  So they get to the book party, and Matthew books it to a phone
• 42:41
  because he wants to call in as a witness.
• 42:43
  He wants to report what happened.
• 42:45
  Like during this entire thing, Jeff Goldblum's characters just
• 42:48
  like complaining about Kibner the entire time.
• 42:51
  He is like all of the negative reviews on IMDb.
• 42:55
  Yeah, he is. Yeah.
• 42:56
  He's like the fucking director from Jack O.
• 42:58
  Yes, it's like I was under a fucking budget.
• 43:02
  So Elizabeth overhears a woman crying to Doctor Kibner about
• 43:06
  her husband, saying that he didn't seem like himself.
• 43:09
  And she was like, no, hey, wait. I get, I get what she's saying.
• 43:13
  I get what she's saying. But Kibner instead is making
• 43:15
  this woman hold hands with her husband and say we're OK, right?
• 43:18
  We're OK, It's all good. You're going to go home and just
• 43:20
  pretend everything's OK. Just get a good night's sleep.
• 43:23
  That's a staple of a good book party right there.
• 43:27
  Also, did you notice that that's the one of the guys that Jeffrey
• 43:30
  interacted with before? No, I didn't miss that.
• 43:34
  Elizabeth recognized him like that was one of the guys that
• 43:36
  was passing off things between him and other people.
• 43:41
  So she's upset. She tries to follow the woman.
• 43:44
  Her name's Catherine. He she follows her outside and
• 43:46
  she says, hey, I work at the health department.
• 43:48
  Call me. I know what you're going
• 43:50
  through. Matthew has taken Kibner outside
• 43:53
  to talk with Elizabeth, and he says couples these day just give
• 43:59
  up too easily. They don't want to work through
• 44:02
  their problems. And I hear that from people all
• 44:05
  the time today. There are very real reasons to.
• 44:09
  There's a reason why no fault divorce was put into law.
• 44:15
  Also, he's talking about like he's had several people come to
• 44:19
  him say that their spouses, not themselves.
• 44:23
  He thinks it's some kind of like contagious mental disorder or
• 44:27
  whatever that's going on throughout the town.
• 44:29
  He's like, it'll probably pass, but you know, it's still kind of
• 44:32
  strange that there's several people doing this.
• 44:35
  He's like everything will be OK in about 48 hours.
• 44:37
  Yeah, he's like, let me continue to see her though, if possible,
• 44:40
  because I want to be able to at least try and help her.
• 44:43
  So we cut to Belichick Baths. Jack is crying and Nancy tells
• 44:47
  Stan to calm the fuck down. He's upset about his bath.
• 44:51
  He's always, he's always slipping around and they're big
• 44:53
  guy muddy tub can't stand up. It's it's a lot going on for
• 44:56
  him. And she after he's showered off,
• 44:59
  she's massaging and he's like, please turn down the music.
• 45:01
  And she goes, no, they're good for plants.
• 45:03
  I love plants. And at first I'm like, oh shit,
• 45:06
  Nancy's a pod person. No, she just loves.
• 45:09
  Plants. Yeah.
• 45:09
  I thought she was more like the people from The Happening.
• 45:11
  Like, you know, like this is my plants.
• 45:13
  I feed them with hot dogs. Yeah.
• 45:14
  Because they're cool shapes. Yeah, and they're packed with
• 45:17
  protein. Yeah, Elizabeth has a big plant
• 45:22
  inside waiting for her, supposedly from Jeffrey.
• 45:25
  She thanks Matthew for helping her get home and helping her
• 45:29
  calm down. And he calls out to Jeffrey
• 45:31
  because he wants to see if, like Jeffrey's going to be dangerous
• 45:34
  or whatever to her. And Jeffrey doesn't come out.
• 45:37
  He's least chopping them. He's suspicious.
• 45:40
  These pot of people know that they're on to him.
• 45:42
  So Nancy, he's cleaning up the end of the day, finds a good
• 45:48
  man, and Jack calls Matthew because he's like Matthew.
• 45:53
  We'll know what to do. Yeah, also, one of her patrons
• 45:56
  there also gifted her a flower. It was one of the.
• 46:00
  Same flowers I think was his name.
• 46:02
  Yeah. So when Matthew's there, they
• 46:04
  check the the body there and they describe it as the body,
• 46:08
  like a fetus is how they describe.
