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Pete A Turner on Podcasting, Community Growth, and Creativity in Broadcasting · The Scene Projects

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  Well, welcome in to another exciting episode of the scene.
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  I'm your host, Bubba Starts.
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  And with me today is a fellow podcaster, Pete a Turner from the Break It Down Show.
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  Welcome in, Pete.
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  Hey, man.
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  Thanks for hey.
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  The thing I always say because because and and I'm really talking to you right now, Bubba.
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  It's hard to do what we do.
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  You do it way bigger than most people.
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  So anybody who's watching this, pay attention because Bubba knows what he's doing.
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  It's great to be on your show.
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  I know what it means to take the time and the sacrifice to do all this stuff, how
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  frustrating, how heartbreaking.
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  I know.
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  Because I've done all those things.
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  And to be able to do what you do, if nobody else tells you today, brother, thank you for
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  doing what you do.
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  You are trying to make the world a better place, your community a better place.
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  And fact that
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  I get to be part
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  of that, are you kidding me?
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  Hell yeah.
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  I'd love to do that.
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  So anybody watching, also thank you for your time because it's we're all competing for time.
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  And and the fact that you're taking any time with me is something that I appreciate.
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  So all of you out there listening or watching, thank you.
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  Thank you.
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  Thank you for participating with us.
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  I just you know, it's easy to forget all these things, man.
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  I I learned a thing from my buddy Jay.
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  He's a professional comedian, national nationwide act, And and he learned it from
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  Buddy Hackett who kinda was his mentor.
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  And he's like, well, Buddy would say, like, people come.
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  Like, they might choose to come to your show.
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  It might be the only thing they spend their money on that month.
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  They're there with their girl, and they're trying to, like, have a great night.
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  Look at them.
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  Wave at them.
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  Wave at the balcony even if there's not a balcony there because it means you're
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  connecting with the people in a way it's too easy to forget all that stuff.
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  Right?
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  And so I take that attitude here with what we do on these crazy shows and just say to
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  everybody, I hear you and I see you out there.
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  I know I know what it means to take your time to take this time to listen to us.
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  I'm not gonna waste it, and I'm I'm definitely gonna appreciate it.
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  And that is exactly what people are craving in society these days is to just be heard, to be
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  seen, to feel like somebody cares.
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  And, that's a big reason why we started this show, Pete.
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  So so thanks for all of those beautiful words off the top here.
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  But we're not here to talk about me.
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  We're here to talk about you and to get to know you and your show a little bit.
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  So give us a little bit of your backstory.
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  How'd you kind of fall into the podcasting world?
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  And then we'll pick it up talking about your show, the break it down.
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  I just I love it already.
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  Yeah.
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  The break it down show is awesome.
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  I'm so fortunate that this thing even exists.
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  We've gotten past all of the big hurdles.
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  Now the hurdles are just stuff for me to clear out.
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  Right?
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  And and I've become pretty good at clearing hurdles.
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  How did we get started?
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  I don't know.
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  I came back from war, and I was like, I I gotta stop going to war.
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  I need to start telling stories because I got to do so many amazing things.
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  And then I met other people who had done amazing things, and I'm just like, let's why
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  would I ever stop talking to all these incredible people who are motivated, who are
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  creating things, who wanna help the next person create something?
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  And so we just I just keep going, man.
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  I I posted an episode today.
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  You'll appreciate this.
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  It's a thing called Porchfest.
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  I think it's like a nationwide, like, get people to first street kind of movement.
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  And my hometown that I love is putting their second one on, and I'm like, hell yeah.
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  I'll come down and support that.
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  You know, is it free for me to do that?
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  No.
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  It takes time.
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  It I was recovering all Sunday just from the travel because I I drove ten hours inside of
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  '24.
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  You know?
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  And so I was like, man, to go do this.
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  Right?
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  I I got me about ten hours inside of, like, maybe, like, thirty hours.
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  But I was up for twenty hours straight one of the days, and then I got up.
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  And then and and I was exhausted, but I don't care because I want things like Porkfest to
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  succeed.
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  I want the local businesses to succeed.
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  I want people to come out and see my hometown and how great it is and all these musicians
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  that are gonna get time.