• 46:10
  It yeah, like it looks adult sized, but it seems more like a
• 46:12
  newborn. So they call Elizabeth, but she,
• 46:15
  she's gooey. She she answers the phone, but
• 46:18
  she can't really talk. She's starting to get kind of
• 46:20
  gooey. So he goes to go check on her
• 46:22
  and tells the Belichicks to call Kipner for help.
• 46:27
  The thing on the table ends up opening its eyes, and Nancy
• 46:30
  freaks out and goes gets Jack, who comes over and looks at her
• 46:32
  and his nose bleeds, just like Jax was bleeding earlier.
• 46:36
  And then Kidner's there and he was again.
• 46:38
  Like you guys say it's an adult, then you say it's an infant.
• 46:42
  You say its eyes open and its nose bled.
• 46:44
  But it's not a lot Like you guys need to figure out what you're
• 46:47
  talking about. So Matthew sneaks into
• 46:49
  Elizabeth's house. He has to break a window like
• 46:53
  unboard. A door like this is a it's an
• 46:55
  actual BNE. Yeah, Jeffrey's actually seeming
• 46:57
  normal, too. He's in there watching TV with
• 46:59
  his headphones on. Yeah, so you know.
• 47:01
  Like, I wonder if the pod person was like, you know what?
• 47:03
  I really respect his memories for his appreciation of sports.
• 47:06
  Like damn, the Warriors. So like, for real, they're in
• 47:08
  the playoffs. Shit, it's a big deal.
• 47:11
  So he, Matthew. He gets inside and finds a gooey
• 47:16
  version of Elizabeth surrounded by plants.
• 47:19
  Big, huge plant room. It almost looks peaceful, except
• 47:23
  for the fact that you know that it's not.
• 47:25
  So he grabs Elizabeth and carries her out before Jeffrey
• 47:28
  can take her body, because he's getting ready to go, like
• 47:31
  dispose of the husk of her and take her out to the trash.
• 47:35
  When he sees that she's missing, he does the shriek.
• 47:37
  Yeah, back at Nancy's in Jack's, Kibner says that the body's
• 47:42
  gone. And they find a window open that
• 47:45
  hadn't been open before. Matthew comes back, and he calls
• 47:48
  the police. And he's like, listen, you gotta
• 47:50
  go. You gotta go to the Driscoll
• 47:52
  house. And he tells Nancy to take
• 47:55
  Elizabeth to Nancy to take Elizabeth to her to his house.
• 48:01
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 48:01
  OK. Sorry.
• 48:02
  I thought I messed up in my hands.
• 48:03
  Yeah. And Matthew's and Kibner and the
• 48:07
  is Jack there? I don't know if Jack goes with
• 48:09
  them, but they they go to to Elizabeth's house, yeah, to meet
• 48:12
  the cops and go over everything. And Jeffrey's like, yeah, he
• 48:17
  broke in and kidnapped my wife. And Kim Nur ends up talking over
• 48:20
  everyone. He's like listen, listen.
• 48:22
  Fail us. Fail.
• 48:23
  If they think that everybody, that people aren't human and are
• 48:27
  being duplicated, I will help. I will help my friend Matthew
• 48:33
  and Elizabeth calm down. I'll get them back to a good
• 48:36
  place. And Jeffrey goes, should I
• 48:37
  expect Elizabeth back? And Matthew goes, no, I'll
• 48:40
  actually be needing a change of clothes for her.
• 48:42
  All right, so the cops are OK with this resolution.
• 48:45
  And Matthew asked Doctor Kinner to please help him.
• 48:48
  He knows that the mayor is one of his patients.
• 48:50
  So he's like, please just let me get a meeting with the mayor.
• 48:52
  I'm going to see if we can get this thing contained.
• 48:54
  And he was like, sure, I'll help.
• 48:55
  And then he goes out to his car. And in his car is Jeffrey and
• 48:58
  Catherine's husband, one of the people that he'd been meeting
• 49:00
  earlier. Like you said.
• 49:02
  Elizabeth realizes that the flowers are new and that they
• 49:05
  are parasitic. And meanwhile, we've got this
• 49:07
  montage, like we talked about at the beginning of the episode of
• 49:10
  Matthew calling around, trying to get meetings, trying to get
• 49:14
  this thing under control, and just basically being told like,
• 49:17
  hey, keep this under control, keep this under wraps because we
• 49:21
  don't want people to find out and panic.
• 49:24
  Yeah, like he, he set up a meeting with the mayor, I think,
• 49:27
  and we don't see what happened, but yeah, apparently he met with
• 49:30
  him. He was supposed to meet with the
• 49:31
  assistant deputy mayor at Union Square.