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  Man, I love stuff like that.
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  And so the break it down show isn't all that, but I am trying to and I saw your guys' model
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  in your intro video.
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  You know, I I'm just trying to enrich lives as much as I can, and I provide opportunities.
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  I I can't force anybody to do anything.
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  But what I try to do to break it down shows, find things that are interesting, fascinating,
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  neat, build friends, and bring those friends back over and over and over again so that we we
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  all can get to know that like, if you've read the most impactful book of your life and it
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  was, you know, someone that was written last year, I can get that person on my show and talk
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  to them about that book.
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  And then I can bring my friend who's like, I read this most impactful book, and they're
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  waving at my face.
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  I'm like, well, let's get that person on my show.
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  My my friends who know that I have a show have no idea that I can just simply reach out and
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  and almost every single time, get that person on my show and now put them next to that person
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  that they admire so much.
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  I really like that.
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  I really like that.
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  And that's kind of what, we just launched a new show called Love Noise on our network.
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  Mhmm.
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  And that's kinda what it what it is there too.
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  Right?
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  A chance for us to go live on our YouTube and to really start to engage more with our fans.
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  So many of these episodes, know, as you know, being part of the business, I batch episodes.
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  I got 16 interviews this week.
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  Some of this content won't get seen for months and months and months.
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  Right?
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  So by the time that it actually airs sometimes, I've kind of forgotten about doing the
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  interview at all, and it it it creates a little bit of a lag.
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  Right?
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  But I really wanted to do was to start engaging with our fans.
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  I've only been doing this for eighteen months, Pete.
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  So, you know, my first goals, that first hurdle, right, was a 100 episodes.
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  Can we shoot enough content to release a 100 episodes?
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  We got there in, like, nine months, and then it was like, okay.
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  We kinda know what we're doing.
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  I think it's time to take this to video.
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  So started researching YouTube.
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  We really went on to YouTube right about the turn of the year, and now we have over 225,000
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  views on our YouTube page.
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  We have 350 almost subscribers, if not more than that by now.
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  So we're growing this community.
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  And what I need to kinda sit back and tell myself a lot of times is like, look.
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  Some people take ten years even to get this far.
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  Right?
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  That don't know all of these things and have learned all of these, but I invested in it
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  wholly right off the jump.
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  I had already quit my job at the factory.
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  I had, you know, I thought I was going to be a rock star, Pete, to be perfectly honest.
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  Had put Yeah.
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  Last summer.
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  I was out there in the world and just, you know, playing a lot of shows and doing our
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  thing.
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  But as it wore on, it wore on me.
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  Right?
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  The the constantly performing for four hours a night, you know, five, six nights in a row,
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  some of these places where I was like, man
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  Yeah.
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  I don't know that I have it in this music business like this anymore.
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  And it kinda pushed me into doing the podcasting more and kinda putting the music
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  career in the sidecar, if you will.
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  It's still riding along.
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  It still plays shows.
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  I'm still able to share my art, but it's so much more important to share other people's
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  stories and to share their art and to have that there because nobody else is doing this.
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  Not in my community.
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  There's not other people that are, you know, putting 300 other artists on their show in a
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  year.
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  We have over 250 episodes.
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  Most of them are new faces every single time.
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  So you talk about impacting lives and changing the world around you.
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  Brother, we couldn't be more aligned in our mission, and I have to say, thank you for your
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  service as well, not just to our country, but to your communities that you're serving.
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  It's almost even more important, the work that you're doing now, than the service that you
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  gave to our country in wartime.
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  I think we do a lot more solving problems with love than with bullets and guns.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  You you're right.
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  And and one of the responsibilities I have now is to put that effort here.
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  Right?
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  And and I've been tasked with this by a number of very notable people, but, like, yeah, help
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  us.
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  Help us here.
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  Put that effort that you put into solving problems in Iraq and Afghanistan or whatever it
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  is.
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  Put that effort here, and and I do that.
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  By the way, as you were talking, I was listening to you, and I just published a short
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  because you got to exist.
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  You gotta beat that heart on your show.
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  And so I I'm not gonna do this throughout the show, but I'm like, oh, man.
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  I didn't put this out.
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  I can do this real quick while Bub was talking, and I published a short while we were talking.
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  And that is that is what happens here.
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  Right?
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  Like, in our world, I have to produce.
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  If I don't produce, I don't exist.
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  If I don't exist, I can't help anybody.
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  I can't I can't enrich anybody's life, including my own.
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  And so wouldn't normally do this.
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  I would just let it ride, but I knew you would get it, and it would be an important lesson.
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  Like, I went in, and I listened to everything you said about all of the the work that you
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  guys have put into it and and the batching of shows and all that.
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  So I heard everything you said, but I also have the ability because look.
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  We fly an airplane.
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  We're so we're in one man bands.
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  I'm rubbing my belly and patting my head right now.
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  You know?
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  And I got some Chewing bubble gum and chewing bubble gum and playing hopscotch too at
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  the same time.
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  You know what?
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  In our world, we put our pants on two legs at a time.
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  I jump right in.
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  One leg in it.
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  Yeah.
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  Nobody's got time for one leg in it.
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  So that and that's why I I didn't I I bring that up is we know where the work is.
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  Right?
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  And this is one of the big lessons for anybody in the podcast world or or or creative world.
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  Like, you're gonna start a band.
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  Right?
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  You're gonna start a record company.
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  You have to figure out where the work needs to be today, tomorrow.
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  What are the things like, it's it's fun to get a front man, and then we'll be at the Oscars,
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  and I'm gonna wear that shiny jacket.
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  You're too far ahead.
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  What's right now?
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  What do we need to be doing?
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  And right then, I needed a publisher short because I didn't do it at 09:00.
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  Right?
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  And I'm in the West Coast.
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  So that is a big thing.
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  And when you're looking at batching, and this is just me just talking to you podcaster to
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  podcaster, you need to push more shows out per week.
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  You know?
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  You just you need
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  to get
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  that hard
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  trying to build the back catalog, Pete.
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  We were at one point because I had a 100 episodes behind me when I jumped onto YouTube.
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  We were releasing content every single day.
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  I was putting out an episode every day just to try and get that stuff out there.
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  Summers get busy for me.
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  I do a lot of traveling.
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  I was kinda out and about, so I kinda pull back and make sure that we have enough content to
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  get through, but we're gonna blow it out of the water this year.
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  And I have four networks.
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  Right?
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  I have I have different networks.
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  So when I'm batching episodes, it's not all specifically for the scene projects.
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  Sure.
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  Some may be for the Patriot broadcasting project, which is kind of our news and
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  politics.
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  We're dipping into the local and state level scene.
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  I've had state representatives on.
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  We've had hopefuls come on our show.
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  I have one actually later today with another city council hopeful or a Great.
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  Congressional hopeful.
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  Right?
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  Well and then we have the get better together project, which is more a platform to have long
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  form conversations and, shedding our shit, if you will.
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  A shout out to my friend Fire White for, saying that on my, on my friend, Willie
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  Fox.
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  Jump Let in here because do very similar things here.
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  Maybe not as concentrated as you, but I think it's valuable.
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  We always talk about the they.
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  They ought to do this or they should do that.
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  And so when you go and you meet the they, you realize, hey.
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  These are real people, and they're really trying to resolve real problems.
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  And and maybe if you all, instead of wanting somebody to do something, if you got off a
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  couch and you went down and you had lunch with that person, I love to talk to city managers.
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  These are highly credentialed people.
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  They're often lawyers.
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  You know, this is a big deal, at least you're in California, to have a city manager because
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  they're trying to run this organization.
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  And there's there's never enough money.
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  There's never enough people.
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  There's always personality.
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  You know?
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  And these these folks, god bless them, man.
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  They that's not an easy job.
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  And so when you talk to them and you understand the reality that they work within, the stuff
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  that you're thinking that that they ought to do, it is almost insignificant.
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  You know?
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  And if you're not willing to go out and help and contribute and speak up about it, then it
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  it isn't gonna exist.
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  And and maybe it doesn't need to.
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  Maybe they need to fix sidewalks downtown before the they go out and paint this crosswalk
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  or whatever it is.