• 49:34
  And then we see him go to the cleaner and he's there and the
• 49:38
  dude's OK with his wife now. He's like, yeah, she's fine, I'm
• 49:41
  fine, we're all good. Let's see, Catherine also seems
• 49:45
  off when she comes to talk to Elizabeth.
• 49:47
  She's like, hey, I just want to let you know everything's OK.
• 49:50
  And Elizabeth tries to talk to her boss about testing the
• 49:52
  flower. She's like, this is really
• 49:53
  important. He goes, you have been doing bad
• 49:56
  work lately. You've been consistently late or
• 49:58
  missing. I don't want you adding this to
• 49:59
  your workload. I will test it.
• 50:03
  Is he just an anal retentive boss or is he a pot person?
• 50:06
  Exactly. Yeah, makes you wonder.
• 50:08
  It makes you wonder, especially because we haven't seen much of
• 50:10
  this guy, so we're just kind of having to try and go off of,
• 50:12
  like, what's going on? Yeah.
• 50:14
  Jack can't get any stations on the radio that night.
• 50:17
  They're all holed up at Matthew's house, and Elizabeth
• 50:22
  is in the bed. She got some meds from Kidner to
• 50:25
  try and help her sleep. Everybody's just kind of like
• 50:28
  they're huddled up together. Matthew goes outside.
• 50:30
  He's sitting on his roof. It seems like it's probably
• 50:32
  normally a really peaceful place for him and he starts to fall
• 50:36
  asleep and he wakes up with a fuzzy hand and four goo babies
• 50:41
  around him. Yeah, Nancy saw all that out
• 50:44
  there, and so she woke him up and yeah, he's got a duplicate
• 50:49
  of himself. There's a duplicate of Elizabeth
• 50:51
  and one other person can't remember who it is.
• 50:54
  So they try and call the cops, but the cops are all part of it,
• 50:58
  which we realized because Matthew never says his name.
• 51:00
  And they said, calm down, Mr. Bunnell.
• 51:02
  Yeah, and they start barricading off the street, so.
• 51:06
  They realize that they need to run out.
• 51:08
  Yeah, they all. Everybody runs except for
• 51:11
  Matthew, who stays behind and crushes his duplicate's head.
• 51:15
  Oh, I, I think it's meant to indicate that like, all four of
• 51:18
  the duplicates get crushed, but he has a moment where he's just
• 51:22
  like, staring at himself and it's got to be weird to crush in
• 51:25
  your own head. Yeah, I don't know if I would
• 51:27
  like that. They hear shrieking from the
• 51:29
  crowd outside and they are running and they're trying to
• 51:33
  get somewhere safe but they end up cornered in an alley.
• 51:35
  So Jack is like Matthew take the lady somewhere safe and he goes
• 51:40
  running to try and distract the horde, but Nancy follows him.
• 51:43
  Matthew and Elizabeth try and walk and they are followed by a
• 51:47
  growing group and it's a really cool shot of like just their
• 51:49
  feet and. Then we see like this, I feel
• 51:52
  like I've seen this parodied on like The Simpsons or something
• 51:55
  before. Like they're just like trying to
• 51:57
  blend in and like there's pace slowly picks up.
• 51:59
  I think it's kind of one of those things too, that they were
• 52:02
  borrowing that kind of imagery from like, more films.
• 52:05
  Oh, probably, yeah. But yeah, that's really cool.
• 52:07
  Yeah. And you like, see more and more
• 52:08
  feet and like the pace just keeps picking up and then just
• 52:11
  like turns into them being chased through the streets.
• 52:13
  They end up climbing into a cap who calls in a type H.
• 52:17
  Yeah, I got the top page. Yeah, same page.
• 52:19
  So they get stopped at a roadblock and they run out
• 52:23
  before anybody can get to them. Who are they?
• 52:25
  They said that they were meeting somebody at the airport.
• 52:29
  I can't remember. Were they actually supposed to
• 52:31
  be meeting somebody there? I think they were just kind of
• 52:33
  trying to give false answers that way they aren't followed.
• 52:37
  OK. That that's my interpretation of
• 52:40
  it, unless I missed something. They find Harry and his poo just
• 52:43
  sleep on the sidewalk next to a pod so we know something bad is
• 52:47
  going to happen. They hide in their office from a
• 52:51
  pod cop and in this moment, they smooch.