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  And and so by creating a show like you have and and and like I do and you bring on not just the
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  president of The United States, but also, like, hey.
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  This is the mayor.
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  Hey.
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  This is the city manager.
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  Hey.
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  This is the the emergency manager from your county.
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  Do you know how hard that job is and how much responsibility?
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  And quite often in in a lot of the nation, that's a second job within the government job
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  that they already have.
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  It's like, oh, Andrew, the emergency manager.
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  And so to understand what these guys have on the line and then when an emergency shows up,
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  you know, and and they're like, but I'm also the dog catcher.
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  Well, and I live I live in rural South Dakota, Pete, so everyone wears multiple hats around
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  here.
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  Yeah.
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  And we know intimately, right, our our people on city council and you know, my town's a
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  thousand people.
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  South Dakota as a whole probably has less people in it than the city you live in.
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  Right?
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  We're 800,000 or less in the entire state of South Dakota.
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  Right?
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  So
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  three and a half million people in my county.
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  Three and a half million.
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  It's crazy.
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  There's 800,000 in my state.
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  It's 500 miles long and Right.
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  400 miles tall.
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  And this is part
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  of this point.
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  This is what I figured out is and I figured this out by walking through villages in
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  Afghanistan and talking.
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  I used to be a spy.
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  That's what I did.
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  Right?
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  So I I got to know a lot of people, and I would see what what's the ground truth is.
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  Right?
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  And and when we do that for ourselves and we talk to the guy who's the dog catcher slash the
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  veterinarian slash the emergency manager slash the, you know, whatever, plays piano at the
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  church, you all of sudden you realize that I should just be helping this guy, not
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  criticizing him, you know, or oh my gosh.
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  How do we how do we help you?
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  Or, you know, where's and and people become more human, and we become more graceful, and
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  we, become more understanding that all of these problems, there's not enough to go around.
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  I certainly don't wanna go mow all the lawns and your and, you know, the government lawns
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  around the town.
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  Why would you want to do that?
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  But you do it.
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  Oh my god.
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  Who's cleaning these toilets at the city park?
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  Oh my god.
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  There's someone doing that.
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  You don't even think about these things.
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  Someone's out there when it's cold, and and, yeah, I know it gets cold where you guys are,
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  and they're doing whatever it is to make sure that everybody in town stays safe.
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  We lose sight of how hard that work is and how thankless, and it's not great paying work.
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  You know?
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  It's alright.
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  Right?
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  But but when you get to know these folks and they become your neighbors and you can have
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  coffee with them and they get to talk about something besides just their work, man, you
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  really have made a connection and tied that community together.
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  And and our shows do stuff like that.
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  My personal attitude about all these things.
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  I'm the nicest guy in the world when I go to my grocery store.
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  I'm never in a rush.
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  I know everybody's trying to get me through there.
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  They're trying to get me great products.
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  And when I see my my grocers, you know, I I consider them my friends, and I I get to know
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  them over time.
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  And when they leave, I'm I'm sad that they leave.
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  One of my favorite cashiers works tonight.
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  Guess what?
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  I'm gonna shop tonight at my at my local grocery store because I love that dude.
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  He and I and we have this these little thirty second conversations, but that's what it means
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  to to get off this damn look.
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  We need these things.
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  Right?
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  But get off this damn thing and go out and get to know your grocer and understand who they are
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  and what they do.
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  And, you know, maybe they need help with some.
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  Maybe they don't.
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  Maybe they need just to get out of the house and have a good time.
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  And you're like, well, why don't you come down to this park where they have all these bands
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  all summer long?
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  And you're like, someone does that.
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  I mean, you know how this is.
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  You put together an event, and everybody's like, you put together an event?
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  When?
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  You're like, I've been working my eyes out trying to put this thing together.
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  You know?
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  Just come down.
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  All we want you to do is have a great time.
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  Right?
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  All this stuff goes into what we do and how we live.
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  Yeah.
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  It's amazing.
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  I'm really inspired by a guy, you know, maybe one of the original podcasters even though he
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  doesn't get credit for it.
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  Speaking of originals, I got to meet Adam Curry at podcast movement.