• 52:57
  They do a little smoochy moochy. A little moment, yeah.
• 52:59
  They look outside and they see groups of people just carrying
• 53:02
  pods and they are like being directed different places, like
• 53:07
  those of you with family in San Antonio.
• 53:09
  Yeah, I, I, I just, I I don't understand what they're doing.
• 53:13
  They're just carrying pods around.
• 53:14
  Yeah, they're being given pods and they're taking buses to
• 53:17
  places where they've got like, family and friends, like
• 53:19
  plausible places for them to go and see people and some way they
• 53:22
  can give them the pods and the pods spread.
• 53:24
  OK. It's a pod deplatation system
• 53:27
  deployment system, not deployation.
• 53:29
  Jesus. Deployation.
• 53:30
  So the phone rings and Elizabeth is like, OK, they know that
• 53:33
  we're here. They find one of their coworkers
• 53:36
  bottles of pills and they're like, these will keep us awake.
• 53:39
  He's like, how much is a dose? And she says 1 pill.
• 53:41
  He goes take three, take 5, take 5.
• 53:44
  That's a lot. Unfortunately, this is when some
• 53:48
  cops come in led by Kibner and Jack and Jack is agreeing with
• 53:52
  Kibner and he was like, oh bullshit, you've never agreed
• 53:55
  with them in your in your life. And he's like, listen, right now
• 53:59
  we're free from troubles and you can be free from troubles too.
• 54:01
  And so they shoot them with sedatives and they explain,
• 54:06
  Doctor Kibner specifically explains that they go from
• 54:08
  planet to planet and they utilize the planet's resources,
• 54:13
  but eventually they have to move on, which to me sounds like they
• 54:16
  deplete all of the resources. They are in fact parasitic.
• 54:20
  I wish we would have seen some of it.
• 54:22
  Yeah. Yeah, so they fight their way
• 54:25
  out. They do.
• 54:26
  They shrug them off and they lock them in the freezer.
• 54:30
  As you do. Yep.
• 54:32
  And they try to sneak out, but as they're sneaking out, they
• 54:34
  run into Nancy, who says that she lost Jack.
• 54:37
  And they're just like, that's a shame.
• 54:41
  I don't think they think she can handle, in this moment, learning
• 54:44
  that he's been changed. Yeah, but she's like, you can
• 54:46
  blend in with them. You can still be out there.
• 54:48
  I've been out there about all you have to do is you have to
• 54:50
  hide your emotions when you're around them.
• 54:53
  So they're outside and they're blending in basically, until we
• 54:57
  see the dog with Harry's head and they lose their minds.
• 55:00
  Because of course she would. It's kind of funny that we get a
• 55:03
  moment like this with Jeff Goldblum in the movie because it
• 55:06
  reminded me of the Fly, you know?
• 55:08
  Like it's just like, Oh my God, it.
• 55:11
  It's a good moment. I love it.
• 55:13
  Yeah. They scream and then they get
• 55:14
  chased again, kind of. Makes me wish we had seen more.
• 55:17
  Of those I know, like, you know, like that kind of fuck up
• 55:20
  probably happened more than once.
• 55:21
  What what other cross pollination monsters have
• 55:24
  created, have been created? So they run away and they get
• 55:28
  they sneak away in the back of a truck and end up at kind of a
• 55:31
  greenhouse, which is where they are making all of the pods.
• 55:35
  They try and run to hide Outback.
• 55:37
  Elizabeth rolls her ankles and Matthew carries her and they
• 55:39
  both end up falling down a hill. And they're like, well, this is
• 55:42
  this is great. And they hear bagpipes, which
• 55:45
  apparently means that. Boats, ships, that's what
• 55:50
  happens. Like they hear bagpipes and then
• 55:51
  he's like ships, ships. He's just so excited about it.
• 55:54
  Did did that happen? Is that what boats do?
• 55:58
  I have never witnessed a boat bag piping.
• 56:00
  I am familiar with them Tooting. Yeah, they toot.
• 56:03
  Toot. Yeah.
• 56:04
  You got a toot. Got a toot.
• 56:06
  I have no clue. I don't know.
• 56:09
  But he's like, listen, stay right here.
• 56:11
  We could probably sneak away on these ships so you also get a
• 56:13
  closer look and realizes that it's a shipping ship.
• 56:18
  Yeah. Cargo ship and they're they're
• 56:19
  loading with all kinds of pods. And so he's like, well, shit,
• 56:22
  it's. Like a defeated like run back.