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  And, his whole, you know, his whole spiel was serve a small community.
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  You don't need a million followers.
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  You don't need to be Rogan.
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  You don't need to chase these CPM models.
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  You can go find support in your local community.
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  But, I'm so inspired by a guy like Mike Rowe, right, that has been doing this with his shows
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  dirty jobs and all of these things for years.
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  And I heard a podcast episode with him while I was traveling this summer and just continue to
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  be blown away by the man and what he's doing to bring awareness to not just the trades, but to
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  the tradespeople.
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  Right?
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  And getting to know the the people behind theirs and sharing inspiring stories, and it
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  really drives me to want to do more.
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  Pete, you'd be very proud of us.
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  This week, we started a show with our local high school football team to highlight some of
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  the plays from the weekend before.
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  I got the coach who Yeah.
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  My wife works at the school, so we we work out there in the in the high school gym.
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  And, the high school football coach is there, and we start talking ball, and I just get a
• 16:41
  wild hair, right, where I'm like, hey.
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  Would you like to sit down with me on camera and to talk a few plays through for me?
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  And, you know, I'm kind of a simpleton.
• 16:48
  I'm a football fan, but I don't know what's going on behind the scenes.
• 16:52
  Right?
• 16:52
  So we got to stand in front of the screen and have him do the plays for me, and then I'm able
• 16:57
  to get access to all of those highlight videos and to produce the show to make it look like
• 17:02
  you know?
• 17:02
  It's not perfect like an ESPN show would be, but you could see the potential.
• 17:06
  And that's where I'm kinda throwing it out to the community.
• 17:09
  And I was like, look.
• 17:10
  I need support to do this.
• 17:11
  It took me an entire day to edit all of this.
• 17:13
  Right?
• 17:13
  But if you can support this, I am more than willing to give my time into this and then turn
• 17:18
  it around.
• 17:19
  We can make a scholarship.
• 17:20
  We can make this a cab of the week to accentuate and highlight these young student
• 17:24
  athletes and to turn this into really something amazing.
• 17:28
  So I just I I'm so in love with what I'm doing, Pete, and it's really thrilling for me Right.
• 17:33
  To talk to someone else that's so on fire for this trade that most people still don't really
• 17:39
  understand what it is.
• 17:41
  Right?
• 17:41
  not just
• 17:42
  It's true.
• 17:42
  It's not just us talking to our friends and and, you know, god bless all the people with
• 17:47
  different style of podcast.
• 17:49
  Mine is about serving the communities, and my communities are varied.
• 17:53
  I have my music community.
• 17:55
  I have my, you know, statewide community, which is the, you know, the patriarch run.
• 17:58
  But I also have my community of people who are, you know, addicts or former addicts or have
• 18:03
  been to prison like I have or have you know, people that are coming from a life that's not
• 18:08
  picket fences and the leave it to beaver kind of lifestyle.
• 18:12
  Right?
• 18:12
  Yeah.
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  My life was hard, and I've been through a lot.
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  And the only way we keep other young men and young women from going through that is by
• 18:19
  sharing that now and not waiting until it's too late.
• 18:23
  So I've been having a great time doing this the last year and a half of my life, and I can't
• 18:28
  imagine at this point doing absolutely anything else.
• 18:31
  This is all I think about all the time.
• 18:33
  And it's not about me.
• 18:35
  It's about how I can serve these communities continue Yeah.
• 18:40
  To be a blessing to others.
• 18:42
  It's true, man.
• 18:43
  And and I I have tried a number of times to quit, and I I just can't do it.
• 18:47
  You know, I'll back off.
• 18:48
  That's kinda how I refill my my pond, but I, you know, I put out I put out a show five days
• 18:54
  a week.
• 18:54
  You know?
• 18:54
  Like, that's my pace, and I I can maintain that.
• 18:59
  And then I'm like, I've got to back off because that five will grow into six.
• 19:02
  It'll grow into seven, and I'll just be Right.
• 19:05
  And and my show is my show is so established and and successful.
• 19:11
  And, again, no one's ever heard of my show.
• 19:12
  Here's the thing, everybody.
• 19:13
  Like, if you wanna get to where I'm at ten years, 2,000 plus episodes, it takes a long
• 19:18
  time.
• 19:18
  It takes a lot of work, but there's benefits.
• 19:20
  Along the way, I've met incredible people.
• 19:22
  My life has been changed forever by my podcast.
• 19:24
  The people that I know, the people that I can still meet, the rooms that I get to get into.
• 19:29
  While we were sitting here,
• 19:30
  I I Pete, I'm covering a PGA tour event this week because of this silly podcast I started.
• 19:36
  Right?
• 19:36
  Where it's just like, what is this world that we live in now?
• 19:39
  But when you on Musk said we are the media, I really took it to heart.
• 19:43
  And I was like, oh, you're you're right.
• 19:46
  Yeah.
• 19:47
  When when we were sitting here, I got a text.
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  Hey.
• 19:49
  Get ahold of the Ukrainians.
• 19:51
  I think I've got a market for their drones.
• 19:53
  That happened because of my show while we were talking here.
• 19:56
  Right?
• 19:57
  Like, this is a crazy I live in a crazy world where I'm like, how how in the world are you
• 20:01
  and I talking right now, Bubba?
• 20:03
  And we're talking about podcasting, and I get this potential purchase order.
• 20:06
  Right?
• 20:07
  And I'll get a little taste of that deal.
• 20:08
  Right?
• 20:09
  Hopefully, it happens.
• 20:10
  So and and I'm not I'm not a, like, arms dealer.
• 20:13
  Right?
• 20:13
  But I am I am a spy.
• 20:14
  I do connect people.
• 20:15
  I I understand the value of these things, and people start to appreciate the things that I
• 20:20
  get to do, and they ask me to do other things for them.
• 20:23
  I'm not doing anything illegal here either.
• 20:24
  This as weird as that might sound, this is all legitimate business.
• 20:27
  Right?
• 20:28
  And it comes from the podcast thing.
• 20:29
  So if if you're thinking about making a podcast, look, not everybody gets to do it.
• 20:33
  Not everybody gets to get ten years in.
• 20:34
  Not everybody gets to do what you've done in eighteen months.
• 20:37
  And maybe you're not meant to be a podcaster.
• 20:39
  Maybe you need to go cut hair.
• 20:40
  Maybe you need to be a pipe fitter.
• 20:41
  Maybe something else.
• 20:42
  But but give whatever it is a shot, and it's alright to fail at it and just say, hey.
• 20:47
  That didn't work in that form.
• 20:49
  Right?
• 20:50
  Let me try again, or let me never go back to that again.
• 20:53
  I haven't touched a golf club in twenty plus years.
• 20:55
  It's a true story.
• 20:56
  Right?
• 20:56
  I lived in Vegas.
• 20:57
  I worked for a golf magazine.
• 20:58
  I could play all the golf I wanted.
• 21:00
  I'm on a world class course with some of my friends from out of town.
• 21:03
  In the in the middle of the seventh hole, I said, I'm done playing, fellas.
• 21:07
  And they're like, oh, you're play to the turn?
• 21:09
  And then and then and I'm like, no.
• 21:10
  I'm done right now.
• 21:12
  You all will figure out how to get around on your own cart.
• 21:14
  But the me and this cart and my my daughter was hanging out with us, we're headed back to the
• 21:19
  clubhouse.
• 21:21
  And I never swung a club, never had a I wasn't mad at golf.
• 21:25
  I just had reached my my lifetime limit on what I had to do in golf, and I had never touched it
• 21:30
  again.
• 21:30
  Right?
• 21:30
  So it's fine to quit something and say, hey.
• 21:32
  That's not what I do.
• 21:33
  You wanna persevere, but, also, you don't have to suffer to persevere.
• 21:38
  You can say, hey.
• 21:39
  This podcasting isn't for me.
• 21:41
  I don't see the path.
• 21:42
  I wanna support Bubba.
• 21:44
  And here's a great thing.
• 21:44
  Support Bubba.
• 21:45
  Like, I I've got this thing that scrolls across my thing, and no one ever talks about it.
• 21:49
  I have a PayPal account.
• 21:50
  And if you wanna put money in it, anybody can.