• 56:25
  Just like Elizabeth pack it up. We gotta get out of here.
• 56:28
  And then he sees that she has fallen asleep and these pods are
• 56:31
  working faster. I guess, like the stronger their
• 56:34
  community gets, the faster they work.
• 56:35
  Maybe that seems to be the case. Maybe because we've got, I
• 56:42
  called her Pod Beth in my notes and Eliza Pod was right there.
• 56:45
  And Eliza Pod, I missed that. Yeah.
• 56:49
  But she pops up and she was like, listen, it's painless.
• 56:52
  We're good. I'm Naked.
• 56:55
  Don't. Tell me you haven't thought
• 56:56
  about this. That's not in time.
• 56:59
  And Matthew runs into the greenhouse and he's like, you
• 57:01
  know what? We're just gonna do some shit.
• 57:03
  And there's lots of shrieking going on.
• 57:05
  And he grabs an axe and he's chased.
• 57:07
  And he starts like, cutting down lights, which apparently causes
• 57:09
  fires to happen. He's just destroying the thing.
• 57:12
  And like, you know what? He's been up a good fight.
• 57:14
  He's been up a good fight. The mob is chasing him.
• 57:18
  And I mean, we say the pod people aren't emotional, but
• 57:21
  they're pretty angry right now. They don't like you when you
• 57:24
  fuck. With your pods, it's just like
• 57:26
  toxic men nowadays, like women are too emotional.
• 57:28
  Men aren't emotional because anger's not an emotion.
• 57:32
  It's not. So he hides.
• 57:35
  Then we cut to the next morning, you know, we see him walking
• 57:38
  down the street. He watches kids being taken in
• 57:41
  to school for nap time. And they're like, we just got to
• 57:43
  school, Why do we have to nap? And the teacher's like, just
• 57:45
  shut up. I like these scenes of him, like
• 57:48
  he's almost kind of like retaining a little bit of
• 57:50
  himself because he's kind of like wandering around and
• 57:51
  observing everything. I wonder how much of this was
• 57:54
  taped before that very last shot.
• 57:57
  Oh yeah, probably. It seems like he's just like
• 57:59
  he's trying to. From our perspective, it seems
• 58:02
  like he's trying to do that blend in moment and he goes to
• 58:05
  work. And I like how these pod people
• 58:07
  still go to work. Are they actually?
• 58:10
  Yeah, they are. It is weird, yeah.
• 58:12
  Everybody's just kind of working.
• 58:13
  So yeah, You think that it's still him because he's in his
• 58:16
  office. He's cutting the newspaper
• 58:17
  articles like he did in the opening and.
• 58:21
  He ends up going outside. There's a big group that's
• 58:24
  moving and he joins the group and some of them got on
• 58:26
  elevator, so go outside. He goes outside and as he's
• 58:29
  walking on the sidewalk, Nancy sees him and she calls out.
• 58:32
  She's like, Oh my God, I was so worried about you guys.
• 58:34
  Where's Elizabeth? I still haven't found Jack.
• 58:36
  And then it cuts to Matthew's face, and then he lifts up his
• 58:41
  finger and does the shriek, and we just end on that cut to
• 58:44
  absolute silence on the credits. Yeah.
• 58:47
  And it's. Oh I get goosebumps with that
• 58:49
  ending. It's an effective.
• 58:51
  Ending it's so good. Well, man, we zipped right
• 58:54
  through that one, didn't we? It's that always happened.
• 58:57
  Took. Control of that one right there.
• 58:58
  You drove us through that entire story right there.
• 59:01
  If I don't drive myself through, I will get lost and I will
• 59:03
  meander. And that's not for a fun
• 59:05
  podcast, unless it's fun meandering.
• 59:08
  There's plenty of opportunity to fund meander always.
• 59:12
  Anyway, what's your rating? After I'm keeping it at 9.
• 59:15
  This is solid movie. I will agree, I will bump it.
• 59:18
  Up. Hey, bumping it.
• 59:19
  OK. What Tal you think of it?
• 59:23
  Sleepy the whole time. Talia's allergic to all plants.
• 59:27
  I do think she would love the concept of becoming a pop person
• 59:32
  hybrid of the three of us. You think she would actually
• 59:34
  like the idea of that? Only if her head was on one of
• 59:38
  our bodies. That way we could keep
• 59:39
  scratching her. She wants hands to be able to
• 59:41
  scratch. Yeah, OK.
• 59:43
  She's like, think about how much cuter you guys would be with her
• 59:45
  face. She's on her own.
• 59:48
  So I think Taya will get, she'll give this 10 out of 1010.
• 59:51
  I think she like she liked Misty's work.
• 59:53
  She also liked the scream. Yeah, I think, yeah.
• 59:56
  So she's done that many times herself, but she's displeased.
• 1:00:00
  I think this is a tricky one. Zoe's ultimate warrior.
• 1:00:03
  That is tough. I'd say Like the the people that
• 1:00:09
  were mad at him that smashed up the window because he was
• 1:00:14
  shutting down a restaurant because he's shutting down a
• 1:00:17
  source of food. I'm gonna say Nancy, Nancy,
• 1:00:21
  because think about whenever we take her to the vet and she just
• 1:00:25
  goes to a place deep within her. And just like, yeah, yeah.
• 1:00:29
  That's just like. No emotion, just blending.
• 1:00:31
  Scout tried to murder us. Zoe went catatonic.
• 1:00:35
  Yeah, you're right. OK.
• 1:00:36
  Yeah, that, that's very fitting, Nancy.
• 1:00:40
  OK. Who did you relate to?
• 1:00:44
  I relate to any one of the random pod people because I
• 1:00:47
  can't keep myself awake for shit.
• 1:00:49
  If literally if my life depended on it, I couldn't keep awake.
• 1:00:52
  I would be heard so quickly. Yeah, you're, you're doomed in
• 1:00:55
  this. Yeah, there's, there's no
• 1:00:57
  helping me. I'll relate to to Jeffrey
• 1:01:00
  because like, even if I were a pod person, I would probably
• 1:01:03
  TuneIn for my team's playoff game, OK.
• 1:01:06
  Yeah, yeah, you actually probably would.
• 1:01:08
  Yeah. OK.
• 1:01:11
  Dream sequel. Dream sequel.
• 1:01:14
  Well, I well, one of the things I was curious about is like did
• 1:01:19
  this get exposed to other places?
• 1:01:21
  Did the ship that come in was are like were they already when
• 1:01:24
  or did they get infected when they arrived?
• 1:01:27
  I don't know if they really if that was answered or not and I
• 1:01:29
  missed it but like how is this affecting other areas?
• 1:01:33
  OK, I think would be interesting.
• 1:01:34
  Yeah. I can see that like watch them
• 1:01:36
  kind of move from place to place.
• 1:01:38
  Yeah. And like, I don't know, like
• 1:01:40
  see, like you have like I like to see a, a faction of like
• 1:01:45
  humans that are still there kind of like together and like, all
• 1:01:49
  right, well, this is like we know how they operate.
• 1:01:51
  We know what they're working towards.
• 1:01:54
  We're strategizing to try and thwart the the aliens.
• 1:01:59
  Sounds good. It's basically Independence Day.
• 1:02:01
  We got Jeff Goldblum again, this one with Will Smith though.
• 1:02:06
  OK. And we already agreed on a
• 1:02:07
  timeline, yes. What was it?
• 1:02:14
  Something about another page? Oh God.
• 1:02:16
  Advance. Advance 2 pages.
• 1:02:18
  Advance 2 pages yeah. OK, WWDD.
• 1:02:24
  What we don't do? There you go.
• 1:02:26
  Yeah, especially Vin Diesel right now.
• 1:02:28
  Got some shit going on. Bullshit, acknowledged Don
• 1:02:31
  Toretto. Yes.
• 1:02:33
  And I don't know the shit he was.
• 1:02:34
  Going to trial for assault. What?
• 1:02:38
  Yeah, oh fuck yeah. I just.
• 1:02:40
  Learned about that as part of the problems that's happening
• 1:02:42
  with Fast 11. That movie is fucking cursed at
• 1:02:45
  this point. OK.
• 1:02:47
  What would Don do? He he would get everybody like
• 1:02:53
  much like Matthew who get everybody together, like in a
• 1:02:56
  single place to look out for each other.
• 1:02:58
  But I think he would start getting really suspicious of
• 1:03:01
  probably like Statham and Duanye at first because they're like
• 1:03:07
  newer to the family anyway. Yeah, I think like and.
• 1:03:09
  Also the other bald guys. Yeah, like the tell for him
• 1:03:13
  would be like him getting along with one of them and be like
• 1:03:17
  you've 2 have never gotten along.