• 21:52
  I'm not pitching anybody right now.
• 21:53
  I'm not gonna gonna give you the link, but that little bit of help goes directly into my
• 21:57
  pocket.
• 21:58
  Right?
• 21:58
  And I take that money, and I might buy gas, or I might buy a new microphone because we need
• 22:03
  microphones all the time.
• 22:04
  All this stuff, it all comes from that community connection that we create.
• 22:08
  And I'm telling you, man, it's this world that we get to do.
• 22:14
  Elon's right.
• 22:15
  We are the new media, and we get to hold other media accountable.
• 22:18
  I I I'm I'm on x all the time, and I see these reporters do their their just because I'm a
• 22:24
  spy.
• 22:24
  I know a lot of people.
• 22:25
  I've learned a lot about information operation cycle psychological warfare.
• 22:30
  Right?
• 22:30
  And so when I see their their headline and then I see the way they write the thing, and I'm
• 22:34
  like, you guys are lying to people.
• 22:36
  You're not being honest.
• 22:37
  You know?
• 22:37
  Like, we see a lot of this with the Israel Hamas war.
• 22:41
  Right?
• 22:41
  And and there is so much misinterpretation, purposeful, that happens.
• 22:46
  There are people that do focus on that stuff.
• 22:48
  You guys have your your show that sounds like it deals with those things.
• 22:51
  This is what the new media looks like, and this is a chance for anybody to be involved in these
• 22:56
  things.
• 22:56
  And by the way, your high school football show, great idea.
• 22:59
  You know, support a local business, support a local team, whatever it is.
• 23:03
  That's a great way to do it.
• 23:04
  And maybe there's someone at the high school that's like, I would love to get involved.
• 23:07
  Now you got a little protege.
• 23:08
  You teach them.
• 23:09
  They're gonna fall out and fail.
• 23:10
  Who cares?
• 23:11
  Pete, that's the best part is that do it.
• 23:14
  The high school's already doing it.
• 23:16
  They're already broadcasting all the games on YouTube.
• 23:18
  And one of the students I realized when we were at the volleyball game last week, they have a
• 23:23
  student who's doing the broadcasting.
• 23:25
  It was her first time on there and everything, and I just went up and was like, look.
• 23:28
  I can't hear the broadcast, but you're doing a great job.
• 23:30
  Right?
• 23:31
  You're doing awesome.
• 23:31
  Like, just keep on going.
• 23:33
  And and now, you know, having talked with the AV teachers and and what they have going on,
• 23:38
  that I'm able to go and, you know, offer my thing.
• 23:41
  Like, do you guys ever talk about podcasts and podcasting?
• 23:44
  And, like, no.
• 23:44
  We don't.
• 23:45
  I would love to at least come in one day and to deliver a talk and then tell people about what
• 23:49
  I do and to show them what I do now working in the school, and we have plans to take it into
• 23:53
  all the different sports.
• 23:55
  I mean, they deserve it.
• 23:56
  These kids deserve it, and there's no there's no reason that just because you live in a small
• 24:01
  town doesn't mean that you're not worthy of being highlighted.
• 24:05
  Right?
• 24:05
  And I just I'd like I said, the the further you get into it, the the harder it is to pull
• 24:11
  yourself out.
• 24:12
  The podcasting world's like quicksand, Pete.
• 24:15
  It is true.
• 24:16
  It will it your mind will always spin, and it will distract you.
• 24:20
  But, yeah, you do like, what that is, like, the next pro level step is how do you focus on
• 24:25
  where the work is and what shows deserve your attention.
• 24:28
  I talk a lot about filling up a plate.
• 24:30
  Like, you know, if your plate is full and you wanna do a podcast, okay.
• 24:34
  What are you gonna do about that?
• 24:35
  Because you can buy some capacity because that's what it sounds like you need to do, or
• 24:39
  you have to get something off your plate.
• 24:41
  And maybe it's something easy, like, I'm just not gonna be on the phone for five hours a day.
• 24:46
  You know?
• 24:46
  I mean and look.
• 24:47
  We all fall into that trap.
• 24:48
  So now you're on the phone for two hours a day.