• 1:03:19
  Once, yeah, Statham and Dwayne actually getting along, not in
• 1:03:22
  like the way they did in Hobbs and Shobb, but like actually
• 1:03:26
  growing out. You're like.
• 1:03:28
  So what's wrong here? Yeah, also he is like stone
• 1:03:30
  faced all the time. So he would blend in.
• 1:03:32
  Just finds like, I don't see the problem.
• 1:03:34
  Yeah, everybody's actually like being really respectful now.
• 1:03:38
  Like maybe his first encounter is somebody like during a drag
• 1:03:42
  race. Like not emotional at.
• 1:03:44
  All I just imagine him also like he's driving down the road is.
• 1:03:47
  This his first ever race because the pod person is like so
• 1:03:50
  unemotional and calculating that they just like zip right to the
• 1:03:54
  finish line. Oh man, he's defeated.
• 1:03:56
  Yeah, yeah. And so at first he's trying to
• 1:03:58
  figure out what's going on, and then they figure out about the
• 1:04:00
  pod people and they all hide out at the house and they just click
• 1:04:03
  out. Also, like I went like a moment
• 1:04:06
  of him when he's driving down the street and you know that
• 1:04:08
  part where they're like find the friends and families, you know,
• 1:04:10
  go to them. He's like he like nods and
• 1:04:12
  respects. Like yes, finally the people are
• 1:04:15
  actually, they understand values, family values these
• 1:04:18
  days. OK, time for reviews, right?
• 1:04:23
  I Yeah. OK, I got two since this is new
• 1:04:26
  to both of us. Oh.
• 1:04:27
  Hold on, don't you want to do listener reviews first?
• 1:04:29
  No, we always do. Oh yeah, you're right.
• 1:04:32
  Internet reviews OK, this one's a 8 1/2 out of 10.
• 1:04:37
  I'll do the +1 first and the -1 next.
• 1:04:40
  Director Philip Kaufman employs gritty camera work that further
• 1:04:43
  manipulates viewers emotions. Low angle shots, trimulus zooms,
• 1:04:46
  lingering wide shots, these techniques all contribute to the
• 1:04:48
  unfolding chaos, the unbeatable alien menace, and ramping up the
• 1:04:52
  dread that becomes overwhelming halfway through when survival is
• 1:04:54
  paramount but improbable. It's not your typical, it's not
• 1:04:58
  your typical alien invasion, but the stealthy attack is all the
• 1:05:00
  creepier for it as these plant life forms take over family and
• 1:05:03
  friends with biological instinct.
• 1:05:06
  Seeing people as emotionless automatons is a fresh, crawling
• 1:05:09
  aspect prospect, and the screams they elicit when discovering and
• 1:05:13
  chasing a survivor owes a lot to the eerie sound design which
• 1:05:15
  consistently complements each chilling image.
• 1:05:18
  Overall, Invasion of the Body Snatchers succeeds on very
• 1:05:21
  simple ingredients. It digs under the skin, coils
• 1:05:23
  tighter and tighter as proceedings play out, and relies
• 1:05:26
  on paranoia to generate its terror without needing violence
• 1:05:29
  and gore. Combined with strong direction,
• 1:05:31
  impressive practical effects for the time, and nerve wracking
• 1:05:34
  sound design, this is true horror in its simplest form.
• 1:05:36
  A terrific blend of sci-fi and horror, planting its roots deep
• 1:05:40
  for an unsettling experience. Modern genre effort should try
• 1:05:43
  emulating. Yeah, I agree with a lot of
• 1:05:45
  that. They did like the core things.
• 1:05:48
  Well, like I mean the sound design really did add a lot to
• 1:05:51
  it. Like I said before, I was also a
• 1:05:53
  fan of the crazy camera work that they had going on here.
• 1:05:56
  They had some really slick shots and the sound design was very,
• 1:05:58
  very important in this, and I think overall it was just like a
• 1:06:04
  lot of little touches that seem simple but make such a big
• 1:06:07
  difference. Yeah, it's all the things that
• 1:06:08
  build up. OK, this is a decently new
• 1:06:13
  review. It was in 2023.
• 1:06:14
  OK, this is a one out of 10. Ugly to look at and difficult to
• 1:06:18
  follow. Choppy scenes, bad sound, cheap
• 1:06:21
  sets, confusing locations. Let's film at night with
• 1:06:23
  whatever St. lights happen to be working.
• 1:06:24
  Don't get me started on the dialogue, but above all the
• 1:06:27
  incoherent storyline. Something happens, then
• 1:06:30
  something else happens, then something else happens.