• 24:51
  You still get to go do all that stuff.
• 24:53
  But for the other three hours, you work on your podcast, and then you start to change your life
• 24:58
  in a positive way.
• 24:59
  Or you go work out for one hour, and then you spend two hours in your podcast.
• 25:03
  Or you take your girl out, and you go for a walk, or you go down and get a a pop down at
• 25:08
  the at that one cafe that you've been meaning to go to, and you support that local business.
• 25:12
  You don't kinda spend a million dollars, but you do gotta get out and go do other things.
• 25:17
  So if your plate is full with a bunch of nonsense and and junk, get that junk off there
• 25:21
  and see what you do at that time.
• 25:23
  And maybe it won't be podcasting.
• 25:24
  Maybe it won't be playing that guitar.
• 25:26
  But maybe you decide to write a song a day just to see what happens with no no goal other than
• 25:31
  can I sit down and write 365 songs in three hundred and sixty five days starting right now?
• 25:37
  I've always wanted to write.
• 25:39
  Okay.
• 25:39
  Great.
• 25:40
  And you do it.
• 25:40
  Right?
• 25:41
  And if you do nothing with those songs, that's alright.
• 25:43
  I you can always say, I spent a year, and every day I wrote a song.
• 25:47
  Every single day I wrote a song.
• 25:49
  You know?
• 25:49
  And even if you just did DCG and repeated those chords all throughout every single song, it
• 25:54
  doesn't matter because you did something, and it's so much more than and there's nothing
• 25:58
  wrong with I scrolled to my phone this morning too.
• 26:01
  Right?
• 26:01
  So I'm not saying that.
• 26:02
  But Right.
• 26:02
  Right.
• 26:03
  Well, I I'm laughing so hard because I I had a friend, Clayton O'Ryan, friend of the show that
• 26:09
  started off on that at the beginning of the year, and he got about midway through April.
• 26:13
  He's like, I got, like, 50 songs now that I need to record.
• 26:17
  And to get them out there, I was like, brother, think of that output is just incredible, man,
• 26:22
  because he was writing some really good material.
• 26:24
  They weren't throwaways.
• 26:26
  And and now I was like, well, holy cow.
• 26:28
  Like, need I need to slow down.
• 26:30
  Right?
• 26:30
  I need to change my my shift my attention a little bit.
• 26:34
  Pete, we Yep.
• 26:35
  We could sit here and talk all day, man, and it's been such a pleasure getting to know you a
• 26:39
  little bit here.
• 26:40
  I know we'll be talking again in the future, but before I let you go, give you a chance to
• 26:44
  tell everybody where they can find you online and where they can check out your show.
• 26:48
  Yeah.
• 26:49
  Super easy.
• 26:49
  Just type in p d a Turner.
• 26:51
  I'm on x a lot at and YouTube.
• 26:53
  You could find me in the other platforms and stuff.
• 26:55
  And if you just wanna ask me a question, pete@breakitdownshow.com.
• 26:58
  Super simple.
• 26:59
  I'll say it again.
• 27:00
  Pete@breakitdownshow.com.
• 27:02
  And and I'm glad to I'm glad to talk to you about whatever it is that you need.
• 27:05
  I don't care about your idea.
• 27:06
  I I care about what you're gonna do.
• 27:08
  And and if you're gonna go get busy and get to work, then that's great.
• 27:11
  And and watch my show.
• 27:12
  If my show is your your cup of tea, awesome.
• 27:14
  I'd love
• 27:14
  to have you.
• 27:15
  We'll have
• 27:15
  a great time.
• 27:15
  You'll love what I do.
• 27:16
  And if I'm not, hey.
• 27:17
  Awesome.
• 27:18
  It's alright.
• 27:18
  There's a ton of people you can go out and support.
• 27:20
  There's there's attention for everybody.
• 27:22
  I hope you all have a great day.
• 27:24
  Thank you all for listening to me rant and rave about the this great life of being podcast
• 27:28
  host.
• 27:28
  But, man, I appreciate you, Bubba.
• 27:30
  Thank you.
• 27:31
  Man, I appreciate you, Pete.
• 27:33
  Thanks for being part of the scene.