• 1:06:32
  Who are all these characters? Were these pod people showing up
• 1:06:35
  in the 1st 15 minutes of the film or just extra staring in
• 1:06:38
  the general direction of the camera?
• 1:06:40
  Why does working at public health McDonald Sutherland an
• 1:06:42
  expert in everything? Why is Jeff Goldblum so angry
• 1:06:45
  that people don't appreciate his poetry?
• 1:06:47
  Why does a random banjo player keep popping up on the street?
• 1:06:50
  Was that a thing back then? Why is Robert Duvall being a
• 1:06:53
  priest on a swing set? Shouldn't he be home celebrating
• 1:06:56
  mass? Not one pod person disrobes
• 1:06:59
  during the entire film. So why does Brooke Adams whip
• 1:07:01
  off her clothes when she finally becomes one?
• 1:07:04
  Very 70s? A couple things I don't know.
• 1:07:07
  Container ships. A couple of things I didn't
• 1:07:09
  know. Container ships blast bagpipe
• 1:07:11
  music when they're loading up at the docks.
• 1:07:13
  Warehouses can be set ablaze by taking a fire axe to party
• 1:07:16
  lights. Most of the actors look like
• 1:07:18
  they haven't figured out their motivations, which seems to
• 1:07:20
  change by the minute. Or how to interact with each
• 1:07:22
  other naturally. Was this everybody's first film?
• 1:07:24
  Seeing a very young Jeff Goldblum was a treat, though.
• 1:07:27
  And Leonard, I mean what? Leonard Nimoy seemed to be
• 1:07:29
  having fun as the Uber hip psychiatrist.
• 1:07:31
  I might have enjoyed this film where an actual pod person
• 1:07:34
  devoid of critical faculties and slogging through yet one more
• 1:07:37
  day on planet Earth. Well, you know, they brought up
• 1:07:40
  some good points, I'll give them that.
• 1:07:42
  Some things that we even said ourself.
• 1:07:44
  Yeah, yeah. There are a couple of like
• 1:07:46
  logical fallacies that happen in there.
• 1:07:51
  Yeah. And Donald Sutherland is kind of
• 1:07:52
  a new IT all, but he's so damn charming.
• 1:07:56
  Yeah, I don't know. I can understand why some of
• 1:07:58
  that stuff doesn't work. Like it doesn't really go into
• 1:08:02
  much detail about what's happening.
• 1:08:04
  It is a lot of like this and this and this and this type of
• 1:08:07
  thing. This and this.
• 1:08:08
  And this, yeah, which that can be bad.
• 1:08:10
  This but this. Yeah, it can be.
• 1:08:13
  Oh, there's a little bit of that in there, but like a little bit,
• 1:08:15
  Yeah. Just like the for the grand
• 1:08:17
  scheme of everything, it is kind of just whatever.
• 1:08:20
  Yeah, it all. It's kind of like what you said
• 1:08:22
  at the beginning. Everything just gets out of
• 1:08:24
  control. Why Badly.
• 1:08:25
  In the blink of an eye, yeah. We don't get to really
• 1:08:28
  appreciate what's happening on the outside because we are so
• 1:08:31
  micro focused on this group of characters.
• 1:08:33
  Yeah, yeah. OK.
• 1:08:36
  All right. We have listener reviews.
• 1:08:38
  We do we have one we have one on blue sky from the word zombie
• 1:08:43
  who says great movie, very creepy with a great twist
• 1:08:46
  ending. OK, yeah, yeah, the ending is
• 1:08:50
  amazing. I I didn't know that that was a
• 1:08:53
  change from the original. I didn't realize that there was
• 1:08:56
  like such a big twist back in the day.
• 1:09:00
  But yeah, you know, like it definitely made its mark on the
• 1:09:04
  genre cuz even to this day, like 50 years later, yeah, that's
• 1:09:09
  crazy. People go knows about it.
• 1:09:10
  Yeah, people talk about it. People are saying.
• 1:09:13
  People are saying, people are screeching, all right, that's it
• 1:09:18
  then. And I guess that's it for
• 1:09:19
  Invasion of the Body Snatcher. Yeah.
• 1:09:22
  Next week we are going back once more, The Texas Chainsaw
• 1:09:26
  Massacre one last time. One last time.
• 1:09:29
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• 1:09:32
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• 1:09:33
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• 1:09:36
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• 1:09:38
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• 1:09:42
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